The 5 Worst Mistakes In Magic: The Gathering This Year (2020)

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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 3 жыл бұрын
Every year my 'Worst Of' video outperforms my 'Best Of' video by 2-3x. Last year's pair are sitting at 300k views to 100k views as we speak. Let's make this the year where people don't ignore the good. Check out my 'Best of Magic The Gathering in 2020' video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpTThqtvqZuHd7s
@jariel2568
@jariel2568 3 жыл бұрын
Prof, I'm thirteen and I've loved magic since I was 7 but like you mentioned it is almost impossible for me and my friends to get cards anymore
@Eramiserasmus
@Eramiserasmus 3 жыл бұрын
Watched the Best of, now I need my last dose of poison for the year.
@CryptoSC
@CryptoSC 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I'd love to think about positive things relating to MTG, doing so after what has happened with the game I once loved and had been playing since 2004 in this year alone, which ended up pushing me to selling almost all of my cards, would just make me all the more frustrated I would love nothing more than for WOTC to turn it around and make MTG into a game worth sinking into all the passion and energy that the community has always shown
@dougcarey2233
@dougcarey2233 3 жыл бұрын
Never go the notification about your best of 2020 video. Going to check it out now.
@mumbles2840
@mumbles2840 3 жыл бұрын
it’s sad to Have to see the R&D people come up with lies from their backside to cover up for A cooperate who doesn’t care about anything but money, seeing their love for the game drain because they had to come up with walking dead cards and somehow somehow put it into a magic plane. Ruining the story and the lore they’ve been crafting for and planning for years quick dollar for corporate. The last product I remember on game nights having malissa onboard for was the brawl pre cons where she seemed happy with them. Not ever since. Something is going to break soon and it’s looking like the game is going to break a lot faster along with the player base rather than the company. The sad part is I don’t even think when it happens they’ll try to salvage it, just double down and milk the money dry.
@karlgrylls2406
@karlgrylls2406 3 жыл бұрын
"It drives away customers, it diminishes access, it dwindles enthusiasm" You nailed it Prof as always
@karlgrylls2406
@karlgrylls2406 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the heart Prof. I want to add something: Today some cards that i ordered were in the mail. I was happy about them and the bulk ones, the ones that the sellers add to your order to protect the important card, well, i didn't need them and so i throw them away. But then, i decided to tear them apart, because i wanted to see the blue layer inside them because i just wanted to see it again since ~15 years. I was shocked and not surprised at all at the same time as i discovered that the blue layer - once a protection against illegal copies - no longer exists. I don't know when it got removed, but it proofes my feeling that the cards are getting thinner and thinner over the years while the price rised with Eldraine. A hidden increase in price is never good and i see this game on it's way down. In my opinion the upper echelon has to change, getting away from the high price premium thought. "Premium" because at least some of the green commander collections - right out of the factory - had scratches on them, lol! And something i wanted to say since a few weeks: Thank you Prof for your videos and your speeches about the game and the products of Hasbro/WotC. I once heard a saying: "Don't fuck the system. Make it pregnant". And i hope you will be very succesful in doing so :)
@Crovax
@Crovax 3 жыл бұрын
"It drives away customers" are we sure about that? i mean, they boast the sales because they do have costumers...i agree in the sentiment, its hard to talk about customers when they used to boast about players. but we keep buying. we are costumers, and good ones.
@karlgrylls2406
@karlgrylls2406 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crovax the formulation "drives away" indicates that it is an ongoing process, it takes place right now, but will be taking even more place in the near future. For right now there might be enough people left being financial idiots, but with a shrinking playerbase the demand for such products will shrink. Without players wanting the premium products no dealer/retailer wants them either. WotC will notice then, that there profit is shrinking. And then, only then, not earlier, will they think about themself and their business policy. Sadly, like all humans do
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crovax Pretty much this. The problem with customer outrage is that we the public never get to see how it is balanced with customer satisfaction. Social media is heavily tilted towards negative feedback (plenty of research about that), so the first lesson in community management is: don't listen to the so-called "community", look at your data! As long as sales are looking good, there is no reason to change. Also, Prof. is strictly wrong: the cheap entry into the game is still there. One can still by regular Draft boosters, and the planeswalker decks, which were completely useless in Standard, have been replaced with Commander decks that can actually serve as an entry level experience.
@NecromancyForKids
@NecromancyForKids 3 жыл бұрын
@@Volkbrecht Data is not predictive. It does not tell you what will happen, only tells you trends of what has happened. Companies make games that are copies of other games because "data shows they are popular right now" and sometimes it works out, like Fortnite. Or it fails utterly and entirely, like Battleborn. On the same vein, you might sell a set of cards or a stuffed doll really well due to a trend or novelty, but your next line has already lost most of its fanbase and is only purchased by really diehard people. Thus having abyssmal sales in comparison. Numbers aren't answers, only suggestions.
@marshall4439
@marshall4439 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Prof, I would actually appreciate a “All the Controversies Wizards is Engulfed in” video. You brought up a lot of things I hadn’t even heard of.
@Obscuredinsight
@Obscuredinsight 3 жыл бұрын
"Ok I'm swinging with Darth Vader and Rick grimes" "In response to your attack I will flash in Iron man and I will play my harry potter instant avada kedavra" "Oh yeah well then I'm going to counter you're harry potter spell with John wick's silenced pistol..."
@Kanoog
@Kanoog 3 жыл бұрын
Triggered John Wick ability, "If you kill Josh Wick's Dog token he kills your entire board removing all of your permanents from the game."
@allyourpie4323
@allyourpie4323 3 жыл бұрын
I cast Silo Explosion with its alternate cost,sacrificing Frank Grimes to end the turn. Go.
@ent2shows963
@ent2shows963 3 жыл бұрын
I think my soul puked
@andrewdecker616
@andrewdecker616 3 жыл бұрын
Well that would have worked if my defenses weren't buffed by an eviolite
@icathiantactician9209
@icathiantactician9209 3 жыл бұрын
Well in response I flash in Pickle Rick and his new keyworded ability 'funniest thing I ever seen' to counter your John wick's silenced pistol
@rew513
@rew513 3 жыл бұрын
"Walking dead is magic adjacent" Oh, I forgot about all the wizards and magic spell slinging in season one.
@totallytrey7819
@totallytrey7819 3 жыл бұрын
I just want my Colt Python Magnum card printed.
@RappingChipmunk
@RappingChipmunk 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that argument is so dumb. Like the movie Idle hands has zombies and combat, does that mean it is magic adjacent?
@TrueGamer22887
@TrueGamer22887 3 жыл бұрын
Davis McClure by that logic yes
@Mr_Boss_Smile
@Mr_Boss_Smile 3 жыл бұрын
zombies does not equal magic. They are not resurrected zombies through magic.
@WorldofTomorrowInc
@WorldofTomorrowInc 3 жыл бұрын
everything is magic adjacent. they have people who can universe hop so any IP is game. the IP shouldnt even come into the arguement.
@arkifane
@arkifane 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing gets under my skin more than companies talking down to their consumer base. Don't tell me I don't understand the product. Don't tell me everything is fine just because it made a ton of money. I dislike the walking dead cards, and I 100% know why I dislike them without WotC trying to twist reality.
@the-engneer
@the-engneer 3 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe they pulled that BS! They look like proxies, and have ridiculous mechanics
@jry0511
@jry0511 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Blizzard's defense of their Diablo mobile game: "Don't you guys have smartphones?!"
@the-engneer
@the-engneer 3 жыл бұрын
@@jry0511 "Is this some kind of early April fools joke?"
@chucheeness7817
@chucheeness7817 3 жыл бұрын
@@jry0511 I can't remember on what Q&A it was but I remember the Blizzard saying to a question about inclusion of an old server in WoW "You think you want it, but you don't"
@SpiceWeazel
@SpiceWeazel 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Game designers need to remember that the player is ALWAYS right about what is fun. If your player base isn’t enjoying your product, it’s a bad product, no matter how brilliant you personally think it was. The purpose of a game is to be fun for the player.
@jergin4596
@jergin4596 3 жыл бұрын
"The Walking Dead is MTG adjacent because of zombies and combat" is such a dumb excuse lol. That argument could be made to include pretty much any IP.
@DoubleBeast
@DoubleBeast 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to play Azorius Super Saiyan Blue Goku Tribal next year!!
