The 2023 Rivian R1S is An EV Like No Other SUV | MotorWeek Road Test

While we’re still waiting for that Tesla Cybertruck, and domestic brands have just begun delivering their all-electric pickup trucks, Rivian beat them all to the market with the R1T. And now they’ve turned their attention to the much more important three-row SUV segment with this R1S. So, let’s see if this modern era family truckster can deliver for suburban America.
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[@sig_7760]

I hope Rivian can get their products out the factory door quickly and with high quality. They look really cool.

[@sworks7124]

My R1T was the only vehicle out of 36 I have owned that was near perfect in build quality. Love that truck a real keeper.

[@ettorenamias]

@@sworks7124 So happy to hear that. I hope to order one next year.

[@shoutingatclouds1050]

6 thousands Rivians sold lol😂 absolute junk. Nissan kinda went out of business but is now 50/50 partners with CCP as told in Wikipedia. Nissan is now a official police vehicles for China. Seriously

[@EazyE11]

I hope Rivian can make their vehicles affordable.

[@shoutingatclouds1050]

@@EazyE11 EV vehicles are ment to destroy the middle class. Cadillac is seen as "new money" middle class to the Elites, as we know from Tucker and other automotive manufacturers if you don't do your R&D and develop a totally new internal combustion motor every ten year's you're out of business. So Cadillac has been forced out of business by the Elites, not allowing a new motor to be developed. That's just one example the Elites have decided the middle class is over and more mega rich are needed they say. All working class trucks will be Penski truck rentals you will own nothing and be happy. You will be confined to the radius that the law will allow you to drive in your (Side by Side) and not alowed on the highway without a (multi-pass) embedded in a rental vehicle.

[@PeterWiernicki]

I've loved Motorweek since I was 15. So glad they're on KZbin!

[@PhilippZ]

Me too, I’m 53. And Davies always looks and talks the same.

[@khalifahmuhammad1574]

Me too! I'm not giving my age, though. lol

[@alfamonk]

"Motor week is made possible by..." is right up there with the Fox searchlight film opening..Iconic!

[@KTAC1]

God bless the host. Been doing this for decades, feels surreal to see him introducing evs instead of classic ice cars especially since watching old boxy cars from way back then.

[@TommyHuynh]

I just picked my R1S up 2 weeks ago. I made my deposit almostb3 years ago and although it was a very long wait and very frustrating at times it was definitely worth the wait! By far the beat vehicle I have ever owned. (Cadillac Escalade, Lexus GS and Acura RDX) I am an avid mountain biker and also own a restaurant it's been the perfect SUV to take to the mountains on my days off and can fit all the food and supplies for the restaurant. I already got ceramic tint last week and it's currently at the shop getting matte PPF. Rivian currently only offers test drives to reservation holders but I believe if they can somehow offer test drives for people interested they would sell even more reservations. I don't think after seeing this car in person then driving it that there is any SUV better even those that cost over $150k

[@pitech4446]

You will be sorry you bought one, just give 2-3 months. You should have bought a Tesla MY or CyberTruck haha

[@ettorenamias]

@@pitech4446 Woof....tesla fails to deliver for years. Musk over promises and under delivers constantly.

[@godoftheblock]

@@pitech4446 Why would he buy a Model Y that's too small for him or Cybertruck that doesn't exist?

[@robertferretti7990]

Thanks for the information.

[@pitech4446]

@@godoftheblock Cybertruck coming soon, and can smoke this Rivian easy

[@doubleclutchonline5811]

I've driven the Lightning, and it doesn't come close to the R1. I haven't driven the Hummer, but sitting in it told me everything I needed to know. In comparison to the Ford and GM trucks, the Rivian feels like it was built by superior beings from another planet. Similar to the feeling the first time I drove a Tesla. Rivian has nothing to fear from the established brands. I hope to get my R1S before the end of the year.

[@lloydzufelt7514]

Hummer is made in China nit USA

[@michaellippmann4474]

That is a very cool SUV...met an owner of one a couple weeks ago at an Electrify Canada station while filling my Ioniq5. He and his wife gave me a tour...very nice vehicle! I hope Rivian is super succesful and sells loads of vehicles. I am way beyond needing a pick up (retired electrical/building contractor) but if I needed one I would opt for the Rivian! Mike

[@mortensenvick5711]

How convenient is an EV vehicle compared to a regular ICE in Canada? I should move from Europe to Alberta or Saskatchewan pretty soon and I was wondering if electricity is expensive there.

