The 30 Caliber Magnum Showdown: Which is the best 30 Caliber Magnum?

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Reloading Weatherby

Reloading Weatherby

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In this video I compare six 30 Caliber Magnums. I look at the stats and at the end of the video declare a winner. Thanks for watching!
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@leonardmorgan359
@leonardmorgan359 2 жыл бұрын
Actually. I think Winchester made the 300 win mag to directly compete with the 7mm rem mag. The year the 7mag came out it pretty much killed off the 264 win mag. Winchester had to respond so they made the 300 win mag. Both companies were marketing their cartridges as a do it all caliber that’s better than the 30-06
@elpmettsol
@elpmettsol 3 жыл бұрын
Good presentation young man. I think it really comes down to personal preference, as they are (to me,) simply a variation of a theme to each other. Thus, it’s more of a case of you can go more right with one over another than going wrong, based upon the specific needs. For me, the 300 RUM is hard to beat! Very flexible in terms of cost, bullet/ brass selection, reloading data (you can load it down to 30/06 specs,) and variety of rifle companies that chamber for it. But again, you really can’t go wrong with any of them.
@MrJtin69
@MrJtin69 2 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show just how efficent the 300 wsm is not as a fast but half as much powder as 30-378 lol starting to love the wsm alot
@pointerdogman2814
@pointerdogman2814 2 жыл бұрын
In 2019, I took a 1750 lb cape eland bull in S.Africa with a 180 g barnes in a 300 wby mag. One shot dropped it.
@samsgreen1
@samsgreen1 2 жыл бұрын
300 RUM was my only rifle for about 10 years in MT and AK, it's a hammer. I loved it but I should have picked a win mag instead but the allure of speed got me. But I shot everything from prairie dogs to moose with it, no regrets.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
300 RUM is awesome!
@johnbodman4504
@johnbodman4504 2 жыл бұрын
I am amazed that he did not include the 300 norma which is the second fastest after the weatherby 300-378. The 300 norma is efficient as it has a shorter fatter case. The 308 norma is also efficient haveing less powder than the 300 win and almost the same speed. The best barrel life goes to the 308 norma as it uses the least powder. The best long range competition round is the 300 norma with the 300 weatherby second. The 300-378 weatherby would be the best but I discounted it because of the extremely short barrel life, also the advantage of extra speed is offset by the extra recoil. I discounted the remington 300 rum for the same reason, too much powder, and low barrel life as well as more recoil than necessary because the extra powder gives very little extra speed. The 300 win is very easy to find cases or ammunition which is a very big advantage, even though it is not the best round.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I know.... the 300 Norma is impressive! Thanks for commenting!
@rich7331
@rich7331 Жыл бұрын
It's 30-378, and unless your doing a lot of match shooting barrel life is not an issue.
@gerry6.8
@gerry6.8 3 жыл бұрын
My choice for a 300 would be the 300 WSM, it is more efficient than any of the others, has longer barrel life, easy to find ammo and very accurate. Tops out at around 3000 fps or so with 180's. Of the ones you mentioned here the good old 300 Bee or the new 300 PRC would be my choice.
@kirkmartin2223
@kirkmartin2223 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm gonna shoot 180gr bullets I'm gonna do it in a 7mm.
@davidorpwood8433
@davidorpwood8433 3 жыл бұрын
the 7mmWSM IS better than the 300WSM . but you have to reload . I reload 300 RUM
@grumpygnome9316
@grumpygnome9316 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@rudolphferdinand3634
@rudolphferdinand3634 2 жыл бұрын
I started with the 300 Weatherby Remington 700 24” barrel; a very nice hunting rifle, but if you want more velocity than the 26” barrel in Weatherby MKV.
@rosalindstewart7013
@rosalindstewart7013 3 ай бұрын
I’m a WSM fan I like them all, the 7wsm is awesome but I love my 300 wsm cheers Yogi 🤙✌️🇦🇺
@georgecruz6226
@georgecruz6226 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thank you! Great vid!🤙
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jeanpierremenard502
@jeanpierremenard502 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby so still mist 300 norma and 300 dakota
@rosalindstewart7013
@rosalindstewart7013 3 ай бұрын
Probably could have put the 300WSM in there as well, great vib mate cheers Yogi 🤙✌️🇦🇺
@kevi152
@kevi152 3 жыл бұрын
For hunting it would have to be the 300 H&H magnum. As accurate as the 300 win and possibly more accurate. More efficient and will never let you down even if the case splits ( conical shape). Yes expensive and hence only for loaders today.
@falba1492
@falba1492 2 жыл бұрын
You’re right on the money! The 300 H&H was the original 300 magnum, and no one has bettered it efficiency or accuracy. Not the mention the smothers loading round, bar-non. I reload, and after taking all the 300’s into consideration, I went with the 300 H&H. The major problem was finding a good quality rifle. I ended up with a Steyr and an X-Bolt.
@MillerJW100
@MillerJW100 2 жыл бұрын
300 prc?
