Best APS-C Mirrorless Cameras 2021 - Sony a6600, Fujifilm X-T4, Canon M6 Mark II & Nikon Z50

[@kwikrench]

The lady in the background when you’re talking about the z50 on the rocks, had the look of “who is he talking too?” 😂🤣

[@JohnDoe-yd7zm]

She wanted to express her own frustration at the DX Z-mount lens roadmap

[@kwikrench]

@@JohnDoe-yd7zm 😂🤣

[@checksix_TC]

Nah.... she's probably staring into one of Jason's holes as mentioned in the beginning.

[@francissosingindyrcworldga8936]

Now she's the real winner 😍 here

[@tjkrueger2655]

X-T gang knows what's up

[@AnastasTarpanov]

And now I'm even more sad that Samsung exited the camera business years ago...

[@chrisdwyer1477]

I couldn't agree more. I still have my nx500, and I use it more regularly than a lot of newer cameras I own!

[@rrariix]

I feel that a "Lens selection/System overview" segment is missing. You kind of covered it in the Final Rankings, but I feel like talking about the system as a whole should be more imporant than a sidenote in the final summary.

[@oneeyedphotographer]

I agree, I intended the same comment.

[@lorenzoamato953]

Agree. It's hard to talk about "the best camera", without mentioning the lens system it's going to be paired with. Of course they took it into account in the final moments, but they should have stated it more clearly early on.

[@Talyessin63]

As some one who's tossing up full frame or APS-C mirrorless (from an antique Canon 350D plus lenses) it'd be useful to know a little about the lenses. Perhaps a follow up to allow 1st and 2nd to duke it out with the lenses included?

[@MercUndGut]

Came here to comment the exact same thing. I think the cameras are all fine and I personally like the Fujifilm system but the lens variety on the other systems are miles ahead (if it's not about manually operated primes at least).

[@amirulizzad6122]

The best thing about Fujifilm is, you get a free ticket to join the cult with every purchase. 😀

[@Makaveli6103]

The best cult to be apart of IMO

[@shahid28285]

What are you talking about? I recently purchased XT4, I am not aware of the cult. Please enlighten me.

[@professionalpotato4764]

@@shahid28285 We do not talk about the cult. We just keep a lookout for people when they say "OMG I love your photos, the colours are amazing". At which point you start the sermon, whisper *Fuji is eternaaaaaaaaaa* and they'll become one of us too.

[@amirulizzad6122]

@@Makaveli6103 Long live Classic Chrome. Praise be

[@amirulizzad6122]

@@shahid28285 Explaination is futile my brother. Praise Classic Chrome

[@Valhalla.Studio]

Been shooting with Nikon Z50 for about a year now, great camera! Still enjoying it!

[@ChimaChindaDev]

Without even watching - Fujifilm wins.

[@wilsonpalmpre]

@@joey_bonzo neither did Nikon believe Fuji stand a chance agsint them. Actually Fuji started off with Nikon manufacturing Finepix series for them... Now Fuji is selling more mirrorless than Nikon ❨well Nikon was just entering the niche market of mirrorless lately❩

[@veldomort]

I mean, it even beats the a7 iii in most categories if you don’t care about full frame sensors.

[@Vinterloft]

@@wilsonpalmpre The X-T4 hasn't been a huge breadwinner for Fuji through the pandemic though. It's actually the X-S10 raking in the cash for them. (And before that, the X-T30, now taken a nose-dive because of the X-S10) Not surprising really considering price sensitivity being up.

[@wilsonpalmpre]

@@Vinterloft I think Fuji is not focusing on making money out of bodies. They are eager to sell more lens. I guess Fuji is deeply worried that APS-C market is on the decline.

[@cameraperv]

Fuji is the Japanese Leica.

[@ReclusiveEagle]

4:30 *Sees man recording video* Woman: "What is he doing??? Is he recording a video??? Is he recording me? It can't be the man on the rock waving his arms around in front of the camera and 3 cameras on a rock. I need to get a better look. Unbelievable these kids today with their Toktiks"

[@JetBen555]

I hate people like her, they always need to LOOK

[@johnnosacka9556]

Please give her a break. See the way she was hunching forward. She has trouble seeing. Toktikkers take youth and eyesight for granted

[@ReclusiveEagle]

@@johnnosacka9556 1: Its cold and she's in a hurry to get somewhere 2: She isn't 95 years old 3: Your back has nothing to do with your eyesight 4: Where are the TikTok stars??? or are you incapable of understanding sarcasm

[@sjsphotog]

He got photo/video bombed for sure hahahh

[@-arb-]

@@JetBen555 don't look at her then.

[@Magellan678]

I feel like more discussion should be had around the size of these cameras. The XT4 is the size of a full frame camera… the biggest perk of the A6600 is it’s size! Hard to beat as a travel camera

[@nickkruger9566]

especially with the 16-50 lens

[@TheBser97]

I have an a7r IV. Just a hobbyist, so I decided to put it up for sale. Wanted to go back to APS-C. Wasn't sure if I wanted to go a6600, or Fuji X-T4. Found both for similar price right now. Heart told me to go with Fuji, but I went with the Sony. Wanted to go back to APS-C for the small, compact size and weight, and the a6600 does that for me. The Fuji, per specs on B&H, is the same size, even slightly larger in width, than the full frame a7r IV. Also weighs about the same, too. Wanted the Fuji, really did. Just wish the T4 was smaller (but still weatherproof, IBIS). Didn't care for the x-s10

[@muttishelfer9122]

I owned the M6ii for a couple of months and than switched to Fuji. Best desicion ever!

[@busansanai]

as someone that's been thinking of getting M6ii, I'm curious what made you to switch?

[@muttishelfer9122]

@@busansanai fe. not enough native lenses, handling with external EVF and EF Adapter sucked, i see no future in the m system, Grip was to small for my fingers

[@mbismbismb]

@@busansanai dont listen to him... i'm currently using m6 mark ii , trust me the autofocus gives u confidence autofocus than the Fuji, plus m6 mii has higher pixels

[@kapilesh14]

Which fuji camera did you get?

[@muttishelfer9122]

@@kapilesh14 X-T4

[@MulyadiSubali]

Bypassing the full frame has proven to be a great business strategy by Fuji.

[@thatdopedude7217]

I agree it's too crowded

[@zzMigMitzz]

@GhostShelter Canon, Sony, and Nikon all have full frame cameras that sit very close to their APSC. Fuji on the other hand only has APCS and medium format, which is sits far above apsc. The result is Canon, Sony, Nikon APSC cameras all got neutered in some way so that they don't eat into the FF market. Whereas Fuji can afford to give you the best of the best (of APSC) without eating their medium format line.

[@krollpeter]

@@zzMigMitzz Full frame is still better. It has sharper fine detail and more definition in dark tones that overall gives images a depth and vivid appearance, that can't be reached by smaller formats. I watched probably all full frame to aps-c comparisons available. Sure, some aps-c cameras come pretty close. With some post-work they sure produce exquisite images, too. But for that wow-effect more sensor is what does it.