[@BlixemBlixem]

@@mortensenvick5711 Electricity is relatively cheap in Canada. Alberta is about 12-15c / KwH. So a full battery charge that gets you 500km costs about $20 Canadian. A large SUV would take about $150 to drive similar distance. (500km x 15L/100km X $2)

[@BlixemBlixem]

@@mortensenvick5711 And how convenient? Fairly convenient in BC. Alberta and further East do not like them electric vehicles. So chargers are more spread out.

[@mortensenvick5711]

@@BlixemBlixem Thank you, that make sense. Maybe people in Alberta and east province are afraid that EV may not work very well because of cold weather? I understand people looking for sport cars and manual trasmission not liking the electric cars. But for suvs and family cars, EV are a very good option today.

[@onewayofliving]

30% less range? no way. I can get close to 290-300 miles on mine. It is an amazing car. Acceleration is amazing. Ground clearance is amazing. Off road 35 inch off-road tires and still will beat a Lamborghini Urus in a quarter mile. This thing does EVERYTHING

[@stephaniekelly3223]

Just wondering what wheels you went with? I preordered the 20's but am wondering about the decreased range.

[@onewayofliving]

@@stephaniekelly3223 I bought the 20 inch wheels. I think they look the best, ride the best, best options to replace them as there are lots of 20 inch tires. (Adventure Grey) If you get All Season tires to replace the off road tires, you will get the very best milage of all of the options .. Probably 340+

[@onewayofliving]

@@stephaniekelly3223 20 inch with Big spokes. Great aftermarket support. Lots of choices if you want to get more efficient tires than the 21s and cheaper to replace in the long run.

[@onewayofliving]

@@xk302a When you are pushing a 7000lb truck and ALSO doing a lot of testing with lots of 0-60 runs and having fun with the throttle, then you will get low milage just like any car, but if you drive it like a regular person drives a car, you will get the milage that is advertised.

[@Thindoublechin]

If you are in a cold climate you won't get as much mileage. My dad bought a tesla model 3 and gets about 25% less mileage in the winter. We live in Canada.

[@C8Z51Scott]

I see Rivians all over RTP, NC. I am impressed by a new comer swooped in and became successful.

[@barrygoldwasser5449]

I live in Raleigh and have seen only 1 so far over the past year.

[@rickcagle2]

This is all anecdotal, but in live in Raleigh and I have seen many of the trucks and SUVs. Maybe 20 and 5 respectively

[@C8Z51Scott]

@@barrygoldwasser5449 I am surprised. I live in Southern Raleigh and I see about 10 or so. One of my neighbors has one. I see the pickups and the SUV.

[@jerry.hell2]

I live in the city that is home to the rivian factory. The company is kept afloat by the massive contract they have with Amazon. They’re in the red right now but production has increased some.

[@pharmatographist]

Picked up my R1T in January of this year. It’s the greatest vehicle I’ve owned (Nissan Sentra, Honda Accord, Nissan Titan, Nissan Versa, Mazdaspeed3, Honda Odyssey, Kia Niro EV). It does everything so reliably, and I hope Rivian continues to grow and increase in quality and services!

[@LoveStallion]

I mean, you're coming from a lot of Nissans... ;)

[@pharmatographist]

@@LoveStallion LOL true!

[@saulgoodman2018]

I love physical buttons.

[@Coolhand69]

True, I own an R1S and it’s great but all auto manufacturers should not cheap out and just keep the climate control physical rather than filtering through screens.

[@alcubierrevj]

@@Coolhand69Or at least put climate control and radio buttons in the steering wheel, so eyes stay on road

[@mrmr1734]

Thank you for my auto review fix, Mr. Davis! NO ONE does it as well as you do!

[@AWDRIFTO]

This is our spec and we love it. I love that someone modified this one.. Tint and chrome delete..just like mine.

[@sleeksilver]

Such a unique looking vehicle, they always stand out. I know one person who owns a R1S and he loves his.

[@LafemmebearMusic]

It’s a box 📦

[@rallycobra5738]

​@@LafemmebearMusicexactly what makes it great

[@akeyeguy7996]

Im sure he just bought it. Give him a year or two then decide

[@wesvan6]

It reminds me of a juiced up Ford Flex as far as the body goes.

