The 2023 Toyota bZ4x Limited Is A Likable Fully Electric Family SUV

[@theredline]

Toyota’s first fully dedicated electric vehicle doesn’t look good on paper, but after driving both the Solterra and the BZ4X, they both drive a lot better in the real world. It feels a lot quicker on the road, rides nicely, has ton of space inside, and finally has good tech. We’re not sure why the Toyota version is lacking some features found in the Solterra Touring, but we find this car to be a lot more pleasant than the VW ID.4, the Mach E, EV6, and Ioniq5 are more competitive, but the Toyota is less expensive.

[@SereneSpeed]

Fun fact: Same 0-60 (~6.2) & range (250+) as my old Rav4 V6.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@SereneSpeed another fact My Camry is faster than this and gets twice the range and 50% more power Plus I do love the old rav4 v6. If it still existed I’d have gotten one

[@UVA2004]

@@naveenthemachine your camry is 100% EV?

[@naveenthemachine]

@@UVA2004 mines the v6. But even that gets twice the range 😂

[@dude-yg9ez]

@@naveenthemachine another fact: almost all ICE cars have more range than electric cars. Lol

[@dannystaten5701]

Just had my 2008 rav 4 totaled when someone turned left in front of me. Want my next car to be electric, but had been planning on waiting another 5-10 years (only had 106k miles). This review was really helpful. Hopefully I can find one.

[@Hogtown1986]

This looks like one I could own, but I expect it to be vaporware just like the RAV4 Prime. Impossible to get, and be ready to bend over and take a huge dealer markup if your number ever comes up.

[@AshS85]

There's at least 3 Rav 4 primes on my street...vaporware? Lol

[@Hogtown1986]

@@AshS85 3 Primes? Sure, whatever u say.

[@chuckd7423]

@@AshS85 I just did a search on Autotrader and there's no Rav 4 Primes listed for sale within 400 miles of where I live, and that area includes Atlanta, Birmingham, Montgomery, Tallahassee, Jackson MS, Jacksonville FL, Mobile, Pensacola, and New Orleans.

[@dawood2u]

Tesla killer. My first EV will be a Toyota for sure!

[@notsecure]

more like Tesla tickler

[@radiculus27]

You really serious calling this a tesla killer!!!!

[@MichaelOrtega]

This comment aged like milk

[@zenandink3531]

Love ours

[@InsighterofTech]

Tesla has much better specs, Toyota bz4x trash

[@saqu3197]

Honestly , I’d be frustrated driving a prius knowing it takes 10 seconds to get to 60 mph but this on the other hand is definitely eye catching and doesn’t move like a snail

[@aspecreviews]

I don't mind my 2002's acceleration. 0-60 is about 13 seconds, but the electric motor has 260 lb-ft of torque, so it's got some pretty surprising kick from 0-30, which takes 3 seconds. The accelerator response is absolutely linear and instant, which Toyota dulled down in the later Prii to make them feel more smooth and efficient.

[@garrettw99]

@@aspecreviews the throttle response in the new Prii since 2010 can be changed by switching it into power mode, but the throttle feels like an on-off switch on that mode. My 2016 had a lot more of a torquey response than my 2005.

[@brenrob7403]

Nice review thanks. As you said it’s better than the stats would imply.

[@ppmnox]

really enjoy your reviews but I offer this piece of advice: when calling out the sound of something (the chime in this instance) please take a moment to allow your audience to actually hear the sound. :)

[@Enhydra_l]

This video actually kind of sold me on the BZ4X the stats are not impressive but the package as a whole is actually pretty appealing and as someone who owns a Bolt EV it really bothered me how inefficient things like the Mach E and Ioniq 5 are in comparison. This vehicle being so efficient is a big plus to me and as a new englander a heat pump on even the front wheel drive version is a really nice touch.

[@smoguli]

Efficient? Only 250 miles on a 70kw/h battery is not very efficient. And 100kw max charging rate on the AWD is very slow. This car is not on the market yet and it's already 3 years behind in technology.

[@bryanduncan6178]

On the WLTP test the front wheel drive model achieved 4.5 m/kW which is better than the ID.4, Ioniq 5 and EV6!

[@nothere572]

@@bryanduncan6178 WLTP test is very flawed.

[@bryanduncan6178]

So is the EPA cycle, Tesla have gamed it for years!

[@smoguli]

@Zero "renown" for their battery fires? It was before 2020, with LG batteries, which they don't use anymore.

[@killakev408]

KZbinrs that make 4k60fps vids is underrated. Thanks Redline Reviews!