[@Guizmopeg]

In a marketing sense that was a brilliant idea because beginner photographers have their mind all set up on buying APS-C, so that's how Fuji got at the top of the overall camera market shares. But on a rational level this decision makes no sense at all. You can get almost any entry to mid-level full frame camera for the same price as the X-T4. Just like Peter Kroll said before me, the FF will always have the upper hand in IQ, and most of the entry to mid-level FF cameras have (at least) an edge over any APS-C, even X series, in every category. Dropping that much money on a crop sensor makes no sense at all, no matter how good the brand APS-C lenses are.

[@zigaauer3056]

@@Guizmopeg When did Fuji get to the top of the camera market share? The last marker share analysis has it at like 5% of the total market share, with even Nikon doing better in 2021. Overall Canon is still dominating even with it's completely anemic mirrorless ILC output with around 50% market share, Sony is second and probably the top selling mirrorless manufacturer, and Nikon is still at 15% market share even while plummeting catastrophically for a few years now.

[@pf4773]

Thanks for this very helpful review. As a Sony APSC person, first the A6000 and now owner of the A6600, this has been my go to camera for great shots when I travel internationally. I love the small lens sizes for travel, and how little I have to pay for lenses that are small and compact, since there are so many third-party options in the sony Emount system. I don't know if Fuji's XT4 allows for so many third party options. I cannot argue with the conclusion that the Fuji XT4 is the best camera. However, the feel of the Fuji is bulky in my hands and heavy. I love the slender, low profile of the Sony camera and find that it is incredibly light and comfortable to hold after hours of shooting and walking. The big downfall of the Sony camera is it's very poor ibis compared to other cameras. We are moving toward cameras becoming very steady, but Sony lags considerably behind others in this area. Ultimately, I may end up going with the fuji system, but not for the foreseeable future.

[@biondiwiyono5431]

can always go with fuji's X-S10 with considerably smaller body but retains the excellent grip, still has a great IBIS too.

[@MegaNardman]

I've never found the Fuji XTs to be comfortable to hold. They have a really shallow grip, and my pinkie always found a really sharp edge to rest on. That said, I love their dials for most situations.

[@NeXMaX]

Same here. I have the X-T3 and it always has either a battery grip or a Smallrig L-bracket on just for the reason of adding extra to hold onto. I love using the camera but without the extra perch, holding it for long periods, especially with bigger glass, to be pretty uncomfortable. Waiting for an X-H2 for that reason. Hopefully it's good.

[@veeaa]

Try the X-S10 and perhaps an L-bracket for the pinky.

[@NitroXpress]

Yep -I´m an X-T3 owner and I really miss the ergo of my old Nikon. If I were in the market for a new camera - it would probably be an Z5 or Z6II.

[@Vinterloft]

The vertical grip should be considered mandatory for all top-end Fujifilm cameras. With one it's the most comfortable camera ever IMO. And it has the headphone jack anyway.

[@Steven205]

@@Vinterloft The problem with that is that it defeast the purpose of a compact APS-C camera. I think they got it right with the XS10

[@radosawhuawei6186]

The best mirrorless camera forever is the Pentax k-01 .... Jordan don't even bother to speak up ;)

[@thatjordandrake]

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[@actuallyamazingcontent7852]

the xt4 is pretty amazing, but at that price we could just buy a sony a7iii or a7c

[@dannydanutzu1]

Not really, got my xt4 at 1600€ with 16-80mm included, for Sony A7 III had to add 600€ extra...

[@rotvonrat]

Do not think it is a good idea to buy crop sensor cameras when you can buy full frame which is cheaper and better than the winner here.

[@wparo]

You have spoken then truth!

[@animaxxx4429]

Which model of full frame at $1700 is better than XT-4 I wonder ?

[@SociPsych]

As a owner of several FF cameras, I avoid traveling with them like the plague! Excellent image quality, but super heavy, every one notices you, etc. Not to mention that the difference in image quality has been shrinking over the years.

[@wilsonpalmpre]

@@SociPsych Not to mention APS-C lens are cheaper than FF lens ❨if you omit optical quality❩

[@SociPsych]

@@wilsonpalmpre absolutely

[@eddyg1794]

Hmmmm the Fuji is $700 more but still isn't the best autofocus system of the bunch. That as usual belongs to Sony. It doesn't matter how sophisticated or egronomic a camera is...if the autofocus isn't giving sharp images what do you have?

[@MMillan]

Me who bought a nikon z50 *pikachu surprise face

[@JavisandLea]

Kinda felt like the XS-10 deserved being included in this video's lineup just because it would be more within the price range and feature set of the other 3 cameras but great video as always guys!

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

I think the reason they used the X-T4 since they are comparing the best APS-C cameras from each manufacturer so the X-S10 wouldnt make the cut even if it does match closer in price point to the others

[@techno_techie2923]

@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI That makes sense because I was feeling the same as the OP.

[@adnan_velic]

Exactly! The guy is comparing Honda’s to a Ferrari.

[@galachiev]

This video wasn’t about price. They compared features and X-T4 has everything that X-S10, but more. That’s why X-S10 isn’t here

[@planetfun85]

Trash comparition. Xt4 cost twice the price of z50

[@MegaNardman]

Seriously, though, those Sony Z batteries are amazing.

[@pyotrpig]

LMAO XD

[@mirrorlessny]

true, probably the main reason I still have a6600 even thought transitioned to full frame

[@joshgeurink2131]

Right!! My A7iii literally last for weeks. Like we're talking 1500+ shots per battery

[@ItzSi]

I still rock the Canon M6 ii …. Works great with my EOS RP.

[@alexfns2427]

Would you feel confident using the m6mk2 for a paid shoot? Are the stills good enough in your opinion?

[@abdelrahmanhesham9558]

Nikon z50 wins aginst fujifilm x t4 in auto focus

[@radinnasir8933]

You should watch a KZbin where they pit the nikon z50 against a6400, a6600 and fujifilm xt4. The result surprised me. Nikon z50 is really underrated.

[@abdelrahmanhesham9558]

@@radinnasir8933 up thats correct, watched many videos really the z50 is underrated

[@TCinSoCal]

Having owned the A6600 and Z50 .. still own the Z50 the IQ from the Nikon is significantly better. IBIS? That’s the knock? I call BS. AF? Yes, Sony wins but the images from my Z50 are night and day better than the Sony with ‘kit’ lenses. The Z50 meters better than my X100V and often produces a cleaner image…definitely more accurate.

[@letsfindout6587]

Nikon fanboy crying

[@TCinSoCal]

@@letsfindout6587 yeah.. Nikon fanboy who has shot Fuji for the last 5 years until the Z system.. but ok.