@hoowhdis7191
@hoowhdis7191 3 жыл бұрын
"The US military is MTG adjacent because they wear funny clothes and go bang krrsh bang"
@laurencebrown3822
@laurencebrown3822 3 жыл бұрын
"You see, Clarke's third law states any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, so that's why we're happy to announce our newest set, Star Trek Commander Legends!"
@asteria9963
@asteria9963 3 жыл бұрын
It shows that some of the people at wotc either don't know what they're talking about, or that they have absolutely no problem being dishonest in an attempt to sell their products.
@TheComicBookJoker
@TheComicBookJoker 3 жыл бұрын
> That argument could be made to include pretty much any IP. I think that’s the point.
@Shannon_Vlogs
@Shannon_Vlogs 3 жыл бұрын
I actually stopped playing after they removed JumpStart. I was bored with standard and I loved JumpStart. When they removed it- I got bored and stopped playing. Edited to add: Omg. I just got to the part at 4:20 where you say you stopped playing after JumpStart left too! Good to hear I am not alone!
@TheAverageGuyTAG
@TheAverageGuyTAG 3 жыл бұрын
@@JacobSmith-rh2sr What am I thinking of right now?
@TheAverageGuyTAG
@TheAverageGuyTAG 3 жыл бұрын
@@JacobSmith-rh2sr So you can't read minds, then. Guess you were wrong about the other thing, then.
@moowaidat6089
@moowaidat6089 3 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing when the walking dead showed its cards and that they were mechanically unique in a premium product of reprints... That's not the wizards I know, and they are dead to me
@j.moonstorm3158
@j.moonstorm3158 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I haven't played in months now, but I did start a new play through in Dark Souls 3, next time I have spare cash I'll probably buy a few singles for a modern archenemy deck I want to play against my friends, but that's the sum of my plans to play mtg in the future
@Kattywagon29
@Kattywagon29 3 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing after Zendikar Rising was released. I had hoped the rotation and influx of new cards would revitalize the format, but instead it was just terrible. I played Jumpstart a few times and it was fun, but I'm back to just playing Commander now. I don't need standard. I was only playing arena to pass the time between going to my LGS to play commander w/friends. Covid put an end to that and with arena being so annoying, there was literally no reason for me to keep playing.
@Shrimp4Gura
@Shrimp4Gura 3 жыл бұрын
Opening packs with banned cards in them Yugioh: first time?
@023Kole
@023Kole 3 жыл бұрын
Yugioh has been broken since its release...
@Dakki_
@Dakki_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@023Kole and yet more and more people play it.
@023Kole
@023Kole 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dakki_ i know its kindda weird... As someone who has played yugioh until 2013/2014 what made me quit is constant erattas, rules changes and the cost of course
@gantzisballs
@gantzisballs 3 жыл бұрын
Not to be all snobby and gate keeping, but Magic SHOULD be held to a higher standard than Yugioh. Yugioh the card game only exists because in a manga about playing random death games, there happened to be 2 chapters that parodied Magic the Gathering. Seto Kaiba was created by the mangaka to parody the type of Magic tournament spike who only cares about winning and doesn't really enjoy the game or its cards. Yugioh from the beginning has consistently gotten away with a lower quality game under the excuse that "it's for kids". Magic has always had some older players and its claim to fame was being a complex but balanced game created by a math PhD. I've been a Magic player and apologist since 2001, but 2020 was BAD.
@Shrimp4Gura
@Shrimp4Gura 3 жыл бұрын
@@gantzisballs i was poking fun at konami reprinting bamned cards, that most of the time are worth pennies and taking up high rarity slots
@grrrama
@grrrama 3 жыл бұрын
“2020 is the year WOTC started cashing in their chips.” Such an outstanding metaphor for what is happening with the management of the game.
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 2 жыл бұрын
does "chips" == "curled cards like Pringles"?
@elsesome2707
@elsesome2707 3 жыл бұрын
"Disdain and scorn for their customers base" 100% agreed. The live stream was WotC indirectly and directly insulting their customers and declaring their willingness to destroy any shed of good will or their own moral character in the name of short term profit. I'm yet to regain any of the confidence and trust I had lost for Magic the Gathering and WotC as a company after that live stream.
@almoghh123
@almoghh123 3 жыл бұрын
Word.
@jerodast
@jerodast 3 жыл бұрын
To quote another company's totally brilliant customer relations press conference, "you all have phones don't you?" Just replace "phones" with "Netflix".
@zztzgza
@zztzgza 3 жыл бұрын
Wotc has truly become a AAA games development company, with all the predatory practices, bugs, glitches, crashes, controversies, and day 1 patch promises rolled into a physical table top card game.
@eligabeivan
@eligabeivan 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly - you'd think they'd learn from EA, Activision, blizzard... this is what's bound to happen when shareholders dictate a company's actions
@squee147
@squee147 3 жыл бұрын
@@eligabeivan shareholders don't care about the company's health beyond next quarter. The idea that their interest should be be the guiding star has become one of the most poisonous ideas in business. Great companies have collapsed under the lack of concern for the future.
@ryanjones_rheios
@ryanjones_rheios 3 жыл бұрын
It has me worried about D&D too, tbh. The D&D - MTG crossovers seems cynical enough that I already question it. As does the "race => species" rename and the idea that species shouldn't have downsides so much as differing upsides. It all has this air of the manipulative to me. But the warning signs were already there. The new Tasha's book, and really even stuff like the Hexblade and Beastmaster versions, are all pretty obvious examples of trying to patch design problems or maintain public opinion. I don't know about D&D print issues, but that may be because of the tenuous increase in pdfs (w/o a cost reduction, similar to how games have made that switch. Though WoTC is equally uncomfortable with the idea of their being pirated, I'm not surprised they don't have more protections around it yet.)
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 3 жыл бұрын
YAY CAPITALISM!!!
@ryanjones_rheios
@ryanjones_rheios 3 жыл бұрын
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ This isn't a failure of capitalism though. Capitalism just means a person can own capital, but doesn't dictate the short-sighted pig-stupid way they use it. This is a failure of education and self-control if anything. People wanting all their money right away, up front, with slash and burn tactics. Anyone with a brain knows you just end up dying or losing your crops in a flood that way.
@Caliban_80
@Caliban_80 3 жыл бұрын
WoTC: We hear your concerns. That's why we are introducing Secret Lair "Queen's Gambit". The show is magic adjacent because chess is also a game that can be played.
@baguetten8004
@baguetten8004 3 жыл бұрын
Nah my man. Sasha Grey edition next year. There are both male and females in the game
@Fealuinix
@Fealuinix 3 жыл бұрын
WoTC: We hear your concerns. That's why we are introducing Secret Lair "The Handmaid's Tale", because oppressive control is Magic adjacent.
@renzuki5830
@renzuki5830 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically enough it's probably still better than putting spacegodzilla in.
@baguetten8004
@baguetten8004 3 жыл бұрын
@@renzuki5830 totally forgot about that shit
@andresguzman5216
@andresguzman5216 3 жыл бұрын
I actually think you guys are missing the point. The different IP is fine by me. I would totally buy "queen's gambit" and "Star wars" skinned cards. The problems were others, such as the lack of silver borders
@Phenest76
@Phenest76 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the WoTC staff member who mentions how the Walking Dead is “magic adjacent” is in a room of sealed sneakers. Shows that his focus is on collection for value is greater than functional use. HE AIN’T WEARING ALL THOSE SHOES!!!
@Obversechaos
@Obversechaos 3 жыл бұрын
Look, I... I mean HE needs MORE sneakers. So buy the Naruto-Star Wars crossover precon secret lair promo limited x-series master edition! Ok!
@claireholiday905
@claireholiday905 3 жыл бұрын
It's more relevant than you think. The dude got the idea for Secret Lairs from limited edition sneaker drops.
@SilentDeath9414
@SilentDeath9414 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Magic Adjacent, just with no you know magic. They do have zombies tho!!
@starduststriker8792
@starduststriker8792 3 жыл бұрын
@@SilentDeath9414 dont forget the fact that humans are also in magic the gathering
@mr.phobia5847
@mr.phobia5847 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with being a sneaker collector. No better or worse than little pieces of cardboard.
@GranMaese
@GranMaese 3 жыл бұрын
Wizards of the COST.
