The 2S38 Is Absolutely Broken

[@CheezeSpartan]

Community: “the PUMA and PT-76-57 are busted” Gaijin: “No worries, we combine both in new vehicle. Now two former are less good, yes? ))))”

[@raketny_hvost]

how is this crap with -5 angles and b.r. 9.7 is equal to PUMA?

[@ishiddddd4783]

@@raketny_hvost not equal, better

[@lukeskylicker]

@John PUMA used to be busted. On release only a handful of tanks at or below BR that had APDS that could reliably defeat the extreme angle of the UFP (otherwise the engine eats the round) and it was borderline immune to HEATFS outright.

[@CatsAreAmazing8187]

@@lukeskylicker Yeah at 8.3 was busted, but it really isn’t busted 8.7+ (really good at 8.7 tho, alr at 9.0, but the problem is that it’s currently 9.3, still works though)

[@TheArklyte]

​@John main strength of Puma is that it's in good line up right now. It and Begleit form first wave of NATO offensive at this BR and they cover weaknesses of each other. Puma has staying power, Begleit has offensive power, both are fast and both can ruin early heli spawns. This thing and PT-76-57? They're solo menaces.

[@infirmusshugikeri1455]

The fact that Gaijin added this vehicle, put it on 9.7 br and made it premium is probably the most Gaijin thing I have seen in a long time

[@mfw9902]

Second to the su25 probably

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Watch them milk everybody dry with it. They won't nerf it until their next OP premium is ready for release.

[@vashbain3136]

the fact there is an entire high tier premium for russia is insane, you can get ka-50, 2s38, Turms, the t-80 from research, the bmp....

[@farmcat9873]

To bad when I bought this tank the minute it came out for sale it was labeled a SPAA and that's what it actually is in real life maybe Gaijin should make it labeled as a SPAA instead of a light tank. So its a light tank because its made from a BMP-3 body

[@ubermorph7661]

did it cost GE or was it a pack?

[@michaelhowell2326]

The trials and tribulations faced with the scout drone are starting to be one of my favorite things on these videos.

[@SadisNic]

Lets not forget it has better tracking than the Otomatic since the Oto has been bugged at 20 degrees for a year.

[@EasyAL_YT]

Doesn't the oto have to have radar on for it to track aswell? (Which is a disadvantage as there are many helis and jets hunting anything that pings them).

[@SadisNic]

@@EasyAL_YT There are currently two bugs that have been affecting the Oto for about a year. 1. The Oto's tracking radar, the VPS-A06 should be able to track targets +/-90 degrees from the front of the turret but currently on tracks about +/-10 degrees. You can't lead a jet without losing lock every single time unless it's flying directly at you. 2. The IRST is tied to the gunner and commander optics and isn't tied to the radar mast at all. IRST is currently only usable with the radar mast up. So you are forced to have the search radar, the VPS-A05, up making your already massive profile larger and allowing any jets with RWR to immediately know they're at least being detected.

[@EasyAL_YT]

@@SadisNic Yeah i grinded the whole Italian tree just for the oto... honestly I just use it as a TD, having the radar on and being detected by any and everything in the air is just not worth the tracking capabilities. I hope they fix the issues you raised and maybe even increase the apdfs pool it gets access to seeing how the new Russian 2S38 can carry apdfs without limit.

[@GodWentAFK]

Not to mention the OTO still only gets 10 rounds of APFSDS

[@EasyAL_YT]

@@GodWentAFK it's 12 I think but yeah... not enough.

[@Rosenrot_raccoon]

Who would have ever thought that Gaijin would put OP premium at way too low br again? (ofc they will raise the br after enough get sold)

[@jarlballin4745]

It will probably do even better at a higher BR honestly just because of the teams

[@scifiordie]

Honestly I hope it stays at 9.7, they ruined my 8.7, 9.3,9.7 and 10.0 German lineups at least let me keep my 11.0 lineup

[@blockstacker5614]

this has happened too many times to count

[@Red_N_Blue]

I am doubtful that they will even move it up.. If they do.. It'll probably only move to 10.0 even though I think it could sit comfily at 10.7 or 11.0

[@joshjonson2368]

Yeaa... it's a Russian premium so doubt

[@railfan8444]

this thing hasn’t even finished russian trials yet

[@Spookston]

AbramsX / MPF when :)

[@railfan8444]

also now that i think about it this is a precedent to fix the hstv-l, such as reload rate (down to 0.85s), give the he-vt/flechette rounds, fix the spalling of xm885, etc

[@PureFalcon1]

everyone keeps telling me year of adoption should never be considered and that it’s fine for light tanks to be technologically ahead of everything else at their BR :)))))

[@Satanperkele]

The ussr propaganda machine has to start somewhere.

[@Spookston]

@@railfan8444 You would think, but I don't have much hope

[@Waterscape646]

What's completely absurd with this vehicle is how out of this world is its tankiness. Most things should just obliterate it according to its defensive characteristics, but something paranormal seems to happen when you shoot at it, making it absurdly tanky. At some point there must be some parameters they can adjust to improve the survivability of a vehicle out of nowhere and make it more or less OP.