[@leftcoaster67]

I'm still rooting for Rivian and Lucid. But man are they expensive.

[@Model3P]

Lucid, really? Don't hold your breath. In two years time, nobody is going to hear about them again

[@TheDaizM]

Agreed. These EV’s make me feel broke….

[@rohanm54]

R2S comes out in 2026ish. Will start at $40-$50k ish 👀 You will get less power and only dual motors on the R2 platform

[@MooseMeus]

R2 will be 40k. that's not a huge payment

[@Notoproject2025]

Hopefully prices will come down to normal in a few years . Fisker is planning on building an electric starting at around $30 000 in mid 2025. We'll see if they can actually work out a deal with Foxconn .

[@Montblanc1986]

Rivian has the highest ranked quality in ev automobiles

[@robgindc1]

Rivian should use the full wheelbase/length of the R1T to produce an 8 passenger, full sized R2S to compete against GM & Ford's biggest offerings.

[@JoaquinDagou]

They already said that their next focus is smaller cheaper vehicles!

[@jeffs6090]

I can't wait for the R2 line of vehicles. The smaller proportions look amazing!

[@RylanFarley-l6m]

Rivian has the highest ranked quality in ev automobiles. They really have a look all their own. Very cool.

[@dohc1067]

American made techno beast. Premium, powerful, and from a slight angle, it makes me think about Jeep in a square type of way. Yes, it is high, but so are Land Rovers. 3.3 0 to 60 and 900 plus pounds of torque. 😮

[@julioibarra7156]

They really have a look all their own. Very cool

[@frankcoffey]

The performance is amazing!

[@colin-nekritz]

I took a trip from Buffalo to Birmingham, and Birmingham to Savannah, and back and was honestly floored by how many Rivians, both the Ute and the pickup, I passed, honestly lost count. Good to see so many on the road. It’s insane out Pacifica hybrid only costs $20K less than this

[@Notoproject2025]

I've seen one in my area parked at a hospital so a doctor must own it. Other than that the only other electric vehicles I see are teslas and occasional mach e.

[@John-yg2rt]

0:55 this is Crest Hill Rd in Marshall Virginia, isn't it? One of my favorite roads to ride my motorcycle on while making my way to route 211 in Sperryville Va

[@sammyt3514]

This certainly beats the heck out of the Tesla Cyber Truck in the looks department.

[@BWilliam]

Beauty is only skin deep. It is a good looking vehicle tho.

[@Joeblk10]

So does pretty much every other vehicle ever made lol

[@sammyt3514]

@@Joeblk10 True, but every vehicle ever made is not a competitor for the Cyber Truck, this Rivian is.

[@Joeblk10]

@@sammyt3514 neither is this Rivian. The R1T is.

[@sak1339]

Totally different market segments.

[@PhillyDee215]

This thing is quick

[@JamaicanMeCrazy]

Can't love those pill headlights but everything else is awesome

[@RandyChase]

Have put many miles on my R1S and love it. Took it to Tail of the Dragon and it was epic.

[@R32vdubb]

@randychase what’s the average range you get on a full battery 🔋???

[@RandyChase]

I normally keep it charged to less than 100% based on recommendations, the exception being roadtrips. Most of my longer range daily use, I keep it charged to 250 miles. If I go to 100%, I think it reports about 317 miles of range.

[@stephaniekelly3223]

What size wheels?

[@chase-life]

21" road wheels@@stephaniekelly3223

[@tphvoice]

I love my R1S! Best vehicle I've ever owned, by a long shot.

[@benjaminkessler8169]

I’ve seen many here in the Bay Area, great fit and finish. I would definitely recommend

[@eddieg6436]

My L.A. neighborhood (Calabasas) has A LOT of Rivians, and I’ve talked to many of the owners….they LOVE them!! Just like everything else, in TEN YEARS the Flyover states will love them too.

[@austinfrazier7325]

Doubt it

[@josephpanozzo4815]

It looks almost like all the crossovers you see on the road today. I do wish that car reviews would mention how much basic maintenance items cost like the batteries, the headlights, the taillights, and the wiper blades.

[@gorillaplays8926]

Thats been out for like a year now..