@ArchieRLib
@ArchieRLib 2 жыл бұрын
The 30-378 WM was actually invented in 1959 as an army contract caliber and rifle for sniper applications. It held the 30 cal 1000 yard accuracy record for three decades. 1996 was the year Weatherby made it available to the public in the Mark V.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ArchieRLib
@ArchieRLib 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby Any friend of Weatherby is a friend of mine. Lol.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArchieRLib Love Weatherby products!
@themanfromnothing
@themanfromnothing 2 жыл бұрын
My 30-378 may be hard to find, it may be expensive, it may be less efficient BUT... It will out perform any other 30 I have ever shot bar none.
@bustabass9025
@bustabass9025 2 жыл бұрын
First time I shot my AccuBrake'd AccuMark .30-378 Wby, I thought my ears were going to fall off. I've since learned to appreciate the value of earplugs, used in conjunction with noise canceling ear muffs. Having said that, I love the gun and the cartridge. I also love the smell of H1000 in the morning. A perfect combination for transforming just about anything from field to freezer.
@jasonbubley9427
@jasonbubley9427 3 жыл бұрын
I cant disagree with anything you shared with this video and normally I have alot of difference with most people's opinions on calibers cause I'm a weatherby guy. I have a 300 weatherby the thing is great. Its parked in the cabinet for now its probably near the end of its barrel life but if I need to bring one of my rifles to Africa it will be the one. Great video you should share more reloading videos on calibers it's great content.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
300 Weatherby is my favorite as well. But you really can't go wrong with any of them
@mohammadmehdi8711
@mohammadmehdi8711 3 жыл бұрын
Not bad video but you forget the father of them all THE 300 H&H it's one of the best and efficient magnum Calibre out there
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
True! Thanks for watching!
@tyronekim3506
@tyronekim3506 3 жыл бұрын
OK. But, who makes the rifle that is currently in production?
@mohammadmehdi8711
@mohammadmehdi8711 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyronekim3506 unfortunately there is no manufacturer makes any unless you have one made for you special order or old rifles chambord in the 300 h&h or if you lucky you find one used if you find a good used one go for it Best regards Romeo
@tyronekim3506
@tyronekim3506 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohammadmehdi8711 I agree. Be safe and in good health.
@1984WillS
@1984WillS 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sending the 225 ELD-M at 3047fps out of my 300 Win Mag with no pressure signs. I could go faster, but found a good node there and felt as if that was plenty fast. I see no benefit in going to a PRC. If I didn't already own the Win Mag, I'd probably give the PRC a try.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
That's impressive. Thanks for sharing the data.
@redrock425
@redrock425 3 жыл бұрын
I looked at most of these but considering all factors I think .300PRC will be the way to go. It's a modern design like the 6.5 Creedmoor, long neck and room for long high BC bullets, not belted, doesn't require a .338 sized action. What's not to like? Also shouldn't be too expensive to reload. It's top of my list now for my next rifle.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
If I made the video today I would probably pick the 300 PRC. The only reason I didn't and am still a little hesitant is availability of ammo and reloading supplies for the PRC. I could see this becoming the new 300 Win mag.
@WilliamStihl
@WilliamStihl 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite is the 300wby mag but I like all for them almost got a 308 Norma mag for cheap long time ago any way thanks for sharing all of you're videos with us !!!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@pointerdogman2814
@pointerdogman2814 3 жыл бұрын
300 win is easier to reload. The 300 wby can be very sensitive on the double radius shoulder. They crush easily when seating and crimping bullet. Then it won't chamber. 300 wby brass is also pricey. I still love my 300 wby even though I have both. I usually neck size only if shooting in the same rifle. I only full length size when they get tight in the chamber. This increases the life of the brass.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I accidentally crushed one of my 300 WBY brass. Thanks for watching!
@hombre1965
@hombre1965 Ай бұрын
Rifle price should reflect higher than base models to truly compare to Weatherby
@pwessie
@pwessie 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Winchester Model 70 in 300 Wby mag. I think it was made sometime in the 1970's. Was my grandad's.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah my dad got a Win model 70 in 300 Weatherby in the 90's
@stephenland9361
@stephenland9361 3 жыл бұрын
Of course the .300 Win Mag is the best. It's the one I have. If another was the best, I would have bought it.
@leroyjones769
@leroyjones769 3 жыл бұрын
LOL .. I like that
@falba1492
@falba1492 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely nothing against Weatherby, but the 300 Win Mag and the 308 Norma, were made to compete with the 300 H&H. Not the 300 Weatherby. The idea was to create a less expensive rifle with similar ballistics, in a standard action. The 300 Win came closest to 300 H&H speeds, but with a way less efficient case. It’s take 3 to 5 grains more powder to achieve the same velocities. The 300 WSM has a very similar powder charge, but doesn’t feed as nicely as a 300 H&H. IMO, the 300 Weatherby has too much recoil and muzzle blast for a lowly 30 cal. At that point, I would just step up to a 338 Win Mag, which is what I did. If you’re hunting under 500 yards, there is no need for any of the “ultra mags”. It’s preferable to step up in caliber, or just stick to a standard 300 magnum or even a 30-06. If you’re going to hunt under 350 yards, a 35 Whelen or a 9.3 x 62 with a 250 or 286 grain load respectively, serves you better than a 300 Weatherby. I do love the 257 and 270 Weatherby, they make sense to me. I also love the quality of the Weatherby Mark V’s. Very underrated in my opinion. Any how, just my 2¢ worth. Btw, the only rifle I’m terrified of is the 460 Wby. Thanks for the channel and your coverage of all things Weatherby.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got my history wrong about the 300 Win mag. Thanks for commenting and watching!
