The 5 Greatest HEAVY BOMBERS in Star Wars Legends

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We break down the 5 greatest heavy bombers from Star Wars Legends on today's Star Wars Lore video!
From the K-Wing to the B-Wing to the Tie Punisher, a heavy-bomber is a (usually) slow and powerful fighter meant to take on capital ships.
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@Gigas0101
@Gigas0101 6 жыл бұрын
I love the K-wing, and when people don't believe that the damn thing packed a quad turbolaser. "That's a capital ship weapon!" "That's the K-Wing, baybay!"
@miqvPL
@miqvPL 3 жыл бұрын
it doesn't make any sense though, look at Star Wars Cutaway: DBY-827 Heavy Dual Turbolaser Turret or at the Disney's All Terrain MegaCaliber Six crossection. Look at how much space is required to install a turbolaser on a ship. I am aware that these are both heavy turbolasers but it still makes zero sense that a 16m long ship can have a reactor and sfoils able to handle the power required and venting ability to successfully use a quad turbolaser. Even quad heavy laser cannons would be unlikely but more in a realm of possibility.
@andrewrichards312
@andrewrichards312 3 жыл бұрын
The K-Wing's best asset is the SLAM System. Take it away and it's essentially a glorified Y-Wing.
@michaelramon2411
@michaelramon2411 6 жыл бұрын
"K-wings solve all problems." - Commander Marius Vahle
@andrewrichards312
@andrewrichards312 3 жыл бұрын
Only because of the SLAM system - precisely why the Missile Boat should have gotten the second slot in this.
@jayburn00
@jayburn00 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if it had a hyperdrive...
@minicle426
@minicle426 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from the Sequel Trilogy. :P
@thestarwarsmusiccomposer3491
@thestarwarsmusiccomposer3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayburn00 it would be too heavvy
@logannichols2605
@logannichols2605 6 жыл бұрын
K wing definatly earned the top spot easily.
@masterm8664
@masterm8664 6 жыл бұрын
@Itnetlolor TLJ bombers don't make sense either lol. How do the bombs even fall in space? Where the hell is the gravity coming from?
@aurorathearcticwolf4243
@aurorathearcticwolf4243 6 жыл бұрын
The bombers have there own gravity and also MAGNETS!
@gabutman6144
@gabutman6144 4 жыл бұрын
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 still stupidly design ship tho lol
@aurorathearcticwolf4243
@aurorathearcticwolf4243 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Angkasa they were based off of the B-17 suprisingly but oh gosh did Disney really mess up
@Chujoi0
@Chujoi0 4 жыл бұрын
Master Vengco , the planet nearby, it seems.
@alexandrecredidiooliveira7176
@alexandrecredidiooliveira7176 6 жыл бұрын
"You can't blow something up if you die first"....... I think some A Wing at Endor will disagree with you. Yeah he hit the command bridge before of destruction but the Super Star Destroyer explode later technically he died first :)
@johnpatz8395
@johnpatz8395 3 жыл бұрын
The Kamikazes from WW2 would seem to contradict that statement as well.
@cloudcleaver23
@cloudcleaver23 6 жыл бұрын
I love the K-wing. It's supremely practical, looks cool, and it follows the "looks like a letter" paradigm in a way that's just as good as the X-wing.
@bradhedgehog12
@bradhedgehog12 6 жыл бұрын
The missile boat is way more then just a heavy bomber. And I always admired the b wing. Wish I could fly the k wing
@andrewrichards312
@andrewrichards312 3 жыл бұрын
The Missile Boat is far superior to the B-Wing. Yes the B-Wing has better beam weapons than the Missile Boat, but good luck using them against a Missile Boat with its SLAM system properly utilised. In fact I would argue that, precisely because of the SLAM system, the Missile Boat is a superior starfighter to every other starfighter in the Star Wars Universe, with the exception of the K-Wing.
@bradhedgehog12
@bradhedgehog12 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrichards312 No kidding. And yeah I like the Missile Boat too.
@andrewrichards312
@andrewrichards312 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradhedgehog12 My response was more in the context of how this video barely even touched on the SLAM system when IMHO it's arguably the most cirtical system on any starfighter in the Star Wars Universe and it really does make anything without it a second-tier starfighter - even the TIE Defender.