[@asifalimirza]

Completely disappointing compliance car from Toyota. C'mon Toyota, Hyundai and Kia are way of ahead of you. Looking at the specs, power, range and charging times it's so behind everyone else, including Ford and GM LOL. As someone who has owned and bought Toyota's and Lexus products for more than 25 years, I'm more than bummed. I'm glad I didn't wait and bought a Polestar 2. I'm sure this is going to satisfy the average Toyota buyer, but Toyota and Lexus's approach to EV's is just so yesterday

[@brunoheggli2888]

No

[@asifalimirza]

@@bluegarson It's a pretty awesome car so far. Comfortable, well laid out cabin and interior, excellent build quality. Also extremely fast with dual motors and 408 HP/487 ft lbs torque

[@qhinton]

Kia and Hyundai are not reliable. The Chinese brand Polster should do well though.

[@asifalimirza]

@@qhinton That's to be seen, my wife currently drives the 2020 Ioniq EV (lease), so far it's been pretty reliable. Of course Toyota quality is going to be better. I still have hope for Toyota

[@RonBurgundy1873]

Reliability, affordability, predictability, familiarity

[@blaizeautumn]

In their advertising they said it would have a solar charging features but you see a panoramic roof instead

[@rodrigofortis4013]

Thanks for showing us everything I always love your reviews. As far as the car goes I love mostly everything except the dashboard and steering wheel I really don't like it at all. I still thinking about the VW iD4 as my go too but I'm planning to get one in 2023 as I want to save as much to pay it off and for VW to perfect the issue it might have.

[@kenchen704]

Lol don’t think VW can fix its stupidity in interior and ergonomics design.

[@MrChadder007]

I wrote this off when I first saw it online but it has certainly grown on me especially after having checked the Subaru version out in person.

[@Ltmotley]

Incredible review! You are amazing. Thank you for the very detailed, informative and helpful video. You are the best!

[@maxellmadhatters9581]

Yea there goes my chance of buying an ev anytime soon, 40k-50k for car to me is crazy, ill find a just as good hybrid and spen way less

[@jasenrock]

its getting cheaper every year. Hang tight and there will soon be a civic priced EV

[@juanzingarello4005]

@@jasenrock I hope you are right. Tesla jacking up the price of their Model Y from $43k to $65k doesn’t convince me much. And while these cars have lower MSRP dealers will just mark them up like crazy. If things don’t change when the mandate an end to ICE cars, EVs will be toys limited to the rich and the rest of us will be forced to own horse and buggy like the early 1900s.

[@itrax3015]

Equinox EV next year starting at $30k

[@greensleeves8095]

Gas powered cars are going up as well. No way EV vehicles will get any cheaper.

[@waynelewis9110]

@@juanzingarello4005 There are mandates to end *new* ICE vehicle sales. That won’t mean that used ICE vehicles will be illegal to drive/operate or anything, just that all auto manufacturers must be producing *only* EVs, and that producing ICE vehicles will be illegal. By then, EVs will be very affordable, and there will also be robotaxi services that people can use. I’ve been quite discouraged about where prices for EVs have been going lately as well. My girlfriend and I have been saving up for a Model 3, but we’ve been priced out of buying it for now with its $48k starting price. No way I’d pay that much for a standard range Model 3, but there are tons of other people that have and would. Once Tesla’s production can meet demand, prices will come down, and they will introduce a more affordable model as well. Until then, I’ll continue driving my 2004 Honda Accord Coupe. I won’t be buying another vehicle unless it’s an EV.

[@rollingreclinerRecumbent]

Another great review! I like the styling of the BZ4X better, except for those hideous black panels on the front. The interior is nice except for the instrument cluster design and placement. I believe the slower charging rate will result in a longer battery lifespan.

[@AbrahamArthemius]

Honestly just go with the black paint, it hides that panel nicely tbh.

[@CumBrianFries]

@@AbrahamArthemius One shouldn't have to make such compromise when buying a car. Black cars are boring, not to mention hot af in the summer.

[@dhruvb38]

Afaik the slower charging rate has nothing to do with lifespan. Batteries last 10 years with about 2% degredation (based on Tesla's I think) so it's not a big deal

[@willnye9788]

I concur. Many EVs from other manufacturers the battery will have to be replaced sooner versus Toyota/Lexus the battery will actually retain its capacity even after 10 years well over passed warranty and or 100K miles. Smart move from Toyota.

[@CumBrianFries]

@Zero I don't think anyone is keeping their EV that long, at least not for most folks. I know I'll pass down my brand new EV to some college kid 5 years from now.