@four-en-tee
@four-en-tee 3 жыл бұрын
You say that, but at least there's decently cheap formats like Oathbreaker and Pauper in MTG for broke ass, full-time college students like me who do online school from home. I don't even know how I'm going to get into Yugioh, that shit makes MTG card prices look dirt cheap.
@JacksonJilesVanMarteen
@JacksonJilesVanMarteen 3 жыл бұрын
Omg this is the most perfect comment to explain what I feel about magic I remember a time when you could be a broke ass kid with a hard time makin friends and magic was a way around all that to find enjoyment in life and now look what they have done with it it’s a shame a real damn shame
@the7A7dude
@the7A7dude 3 жыл бұрын
@@four-en-tee yeah until all the rich try hard rum it for you, and everyone
@splnter648
@splnter648 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@elainehelmont4647
@elainehelmont4647 3 жыл бұрын
@@four-en-tee Well it's because of the formats really,a simple new format would solve the problem,maybe not just commons like in pauper mtg(bc polymerization is uncommin and too many decks use fusions) but maybe banning rare and ultra rare would suffice?
@JimPea
@JimPea 3 жыл бұрын
20:20 This point about criticism rooting for WotC to succeed rather than fail is really important. Back when WotC announced the ridiculous two wildcards for one Historic card plan, the community couldn't have been clearer in its criticism, WotC changed direction, and now Historic is not just a popular format but one that is actively supported through special releases and inclusion in pro-level events. WotC is now very happy with Historic, it's a success, and we never even got a thank you for so passionately discouraging them from their shortsighted and foolish plans.
@Dalamr
@Dalamr 3 жыл бұрын
right you are.
@ShatterPalm
@ShatterPalm 3 жыл бұрын
Fully agreed. i'm genuinely stunned by the sheer avarice on display this year, and not just from Hasbro and WotC. Seems like every damn corporation in America has gotten greedier during this shitstorm.
@Gevaudan1471
@Gevaudan1471 3 жыл бұрын
WotC has become the money-hungry megacorp your Hippie grandparents warned you about.
@chrisiver8506
@chrisiver8506 3 жыл бұрын
And yet you probably still buy from them
@chrisiver8506
@chrisiver8506 3 жыл бұрын
@@clutchbleach2057 If they see profits slipping they'll change their ways. The business is so full proof though they must feel like they're invincible. Imagine creating cardboard sheets for pennies each and then cutting them into rectangles and selling them to millions of loyal customers, so loyal there's a massive secondary market based around your game. And Magic Arena of course is a thing.
@laurencebrown3822
@laurencebrown3822 3 жыл бұрын
When you have a elected leader who is known primarily for being a entrepreneur/business owner instead of being a politician, and who's actions are in line with being a business owner, that ethos of earning profits in any manner first becomes the norm, and encourages others to be more straightforward in their greed to make money first over engaging with people who don't agree with you in an attempt to win them over.
@DAsrada
@DAsrada 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurencebrown3822 small wonder everyone got greedier, when the President may well have been the anthropomorphic personification of greed, excess and cruelty.
@Robotoken-299
@Robotoken-299 3 жыл бұрын
Don't ask questions just consume product and get excited for next products.
@gaiusjuliuspleaser
@gaiusjuliuspleaser 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Baumann is the philosopher we need in these dark days.
@NecromancyForKids
@NecromancyForKids 3 жыл бұрын
@Kel'Thuzad They aren't the same people. Believe it or not, there can be different kinds of people in the same community.
@jeffm2222
@jeffm2222 3 жыл бұрын
I’m here to ramp out and chew bubblegum, and I’m all out of bubblegum.
@Dylfunkle
@Dylfunkle 3 жыл бұрын
This has aged uncomfortably well, it's like the corporate vampires saw it and said "hold my beer".
@Inspirawesome
@Inspirawesome 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time in over 20 years that I've considered quitting Magic. I have no excitement for new products anymore, and I hate that my optimism has been replaced with cynicism.
@Nightwishmaster
@Nightwishmaster 3 жыл бұрын
I quit about 4-5 months ago. Used to spend hours every single day playing the game and consuming content and had for YEARS but WotC has just absolutely ruined this game for me. I so hope there's a chance it can be fixed and I can love it again but I'm not optimistic. They're becoming just as greedy as Hasbro.
@linusemil9503
@linusemil9503 3 жыл бұрын
While I agree that I no longer feel any excitement over new produts it's still too early to quit Magic for me. Commander with friends is still an awesome experience and every set brings a new playable card or two for my commander decks. I stopped drafting though since the regular packs are just...regular.
@cyberdragonzekrom6790
@cyberdragonzekrom6790 3 жыл бұрын
Try out Pokemon. I recently quit Yugioh for having similar problems as MTG - though much, much worse. - Pokemon is BY FAR the cheapest game of the 3, with Tier 1, non-"budget" decks costing about $100-$150. - Decks stay competitive for a good 9 months or longer. Some cards stay competitive from the moment they're printed until they rotate, and even when cards do rotate, it's rare that your entire strategy dies. - Cards are very rarely banned in Standard. Right now, there are only 2. - Almost every card you want to play (outside of evolution decks) has one or more premium versions - reverse holos, full arts, shinies, rainbow rares, or gold secret rares. Even basic energies.
@shibbidydoowop
@shibbidydoowop 3 жыл бұрын
PsSsst - buy old songles 😎 Play premod / old school - it is thee way.
@Turntwobounceland
@Turntwobounceland 3 жыл бұрын
"Reading the card DOESN'T explain tbe card."
@yoav.kats6328
@yoav.kats6328 3 жыл бұрын
Do just errata the walking dead to silver borded
@Wolfsspinne
@Wolfsspinne 3 жыл бұрын
The old saying has been erratad as you can look up in rule no 802.5
@bwahchannel9746
@bwahchannel9746 3 жыл бұрын
*laughs in every errata change* just wait till the reprint, then that quote won't apply for those.
@Ragnaracc
@Ragnaracc 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wolfsspinne that rule is on combat
@spooplegeist5260
@spooplegeist5260 3 жыл бұрын
Even on cards without errata, I can’t follow what the hell they’re supposed to do anymore. Every card is a wall of text lately.
@jagehtso
@jagehtso 3 жыл бұрын
It honestly feels like my favorite pizza joint has been taken over by a huge chain and with it went everything that made it my favorite in favor of profit margins. Magic is still my absolute favorite game, but the company that calls itself Wizards of the Coast these days no longer makes it. As crass as it may sound, in a way I'm thankful for Covid making it way easier to quit. Because this year has been the year where I have finally reached the limit of my patience and tolerance for the incredibly scummy tactics Wizards has been moving towards these past years. It still hurts to quit. I love Magic. But my love for the game is also what made me quit it.
@Stardustpunk24
@Stardustpunk24 3 жыл бұрын
It's not crass at all. I totally understand you. In a year where everyone who wasn't a billionaire, politician, celebrity, or corporate chain, was screwed over in every way, and we all needed to be able to SAVE money. Wizards kept pushing out stuff and pushing people to buy each thing. They should have been SUPPORTING their community, not screwing us over.
@JimboSlice0
@JimboSlice0 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said. Oko was the last straw for me, I just quit in January. I did break down and play a few vintage cubes but that's it this year. Every set looks worse than the last
@ikejohnson5494
@ikejohnson5494 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s very magic adjacent. It has zombies and it has combat” Oh yes. The two only things that matter for consistency in worldbuilding. Are there zombies and is there combat. Those are the only considerations. Not like you need to ask if there’s, you know... magic or something. Or the 5 color philosophies. Those don’t matter. It’s just, are there zombies and combat.
@Zetimenvec
@Zetimenvec 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wiating for them to drop the zombies justification and go straight for "well its fiction there's combat..."
@davidlundquist1979
@davidlundquist1979 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. By that logic, the Fast & Furious movies are "very Magic adjacent" as well. "They have vehicles and combat, what more do you little whiners want?!"
@b0lkan
@b0lkan 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing him say that was mind-boggling. He must have an uncle working at Hasbro.
@trowawayacc
@trowawayacc 3 жыл бұрын
And cars, and guns, and rapists.
@seanc9520
@seanc9520 3 жыл бұрын
Adjacent? Weird I don't remember a "Lord of the Undead" boss in walking dead. Or spells? counters? A darn lighting bolt? Did we watch the same show?