@bradhedgehog12
@bradhedgehog12 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrichards312 no kidding In Star Wars Tie Fighter I used that ship
@Lrdnqustr
@Lrdnqustr 3 жыл бұрын
The star wars equivalent of the A-10. Space brrrrrrrrrt
@MrDrProfessor4
@MrDrProfessor4 6 жыл бұрын
I know you'll get to this in the finale of the Vong sub-series. Won't stop me from going through the motions though. Anyways: Can you breakdown what is by far the largest space battle in the entire franchise? *The* *Battle* *of* *Yuuzhan'tar!* I have made this request: Ninty-one times. Part of me *wants* this to hit one-hundred.
@seanmcgrath3826
@seanmcgrath3826 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he'll get to it eventually. And I hope you do get to one-hundred.
@matthieuriollet9331
@matthieuriollet9331 6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, he wait you to top one hundred to do it ^^
@MrDrProfessor4
@MrDrProfessor4 6 жыл бұрын
That would be cool, but... I've noticed that he hasn't done a Yuuzhan Vong battle breakdown in a while.
@Jinksy5
@Jinksy5 6 жыл бұрын
Would love that book club and am looking forward to the thrawn trilogy
@cyanavaricegaming8318
@cyanavaricegaming8318 6 жыл бұрын
This is why I LOVE legends, you can have lists/similar videos to this, there just isnt enough craft in canon for a list like this
@pnk9639
@pnk9639 6 жыл бұрын
from the Moment you talked About the b-wing i knew the k-wing was on Nr.1
@inkognito5945
@inkognito5945 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be great to have a heavy bomber, who could turn invisible? Imagine how devastating it is if a bomber suddenly appears out of nowhere and unleash the entire payload in the bridge of a capitalship, only to disappear a moment later.
@nightwolfnordberg9476
@nightwolfnordberg9476 Жыл бұрын
That is to op but i wish it was real
@vuppet5684
@vuppet5684 6 жыл бұрын
The Y wing is just my favourite due to the backstory, and how it came to be
@boracaybecker175
@boracaybecker175 6 жыл бұрын
YES! Finally the K-Wing gets some well needed recognition.
@Seahawksfan-pz6jo
@Seahawksfan-pz6jo 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you EckahartsLadder! You are the only reason I love and know Star Wars.
@myopinionarchive7121
@myopinionarchive7121 6 жыл бұрын
Hi EckhartsLadder this was a interesting video i like learning about ships i didn't know about. i hope you are having a nice day/night sincerely a big fan and small youtuber:)
@The56thEmpire
@The56thEmpire 6 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a book club. I've always wanted to get round to reading more of the huge library of legends books that exist, but it's hard to know where to start. I think a book club would provide a great solution for that, allowing relative newcomers to get started on exploring the best legends has to offer, and allowing experienced readers to relive their favourite books. Please let us know more about this!
@lieutenantnomad9198
@lieutenantnomad9198 6 жыл бұрын
T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing
@Galen55
@Galen55 6 жыл бұрын
TIE Defender beats both.
@CS-nq9sq
@CS-nq9sq 6 жыл бұрын
Calvin Ackermann Actually, no the Tie/DF was outdated by the time the E-wing was created, also the E-wing was made to take on Tie avenger's and Tie Hunters, Equal to if not better than Tie Defenders...
@HalfDemonInuyasha
@HalfDemonInuyasha 6 жыл бұрын
TIE Avenger is unquestionably inferior to the TIE Defender
@Galen55
@Galen55 6 жыл бұрын
@@CS-nq9sq he did a TIE/D vs E wing. E wing lost at 9 1/2 out of 10 if I'm not mistaken. Defenders were more maneuverable than hunters and avengers, better shields too. The hunter was ALMOST as fast though. And neither came close to firepower levels.
@Galen55
@Galen55 6 жыл бұрын
@@HalfDemonInuyasha aye vod.
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and these heavy bombers are cool and awesome. My favorite is the k wing.
@horseshoethief242
@horseshoethief242 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorites of the recent videos. The script was really good and I didn’t know about some of these fighters.
@PressAPod
@PressAPod 6 жыл бұрын
Just throwing this out there because i want a new project and I've enjoyed your content. I have both podcasting experience and basic literacy. Currently reading the x-wing series.
@PremierRikLatyeskov
@PremierRikLatyeskov 6 жыл бұрын
I used to play X-Wing Miniatures with my one friend and he had a K-Wing and it was absolutely insane in that tabletop game lol
@scheisseaufpasswort
@scheisseaufpasswort 6 жыл бұрын
Id make a mix out of the k wing and the missile boat. Nice Video i didnt know ablut the h60.