[@bamagrl26]

I have been waiting for this review. I'm not quite sold on these EV's just yet. I'm a Lexus Lover and wanted to see if the Lexus version is going to be worth the money once it's available in the US

[@paulira7407]

If the dual motor AWD version had a driving-range of at least 300 miles with performance figures in the low 4 second range for 0-60, I would have given it a second look. I’ll wait for the next-generation version since it seems like EV technology will be making huge leaps within the next decade when it comes to performance and driving-range.

[@johnnow1]

You can’t wait forever. You never know if you are going to be around.

[@Antiguan_Dart]

I agree - I still think EV outright ownership is still in the realm of early adopters in the same way as in 1999 42 inch 1024x768 pixel resolution plasma TV’s were £5000! And now for less than a £1000 you can buy a 60in 4K tv. Economies of scale, improved manufacturing and particularly battery tech will mean much cheaper vehicles. Let fleet owners, businesses and those lucky people with generous pensions or other windfalls and those happy enough to do lease deals take the early EV industry development hit.

[@tibsyy895]

In the ICE age when you bought a Toyota it meant quality and reliability! I hope this will continue in the EV age as well!!!!!

[@Empiro3]

AWD feels like a much worse pick for 90% of people. It's barely any more powerful (and lets face it, you're not buying either for the 0-60), more expensive, lower range, and slower charging. Why would you ever want to get that over the FWD? Only if you do off-roading (which is that 10% of people) would you ever want AWD.

[@joeldowell5059]

People who live in snowy regions may prefer that. From my experience, only 2WD in snow doesn't work all that well in comparison to AWD. But, then again, with the current technology, I'm not too sure that having a fully electric vehicle in cold areas would be that practical since the batteries have an optimal temperature to work at.

[@mirtos39]

my guess is that the northeast will only carry AWD. its pretty common that you cant even get the 2WD in the northeast.

[@andrewcweaver]

Toyota - “look guys we can be quirky too!!” *does the absolute fucking MOST*

[@MegaRetr]

I am STUNNED at the clarity and the amount of information he delivers.

[@timdsd]

Looks great! Thanks for explaining the difference in charging speed between the RWD and AWD models. I'd be interested in buying one, but a Toyota salesperson told me the supply will be extremely limited in the U.S. Sounds like the rollout of the RAV4 Prime.

[@dethpuck]

yeah i was worried about that. Dealers will probably mark them up like the Rav4 Prime as well. I have an ID4 on reservation that i confirmed won't have markup. toyota was just a little too late with this one.

[@peacepeace10]

I got mine last week and I love it specially the price difference and 90% battery life after 10 years.

[@rambotulip]

nice, what color

[@peacepeace10]

@@rambotulip Black

[@aalberto4961]

I do appreciate that Toyota has finally developed an EV available for purchase. Can’t wait to see what other vehicles they will come up with in the future. If they ever make a 4Runner EV that has at least a 100 KWh battery pack, I’ll really consider getting one. In the mean time I’ll keep my 2 Chevrolet Bolt EVs for daily driver/beater and I just ordered a fully loaded BMW iX 50 as a 3rd car for leisure.

[@matthewalexis]

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[@MalamIbnMalam]

This is a great review, I wasn't sure about taking Kirk Krifels review seriously as he is a hardcore Toyota/Lexus fanboy. But since you doing this review, it is more believable. With that said, compared to the Korean vehicles, is the $52k pricepoint worthwhile for the limited? I believe the Ioniq 5 Limited AWD and the EV6 GT-Line AWD would be better bargains right? Does the Toyota have a better infotainment system>

[@dein45d]

Whoa! The camera angle in the start made you look tiny and then become bigger and bigger

[@geromemanicia3809]

I love that the Solterra and the bz4x are siblings

[@rambotulip]

because of subaru we got the deep snow mode

[@ramez5881]

Toyota design center needs help, the car is extremely ugly.... Just think for a moment After 2-3 years of new Toyota on the road, the car is outdated. Example (Carolla, Rav-4, Venza, Prius). I will give Toyota credit when it comes to reliability, engineering and quality.

[@naveenthemachine]

I think the current Camry XSE is attractive even now

[@jasonnelson5251]

Yeah, the black cladding has got to go

[@eiknarfmaharba221]

Hybrid is the answer. Pure electric means range anxiety. Nuts to pure electric. Give the people at least 100 km back up electric range. That should sell like hot cakes. Wish fisker ocean would take this challenge. What a piece fisker ocean is. Go for it

[@colinsimmons]

Why is the front camera not centred, or at least balance with a second? 😭😭😭 My OCD is going nuts looking at it

[@ossxq]

If the camera in the middle, would be a slightly angle that is a blind spot, that is why they didn't put it in the middle so the camera can see everything upfront no blind spots.

