The $4000 Camera Kit - What Cameras and Lenses Would We Choose?

We often get asked, "What camera and lens would you buy on a particular budget?" In this video, we tell you what camera and lenses we would buy with our own money on a budget of $4000, a range that covers many full-frame cameras.
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[@MrGourd]

I can imagine Chris' money-is-no-object pick of being the Hubble space telescope. I hear it takes pretty decent low light photos.

[@r3vo811]

But can it do puddleshots? I think not 😂

[@niccollsvideo]

I do like telephoto photography more and more.

[@myocean3228]

$400 billion kit lens- space telescope ?

[@guttazilla]

But the Eye-AF on the Hubble is not the best actually

[@ClementZhouk]

Why buy the Hubble when you can buy the James-Webb with 100x more light gathering capability?… oh right, it’s a better value when buying used old gear…

[@Votjko]

I f***in’ love your intros. Seriously, even if im not interested in a specific review I click to watch the intro!

[@networm64]

Yeah maybe that intro can explain their Sony option consideration! A sony fanboy stolen their stuff so Chris even didn't consider any Sony option!

[@DustyCR]

Ditto!

[@NeXMaX]

You guys missed the opportunity to make the skit even more convincing by filming the entire thing back on the now-legendary Pentax K-01

[@WildBikerBill]

Or the just released Pentax K3 III. Jordan can't claim he's not familiar with them anymore! Feel The Joy, Jordan! 🤣

[@adityaarayan2340]

@@WildBikerBill I dont know how Pentax is still existing in 2021 and why they are not going into mirrorless even in 2021

[@HappyHubris]

"They stole everything. Oh no!" "No, they left the K-01. OH NO!"

[@HappyHubris]

@@adityaarayan2340 They'd rather use their existing technology to be a specialized fish in a small pond than attempt to slug it out with industry heavyweights.

[@lt1caprice57l]

@@adityaarayan2340 because of people like me who aren't interested in mirrorless lol. (no seriously, back in ~2000 I was worried that the big switchover to digital was going to kill off real cameras i.e. SLRs... I was relieved when a whole bunch of DSLRs hit the market in the following years. Seems my fears were justified, just 20 years off. *sigh*)

[@jacobcarandang8618]

Personally I go with one generation older camera bodies to splurge on lenses. My $3000 on eBay got me a Fuji xt3, 10-24, 23f2, 56 f1.2 and 55-200.

[@ryankwan1934]

Agreed. I would spend ~$1,000 on the body and throw the rest at lenses.

[@Harvester88]

Do you guys think an A7ii is still a good buy or an A7Rii ?

[@TTWGD3]

@@Harvester88 good cameras but the only thing is you are going to run into issues with newer accessories possibly not working well with those cameras because of the older tech

[@garypardyphotography]

@@Harvester88 having used both, the autofocus, image quality and 4K recording puts the A7Rii miles ahead of the A7ii. The Rii feels a touch more sluggish when writing images to the card, the buffer fills faster, but in every other way it's a much, much better camera.

[@madtoffelpremium8324]

Don't forget that adapting DSLR lenses is still a great option when you are on a tight budget and lots of these lenses are selling for really low prices on the used market right now. I would get the Z5 or R6 with the adapter and could probably even fit the whole trinity of used (third party) lenses into the budget.

[@MeowjinBoo]

im actually in the market for a tamron g2 70-200 for my z6. I did find one on my local fb marketplace/craigslist, but I need to get a tapin console to make it work with the z6 which pushes the price up. I'm tempted to spend 800CAD more and just buy a used FL/vr3 nikon.

[@exploresouthwest]

That's actually exactly how I did my "under $4000" kit switching to a new mount system with the Z6. There are still a few gaps in Nikon's native Z mount lenses that are missing or are a bit out of my price range, but I can just get a tried and true F mount lens if I want something to tide me over as new native lenses are created. And the used market for those F mount lenses is huge; from good 2-3 year old lenses on used sites and auctions; to finding decades old manual lenses at garage sales and estate sales for under $50. I got a 50mm 1.4 for $20; it's fun to play with and the smallest lens I got, I can fit it in a pants pocket.

[@frankluo230]

@@exploresouthwest Nikon used resources are plentiful and to some extent, more versatile than Canon EF. But for most people wanting modern features and reliable autofocus, EF platform has more great glasses.

[@MrMatthewEx]

perhaps instead of an infinite budget maybe do a full pro two body kit you would use for pro photogrpahy work like events, sports or weddings.

[@jasonmelancon2959]

second that...

[@Vinterloft]

I think it would have been funnier if you both showed up with X-T4s xD

[@1zymn1]

I love my XT-4 for being hybrid, it would make sense if you need both.