@breadisyummy
@breadisyummy 6 жыл бұрын
An Eckhartsladder video is always a good end to the day
@jonmcgee6987
@jonmcgee6987 6 жыл бұрын
I'm currently re-reading the Heir To The Empire Trilogy, on Dark Force Rising. Didn't feel ready to tackle the Hunt For Red October novel yet. A Star Wars reading club for your channel is a really good idea.
@tba113
@tba113 6 жыл бұрын
I knew this day would come. Somehow, some day, I knew if I watched this channel long enough, it would happen. I... I _agree,_ with every single point and placement on this list. I need a minute, guys, this is a bit overwhelming. (Love the Legends lore, Eckhart, and sign me up for the book club!)
@corydorton2660
@corydorton2660 6 жыл бұрын
I definitely love that idea I would love to read and talk about the old legend book with you guys
@brendanmelody1075
@brendanmelody1075 6 жыл бұрын
Legends Book Club seems like a cool idea! Ive been looking to start reading them so youll def see me there!
@Gigas0101
@Gigas0101 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely wish the B-Wing was better suited for dogfighting, the rotating frame and sheer firepower of the thing makes me happy. The K-wing, though... Quad Turbolaser. That's all you really need.
@100_American_Bison
@100_American_Bison 6 жыл бұрын
Spartans vs N7 or Pilots (Titanfall) and UNSC Marines vs System Alliance Marines
@DragonSoul621
@DragonSoul621 6 жыл бұрын
i feel that depending on the soldier they could beat the spartans, specially some biotics since i dont think spartans have ever dealt with something that can cause mass mas distortions or singularities at will, so at range my money is on N7 biotics but close quarters the spartans take the win
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 6 жыл бұрын
Spartans would when. Personally I thin the Spartans could pretty easily beat any franchises human faction except WH40K Astartes. That is personal opinion. If they do not have the armor to withstand and/or the firepower to takedown, they lose to they guy(s) that do. Also in Lore Spartans are just unreal in their speed, strength, endurance, durability, accuracy, and so on. They are weaponized humans, not merely trained soldiers.
@SpectrumWarrior1
@SpectrumWarrior1 6 жыл бұрын
Unarmored Space Marine vs Armored Spartan II Round 1 The Space Marine gets a standard bolter and the spartan gets any UNSC weapon that won't one shot the space marine. Round 2 The Space Marine gets a chain sword and the spartan II gets a energy sword.
@SpectrumWarrior1
@SpectrumWarrior1 6 жыл бұрын
Spartans win
@survivor686
@survivor686 6 жыл бұрын
Systems Alliance Marines would beat the UNSC marines hands down: they have superior armour (full body ballstic mesh, plus ceramic armour and kinetic barriers/shields), superior weaponry (rapid-fire mass-accelerator canons even down to their side-arms), they have superior conditioning (the ME lore states that the average Alliance service-members undergoes gene therapy for improved strength and stamina) N7 Vs Spartan: That would be a tough fight. Both have technology and training that are roughly on par, though the average N7 would have access to gear that could short-circuit/overload the Spartan's gear (disruptor ammo, overload-pulse, arc-grenades), or hit them with the force of a freight-train (auto-tracking concussive rounds), or turn them into a fireball (see every explosive combo ever). It would be a close one, but I'd say the N7 would would beat the Spartan, as long as he avoided getting into a hand-to-hand brawl. Titanfall pilot: They'd just kill everyone with that damn Smart Pistol.
@glory2christcmj702
@glory2christcmj702 6 жыл бұрын
The Legends Book/Reading club sounds like a great idea! I've read The Old Republic: Revan, I'm on The Last Command of The Thrawn Trilogy and then going to read the Darth Bane Trilogy next, I think it is a great idea!
@Shadowhunt005
@Shadowhunt005 6 жыл бұрын
Love the reading club idea and would like to hear more about it from you. I've got a lot of the older Star wars books myself that I need to read through after getting them from car boot sales and charity shops.
@trentsolo1883
@trentsolo1883 6 жыл бұрын
The Legends Genius Eckhartsladder
@ramokhan
@ramokhan 6 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a reading clup and you can have gests to talk about the book
@thomas.02
@thomas.02 6 жыл бұрын
The reading club could be expanded into colloquium-like podcasts (with or without a livestream Q and A component) which would be a nice addition to the type of videos you already do so well :D
@drp1bb856
@drp1bb856 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video, and the reading club sounds like a good idea.