[@KevinJenkins27]

Very little basic maintenance. Tires, windshield wiper fluid, cabin air filter. Battery and drivetrain warranty is 8 years, 175k miles. There's just fewer moving parts that require tending to. Even the brakes last longer due to regenerative braking through the electric motors themselves. In 30 years, people will wonder why they bothered with the complicated maintenance schedules of gas engines for their grocery getters

[@ckim6492]

Such a boss car. Everyone driving one is so lucky!

[@DustinBigMac]

I drive these 5 days a week super fun and durable

[@Sw33tBabyRays]

This guy sounds like he belongs on 1970s radio.

[@CJL36]

Probably the best EV on the market right now.

[@rabit818]

Thought the Rivian was the same size as the Explorer. It’s huge.

[@joshthemediocre7824]

My dream cross country travel vehicle. I'd love to take a solo trip across the US in one of these stopping every 300 miles for an hour, all that comfort, tech and power. I love them.

[@jaydibernardo4320]

Put me in the 'prefer buttons & switches' group. Getting lost in touch screen hell sucks and if that screen dies you can't do much.

[@gdub350]

It appeared you had to adjust your air vents through the screen, because adjusting the vents by hand it’s for peasants I guess.

[@kenpriest5672]

Agreed! I love everything about this vehicle except not having physical buttons and knobs. Then there’s also the price……

[@drjones694]

I love Rivian vehicles Can't wait to get one

[@loren4777]

But I will admit the design on the rivian suv was well built I’ve recently seen one of the new hummer Evs and honestly it still looks the same as the old H2 but just battery operated

[@matthewvernon8876]

THIS RIVIAN SUV IS LEGIT. IVE OWNED 150 plus cars/suv’s. I bought the 835HP large battery pack Rivian two months ago. It is LEGIT. I CAN SAY THAT I LIKE IT MORE THAN ALMOST ABY CAR OR SUV I EVER OWNED. DEFINITELY TOP 2.

[@andrewrizer7686]

Something about how this is all shot, starting with the opening monologue, feels so early 2000s. I have to sometimes check when these were posted...

[@TobyCostaRica]

Did they fix the high power consumption when parked?

[@aconfusedazn]

It’s improved

[@LoveStallion]

The host is in another world. The vocal work is straight out of the mid-90s.

[@rkalla]

1:03 knees right into the chair backs - how comfy

[@chileshemubanga3594]

The side profile looks like a Wagoneer.i love the interior design,side & rear also but that front end,nah!.

[@kevinvr4604]

Who put the Millersville sticker on?

[@ChristopherOvrebo]

That bumper makes the headlights a little less awkward

[@numinous4789]

No braking data? That’s an important thing to be missing.

[@jonathonalsop2120]

Roughly 121ft on all seasons 131ft on the all terrains.

[@Motorweek]

It ended up 110 feet average in our braking testing. Quite a lot to this vehicle so it was likely just cut for time but all of our testing information is always available on our website: motorweek.org/road_tests/2023-rivian-r1s/

[@goonies_never_say_die]

The insurance and repair costs on these could be pretty high.

[@stevequach1869]

Love this car!

[@lloydzufelt7514]

I used to watch this show for years but in Denver Colorado I can't find it

[@Motorweek]

Show times can be found here: motorweek.org/watch/

[@c.a.nixiii4650]

Still toys for the rich. Just a few years ago these kinds of prices would be considered normal for only luxury vehicles or sports cars. Nice looking but a long way to go!

[@irl91sparky]

The next time I feel the need to take an $80,000 SUV to the dragstrip, I'll keep all this information in mind

[@sa4769]

An American Company 🇺🇸 - I love Rivian

[@jasonsmith1143]

I hope my stock goes up

[@JuanAlvarez-ig8ws]

We have an Audi E-tron SUV in our family and with 3 kids under 8, that back seat is at capacity. This weekend we’re test driving the R1S so we’ll see how it stacks up. The etron has all of the luxury features you’d expect from Audi, but it’s tight for a family of 5 and with 210 miles of real world range, the R1S seems like the right upgrade for us.

[@JoaquinDagou]

How did the test drive go?

[@msk3905]

just priced up the mid-level one and at nearly $100K for this that is a don't need to think about this long PASS!

[@arcademania7544]

Lol! I can drive my Tahoe or Ford Expedition for the rest of my life, on $100k worth of gas. 😂

[@Uriah625]

⁠@@arcademania7544well you can’t really compare the Ford Expedition to the R1S. As far as the Tahoe, they are pretty much the same price. In a true comparison, the Rivian is likely cheaper.