@mrthebeaudry
@mrthebeaudry 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but what about 300 Norma?
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Norma is great, sorry I didn't include it.
@nolanstewart8106
@nolanstewart8106 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, too bad the 300WSM was not included. Very similar ballistics to the 300WM but much more efficient and much longer barrel life. Plus being a short action, you can use lighter rifle.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to do a separate video on the 300 WSM. Thanks for watching!
@gunsandcars3648
@gunsandcars3648 3 жыл бұрын
he didnt say calibers for lady shooters that cant handle a long action.
@nolanstewart8106
@nolanstewart8106 3 жыл бұрын
@@gunsandcars3648 yes, carrying 18 pound, recoil absorbing long action rifles all the way from the handicapped parking spot to the bench at the range makes you a real man. Those back country hunters with light efficient rifles are pussies.
@gunsandcars3648
@gunsandcars3648 3 жыл бұрын
@@nolanstewart8106 your words....
@gunsandcars3648
@gunsandcars3648 3 жыл бұрын
@@nolanstewart8106 yes shorting the action a little bit makes all the difference, its good to hear now you can actually carry a rifle for more than 5 minutes. imagine all the fools with 270 and 30-06 , really most any load that actually is worth using.
@fritzd2116
@fritzd2116 2 жыл бұрын
In my own experience, the 300 Win and the 300 Roy are pretty close, though I like the longer neck on the Roy for reloading?
@Jeff_Seely
@Jeff_Seely Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with your choice of winner. Everyone I know who owns one loves everything about it, but every one of these choices also has an Achilles heel, and case head separation is this one's. They aren't too happy with that aspect but still love it overall. I've shot a handful of rounds and I was surprised at the lower recoil than what I anticipated. Still, my bucket list is to build a 30 Nosler. You can seat a long sleek bullet out within its Saami spec freebore and shoot VLD's with little trouble.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
I've shot a 30 Nosler and it's incredibly accurate.
@WillyK51
@WillyK51 Жыл бұрын
But you can't seat out longer bullets in a standard long action with the 30 Nosler(Designed for long action OAL 3.34") out of the magazine, unless you hand feed them. My project is a 300-6.5-300 Wby donor rifle rebarreled to 300 WM or 30 Nosler. Then we can seat out longer bullets. Used $500 or much over depending on the make and $800 new (Vanguard) + $600 -800 Barrel . Quite affordable. But I might lean to a 7 MM, Have my old 1917 US Enfield in 35 Whelen. A 7 RM or 28 Nosler more to my needs👍
@TrapperScottyAlaskan
@TrapperScottyAlaskan 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend 300 wing mag for my clients while I'm packing 338win mag, scoped. Not your normal guide gun in alaska. I know all ballistics. clients prep shoot both guns. 3/4 of our kills were. With 338, other 1/4 were all long sheep shots. Nice to.have both. I supply ALL ammo. I agree with 300 win mag is a winner and when you only get 1 gun. I pack 300 WSM as my personal 1 gun. People say its equal to 300 win mag but in your comparison 300 win mag still wins. Trapper Scotty
@TrapperScottyAlaskan
@TrapperScottyAlaskan 2 жыл бұрын
@The Trashman I was talking hunting. For fishing, nothing beats a 870 12 gauge buckshot and sluggish combo. Bears usually back off before getting close enough. We're talking feet away. You gotta pack it with confidence, that's more effective than the shotgun itself. Trapper scotty. Trashman, are you from Glenn Allen Alaska ?
@philipfreeman72
@philipfreeman72 2 жыл бұрын
I had a friend in AK bought a 338 378 Weatherby I had lots of powders but none slow enough.
@walleyewilly8085
@walleyewilly8085 2 жыл бұрын
The 300 H&H is the best. Most efficient, Most accurate, And less recoil. Its been around since the 20s. I have all the 300s except the 30-378. Try an old H&H you'll see what i mean. Nice video.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to try one someday. Thanks for watching!
@micahtroyer4181
@micahtroyer4181 2 жыл бұрын
Still hunting with my Remington 721 in 300H&H factory loads sux, need handloads to see it's full potential
@gunnarwoodhouse9625
@gunnarwoodhouse9625 2 жыл бұрын
My dad has 30-378 in a accumark from Weatherby and I have a all 300s cartridges from the 300 rum to the 300 h&h 300 Weatherby everything and honestly out of them all I feel like my 30 nosler hits the hardest cause it's basically a revamp of the 300 ultra mag
@deathjunky
@deathjunky 2 жыл бұрын
optimum accuracy for the 300 Winchester magnum is about 1800 rounds if you don't hotrod the rifle too much. hunting accuracy 1-2" MOA is up to 4000 rounds.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of rounds
@deathjunky
@deathjunky 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby I know people with 50 year old 300 win mags who shoot hundreds of rounds a year who still have original barrels on there rifle.