[@natesenft5376]

i’m kinda dumb, but isn’t that way under 4k?

[@Vinterloft]

@@natesenft5376 Not with a 50mm F1 or the 8-16mm, or the 16-80mm plus 70-300 plus Samyang 12mm, they have to buy optics too.

[@yigalkatyusha]

definitly hahahaa

[@1Patient]

I thought the XT4 was going to win... at least they didn't pick the Panasonic GH5 II 😅🤣😅🤣😂🤣😅😂

[@Titanpharao]

Two years ago, I buyed a full MFT System for my world trip. Also around 4000$ now. Panasonic G9 2200€ PanaLeica 8-18mm F2.8-4 1000€ PanaLeica 12-60mm F2.8-4 Kit Panasonic 100-300mm F4-5.6 500€ Panasonic 20mm F1.7 250€

[@BigSleep89]

Much more versatile lens setup.

[@bradleyeid9260]

About same time, I bought my MFT world travel kit. Your choices look good, but it's too much gear for the type of traveling we do. We do a lot of walking with our luggage. Thinking about traveling with two lens kit: 25mm F1.8 primary and Zuiko 12-40mm F2.8 PRO or Leica 8-18mm for bad weather days.

[@Titanpharao]

@@bradleyeid9260 I walked every day over 20km and also up the Table mountain. It's perfect match inside my backpack. If you don't want chase birds no need for the tele. Save 500g, but better have them miss a shot.

[@bradleyeid9260]

@@Titanpharao Great that you can carry all that gear on extended trips. I love the Lumix 100-300 F4.0-5.6. It's great for birding and wildlife. However it probably won't travel overseas with me. My travel day pack includes water bottles, usb power packs, rain gear, snacks, etc, which limits the amount of photo gear. Also some of the tours on my wish list limit total baggage to 10KG. I wish more reviewers would factor size into the discussion.

[@IvoTichelaar]

The kitzooms are good compared to the more expensive MFT lenses at smaller apertures, so for daylight shooting and portability, I choose two or three lightweight kitzooms to cover a wide range. I usually stop down for landscape stuff anyway. The Lumix 14-140mm is the core of my vacation setup, the Lumix 100-300mm for telezoom and the Olympus 9-18mm for wide. But I can be happy and enjoy myself with just the 14-140mm. If all my gear werd stolen, I'd probably get MFT again and look for a deal with a body and a 14-140mm lens together. And build on that again.

[@runcmd1419]

On TCS right now the Z5 + 24-70 F4 kit is CAD$2100, 50 1.8 S is 700, 85 1.8 S is 950, and either the 24 1.8 S or the 35 1.8 S (and a bag of chips). If you want more reach, 24-200, 35, 85. Or Z5 + 24-70 f4 + 50 1.2 S for 4900. :)

[@salmanul_fares]

This is so much better than the R6 kit

[@jml7916]

But I need something wide.

[@user-vy8jn9mc6g]

And for those who think that Z50 F1.2 is too heavy or too long, too bulky, I'd recommend to google for it's flickr gallery. What a lens...

[@runcmd1419]

@@salmanul_fares granted the r6 with the three budget primes is another good starting point.

[@jml7916]

4 reasons a Sony A7ii is better than a Z5 or Canon RP - Native AF Sigma, Tamron, Samyang/Rokinon, and Viltrox lenses plus a collection of other brands in manual focus plus adapters for Canon EF, Sony A and Nikon F. The Z5 is likely a better camera (not sure the RP is better) but the lenses are steep until they share the mount specs. Even the Sony 50mm f/1.8 is half the price. The Z5 and Z50 are definitely the right move from Nikon but they need to share the mount with 3rd parties before Canon does to win back market share. If Canon gets 3rd party support before Nikon then Nikon is sunk. They will become the next Pentax.

[@gordon3988]

Loved this...now how about mid range...say $2,500. Seriously, such a great blend of entertainment and helpful information and reviews! Be safe and be well!

[@Paul-iq6pw]

Yes, yes and YES! Exactly what I was thinking. My budget is usually around that mark. The other videos were great fun, but $1,000 is too low and $4,000 too high. A $2,500 video would really hit the sweet spot for me.

[@jacobcarandang8618]

$2500-3000 on eBay with one generation older camera can get you a dream setup for sure. As much as all brand new is tempting you’d be paying twice as much for a marginally better kit. More lenses is way more fun to have than a slightly newer body.

[@MirrorlessFrame]

So how many fake accounts does DP review have?