@niiro6692
@niiro6692 3 жыл бұрын
This year has literally killed my interest in mtg, the direction it's going is not one I want to see it go down, I usually really enjoy commander and even standard but the constant bans, the sets with cards I'm hyped for being in "Premium" sets I'm basically told I'm too poor to have made me simply sell off most of what I have and move on to other games.
@Vrsds
@Vrsds 3 жыл бұрын
it is something i was afraid of this 2-3 years with mtg. At least at Yugioh the problems are there since the beginning but now WoftC made MTG take a total free fall. Worse is that that has started to affect Commander (which was created by the playerbase) even more and especially now that WoftC started to create more commander products creating the fear that commander might end up like standard. Also in the case of walking dead they could easily do the different artwork like in the Godzilla case. Worse i actually liked the effect of negan and would like to build a deck around him but since i live in Greece it's almost impossible and even if i found a way the cost is so big that it would be better to spend that money for a whole different deck that can actually be more competitive. Even from a collectors standpoint if they can't get them because they leave to far even if they like them that method becomes unfair. And all they had to say where half baked lazy excuses for the reason of the product avoiding it's main problem and then make a second video saying that actually we will do something like that in the future again even more times treating the player base and especially those players that are in the game for more than a decade or even more. In conclusion with their response and attitude it seams that things will get even worse from now on to the point where the yugioh will actually be the one with the higher quality in almost every way.
@icantth1nkofab3tt3rname6
@icantth1nkofab3tt3rname6 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not a MTG player, but the professor does such an amazing job on his videos I happily watch them with only a base level understanding of the game
@TreasureTrain
@TreasureTrain 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite memory in magic over the last 5 years was opening a cryptic command at prerelease for amonkhet. I wish wotc would make collecting fun again. As opposed to, "how many extra hours do I need to work this week to afford the cool cards" now
@theherosdownfall7428
@theherosdownfall7428 3 жыл бұрын
Never more have I watched a video and thought “man I wish he was wrong”
@Vrsds
@Vrsds 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and as a yugioh fan (started playing commander 3 years now) i never thought that someone could possible make worse decisions than konami :(.
@A_G_H_A_N_I_M
@A_G_H_A_N_I_M 3 жыл бұрын
I think the most egregious offense is that victory lap VOD. It seemed that during the chaos that was the announcement of TWD Secret Lair that WotC was quick to pull back and say "Hey players, we hear you. We won't do exclusive cards like this again. We're sorry." but in hindsight it's just rhetoric spin to please the player base since they went on after the sale closed to pat themselves on the back and say it was such a good sale and they're so pleased that people liked it. This disconnect between the company and the player base as a whole is the driving force behind confidence in the product and the game as a whole to slip. If players wanted a "gatcha-style" pay-to-win game, we would all be playing mobile games. We play Magic to have fun and not to invest in a portfolio or flex our wallets against each other. I don't think WotC really sees that still to this day.
@ralphpetagna3778
@ralphpetagna3778 3 жыл бұрын
Magic started being a collectible that could be considered an investment the day they announced the Reserved List. It just took players a long time to adjust and respond to that. Now, they're just completely and unabashedly up front about it. But we've gotten hints of this from various WotC employees - notably MaRo with his constant talk of "reprint equity" - for a long time, so this pivot just solidifies their commitment to making Magic a collectible instead of a game.
@matthewyoho5422
@matthewyoho5422 3 жыл бұрын
"It seemed that during the chaos that was the announcement of TWD Secret Lair that WotC was quick to pull back and say "Hey players, we hear you. We won't do exclusive cards like this again. We're sorry." Um... what? WotC *never* even seemingly apologized for making those after the overwhelmingly negative reaction they received when we learned they would be mechanically unique cards, or even slightly intimated that they wouldn't do it again - they doubled down and suggested that we'd be getting LOTS more of just that sort of thing. What they were quick to do was to try and assure us that they "could" (not would, or that they had any plans even remotely in the works to do so, but "could") just make a "real Magic version" of the TWD cards further down the road if those turned out to be popular commanders or "must have" cards in a competitive format, and errata those new cards to be "the same cards" for game purposes.
@A_G_H_A_N_I_M
@A_G_H_A_N_I_M 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewyoho5422 they definitely did acknowledge the backlash and apologized for it and stated they would consider not doing it going forward and then the vod came out.
@GambitsEnd
@GambitsEnd 3 жыл бұрын
These ridiculous products getting record-setting sales is the reason why WotC keeps pushing the envelop by releasing more of them. Clearly, the disconnect is with the vocal minority that is people like us and the silent majority that keeps incentivizing WotC to keep doing this. It won't get better unless they see a dramatic drop in sales that forces them to pull back. Until then, they'll keep squeezing that stone for blood.
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe there is no disconnect. Maybe that kind of product is indeed very popular with a big part of customer base. Maybe that victory lap was made to give haters something to re-adjust their view of the world. I'm not asking that anyone forget their reasons for not liking the product. But maybe, just maybe, those reasons are not all that interesting to a big number of players? Maybe even to a silent majority of them? One should always entertain the possibility of being wrong.
@the-engneer
@the-engneer 3 жыл бұрын
He really hit home with the "When you buy a pack with a banned card you essentially bought a dead card", because I was all happy to pull certain cards on multiple occasions just for the ban hammer to smash my joy. I even pulled Oko from a $5 booster literally the day before he got banned, and I felt that card deserves to be banned, but I still felt a little bummed
@bloodtypexneg
@bloodtypexneg 3 жыл бұрын
I know I am late to this video... but I have binging your content while working (I work in IT support, and have plenty of time to listen to videos while working). I have recently gotten back into MTG after stopping in 2009 due to tragic life events. I am enjoying the Commander format... but the game doesn't feel the same. I miss MTG of pre 2010... and you hit the nail on the head with this video. Thank you for continuing to provide excellent and informative content... Also, per your recommendation, rocking Ultra Guard Boulders for my commander decks :)
@ej3ae
@ej3ae 3 жыл бұрын
Such an excellent point about the removal of jumpstart from magic arena. I haven't been back on arena since.
@jgioeli0
@jgioeli0 3 жыл бұрын
If Mark Heggen could just leave WotC and take with him his obsession of drop culture marketing, that'd be greeaaatttt.
@gaiden81
@gaiden81 3 жыл бұрын
Totally read that in the voice of Bill Lumbergh from Office Space. Was that intended on your part?
@jgioeli0
@jgioeli0 3 жыл бұрын
@@gaiden81 oh yes :D
@GamerdevilPro
@GamerdevilPro 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing that dude just makes me furious at this point, he's constantly producing shit takes.
@CHEFPKR
@CHEFPKR 3 жыл бұрын
Walking dead secret lair was lazy. They could have easily adapted TWD universe into magic without a straight rip.
@knickknack4338
@knickknack4338 3 жыл бұрын
There was an interview with Maro around the time of original Theros where he talked about how sets like Innistrad and Theros were a success because they touched on the popular tropes of those genres while still being uniquely Magic worlds. Guess they've removed that approach from their design philosophy and are fine to just copy/paste other IP's into the game now.
@joseluki
@joseluki 3 жыл бұрын
It would have been as simple as to have TWD cards to be skins of proper MTG cards like the Godzilla skins from Ikoria.
@snakeman830
@snakeman830 3 жыл бұрын
@@joseluki Rick easily could have been a skin for Odric (any version)
@DraconisMarchVII
@DraconisMarchVII 3 жыл бұрын
They had a Walking Dead plane already. It's called Innistrad.
@TheComicBookJoker
@TheComicBookJoker 3 жыл бұрын
@@joseluki Exactly this. Don’t like the skin but want the card abilities? Play one of the normal versions of the card. Honestly, it wouldn’t have been half as bad if the Rick card hadn’t been part of it. Negan was mechanically *interesting* but not really *good*, and the rest were just not at all good. And then Rick was spoiled. And Rick is a good card with many potential homes. Had they all just been the same play quality as a Planeswalker deck planeswalker, we probably wouldn’t be having this discussion, because no one but the collectors and whales they claimed to be targeting would have cared. But Rick happened. Fuck Rick.
@Suavek69
@Suavek69 3 жыл бұрын
2020 - year when 3 people in my commander group started to play with proxy-only decks. Me included
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 3 жыл бұрын
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@Suavek69
@Suavek69 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherb501 I've seen it. We will be totally playtesting those decks until we get bored with them xD
@rikrob5172
@rikrob5172 3 жыл бұрын
I think people should give wizards the finger and only play with proxy cards. There is literally no difference besides quality.