[@isaac198428]

Same here. I like things symmetrical so even back license plate on rear side of of Range Rovers bother me. lol

[@stockdetective4396]

They forgot a few letters/numbers. If should be BZ4XYZ74362429537 😂

[@David-qi8ku]

Other than anticipated reliability, I fail to see how this is a better choice than the ID4. Sofyan, please explain. From what I see, the VW bests this in several areas.

[@bigcjm]

Not dollar for dollar it doesn't. If it beats it at more money as it does well thats your reason.

[@willyolio9590]

@@bigcjm It beats it for less money.

[@sammydavis991]

The VW interior is garbage. The Toyota handles much better.

[@16kn]

i tried preordering for this car last week and it's back up for at least 3 years of waiting period already and it's not even out yet.

[@justinstewart3248]

I would choose the FWD version for sure. Faster Charging speed and additional range is everything. Good tires overcome AWD in a lot of situations.

[@skavanger408]

AWD still feels better and especially with electric. FWD doesn’t touch AWD even with good tires.

[@justinstewart3248]

@@skavanger408 sure, I agree with you. But in general, AWD is really over blown in how really necessary it is for passenger driving. A great set of winter tires all will work just fine with FWD no problem.

[@skavanger408]

@@justinstewart3248 wasn’t even talking about winter driving but just driving electric. All that torque needs to be evenly put on the ground.

[@theman4884]

Is it me or does the car in the thumbnail look like it has been in an accident?

[@willrobinson4280]

222 mile range in the upper half of the US winters? So, 160-170 effective? can't do much family travel with that.

[@Avatar1946]

If there's no rear wiper I'm not interested. The Tucson has a wiper hidden under the rear spoiler so it's not impossible to offer one.

[@JR-zz4zy]

Word of the day: INSTANTANEOUS

[@johnjames7712]

Toyota had a chance to price it really competitively and they failed miserably. At $42k, they gave their customers more of a reason to get the base RAV4 Prime SE, which starts around $39k over the base BZ4X. The question now, is which one will be easier to get?

[@naveenthemachine]

See my comment. I don’t remember exactly who but I think you might have been one of the people who made fun of my earlier comment where I said the bz4x is a fail before it goes on sale 🤦‍♂️ The fact that you’re disappointed only makes me happy knowing I was right and you were wrong and you managed to embarrass yourself calling me a troll

[@criancrna1487]

How much did you expect this car to be? At least as a consumer you have an option between a BEV or a PHEV. A little everything for everyone.

[@brynnleahnayvieghlaykynnn6175]

@@naveenthemachine imagine caring that much about a KZbin comment

[@ooochakalaka]

That center console is going to be one big dust magnet...

[@SuperMistland]

I'm really glad Toyota is making a ground-up EV, it's a big deal for overall EV adoption - and the interior seems solid. But I'm not a fan of the exterior, its way less appealing than the Ionic 5 / EV6, or the Mach E. The BZ4X exterior looks like a step backwards from current gen RAV4's.

[@timaustin2000]

@Zero all EVs will have that because modern EVs - no matter the make - won't lose more than 10% of range in the first 2 years (typically, much much less) and that's when the degradation generally occurs. Toyota are not unique in this.

[@kenchen704]

@@timaustin2000 ​ BS. You really have to babysit the batteries to have that great of degradation. Every batteries degrades, but not everyone degrades the same rate. Toyota could have stuck a 400 bhp system in this 71kWh car and upped the battery rating to greater range easily, but they didn’t to protect the batteries

[@Kickflip215]

Probably only thing that’ll get me to buy it is cause it’s fully built in Japan that always has been a good selling point for me… only car left that’s built from Japan purely is a Prius and that car is like a tank it won’t die

[@j.pgoodwin9020]

I Understand it is built by BYD on the BYD platform with bodywork by Toyota

[@harryaxe8153]

No rear wiper? Not good when reversing in a very busy parking lot during a rainstorm!!!!!

[@71supa]

I could see myself driving one of those, thanks for the nice review. Respectfully... hearing car reviewers talking about the lack of a "frunk" in a new 2022 EV design reminds me of consumer electronics reviewers complaining that an iPad didn't have a dedicated keyboard in 2011. Frunk's are going the way of tail fins and tail gate mounted spare tires; they are over. With new skateboard chassis designs that have long wheel bases and short overhangs we aren't going to see very many frunks in new EVs and we should stop being preoccupied with them. Have a summit with Roman and Alex and who ever else and agree to stop obsessing about frunks so the auto makers can stop apologizing for not including a vestigial nod to an outdated idea.

[@Darclover82]

Definitely don’t agree with that. They are being lazy in design and not packaging the cars to accommodate a frunk. I use my frunk all the time.

[@Darclover82]

And they don’t even have a glove box that’s crazy.

