THIS IS SO REALLY HELPFUL. Thank you ma'am, kinda find it so hard to understand this in modules, but this video makes it more easier💙
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@thanatos54204 жыл бұрын
I'm struggling to learn Oral Cam. through modules and here I am, now learning😂. Thank you for helping me understand the models of Communication Ma'am. ❤️
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
Im glad it has helped you. H happy learning.
@lesyeuxdemaze4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Ma'am! This really helped me a lot! The definitions written in our modules were not enough for me to understand so I needed to search for more detailed one. God blesses you po!
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
im glad it has helped you.thanks for watching
@franzinecometa59564 жыл бұрын
Thank you po ma'am, this is what we really need po especially at this moment💖 Godbless po!
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching. happy learning
@herbielamagon99694 жыл бұрын
Grade?
@franzinecometa59564 жыл бұрын
@@herbielamagon9969 Grade 11 po
@aguirrejanerie39834 жыл бұрын
(2) arigatnx po
@aguirrejanerie39834 жыл бұрын
@@franzinecometa5956 (same) skl
@splonklytv84143 жыл бұрын
This really helped me right now, we have a oral recitation later. And i'm ready!
@alvarezcharlottchenr.63574 жыл бұрын
Understanding the models of communication helps us to be more knowledgeable in communication. Even if there is no feedback it can be a communication.
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
great idea
@TobeSpecipic3 жыл бұрын
Your voice reduce my stress 🌿🍒 very calm
@reynallendaulong46663 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much maam, I finally understand what is the 3 models of communications. You're the best
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that my video has helped you. Thanks for watching.
@bianshii86964 жыл бұрын
I want to have a teacher like you
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
I wish all students are like you. You are eager to learn. Thanks for watching
@tiktokphilippines55462 ай бұрын
Very well said teacher, god blessed❤
@moseschisenga566711 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video its so helpful to us doing distance online learning
@andreschristiandave53353 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much ma'am. I learned a lot and the questions I am searching was answered by the report and presentation you perform.
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
Im glad it has helped you.Thanks for watching
@pearldomider93754 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information maam it really helps a lot since i cant fully understand my module
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@ricccyyyboyyy97814 жыл бұрын
Thank you ma'am, Good luck po sa paparating n apasukan ♥ God Bless You ma'am 😇
@perncaps13 жыл бұрын
Thank you, ma'am. GODBLESS!
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@onceinabluemoon33354 жыл бұрын
Thank you ma'am for this very helpful video!! Highly appreciated
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@lilyymeibe3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much po! This video is really helpful and it makes more easier to understand. Highly appreciated po!
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
Here's the video on the models of communication: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3nGo3mDZqZng7c
@imeldasandoy1302 Жыл бұрын
Salamat ma'am ❤
@agrippabyayesu3 жыл бұрын
Everything made simple, thanks so much.
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
thank you.
@markjadeamo83074 жыл бұрын
Thank you po Ma'am napaka laking tulong po nito sa aming pag aaral God bless you Ma'am❤️😇
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
great to hear from you. thanks for watching
@manguramsingla41124 жыл бұрын
very very helpful for newbies like me thanks mam . 🤩🤩❤
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching.
@justineleedelotavo65922 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much maam♥️♥️for making this video
@carolndhlovu2571 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me understand
@crystalsano47304 жыл бұрын
Another learnings 😍😍😍 Thank you ma'am
@marnilljoy40504 жыл бұрын
Thank You so much po ma’am naintindihan ko din sa wakas hehe😍👏
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@shennanelongsiab4954 жыл бұрын
Thanks you ma'am for the information ☺️😁 Now I've got some learnings about it God bless you! 🤗
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@Neko-chan-33 жыл бұрын
This video helps me a lot thank you ❤
@triciaaltiche28364 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Ma'am. This video is very helpful po😊❣
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@glazykhateyanez10484 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ma'am. It really help me. ❤️💖💖
@bealee68304 жыл бұрын
THA K U SO MUCH FOR THIS!!! NOW I UNDERSTAND THE LESSON MOREE
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@harukoakagi30392 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ma'am.
@tiyangvalera77314 жыл бұрын
Thank you teacher❣ godbless po
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@kylagalindez74913 жыл бұрын
omgg!!! sobrang naka tulong po sakin ito ma'am hindi ako naka pasok sa online class kanina now naintindihan kona pinag aralan nila kanina. thank you ma'am!!😘❤️
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
Im glad it has helped you. keep on learning.
@Wowsies_World4 жыл бұрын
Hi Miss, thank you!
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@maniegoprincecarl68244 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ma'am, this really help me a lot. Especially at this moment ❤️
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
im glad it has helped you.