[@nirajgandhi5921]

The Z5 is a great starting point: full frame, 2 card slots, and IBIS. Can also get the cheaper f/4 zooms and a prime to fill out the kit

[@SuperSuperka]

Fujifilm TX-1 (Xpan) + 45mm lens - that is so beautiful

[@danielschmaderer]

Literally just purchased an X-T4, 16-55 f2.8, and a 70-300. Jumped ship from Nikon DSLRs that I used to own.

[@recklesscoding]

Enjoy! The 16-55mm f/2.8 is the best 'f/2.8 standard zoom lens' I have ever tried. It simply produces contrasty sharp images.

[@jml7916]

Used Sony A7rii or A7riii, Tamron 28-200, Tamron 17-28 f/2.8 and a used fast prime like a 50mm 1.4 or 85mm 1.8. For way under budget get a used A7ii, Tamron 28-200, Samyang 18mm f/2.8 and used 50mm 1.8. My personal budget kit is a Sony A99ii, Sigma EX 17-35 f/2.8-4, Sony 28-75 f/2.8, Sony 70-300 G, Sony 50mm f/1.4 and a Tamron 90mm f/2.8 macro. I also bought a Minolta 28-105 for about $100 for when I want to lighten my bag. This whole setup cost me around $2500usd.

[@nicomphoto]

A big yes for a unlimited budget kit ! I would also enjoy seeing a video about the best USED kit for 3000$. Thanks for your excellent videos, look forward to seeing more of them. cheers

[@1fareast14]

Using ebay prices, other kits are possible. If g9 or em1 mk2 is 800 usd 8-18 is 800 40-150 2.8 olympus or 50-200 panasonic for 1000 17mm 1.2 pro for 800 Sigma 30mm 1.4 or 42.5 1.7 You're still under budget! The Leica ultrawide and standard prime could be replaced with the 10-25 1.7 if one prefers.

[@torinsall]

Funny intro. The stills-video switch on top of the XT4 is so handy; I would go with a combination of your XT4 packages with a slight modification... XT4 + 16-80mm bundle, 70-300mm, rode wireless Go ii, K&F variable ND2-ND400, B&W CPL, Fuji battery charger, 3 Fuji batteries, Think Tank Mover 20 bag ...which adds up to $3956.80 USD ...so under the $4000 limit. Could probably add an inexpensive lavaliere mic. 🙃

[@PhotoTrekr]

My main consideration would be to choose a system that I could expand into later by upgrading bodies or adding lenses.

[@Boleetus]

Sony a7iii + tamron 28-75 f2.8 + tamron 70-300 + Sony fe 85/1.8 = 4K usd

[@thirdmort]

I did this over the last year and a half. With EDU discounts on top of sales, I was able to get a Sony a7iii + Sony 35 1.8 + Sony 20 1.8 + Sigma MC11 for less than $3000 USD. I'm using my old Canon 85 1.8 and 70-200 f/4. With that theoretical $1000, I'd probably try to get the Tamron 70-180 on sale too 😄

[@networm64]

To be honest this video was only another promo for Canon while Chris has omitted Sony totally!

[@briandipierro8865]

Picking the S5 made me pretty happy that I have my own. Still need a lens that's not a vintage lens that can autofocus for it, but all the footage with my ol' FD and MD lenses has been so beautiful

[@sinanaydn7907]

I'm actually going to buy it 5 days from now, can you give some real life experiences? I would have also liked to hear about the autofocus but you said you only had vintage lenses soo yea. I've handled one in Best Buy once and at least for photos, it is basically on par with my Canon 250D dual pixel af. I bet the video af is pretty solid too. Imagine Panasonic replacing dfd for phase det or something similar!!

[@briandipierro8865]

@@sinanaydn7907 I've been using it to film me talking to the camera and it's been great, but I've been bringing it a bunch of places. It's bigger than any of my other cameras, heavier than my other cameras (except my Sony A55) and it takes some getting used to from them. At least for me. I ended up using my GX85 more until I can afford that Lumix 50mm f1 8. I've got a paid shoot to bring it to soon though, I've taken a bunch of portraits already and it's wonderful. Raw image files are about 30MB eith decent edit ability.

[@sinanaydn7907]

@@briandipierro8865 Thank you for the info! I'm planing to buy 24-70 for mostly photos and 16 f1.4 for video from Sigma, I actually want that hefty feel rather than my current very light 250D. Also, can you please explain how you got to shoot for money?? How were you able to stand out from the commercial photo/videographers? I also want to make money and possibly amortise the gear I bought while doing something I love. I'd love to hear tips and tricks from you 😁

[@briandipierro8865]

@@sinanaydn7907 I don't actually have a lot of knowledge on that! I just have friends that are giving me money to shoot things for them. One needs video of him trying to fundraise for his film, so he's paying me for that. A bunch of others are for graduation photos for a couple people that like the portraits I've taken at my job. This all started because I brought my camera to my work holiday party and got pictures people loved. Isn't that 16mm f1.4 a crop lens? I've been wanting something more than my vintage lenses so bad.

