The $50 6 Core Alternative to an i7

[@CMDRunematti]

does chrome use up all the 288GB of ram then?

[@joshuaenriquez6187]

Ujvári Mátyás Google chrome's wetdream

[@plamshaw]

Ujvári Mátyás just download the 288gb off the internet

[@GiancarloDiamond]

go to the Opera my friend

[@plamshaw]

Geo C ?

[@GiancarloDiamond]

plamshaw www.opera.com/computer

[@SimonZellox]

Are you telling me that a 50€ Xeon from 2010 beats my fx-6300? Are you telling me that I could *upgrade* to this older CPU? *jumps off the roof*

[@davidjohnson8122]

Simon My x5470@4 GHz, which is an older quad core from 2008, cost me 45 dollars and also beats your CPU in single-threaded scores lol!

[@SimonZellox]

David Johnson ffs

[@lpmorgan90]

The Q6600 core 2 quad out performs a FX6300... I had the 4300 and the 8350... Both great overclockers but as far as price to performance? Buy an Ivy Bridge CPU and Mobo

[@SimonZellox]

Moggy1000 Maybe the X5650 but certainly not the q6600.

[@davidjohnson8122]

Moggy1000 Damn, no wonder the q6600 is still so popular, even though it's not even a real quad core lol! That's sad, let's see if Zen fixes this!

[@Blackmagic404]

Get yourself a used Workstation that uses LGA 1366 CPU sockets and you can build a great system based on this processor for even less. I scored an HP z600 that was off lease for $199 USD shipped which already had an x5650 in the first CPU slot and a Quadro 4000 GPU. I found a matching CPU for the second slot and another 3 sticks of ECC ram for $30 each and now for $260 total, my system has dual X5650s and 48 GB of DDR3 ECC ram.

[@Gr1mm4]

Done the same myself, Westmere 32nm Xeon x5670 with 3x4GB DiMMs and it's a monster for under £200

[@GTFour]

That’s pretty cool

[@frig7014]

I have a pretty similar system but it's a dell precision t5500, similarly a monster system for the price

[@kartiloco9929]

Do you basically get double the speed if you got 2 x the same CPU installed or is it gonna be a bit less than that?

[@toyotamarkIIjz]

Guys I have 120$ and I need a motherboard/cpu/psu Amy suggestions?

[@rushnerd]

guess this is proof that old Xeons are still monsters. Wonder how much that chip was at launch.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

+Ｒｕｓｈｎｅｒｄ it was about $1000

[@tabamon97]

Ｒｕｓｈｎｅｒｄ not really, those are results that can be achieved with any i7, even i5 in some cases, the important part is:how does it perform when multitasking, those 6 core monsters don't really show their full potential unless streaming, rendering and gaming all at the same time, just saying, should they should have showed some rendering benchmarks and maybe the 7zip benchmark, cinebench and more, as well as gaming

[@TheMuffinMan73]

I'm still rocking an i7-980X, an X58 6-core, 12-thread processor on the 1366 socket, and I've also got mine running at 4.0 GHz. From what I understand, our chips are pretty much identical except that the 980X runs higher clocked out of the box and has an unlocked multiplier. It's amazing how this seven-year-old CPU is still kicking ass right up there with the 5820k. I can't believe how my PC has lasted nearly a decade and is still going strong.

[@KyaseLGaminG]

I too would say there should have been benchmarks like 7zip and cinebench... Not games... People don't look for that many threads just for games.

[@therealmerican]

i'm also on that generation but quadcore i7 870 @ 4 ghz and for gaming it's still alright. it's crazy how long these chips are usable. if i had known this i would have spent more on my mainboard

[@topo3690]

plx dont forget me when your rich and famous

[@guyguyga1]

you're* Don't forget your grammar.

[@nimbydimby]

he meant to wright click

[@guyguyga1]

dbs games I was neither aggressive, nor was I malicious. I was simply correcting him. Judging from your response, I'm guessing that you're one of those knee-jerk imbeciles who thrive on safe zones.

[@labombaromba]

dbs games it's* ;)

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

who wants to be famous? richness and no fame is where i am at and it's teriffic im retired for life and nobody knows i don't have line-ups of AIDS infested skanks outside my house i can do whatever the fuck i want, and not have media coverage etc etc richness and 0 fame is the best balance

[@joetheman74]

Everyone commenting about testing the cpu wrong seems to be missing the point. This review tells me exactly what I want to know as a gamer. Can I run the latest games on high on a $50 used chip. Yes the gpu matters too but he only used a 1060 not 1080 so this tells me I can ebay a pretty respectable $500.00 US gaming rig including the ram. I would love to see the numbers this system does with a 1050ti.

[@IshmamKhan]

This video is hotter than a knife at 1000 degrees. Ill go now.