@coolcow5193
@coolcow5193 3 жыл бұрын
What card was banned in vintage
@coolcow5193
@coolcow5193 3 жыл бұрын
Nvm it's lurrus
@ClutchSituation
@ClutchSituation 3 жыл бұрын
Philosophically, I'm completely with you. Realistically, as long as people keep buying these stupid products, they will still make them. No amount of community "pressure" is going to make a difference to a company that values profits above all else. This has long been the tale in gaming. Players of the game are eager to contribute their voices, but the thought of not buying a game is a completely foreign concept to them. Wizards if the Coast knows this. And as long as fans ALLOW Wizards of the Coast to manipulate them, by spending money, there is no reason why anything will change. The most significant vote the community has is with their wallet. And there is a huge segment of this fan base that would buy a box full of human feces if WotC put their logo on it and called it Magic.
@shawnjavery
@shawnjavery 3 жыл бұрын
It's about the game being in a position to grow long term. Its surprisingly easy for a card game to die, even a big one will go out if its unable to maintain a player base, which means getting new people to come in as older ones naturally fall out. As for something as big as MtG there's probably going to be a course correction before it falls apart completely, just because how big it is. Assuming this is a bad practice long term that is, the amount of new and retained players will tell that long term.
@ethanmca320
@ethanmca320 3 жыл бұрын
It is so sad and ridiculous that whenever I open a foil, especially of cards that I actually want, my reaction is “Oh great, I wish I’d gotten this non-foil, it’s just going to curl in a week”
@quinnquitars
@quinnquitars 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve found that if you immediately put ur pack fresh foils into a binder they don’t really curl. After that ur free to play with them. But ur totally right
@colesimms6430
@colesimms6430 3 жыл бұрын
Then flatten it back out? What's the problem here? This is nothing new that's what happens to foil cards.
@Nightwishmaster
@Nightwishmaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@colesimms6430 It didn't use to though, which is exactly the problem. How long have you been playing? If you go look at some 90s foils you will see that not only do they look absolutely fantastic, the quality is much better. That's the whole problem, as the years have gone by the quality has dropped more and more.
@colesimms6430
@colesimms6430 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nightwishmaster I've been playing since 1999. Back then they didn't foil the art. It was just the card frame, thats the reason they didn't curl back then.
@Nightwishmaster
@Nightwishmaster 3 жыл бұрын
​@@colesimms6430 That's a fair point but even old modern framed foils hold up much better than current ones, and even Masterpiece and From the Vault printings look much better and don't curl up the same way. WotC's quality control has taken a major nose dive in recent years, we SHOULD be holding them to better standards, not that they give a fuck about their customers any more but still.
@Scantronimus466
@Scantronimus466 3 жыл бұрын
The only good part of SLWD is that it showed clearly which content creators are on the side of the players and which ones are just mouthpieces for WotC.
@FSTL0613
@FSTL0613 3 жыл бұрын
Top 5 this year can be summed up with : "Going from a game that cares first about its players to a game that cares first about its shareholders"
@kalansteel
@kalansteel 3 жыл бұрын
All entertainment company seems to have taken this shift in recent years... 😑
@kronozord8346
@kronozord8346 3 жыл бұрын
Thats every company in the planet.
@dougswanson4553
@dougswanson4553 3 жыл бұрын
F
@thisisthelukas
@thisisthelukas 3 жыл бұрын
I'm infuriated at the shoddy and inconsistent foiling in the last two years. I used to like collecting foils, but in addition to print quality and curling being a menace, foils often come already damaged/scratched.
@typoholic
@typoholic 3 жыл бұрын
These types of videos can’t be fun to make but they are certainly necessary. Customers need to hold WotC to task for issues that are plaguing the game and its brand. I appreciate Prof. sticking his neck out to discuss these issues.
@donjohnson1335
@donjohnson1335 3 жыл бұрын
2020 was the year that got me to stop spending money on Magic.
@don8535
@don8535 3 жыл бұрын
I quit buying new products for sure
@luisguilherme45
@luisguilherme45 3 жыл бұрын
I've an Ikoria Commander deck and lots of singles at my LGS.
@don8535
@don8535 3 жыл бұрын
@@luisguilherme45 nothing will change until we boycott Hasbro
@paingenerator8338
@paingenerator8338 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, I only buy reserved list and out of print sealed now.
@elliottengstrand5988
@elliottengstrand5988 3 жыл бұрын
Me as well. Can't support this company policy any more. I understand they want to make money because they're a business but they're so far away from paying attention to their player base any more that I don't want them to think for even a second that I support them and I'm spending all my money in the secondary market which they're actively trying to squash.
@icarus212001
@icarus212001 3 жыл бұрын
I started playing MTG in 2015 and stopped in 2017. I loved those two years of play. I was a fresh, new player and exactly the type of person WotC was trying to wrangle in. And I stopped playing because I saw the writing on the wall. WotC wasnt listening to fans, and they were doing everything in their power to alienate the people who most supported them. Even worse is this nonsense about them claiming not to pay attention to the secondary market. Konami? THEY dont. Konami, for as flawed and moronic as that company is, always reprint the most requested cards. They rerelease and sell them like normal cards. Not this garbage about charging 30$ for 5 cards
@waltercardcollector
@waltercardcollector 3 жыл бұрын
That is a great comparison. I think Wizards' "we don't care about the secondary market" statement made a lot more sense back before Masters sets were a thing and the only booster sets were Standard-legal sets, because it gave the idea that they would only reprint cards if they wanted them to be in Standard and for no other reason. But now that Masters sets are a thing, it's an outdated standpoint.
@TheLanach
@TheLanach 3 жыл бұрын
When I heard about the Walking Dead cards and controversy - after not having played the game for quite a while - my immediate thought was of the Godzilla cards. Had they just placed a in-MtG universe name beneath the name of the character in the art, implying the possible reprint of those mechanics, they would have spared themselves most of the backlash.
@GambitsEnd
@GambitsEnd 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. All they needed to do was make those alternative art versions and they'd be fine. Instead, they succumbed to greed by wanting to get people to buy mechanically new cards from a popular franchise.... that are somehow also tournament legal.
@donschellenberg6625
@donschellenberg6625 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video, Professor! Completely On Point! And I completely agree with you! Unfortunately, it's all about sales, profit, and an enlarging bottom line with Absolutely No Consideration or Concern for the Customer. It's sad and I feel, like you, that 2020 was only the beginning.
@Leafbinder
@Leafbinder 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that with Hasbro in charge of this game dont expect any good changes to happen until they decided to sell it off to a more reasonable company.
@zedalvea841
@zedalvea841 3 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to be a collector, I would collect stamps, not magic cards. I am in it for the game.
@Cinomod6066
@Cinomod6066 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. I play magic I collect Pokémon cards because they look better imo and the card quality is leagues better than the crap wizards puts out sadly.
@FamousCoozie
@FamousCoozie 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cinomod6066 I've recently started collecting Pokemon cards because of those exact same reasons. The quality is SO MUCH better.
@ralphpetagna3778
@ralphpetagna3778 3 жыл бұрын
The market for stamps is dead, sadly. ;) If I was interested in the Pokemon TCG as a game, I would have switched as soon as they started putting digital product redemption codes in the product. That is, by far, one of the smartest ideas for a TCG committed to making a good game for the players, not the corporate coffers.
@GambitsEnd
@GambitsEnd 3 жыл бұрын
@@ralphpetagna3778 It can be both. Digital pack codes in their physical boosters encourages cross-collection among players who normally wouldn't. A physical player may see the code and try out the digital version and may occasionally buy a digital pack if they like it. Meanwhile, digital players figure they may occasionally want a physical pack and will still get a digital product for their effort. In either case, it promotes one player type interacting with the other, which is good for business and for players. WotC is just too damn greedy to bother.
@ralphpetagna3778
@ralphpetagna3778 3 жыл бұрын
@@GambitsEnd That was exactly my point.
@roboGansta
@roboGansta 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Hasbro has single handedly caused my entire play group to collectively quit
@chrisgould101
@chrisgould101 3 жыл бұрын
Nice man
@shiroimarcio
@shiroimarcio 3 жыл бұрын
The thing the most make me shocked, they make the sets like one year before the launch, and hey TESTED companions, Oko and etc. JLK tested jeweled lotus and told them it's a bad card, that shouldn't be printed..... 0 F*cks given... Why they even test if they're printing broken cards to sell packs and ban they later if (when) they cause problems?