[@sinanaydn7907]

@@briandipierro8865 thank you! Yes the 16mm turns out to be an APSC lens 😅, can you recommend and fast contemporary lenses for the S5 with silent af? I'm going with the 24-70 but I don't think that it's the fastest and the best for video purposes. I already do photography work at school but I think I'm going to charge now 😅; I've shot the graduation photos of 3 classes, I've shot dozens of events both videos and photos, even short films! Thank you for telling your experience!

[@acanuck1679]

A clever concept. This keeps it fresh and entertaining. BTW, we used to say the same thing about being from Calgary (up in Edmonton, that is).

[@elementary8963]

I have the S5 with the 24-70 (24-105 if APSC mode) Sigma Art lens. It's a winning combo.

[@iamhassan9943]

Yep, and with the new Sigma I series lenses you can pick up a great combo also.

[@dericsanchez4081]

This is the exact kit I have been thinking about.

[@elementary8963]

@@dericsanchez4081 In the UK Panasonic were doing a bundle S5/Sigma 24-70 Art - for a crazy good price. I couldn't pass it up!

[@SuperSuperka]

Fujifilm TX-1 (Xpan) + 45mm lens -best for photo at any budget

[@dericsanchez4081]

@@elementary8963 yeah I don’t blame you. I’d probably jump on something like that too. You don’t find that setup to be big and bulky? Just curious since I’d be coming from the Sony a6300.

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

For 4000$ I would buy half a Leica M-10R 😂

[@NicJohnson]

A man of both taste and class

[@SuperSuperka]

Xpan!

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

@@SuperSuperka oh yes, an xpan would even be in the right price range.

[@gewglesux]

@@NicJohnson Agreed.. Half of a Leica is still better that a full anything else. Understand my Humor..

[@jlwilliams]

Which half? (Insert mermaid joke here…)

[@glenklassen779]

That intro is brilliant. Subscribed.

[@DixonLu]

I'd set aside $300 for theft insurance.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

LOL

[@cbflazaro]

theft insurance is the theft. read the small print. they exclude themselves out of 99% of theft scenarios

[@DixonLu]

@@cbflazaro Had good luck with mine. Got my camera bag stolen on a train in Belgium. Got the money in a few days so I could buy the replacements while still there.

[@YakAlmighty]

Anyone can recommend a good insurance company for people in new York?

[@MirrorlessFrame]

So how many fake accounts does DP review have?

[@tomapaunovic]

I know these are subjective, but I don't get it why the Sony kit is omitted from this video. When I compare my current Sony landscape/portraiture kit it looks superior to everything presented Sony A7R III Tamron 28-200 f2.8-5.6 Samyang 18mm f2.8 Samyang 45mm F1.8 Samyang 75mm F1.8 $3925 in total with awesome body and lot of great lenses covering everything from ultra wide to telephoto. 1800 grams in total and fits neatly into Peak Design Everyday Sling 6L

[@Ohnonomomono]

The Z5 kit plus the Tamron 17-28 & 70-180 when they eventually makes it to the Z mount.

[@mydachi007]

I am going with the xt-4 it does both video and photo... Its great in using too... Love fuji

[@glennsak]

This was one of the best videos on DP Review!

[@MirrorlessFrame]

So how many fake accounts does DP review have?

[@jiffijoff9780]

AF no prio? Easy. G9 and a gazillion spectacular lenses, like the 10-25/1.7 or the Sigmas 16, 30 and 56mm/1.4. For compressed background get the Oly 40-150/2.8. Done 👍

[@1fareast14]

Was just about to suggest the same combo, except a 42.5 1.7 for the prime

[@kennygo8300]

@@1fareast14 The Sigma 56mm 1.4 is an excellent lens. It's the long prime/portrait lens I kept.

[@garrettlison4992]

As I recently had about $4k USD to spend on some new kit primarily for landscape work, I picked up an open box S1 with the 24-105mm f/4 and a 16-35mm f/4 for about $3700 and had some funds left over for accessories. I simply love it and moving over from my G7, even though the weight it up there, I can't imagine going with anything else.

[@cameralabs]

Nice choices!

[@thatjordandrake]

Your approval means everything!

[@cameralabs]

@@thatjordandrake ha ha, if only that were true! PS - loved the intro here and on the how to hold your camera videos!

[@networm64]

The correct sentence could be: " Nice almost sony-free choices!"

[@jootai]

It's Gordon!