[@joukovilander]

Ishmam Khan hot stuff

[@djolexpet940]

just go

[@theenhancedmatrix3127]

Can't wait to see 1000 degrees hot knife vs intel pentium d

[@theenhancedmatrix3127]

ozayevable The boldness of "1000 degrees" and "knife" bit was unnecessary.

[@zaphyrwalker7016]

Ishmam Khan DAMMIT!

[@artyfly100]

use low settings when comparing CPU's, you are putting all the stress on the GPU by using ultra settings

[@zzoinks]

arthur staal Well, the performance seems to differ with different CPUs, so I would say that this is fair.

[@artyfly100]

***** true, but he is running with a gpu bottleneck most of the time... That said nobody plays on lower settings if they can bump them up so I guess it makes sense

[@diamondburned5229]

doesn't matter, frames differences spotted anyway

[@pierre4857]

arthur staal i almost always play on low, whether i can play on high or not

[@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432]

the point here is real life application, not theoretical comparisons. You are more likely to use the cpu on high settings.

[@HarlesBently]

What's funny is I have a i7-930 on this socket. Got the cpu, arock x58 extreme motherboard and 6 gig of ram 1000mhz 3 sticks. That was 110 bucks. Put a 460rx 2 gig MSI gpu, evga 80+ 500 watt psu and a cheapish case and 1tb WD. Came up to bout 300 bucks total. 4 core 8 thread. GTA on mix of medium and high settings runs about 50 to 70 fps at 1080p. Dirt 3 at over 90fps at ultra. Asseta Corsa is over 90fps ultra. DS3 solid steady 60fps at medium settings. 45 to 60 at ultra. Need for Speed Shift ultra at over 100fps. Haven't tried other games as i don't have them. Sadly my obs recording (using same system) didn't really come out smooth xD cause gta5 runs this little machine pretty hard.

[@fullmetaljacket7]

The thing I like about this channel are the benchmarks. No synthetic tests BS. Sure, tests like 3dmark and such, will show you which one is the fastest, but I prefer in game benchmarks.

[@Wruff]

zxz1997 you have to remember gaming performance is not what everyone is looking for so they show the real benchmarks for that

[@djsensacion7]

I would've liked to see some rendering benchmarks

[@leleo53000]

Except that game benchmarks make no sense for a cpu ...

[@fullmetaljacket7]

Edhebi It does. Some games are very dependent on the cpu. If you're using your cpu for rendering for example, you should look for a rendering benchmark.

[@leleo53000]

yeah, but those games aren't usually the ones with the fancy graphics. Games like Civiliation, most of the Tycoon games are cpu heavy, since the have to preocess of lot of individual units. Also, gaming and rendering might look similar, but they aren't.

[@patrikszabo9906]

When you get excited that you could get cheaper gaming parts but realize this CPU is not really sold in your country and costs way more than 50 bucks on used...

[@WellBeSerious12]

GTR Fanboy: Try buying from a foreign eBay, shipping depends on the seller.

[@danieldukai1380]

I really don't like the idea of used CPUs. I mean, even my current motherboard is not supported anymore, so if it dies, I will most likely not get a new one.

[@8cow945]

www.amazon.com/Intel-X5650-Processor-Socket-LGA1366/dp/B003EM6CJE Intel seems to ship to many countries

[@grads4954]

Buy on eBay got mine for $15

[@imnota]

Buy from aliexpress,from china,from old servers,20 dollars and can come to eu in 2 weeks,idk about us shipping time.

[@no_name900]

"leave a like if you liked this video, leave a dislike if you didnt" 😂😂😂 I'm liking the video for honesty

[@SquidOfOverkill]

I got 12 cores for $60 and a mobo for $20, 64gb ram for $80(for chrome)

[@diogomaia4808]

Squid Of Overkill Yeah and I got 2 titans XPs for 1 dollar

[@SquidOfOverkill]

www.ebay.com/itm/361142069572?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT www.ebay.com/itm/Server-RAM-64GB-8x-8GB-PC2-5300P-ECC-Registered-DDR2-667MHz-2Rx4-DIMM-Memory-LOT-/371795135819?hash=item5690b78d4b:g:HacAAOSwA3dYMxKY www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X4SM62A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@SquidOfOverkill]

not including drives or a case, or cpu coolers

[@SquidOfOverkill]

this is the gcard Im using, I already had it laying around www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GTX-745-FROM-ALIENWARE-X51-Single-Slot-HDMI-DVI-VGA-TDP-55Watts-/172457974808?hash=item28274bdc18:g:tv8AAOSw6DtYXqlF

[@diogomaia4808]

Squid Of Overkill Well 12c is different from 6c and 64gb of ddr2 at 667mhz? Are you trying to run a server in 2005?

[@ahmedp800]

"Hello everyone and Welcome" For a micro second I thought I was watching Engineering Explained.