[@albero319]

@uNnHkP8mza tell me you are joking

[@ivancsontos7011]

@uNnHkP8mza aint no fucking way lmaoooo. Tell me youre joking. It should be the otherway round cause russian armour is brittle as fuck irl

[@triparadox.c]

@@ivancsontos7011 try shooting bvm or something. You'll notice it barely spall

[@Waterscape646]

This also remembers me the Su 25, some times you can just throw 3 missiles at it, set it on fire several times, it does not want to die, when pretty much all planes get killed if you strike them with a single missile (in addition of having huge number of flares). It's almost comedical.

[@Jake-dh9qk]

@uNnHkP8mza The extra 2-5mm of armor isn't just extra armor too, it's armor to protect against fragmentation so any fragmentation that gets launched form the initial penetration would be caught by the spall shields.

[@soviet_tank_lover]

The best part of this update was the BT-42

[@AWaveNotSoSynth]

Just because it appeared in a stupid anime, otherwise no one would have cared about it probably

[@soviet_tank_lover]

@@AWaveNotSoSynth clearly you don't own an air fryer

[@Angstbringer18B]

@@AWaveNotSoSynth I fucking hate anime but love the BT-42 so idk what you're talking about.

[@Pipino_il_Longo]

@@AWaveNotSoSynth wrong

[@AWaveNotSoSynth]

@@Angstbringer18B well guess what, you’re the only person who knows about it not because you see the clip from the anime on KZbin, congrats mate

[@13deadghosts]

And now imagine this thing with 4 additional Kornet ATGMs and ERA. Or as Gajin would say: "BR 10.0 maximum"

[@kleinerfarmer1]

nah they could get ammo rekt 9.0max take or leave.

[@kernel_inpage_error]

In a new top-tier soviet bundle (never seen before, a russian top-tier premium) for only $49.99. Gaijin definitely hired someone from Electronic Arts

[@Lynxium_]

2:20 when under roofs like this, you can use 3rd person artillery to see through it

[@popefrancis9565]

3rd person arty?

[@Lynxium_]

@@popefrancis9565 When in the artillery menu, press your middle mouse button

[@peterni2234]

@@Lynxium_ bro I completely forgot that was a thing!

[@popefrancis9565]

@@Lynxium_ bruh... I've been playing WT for 5 years and I didn't even know that... thanks for the tip my good man!

[@__--_-_-.__---___.__---__-]

that just does the same thing as zooming in in 3rd person

[@rwbster8253]

I love how they announced a tank that would be controversial over how broken it is a day before the update comes up.

[@a.b.3455]

Not even a full day...

[@silentascari2180]

Exactly why they did it though, no time to let the community pre-rage about it.

[@JSDFEnthusiast]

Man I can't even believe they added it. It isn't even fully developed irl. Also I'd love to see some Japan gameplay, Chi-Nu II or Type 74G.

[@Kledooo]

Don't forget guys that Otomatic can only carry 12 APFSDS while this thing yea....

[@Captain_Price539]

Gaijin: source trust us

[@einar8019]

I mean the reay rack for the apfsds is only 12 round but you could carry it in the non ready rack

[@Phos9]

For reference, this is a new SPAA gun that is in the process of being (hypothetically) adopted at 9.7

[@leonst.7471]

The Finnish ww2 stuff was fun(even if it's reskins) in this update also the crocodile looks neat.

[@yourcasualfinn2213]

Yeah, the only thing that annoyed me about this update was the fact that Finland didnt get its own tree, now i have to listen to swedish all day along

[@enkeksinimea4399]

@@yourcasualfinn2213 I think it's good that they are inside the Swedish tree - a Finnish tree on it's own woud simply not have enough tanks for lineups and it would be 100% copy and paste. What they really should have done is to give Finnish vehicles their own crew voices. I mean they did hire a Finnish voice actor for the update trailer - so why the hell no crew voices?

[@EasyAL_YT]

@@yourcasualfinn2213 Why does that annoy you? Would you rather have 2 separate tech trees so that neither have good lineups?

[@yourcasualfinn2213]

@@enkeksinimea4399 The only reason why i wanted Finland to have its own tree was the fact that i dont like listening to swedish all goddamn time

[@a.b.3455]

Bro the reskins are so lazy, they didn't even put the J in Pz.IV J

[@anotheralpharius2056]

unfortunatly even if the army did make aphe for the HSTVL it probably wouldnt be in game like its proxy rounds

[@KokotoHero-N3]

and auto tracking

[@LilKittyKat-C]

Whenever I'm in in a capable radar AA I always have the intrusive thoughts of shooting down my allies

[@Gary_The_Metro]

honestly when I get teamed up with the germans and some dude is going around in a DO-335B2 it takes every bit of my willpower not to delete him.

[@a.b.3455]

I always do as soon as the round ends.