@abbeylovyah54224 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ma'am! 😊 You help us alot! Thank you po. ❤
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@Hamnyoriginalz4 жыл бұрын
thank you maam for this. this helps my students understand more
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@voicemessageonly34984 жыл бұрын
Thank you po sa mga pointers 👍👍👍
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@rikijean43843 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful!!
@christinejadebandies30804 жыл бұрын
Thankyouuuu maam!! This really help me a lot♥️ God bless to u maam☺️
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that.tnx
@ralphlaurenestrada40984 жыл бұрын
Thank You Po Ma'am 😗 God bless 🙏💖
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@yamada-kun65794 жыл бұрын
New subscriber po ma'am. Thanks
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for subscribing. happy learning.
@arianneflores62204 жыл бұрын
thank you for the info. ma'am so helpful po‼️
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@jessamaegorobao78364 жыл бұрын
Thank you po buti nakita ko to hirap na kong intindihin module ko thank you po talaga
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
great to hear from you. thanks
@carloid4 жыл бұрын
Thank you po Ma'am! I think po it will help po to use contrasting colors especially to text and background po. More vids to come po! :D
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the suggestions. Yes, im still learning how to edit. thanks for watching
@carloid4 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish I really appreciate your efforts po to create videos to help us students. Thank you po ulit ma’am! 😄
@kimgasilo6514 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ma'am, it helps me a lot
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@dhanshrigiripunje75893 жыл бұрын
very much helpful thank u
@jennieevangelista73444 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH MA'AM❤✊
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@mdnacario4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Ms.
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome
@majoy1994 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ma'am this is so helpful❤
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@merhaynaemran18763 жыл бұрын
Thankyou maam, because of this video of yours i can now answer my modules. 🤗
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
All the best
@noelg.valenzuela47154 жыл бұрын
Good day I borrowed some of your ideas...I will use for my students. Hope ok lang po...salamatbpo
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
yes sir..thanks
@noelg.valenzuela47154 жыл бұрын
Thanks mam...God blesa
@arneljakehipngat22634 жыл бұрын
Thank you po ma'am❤️❤️
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching.
@jaycegoi79874 жыл бұрын
I should've watched this before answering my modules.
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
no problem. learning something and applying it in real life situation is more important than the usual answering of academic task. thanks for watching.
@jaycegoi79874 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish Ooohh... that's so wise to say Ma'am, I love the way you teach. Your students must be lucky to have you as their teacher.❤️
@millejanpearlmacay82934 жыл бұрын
awwww thank you so much miss 💖 it really helps me a lot! ☺️
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks
@bealee68304 жыл бұрын
this is so helpful po tysm!
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@aldrenbantog91622 жыл бұрын
permission to use mam, this video is very helpful for my students
@TeachinglearningEnglish2 жыл бұрын
sure you can use. thanks for watching
@joseahmichaela84554 жыл бұрын
mas na gets ko dito huhu:(( thankyou po maam
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@kaiiidz90824 жыл бұрын
Thank you po dito ma'am feel ko parang nasa face to face classroom lng ako
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@angieloucampugan6034 жыл бұрын
Thanks ma'am god bless
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
Thank you too
@arsalkhan78792 жыл бұрын
mam, I have a question. According to you, Shanon and weaver model is an example of a linear model but linear models do not have any feedback system however Shannon and weaver model has a feedback system
@TeachinglearningEnglish2 жыл бұрын
It all started with no feedback. Due to many criticism, experts say that the lastbstep is the feeback.yes, it is linear
@arsalkhan78792 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish thank you
@iant.breguera83593 жыл бұрын
Nalito ako sa transactional and interactive. Buti nalang nakita ko po ang video niyo. Salamat
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it has helped you. thanks for watching
@annegalfo2254 жыл бұрын
Perfect! Po teacher I wasn't able to attend my gmeet yesterday
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching.
@yypp24904 жыл бұрын
thank you po
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@ysabelamariejumarangofrasi31214 жыл бұрын
thankyou ma'am💜
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching. happy learning
@herbielamagon99694 жыл бұрын
Senior?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
@@herbielamagon9969 Yes. Grade-11 Senior High School .Thanks
@meonjijijijiji3 жыл бұрын
thank u po
@ashleybarana19194 жыл бұрын
thankyou po maam
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@omaroukar59884 жыл бұрын
Which company use Berlo' model ? SMCR
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
Berlo created SMCR
@omaroukar59884 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish yes i know i have a project on communication models within an organization, but i need to find a company that uses berlo model. or a real life example. (I found the commercials on TV but not sufficient for my project
@mrdreamboy11533 жыл бұрын
Ma'am among the models of communication what model do you think best suits our communication nowadays?
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
depends upon the situation but interactive is common between and among friends. free way of talking.
@mrdreamboy11533 жыл бұрын
But for you what do yo think it is?
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
there is no such thing as best...theyre models as they are useful in some situations. theyre models for business, casual chats and even for tele communication. so best for me? it depends on the situation.