@ericschmidt8238
@ericschmidt8238 6 жыл бұрын
What was that art of something like a super ARC-170?
@anthonyanderson1367
@anthonyanderson1367 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It was the PTB-625 planetary bomber.
@FishGuyTy
@FishGuyTy 6 жыл бұрын
PTB-625 planetary bomber
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had the same question- thanks repliers!
@JustAPandemic
@JustAPandemic 6 жыл бұрын
A book club sounds like a great idea. My favorite part of reading is discussing it.
@brucejedilee5290
@brucejedilee5290 6 жыл бұрын
The Yuuzhan Vong vs the Covenant
@lieutenantnomad9198
@lieutenantnomad9198 6 жыл бұрын
The Vong kinda stomp.
@TheFMaster96
@TheFMaster96 6 жыл бұрын
I would like the book club idea I've aways wanted to get into the extended lore of star wars and you are a big factor as to why I do.
@lukesearle1302
@lukesearle1302 6 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the book club, I enjoyed the Thrawn Trilogy. However my first star wars book was The Truce At Barkura and thats what got me into Star Wars, more than the films in fact.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 6 жыл бұрын
Macross Frontier era defence fleet ( of frontier fleet spec but no colony ships themselves) plus SMS strike force vs Imperial Fleet at the Battle of Endor( minus death star 2) legends.
@thunberbolttwo3953
@thunberbolttwo3953 6 жыл бұрын
no.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 6 жыл бұрын
@@thunberbolttwo3953 yes.
@thunberbolttwo3953
@thunberbolttwo3953 6 жыл бұрын
Bary Bend NO.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 6 жыл бұрын
@@thunberbolttwo3953 yes because it would be a fun to see him do something new.
@thunberbolttwo3953
@thunberbolttwo3953 6 жыл бұрын
Barry bend not enough information or interest in it.
@fallout5578
@fallout5578 6 жыл бұрын
Would love to get back into reading books about starwars used to read them allthe time when i was younger
@QA-ut7dd
@QA-ut7dd 6 жыл бұрын
Book club is a great idea. Legends deserves more recognition 👌👌
@complex314i
@complex314i 6 жыл бұрын
Video suggestion: in all your vs. episodes no-one ever won against the Flood. You should do "What sci-fi factions from any universe could defeat the Flood?"
@nobleman9393
@nobleman9393 6 жыл бұрын
Fractions from Planetside 2
@GAdmThrawn
@GAdmThrawn 6 жыл бұрын
Having started to thoroughly read through the New Republic and Legacy eras I would love to join in the Star Wars Legends reading club.
@Neptune0404
@Neptune0404 6 жыл бұрын
(Apparently not so) Quick genuine question. Are the bombers from The Last Jedi really that badly designed? They get a lot of shit for apparently being a massive downgrade, but they are clearly just the heaviest heavy bombers out there, considering how a single bomber was able to take out a dreadnought. And while the open bomb bay is a clear disadvantage, they were also clearly heavily armed and would probably serve the rebellion well. Their use against the Mandator was clearly simply a very risky attack, they were in over their head and it wasn't really the bombers fault (which I have seen so many comments claim) Just to make it clear, I'm not defending the movie as a whole, it has too many major flaws for me to do so. But I thought the bombers were fairly cool and believe this is just a case of people hating the movie and therefore looking for things to call bad. so yeah, long story short, were the bombers really that bad?
@Michael_Rocker
@Michael_Rocker 6 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see this question get answered. Imo I thought they were pretty shitty.
@yeetspageet6707
@yeetspageet6707 6 жыл бұрын
The bombers themselves were not bad, but they weren’t the right ship for the job. I see those bombers more suited to a planetary bombardment role, in which they would do very well, but in episode 8 something like a b wing would probably be the better choice, but I don’t think the resistance had any available at the time.
@SultanFilm
@SultanFilm 6 жыл бұрын
The bombers normally aren't meant for the way they were used. As the poster said before me, they are meant for bunker bursting and other roles. If you use them in the way they are meant for, then they do their job. But in the context they were used, it was set up to fail. Poe used them in the worst possible way.
@michaeld.uchiha9084
@michaeld.uchiha9084 6 жыл бұрын
Nah they were designed like the B17. And this bombers got theyre asses kicked over germany, only the P51 mustang long range fighter minimized the losses a little. Without fighter support every heavy bomber is toast.