[@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537]

When you have only 10 clips of ammo in your Bofors Lvkv and your team is throwing the match with their grabCAS behavior: "I WILL STRIKE THE SINNERS DOWN EVEN IF I AM TO DIE DOING IT, so saith the prophet Muhammed bin Anti-CAS" **TK Nasheed on blast** And after, assmad messages parted the clouds and the ground world was a little brighter. The report spam and negative SL is a price worth paying to be a man of Allah.

[@mandichtittysmithyofcameltoe]

I usually end up doing it by accident since they always seem to fly in front of were I’m radar locking JUST as I start firing

[@Sonlirain]

It's basically a Super Begleitpanzer that trades in the missiles for access to APDSFS and radar.

[@reinbeers5322]

The I-TOWs aren't even that good so I'd say its a fair trade.

[@albero319]

I love it when a new war thunder update comes out because I never know what new absolutely OP premium will be added and what new incredible bugs I will encounter

[@bruman182]

Russian mains trying to say the PUMA is better still makes me laugh

[@raketny_hvost]

sausage girls SUFFA again? uh oh pooor europeans

[@lucass.8627]

If it's soviet, it's OP... classic

[@Captain_Price539]

@@lucass.8627 it's always OP

[@warbound1]

And the HSTV-L

[@raketny_hvost]

@@lucass.8627 didn't know that soviets made MBT-70/Kyler/Stryker/dumBILL missiles/Wirbelwind/Begleitpanzer. oh those communists

[@bricklingtonlego]

Soon, they will be permanently adding April Fools vehicles.

[@MrSquigglies]

I'd be okay with the walkers and balloon tanks being added

[@bricklingtonlego]

@@MrSquigglies The walkers YES

[@mirrorslash028]

Pony CAS

[@TheTeehee11111]

Gainin is making april fools all year long

[@Pr.Wyvern]

Can't wait for the UCAB Wyvern to be in the game then.

[@nathansherman5684]

5 months later and it’s still 9.7 and the HSTV-L is 11.0

[@simisg2121]

But that means we get abrams sep v4 since it’s in trials, and screw they should add abrams X and also Bradley with tusk.. right?

[@EtherialofNowhere]

Gajob: pulls out T14 and Kurganetz instead.

[@barca227bc3]

Probably will. It will also be an op premium. So people will complain about p2w premiums but still rush to buy them

[@kulwiederbach9993]

Yesterday, my ammo was set on fire in my Leo2A5 and I burned for 5 minutes straight. And btw, this is just 0.4 BR higher then the Begleit, with tracking, APHE,APFSDS and a crew less turret.

[@Mitron43]

Skill issue, all you gotta do is aim and or touch it anywhere but the turret with HEAT and it’s dead, I kill them constantly with my centaros and STRF 9040s

[@Gary_The_Metro]

@@Mitron43 Ah "just touch it anywhere with HEAT" so what you're saying is, all you need to do is load a shell that you wouldn't normally use in it's BR range, wait for it to finally be done loading in which time he may well have moved out of your view already or killed you if he has seen you, and then shoot that at him. Great advice dude.

[@goliath3413]

@@Gary_The_Metro you sound like the type of player who uses only 1 type of shell. ALWAYS and never changing or thinking about tactics. Literally the game recomends you to have HE/HEAT for lightly armored targets.

[@Gary_The_Metro]

@@goliath3413 I know, and I always bring HE/HEAT for lightly armoured targets. But you don't always have HE/HEAT loaded, because here's a secret for ya buddy... you don't always run into lightly armoured targets.

[@mushokueien8148]

The fact this thing is better then HSTV-L in EVERYTHING except speed and aim angles(APFSDS penetration and spalling differences are negligible) and being 1 whole BR lover drives me insane as HSTV-L enjoyer

[@miuu7616]

But the HSTV-L should be way lower IMO. I know the HSTV-L is played by many players with high skill and this seem to make it look OP but me as a avarge player, I would suck with this even at 9.7. So jep it''s not fair TBH.

[@TheTeehee11111]

​@@miuu7616it needs to be buffed, not lowered in br

[@gatorscoops3861]

i guess their philosophy to premium vehicles is: “get ‘em while their op” and then just put them at a “proper” BR

[@norfangl3480]

It's a classic strategy. Make OP vehicle, everyone rushes to buy it. After several weeks when sales die down, put it's BR up to a respectable level. Few months or years later, announce you're going to remove it from the store so everyone rushes to buy it again. After it's gone, add a new OP premium and repeat.

[@SdKfz-gq8bh]

since this vehicle gets APHE, i want it back on the belgeit, it would make it a bit more bearable

[@clipixs447]

It already has APHE

[@Michael-IR]

@@clipixs447 it has only AP-T, SAP-T, HE-T or HE-VT

[@SdKfz-gq8bh]

@@clipixs447 i worded it wrong my bad

[@clipixs447]

@@SdKfz-gq8bh yeah I bought it myself I know it has APHE, oh i see what you meant nvm

[@paraweld9838]

The amount of m/95 this thing has eaten from my strvs is absolutely bonkers, it's completely fine at 11.0 and is still very very good, its a shock to see it at 9.7, but it'll be 10.0-10.7 by the next patch after sales are milked

[@alkhazarmegie2270]

It should be 19.3

[@YodamanOb704]

Should the Abrams that have the more advance targeting systems get a similar tracking capability? I mean it would be horrible for jets, but viable for long range helicopter kills. And I'm sure they could add that for a lot of later MBTs with similar capabilities?