[@chuckd7423]

Extra storage space in a vehicle is never an outdated idea, especially if you can get that space using interior packaging that doesn't increase vehicle external dimensions.

[@ARSciandra]

Thanks for the great video(s)! Please tell me what the listed MPGe is for these cars, and perhaps in the future for a all BEVs.

[@Iso_Jay01]

For a moment I thought it was the Fisker Ocean

[@anothersiguy]

Could have been a decent looking CUV if it werent for the contrast fender/wheel arch things... why

[@pdeblois1880]

Why pay mega bucks for AWD when statistics show it’s only used 2% of the time?

[@Obeisance-oh6pn]

while every other mfg is looking to "wow" and take the spotlight of Tesla, then here comes Toyota bringing the heat -- actually, there is nothing to talk about

[@isaac198428]

There front end and plastic cladding on the side was co-designed by the guys from GM’s Pontiac Aztek era. Trying to top the ugly. Only a black color can do this car justice matching the black cladding.

[@EagleWolfSparrow]

somehow this one looks way better than Lexus RZ450e.....lol I think it's the driver console screen. I prefer it like Tesla Newer MOdel!!!!!!! Not the Screen tilted to Driver crap

[@josejose2100]

Man I hate those touch buttons for ac and such. Fingerprints and swirl scratches all over it. Why are buttons so bad.

[@MaximusDC406]

I like everything except no moon roof , bummer 😅

[@DeniJasmina]

The VW ID.4, literally, crushes this thing in every way.

[@CalvinCooke18]

But it's German junk goodluck with the garage trips every now and again

[@OmniVenom]

What about charge stations. Everywhere I go I see Tesla charge stations. Can 3rd party vehicles use the Tesla charge stations? (Dumb question I know, but I don’t own a EV)

[@DinosaursPWNify]

Why does the back of it look like the Aztec? Pretty spacious though I guess

[@mak2866]

Great review, as always!

[@applerider4205]

Electric vehicles are completely different from internal combustion engine vehicles. Toyota's overall electric vehicle technology level is very low.

[@muhammadkhan5898]

Your ignorance is showing. Toyota might only just be getting into building pure EVs but they have decades of experience with Hybrids, not to mention that they were considered among the leading innovators on that front. Most importantly, Toyota owns the most battery patents among manufacturers, and this is especially noteworthy because of the number of solid-state. battery patents they've invested in. So no, they're not down on technology, they're just getting started, and at a generally lower price than their competitors.

[@flavioa6351]

@@muhammadkhan5898 you were wrong the second you said hybrid. Hybrid and electric are nowhere near the same

[@jakelee4212]

@@muhammadkhan5898 wake up bro. You have no idea what you saying. Hybrid and pure electric car use totally different technology including battery type. New electric motor car Era is coming. Unfortunately, Toyota won't keep their position. You will see it in near future.

[@DPT1070]

It’s the Prius of EVs. Appeal to different group of buyers more of a ID4 than a Model Y/Mach E. The Model Y is the sports car of EVs,it’s body structure is very rigid and suspension is taught, more for younger sportier crowd. Infotainment is like a Blackberry phones, lots of buttons, as suppose to minimalist design. I can see the market for this. Whoever can produce a 35k SUV at mass scale will dominate. Hoping for Model 2 hatchback or Model Z SUV at 35k, announced in 2023 for 2025 release.

[@OldThomMerton]

Good review, Sofyan. - I think this one is gonna disappoint both Tesla and MachE aficionados and VW both . . . the rig seems to be a good 'first EV' for the masses, not a BTTW drive that will please the fanboys who want 0-60 in the 3-4 second range. It also seems to be a serious improvement over the ID.4 as the 'middle of the road' EV/CUV. This should sell well. - Ah, Sofyan is laughing as he accelerates . . . a clear stamp of approval. That means that the 'Breezy 4x' has some zip, and that's a good sign to me!

[@j.pgoodwin9020]

What is it's charging speed ? Which matters a lot

[@kizo172]

Toyota was alwsys reffered to as APPLIANCE. This is true meaning to that.

[@jermainec2462]

Sometimes just what you need in life appliance something that will work everyday

[@kizo172]

@@jermainec2462 Sometimes appliance makers manage to sell less for more with that perception of working everyday. There are warranties and then extended warranties and then extended extended warranties. Dont settle with an appliance for a car. I did with a Rav4 and I regret everytime I sit in it.