@michaeld.uchiha9084
@michaeld.uchiha9084 6 жыл бұрын
@@epektasis242 Y Wing bombs fall too. Star wars physics dont work like in real, Maybe magnetic.
@nicholaswarne7916
@nicholaswarne7916 6 жыл бұрын
K-WING FOR THE WIN WWWOOO!!! Love the k-wing it's an awesome looking ship.
@glennmoore6968
@glennmoore6968 6 жыл бұрын
I like all of your video series. They've been interesting and some have brought things I'd forgotten about or didn't know. Keep up the good work. I'd potentially be interested in the book club. I'm currently attempting to read the "Aftermath" series...... Though I did get the Thrawn trilogy because I read the new version of Thrawn. (I originally skipped the trilogy back in the day because I didn't like Tim Zahn writing, but I'm going to read them soon.)(If I can get through Aftermath or throw them away. Lol) Thanks
@michaelcrawford3663
@michaelcrawford3663 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that h-60 looks like it would be hard to hit if you didn’t have a good angle on it. Love it.
@jeffreycarman2185
@jeffreycarman2185 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@ezachleewright2309
@ezachleewright2309 4 жыл бұрын
H-60 Tempest: It's great, we love it Twin-Pod Cloud Car: Disgusting, we hate it
@BroadwayNPO
@BroadwayNPO 6 жыл бұрын
If there's to be a book series, I hope to see plenty of timeline variation so it doesn't drag on. Or perhaps alternate between canon/legends every other book reading. Looking forward to the project and would love to be involved.
@Bisexual_Sovereign
@Bisexual_Sovereign 6 жыл бұрын
Captain Shack vs Admiral Ecks (Attempt no.2)
@nsadrone1448
@nsadrone1448 6 жыл бұрын
Yes plz
@insertmemorableusernameher6795
@insertmemorableusernameher6795 6 жыл бұрын
Dont list attempts
@Bisexual_Sovereign
@Bisexual_Sovereign 6 жыл бұрын
insert memorable username here Ok sry
@ryancarrell3186
@ryancarrell3186 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jbg9391
@jbg9391 6 жыл бұрын
nice idea. keep us updated.
@ketvisker
@ketvisker 6 жыл бұрын
The idea of SW book club is actually cool. For a while i wanted to start reading legends books but i just didn't know where to start or they weren't available for my country.
@nuclearjanitors
@nuclearjanitors 6 жыл бұрын
Should do a video on the Skipray BlastBoat...that ship is a beast.
@crazedlegofanatic
@crazedlegofanatic 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’ve been subbed since 3k and your quality has improved yet it’s still just as interesting and cool
@snnrfnficjnsnsamsmddkzopa
@snnrfnficjnsnsamsmddkzopa 6 жыл бұрын
crazedlegofanatic same
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 6 жыл бұрын
Eckharts Ladder is awesome
@tTaseric
@tTaseric 6 жыл бұрын
I know it's a legends only video but the MG-100 Star Fortress would wipe the floor with these things
@saltykrug
@saltykrug 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the firepower and the versatility of the B-Wing in the expansion for X-Wing vs Tie Fighter back in the 90s. I don't know how it compares to the newer K-Wing. The K Wing lacking a hyper drive is a problme but for raw fire power, it does beat out the B Wing. The B Wing can dog fight though. It wouldn't top that spot but it can defend itself and especially when escorted. I would like to play the K Wing in a game to see how well the 2 turrets would peel fighters off of its own back. Those are my 2 that do the job the best.
@Myuutsuu85
@Myuutsuu85 6 жыл бұрын
So many comments about "i want this!" and "i want that!" How about making a comment about the current video, instead of allways just demanding? Very nice work here. Nice to see certain crafts, that i only know from the Battlegrounds game, and from TIE Fighter.
@corydorton2660
@corydorton2660 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video keep up the good work and do you think we will see bombers come back into episode 9
@hanifloka130
@hanifloka130 6 жыл бұрын
I was worried that the TIE Punisher/Interdictor would not make it.. but it did yaaay!!
@rafaelnishizumi6330
@rafaelnishizumi6330 6 жыл бұрын
Talk about the "New Class Modernization Project", I want hear your take on them.
@davidhamer7820
@davidhamer7820 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love a book club. Great idea.