[@TheKenji2221]

The Leclerc would annihilate everyone with its targeting system

[@Gary_The_Metro]

Realistically most modern variants of NATO tanks would have a similar kind of tracking system (I believe even one that works on ground targets so that you have a lead indicator on moving targets)

[@YodamanOb704]

@@Gary_The_Metro yeah I always thought they could of implemented that ground track system, like in game helicopter atgms lock on target and free aiming within the circle. Not great for close range, but on huge maps and moving targets, very lethal.

[@mattdovale]

They could maybe add a lead function that most if not all modern mbt's have, but then the game might get too boring because well, then the game starts playing itself and kills are way less satisfying.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Borth nato soviet tanks have had tracking systems for ground targets since the 70s and 80s.

[@emersonsteffler4149]

Honestly I really liked this update through and through. The only blemish it has is this vehicle. If this thing weren't introduced I feel the update would have been one of the first 100% positive ones in recent times.

[@albero319]

What’s so good about it? The only fun new vehicle that isn’t premium or top tier is the as42/47 (and it’s not really that fun). I also got more bugs then usual, for example sometimes I can’t stop repairs, which got me killed twice.

[@lior_theboom]

@@albero319 the fact that it wasn't good doesn't mean that it's bad.

[@albero319]

@@lior_theboom yeah, it does… first of all they added this thing, and as always they managed to squeeze in a couple of bugs

[@3lemmonz89]

@@albero319 You realize bugs will always appear right? There is no way you can fix all bugs, especially when the update that fixes bugs cause more bugs to appear.

[@OkamiiSenpai]

Nah we still have the dogshit smoke

[@Fentskii]

1:14 You know you're done for when Spookston owo's at you

[@nalcij]

Love how this thing isn’t even in production, imagine adding an Abrams X, Lynx, or KF51

[@Paronak]

well this comment did not age quite right

[@Salihli4545]

KF 51 right ​@@Paronak

[@MPdude237]

I heard someone mention that it is now possible to put together a high tier lineup comprising solely of GE vehicles are high tier for USSR. Do a USSR wallet warrior lineup: 9.7: T-72AV, BMP-2M, 2S38, Su-25K, Mi-24D 10.7: T-80UK, BMP-2M, 2S38, T-72M2 or AV, Ka-50

[@squidcraft3878]

At 2:48, the Apfsds went al the way through but still did no damage

[@natdenat2080]

I think the scummiest move with that one is that they moved the Tunguska to 11.0 now, meaning you basically have to buy this to get anything that can serve as a (non missile, since there is the Sturm) SPAA from 8.0 to 11.0.

[@OrdinaryViewer808]

Take a look at germany, it has always been that way for them lol

[@_Zekken]

Meanwhile Japan sitting here with no SPAA above 9.0 and the 9.0 one is so useless that the 8.0 one below it is more effective

[@ivancsontos7011]

Clearly youve not seen france at all, 1 aa from 4.0 to 8.3 and 1 from 8.3 to 10.0, the santal helps, but not by much

[@supersarge24]

We desperately need the Strela-10

[@joshjonson2368]

@@ivancsontos7011 France only missed the roland 2, not like they have a equivalent to the lav ad or sergeant York

[@JennTheDerp]

"oh I have a scout drone I can use" spawns it into a tree

The OTOMATIC has a larger cannon but it does less damage than this gun or the 40mm Bofors, fantastic

[@FlapJacks7]

Your cliff jumping skills are magnifeec!

[@schadenfreude1061]

2S38 is at same BR as MBT-70. A literal modern present time prototype is at the same BR as a late 60s vehicle. More than 50 years of technological gap and Gaijin thinks both are equally matched lol

[@lihisluikku]

And it gets a really good lineup you can just buy. You can use the TURMS premium, this premium, and even the BMP-2 squad vehicle. All three are really strong or even overpowered. If you have it, you can go to 10.0 if you have the T-72 moderna (I think, the one with an autocannon). And you can buy the Su-25 frogfoot for CAS. A complete 3-4 land vehicle lineup with CAS, all straight purchasable. And the 2S38 even works as SPAA, sort of. Either 9.7, or 10.0

[@OptiPopulus]

5:30 Spookston: *rushes into their spawn way head of anyone on his team, therefore dying Spookston: "Why is my team so bad??"

[@bwilk6372]

But it took years for US to get an armor package for the M1A2, I doubt we'll see any SEPs until late 2023, but we'll most definitely see more one trick ponies from the "second army of the world"

[@YourGodStalin]

The TUSK is a SEP...well they call it one, whether it actually has DU armor or not, they call it one.