[@iggyj]

Go to aliexpress and you can find the same components for: x5650: 30$ lga1366 motherboard: 90$ thank me later :)

[@XFROOS]

Iggy J is the motherboard accept overclocking ?

[@iggyj]

Yes, since back in the day the 1366 socket was meant for much more expensive systems, they usually always have overclocking. Just make sure it is the x58 chipset and you should be fine.

[@ALEX69177]

I can't seem to find any except above 150USD

[@XFROOS]

Salty Bacon yep they are not cheap anymore .. i got mine from website for local deals

[@alexandrelopes369]

what was the model of the mb you got? I can't seem to find many 1366 x58 xeon compatible, at least on paper.

[@ArakSoda]

motherboard for socket 1366 is difficult to find :'(

[@needlessoptions]

Not on eBay. There's hundreds of results.

[@ruinedlasagna]

WJG Indonesia I have an evga ftw3 1366 board that I listed on ebay for $89.99 + shipping, I use a dual socket board now with dual x5660s and a gtx 1080

Server boards are cheaper like i got a supermicro one for 36 Bucks

[@robertleeluben]

There's used workstations for

[@ruinedlasagna]

but those workstations can't overclock, which makes this cpu worthless

[@Evan2]

X5650s are now just 15 dollars on Ebay. For that price, you'd be stupid not to buy one. I picked up a Dell Precision workstation computer off craigslist for 35 bucks and threw an x5650 in it as well as a 1060, and I now have a monster of a gaming computer for no more than 250 dollars.

[@Paintdizzle17]

JUST BOUGHT ONE FOR $23 AND GOT A MOBO fOR $42

[@trv88r]

Paintdizzle17 nice I got one for $20. Did u over clock? I could only get mine to 3.15ghz :(

[@jamesgarrett3000]

Tr3vor what motherboard are you using?

[@trv88r]

James Garrett a gigabyte ga-x58-ud4p

[@jamesgarrett3000]

tell me your overclock settings. you should be getting much higher. most people get atleast 4ghz

[@trv88r]

People with the same motherboard have the same problem, but I’ve done 1.35v on vcore and 1.3 on qpi and I just can’t pass 150 bclk

[@legendareNz]

Maybe one day you will actually tell cpu usage percentages, gpu usage, temperatures and such.. just looking at fps isnt a benchmark.

[@snchez2106]

frame time also matters.

[@abdullahredwan4585]

The problem is not in the cpu, but in finding a good reliable board for it. FYI I have an overclocked xeon to 4ghz.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

+abdullah redwan awesome, and yeah it's the board that's the annoying part

[@Psittac20]

yeah, I almost built a dual xeon system because I found some chips for dirt cheap. Can't remember the socket but I did look at the 1366 as well. The motherboard I could find for an affordable price..... wouldn't fit in any server cases because it was a proprietary supermicro mb size. I currently have my 3570k acting as a quasie server in a desktop case with 4x hdd's and storage spaces. I'm bouncing around the idea of getting a 7700k and z270 when it comes out in the next few month's and making my 5820k into a server/backup game machine and the 3570k will be another backup machine. Or I might just put my 5820k back together and be done with it. At any rate I hope to have a lan room in my basement and extra gaming machines is good so who knows.

[@timothyrex8734]

Just out of curiosity, what form factor is the MoBo for that Xeon platform? Also, did you have to use a specialized PSU and RAM? I seem to recall reading a few articles saying that server boards don't use the standard ATX power supply 24-pin connector, but I could be wrong. And I know that they can use ECC RAM, but I'm not sure if that's a requirement. I was actually thinking about buying some old server parts to build a PC to host a teamspeak server, a game server, and maybe also to use as a NAS file server. I was able to find a decently priced motherboards and pair of CPUs, but the motherboard was E-ATX form factor, and finding an E-ATX case for cheap was nearly impossible.

[@abdullahredwan4585]

Timothy Rex about that, no i didnt use any extraordinary psu or ram nor a motherboard for that matter. My mobo was a normal gigabyte atx board and my ram is 16gb of ddr3 and the psu is a thermaltake one. Hope this helps.

[@abdullahredwan4585]

RandomGaminginHD thanks for dropping out an opinion!

[@baassbooster]

I still sport X5670 . Still does the job in 2019

[@WhiteShark7]

I have X5675. With GTX 1060 6GB. Pretty cool!

[@baassbooster]

@@WhiteShark7 PNY GTX 1060 3GB its powerfull enough to me

[@lellienicole]

@@baassbooster I also have 1060 3gb I don't mind playing at medium

[@kero6938]

I can’t use it because my socket is lga 1151

[@Ziimbiian]

Are 769mb video cards worth it in 2016-2017?