[@jermainec2462]

@@kizo172 well I need my car to be appliance I needed to cut on every day I needed to work for years and years I don't have money to keep fixing on stuff after the warrant is gone I don't have time to be keeping up with the Joneses I don't give a fuck about them LOL I want the car to cut on and work with very little maintenance and Toyota has proven that to me multiple times and Honda too for the most part so if it's a little slower not quite as fast but the battery lasts long that's fine with me... Lol

[@kizo172]

@@jermainec2462 Toyota proven me the exact opposite. The safety systems went nuts and needed rewiring, the cabin blower fan broke, the sunroof mechanism is broken and the fix is more that what Im willing to pay for my 3 yr old Rav. My NX200T is a whole other level of problems. Infact Toyota is record holder in recalls in both number of problems and affected cars but they managed to hack ppl's minds. But one thing they did the best. Building basic tractors and marketing them as reliable cars.

[@kizo172]

@@jermainec2462 As I said I fell for their "reliability" marketing trick and I regret it deeply. Cause you can easily quantify comfort features or high performance or lack of both in a Toyota but reliability is not quantifiable and they sell it to you until proven wrong lol As soon as the market frenzy cools down Im gonna get rid of TOYota and Lexus. Ask ppl around you if they had problems with their car brands more that you did with Toyota. The answer will be NO. But do you get less features, less performance, worst cabin quality, worst design compared to competitors and its a sure thing. Reliability is a myth.

[@markovwms]

The three ladies in the background had me dying of laughter

[@nintendoatarikiller]

28:49 they're saving those features for the Lexus version

[@nevillejames2200]

When will you do a review on rivian R1S?

[@TheWorst_time]

I love your reviews!

[@danek893]

Hopefully there are no holes in the body if badges are removed.

[@hazcotube]

Isnt JBL the same system as Harman kardon ?

[@HevaNaisdey]

Price will be 60k. Not very likeable if you can't buy the car at its intended price. Toyota says the inventory for this car will be extremely limited.

[@willnye9788]

I can't wait for you to review the new RZ450e from Lexus

[@dougholmes6631]

Great video my brother!

[@lloydmwinga5628]

Just my EV wish list -Min 600miles range 0-60 under 7sec -Adaptive cruise control only (don't need the driver assist nonsense) -AWD -Carplay and android auto -Sweet panaromic sunroof -Cross over - around Usd40k Car makers? Who will make for me this EV

[@fabuleuse533]

Make it Yourself

[@lloydmwinga5628]

Don't have the tools

[@Darclover82]

You aren’t getting 600 mile range. Especially for 40k

[@letstalkraptors4422]

Why no memory seat?

[@keelecie]

Is there no spare tire?

[@MaxDrougge]

Hello. Does anyone know how big the trunk is in litres?

[@KetsuekiJR]

why did they pick that textile stuff for the interior? imo it cheapens the look dramaticly

[@DarkMerchant2222]

I think Porsche is the only one designing decent electric cars and Ford. But these cars scream “I’m electric” while keeping outrageous designs.

[@zsamps]

Porsche, Tesla, Hyundai/KIA, and Ford. Tesla has kept the Model S exterior the same for the past 10-11 years it's existed, and it looks conservative. These 4 are killing the other EVs.

[@jjppdr42]

Did he say 52 thousand? I think I heard it wrong

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

Of course, it’s expensive, I would rather spend 3k extra to get Ionq 5, better tech, better performance, faster charging, longer range.

[@targetpace2680]

I heard that twice and can’t believe it. It’s up against premium competitors.

[@midicronica1]

Yeah, for the top spec but 52k and count on a dealer markup. Add that you’ll probably find it impossible to find one too before the tax credit phases out this summer… not worth it.

[@Doc1855]

Please offer Tan or Brown, or Red interior colors. Also add a spare tire.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

I agree. The interior choices are all grayscale. Could use warmer colors.

[@bigwatts9694]

I'm done with electric cars, I went back to gasoline because of all hassle associated with electric cars and trucks ! No more for me , I've learned my lesson and my " ELECTRIC CAR ANXIETY SYNDROME IS GONE " ... Happy days are here again !!

[@dapperlygrungy3189]

I saw the Lexus version 450e on the road a couple days ago. Its nice. But at a 196 mile range and a MSRP of $60K. I will pass on both Toyota and Lexus..

[@rahulgorantyal1650]

where is this place?

[@johng2490]

The "Buzz 40"

[@mosfet500]

I checked Gault Toyota in upstate NY on 9/29/22. They are selling these cars at $10k over list. They have two at ~$52k each. That's $62K plus tax or close to $70k and unless you are willing to buy this car for cash figure another $4K to $6K interest on a load. That brings the total to over $75K. Its not worth it.