[@Tyr1001]

it also (seems to) use shells that havent even been developed yet. this is, after all, the same zsu-57 gun we know and love if im not mistaken

[@conordwyer1553]

The new us tank is literally the m1a2 sep. maybe the SEPv3 will come in 2023

[@jtl-08]

@@YourGodStalin the SEP dosent have its 3rd gen DU inserts that the regular m1a2 has the sep also has an APS system and they should have given the SEP and regular m1a2 the m829a4 round. also, with the 2s38 they should give the HSTVL its .85 sec reload and its proxy fuse round along with the proper pen on its apfsds and its ground/air irst tracking

[@mikkel066h]

Second army in Ukraine maybe

[@nuclear3011]

1:41 - rare footage of a 2S38 being destroyed

[@surplus2720]

2S38 > APDSFS have the double pen then the puma > proximity fuses which actually help against CAS >smaller whitout a huge thing on his hull who help other to spot u everywhere PUMA >Prob fastest >more survability > useless IRCM help only to get u spotted everywhere > good thermals >useless timing Fuze rouds (maybe now whit the add radar can be more usable) > all the in real life technology used in the puma aren't in the game at all >irl puma have atgm >irl rheimental 30mm auto cannon have some impressive ammunitions types which obviously aren't in game

[@eb3yr]

May I suggest the T55E1? I've recently started using it to grind out US tanks and even though I've been uptiering it to 5.0 alongside the chaffee and P-47D-28 it's still absolutely brutal with its agility.

[@bigmcjones230]

PLEASE spread the word of a fix. Temp fix for all remote turret vehicles. Turrets can be damaged by simply penning it. The entire turret is a module. That meaning no more no damage turret shots to the puma, striker, or 2S38. 90mm and up should straight black the turret module. 20mm and what not would have to land multiple hits to break it much like everything else they hit. Meaning they would have to fall back and repair. This will be a HUGE plus to fighting these things. It needs to be addressed. There isn't just empty space in these turrets. Should they get hit with a main cannon shell it would harm the electronics and turret drives. It blows my mind that this isn't a feature.

[@dadistos4538]

Fast forward to the current day sale and 9.7+ is now unplayable due to cancer broken 2s38 spam. Shit game

[@tacticalpossum7090]

This video shows how its fast fire is a great benefit. The large majority of these kills were on weak sides that you can pen with all kinds of stuff.

[@TheEvilFoxy]

I swear that Spook has played enough WT to have developed some kind of x-ray vision. He's seeing people through walls and forests.

[@g.williams2047]

YT compressing everything doesn’t help

[@DaMatchstick]

1:23 'oh i have a scout drone' *rips a wing of instantly*

[@raizencore]

It took 3 years for the USA to get the M1A2 SEP which by the way was created in 1990 meaning it could have been in the game much sooner meanwhile, Russia gets this which I think got out of trials just recently?

[@Tzhz]

Prototype vehicle that has never seen the light of day that is still the most OP p2w tank in game a year later...

[@warzoner3384]

Of theres one way I could explain 2s38 it's a puma with biglight turret but still smaller end with better ammo

[@youwotmate7705]

Ah yes, another Russian vehicle that they can’t even afford to produce irl is op in game. Who coulda guessed???

[@raketny_hvost]

meanwhile sabres, supersabres, zeros, tigers, jpz 4-70, A-10, scumhurier:

[@simisg2121]

Yeep, even though in real life they suck lol

[@RuddleDuddle44]

@@raketny_hvost Tigers??? Hahahahaha

[@youwotmate7705]

@@simisg2121 At least if they survive the war they’re vehicles will have more combat training than every other major military power. Big if though lol

[@theliteralworst9416]

@@youwotmate7705 they're going to survive the war purely through nato intervention, last time a nation kicked russias teeth in the entirety of nato had to practically pay finland to leave moscow

[@JK-ej9xq]

Gaijin increased HVST-l's BR because it was "too op" in 9.7 with 275mm pen and 1.5 reload, they put it in 10.7 and now Gaijin drops a Russian version with 225 pen and 0.5 reload in 9.7 Gaijin doesn't longer hide the Russian bias... Uhmmm sorry the "Skill Issue"

[@explodingkat8526]

war thunder just cant let russian main down

[@PineCone227_]

Well im a russian main (aswell as US and Germany) and im let down by this thing being premium lol

[@zodiaccowboy2131]

The turret can move because also has a manual traverse. I can’t imagine some modern tank not being able to maneuver without having energy power

[@StarMedal]

Guy it’s been one year and it’s still at 10.0 while the puma and 9040 are also at 10.0 apparently gaijin thinks they all are equal :/

[@r6sm043]

The biggest issue I have with this tank is it goes through the front of basically all NATO tanks at its br range like a diska shooting a bear, alot of internal rupturing and quite a few overpens

[@silentetiam1744]

Almost half a year and it only got to 10.0, Gaijin never fails to amaze

[@Tamburahk]

Russian top tier premium broken or OP? NO WAY!!!!!