@Shaggy_Rogers0001
@Shaggy_Rogers0001 3 жыл бұрын
The best 30 cal is 30-378 Weatherby Magnum in my opinion.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great opinion to have!
@Shaggy_Rogers0001
@Shaggy_Rogers0001 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby the reason for this is because I just love high velocity ammunition!
@gradoisx2348
@gradoisx2348 3 жыл бұрын
Well your not wrong..... it is on paper the swinging dick when i comes to .30 cal rounds and i love mine.
@vernonlarson7016
@vernonlarson7016 2 жыл бұрын
Ruger use to offer the weatherby cartridge in their #1 single shot line
@adamelam6385
@adamelam6385 3 жыл бұрын
If you don’t reload the .300 win mag is by far and away the best choice. I have absolutely no use for it to whitetail hunt. My 7mm magnum is overkill for this area but I need one magnum.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Yep..... There's a reason the Win mag is the most popular. 7mm Rem mag is a great cartridge!
@adamelam6385
@adamelam6385 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby would you say it’s more popular than the 300 win mag?
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamelam6385 I think the 300 Win mag is a little more popular, but it's close. Americans love their 30 calibers.
@adamelam6385
@adamelam6385 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby America is definitely a 30 caliber nation. If any caliber can break the 30 caliber wall it’s the 7mm magnum. In my area where a black bear is the biggest game the 7 mag I’ve s definitely more common over the 300 wm but you still see some 300’s.
@blueridgeboy7721
@blueridgeboy7721 3 жыл бұрын
Was this information based off of factory ammunition or by hand loads, the 300 rum and 30 378 are definitely a round you have to handload for to get better efficiency.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Hand loads, you really need 28 inch or longer barrels to get there full potential. Thanks for watching!
@mikepreciado7807
@mikepreciado7807 3 жыл бұрын
300 wm. Good choice! I've been running one for 30+ years. Odd.... Man dad bought it for me. An reloading dies. You do yur job. It will do its!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
It is a good one. Thanks for watching!
@bustabass9025
@bustabass9025 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone can choose any caliber and anoint it "The Best". If one or the other is the best for you, have at it. I happen to love the .300 Weatherby Magnum. I have a .300 Win Mag also, and it's a favorite as well. But then, I also love my .30/378 Wby and my. 340 Wby. Whatever floats your brass, is the best...for you. Just as mine is the best for me. Thank God for choices.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, and I agree
@Z287899
@Z287899 3 жыл бұрын
Fastest 30 in readily available ammunition, yes. Lazzeroni is "possibly" faster, yet not something you will find in your local stores. Some wildcats like 300 kong, 30-8mm, and a few others will pass the weatherby in speed, but custom rifles and dies are needed and absolutely no factory ammo. Then you move into sabot type rounds that will lauch a 30 at ridiculous speeds. Not much practically in most of these other than bragging rights though.
@pointerdogman2814
@pointerdogman2814 2 жыл бұрын
JFYI... the 300 wby was developed from the 300 H&H, not the 375 H&H.
@megan6228
@megan6228 2 жыл бұрын
And Roy wanted to beat the 300 H&H not the 30-06
@douglasw9163
@douglasw9163 3 жыл бұрын
Good presentation and very informational but the 300 Weatherby can be gotten in other guns not just ones made by Weatherby. I happen to have a Dakota 76 in 300 Weatherby. Granted Dakota is not your over the counter weapon.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Yes I was misinformed, you can get the 300 WBY from Remington and other custom makers.
@eidtnaci
@eidtnaci 3 жыл бұрын
I run a 300 AAC and finding ammo is pretty easy I go to my local gun store I’m paying a lil under a dollar per bullet 150 grain I picked up 20 bullets for like $18 bucks before taxes last week
@TheStone2531
@TheStone2531 3 жыл бұрын
These are all .30 magnums. The blackout is far from magnum performance.
@philipfreeman72
@philipfreeman72 2 жыл бұрын
I was baffled by Weatherby's jump to the throat , but I did the same with a Swede 6.5 With 90 gr nosler for deer .
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's pretty crazy
@kevinfidler8074
@kevinfidler8074 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about 300 win mag, and I've read plenty of articles from professional hunters who favor the 300 win mag for the same reasons. Another reason the 300 win mag is more available then any of 30 cal magnums is its sized to fit in a standard length 30.06 type action, making it more affordable then the magnum length rifle action rounds.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kevinfidler8074
@kevinfidler8074 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby good video! I just made a video about 300 win mag yesterday, so it was sort of on my mind still. Without a muzzle brake not many shooters want to go beyond 300 win mag, that's why 308 was standardized as a sniper rifle for so long.
@jamespmullin21753
@jamespmullin21753 Жыл бұрын
Can you look into why no one is stocking or selling 338 Winmag ammo? And if you can find some, they are $100 a box. Before covid, I could buy 338 Winmag ammo for about $35-40 a box.