[@kingweddingmedia]

I’m a bit biased due to what I currently use and lack of experience in other systems, but I’d likely go for a Sony a6600, the Sony 16-55mm f2.8, 70-350mm f4.5-6.3, and then maybe the upcoming tamron 11-20mm f2.8, or the Sony FE 35mm f1.8.

[@rpestess]

I agree with Jordan's choice. I would put in a Rode Micro instead of one the Go mics and I use the Panasonic 24-105. Great kit!

[@mcwaffles121593]

I'm sorry for 4 grand. The Sony a7iii, sigma 24-70 f2.8 and tamron 70-180 f2.8 is literally in that range. That's the obvious choice

[@ChrlzMaraz]

This guy kits. I'd get the exact same thing.

[@allencrider]

Olympus em5 III at US$840 (ebay). Used BMPCC 4K $999. Used Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 Pro $600. Used Panasonic 35-100mm f2.8 zoom $600. Used Olympus 45mm f1.8 $150.

[@Simoneister]

ssshhh don't let everyone know

[@ScottJWaldron]

I'm with Chris on the Z5 for photography on a budget. Picked one up recently after the price drop. It's really enjoyable to use with old film era glass. The R6 is great too, though a lot pricier. Hopefully both companies fill out their mirrorless lens lineup at the entry level. It would be nice if Nikon had a lower cost 50mm f/2 or similar.

[@counterfit5]

The $200 Canon RF 50mm is extremely tempting

[@wilkbor]

I love these videos and appreciate the humor that you put into them, but I question the call Chris made. I would argue that if you're primarily a stills shooter AND are looking for value AND you have to buy new, I would suggest looking at the tried and true DSLR. Nikon D750, Nikon D610, Canon 6D mark ii and the Pentax K1 have kits that come with lenses. If you're willing to consider aps-c sensors, then you get even more value options. Still, these are fun to watch. Great job, guys.

[@rythie]

In the short term maybe, but in the longer term would you want to keep adding to an old lens mount?

[@XxLuke117xX]

You know we want to see that kit… along with a battle. Best shot? 5 second clip or one hell of a photo? Thanks for the great content guys. Always stoked to see a notification from you!

[@ericrauzy8894]

You could also buy an Olympus EM1 mk3 + the 12-40mm 2.8 Pro + 40-150mm 2.8 pro (1800+1200+800$) for exactly 4000$ :p

[@networm64]

Watched the video twice cause I can't still believe it! How could Chris pass on all those great options in Sony from 6600 as apsc with great G lenses or even Tamron! And OMG! In FF there are a lot of more options even! From the new a7c to a7iii and even a7riii!

[@afanasieguler7833]

Leaving Sony aside, he also passed the Z6, despite the CFExpress issue, Z6 is a cheaper a7 iii and crushes the Z5 (A7 II in Nikon body). Taking his shoes I guess they tried to stick without sale prices, A7 III and Z6 even if selling under 1.5K$ are technically 2k$ cameras, harder to justify. A7Riii is again over budget.

[@anthonyjustin2767]

Yo the “Donna did it” plug midway is worth watching again 🤣…”Got it for a steal of a price” 🤣

[@andreasbuder4417]

Hmm, the Sony A6400 + Tamron 17-70mm f2.8 + Sony 10-18 f4 + Sigma 30mm f1.4 + Sony 75-350mm also would have been an excellent choice instead of the R6 kit (and you also would have had quite a budget left). What you think?

[@maxvain]

A7rIII + Sigma 24-70 + Tamron 70-180

[@alhOOO2O]

Absolutely love these videos, so glad you made one for a bigger budget! Please keep making things like this

[@MirrorlessFrame]

So how many fake accounts does DP review have?

[@alhOOO2O]

@@MirrorlessFrame If you don't like it, why are you commenting on it? Go do something else with your life

[@MirrorlessFrame]

@@alhOOO2O I don't take advice from fake people who are trying to create lame content. Stop filling the internet with crap. I am here to stay fake boy. bye!

[@mistermastermind528]

Just recently picked up a 2-camera system and for $4000 budget, I wouldn't change anything about what I bought. But I probably would add another camera (that's a maybe). For sure, I would add more accessories like lenses, tripods, sliders, lav mics. This was a fun watch, guys. Always enjoy your videos. Keep it up.

[@RobinHood948]

Which one did you get? 4k isn't really a big budget for 2 cameras and lenses

[@mistermastermind528]

@@RobinHood948 My budget was way below $4000. I just thought I should explain that ahead. Anyway, I bought the Lumix GX85 and the Lumix G85 (both with their kit lenses) with the cheap entry-level Olympus 40-150mm lens. I'm hoping to add the 25mm f1.7 soon and the Meike Cine lenses.