@mrdreamboy11533 жыл бұрын
Okay thankyou ma'am
@mrdreamboy11533 жыл бұрын
I have 4 questions right here ma'am would you mind to answer? ❤️
@Shan-05343 жыл бұрын
Thank you ma'am, may I ask what Proponent/s mean in these three types of communication models?
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
these models are simply ur guide. They are useful in day to day transaction.
@Shan-05343 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish Hi again, ma'am. Do you mean if we're asking for the Proponent/s of each of these three communication models we could say: Linear-Shannon and Weaven model, Transactional-Frand Dance Model, and Interactive- Wilburm Schramm?
@Shan-05343 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for asking ma'am, I just don't really understand the modules...
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
yes, the one who discovered them
@Shan-05343 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish Ah, thank you so much ma'am, now I understand!☺
@sari-saritv35744 жыл бұрын
What elements are common to the three models?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
mostly the basic elements are present. but linear has no feedback
@brandonsandoval97683 жыл бұрын
Ma'am What is the best time to use linear model?
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
For telecommunications.. or any situationa where feedback is not at all important at the time of communication
@danicacastillo40623 жыл бұрын
Hello! Can I have some similarities of linear and interactive model! Thanks.
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
u may find the comments. thanks
@danicacastillo40623 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish Thank you, ma'am!
@smileflowersodyssey37424 жыл бұрын
Hello ma'am, may I ask if there's another name of transactional model?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
other authors mentioned circular model.
@michellefayetalvo16144 жыл бұрын
Ma'am can i ask? Can you explain what is the effect of occasion to the listeners? Thank you for response ma'am
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
in what situation? we are always concerned on the feedback from d listeners whether positive or negative.
@gandaka45024 жыл бұрын
I'm still confuse on Shannon-Weaver and Schramm's Model ma'am please help me :((
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
shannon is one way , no feedback schramms is two way and theres feedback, it is interactive . They are quite opposite
@gandaka45024 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish thank you so much po
@jjoshwy4 жыл бұрын
Shannon isn't a linear according to my module.. I'm confused right now .
@jjoshwy4 жыл бұрын
Linear stated that there is no feedback but in your video there is a feedback in shannon ..huwatt!!!!!! ???nakakalito po talaga
@jjoshwy4 жыл бұрын
I disliked this unless there is a clarification
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
@@jjoshwy where did i say that linear has feedback? what part in the video? When we say linear, of course one way process. And one of the models that is known under linear is shannon weaver. Technically, shannon was used for technical communication. There are situations in shannon weaver that there is no feedback .example: listening to radio, watching tv. We dont need postiive feeback from listeners. However, in a situation in telephone conversation, there is a little feedback on it but it is not as interactive as other.models.Cos of criticisms of "no feeback" issue, shannon weaver has been widely used in multiple different areas of human communication. Thats part of its development
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
@@jjoshwy thanks for watching. Confusion is a test of researching more.keep goin
@vanessapatag5804 жыл бұрын
Can I ask po What are the two other names of linear model? What is the other name of transactional model?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
to be honest, I do not know if there are other official names. What I think of linear, is associated to shannon-weaver or one-way linear or unidirectional model . For transactional, perhaps circular model of communication.
@arnaldoacar30703 жыл бұрын
Thank you maam! But what model po is the best to use and why po?? Thank You!
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
depends upon the situation. they are all useful in so many ways
@arnaldoacar30703 жыл бұрын
what is the best model po maam to use for students like us?
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
there is no such thing as best..but interactive model is common in classroom setting
@stiffanygarcia23764 жыл бұрын
What is the similarities between transmission model and transactional model po??
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
transmission linear, transac non linear
@awaisabbasi67424 жыл бұрын
In which of the three contexts of in-person communication do you have the strongest skills? Which area(s) do you want to improve, and what skills would you like to develop? How will you improve? What strategy would you use?--Upload
@awaisabbasi67424 жыл бұрын
What are the contexts of in-person communication
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
great questions for reflections. thanks for watching
@markjude63693 жыл бұрын
Ma'am belch model is same poba sa linear model?
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
no...belch has feedback. mainly used in business setting.
@jadevaldez97814 жыл бұрын
Ma'am I'm still confuse po sa mga situations, what will be the model if I made a call to my father about my recognition but during our call the teenagers passed by and were laughing loudly?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
interàctive
@annemaddison25844 жыл бұрын
Hi ma'am! your video makes the topic easy to understand. Can I use your video po in our discussion? Thank you po.
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the compliment. yes mam you can use.
@jimenabithao17113 жыл бұрын
Idol!