[@krishnag1981]

There were certain details left out in this comparison such as built in flash in Nikon z50 and canon m6ii which is missing in xt4 and a6600. Animal eye focus is present in Nikon and Sony which is missing in fujifilm and canon efm lineup. Native adapters in canon and Nikon to use dslr lenses which is not available to Sony and fujifilm. Dual card slot of fujifilm xt4 vs single card slot in the rest. I think comparison was not fair to Nikon z50 given editing and loading jpg picture profile is far easier and flexible in Nikon than fujifilm, Sony or canon.

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

Nikon has only TWO apsc lenses. Z full frame lenses are great, so why not buy the Z5 instead? I don't know about the pricing in your country but here the prices here is roughly NT$23800 vs NT$30000. The Z5 also has IBIS and focus bracketing and uses EN-EL15. If there were no Z5, the Z50 might be worth a look.

[@krishnag1981]

@@shang-hsienyang1284 Nikon Z5 is a professional class camera. No built in flash, has dual card slot, better video codecs, etc. I feel to compare Z50 to a6600 and xt4 is not fair. For a beginner Canon M50 or Nikon Z50 maybe more suitable but for a semi professional looking for apsc camera maybe we'll served with a6600, xt4.

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

@@krishnag1981 XT4 is priced $47000 here, the same price range as the a7iii, and far more expensive than both the Z5 and Z50. Comparing it with the Z50 is unfair.

[@vidthreenorth4007]

Sony has three current adapters to use their A-mount DSLR lenses. Two of those adapters will even support "screwdriver" auto-focus era lenses, which neither Canon nor Nikon fully support (you can use the lens and will have auto-exposure, but no auto-focus). To that extent, they have "better" adapters than Canon or Nikon, but that is only "on paper". I would like to see comparisons of auto-focus performance.

[@techtt6213]

Would be cool if the film simulations video would also show film recipes created by the community, like fujixweekly and Joe d'agostino

[@GrandHuevotes]

meh. kind of pretentious to be referring to “recipes.” i hate that word as a fujifilm enthusiast. besides… make your own “recipe.” people too often want to be lazy and copy someone’s efforts and get instant gratification. i’ve been making my own film sims and they come out great. zero influence from the “community.” otherwise one doesn’t learn.

[@techtt6213]

@@GrandHuevotes true true but that's the term people use. And like it or not the 'recipe' community is rather large

[@SlowToe]

The real winner is the sound of the wind 🌬

[@marcmcleanphoto]

not wind noise, background city noise

[@jacobcarandang8618]

Those looking to hop into Fuji on a budget I got a used xt3 for $700 and an xs10 can be had for $1000 new. The build quality on their lenses also makes it easy to score pristine quality gear for cheap on eBay.

[@xmlthegreat]

Yeah, the XS-10 would still beat every camera in this comparison at a lower cost.

[@voorachter2733]

In my shithole country they still ask €800 for a completely run down X-T2. Can't imagine what the second hand price for an X-T3 is

[@DK-ys2cw]

The Nikon Z50 is a great little companion to a full frame Z system. For example, instead of buying a 35mm prime lens, for the same money I bought the Z50 to put my 20mm lens on. ..and with the little kit lens I have a great travel camera as well as a back up body.

[@B3D_FPV]

@SF6 Crop factor for wildlife is a huge reason.

[@oneeyedphotographer]

@@B3D_FPV Not so much with high resolution cameras, starting with Canon's 5Ds cameras. I can crop 50 megapixels down to a similar number of pixels of the 70D, D500 etc to get the same results.

[@B3D_FPV]

@@oneeyedphotographer Yeah, but with like 5fps. D850 9fps with grip. Up till this point with stacked sensors like the A1 & Z9, high res & fps was not really possible. So smaller formats had a distinct advantage. It is the single reason for which I use a M43 cam sometimes. It has higher pixel density than any sensor other than medium format right now.

[@quitelikeryan]

Amazing review of Jordan: “Has holes; sufficient.”

[@BrianMakesFilms]

I'm definitely enjoying my a6600. Recent purchase as a b-cam to my A7iii since it has no video record limit and it has been doing a great job for me. Eventually I'll get up to an FX3 or A7Siii, but for now these are good.

[@russellgosse7274]

Nice review as always, boys. I'm hoping to see a Nikon Z70 with IBIS and an updated 24MP+ sensor to compete with the others. Wishful thinking I guess.

[@oneeyedphotographer]

You still need APS-C lenses.

[@pvsamorgan9803]

I wake up every morning hoping for a NIKON announcement. Z50 would be my companion if that didn't have a flip-down screen. Nikon Z70 with IBIS and the fully articulated screen is my dream camera as a non-professional who loves to click. Nikon is the best in terms of color science and ergonomics. I would prefer the small ef-m lenses over those Z lenses though. If Nikon does not bring an APS-C that looks like Canon M50 but higher specs, then I will have to get a Canon M6 Mark II. Yeah....wishful thinking..... Let's hope Nikon hears us out. ...

[@oneeyedphotographer]

@@pvsamorgan9803 The M50 has been very popular with vloggers, regardless of which brand of camera they use for stills, and before that the 100D, the lightest DSLR. Like all APS-C DSLRs from Nikon and Canon, there's a lack of good APS-C lenses, but probably there's enough for its intended users, and it works pretty well with EF lenses and adaptor.

[@landyshserebristyy2493]

z70? Very unlikely ...

[@pvsamorgan9803]

@@landyshserebristyy2493 I figured so.... That’s why I went ahead and purchased Canon M6 Mk II already. 😎

[@Vultite]

Fuji's price makes it hard to ignore a full frame option instead

[@r1thy]

buy fuji xt3 now is under 1000buck is the same as xt4 but without ibis

[@JetBen555]

@@r1thy Don't forget the X-S10, it's 1000$, has the same 26mp sensor and retain IBIS but it has no 10bit video and the smaller battery (like the XT3). The X-S10 alone kill all the other APSC camera in that 1000$ price range.

[@jacobcarandang8618]

Got a used Fuji xt3 which still has the newest sensor for $700 so my wallet disagrees. But yes buying all brand new gear fujifilm only saves you about 20% in both price and weight on your lenses.

[@Mn-xh9ps]

I agree

[@Vinterloft]

@@JetBen555 X-S10 does have 10-bit output over HDMI. It's a crazy camera, designed to slit Sony's throat ear to ear. I'd be surprised if in 5 years anyone but Fuji are still trying to beat Fuji. None of them can resist trying to upsell you to full frame, Fuji just wants to dominate APS-C.

[@TorresinhoLFC]

Fuji is king of APS-C but I'd choose Sony for upgradability . I had a6000 then a6400 and now a7iii

[@robmcd]

I had A7iii now I have XT4

[@TorresinhoLFC]

@@robmcd That's absolutely fine. You probably prefer the APS-C format. I personally need full frame, cause i shoot sports in badly lit gyms and i need better high iso performance. Fuji doesn't have full frame line up. Sony has both. I can use my FF glass on my crop body and vice versa. Sony has more ups than downs.