@iamnitrox
@iamnitrox 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to comment my initial thoughts. Will respond once vid is done. My guess: 300 RUM is the winner. Highest performance that rivals the 300 Norma mag without having to go to an XL action/bolt face. Will chk back.
@iamnitrox
@iamnitrox 3 жыл бұрын
By the numbers, looks like the 300 PRC ought to be the choice for all-around use.
@sav300
@sav300 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamnitrox agreed. Especially for a factory loaded ammo. Ballistics are superior. Efficiency is excellent. Case design is definitely among the best of the selection.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good one. But it didn't win because you can't find ammo for it right now. Non pandemic..... It would probably win. Maybe in a few years it would be the best all around 30 caliber magnum
@scottcoffman7086
@scottcoffman7086 3 жыл бұрын
don't forget the 300 WSM it is as fast as the 300 Win Mag and not a barrel burner just as accurate less powder and less felt recoil.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't forgotten about that great cartridge. I actually have done a few videos on it. Thanks for watching!
@randyschaff8939
@randyschaff8939 3 жыл бұрын
.308 Norma🇨🇦🤠
@JohnDoe-du6yi
@JohnDoe-du6yi 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot 2000k Yards with my 300rum. It’s a little more than you described. I send 215’s at 3250 FPS. That’s what you list a light 180 at. These big overbore 30s need heavy bullets. They would actually work best with heavier twist rates like 1/9 or a 1/8.5 so the could stabilize 230’s. I don’t waist my time with 180s, but I know I could get them to at least 3400fps. The problem with that is, a 180 isn’t designed to move that fast. Pushing them over 3000fps is past their construction and they will most likely frag on impact and not penetrate deep into large elk or moose sized game. I will admit though, it is not a cheap or an efficient cartridge.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
You're correct, the RUM is meant for heavier bullets. And yes you can get faster velocities than what the books say. I've noticed that my 300 WBY goes 100 FPS faster than the book says. So do you have a faster twist rate for the bigger bullets? You really have to reload to get the full potential of the RUM. Factory ammo is slow for the RUM. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@JohnDoe-du6yi
@JohnDoe-du6yi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby I have a 1/10 twist, and it stabilizes the 215 great. But I want a higher BC bullet so I just got some Hornady 225gr ELD match bullets to try out. They have a .777BC and the box says 1/10 twist right on it. So I’m excited to try them out. If they stabilize, they will be insane with a .777bc at approximately 3150fps. This would equate to 5000lbs muzzle energy, and with a 100 yard zero only 4 mills of drop at 1k. That smokes most everything out there, even the 338 lapua can’t compete with that. A 338 shooting a bullet with those BC’s are much slower, like 2600-2800 because they are 300gr.
@bw6538
@bw6538 2 жыл бұрын
I shoot the 300 mag 150 for deer and 165 barns for everything else cutting edge makes some good bullets so you can shoot lighter ones like the 135s you say anything about WSM I here they are really efficient in a short action and shorter barrel thanks for the show
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, I have a few videos on the WSM. Thanks for watching
@bw6538
@bw6538 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby I’ll have to look that up I’m looking at building a 338 wsm with a 22 inch barrel for hunting in timber
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
@@bw6538 Sounds like a fun rifle
@ashmerch2558
@ashmerch2558 3 жыл бұрын
Id like to see a 300 Weatherby or a 30-378 Weatherby with a 1:8.5 or 1:8 barrel. With the capacity of the 378 Weatherby case, I wonder with a specialty 30"-32" barrel, how much more one could get out of it.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
I would bet even with a 28" barrel those speeds would increase. I think you could at least get another 100 FPS out of the 30-378 WBY with a longer barrel.
@hawkeye4497
@hawkeye4497 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother. Weatherby definitely needs to tighten the twist rates on all their chamberings. Long heavy bullets are here to stay.
@14goldmedals
@14goldmedals 3 жыл бұрын
Ash Merch in 26" barrels the 300RUM and 30-378 Wby run at the same velocities, I know I loaded both and crony'd them. With the 28" barrel Weatherby usually installs now plus a muzzle brake (over 30" total to deal with) the 30-378 can get closer to using all that powder. In. 26" barrel the big 30-378 spots tons of powder still burning in the air when it should be smoke. My 26" Rem700 LSS goes between 3350-3400 fps over my MagnetoSpeed with. 180 grain Accubond. A death-ray on the hunts.
@samueladams1775
@samueladams1775 Жыл бұрын
@ReloadingWeatherby agreed. While both the 300 RUM and 30-378 would both benefit from the longer barrel, the Weatherby would benefit the most I think. I have compared my 300 RUM to a friend's Weatherby and his rifle is a flame thrower compared to my rifle. I suspect it could even put to good use a 30 inch barrel, but that not only adds more weight, but also the rifle starts getting a bit awkward at that length. One thing I like about the 300 over the 300 Win.Mag. is I can load full power, or load for a Win.Mag, or 30-06 power. That way I am not destroying the deer and antelope, but can up the power for elk and moose using the A-frame and Nosler partition bullets. And yes both the 300 RUM and 30-378 are barrel burners. Even with the Krieger barrel I don't expect more than 1200 rounds before accuracy is affected and the Weatherby is even worse lol. Maybe 1000 rounds, but more like 900 depending on your loads.