@mangofett927
@mangofett927 4 жыл бұрын
I do like the missile boat. Kind of more like an assault gunship or support craft than a starfighter
@demon_slayer3242
@demon_slayer3242 6 жыл бұрын
The book club sounds like a great idea man
@spiritvdc5109
@spiritvdc5109 5 жыл бұрын
The K-Wing is probably one of my favorite starfighters in Star Wars, its massive array of ordinance slung under the wings makes it look like a suped-up A-10 Warthog, the kind of ship that just screams "I'm going to turn you and everything within a square mile of you into a crater" xDD
@Blinks77
@Blinks77 6 жыл бұрын
You missed out the full name of the Missile Boat. "King Hell God Emperor Starfighter of Death"
@andrewrichards312
@andrewrichards312 3 жыл бұрын
Glad someone else gets it. The SLAM system is the most underrated starfighter system in existence in the Star Wars Universe and the Missile Boat was so badass that the Emperor had ti shelved while it was still in the field testing stage, until after the Battle of Endor, because he feared what the Rebels could do with them if they were able to mass-produce them. It's really sad just how many Star Wars fans aren't even aware of its existence.
@Blinks77
@Blinks77 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrichards312 Well, my thinking has rather advanced in the time. Basically though, for the best of the best. The absolute elites you're better off with defenders, x-wings and such. Wedge, Luke, and the like can place a cannon bolt through a view screen. For everyone else? Missile spam levels the playing field hilariously.
@andrewrichards312
@andrewrichards312 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blinks77 Based on what you've said here, I'd question your definition of "advanced". It doesn't matter how good an elite pilot might be; the cannons on a starfighter are always going to have a limited range, far shorter than that required for a missile lock. The fact is that the SLAM allows a pilot of a Missile Boat to get just close enough to get a missile lock, unleash their payload and then fall back outside of even enemy missile range if they've managed to launch a missile at them at the same time. That's the thing here, the SLAM really does create an uneven playing field, where range really does become killer. The only way around it would be if you were to increase the range of both a ship's cannons and their targeting system to exceed that of the SLAM's range. Have you ever played TIE Fighter and experienced the SLAM system in dogfighting and combat firsthand, or are you simply basing your opinion on the SLAM and its effect on the battlefield on more detached observations?
@gamersinacontainer
@gamersinacontainer 6 жыл бұрын
These ships are awesome!
@soumyajyotimukherjee4752
@soumyajyotimukherjee4752 6 жыл бұрын
A video on Mass effect Ship weapons please. As for the book club, great idea.
@wraithleader4559
@wraithleader4559 6 жыл бұрын
A Legends Book Club would be awesome. I would try to be a part of it :)
@trevorturner5457
@trevorturner5457 Жыл бұрын
I just finished the first book in the thrown trilogy. Love the idea of a book club
@joshuapurdy7065
@joshuapurdy7065 6 жыл бұрын
Where is our cas assault carrier overview video?
@tTaseric
@tTaseric 6 жыл бұрын
not here
@b.w.8115
@b.w.8115 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Love the legends books. I have nearly 120 of them. But only in german😅
@vermas4654
@vermas4654 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if in star wars 8 we had K-Wings instead of whatever that resistance bomber was supposed to be
@andrewrichards312
@andrewrichards312 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been less of a beat down than if the Empire had mass-produced TIE Defenders and Missile Boats at the Battle of Endor.
@Nero_studios
@Nero_studios 6 жыл бұрын
Hi eck, how is your small baby?
@richardstephens5720
@richardstephens5720 6 жыл бұрын
a book club sounds like fun. get to dust off all my old volumes
@cominguponinfra-red3038
@cominguponinfra-red3038 6 жыл бұрын
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (347th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
@hafor2846
@hafor2846 6 жыл бұрын
Topics like that always makes me wonder: Is Star Wars a depiction of WW2, or is it an eternally frozen WW2? The OT gives the impression of a WW2 world (fighters becoming prominent but dreadnoughts still being prominent). You have dogfights and fighter aces and the incredible destructive power of lone fighters/bombers. It always seemed like a parallel to historical development, where enormous fleets of battleships became obsolete and carriers became the new tool to project power. On the other hand, both PT and ST have extensive dreadnoughts and carriers. If Star Wars really progessed, the Empire would have used the Venator, built some super-heavy carriers and concentrated on building better fighters. But they don't. Which leads me to believe that Star Wars is just magically frozen. Sure, dogfights are cool and showing a little fighter destroying a huge superdreadnought is David vs Goliath for modern times, but it also shows that Star Wars is less of an organic universe and more a background to show cool storiy archs on. Which robs it a bit of immersion/coolness to be honest. Which leads me back to the actual topic. Heavy bombers worked for a while, because the shifting circumstances opened a quick window of opportunity. The Boing Flying Foetress worked because of the ever changing circumstances of a world war, not because they were inherently superior. And even they had to shift from day-time raids to night raids. Whereas modern strategic bombers are less focused on being heavy (because a nuke isn't that heavy) and much more focused on stealth (because AA is much deadlier). But Star Wars simply ignores that. Instead of going more fighter focused, they just buid bigger dreadnoughts. Instead of building stealthier or quicker bombers, they build slower and heavier ones. It makes actual comparisons of combat effectiveness impossible, because it lacks internal logic.