[@robmcd]

@@TorresinhoLFC I use my R5 for that shooting environment shooting jpeg. I can get super clean images at 25,000 ISO and my 2.8 70-200 is 1kg

[@mirrorlessny]

nice upgrade path, mine came out a bit longer a6000>a6300>a6400>a6600>a7iii>a7S3

[@robmcd]

@@mirrorlessny I’m confident you will never need to upgrade that camera. As an R5 user I’ll admit the A7S3 is the “better” camera. I just got sick of Sony’s lack of weathersealing and colours. But these new cine profiles from Sony are truly amazing.

[@mayaventuraelsalvador]

All theses cameras are just wonderful but I still love my Panasonic Lumix G85 😂

[@ahmad1080p]

just bought a 6600, the rolling shutter is extreme, I regret buying it.

[@vidthreenorth4007]

The only hope for rolling shutter on that camera is to record at 30 fps. Even then it is still bad, but at 24 fps it is probably around 30% worse. I had accurate numbers, but I cannot find them right now. But if you are firmly a 24 fps video user, then the Sony is "a great stills camera!" :-)

[@ahmad1080p]

@@vidthreenorth4007 I found out that the 180 degree method is being used to eliminate it buy blurring the frames, which is sad for me as I always do camera tracking, even the stability of the 6600 isn't that good.

[@mirrorlessny]

@@ahmad1080p all correct, rolling shutter & ibis are not good on a6600, if those are your priorities than check a7s3 or fx3, used a9 might be a choice but research it first, depending on quality needed & budget maybe a GoPro will do? - it's definitely very stable

[@ahmad1080p]

@@mirrorlessny I did some research and found out that gh5 and g9 are the best, I'm not going Sony again, one I sell mine I will get a gh5 hopefully.

[@mirrorlessny]

@@ahmad1080p yea Panasonic is well known for great stabilization, S5 is interesting

[@nogerboher5266]

The Fujifilms XT-4 and Nikons Z50 are just, simply, 'no brainer' choices. I have a quick, little story to tell about the Z50 specifically; I was shooting WRC with a friend who got us the pass to go with a group of FIA photographers couple months ago in Croatia. My friend and I went with one of them through the forest, to the highest point, sharp corner spot and the guy dropped his D6 2 hours in and couldn't walk back to the car because the stage/race was starting in less than 1 hour, so he borrowed my friends brand new Z50, that he just bought two days earlier... And man... Let me tell you... The pictures he took with that $800 camera almost made me want to sell my XT-4 and all my camera gear, quit photography for good and then question all my life choices. That guy made us realize how good the Z50 is, because an $800 camera isn't supposed to produce better images than my XT-4 that is a pro camera at double the price...

[@JimIBobIJones]

The fuji and Nikon APSC cameras are "Sonys in Disguise" in the sense that they use Sony sensors. The most significant differentiators are price - and more importantly - lens selection as otherwise you are gonna get pretty much the exact same picture quality. The Sony and the Fuji have a much better selection of 1st and 3rd party lens options for their mount systems. The Nikon is pretty terrible by comparison - virtually none of the big lens manufacturers have bothered to support the Z mount, with barely a handful manual lenses from "low end" Chinese brands being available. This is a major dealbreaker. For the APSC format, across all manufacturers, there are major gaps in all 1st party lens options that are filled by 3rd party lens - Sigma in particular does a great job for completing the prime lens lineup.

[@nogerboher5266]

@@JimIBobIJones Your first paragraph is false - it’s a common misconception, it’s actually not a Sony sensor - it’s only manufactured by Sony, the design and engineering of the sensor is done by the companies who have production(manufacturing) contracts with Sony, aka. Nikon, Panasonic, Fuji, DJI and others… Sony only gets the patented blueprints under a strict contract and manufactures their sensors for them at a cheaper cost. Most camera manufacturers have a contract with Sony because Sony has the biggest factory (production) chains out of any other manufacturer in the business, as well as the largest amount of CNC machines for the job - all meaning faster and larger production at a lower cost. And it’s not just camera manufacturers who do this, everyone does this - for example, one of the newer diesel engines in the newer Mercedes A and E class, was manufactured by Renault and VW. Same with BMW, Peugeot, entire VW group and others. Another example; Apples “Made in California” products actually manufacture over 60% of their parts and hardware in Taiwans, Chinas and Thailands factories. Then, another example, Nvidia and AMD both use the exact same factory in China for production of some of their GPU parts. So on and so forth… You can do the same. You can engineer and design an entire house and then have someone else build it for you - and you can do that with anything, the house was just an example. Outsourcing is way more common than you think and allows businesses/manufacturers to drastically lower their production costs.

[@JimIBobIJones]

@@nogerboher5266 it's not like fuji have a proprietary technology though. It's not a case of "pure play" production as you are suggesting but own branding.

[@another_aaron]

Once again, Fuji seems to sweep every other company when it comes to APS-C

[@oneeyedphotographer]

It should, it's the only camera unambiguously for professional photographers.

[@batmo6772]

Yeah dude for about double the price of the Z50, lmao.

[@jazzamsterdam5317]

Also in price lol

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

Fujifilm is winning both the APSC and medium format game.

[@lorenzoamato953]

@@jazzamsterdam5317 Who cares about the prices. We are talking about "best in the format". If you go up in format you need a Sony 7 mk3 to compete with the Xt4, and that's going to be more expensive (plus lenses).

[@Smashingdon]

I can't believe they gave the lowest ranking for image quality for the Z50, just because the sensor is 20MP? It has the best Dynamic range out of all of them, Has high ISO as well since it is a BSI CMOS sensor, and can take 11FPS, much better than the others. And of course the most pleasing RAW files are from Nikon because they have great colors. Just for lack of IBIS, that does not justify a 4th place. I dumped my FUJI X-T20 for the Z50 even though the sensor gave 24MP because I didn't find a huge difference between 20 and 24MP.

[@ThePHtube]

++ I dont belive what I've heard. Canon m6 mii matrix is worse than z50! ISO perfomance is about 1-1.5 stops lower, 32 MPx is too large files. Its not a plus!

[@key-manec7553]

We need a 2022 version and I guess Fujifilm will lead again

[@xray111xxx]

Winner overall Fujifilm. Even with not watching all 1st.

[@xmlthegreat]

Ehh close enough. 3rd in AF and 2nd in battery. Rest all top.

[@artursaizikovics3433]

@@xmlthegreat yeah, i miss sony autofocuss, im considering buying sony for my video work

[@chloescanlon1107]

Well aren’t you just brilliant 🥱

[@Vinterloft]

Not surprising, even the X-S10 beats all those other cameras for $200 less than the Sony, Fuji just has APS-C on lock.

[@artursaizikovics3433]

@@Vinterloft does x-s10 has better autofocus then xt3? Cuz my previous sony a6000 had better autofocus algoritms then my fuji xt3

[@checksix_TC]

To be fair to the other 3 cameras, the XS10 would fit in better with this test. Picking the XT4 is like putting a Porsche with an assortment of family sedans.