@donavonrobbins1908
@donavonrobbins1908 2 жыл бұрын
There would not be a 300 WM, if not for the 308 Norma Mag.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. I plan to make a video on the 308 Norma mag. Thanks for watching
@donavonrobbins1908
@donavonrobbins1908 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby as I'm starting to refocus on my 308NM, I look forward to that video.
@mattrosenboom4810
@mattrosenboom4810 3 жыл бұрын
30-06 still does the job. Don't need to shoot a mile to kill a deer
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does. I have done a few 30-06 videos
@adamkadir3803
@adamkadir3803 2 жыл бұрын
I feel it really depends on what your core goal is. For military usage? Either the 300PRC or the Win Mag. For 30cal ELR? The RUM. For hunting? The H&H. They all perform similarly, but the WM/PRC is a little cheaper and lighter than the RUM/NORMA/WBY. The RUM squeezes the most juice out of the loading for the velocities, and is a little easier to get parts for. Go 300Norma if you want a larger platform for marginal gains. The H&H feeds like water over silk, is reliable, is lower pressure, and has pinache. İf you hunt for stories, a storied, old cartridge feels appropriate.
@user-po9hy9th7w
@user-po9hy9th7w Ай бұрын
... should have included the 300 H&H Mag
@only2genders980
@only2genders980 Жыл бұрын
That's the LAST one I'd buy. Is subsonic at 1400 yards.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
What is your choice
@only2genders980
@only2genders980 Жыл бұрын
I have a 300 weatherby but might build a 300 prc. Have shot the 30-378 with no break and it's a brute.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
@@only2genders980 I love my 300 Weatherby
@robertodebeers2551
@robertodebeers2551 2 жыл бұрын
I'll stay with the 300 Holland and Holland Magnum.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with that!
@mickesundell2330
@mickesundell2330 2 жыл бұрын
300 Weatherby, classic and beautiful!!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@Notreallyme377
@Notreallyme377 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I think the ‘winner’ is the 300 PRC. It was designed to shoot high BC bullets that are better at longer distances. Just my opinion
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
300 PRC is great! You really can't go wrong with any of them. Thank you for watching!
@1984WillS
@1984WillS 3 жыл бұрын
You can shoot high BC bullets out of any of them though....
@whiteyfisk9769
@whiteyfisk9769 Жыл бұрын
We're talking about a difference of an inch at 1000 yards...how often do you shoot at 1000yards? Or are you just parroting market hype??
@joemetzger5105
@joemetzger5105 2 жыл бұрын
All these comments and I'm just sitting here wondering where the 7.82 Lazzeroni Warbird stands in this discussion. I know it's another large, very overbore cartridge but we get extremely good performance out of the one we have. Definitely better than the 300 wby, but not sure how it would stand up to the 30-378.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know a lot about the 7.82 Lazzeroni warbird.... but I've heard it's more powerful than a 30-378
@joemetzger5105
@joemetzger5105 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby I believe it is, it would be cool to see it in one of your future videos!
@pointerdogman2814
@pointerdogman2814 2 жыл бұрын
257 wby is tough on barrels. But with new stainless steel I don't know how much damage you do. The 257 wby is tough on brass. Four reloads will usually split the necks.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I bet it is tough on barrels and brass
@realmetis8002
@realmetis8002 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video also thanks again i think i will sub.....tup just did lol
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate it! If you have a favorite cartridge you want me to do a video on let me know!
@realmetis8002
@realmetis8002 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby ok thanks 😊
@gunsandcars3648
@gunsandcars3648 3 жыл бұрын
I shoot the 300 win magnum to be cool, I shoot the 300 weatherby magnum to destroy a charging dinosaur
@hawkeye4497
@hawkeye4497 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@boomerrumor8252
@boomerrumor8252 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah nobody knows when that T-Rex might make a comeback
@2003DTM
@2003DTM 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure where you were looking at 30 Nosler for $1800. I didn't pay anything close to $1800 for my 30 Nosler. I paid about 1/2 of that.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction. What rifle did you get?
@2003DTM
@2003DTM 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby the Browning x-bolt hells canyon speed from a local sporting goods store.
@taylorjackson7908
@taylorjackson7908 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the 300 RUM is the king of going fast economically. It’s tough to beat for the cost.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting and watching. I really like the RUM
@juniorimac
@juniorimac 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but you are wrong. You can get a 300 weatherby in a Remington 700. Because I have one
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
When did you get it? Good to know!