[@HoBoeBpeM9l]

Мне нравится, что иностранные игроки наконец-то смогли почувствовать на себе боль игры против легкой техники с неплохим орудием. Ну что, как вам стрелять без нанесения урона по ублюдку, наносящесу теле повреждения в любом положении за кратчайшее время?

[@CaptainSpacedOut]

Gaijin sees new russian tank not even in production. Adds damn near immediately. unclassified documents saying US shells have 650mm of pen for 105. Ignores it. HEll we don't even have TUSK yet every other nation has nothing but era and aps. Gaijin being gaijin. WT is a game I can only watch and not play since I enjoy keeping my sanity

[@jonathanallen3688]

We have TUSK I now. But it's just for RPGs and lower pen HEAT like the old recoilless rifles. TUSK II won't be added for a long time tho.

[@DustyBustty]

All of the shell pens are wrong

[@CaptainSpacedOut]

@@molashen771 then why does it say pen value for 0° then? There's no way a modern Delpeted uranium shell has less then 500mm of pen at 0° from 10m away. Even Russia says US 120 has atleast 750mm of KE pen. Meanwhile again gaining says lmao nahhh, you mean 500mm. Meanwhile a Russian shell goes through damn near everything at any range. Regardless of angle. Like majority of nations get shit on by gaijin except for Russia. Like how they had broken helicopter spawns for ka52 then when they release the AH64 is magically fixed.

[@teatanks6481]

So not only has thing not finished state trials, the proxy rounds are purely conceptual. On top of that there is basically no information on the autoloader or how it can fill ready racks. Truly gaijin aren't bias in the slightest

[@barca227bc3]

Best advice get il2 bos. It has tanks and it's not full of p2w bs

[@triparadox.c]

@@barca227bc3 it's a matter of bias

[@barca227bc3]

@@triparadox.c Just wait your nation will get a broken p2w thing soon as the sales on the current one dies down

[@triparadox.c]

@@barca227bc3 As a US main, I can hardly relate. The only OP premium vehicles aside from Russia that I can remember was Germany Puma. Most OP vehicles, both premium or not, are in Russia tech tree. There's a reason why their win rate at top tier is especially high.

[@barca227bc3]

@@triparadox.c They are there. You just don't see it that way. The whole premium model is give one side a broken op premium. Then when sales die down for that they always give the other side an even more broken premium to counter it. Rinse and repeat. I left this game years ago because of how aggressive the p2w has become. I play better games now.

[@TheTeehee11111]

Can you talk about how under equipped the new M1A2 SEP is compared to what it is irl? The missing depleted uranium on the lower plate (well known from many sources), the absence of additional armour on the turret side (about 100mm), and also arguably the absence of M829A3. Finally all abrams should have much more than 67mm of armor on the turret ring, with estimates being closer to 300 on the M1A2 SEP.

[@TheTeehee11111]

Also, the .50cals should get SLAP rounds wich would help tremendously against light vehicles. Moreover, you should be able to remove the TUSK package without losing smoke grenades! Yes, all smokes are gone if you remove it:/. I could go on, but this doesn't seem like just laziness from Gaijin, it looks deliberate because this info is not hard to find. It is basic logic that the M1HC and M1A2 sould not have the exact same hull armor as the basic M1.

[@diamonddollar1527]

i live for the memes spookston inserts at the start of the vid lmao

[@ethakis]

When USSR players say that Russian bias is a myth

[@commissarlorax3406]

Spookston: 'I'm not intentionally spawn-camping' Proceeds to spawn camp the next match I like the idea of the vehicle, being a unique little prototype but it is actually busted, I can see it going eventually up to 10.7 or 11.0

[@kernel_inpage_error]

Maybe a video on Conway? It is not obvious why such a powerful boomstick sits at 7.0 (I know why, but not all players understand the issue)

[@a.b.3455]

It's slow and reloads even slower. That's why it's at 7.0. I do love thay thing though

[@Tehbigt94]

Love your stuff Spooks, keep making these videos, even if I did want to yell "APHE!!!" through the screen at times.

[@jakub-k]

I love how in every single update Russia gets a vehicle that's actively ruining a BR bracket... Su-25, PT-76-57, Ka-50/52, BMP-2M, now 2S38 and to some extent MLD, BVM and TURMS 3 of those vehicles have THE SAME BR Edit: almost every single update, someone cried about that argument...

[@raketny_hvost]

do you love how hureers and dumb-10s did the same? ah they are simply not russian

[@alexey_chekhovich]

Those vehicles were added in like 15 different updates, not even close to each other. “Every single update” for sure. We have a new Abrams every single update - that’s a fact. At least for 3 of the last ones in a row.