[@BartechTV]

This is a comparison of each company's best APS-C mirrorless cameras. Fuji's best APS-C mirrorless camera is the X-T4. It's hardly Fuji's fault that their best APS-C mirrorless camera is so much better than their competitors' best APS-C mirrorless cameras.

[@RP-ms7lu]

The still picture quality in normal situation and best colour ,it is canon m6 mark2

[@harshpatel4158]

Surprising criticism on small Nikon system in the end as DX Z is directly compatible with FX Z & also F mount lens system,more importantly new DX Z body & may be new DX &/or compact affordable FX lenses are already coming this or next month & also 3rd party AF DX lenses by Viltrox have been already announced & coming out next month. This is actually a major expansion point for DX Z. The real question on future & existential crisis should be on EOS M system because canon's future development interest has clearly shifted in RF APS-C now.

[@ionutvlad]

I got Nikon Z50 with Nikkor 16-50mm and Nikkor 50-250mm. For me, as enthusiast photographer (I dont earn money from photography, it is a hobby and not a real job). For me this camera is all I need for the moment. I found it with a discount, was aprox 820 USD with the Nikkor 16-50mm. I like it a lot, I think it is a very good value for money. Yes, I could find something better, but more expensive. I didn't want to pay extra for few better things, for now it satisfies my needs. Very light camera, event with the Nikkor 50-250 lens, perfect for traveling. Yes, it has no IBIS, but if you concentrate a little, you can get great shot in low light. I mean I have shots of waterfalls with the shutter speed at 1/5s handheld and it is perfect, it is a quite long exposure shot. The stabilization of the 16-50 lens is very good. In the end everybody has to chose what needs and I'm happy with my Z50.

[@tayspiderx]

Guys like to see a comparison on compact camera category now that travel is coming back 👍

[@JC-fj7oo]

I almost feel like the fuji 4 is cheating... It's their huge professional top of the line camera that they use to compete with the other companies' full frame offerings and it's really in a different league. It's bulky, it's much more expensive... By the time you're considering the xt4, you're starting to consider the full frames from the other companies. So yes, it's the best apsc, but only because they don't have a full frame. Realistically, someone looking at the other offerings would be considering the xt30 or an x-e4 rangefinder... And you will find that they have most of the issues that the other ones had as the company tries to push customers toward the higher end offerings.

[@johnkarakatsianis7281]

Fujifilm is the king of aps-c cameras. Their cameras have the right size, the right grip and the quality of vids and photos is great

[@myocean3228]

Only wrong price, $1700 X-T4 (APS-C) far more expensive than $999 Canon RP (FF).

[@johnkarakatsianis7281]

@@myocean3228 I don’t think that canon has 4k at 60fps, or slow mo at 240fps….or the profiles that Fuji has….plus it’s ugly af 😂

[@coolcat23]

For some the Pentax K-3 III is the better APS-C camera. They only looked at mirrorless models here, for some reason.

[@johnkarakatsianis7281]

@@coolcat23 the title says “best aps-c mirrorless cameras” so I guess that’s the reason

[@coolcat23]

@@johnkarakatsianis7281 I know what the title says, but a) DPReview could have included all flagship APS-C cameras, and b) more importantly, you just wrote "the king of aps-c cameras." That's what I was referring to.

[@ErikssonTord_2]

Not that surprising that a camera costing almost twice as much as the cheapest in the lineup is better. I do agree that the Z50 seems to be an orphan without a future, possibly made to be a modernized version of the Nikon 1 V3 in size and features, which it manages, barely. The Z50 has a built-in EVF, while the V3 has a detachable, and the V3 has a fraction fewer pixels in the sensor. The last mirrorless the N1 line was the J5 (that has a 20Mp sensor like the Z50). A retro-style APS-C with IBIS should have be running to empty my bank account, but the chances for such a model appearing is very, very, slim.

[@AmbroseLiu]

IMO, the Fujifilm X-T4 has the worse ergonomics because its grip was (as Zoolander would say) made for ants. I'm not a Fuji hater, it's a great camera otherwise. I just wouldn't give it the win in handling with that grip. The X-S10's is better.

[@muttishelfer9122]

Yes, but you can enlarge the grip f.e. with a l bracket with grip. But you can not improve an outdated sensor or a bad battery with add ons :) Anyway, i also wish the X-T4 would have the X-S10 grip.

[@MrCaerbannog]

The Z50 made some kind of sense when they first launched it, but the introduction of the Z5 just took away any reason the Z50 had to exist.

[@musicdefinesgravity]

Z50 has 120fps 1080p, no crop in 4K and although not perfect.. a front facing screen. It's more of a videocentric camera. also it's 500 to 600 euro cheaper with the kit lens (where I live) which is not a small amount of money for most people

[@aditya_gupta]

Nah...z5 is too expensive for me and slightly bigger too. z50 size is perfect for my asian hands

[@danieldougan269]

The Fuji X-T4 and Sony a6600 should have a baby that includes the AF system from the Sony and everything else from the Fuji.

[@professionalpotato4764]

@@danieldougan269 If Sony ever made an XT4 clone with their AF tech, I'm switching. Fuji's features were just too good to ignore, especially for paid jobs. However in terms of lenses... Fuji loses when it comes to price. The new tammy zooms and Sigma f/1.4 trio make the Fuji lenses less appealing.

[@HappyHubris]

The Z50 was DoA with only 2 native APSC lenses, weird quirks, and the weakest sensor of the bunch.

[@RichardoBrit]

11:06 - this was a priceless segment 😂

[@Rykrer]

Agree-- Big Grin! Chris is approaching the incredibly funny comedy of Camera Conspiracies!

[@Ohyehah]

I have to admit I didn't immediately get it when he mentioned the Ford... I was like "Wait so maybe he means like an array of batteries based on that z-type structure?". Only made it funnier in the end :p

[@kidoman7988]

Why will anyone buy a XT-4 for 1699$? Why not a Full frame eos-r at the same price? Dont give me the BS lens cost argument, Fuji lenses are not cheap🙂

[@Wheelly1]

Completely agree with you. M6 II is two times cheaper and has similar photo image quality. Video is better on xt4 but for me even m6ii's 1080p is detailed enough and the colors are great with 22mm pancake (150 usd used)

[@mytravellinfo]

Tony will come up and make Sony the winner and Jerad already said Z50 is the greatest APS-C he has ever seen.

[@Bhatakti_Hawas]

Who are Tony & Jerad ?

[@RizaGunturPrakoso]

@@Bhatakti_Hawas Tony Northtrup and Jared Polin perhaps

[@enrico_passerini]

@@Bhatakti_Hawas I think Gerald Undone

[@wparo]

Who are these?

[@RizaGunturPrakoso]

@@Bhatakti_Hawas just search for them in KZbin

[@CaravanMovies]

sir I want to use canon lenses with Xt-4 body using adapter so in this case does it work perfectly or it has same limitations ?