[@hatemkssibi5071]

A7iii+sigma 24-70 +tamron 70-180. You can go for the a7riii but then there will be no money for accessoires

[@neonbirding2680]

A lot of great choices and combos you all have there. For me, Lumix G9, 100-400 ELMAR, Two UHS-II V60 cards, USB battery pack for recharging, a BLF19.

[@paulloth]

I want to see Jordyn carrying an Alexa 65 with signature Primes to every Shoot🤣🤣

[@xx1simon1xx]

Amira would be doable

[@Kevon420]

and all of the brand new Sig Prime zooms.

[@sergtrav]

A7Rlll, Tamron 17-28, Sony 90 2.8 Macro or Sigma 105 2.8 Macro.

[@EzzaLeo]

Your intros are always a highlight I look forward to 😊 For me, as someone who wants as much versatility with quality as possible, I'd go for the Olympus Em1ii with the 12-100, 7-14 and the 30mm macro lens

[@KyleClements]

I'd rebuy my current setup: Z6 with 14-30 f/4 and 50mm 1.8. Rugged. Amazing ergonomics. Amazing setup for my needs.

[@haydenrivers123]

Please do "The $8000 Camera Kit" or "The $10,000 Camera Kit" or even "The $15,000 Camera Kit" That would be way more useful than "Money is No Object Camera Kit" (although I would watch that one too)

[@TommyWilliams1]

Would love to see the money-no-object kits.

[@village_mayor]

Agree with the stills photography choice. I used to own the R6 (used to, because I upgraded to the R5 and blame the Ordinary Filmmaker for that!) and absolutely loved it for its image quality and ergonomics. The XT-4 is a good solid choice as well and was actually my third choice before I purchased the R6 back in September 2020.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

The GH5 is still a great camera. Think of the glass and other tools, slider, tripod, etc. But Jordan's Panny choice is a great one.

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

@John Saldana Price though. The Panny color sciece beats Sony and Canon IMO. They have a budget. I use my GH 4 and 5 all the time. Mist folks watch in Tablets and cell phones now anyway. I agree if one has the money and needs that boost in sharpness, spend the bucks. Hell, get a VariCam LT or a Red if y'all can afford it. I can't! Story is more important anyway.

[@HappyHubris]

It seems insane to go for 20MP and F4 glass when you could say an A7RIII and 2 Tamron F2.8 zooms for the same budget.

[@RobinHood948]

20MP is enought to fill a hole site in a magazine, maybe also a DIN A3. If you only look at the MP, I suggest you to buy one of the 100MP phones :P

[@zweitervorhang]

Love the "dpreviews". Love the humor. I got the feeling, that with most kits, they are considered a nice starting point with future purchases in mind. I went to the camerastore website and put together a kit for 4995.23 Canadian Dollars. Backpack, SD card, 1 body, 3 zooms, 3 primes, 14 to 600 mm reach, that I would be happy with .... ;-)

[@maxvain]

I feel as though money should never be spent on the body over lenses. So the R6 is a no for me.

[@bradleyeid9260]

How about the photo kit for a bucket-list trip around the world? No cost constraint, but weight and size limited, because you have to carry all the gear along with all your clothing.

[@iZephiroth]

Fuji XT4 or an X100V for ultimate portability.

[@rohaanmanzoor3268]

Jordan’s Sony a7 build should be the default photography kit for $4000

[@ziginox]

Ehhh maybe, while it's certainly not a bad camera, it is starting to get long in the tooth. I have a feeling we'll be seeing a replacement soon that has real time tracking and better video recording, as well as the body enhancements from the A7sIII. Can completely see why Sony wasn't even considered in the APS-C range, though. Still waiting on a lot of updates, there. (I say this as an A6500 user that was considering either jumping to full frame, or buying my first 'expensive' APS-C lens six months ago.) If the a6600 were a bit compelling, a kit with it and the 16-55 wouldn't have been bad at all. It's a pretty stellar optic.

[@rohaanmanzoor3268]

@@ziginox no one has a better apsc lineup than fuji. But for fullframe nothing comes close to sony if you’re on budget in terms of stills. Primarily because you can get great lenses at great prices like you can easily get a 24-70 f2.8 for around $700-800 for sony. In canon and nikon realms they cost over $2000 as they lack third party lenses

[@TL-vt8uk]

I think Panasonic S5 kit is a way better choice for both photos and video! Good choice!!