[@jakub-k]

​@@raketny_hvostOk russia main, let's get something straight... Su25 is better than A-10 in almost every possible way. The survivabilty is insane while the A-10 feels like paper plane, the Frogfoot can eat so much 20mm HE it's hilarious. Better flight performance, Better A/G ordnance. I'll give you one thing though. I would much rather have 4x AIM-9Ls than 2x R-60s so that's one downside that I can think of. Hell in GRB the A-10 spawns going 300 km/h while other faster aircraft spawn almost at their top speed, and Mach 1.0 capable aircraft spawn at Mach 1 or right below. Mavericks are dogshit that either don't track correctly half the time or do little to no damage (track vehicles) even when hitting the target directly From what I know Kh-25/29 don't have that problem since you can guide them in apart from the fact that you need to be pointing the plane toward your target. Hureers? You mean Harriers? Pretty much the only broken one was GR.1 and the only thing going for it were the SRAAMS but it was moved to 10.0 and pretty much is food now... Besides this is not what I'm saying, obviously there are other broken vehicles: XP-50, Su-11, PUMA to name a few... I'm talking about the fact that when you think about which faction constantly gets the biggest number of OP vehicles that ruin the game the answer is going to be Russia every single time, pretty much no matter who you ask. Edit: Ahhh he deleted the comment, too bad... I was up for a discussion, but to give better context, this is what I'm answering to: *do you love how hureers and dumb-10s did the same? ah they are simply not russian*

[@jakub-k]

​@@alexey_chekhovich Okay, I might've exaggerated about the 'every single update' point. A new Abrams every single update? Yeah, sure... has any of these tanks broke the game... no they haven't they are literally copy paste of one another but with better thermals... God bless gaijin (/s) for kindly adding Abrams' with usable thermals. The AIM is just a tree M1A1 with Gen 2. thermals but with worse shell, the SEP is just M1A2 with Gen. 2 thermals and an additional .50 for the gunner (truly broken OP vehicle /s). Meanwhile the BVM has been a shell eating menace for how long now? A year? A year and a half?

[@alexey_chekhovich]

@@jakub-k like turms or bvm is anything else than a copy paste of existing tanks with better thermals and that’s all. A10 is a great plane as well, one of the best choice to grind the tree, easiest plane to make 3k+ points and 1st place during the events, and mavericks are way better armament for top tier than ones that su25 has. Who cares how much 20mm it can hold when 99% of the time you die from a missile or proximity shell? At least A10 can use his armament without actually going into proximity shell range. I’ve played both and A10 is way easier to use in mixed battles for sure. These complaints feel more like “Germany suffers” whining rather than an actual weighted critique.

[@fulcrumR6]

Dude at 3:08 he shot one round in the Type 62's front ammo stowage, and it detonated EVERYTHING from the ammo down, not HE or anything, just sabot. wtf

[@jussi8111]

the defenition of a cashgrab. every update they just keep adding more reasons to not play toptier

[@mosesracal6758]

Having an unarmored turret should mean that turret glancing hits should at least disable the turret.

[@MicahdoesIL2Stuff]

Gaijin: “the 2s38 is overpowered, we need to raise its br” *raises the br by 0.3*

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

Strela moment (also Gaijin then adds a 9.3 Shilka with ahistorical infinity-G turns off the rails)

[@jameel3361]

5:01 rare sight spookston playing a night battle

[@rozsia3464]

dont you wanna rethink the whole russian bias isnt in the game thing?

[@a.b.3455]

Honestly I feel like it's more like a premium bias. Otherwise things like the Turm III wouldn't exist.

[@rozsia3464]

@@a.b.3455 russia has shittons of premiums if you make it look like its the best nation to play, the players are more likely to buy GE to get those premiums or those packs with premiums you cant purchase for GE

[@Saffi____]

1:08 Driver: Another happy landing.

[@kurotoriaioi6204]

i shot once in the front of this tank with JM33 and it just went right to the engine, didn't even scratch the crew for some reason, and it's very consistent in doing so.

[@gigan6384]

Me: What is Spalling? Gaijin: Yes....

[@AdeptusAmogus]

Oh yea its absolutely fucking broken. Dude sat on the edge of Poland and got 16 kills in this thing earlier today. We only killed him because he went to one of the caps after running out of ammo. I think he ended the match with something like 28 kills total.

[@Phantom-dm9fz]

Not only that but the round is better than the puma and hstvl. Which is dumb considering this thing hasn’t even left trails

[@AskAndenes]

The 2S38 is so overrated. From my experience it has no survival the round do no damage and other medium tanks are basically jus as fast

[@SotGravarg]

"Not spawncamping just trying to drive through their spawn to A and they just don't give up and keep spawning, I don't have any other choice"

[@a.b.3455]

He's not lying, just trying to cope.

[@chocolat-kun8689]

So whats the point of turms now?

[@Frozander]

Proxy does not set off nords because nords do not have a proxy fuse + in WT shooting missiles is incredibly hard. Another example would be that Ka-50 vikhr triggering SAM missiles. They do trigger the missiles and the massive SAM missile explodes but does nothing to the Vikhr. In reality it should destroy the atgm as it proxys but it doesn't.