@anthonyanderson1367
@anthonyanderson1367 6 жыл бұрын
It's a bit of a mix of WW2 and Vietnam(at least the OT is). The reason why the Empire decided not to make the Venator the mainstay ship was because it didn't fit the Tarkin Doctrine. Basically it wasn't scary enough and didn't hold enough weapons. "rule through fear of force, rather than through force itself." While the Venator was an awesome(in my opinion) force projector like you said, it wasn't really meant to be a battleship.
@hafor2846
@hafor2846 6 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyanderson1367 I get that. But that still lacks progress. E.g. Germany did not care much about carriers with their only carrier getting postponed further and further. So I could see the Empire being mired in a Tarkin-doctrine show-off with every moff wanting more and bigger battleships. And the rebels should win because of that. It actually makes the setting more believable. The corrupt empire ignores the new technology and the new modern rebels adopt it and defeat the old power. BUT in Star Wars, the design of battleships apparently stopped for several thousand years, evolved significantly for a few decades and then stopped or regressed. It's just a flaw, imo. Not a huge one, but still a plothole, sacrificed to the rule of cool.
@anthonyanderson1367
@anthonyanderson1367 6 жыл бұрын
@@hafor2846 yeah... Unfortunately. However in legends there are dedicated Carriers that do appear on scene as well as better starfighters. However there are still the dreadnaughts and battleships. I tack that on to the fact that there were still superweapons and extra-galactic invaders that used heavy warships.
@anthonyanderson1367
@anthonyanderson1367 6 жыл бұрын
Truat me I agree 100% with you. Was just trying to explain the in universe answer why the Empire chose the Imperial class over the Venator.
@GSarge17
@GSarge17 6 жыл бұрын
My advice is to not apply too much real-world logic into the space-opera fantasy. It usually ends up ruining the experience.
@jacobdowd468
@jacobdowd468 6 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Would like to hear your thoughts on Darth Maul.
@codyshida
@codyshida 6 жыл бұрын
I'd be down for a book club, I've wanted to get into legends for a while but haven't really known where to start!
@danielkorladis7869
@danielkorladis7869 4 жыл бұрын
I wish we'd seen the K-Wing in the sequels
@123455thatguy
@123455thatguy 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ecks I recently listened to Maul lockdown and Deathtroopers through audible and really enjoyed them. I was wondering if you had any other suggestions for good listens?
@michaelhanson8296
@michaelhanson8296 6 жыл бұрын
I always loved the Star Fortress. 1,000 proton bombs is hard even for the K-wing to complete in sheer destructive firepower. (Plus it has the turrets to defend itself, just like the K-wing). In addition to that, it can also be adapted very easily to a wide-range of non-combat roles, which in my opinion is a big thumbs up for a space force that doesn't have a lot of money to spend.
@tallietorchersproductions2740
@tallietorchersproductions2740 3 жыл бұрын
A nice change of pace from all the hate :D
@jayburn00
@jayburn00 2 жыл бұрын
I would be ok with it if it wasn't used in a dumb way (plus some major design flaws).
@jonathansevier1988
@jonathansevier1988 6 жыл бұрын
Hell yea to the Book club i have most of the legends canon books
@giladpellaeon1691
@giladpellaeon1691 6 жыл бұрын
"Legends" is how I came to Star Wars back in '91 with the Thrawn trilogy (which I'm currently rereading for, I think, the fifth time). I still find Zahn to be the best author in Star Wars (Stackpole being a solid second). But an EU book group sounds good, I've read every novel from the Thrawn trilogy up into the start of the Vong war (1991 to 2000ish). After that I'm a little spottier on my Star Wars novels outside Zahn ones.