@juniorimac
@juniorimac 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby Remington 700 300 Wby Mag (1989 Classic, 1990 - 2000 standard offering, 2002 - Present Custom Shop only). That’s the history. I have only had mine for about a month. Bought it from a friend. You can find them online
@springer-ij9nm
@springer-ij9nm 3 жыл бұрын
Winchester also chambered Weatherby cartridges
@barbarapiercy4312
@barbarapiercy4312 10 ай бұрын
You should do more research. You are dead wrong about the 300 Weatherby. I believe (and I could be wrong) that it is the only Weatherby cartridge that IS chambered in other manufacturers rifles. Just take a look at any of the online gun auctions and you’ll see plenty of non-Weatherby rifles chambered for the 300 Weatherby. Other than that, I agree with your conclusions except I’m still getting a 300 Weatherby just because……………………it’s a WEATHERBY!!!!!!!!!😊
@jg7857
@jg7857 Жыл бұрын
If you’re hunting within the 48 states of our country, the 300 win mag is sufficient for anything. You can go to the more powerful 300 mags, but they are not really needed, at least not here in the mainland United States. Why pay more for bullets, and get more recoil when a 300 win mag can do it all? I have a 300 win mag with an Accu brake that gives me 300 win magnum power with the recoil of a 243. Can’t beat that combination.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
Yep! 300 Win mag is all you need!
@kentowens2179
@kentowens2179 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I agree. LOL
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
@bodeeengle3480
@bodeeengle3480 6 ай бұрын
Winchester also produced wby cartridges for short time
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 6 ай бұрын
My Dad has a Model 70 in 300 Weatherby
@Shaggy_Rogers0001
@Shaggy_Rogers0001 Жыл бұрын
If I could only go with one 30 cal round, it would probably be the good ol' 30-06!👍
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
It's a good one
@davidortiz173
@davidortiz173 3 жыл бұрын
Great research in the great video!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Storm_Bringer
@Storm_Bringer 2 ай бұрын
I have a Weatherby Mark V in .300 Weatherby mag. It's not available on the Vanguard so unless that's changed recently you should do more research
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 ай бұрын
Not to be rude... but you are definitely wrong. I own a Vanguard in 300 Weatherby and a Vanguard in 257 Weatherby. Go check out the Weatherby website. Almost every Vanguard they make is chambered in 300 Weatherby
@blaserlongrange7616
@blaserlongrange7616 Жыл бұрын
300blaser and 300prc have probably the best design of the brass and 300win has the worst
@ralphlivingston762
@ralphlivingston762 3 жыл бұрын
And the winner is...................the 300 H&H. This shouldn't come as a surprise. Re-loaded, it is equal to the 300 Winchester Magnum, and none of the cartridges you have mentioned feeds as smoothly from the magazine to the chamber. Follow-up shots are so fast you are not aware of working the bolt. It's a little harder to find a rifle so chambered but they are out there and well worth looking for. The 300 H&H historically has been a winner on the 1000 yard range and since these guys shoot a lot, barrel life must also be pretty good.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Haha fair enough. It has to be good since Weatherby, Winchester and others copied it. Thanks for watching
@ralphlivingston762
@ralphlivingston762 3 жыл бұрын
I shot my first elk with the 300 H&H in a model 70. It was a 400 yard across the canyon shot. This was before range finders became available and I misjudged the range in that clear mountain air, shooting just under the animal. I don't even remember working the bolt. The second shot was instantly there without my losing any concentration. I then held higher and blew a 165 grain Sierra Game King bullet through both lungs. This is a great cartridge.
@laszlovandor4770
@laszlovandor4770 3 жыл бұрын
Do you actually shoot these to 1000 m or out to 2000 m ???
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
No I haven't. Do you shoot long range?
@laszlovandor4770
@laszlovandor4770 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I do. Your choice of #1, the 300 WM is good to 1000 meters, but not past that with "heavy for caliber" bullets. MarkandSamafterWork Channel here on KZbin would explain the best for you.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
@@laszlovandor4770 I watch Markandsam. What would your choice be past 1000 m?
@laszlovandor4770
@laszlovandor4770 3 жыл бұрын
Next purchase of mine will be Christensen Arms MPR 300 PRC, 1:8, because of cost effectiveness is better than the 300 RUM for average Joe in the economic ladder. If I'm rich and it must be 308 cal, I go 300RUM.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
@@laszlovandor4770 300 PRC is a great option. If I did this video again it would be hard to not pick the 300 PRC. I think it's just hard to find ammo for the gun right now.
@MrJtin69
@MrJtin69 3 жыл бұрын
300 norma will be getting a lot of ammo since us military ordered 2k rifles for their active snipers
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
I did a more recent video on the 300 Norma mag. It's a pretty cool cartridge, very efficient with plenty of power.
@MrJtin69
@MrJtin69 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby my go to for long range hunting but I will say for small game I still use 220 swift #longlivethe220swift
@kirkmartin2223
@kirkmartin2223 3 жыл бұрын
The "king" of the factory available 30cal magnums is the 30-378wby. But its highly inefficient, overbore, barrell burner, requires a lapua size action and factory ammo is 5-7$ a round. Its like using a top fuel funny car to get groceries 🤣. The 300wm is the cartridge by which all other 30cal magnums are compared to. The 300wby is an improvement over the 300wm but still carries that useless f..king belt!! The 300nos hobbled itself by sticking to a 3.4" coal. And rifles chambered in it aint cheap....neither is the ammo. The 300norma is a beast....but still requires a lapua sized action and factory ammo aint cheap. The 300prc is my choice but is hamstrung by having only 2 factory ammo choices currently.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with any of them. 300 PRC is very efficient.