[@rambotulip]

52 k everything included with tax for a limited in boston

[@mosfet500]

​@@rambotulip People don't realize how much you have to pay for these things. $52k, plus tax = $56,160. No one I know is buying it for cash so add another $5k for loan interest, that's $61,160 you'll pay over the next 4 to 6 years. It gets worse, now you have insurance for that car - not cheap! I got a loaded Bolt EUV, came in at $35,190, my dealer who I bought from before, gave me $2k off so it was out the door for around $33k after taxes. I put $20K down and will pay it off in the next year to year and half. I got leather seats, adaptive cruse, surround vision, Bose audio, HD rear view mirror, side assist, pedestrian braking, lane assist, power driver seat, sunroof, navigation, heated front and rear seats, heated steering wheel, wireless Android and 247 miles of range. Slow charging? I don't care, I've owned EV's for over six years, the number of trips we take a year isn't worth the extra expense. I charge from home on my paid off PV and haven't paid for gas in six years, the Bolt is a very efficient EV. Reviewers talk about EV's like everyone is running back and forth across the country on a weekly basis, hey reviewers super fast charging isn't a big deal, stop making it one! Reviewers aren't plopping down $60k to $75k for cars, I take them with a grain of salt, we're paying for these things. I don't want to be on the road driving around in $$60k car, especially when I can drive a great EV for half that.

[@rambotulip]

@@mosfet500 no 52 was taxes included, lojack too (1k which i never wanted ), and includes car delivery which every car now has about 1.5k...ill get back about 3.5k in rebates maybe something during taxes too, but then 2k to install a charger lol...but this is excellent in the snow, wide and heavy and space for my dog, cant go with bolt otherwise, i put a down tp buy lexus nx350 hybrid

[@mosfet500]

​@@rambotulip $52k plus $2k with interest on a loan and higher insurance rates, figure around $60k when you're done. After rebates ($2k NY, $7500 fed), total cost is $23,690 plus $1,600 for my loan. Toyota doesn't get the fed rebate and GM includes the charger installation and you get an included dual level EVSE that's good for 11.5kW charging. I already have an EVSE I personally installed from our last Bolt so I opted for the $500 EVGO free credit. By the way my insurance went down from my last Bolt with GM's price drop. We live in the Catskill mountains which is a snow shed, rain shed area, I run Bridgestone Blizzaks all winter with no problems and I have a 600 foot plus uphill driveway but people think they need AWD. FWD with traction control is pretty darn good and you get longer range. Dragging around two motors drops your range which is why the AWD BZ4 has lower range than the 2WD BZ4. Space? I put a 350lb. granite surface plate for my shop in the back and drove 150 miles round trip to pick it up. I bought five 80 lb. bags of concrete mix from Home Depot and took it home with ease, could have gotten more in but only needed five bags. How big is your dog! Edmonds actual range for the BZ4 is 227 miles, they got 265 with Bolt EUV, we get over 300 in the summer, our 2020 Bolt EV with an estimated range of 259 did even better. With the 72.8 kWh battery it takes longer to charge the BZ4 from home than the 65kWh Bolt. I'm off grid most months of the year, the Bolts efficiency is ideal for off grid applications and at 1k lbs. lighter than the BZ4 the tires will last longer. I think you guys should stop listening to auto reviewers and start listening to people who have been driving EV's for years. Next month reviewers will be raving about some other EV but you'll be paying for your car for the next 4 or 5 years. This idea that we have to stay on top of the latest technology is, as the Brits say, bullocks.

[@rambotulip]

@@mosfet500 i bought it because i liked the car not because its an ev or some reviews , otherwise i would ve stuck with my prius prime and hyundai suv...i prefer hybrids over electric and had a deposit for a lexus before getting this...but completely agree with you not to listen to reviews and opinions about new cars, just base it on your preferences and actually now that i look at reviews bz4x got horrible opinions as an ev, but drives great and looks good to me

[@SilentServiceCode]

7:07 on the front of the vehicle?

[@leeedens9497]