@edceljohnindustan65574 жыл бұрын
Na gets ko na po. Daghang Salamat ma'am.Tanong ko lang ma'am, ano o sino po ba ang ilalagay sa "proponents"?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
what do u mean? in what situation
@edceljohnindustan65574 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish matrix po kasi... d-define daw po ang proponents sa Linear, transaction and interactive.Maraming salamat po ulit ma'am. :))
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
shanon and and schramm.
@edceljohnindustan65574 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish thank you pi. Sa linear po ma'am?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
proponent for.linear is shannon...what i understood of proponent is who discovered it..hope i got what u meant
@billiemainesy29934 жыл бұрын
Ma'am, tanong ko lang po Kung tama tong scenario sa linear model ( more specifically sa Shannon-Weaver Model of communication ) "Brady himself made a call to his assistant, Caroline, saying that he wants to see her in 15 minutes. During his call, random inaudible noise appeared ( transference/ transmission error ) and his assistant received nothing in phrase but turmoiled noise. Again, owing to what happened, Caroline tried to call him about what he just said.
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thats shannon model
@billiemainesy29934 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish oh crap! Thanks a bunch! 💚
@billiemainesy29934 жыл бұрын
Lastly po ma'am, if you wouldn't mind me asking another one is ano po yung ibig sabihin ng phrase na " there is no concept of barrier " sa linear model?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
@@billiemainesy2993 because it is linear..there is no concept of feedback. thats one of the criticisms of linear model
@billiemainesy29934 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish ah okay po. Salamat! 💚
@angelicabautista22764 жыл бұрын
Hi ma'am may I ask po, what sets communication models different from each other po ba?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
they may have similarities..usually it is more on interaction process that matters
@marianvaldez80244 жыл бұрын
Ma'am yung signal po ba sa schramm's model na nabanggit is the same sa message? Just to clarify Lang po. Thank you po.
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
message which is encoded will then be transmitted in form of a signal......so not the same as signal
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
signal- how it (message)will be carried.we can intrpet this that signal is the language
@marianvaldez80244 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish thank you ma'am for that clear explanation ❤️
@ratnamanikesharwani68604 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@angelacinco88413 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH PO MA'AM! (◔‿◔)
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@famadicoleighnanicole864 жыл бұрын
Hi ma'am can I ask you how to create a own model of communication? Thank youuu
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
it depends upon how u create your situation. just based it from the sample models and use elements.
@desireecruz10144 жыл бұрын
Ma'am? What if ang situation is like this. I am chatting my closest friend via messenger so nagpapalit palit kami ng convo, is it consider po ba as transactional model or interactive model? I am confuse lang po about this situation. Thankyou po in advance
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
for me interactive. since it is mainly used for nee media such as internet. You may be chatting - receiving feedback simultaneously but how long will ur friend reply is out of ur control.there is still delayed feedback.
@desireecruz10144 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish thankyou po Ma'am
@romejanejoyrivac14614 жыл бұрын
Your video is very informative ma'am! But, I'm curious if what are the similarities of Linear Model and Transactional Model.
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
linear is one way no feedback...transactional two way--- u may find the pros and cons there
@romejanejoyrivac14614 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglishthank you so much. How about the similarities po of Linear and Interactive?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
they have elements of communication .linear has no feedback, interactive has...linear and transcational are quite opposites..
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
one way vs two-way process..if u watch the video, u can find the features of each.
@romejanejoyrivac14614 жыл бұрын
Thank you again Ma'am!
@laelli18242 жыл бұрын
hi ma'am can i ask a question po of how EACH model of communication helps in improving communication?
@TeachinglearningEnglish2 жыл бұрын
It adds awareness. Each model has pros and cons. Other proponents have integrated other models to make it more communicative.
@seunghoyeah80783 жыл бұрын
hello maam,can i ask po regarding sa elements of communication po? pag may isang missing po na element,can you still consider it as communication po?
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
It is still a communication but it will create misunderstanding
@seunghoyeah80783 жыл бұрын
@@TeachinglearningEnglish thank you maam❤
@hee83612 жыл бұрын
Hi ma'am. Can you give more examples in Transactional Model? hehehs. I will use it Po Kasi in my reporting tom. Thankyouu po!
@TeachinglearningEnglish2 жыл бұрын
sorry for the late reply. thanks for watching
@amiellagon19953 жыл бұрын
Salamat po Miss. 😍😍 Pero paano po itong mga model na ito ng communication nakakatulong saatin para maging good communicator??
@TeachinglearningEnglish3 жыл бұрын
these are useful in different communication situations- fron day to day to business transaction. These serve as your guide.
@leodyabad56094 жыл бұрын
Hi ma'am, sorry to disturb you but I just want to ask a question po. What is the difference between Interactive and Transactional model po?
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
both are two way process , interactive but interactive model is not simultaneous opposite to trans.
@TeachinglearningEnglish4 жыл бұрын
if u watch the pros and cons, ull see the difference