[@spandsbab]

Fuji for the win! Ditched my EOS RP for the X-T4's baby brother the X-S10 and I made the right choice, the dynamic range alone is a no brainer...

[@AA_fromtexas]

Dynamic range is better on the APS-C than the full frame Canon? Nice

[@spandsbab]

@@AA_fromtexas only on the sensor they used on the EOS RP, it's their cheapest full frame sensor while the apsc sensor on the XS10 is their best... quality over quantity

[@ghalibsworld]

Fujifilm sponsored channel.

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

small note on the Nikon Z50 : you can generally find the Z50 in a package in where you get the FTZ adapter for basically nothing (like less than 100 USD instead of 300), opening the door for all the F mount glass, especially all the AF-S APSC lenses that are cheap and quite frankly very good, not mentionning all the film era stuff. I guess this would have gained to be mentionned since this is an option that Nikon can offer to a lot of people

[@problemat1que]

Yeah, lenses > cameras and especially for size-doesn't-matter pro glass, adapting might be a good way to sweat the sunk cost. Combines great with smaller native glass, to pack two bags for light and portable vs. heavy but high quality. Hope they find a way (and the will) to make more compact APS-C lenses somehow with that ridiculously huge (for APS-C) mount, though Nikon has a terrible track record at producing native APS-C glass.

[@muttishelfer9122]

Big DSLR lenses+ large FTZ Adapter mounted on a small DSLM APS_c is not very attractiv for most people.

[@Mn-xh9ps]

@@muttishelfer9122 yes

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

@@muttishelfer9122 yes, however the Z50 having a large grip, it's probably the better suited mirrorless APSC body to do that. My X-T1 with the same kind of setup often proves a bit uncomfortable

[@thisisbenji90]

@@matthieuzglurg6015 The Z50 actually feels very nice larger glass. Surprisingly, in my hands the Z50 actually is a bit easier to hold than my Z6.

[@jorgensen8]

Strange, when you talk about image quality, like in landscaping, on your own DP review it looks to me like the old a6400 and even my older a6000 is slightly better in both raw and jpg to the Fuji X-T4. And the reason for the tiny 'toy' body is it's soooo nice to travel with. On the menu, to a lot of reviewers it might seem awkward, but once you own the camera for a few weeks it's very simple. Plus as you said, you can program everything in and hardly ever have to refer to it. I do agree about the 'thumb' comments and wish it had more physical dials. But then again, it may require a bigger body.

[@Carolyne_games]

Owning a A6600, I have to say that the battery is definitely the best thing about it. For light to normal use one full battery can go on for days.

[@unn4medfeel1ng]

Fuji has great video sharpness and colors but their AF sucks. I don't regret buying an X-T3, but for the price of X-T4 I think Nikon Z6 does better job.

[@xmlthegreat]

But then you are jumping into an entirely different lens pricing bracket. Z mount is really expensive.

[@unn4medfeel1ng]

@@xmlthegreat but they have native adapter to work with F mount lenses which are cheaper than Fujifilm glass

[@GameFirst]

Just got my M6 mk2 today! I did a lot of research(of course, include DP). Although a6600 has better 4K quality and body anti-shock, but after watching many review by different KZbinr/Vloger, seems it unlimited close to "useless" (someone ever took off the lens, show how different with Panasonic GH than Sony).Plus, A6600 removed Flash. As this type of camera, for newbee like me, no EVF it acceptable(plus function--can keep eye health-_-), but no flash means unacceptable. Many newbee don't have extra flash. Plus, today I order a lot of subs. list: 1. Screen Cover-- JJC, for protecting. 28 RMB 2. Tripod 1--Ulanzi twitchable tripod(function like JOBY, but use rubber, and much cheaper). 50 RMB 3. Tripod 2--Ulanzi metal tripod with Arca pan, and a RGB light set, 250 RMB 4. Camera bag--National Geographic NG W2250, 447RMB a kind of expensive, but Manfrotto's SD-10 bag size too big(for ipad support), and Lowepro's NOVA serise too fat and can't fill an Ipad. A small bag+iPad in is my requirement, so, finally I choosed NG W2250. Although Manfrotto and Lowepro has Rain Cover and use more textile material. lol All expense(with camera set) around 7500 RMB, about 1172 USD. About future plan, I am not planing to buy Canon EF-M 11-22, cause it too expensive. around 3000 RMB. twice of it, I can nearly buy a New model which is going to replace Sony A6400.

[@mahidoes]

When a camera has aps-c and full frame camera in same mount don't invest in their aps-c camera

[@keima1110]

I love smaller grips. Often those camera that you guys love have a grip that is too large for me. I hated those.

[@MinimalWave1982]

good to know i am not the only one, i also prefer compact cams. My G9 was a good choice, but its so biiiiig..

[@leadwhite1249]

100% agree. Sometime you actually want a compact camera that is compact.

[@RonDonson]

I love my X-T4!!!

[@HR-wd6cw]

The only thing I would disagree on is the lens support section. I really think that Sony should have gotten first place in that. Some of their native APS-C lenses are, well, less than desireable (like the kit 16-50 PZ lens) but they do have a lot of third party support (both "official" -- Tamron, Sigma -- and unofficial -- with obscure companies like Meike, Viltrox and Yongnuo for example) and I think that's a huge asset to Sony. So I'd rank them as (1) Sony, (2) Canon EOS M (mainly because they have some native third-party support), (3) Fuji (they have some now, but historically it wasn't much until the past 6-12 months when Tamron started making lenses for Fuji cameras), and lastly (4) Nikon (as Nikon has not opened up the mount to third party officially yet, and most AF lenses are likely reverse engineered to get them to work on the Z system).

[@1BigBucks1]

Capture One is a must for X-Trans ✅

[@ОлегПопов-ь8ж]

Guys, if we take Canon M6 Mark II and Nikon Z50 for comparison, then we need to compare with Sony a6400 and Fujifilm X-T30. Or, if you keep the Sony a6600 and Fujifilm X-T4, compare them to the Canon EOS R and Nikon Z6. Otherwise it will turn out incorrectly.

[@ОлегПопов-ь8ж]

@They Caged Non Are the Sony a6400 and Fujifilm X-T30 full-frame? I mean it is correct to compare cameras of the same level, and you take the $1000 kit cameras and compare them to the $1400-1700 body cameras.

[@tor2919]

Strange comparison with the huge difference in price between these cameras.

[@FortegoLite]

This was a great comparison - I considered all of these cameras in my own purchasing decision. I ended up going for the XS-10; the little brother of the XT-4.

[@Mionwang]

Haven't watched the video yet but I'm gonna say XT-4 would be a no-brainer. edit: I own the a6600 and i haven't used the nikon at all and the other two not extensively. I was kinda surprised to see they put the a6600 in second place lol! I'm quite happy with the camera though the rolling shutter jello in 4k video makes the 4k pretty much unusable for about 60% of the things i shoot. I don't need the electronic shutter so it has been pretty much perfect for stills. I never shoot JPEG with any camera but I absolutely hate sony's JPEG engine, which is quite surprising cuz i really like the natural looking grain in the raw images.