[@livingthedash6727]

Mason Dixon drag strip? In Hagerstown, MD?? My family owns it. That's crazy. 😂

[@bearworldwide101]

Idk if its just me but I like the SUV but one thing that turned me off is why all SUVs have to chop inches from the back of their truck siblings? Hummer does it to its SUV version and making it smaller than the truck and only fits 4 maybe 5 with a bench seat. When the Hummer should fit 7 or 8 at best if you're gonna spend 120 grand same with the Rivian if I want to spend 80k give me seating for 8 and a longer rear. It would be like the suburban just boxy and electric and a bit wider in the rear to fit the extra seat in the middle 3rd row.

[@msk3905]

$80k is bottom level no options add options and price shoots up to around $100 real quick

[@bearworldwide101]

@@msk3905 damn so that's base model too smh. Shit a base suburban is 8 to 9 seats and the option of a Diesel or standard 350 V8.

[@msk3905]

@@bearworldwide101 base model with short range battery pack and home charger is $81,250, add long range battery pack and mid range performance motors you are at $92,250.

[@mattalley4330]

I have seen a few of the trucks in my town. They look pretty cool. I would get one of these SUVs if I could swing the payments

[@mortensenvick5711]

This was my favorite in 2019, now my favorite EV suv is the yangwang U8

[@gordonmills2748]

I have no interest in owning an SUV of any type, and I can't get with the nose of this, but the EV revolution is here. I'm a die hard Detroit raised car guy, but after experiencing one at work, I am gonna wind up buying an EV when the right one comes along. Welcome to the future.

[@PhearaXT]

Looks like they are going to do a compilation against Tesla.

[@Novilicious]

This vs the Tesla Model X? Anyone have both or test drove both? Which one is better? Thx for any advice!

[@roberthoyt7921]

I think Rivian's R1S is definitely full-size instead of midsize. It would be more worthy of fighting the Chevy Tahoe/Suburban EV when it comes.

[@matthewnelson5680]

But it’s much smaller, so no.

[@roberthoyt7921]

@@matthewnelson5680 We'll see about that

[@matthewnelson5680]

@@roberthoyt7921 Why wait? Tahoe is 210.7” L and 81.0” W. R1S is 200.8” and 79.3” W. The Suburban is much longer. It’s not even close.

[@oneslackr]

The R1S is comparable to other 3-row SUVs such as the current Honda Pilot in dimensions & cargo capacity. Rivian R1S (201" L x 82" W x 77" H) Current Honda Pilot (200" L X 79" W X 71" H) Behind the 3rd row - 17.7 cu. ft. 18.6 cu. ft. Behind the 2 row - 46.7 cu. ft. 48.5 cu. ft. Behind the 3 row - 88.2 cu. ft. 87.0 cu. ft. Plus frunk storage - 11.0 cu. ft. N/A

[@성태김-c1w]

Boxy Brute

[@CEA9234]

Wondering if I have the chops to work there 🤔

[@4xprops457]

Really reminds me of the AMC pacer.

[@raydoherty5419]

This with access to Tesla supercharger network to me is the best SUV on sale today (gas or electric), wonderful vehicle!

[@grantwilks8706]

This is the first and only time I’ve ever seen only positive comments on a ev. I guess it’s mainly where you live as to whether or not people will buy them. You can’t give them away in my area!!! Nobody wants them around here I guess or maybe it’s the price, I don’t know.

[@offroadskater]

The delivery is just one step away from WW2 news. Very quaint.

[@kathleendrummond1360]

I'm sorry but the headlights are throwing me off and I will never purchase one because of it. They look terrible to me but that is just me.

[@annndddrre]

It's just too expensive. It's not worth paying that much for a car that looks like any other car on the road. Sell it for $40,000 after incentives and I would buy it.

[@cgreenfield6655]

Such a cool truck!

[@supermikeb]

They didn’t even mention tank mode?

[@shunt8084]

I just can’t get past the front end, it looks like a kid designed it. Otherwise, a lot to like if you have a good charging network around.

[@Frank-sp7vu]

Reaching 0-60 in 3.3 seconds seems kinda dangerous somehow.

[@andy42x]

It is. These new electric vehicles have such high performance that it's very dangerous if being driven by less experienced drivers, or those who drive aggressively

[@austinfrazier7325]

Yes. We don’t need soccer moms with that kind of acceleration.