@cptgofer1acb377
@cptgofer1acb377 6 жыл бұрын
Book club? Sounds great I have 40 of the 100+ novels within the SWLU need to get the new Thrawn series books. I have the first one. My favorite series is X-wing. I am so in for this book club idea. Would like more details.
@HowDawgg
@HowDawgg 5 жыл бұрын
i like the reading club ideas
@srg08
@srg08 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for being later to the party... but I can argue that the b-wing as one major advantage over the k-wing and that is that he b-wing as it’s own hyperdrive, so he is not reliant on a carrier for bring him to battle and should the need to leave a battle zone quickly won’t be in the k-wing favor as it need to return to the carrier first. That not the case with b-wing.
@pyrolopez854
@pyrolopez854 6 жыл бұрын
Hey I heard you should do one video bringing in the new universe which I haven't seen a video about yet which is talking about the Robotech universe mostly regarding the vf-1 Valkyries
@joshuaakkerman6907
@joshuaakkerman6907 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Darth Krayt's Annihilator-class starfighter from the Legecy era.
@MrZrbrownie
@MrZrbrownie 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Quick question though, is there any difference between the TIE IT you mentioned and the TIE Punisher from the X wing tabletop game? That model used in the artwork during the video looks like the latter.
@IndigoEuphonium
@IndigoEuphonium 6 жыл бұрын
Say you had a fleet of the Star Destroyers from each era; what do you think is the minimum number of Venator, Imperial I/II, and Resurgent Star Destroyers needed to police a sector; or even the entire galaxy? (Assuming each SD had a full compliment of fighters)
@Guardias
@Guardias 6 жыл бұрын
Called number 1 and 2. Hard to compete with the K and B-Wing
@johnpatz8395
@johnpatz8395 3 жыл бұрын
What is the Starfighter shown at 2:24 , I. Ask. As I love the look of it, it’s sort of a cross between the D wing, the B wing and the H-60. It appears you were showing it. As an H-60, but as you said the H-60 has a separate gunner cockpit, and the earlier images don’t show the s foil wing that this one has. It makes me think of if the decided to move the cockpit into the center of the B-wing’s body to make it easier for pilots to adapt to, but also added a bit more room for missiles and/or torpedoes
@johnpatz8395
@johnpatz8395 3 жыл бұрын
What is the Starfighter shown at 2:24 , I. Ask. As I love the look of it, it’s sort of a cross between the D wing, the B wing and the H-60. It appears you were showing it. As an H-60, but as you said the H-60 has a separate gunner cockpit, and the earlier images don’t show the s foil wing that this one has, and the cockpit is also in the center of the main wing inside of at the end It makes me think of if the decided to move the cockpit into the center of the B-wing’s body to make it easier for pilots to adapt to, but also added a bit more room for missiles and/or torpedoes.
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 6 жыл бұрын
Lots of Y and B-wings, or an H or V-wing with maybe some Imperial or Old Republic craft like a TIE Bomber.. Forgot about the K-wing, basically the A-10 of the SW verse, but yeah think for most of us its mainly alphabet Rebel craft on this one
@Stratotank3r
@Stratotank3r 6 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a video about the Imperial Gunboat.
@GR138Legend
@GR138Legend 6 жыл бұрын
I'll throw my hat into the ring for a reading club of Star wars books.
@elansleazebaggano6930
@elansleazebaggano6930 6 жыл бұрын
First Order vs Grand Army of the Republic. Who can win this?
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm I will have to say that the Republic would win with the Jedi's Help....
@voughklry8362
@voughklry8362 6 жыл бұрын
Republic because of numbers Also because jar jar exists, they will automatically want to leave life
@bubblesofthecoast6393
@bubblesofthecoast6393 6 жыл бұрын
Even with the Death Star MkIII, there’s just too many everything that the Republic owns. Even the Supremacy will fall under the fire of enough venators, and that’s not including Palpatines secret fleet
@jakedempsey3809
@jakedempsey3809 6 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on how many ships the First Order actually has. We'll have to wait until we get a real estimate before we know for sure
@bubblesofthecoast6393
@bubblesofthecoast6393 6 жыл бұрын
Jake Dempsey I suppose, though supposedly, the First Order is small due to only growing in the outer rim, but then again, it didn’t take much for the New Republic to bow before them...
@finrodbrs
@finrodbrs 6 жыл бұрын
"You can't blow something up if you die first." ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION, LAST JEDI?!
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