[@DeletedDelusion]

The XT-4 costs almost twice as much as the Canon M6ii or the Nikon Z50. For entry level, that should be a factor too. Especially if you think how much Fuji asks for it's lenses.

[@sharanm5622]

Ignoring the price factor is a major disadvantage for the NIKON. In India, u can get the Z50 way cheaper than the Sony and Fujifilm but more or less similar to the Canon. I own a Z50 and it suits for the type of photography i do.

[@iodean7616]

Just bought m6 II and i love it Thanks canon

[@ArteUltra1195]

I’m going with the m6 Mark II. After some time with the Sony a7 I still kook back at pictures of my old Canon 70D and I just like their look a lot more. Decided to go smaller for travel and the m6 Mark II plus the 11-22 and 32 1.4 is all I need

[@toddm6999]

I don't understand a 2k Fujixt4 cost camera versus 999.00 Nikon...Nikon wins everything for value and price....not really a value based contest.

[@muttishelfer9122]

??

[@toddm6999]

@@muttishelfer9122 ??? Translation XT4 is flagship price. Nikon is entry level prices . Capiche?

[@ThomasHalways]

Aaah, again my favorite, and the one which we use to our best satisfaction, scores _last_ in the eyes of the Gods of KZbin. We love the Nikon Z50. The lenses are fantastic, and sharp so that the results of 50-200 throughout compare to the once $3000 expensive 70-200 f/2.8. Sensor is simply superb. The testers forgot also to mention how fast the Z50 is: 11 frames/sec, that was mere few years ago was only doable with top bodies. The weight and size of the Z50 and 16-50 makes it a perfect "purse size camera." Canon EOS-M has the problem that the lenses will never be interchangeable between RF and EOS-M. So I do not think that this is a recommendable system by any standard, if you also use RF, as I do. One thing I agree upon: Z50 has AF issue in low light. The 50-200 on long end is already f/6.3 and the camera fails to autofocus at dusk. Ok, so we have one field in which we could improve something in a future body. I also would like to mention: We love the z-mount. With its symmetric 4 flanges makes a short throw and the lens change is way simpler than in the asymmetric Canon RF. We also both with my wife prefer the tilt LCD screen over the fully articulated, but that is truly a matter of preference.

[@summonedfist]

The a6000 did 11fps in 2014.

[@muttishelfer9122]

Only 2 APS-C Z lenses is a much bigger Problem, dann missing interchangeability between RF EOS-M. Eos M is also a limited system, but offers many more lenses than nikon.

[@jsfbay1]

ThomasH - Do the Z lenses have VR or does Nikon assume people will eventually step up to an IBIS body? I'm a Nikon user for 50 years now and just discovered I have to buy something lightweight, but I do need some kind of vibration reduction.

[@100forms8]

@@jsfbay1 yes, they have VR

[@guardianobserver6593]

The best camera is the camera that have the more good quality, and budget friendly lenses! Al the rest is for professionals. Is there a similar camera today?????

[@techno_techie2923]

I feel like Fuji really listens to photographers. Every iteration, they make improvements, and I feel like they make cameras for photographers, not just for money.

[@xmlthegreat]

To be clear they make cameras for money, but their thinking is, to optimise the feature set and design of cameras to what customers are asking for.

[@techno_techie2923]

@@xmlthegreat Yes. As I said.

[@techno_techie2923]

@Alf Maggadan R&D and major body mods cost money. And I agree, which is why I got the Z50. It was 1099 with two lenses. Light kit for travel, capable, and they leaked two little primes. But yes, Fuji is listening, which is why they have a loyal following.

[@averobinramos1496]

A6600 may not a perfect fit for our hands, but perfectly suited in gimbals.

[@e3446]

Hos does the X-T4 compare to the Panasonic s5? They’re similar price here at the moment, s5 actually a bit cheaper with the 20-60 lens than the Fuji with 16-80 lens.

[@proksalevente]

Get the s5 or the a7iii, there's a reason canon and nikon are pushing FF.

[@mirrorlessny]

S5 is full frame which is a big deal, you can check cameradecision site for side-by-side spec comparison

[@Filmmakers_N]

Good afternoon, can you please tell me which profile you are using (settings for sharpness, contrast, etc.)?canon m6

[@SatanSupimpa]

At some point Canon will have to kill the M system, is dumb to have aps-c in one mount and full frame in other.

[@erichwiehahn3402]

M50 is their best selling camera. Makes no sense to kill it

[@liviuperisan3674]

No Pentax - No fun.

[@Ranblv]

I don't understand why canon isn't making a 90d twin in RF mount.

[@robmcd]

It’ll be the R7, which will technically replace the 7D line.

[@tankivulture148]

I found area AF-C of my X-T4 trying to lock on the distance it is focusing, so jumping subjects are not easily focused. In video is even worse, it's fast, but with most lenses quite jumpy and only has a single point, area 7x7 or 5x5 would be so much better for video

[@animaxxx4429]

Love Fuji cameras to the core of my heart, only gripe is mediocre VIDEO AF and lack of Video focused lenses. But if you are a photographer, don't even look at anything else imo !!

[@professionalpotato4764]

I've given up really. Pretend you bought a Panasonic but with better colours. Not spending any money on Fuji lenses, I only use adapted lenses for video. (Apart from my baby 35mm f/2 for street photos).

[@animaxxx4429]

@@professionalpotato4764 Indeed. I got a bit of hope when Fujifilm opened the mount last year but not even a single lens is released by any third party manufacturer yet. Honestly I might sell my X-S10 ( although I really don't want to) if the rumored Sony ZV E-10 gets new colors and ACTIVE STAb ( of A7SIII ). Pairing that with the brand new Tamron 11-20 f2.8 and Sigma 30mm and 56mm f1.4 will be good deal.

[@problemat1que]

@@animaxxx4429 covid is not your typical time period. Manufacturers are waiting out supply issues (high component prices, high salaries for workers afraid of coming in to work) to hit time market conditions. If you want it all, and want it right now, it's a good idea to switch but you'll lose money and might find that what you're waiting for was just around the corner. Sigma is slated to release XF mount lenses within the year (6 months left), and Fujifilm are preparing second-gen lenses for their most popular focal lengths to get ready for their upcoming high-resolution sensor cameras in 2022.

[@animaxxx4429]

@@problemat1que I follow Fuji rumors and out of all the rumored lenses, none excites me. There aren't wide primes who AF good. No fast wide zooms in budget. And regarding Covid, it is for all companies and Tamron and Sony are releasing lenses like crazy. Heck even Viltrox.

[@jlwilliams]

Fujifilm offers two premium-grade video lenses in X mount. The downside is that they're priced like premium-grade video lenses, but they're there.