So, the EPA range for the XLE FWD/AWD (is 252/228 miles) and the Limited FWD/AWD (is 242/222 miles), with a peak charging rates of 150 kW for the FWD models and 100 kW for the AWD models, so, DC fast charging (Level 3) to 80% (since Toyota didn’t say the batteries are LFP I’m assuming that 80% thing for DC fast charging, so, that 222 range is really 177.6 and max 252 range is 201.6, that’s the problem) is a little less than an hour and Level 2 to 100% is about 9 hours, no true one-pedal driving (so, Toyota is using regenerative braking instead of one-pedal driving to recapture lost energy while coasting and help slow you down, that no one-pedal driving, is probably why it doesn't have better range and will lead to faster brake replacement vs other compact CUV/SUV EV models), now for pricing, the XLE FWD/AWD ($43,215/$45,295) and the Limited FWD/AWD ($47,915/$49,995) note, prices included destination charges, you know the specs already, so, how does it stack up against other CUV/SUV compact too small midsize EVs, while Toyota strategy of not chasing Tesla’s RWD based layout like some others car companies is the big bet here, I said it needed to be priced under the VW ID.4, but given its list of standard features, costing more than the ID.4 may be justified, but the real problems are these two things, the Chevy Bolt EUV is cheaper and almost offers about the same range as the FWD bZ4X, and the upcoming Chevy Equinox EV with a 30k starting price, that vehicle is going to be a problem for several compact CUV/SUV EV models, at the end of the day, it’s basically what Toyota said they were doing with their first true EV, I’m assuming the Lexus version the RZ450e will have more power and cost at least 10k more, creating a Tesla Model Y problem for the Lexus EV, time will time, I hope that rumor of under 10k (7k) coming to the US this year is just a rumor and not true, typical Toyota isn't class-leading in anything but does just enough for its customers to keep coming back, the Model Y and Mustang Mach E (clearly offer better performance, range, and useable space, not to mention their self-driving tech), but you aren't really buying a Toyota for performance too start with (right), overall, does it make more sense to buy a gas RAV4 (about a 14k difference), hybrid RAV4 (note, hybrids are only AWD, so, the price is a XLE AWD, about a 13.5k difference), plugin RAV4 (note, plugin hybrids are only AWD, so, the price is the cheapest SE AWD, about a 4k difference) or the EV bZ4X, with the EPA numbers, you can do the calculation for breakeven, I would say it depend on your circumstances, but with its starting price, for most (probably ?, the RAV4 Prime or bZ4X), battery warranty info (what happen to that 90% charge for 10 years, thing) 8 years / 100k warranty

[@112deeps]

Appreciated.... I dont feel comfortable with anything that doesn't achieve 275+ miles realistic range. & fast charge capability 150 kWh. I am on my first EV Kia E Soul & getting 310 in city & 260-280 in mixed use. Learning process before i await for newer EV with much larger Range & fast charging over next 2 to 5 years

[@gadfly149]

Poor decisions: no glove box, piano black everywhere, steering wheel blocks display, no seat memory, JBL. Not ready to trade my Prius then.

[@adofoi30]

I love your reviews but American reviewers have gotten so used to garbage, uncomfortable, impractical, and overly expensive designs with 2017 distance / charging specks from manufacturers and then singing their praises. I’m glad you have (low key) pointed out those obvious flaws. Great for a Toyota product, impractical crap from a Subaru perspective. Low cargo space.

[@kizo172]

Standard for a Toyota is so low that everything is a great Toyota these days 😂

[@Fuck_Snowflakes]

Why do manufacturers keep thinking there’s no need for a rear wiper? It also gets dusty or dirty while driving. Sometimes you need to clean it on the go.

[@victorluke5816]

So has Toyota figured out why the wheels keep falling off yet? That's a big red flag when the wheels don't stay on the car.

[@ricardoseales6501]

Question is when will Toyota send these electric cars in showrooms in Canada as I can see there is a lack of cars for customers to purchase now why .

[@rsi4561]

"at 5'7" i have lots of room" hahahhahahahah yeah.. we could fit 10 of you back there.

[@domino430]

doesn't look too bad for a 1st gen design. the prius didn't look so great the first time around. excited!

[@tails300]

So if the battery supplier is Panasonic for the FWD version, who’s supplying the AWD models?

[@bryanduncan6178]

CATL for the moment, it's hoped that Panasonic will take over supply in Q4

[@darriontunstall3708]

I really love it! It’s very amazing! I love all electric cars

[@CandycaneBeyond]

Is this car made in America or Japan?

[@marketbuy]

I’m waiting for my Nissan Ariya.

[@joeycandle7688]

How much for us $$ electric suv?? and how many miles for recharge again and take how long to full 🤔

[@criancrna1487]

Its 150kw charging. Three charging options offer drivers flexibility - use rapid public charging and achieve an 80% charge in around 30 minutes with a 150 kW fast-charging system, or plug into a home socket or a wall box at home.

[@joeycandle7688]

@@criancrna1487 thanks

[@smoguli]

@@criancrna1487 100kw charging for the AWD. For comparison an ioniq 5 will charge at 250kw... Not only that but the Toyota maxes out at 6kw for a home charger while most new EV will go up to 11kw. So it's charging speed is half of current gen EV from other manufacturers

[@manirulislam9148]

perfect thanks i got one toyota bZ4x

[@criancrna1487]

A Model Y LR is $63,000, the Model Y isn’t $20,000 better. People will vote with their wallets.