[@flickrchannyuk4396]

Nice video! As a long time Nikon shooter, for the equivalent of $4000 in the UK based on current Nikon promotion pricing for the Z series, my shortlist would be (A) Nikon Z5 + 24-200mm kit, 14-30mm, 50mm 1.8S, or (B) Nikon Z7 + 24-70 f/4 + FTZ kit, 50mm 1.8S, or (C) Nikon D780 + 24-120mm kit, Tamron 35mm VC, Tamron 85mm VC. Option A would be the most versatile small travel photography package, option B would provide the best image quality and allow for affordable expansion with used F-mount glass and option B would be a great DSLR hybrid package for travel and portrait work.

[@salmanul_fares]

I'm surprised Jordan didn't consider Blackmagic at that budget.

[@qbgabe12]

Cage … ext batteries … ext monitor …

[@networm64]

Exactly! More wonder when he chose a7iii rather than a7c which is the video centric camera obviously! Oh and why Chris haven't considered Sony at all?!

[@vgriga9682]

...And, since not all scenes involve moving subjects, let's throw in in-body stabilization... And let's not forget about the elements. I bet it will be a real hit. Thank you very much, guys, I feel very patriotic every time I see how you show-case our crappy weather.

[@Getoffmycloud53]

First, this your kit does not have to be based on covering the whole FOV range with zooms. If I’d start anew I probably will go primes only until I am happy - at which point I might pick up a small standard zoom for p&s. On ff I’d go with reasonably fast 35-(50)-85mm primes and if there is money left probably a 20mm - done. Canon is currently charging too much, so I’d probably go Sony 7a3 or Nikon z6 II - add primes according to budget. Maybe even some old school manual focus lenses, to stretch the budget. ...but the XT4 (or XS10) is a great deal, add Viltrox 23-33-56-85mm primes and I probably still have money for a super wide (zoom) and other stuff (especially with the XS10). This is probably the most bang for the Buck kit. Context I have Canon and Nikon DSLRs and lenses. On paper I like the R6* but imo is too expensive. *they are going to pull a Canon and release a R6 Mark II, with a 24-26mpx sensor, updated chipset and another 20% price increase in 2 years...

[@jakeripley8594]

would love to see the ultimate run and gun kit, especially from jordan from the video perspective, but also chris' insight since a souly videocentric camera wouldnt make sense either. love the work guys keep it up!

[@marknugentfilms]

Loved this episode, so funny and agree with both your choices. Would love to see your guys dream set ups!

[@SuperSuperka]

Hasselblad Xpan + 45mm lens or Fuji TX-1 with this lens - that all what I need in this budget.

[@dougwright1211]

I love how they split it between photo and video. Well done!! I’m horrible sticking with a budget. I would have spent $6k US on a $4k budget.

[@maximilianf.4236]

Wait... you're giving us the a7 III for a sony video package even though the a7C is less expensive, has a fully articulating screen, no record limit, no overheating and is more compact and light-weight?

[@kubace5398]

Kieślowski's poster - nice touch!

[@sans6956]

You guys , how is this channel not bigger than it is ?! 👌

[@thatjordandrake]

Spread the word!

[@ryanhoviolin]

Jordan is wearing the Amadeus T-Shirt! That’s one of my most favourite movies of all time! Nice one Jordan!

[@exploresouthwest]

A very important mindset I'd have when building out a new kit is expandability. Skimping on a body or lens with the idea of "I'll just replace it later" is just shooting yourself in the foot later down the road. I'd build a kit that has gear you'll be using for 2-3 years that covers as many bases as you can out the gate and add lenses you use less often as you get money later. So it's super important to be choosing a mount ecosystem you'll be happy with for a while.

[@BubbleBoy20101]

Loved the video! Would also like to see a mid-range camera kit ~$2500

[@jacobcarandang8618]

In this price range buy the last generation camera and splurge on lightly used lenses. I got an xt3 and 4 great lenses for around that price.

[@lilnape2604]

Z5 (1000) + 24-200 (800) + 85 (700)

[@danieldougan269]

Good choices, gentlemen. As for me, I would go with the Sony A7 III. Even though the video is only 8 bit, it still looks fantastic being supersampled from a 6K sensor. And, of course, I would buy everything used.

[@nicolasyoakim854]

Rouge from Kiewslowski. Full Respect !

[@hooked4lifeca]

X-T4 and then I can get a good selection of glass. Being stuck with just one zoom, or in Chris's case a zoom and a prime, is very limiting. Alternately I could just go all street and make myself very happy. X-PRO3 and a bunch of those WR f2 primes, 16 (f2.8), 23, 35 and a 50.

[@faustoortiz1343]

Would love to see the dream camera setup video, no budget.