[@senatorfrisbee]

Lady at 4:29 wants a z50

[@HesselFolkertsma]

Jordan, Chris: in a future video, can you guys also talk about Nikon’s JPG color profile editors? I think it’s an interesting feature no one talks about, you can literally create your own profiles and load them into your camera. Neat! There’s even film simulation profiles out there.

[@antzpantz]

10:35 "2nd place, X-T4"... but the video text says 3rd place! 😁

[@rwilifeandtravel]

Great comparison review. I think Sony really need to update their line of APS-C cameras with a revised body design, faster readout sensor, and 10bit video capture capability. Then again is Sony trying to determine whether it is still worth investing in the APS-C format? I'm happy shooting with the format so I hope it stays around.

[@jsfbay1]

Yeah, I don't see a newer small-body APC-C than the a6600, which came out in August 2019, and today is November 26, 2001. I have the same question. (And I don't count the ZV-E10 - it's for vloggers, which is great, but it's not an improvement to the a6600. Maybe they'll show an a6700 at CES in a month or two (although I don't know if Sony ever introduces new cameras at CES.) Let's hope so!

[@SMGJohn]

After Samsung NX1, and been trying out various other cameras because of my work, I come to realise that Samsung did a do or die product, whereas everyone else are in the same category as car manufacturers in that they do miniscule improvements and new "look" to fool consumers into buying their latest and greatest, they purposely gimp their cameras just so that they can "fix" it with the next generation. I am sure every camera manufacturer could create the ultimate super camera like Samsung did, but then what? They would have nothing to sell to you for another 5 or even 10 years until they can create the next super camera. This is reality with free market economics, its not matter if they can or should, its about "is it profitable?" Only under resource driven economy would such a camera make sense because you would want to reduce waste and make something that last for long time, so cramming such camera with every technology in the world would be beneficial and only charge for the resources needed to create it as there is no profit motive involved.

[@rahulkm9747]

You guys should make a video about pocketable interchangeable system. Combo of smallest camera with pancake lenses, something like that. The main criteria should just be that you can put it in your pocket.

[@xmlthegreat]

Fujifilm X-E4 with a 27 f2.8, in terms of stuff that is recent. Smallest, is the Pentax Q series. But the last Q body came out in 2014.

[@rahulkm9747]

@@xmlthegreat there's also canon eos mX00 with 22mmf2 pancake

[@problemat1que]

Yeah, depending on focal length preference it's gonna be either Fuji of Canon M. I wonder why they can't "re-imagine" each other's lens designs to provide a little bit of choice in the pancake form factor. 40mm equivalent is a beautiful normal focal length but 35mm equivalent is way more versatile in tighter situations.

[@elinavance3476]

fuji xe4? or some olympus epl models if you like mft.

[@a55tech]

fuji outta they minds charging FF prices for their APS-C gear

[@mirrorlessny]

yea XT4 is very expensive for apsc, but it's a worthy choice if you got lots of fuji glass

[@SociPsych]

As a Z50 user (previous owner of Sony A6500 & A7R2, Fuji xt10 & XT3, and multiple Lumix cameras), there are a few categories that you missed: 1) overall weight/compactness which fantastic for the Z50; 2) lens selection if you are welling to adapt Nikon F or Canon EF; 3) ease of use (menus, camera app, etc) and again I think the Z50 better than the Sony and Fuji in this regard - - dare I say nearly as good as Lumix cameras. I bought an adapter for EF/EFS lenses that fully supports auto focus for less that $60, and the lens selection is fantastic. Give the price, specs, ease of use, and my needs (excellent images, very reasonable 4K, super lightweight, good lens selection). For more professional work, I use a FF Lumix camera. However, for travel, street photography, light video work, the Z50 is fantastic.

[@RichieColemanSr]

Great video. Is the Fuji XT4 a good camera for beginners?

[@bearbearingston7696]

Like mentioned previously, price becomes a factor at some point because the cost of a XT-4 is the same or even a bit higher as a Z6, RP or A7III.

[@professionalpotato4764]

There's always the XS-10. Btw RP has dynamic range worse than m43, the sensor crops to almost a m43 size in 4k, a G9 or GH5 would do better. Z6 or A7iii don't have 8 bit so for hybrid shooters it's a dealbreaker. I bought the XT4 mainly for video, but in terms of photography it's not too far off. It also has 15fps burst which none of the FF cameras can match unless it's the R5/6, A9 or A1.

[@bearbearingston7696]

@@professionalpotato4764 Well, i did think of it mainly as a photographer so taking into account hybrid necessities then sure the XT-4 seems plausible like you said, but if i had to record video i would use mainly 10 bit just as i use RAW rather than JPG. I've edited XT-4 files and honestly i find them on par with the RP and inferior to the Z6, i don't see any advantages for image quality in the Fuji regardless of time processing the files although the burst rate is a consideration, it's low-key a sports camera because its AF is very good when not on video.

[@planetfun85]

@@professionalpotato4764 ,go home with your super expensive compromise !

[@animaxxx4429]

@@planetfun85 lol , keep using that RP/M50 fanboy. It's good for you. 😂

[@weiyang6417]

Fujifilm without even watching

[@LW-qb2bx]

I'm always impressed by how you integrate B-Roll from past episodes. I'd love to see a behind the scenes episode about how you shoot and edit the show. Really well made!

[@gtaliano]

CaNikon are killing their APSC lineup on purpose... As a Canon APSC shooter if i try to jump to APSC mirrorless I think I'll have to look elsewhere... FF is out of reach even used (mostly for lens prices).

[@problemat1que]

Yeah, for each camera I buy, I buy three to five lenses. Definitely worth doing the math for planned lens purchases over the five years after the camera purchase (those trips we have planned to areas with epic landscapes, awesome wildlife, and the occasional portrait or macro photo).

[@HappyHubris]

I looked at upgrading within APSC from my A6400 and concluded that the best APSC option was...just going FF with a used A7RIII for the price of a new X-T4. FF is eroding the APSC market and killing these premium APSC bodies. Except the Z50, which basically offed itself with neglect.

[@jacobcarandang8618]

Debated this path but I went with used xt3 for $700 and never looked back.

[@Molybdan42]

Price is irrelevant to me, I chose APSC because of size and weight adantage

[@Remmerboy]

If i wanted a body the size of the XT-4, i would go for the Sony A7. It's even the same price range as the A7m3

[@mirrorlessny]

isn't it amazing how full frame a7C is smaller & lighter than apsc Xt4 😬

[@zacharymoran7596]

I say this as someone who ended up going with the A6600, but the XT-4 truly is an incredible camera. My specific use case prioritized size and battery life. I was already coming from the A6300, I’d have to replace my lenses (and in any case, the A6600 was cheaper than the XT-4). And I guess I had already committed to the A7RIV for a full frame, which plays really well with APS-C lenses. But if I was only ever going to get an APS-C camera, and could start over, Fuji. I’d love to eventually see a professional grade Sony APS-C, like a hypothetical A7IV body with an APS-C sensor. But until then, the XT-4 is seriously great.