@ralphpetagna3778
@ralphpetagna3778 3 жыл бұрын
Do we all remember when we had all those Standard bannings a few years back, WotC announced the "Play Design" team, that was supposed to consist of top-level Magic players who would test sets out and reduce the need for bannings? I remember this well, because the power level of Standard, and the constant need for bannings, drove me from the format. I was hopeful they would fix it. Instead, it's only getting *worse*. How has the entire Play Design team not been fired?
@wafflesonfire9716
@wafflesonfire9716 3 жыл бұрын
@@ralphpetagna3778 I don’t really think the Play Design team should be fired because I don’t believe it’s their fault these cards are getting through. Most likely the play design team is telling WOTC that these cards are busted and shouldn’t be printed but all WOTC hears is “ANOTHER CHASE CARD” that they can bring money in off of.
@ralphpetagna3778
@ralphpetagna3778 3 жыл бұрын
@@wafflesonfire9716 then isn't employing them a complete waste of money? Remember that Hasbro demands the corporate coffers be filled even more by Magic! The Play Design team, then, is just a drag on profits!
@squee147
@squee147 3 жыл бұрын
@@ralphpetagna3778 not if it gives players hope standard will be better and keeps them buying cards. Play design is pr
@ralphpetagna3778
@ralphpetagna3778 3 жыл бұрын
@@squee147 How has that worked out with all the bannings the last two years?
@MrSchmuseKuh
@MrSchmuseKuh 3 жыл бұрын
I wish every hobby could have a member of their community like you are to Magic. A true supporter of the game. Happy i discovered Magic again to see this and your contribution to it!
@SiymPai
@SiymPai 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! It is much needed for everyone to see where this game is heading. Been playing since 2001. . . I absolutely despise these collector packs! All product vis booster packs just feels bad now. I've enjoyed not buying anything this year due to it. I've bought a few singles but that's it now. . . Ughhh those collector packs are a downfall!
@werbearjack
@werbearjack 3 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention is all Arena gets. I think this more than anything shows how massively WotC screwed up this game. It's continued demise is so unimportant it doesn't even make the list. Whoever runs Arena hates its players and wants them to have as little fun as possible - and I don't know why they want the game to fail so badly... As long as "Daily Wins 0/15" is the main goal they present to you you know Arena is not worth playing as this "quest" goes completely counter everything MtG stands for. They either don't understand what Magic is or if they understand it they deliberately go against all that just to make the game worse for players - for whatever reason hoping no one will ever start the game again.
@NoName-yd9fi
@NoName-yd9fi 3 жыл бұрын
It was not meant to be good. Honesty is out of the table, accept it and move on.
@xAnonymousss
@xAnonymousss 3 жыл бұрын
mtg arena is so horrible, try out pokemon online trading card instead. first off you can use unlimited codes unlike arena...the game is a TCG there too, so you cna trade with others to get what you want and codes online are really REALLY cheap. arena on the other hand....yeah lmao
@RiseInAfterlife
@RiseInAfterlife 3 жыл бұрын
I am kinda happy that a simple shop update somehow completely broke my MTGA client (infinite asset error checks on startup) and I finally moved away and uninstalled it.
@knickknack4338
@knickknack4338 3 жыл бұрын
Re: Removal of Jumpstart from Arena. Like several great things Wotc have done with Magic and then abandoned, removing Jumpstart from Arena is like capturing lightning in a bottle, and then removing the cork.
@tatz717
@tatz717 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they figured that it wasn't fair to provide digital access to a product that they can't provide in physical form either.
@fastydave
@fastydave 3 жыл бұрын
A month was more than long enough for jumpstart. It became very repetitive very quickly.
@barbaros99
@barbaros99 3 жыл бұрын
"I want to see a corporation not use profit as a measuring stick for success." Yeah, good luck with that, Prof.
@foxdragoon84
@foxdragoon84 3 жыл бұрын
Should've said "short-term" profit. A lot of these tactics are self-cannibalizing and hurt the long-term trust in a company. Growth, growth, growth over steadiness and reliability.
@ichiel1898
@ichiel1898 3 жыл бұрын
it should be its biggest priority, but not the sole criterium everything else needs to be sacrificed for
@WalkerJonas
@WalkerJonas 3 жыл бұрын
Well thats basically the entire nonprofit sector though.
@Stroggoii
@Stroggoii 3 жыл бұрын
Sustainable growth used to be the goal, now it's just "we're beholden to our stockholders" no matter what and look where that lead Toys R' Us, an $11B hole in the american economy because loan sharks wanted to cut some loses on unrelated investments. The sooner the socioeconomically dissatisfied stop barking at the "hurr durr capitalism bad" three and we altogether focus on the real reason behind companies being forced into self-cannibalizing, unwanted mergers and identity loss for daring to go IPO. The sooner we can go back to market success being the company reaching it's 75th year anniversary with a growing workforce and satisfied consumers, not paying for a bankster who doesn't know what the fuck they're invested in their fourth luxury yacht this quarter.
@jzoobs
@jzoobs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stroggoii if the real problem isn't "hurr durr capitalism bad", why don't you tell us what is?
@roguenoob
@roguenoob Жыл бұрын
I'm watching the videos for 2020 and 2021 in preparation of the 2022 one. I can't wait for the 3 hours special Prof will have to release for this year
@andy3818
@andy3818 3 жыл бұрын
Hey prof would you do a video or post walking us through the books on your shelf? I actually picked up Sword of Shannara because I saw it behind you in a video and would love to know what else is back there!
@happybrain2674
@happybrain2674 3 жыл бұрын
the prof: "buy singles!" me atm: "print cards!"
@brugalter94
@brugalter94 3 жыл бұрын
Me atm: selling out of this shitshow.
@ghuruzilla
@ghuruzilla 3 жыл бұрын
me atm: "proxy cards!"
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын
I think these new MTG ''designers'' don't understand how to make a card interesting and NOT overpowered let alone R&D test the cards!
@benjamincarter6095
@benjamincarter6095 3 жыл бұрын
Print NEW cards
@MaliciousTachyons
@MaliciousTachyons 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, proxy EVERYTHING.
@DopeyDragonz
@DopeyDragonz 3 жыл бұрын
2020 has been the absolute nadir of my interest in Magic, and I've been playing for nearly 20 years. I'm honestly not interested in spending my money on the game much anymore and if it weren't for the fact that I find Kaldheim aesthetically interesting enough to check out spoilers (I'm a big Norse fan), I'd be disengaged from the game entirely.
@BigMoai
@BigMoai 3 жыл бұрын
This is a certified hood classic
@justcards5495
@justcards5495 3 жыл бұрын
Well said.. As one of the "whales" I can say all of these reasons contributed to me completely losing interest in new products and entry level formats. We need Wizards to go back to a game first mentality or Magic as we knew it is over and it will only persist in localized community driven formats.
@asaffin1
@asaffin1 3 жыл бұрын
I actually would very much enjoy a video of you covering all the controversies as well. I probably have not even heard of all of them and I like being aware of that sort of thing, so having them all collected in a single video and discussed in your trademark even-handed style would be great.
@arturol.m.7245
@arturol.m.7245 3 жыл бұрын
Never have I been so eager to feel disappointed!
@luccacamillo
@luccacamillo 3 жыл бұрын
"Walking Dead has paralells with Magic because it features zombies and combat", LOL. If these are the standards, you can point parallels to pretty much anything! The biggest fear fans had about the Secret Lair is that it opened a precedent for Magic to become a new Top Trumps. They not only completely ignored the main concerns, but also downplayed the level of overall backlash and rubbed in our faces that it made them a lot of money anyway. That's not just bad PR, it's kind of a douchebag move.
@neomegaryumk2971
@neomegaryumk2971 3 жыл бұрын
I had a very similar thought when he said that. Minecraft has zombies, skeletons, using the land for resources, some different settings/worlds, etc. Guess they gotta make a Minecraft Secret Lair now.
@luccacamillo
@luccacamillo 3 жыл бұрын
@@neomegaryumk2971 Yeah, and with mechanically unique cards of course.
@worldkat1393
@worldkat1393 3 жыл бұрын
Secret lair: Community, you know it had that zombie episode once and someone shot a gun so combat. Give me Pierce Hawthorne.....