[@Coolhand69]

The vehicle is 7068 lbs. It can be very dangerous.

[@FrozenDonut13]

It definitely is, having a low 0-60 time makes it easier and safer to merge onto the highway, but otherwise it is more dangerous.

[@Coolhand69]

@@FrozenDonut13 Yeah people just need to be responsible with it. If young drivers had easy access to this it would be hell.

[@curtisbme]

They are not reducing their production costs fast enough so I don't see them making it but hopefully at least their delivery truck side can make it.

[@belaoxmyx298]

I’m wanting Rivian to succeed

[@DustinBigMac]

These trucks are so durable

[@Belgoboy]

Love the Rivian but I just couldn’t handle the front headlights. Too toyish looking.

[@nicoligonzales9222]

R1S is 1 word... perfect

[@zelgiggity]

Why does the car have a millersville university sticker?

[@tambulee]

The missing glove box irks me 😂

[@AutobahnSean]

I hope they make a sport/rally wagon

[@BROON71]

I would have win the lottery in order to actually afford one of these electric SUV's....

[@justintime41776]

Cannot wait to win the lotto!

[@subaruwrxsti300]

Boy, it's faaaaaast!

[@dugfriendly]

Charge at over 430mph. Gonna start converting everything.

[@CoFRTheGamerXxX]

I like the brand, but I think they'll be priced out as bigger companies (like Hyundai and Kia for example) push out their SUVs 80K USD is a huge stretch for a lot of families pushing it to the higher income bracket.

[@ytsux9259]

I can't believe John is still around to see the EV era. 😅

[@samdelon]

It looks pretty cool but how reliable it is

[@daison96]

Starts video with most Americans like suvs, and ends video with sharing the $79k price tag. Genius!

[@commandertopgun]

WOW SUPER SUV-- LOVE IT--

[@itzed]

I bought my first DSLR 20 years ago for $2,000. Now the camera built into any phone is far superior. My $2,000 camera is worth about $35 now. I can’t help but think how worthless today’s electric cars will be someday soon.

[@douglasb.1203]

Anything electronic is manufactured for obsolescence. Here's something fun! Take this Rivan to the Ocean and drive on the beach. Good luck with the circuitry.

[@Joeblk10]

​@@douglasb.1203well that's a dumb example. Especially considering these things can run in 3 feet of water

[@funkyflights]

Wow, very nice SUV

[@emery2310]

Rivian along with Tesla and Lucid has shown the market legacy manufacturers can’t compete with their technology and from the ground up architecture. They are the future and with each having their own lane, Rivian will definitely continue to shake up the industry! Mine is coming in 2024!!!

[@LafemmebearMusic]

Objective point here and question: have you sat in or driven any of these vehicles? What you will notice if you do is that while they are very cool and pretty and tech heavy , quickly basic functionality things are still missing and material and build quality is still not quite there especially for 100k 140k plus market. Like if you’re going to charge this much I’d love to see panel gaps and back up cameras that work consistently, that was the experience I’ve had multiple times in a lucid andddd a rivian. See rnd budgets matter folx not just flashy stuff. But you do have a point where as the old heads have money the new manufacturers are being more innovative I just want them to understand I need things like cameras mirrors and start up to work every time and the water that leaked into the trunk of the lucid test car two months ago my friend was given to review… yeah… work to be done. I wish they could work with a mainstay manufacturer to work out the bugs but have the innovation of the new manufacturers as well

[@LearnAboutFlow]

Mass-market EV success is never, ever going to happen unless there are significant breakthroughs with range, price, and infrastructure improvements. ALL EVs are still playthings for rich one way or another. And in the real world, this Rivian probably has a range of 160 miles, if that, as is the case with all EVs. That's not to say the technology is bad, it's just for early adopters with ICE alternatives readily available.

[@daison96]

Haha, you're kidding, right? Toyota has over 1,000 patents on ev/solid-state batteries, plus no manufacturer can touch their reliability.

[@crimsonJerom]

​@@LafemmebearMusic it's is mostly kids, employees of these companies, stock speculators and (no reasons) fan boys who comment. You raise good questions and make solid observations.

[@mw9984]

The natural biotope of an EV is the manufacturers car dump.

[@dougm659]

The styling of the front looks goofy, no idea why they went for that look. The interior looks plastic and cheap and this is not a cheap vehicle!