@thebushbunker
@thebushbunker 2 жыл бұрын
The weatherby is better fount the 300 for 60 and 30378 for 70 in Soldotna alaska
@steves.6519
@steves.6519 2 жыл бұрын
Leaving off the the 300 Norma invalidates this as an actual list. The only thing close to it on this list is the RUM.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I did an updated video with the 300 Norma. I also did a 300 Norma vs 300 RUM
@racrx728
@racrx728 2 жыл бұрын
300 win mag is the winner with a 180gr bullet, because that's what it was designed to shoot. Most of the others are designed to shoot 210 to 230grain bullets efficiently so kind of apples to pears comparison.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@johnparks52
@johnparks52 2 жыл бұрын
i have a remington 700 chambered in a 300 weatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I misspoke, thanks for watching!
@joemoore7276
@joemoore7276 2 жыл бұрын
And where is a big improvement on the old 300 H&H? If you need more than it get a 338 or 375
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply, yes you have a point. Out to 400 yards there isn't a big difference between the old 300 H&H and a 300 Win mag or Weatherby.
@user-ku3is1on8n
@user-ku3is1on8n Ай бұрын
I load my bullets.loading by the loading book I'm getting 3300 FPS out of a 180 GR bullet.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Ай бұрын
What cartridge?
@jaybailleaux630
@jaybailleaux630 2 жыл бұрын
Plain old 300 Weatherby about as good as it gets ballisticly.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@rl56111
@rl56111 Жыл бұрын
300PRC
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
Good pick
@jeffersonsmith6109
@jeffersonsmith6109 2 жыл бұрын
I think if one were to take the "pepsi challenge" with most of these cartridges they would not know the difference. Animals killed with them won't be able to tell you which one did it. That's a fact. Which one do you prefer? That is the best one for you.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Yep.... you're right. Can't go wrong with any of them
@ChiquitaSpeaks
@ChiquitaSpeaks Жыл бұрын
In this comparison based off your parameters I think the 300 PRC should’ve won
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
It lost because of lack of ammo options
@ChiquitaSpeaks
@ChiquitaSpeaks Жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby I figured but I think an honorary mention that seperates performance from viability would’ve been a solid choice
@Coachp5793
@Coachp5793 3 жыл бұрын
.300 WSM?
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
I will have to do a separate video on the 300 WSM. Thanks for watching!
@MarktheSharkC
@MarktheSharkC 2 жыл бұрын
300 Weatherby!
@david9668
@david9668 6 ай бұрын
I’ll stick with my 308 Norma mag
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 6 ай бұрын
Good choice!
@Hollywood41642
@Hollywood41642 3 жыл бұрын
Im pushing a 55gr sabot out of my 300 Rum over 5100fps..
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's awesome! Love the 300 RUM
@samueladams1775
@samueladams1775 Жыл бұрын
That is hyper velocity speed. You use monometal bullets? I have some old ( Vietnam era) 30-06 sabot rounds with 5.56 bullets but I was told I would have jacket separation as soon as the bullet left the barrel because of friction at that speed.
@JohnDoe-ud2cc
@JohnDoe-ud2cc 2 жыл бұрын
With my 300 rum I shoot 212gr bullet with .777bc at 3250 FPS.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive!
@vernonlarson7016
@vernonlarson7016 2 жыл бұрын
The 30 sherman out does the 300 prc. A true magnum is based on the belted case. Which the 300 prc is not a magum. A 416 Rigby is not considered a magnum along with the Rum rifles. The Rum rifles are off the 404 Jefferies
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting
@kurtbaker1563
@kurtbaker1563 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 300 Wby in a remington 700
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@jimlyski2748
@jimlyski2748 8 ай бұрын
I have a a factory Remington 700 300 weatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 8 ай бұрын
Nice. When did you get it?
@joelpalsson7711
@joelpalsson7711 2 жыл бұрын
308 Norma magnum 🙂👍
@LHCOG
@LHCOG 3 жыл бұрын
300 norma???
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 3 жыл бұрын
I will have to do a video on it
@MarktheSharkC
@MarktheSharkC 2 жыл бұрын
Not true. Remington has rifles in 300 Weatherby along with Blaser,Sako and Sauer!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
New ones? I know they all used to make 300 Weatherby, my dad had a model 70 in 300 Weatherby
@skigdividerx4991
@skigdividerx4991 2 жыл бұрын
They made 700 Remingtons in 300 Weatherby. One year.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was wrong. Thanks for watching!
@skigdividerx4991
@skigdividerx4991 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby A buddy of mine has one is the only reason I knew that. My neighbor owned the Ford dealership in our little town. He went up to Kodiak island and shot a Kodiak with a real .300 Weatherby in 1974. Great video!
@jacobschmidt1264
@jacobschmidt1264 Жыл бұрын
Why isn’t the 300 Norma ok this list?
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby Жыл бұрын
I know.... I've done later videos on the 300 Norma
@cameronhoward99
@cameronhoward99 2 жыл бұрын
300WSM for the win!
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good one. I did a separate video on the 300 WSM
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