@bobbobberson9103
@bobbobberson9103 3 жыл бұрын
You're completely right about that pivot in magic. Its what caused me to walk away from the game and stop playing. I just could no longer justify supporting a company that keeps showing that they don't actually care about their players
@jeroenwieringa6420
@jeroenwieringa6420 3 жыл бұрын
Big mistakes, fueled by greed. Reminds me of EA,'s lootbox disaster. Short term cash at the cost of long term health of the game.
@Nerethilsan
@Nerethilsan 3 жыл бұрын
I was so happy to hear you left Magic :Arena! I did so too and always felt I was alone in that battlefield
@ericjames2719
@ericjames2719 3 жыл бұрын
"hire more people, pay everyone gads and gads of money." Please. Prof, this video is the kinda advocacy I love seeing from you.
@hacksignify
@hacksignify 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this man just dropped a disstrack on wizards
@Turn2Ugin
@Turn2Ugin 3 жыл бұрын
He's the best at that
@benjaminbreedlove5658
@benjaminbreedlove5658 3 жыл бұрын
I just miss the excitement of pulling foil cards in my normal draft boosters. Sometimes pulling a foil rare is worth less than the normal rare because of collectors boosters. I can’t afford collectors packs, so it saddens me that I don’t get to look forward to those foil rare or mythic pulls anymore.
@angelom9685
@angelom9685 3 жыл бұрын
The streams are unwatchable without being angry about the BS they spill.
@aaronvincent816
@aaronvincent816 3 жыл бұрын
"my hope is to have 2021 be the year that Magic becomes about the game again" that is a statement that even 10 years ago I could already tell was coming, unfortunately
@nicolasneumeier7690
@nicolasneumeier7690 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite part was where he said: "No standard bans"
@nomukun1138
@nomukun1138 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish he had said that more.
@henriqueloureiro3932
@henriqueloureiro3932 3 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest mistakes for me was the huge power creep of those last collections
@SmugLookingBarrel
@SmugLookingBarrel 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, but I wouldn't say that was specifically a mistake of 2020. I think that started in at least 2019, probably back to 2018 with War of the Spark, and is just a continuing trend.
@darkblastal1744
@darkblastal1744 3 жыл бұрын
FUCK Oko ! excuse my french
@henriqueloureiro3932
@henriqueloureiro3932 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmugLookingBarrel that for sure, but this year it looks like it has peaked
@lucario467
@lucario467 3 жыл бұрын
@@henriqueloureiro3932 Has HOPEFULLY peaked. For all we know we get even more pushed BS in Kaldheim and beyond.
@GambitsEnd
@GambitsEnd 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmugLookingBarrel Power creep exists in every set and in every sustained game and franchise ever. It's just been excessively bad lately since WotC stopped caring about any semblance of balance or game design and decided to just cash in as fast and hard as possible. See how much blood they can squeeze from the stone.
@ericfranklin1802
@ericfranklin1802 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more with this list. Seems WotC have been more than ok tarnishing the soul of the game if it makes them a quick buck these days and unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be enough players who care about that to really put a stop to that behaviour.
@cadesnyder4126
@cadesnyder4126 3 жыл бұрын
“For the financially well-off- or, perhaps the financially foolish” Wow Prof really taking shots at me like that huh
@dougswanson4553
@dougswanson4553 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome shade.
@GabagoolGang
@GabagoolGang 3 жыл бұрын
if the show fits, pay 2 colorless mana to equip
@kittenclanclan
@kittenclanclan 3 жыл бұрын
"Pffff, okay, what are they *this* year? Did the YT algorithm eat the 'best things' recommendation for me AGAIN this year?? How many... years... have I been watching this channel? Three, already? This channel got me back into MTG almost on its own after years, and it finally got me really, truly into it for the first time. Huh." Thank you, Prof. Don't ever go away. Years ago, I couldn't imagine ever getting back into this community thanks to how bigoted and crusty it felt, and now I feel I'd only ever leave it if I saw you go. You, who let me see there's so much fun to be had with this game and that there are great players out there who are part of why it's so great. Keep being critical and keep being you
@YEIYO1
@YEIYO1 3 жыл бұрын
i just started to play and tought the defective bended cars were only mine, i bought 4 bundles, starter kit, deck builder toolkit, planeswalker decks, ALL BEND!, too bad cause im really enjoying the game, but with this i wont buy any more things, atleast until they fix it, that or baning all those walking dead cars, those were not bend what an irony.
@keenanevans7888
@keenanevans7888 3 жыл бұрын
The card bending is just foils. Which kinda double sucks, because they are supposed to be pretty premium ones, but you can't even play with them because the quality is so bad
@BindingOfMe
@BindingOfMe 3 жыл бұрын
@@keenanevans7888 The card bending is absolutely not a foil only problem. I bought a Throne of Eldraine box just before christmas anf every card in the damn box was curled, just the other way around how foils normally curl. You can still play with them since the curling isn't as bad as the foils but just comparing it to some of my old cards, like foil Savage Lands from Shards of Alara had absolutely 0 bend or curl to it and it had been sitting a random box without a sleeve who knows how many years. The quality of the cards overall has dropped in a significant and noticable way if you've been playing for a while.
@ralphengland8559
@ralphengland8559 3 жыл бұрын
@@keenanevans7888 I finally bought a pack of Commander Legends, the next day EVERY card in the pack was warped. The Foil moreso than the rest, but it was every card. They're terrible, feeling like cheap counterfeits.
@noahwolff5455
@noahwolff5455 3 жыл бұрын
Just got a card that should of been $15...it has an error in the art where the machine messed up (like an ink bubble). Worthless now. Doesn't sound like much but if that happens a few times it adds up.
@termi6523
@termi6523 3 жыл бұрын
great idea! if you still want more cards i recommend buying lots off of ebay from private sellers and caards printed before 2018 because those are mostly ine in quality and they dont bring profit to wizards but instead the community!
@joncardenas3203
@joncardenas3203 3 жыл бұрын
The mistakes this year are going to make top 10 mistakes of the game history. Thats how bad this year was.
@zacharyklewin3603
@zacharyklewin3603 3 жыл бұрын
wotc 2021: hold my beer
@ruaridhusher4373
@ruaridhusher4373 3 жыл бұрын
Optimistic outlook ya got there
@DylanCEdh
@DylanCEdh 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t play MtG arena cause it messes big time with my epilepsy. After hearing about how the whole thing is from this and my friend, I’m kind of glad.
@ashenwuss1651
@ashenwuss1651 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the medical conditions. Stay safe and have fun!
@don8535
@don8535 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your medical condition chief, but I have to mention the irony that Arena has been so poorly executed that you're glad for it in this instance 🤦🤦 good job Hasbro
@spooplegeist5260
@spooplegeist5260 3 жыл бұрын
Is it because of all the animations? Because the sheer amount of stuff happening on screen when I play makes me anxious.
@DylanCEdh
@DylanCEdh 3 жыл бұрын
@@spooplegeist5260 100% Even on the lowest brightness it does no good
@joeferreti9442
@joeferreti9442 3 жыл бұрын
I have problems with the animations and presentation on MTGA, too. It deeply frustrates me for some reason.
@jeremywrentzel
@jeremywrentzel 2 жыл бұрын
Great points. I'm disappointed that people hardly want to play anymore, and when they do, it's only commander. Besides the slow decline of casual players, I'm annoyed with how complicated and crazy some of the new abilities and formats and cards in general. I get that things have to change and grow to stay relevant, but at this point, you have to know and own a massive amount of cards just to play at the local card shops
@nathanielb5659
@nathanielb5659 3 жыл бұрын
so glad card print quality got better, the STA lightning bolt a friend got me for my birthday we both thought might be a fake because the quality was so awful including the rare hologram at the bottom being off of the placement, highly damaged and the surface texture was completely wrong. i still can’t believe how bad it was, so bad we thought it was a fake is impressive
@jessicaf7236
@jessicaf7236 3 жыл бұрын
Should add the fact that many of wotc actions are further hurting lgs's business. Not only have mom and pop stores had to close events for covid, they've been shorted on products while amazon, walmart, and target get their shelves stocked.
@GambitsEnd
@GambitsEnd 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that a focus on highly expensive, limited "collectors" products are almost exclusively sold directly via WotC website or exclusive big-box brand stores. And that every year there is a further decrease in community support from WotC. Plus other things that continue to hurt hobby shops.