[@filmandfirearms]

When I saw the announcement, I said "This is just the begleitpanzer, but Russian." It seems I was only partially right. It has all the strongest elements of the begleit, mixed with most of the strongest aspects of the PUMA

[@white0devil0]

Sweden CV9040 at 10.0 talking to Gaijin: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@frantavomacka2882]

Most funny is - how excellent is russian thermal in the WT. IRL are unable to produce anything equal to older western thermals, but there are on the top... Potemkin's army for parades and for PC games.😆

[@chiefturion7134]

1:09 aaaand the crew was not harmed in the making of this film

[@Geniusinventor]

It has the same pen as the Tiger 2h with 0.5s reload and a super angel pen 😯 new technology is amazing not Gonna lie

[@Lxcx311]

And has a lower caliber :D It really is crazy ^^

[@Geniusinventor]

@@Lxcx311 😯

[@Bruh-fc7ik]

I love facing this in my M60A1 Rise, thank you gaijin for totally not being biased towards a certain cash cow nation with a full premium line up

[@willgander]

I mistook the "hello" at 1:15 as an "owo" and I hate it

[@Mac_Polen]

Does sound like OwO lol uwu

[@shadows4400]

Wait...It's not OWO? xD

[@chocolat-kun8689]

I thought he said "Oh well"

[@Mac_Polen]

@@shadows4400 owo

[@krakixel]

The fun fact about this thing is that it's supposedly a variant of the BMP3... So that SHOULD SAY SOMETHING.

[@SdKfz-gq8bh]

YOU GOT AUTO TRACKER, USE IT AGAINST PLANES i know you used it against the G91 but still, wouldve halped you against the others, unlike the PUMA this one has a use

[@Spookston]

I couldn't use it against the other plane because my sight was taken out, so IRST didn't work. There was a bug where you couldn't repair the sight.

[@jimmybob4761]

spookston: i have a scout drone to use Tree: no

[@Chambeah]

I bet that bussy be gripping

[@realseif4759]

Wtf

[@Ccaraaa]

What does this even mean and how does it relate wtf

[@ArielK-a]

Ayo 💀

[@simethigsomethingidfk]

This thing literally slings a shell basically equal to DM13 (the 105 dm13 apparently I need to say that lmao. Figured people could use their brains) fully automatic at a BR where it can face tanks that shoot DM13 once every 9 seconds. I have seen people compare it to the PUMA but it is literally on another plane of existence higher compared to the PUMA. And I just finished the absolutely painful PUMA stockgrind, now I cant play it because the entier enemy team gets to play a flat better version

[@meki___6881]

literally the experience the swedes had for a long time (excluding the bill)

[@miuu7616]

What the F do you even mean with DM13? The 120mm DM13 with close to 400mm pen? And are you a level 2 player which bought a Leo A1A1 with a noob crew or what do you mean with 9 seconds??? So much BS it makes no sense but yea it should not be compared to the PUMA but rather because they have so many different advantages. I mean does this thing have better armor? Can this thing make good use of it's unmanned turret with good gun depression and cannon hight? Can it fire all the darts without reloading? No because it's not a "flat better version" then the Puma. But it is a good AA and has more pen, it is different and you should play it different, more like a strf 9040C with more pen but worse spalling for some reason. Just don't play light tanks as long as the 2S38 spam is not over.

[@simethigsomethingidfk]

@@miuu7616 DM13 the 105mm stock german shell for all the leo 1s. it has 303mm of pen and 116mm of pem at 60 degrees. 3UBM22 has 225mm of pen and 130mm of pen at 60 degrees. 3UBM22 therefore being very comparable to DM13. Not the 120mm DM13 that should be extremely obvious to anyone with functional brain but the 105 DM13. And the Leo 1s have a stock 8.7 second reload. Sure its 6.7 aced but most people arent using fully aced crews at 8.7. As for the puma VS 2S38. The armor on the Puma USED to be pretty good. Now it only sometimes stops some auto cannons at its br, the armor is a none factor anymor and the S238 is actually more survivable since the crew is layed out horizontally meaning it is very difficult to kill two of them with one shot frontally. Really the only thing the puma does better is the Puma has better gun depression. But that doesnt really matter since the puma is extremely easy to ammo rack when hull down compared to the 2S38 that has a extremely small spot to hit to actually kill it when it is hull down. And yes the puma has blowout panels but for wome reason the ammo fire will almost always kill the gunner and like 50/50 also kill the commander before you can put it out... So dude maybe use your brain for 5 seconds before sperging out lmao

[@miuu7616]

@@simethigsomethingidfk 303mm pen from a 105mm gun apds is "very comparable" to 225mm pen from a 57mm gun apfsds? Mkay bro.

[@simethigsomethingidfk]

@@miuu7616 the 30 degree penetration is almost the same and the 60 degree is better on 3UBM22. literally no one is driving around with flat armor plates dude. 30-60 degree penetration is far more important then flat penetration for any tank at any br. Its like you have never played Warthunder before

[@danielbest5534]

Hey Spookston can you do a video on the M7 Medium tank, and also maybe your thoughts on if they should add it and if they did what BR it could go to?

[@severestar200]

Well... it is a Russian tank after all