[@TooCoolTayveion]

My 4th grade Teacher Mr.Beattie was from Edmonton, he was a pretty cool guy I’ll never forget him aha

[@sreeharisavithan9735]

Z5 + 35 1.8 + 85 1.8 + 14-30 f4 😀

[@jml7916]

I could probably live with that kit, but I can get so much more for a different system that has 3rd party support. My minimum is a wide angle, a telezoom and 1 fast normal-portrait prime.

[@gdrriley420]

I'd go X-S10 over XT-4 and get some different lenses. that would allow a 16-55 and 50-140 F2.8 combo or the 16-80F4, 10-24F4, 70-300

[@strudercutie]

I love the little skits you do at the start of every video

[@rayyan5547]

I have a 4000 USD budget and I have been planning my kit for months and I guess that this is the best kit for multipurpose photography: Canon eos R (1600) Canon rf 24 105 f4L(850) Canon ef 16 35 f4L(850) Tamron 100 400 f4.5 6.3 (700) Note that the some equipment are refurbished or partially used but that would be my go for kit

[@user-zr2pc7dj3m]

Thanks a lot. Yesterday i sold my nikon z6 .and bought panasonic s5. Because of both of you.

[@Dani.R.R]

I went for the R6 and The 24-105 f4 as my personal kit a while ago. And I recommended the XT4 kit at work for the new working system. So, good for you, Chris!!

[@WIDGI]

Used is obviously the way to go for this budget. Nikon D500 for $1000, Nikkor 200-500 for $1000, Nikkor 35mm 1.8 G ED for $500. Half your budget left! Get the 500mm PF instead of the 200-500? Or a macro lens and a portrait zoom? So many option!

[@WhisperWorksGaming]

I love the Canon system, but the I like how Sony's system is open to third party manufactures. Sony's heavy investment in mirrorless the past decade leaves a lot of catch-up for Nikon and Canon, which has only been compounded by manufacturing delays due to the pandemic.

[@mahidoes]

Sony Alpha a6100 Mirrorless Digital Camera with 16-50mm $848 Sony Alpha a6100 Mirrorless Digital Camera (Body Only) $748 Viltrox AF 23mm f/1.4 E Lens for Sony E (Black) $299 Sigma 56mm f/1.4 DC DN Contemporary Lens for Sony E $429 Venus Optics Laowa 9mm f/2.8 Zero-D $499 Magnus TR-13 Travel Tripod with Dual-Action Ball Head $70 Total : 2893$ I'll use rest of the money to get lighting kit (which is crucial that's why i saved money) and may be a macro lens as well (not essential). Also a gimbal if you in to video.

[@mareklesniak8768]

Great stuff guys and well done with the intro :-) +1 for money-is-no-object episode!

[@colhutchins]

Great vid guys! Jordan, are you not a fan of the 24-105 for the Panasonic?

[@robertpearson1781]

I had all my gear stolen shortly after starting up on my own in 1993. With no savings I thought I was out of business. But…. The Princess Trust ( as in Prince Charles) gave me £5k which saved the day. I bought a Mamiya RB67 kit with 3 primes and never looked back. Thanks Charlie!

[@jr-wv4qw]

Ever since I switched to film, I haven't felt the need to even pick up a digital camera. I bought a cheap xt2 just to have one just in case, but I've only used it once in a few months. Film is just so much better.

[@olivergoldvalente]

Do two more! One more practical best kit. One dream no limits kit.

[@deepaksomayya]

I would for for Nikon Z5 and take Z series lenses

[@PatrikHorvathYT]

What about the Sony A7 II + Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 + Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 + Tamron 70-180mm f2.8 for photography? You rarely replace good lenses and once the Sony A7 IV comes out you can upgrade if you wanted to.

[@exhaustedbutupbeat1214]

Great video! I am looking forward to another video like this. Also, an idea: with COVID on the decline a lot of people are coming out of a cocoon and are maybe are ready to spend time (and money) on a hobby outside of their house... so maybe a video about how photography is a cool hobby? And, more gear guides for modest investments / people who are upgrading from a cellphone. For example, I loved Jordan's idea of a S5 in this video but he quickly admitted that he has no problem wrangling focus. What would his CA$ 5,000 kit be if he *needed* good autofocus?

[@CarlBergsdorf]

Lol great cameo from Dunna! And the video was top notch as usual

[@RC534]

I got an R6 with the 24-105 f4/L last fall and really enjoy the setup. I do use it with the grip as to balance it out. Recently also got the 50mm f/1.8. Great for when you're going somewhere and just want to shoot some casual photo's with the camera suddenly becoming quite nimble without the grip attached. It also makes putting the camera in the hands of people less familiar with photographing a much nicer experience if you'd like to sometimes also want appear in photos with that expensive camera you bought :-D. No zooming in-and-out to confuse things as the 50mm focal length speaks for itself :-)