@MilkshakeSkunkette
@MilkshakeSkunkette 3 жыл бұрын
one of the few magic content creators to call wizards out on this shit; honestly, remember when Maro announced they felt having contention exclusive cards were a mistake? and they wouldn't be doing that again? ...only for the walking dead to just show up and go; "....so that was a lie."
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 жыл бұрын
i love game knights but when jimmy and josh said in their response to twd sl that they werent influenced by wotc at all my eyes rolled so hard since they have slowly stopped criticizing wotc
@MilkshakeSkunkette
@MilkshakeSkunkette 3 жыл бұрын
@@donb7519 yeah i also love game knights- but i couldnt help but think; "Suuuuuurely you could make a case to say, there considered silver boarder until reprints hit a real set"...? :/
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 жыл бұрын
@@MilkshakeSkunkette not to mention i was already upset with jimmy cause mulan 2020 had just released and they made jeremy hambly sound like a bogeyman
@misomiso8228
@misomiso8228 3 жыл бұрын
18:33 i actually stopped playing over that stream it was terrible
@IAMUtubeSockPuppet
@IAMUtubeSockPuppet 3 жыл бұрын
All the boxes of expensive shoes visible in the background really drive in the feeling of corporate mealy mouthiness and disconnection.
@randyrhoads4737
@randyrhoads4737 3 жыл бұрын
God... *smh*... I'm at the companions part of this video so far, and I must say, prof, you have an amazing argument for all of this. But your description of companions REALLY hit me. How you said you have to look up the rules online to find out how to play the cards... Simply READING the card itself is not enough... You have really opened my mind further to see that MTG is a broken fucking game. I mostly play arena now, so I guess I sort of didn't see it the same way as most paper (especially newer players) see it. It's truly incredible how greedy Wizards has seemed to have become very recently. I've never really been a big fan of secret lairs if they are to be legal cards, as they are VERY limited. Gosh.. soo many things to talk about here. Love the content!
@jaytf310
@jaytf310 3 жыл бұрын
His Bitterblossom art on the wall looks crooked and it's driving me nuts.
@briancomparativo749
@briancomparativo749 3 жыл бұрын
Walking dead made me quit magic.
@brug1313
@brug1313 3 жыл бұрын
Also like how wotc knows their quality sucks, hence the “no nonsense” named non-foil secret lair bundle
@brewcrew7550
@brewcrew7550 3 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, I actually liked Companion. However, at the same time I understood why it had to be changed. Can that be possible? Liking it but knowing it was not good for the game? Can two thing be true at once? It was nice to have a change like that for a little while. But I too was getting a little sick of the companion mechanic after a few weeks because every deck had to have one to be competitive. And that is where the fundamental flaw was in the mechanic.
@davidlundquist1979
@davidlundquist1979 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a good analogy in the spring that pointed out, "If Commander only had ten commanders to choose from, it would be pretty miserable too." If they had produced more companions with each subsequent set, it would have improved things. It also would have permanently made the game more like Commander, so I'm happier it shook out this way, but it definitely would have made companions more tolerable. Unless everyone just kept playing Lurrus.
@brewcrew7550
@brewcrew7550 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidlundquist1979 yes, this is a good point. And if companions would have made the game like commander, then just play commander, right? I think your point is spot on.
@brewcrew7550
@brewcrew7550 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidlundquist1979 on another thought, if you did expand the card pool perhaps it could be it's own format with the original rules. So it would be like a 60 card commander and everyone would be forced to use a companion in the format so no one is at a disadvantage. Might be interesting.
@rastrisfrustreslosgomez544
@rastrisfrustreslosgomez544 3 жыл бұрын
I both like the mechanic and don't think it was bad for the game. We got 1 broken companion in lurrus, 2 good ones (zirda and yorion), 1 decent obosh and the other 6 were paperweight. The whole mechanic paid for lurrus sins
@tbzergfortheswarm5993
@tbzergfortheswarm5993 3 жыл бұрын
I love u dude! So many people do not get how overpricing a product works and thinks it's okay to do so. It's not for many resons and i love that u get that and show it in sich a good way! Keep it up prof! 😎😍
@luiscastro6204
@luiscastro6204 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the errata they made to 5 mana Teferi. Originally the card stated you HAD to untap 2 lands at your end step. This ended up tricking players into untapping their opponents lands when resolved.
@JoeRyuKen
@JoeRyuKen 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a video detailing the controversies and lawsuits.
@VanderOZ
@VanderOZ 3 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is solid gold.
@Visionary13MayuriK12
@Visionary13MayuriK12 3 жыл бұрын
I'd still look forward to a list of Wizards controversies
@TheGregoryodd
@TheGregoryodd 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Death’s Gate hardcovers in the background! Now I want to visit Haplo and Zifnab again. Thanks as always for the great content, good sir!
@XBomyX
@XBomyX 3 жыл бұрын
Man I was feeling kinda off already when Mark Heggen started Product Architecture for Modern Horizons which is forcing to buy new Modern Staples, then seeing him justifying the unique crossover collectibles in front of a Sneaker wall was the farest from gaming I've seen Magic since I fell into it over 4 years ago. Thanks as always for the keen criticism prof!
@jacethemindblower6836
@jacethemindblower6836 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the magic community boycott some of these “collector only” magic products. As THE professor, you have the influence on the community to take a stand against Wizards. As a community, let’s prove to them that our voices will not be ignored and return to $4 booster packs with expeditions!
@neurotoxic6407
@neurotoxic6407 3 жыл бұрын
To be effective, the player base would have to boycott all products. The high end products are primarily purchased and horded by the "investors"
@kylemcgowan1
@kylemcgowan1 3 жыл бұрын
Hey at least they stopped trying to kill us with those horrific Mythic Edition releases. Hasbro store anyone? I still have PTSD.
@worldkat1393
@worldkat1393 3 жыл бұрын
Secret lairs are arguably worse with many people having even received their ever. Only Americans can really get them and even then you as an American are praying to a higher being for them to even arrive.
@kylemcgowan1
@kylemcgowan1 3 жыл бұрын
@@worldkat1393 It's only because they are pre-ordered. The timing from actual release to delivery feels off beat. A simple concept, but seemingly complex to stupid humans. I got all of my secret lairs without any problem. However, I did have a giant problem ordering two Mythic Editions and having my orders vanish without any notice of cancellation. Even the screenshots of order numbers didn't help me out. So I never got them - or the "apology" uncut foil sheet. That's all on WotC/Hasbro.
@worldkat1393
@worldkat1393 3 жыл бұрын
@@kylemcgowan1 Still waiting on my Thalia one and my ultimate edition came with hair in the plastic cases and damage to my scalding tarn. In my opinion far worse then any experience I had with mythic edition, at least they gave me a uncut sheet when they fucked that up....
@Office_Zombie
@Office_Zombie 3 жыл бұрын
Your first statement about how they are targeting "Whales" while ignoring the general player, this is what Warhammer was doing. It wasn't until they started turning things around and bringing back the general players, did their stock start increasing again.
@zeromaster1997
@zeromaster1997 3 жыл бұрын
It is hard to understand your comment without a more specific frame time, but besides that the current state of warhammer doesn't really line up giving players in general a good time, their limited big box releases destroy the approachability of the game, of the hobby aspect, you have 170- 200 (short term profit on already expensive product) bucks now to give you unproven stuff, now it has become a staple, how bad now get it at 3 times what you should be paying
@Office_Zombie
@Office_Zombie 3 жыл бұрын
@@zeromaster1997 May 2017. The limited big boxes are to allow people to get into the game with a starting army. You don't need to buy them but they do help buff existing armies as well. Yes their prices are still high but they haven't really increased too much since 2017.
@MrRuff-cc3lg
@MrRuff-cc3lg 3 жыл бұрын
You are 💯% correct, Professor! Bans are EXACTLY why I stopped playing Standard. I was spending several hundred dollars per deck while playing standard and getting frustrated only to see a key card banned. I even stopped following content creators who cheered the bans.
@cronchable
@cronchable 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Agree with most of what you said, and I hope you and other magic content creators continue to voice their concerns loudly and openly! For me personally your channel has just become sort of a safe haven, you amplify the voices of other content creators and us in the community and we know that you at least are listening, since WotC will not. You're the rock that splits the wave of lost hope in WotC, the rock that refuses to sell out and take excuses. Thanks for being our rock, prof.
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