[@assumingctrl]

lol

[@LilKiutyOfficial]

Ziimbiian. No xD

[@fullmetaljacket7]

Ziimbiian. Yes. You will be able to run tic tac toe for Windows 3.11 at 60fps most of the times.

[@simishyde288]

Ziimbiian. Basically cards under 2-3 gb are not worth today :/

[@mlgteemo3502]

enough for 1 fps

[@flaviusmihail2943]

Nice video dude. Can you do a 771 socket xeon processor modded to 775 socket video ?

[@MrBoggy101]

I'd like to see that too. He has all the necessary parts except the CPU and mod. Those only cost like 20 bucks though.

[@kajokiko]

Flavius Mihail I'd watch that

[@jonathands12]

you really have to be pinned

[@Cp12345737]

omg, thank you so much for this video!, I've been looking around for the past year as to what I could get to do my build with, as I am a full time student and can only work part time, so a

[@burntoutelectronics]

glad ive got a evga classified 1366 motherboard

[@pxrisxiv]

Zazno Productions lucky.

[@NatePick]

I have the sli model. Plan on getting this cpu. :)

[@burntoutelectronics]

NatePick yeah ive got the 3x sli model

[@presidentsad7217]

Zazno Productions for my second pc it has an asus p6t7 ws and an i7 980x, i think your mobo is better though

[@alinn.4341]

on't think that EVGA is compatible with xeons :(... aslo watch out for DFIs as well

[@Felix-ve9hs]

MSAA 8x stresses the GPU, not the CPU - you cant test a CPU properly when you´re creating a GPU Limit Even my 2600K pushes double the Frames with 2 few cores

[@mickbakkerphoto]

_Bow_ ikr

[@agnel47]

+_Bow_ who da hell are you, frikin LinusTechTips???

[@DJ_Dopamine]

He should have run the benches in 720p with AA off. Take a look at other channels that bench CPUs. You want the CPU to be the bottleneck, not the GPU!

[@nathano235]

He's not trying to see which CPU is better, he's trying to demonstrate that you can get similar gaming performance with less money. Nobody runs their games at 720p minimum settings, they try to max what their GPU can handle, this video is just to show that an older cheaper CPU can still keep up just fine with modern GPUs.

[@snoman71]

Did something similar. 'Upgraded' my daughters rig from the dual core athlon she'd been using for years to a Q9450 chip. Paid 20 bucks for it on Ebay. Slapped it into an old motherboard with 8 gigs of older RAM and my older 7870. Still shreds 1080p gaming.

[@sulev111]

why did you use max graphics with an 1060 in Crysis 3????? If you want to remove GPU bottleneck you have to use lowest settings. That's how you compare CPUs. Surprising you made that mistake given your long history in benchmarking.

[@xHypnoToad]

I was thinking the same thing

[@jefffink7777]

Ail'enduril You don't know that much about pc gaming test, do you?

[@sulev111]

how so? The GTX1060 becomes the bottleneck at these settings = the fps numbers become meaningless for valuating CPU performance.

[@BorkBorkDoggo]

Agree, this is one of his few poor benchmarks. The GPU was clearly the bottleneck here which is why the scores were just about equal all the way around.

[@OGPurePhoenix]

no such thing as 1060 bottlenecking at 1080p. My 970exoc doesn't even.

[@TheJan1101]

If you overclock your processor, could you please overclock the other one too...

[@WEEDRAX]

No. That wasn't the point.

[@WEEDRAX]

You are a moron. A fucking moron.

[@WEEDRAX]

You should not be spreading wrong information in the first place. So delete your comments or accept it.

[@WEEDRAX]

They are overclockable if your brain is capable of it, but I see, that your IQ is too low for that...

[@WEEDRAX]

Get out troll.

[@burger7167]

I think this channel has very good content. I like the fact that you focus more on the budget side of things and not the things that a lot of people can't afford. I think your channel is going to grow a lot... subbed and liked :)

[@thewulfsman]

1:40 I knew its called "Suupport" xD

[@PhantomFuryJP]

thewulfsman I saw that lol

[@samk5500]

PhantomFuryJP i saw that XF

[@Al_Paca]

cupcake1711 santori I saw that xd

[@alexandrewvice6845]

Intel overprices their crap because they know that there is no competition from AMD, but this is gonna change in 2017....

[@Tryp]

The Legend AT We're hoping it does. AMD could fuck up for all we know.

[@alexandrewvice6845]

Trypticon8 I am guessing they would their Ryzen cpus cheaper, as it would be illogical for them to sell it as the same price as intel.

[@TridonsEve]

I know you did a build with a i7-860, but it would be cool nontheless to see you overclock the heck out of an i7-920/960 with some great ram and gpu, and compare it to a modern i7(or i5), just to see how it handles in an "optimal" evironment. I love it when you not only test out "reasonable" sollutions, but push older components and compare them against newer stuff to see if they are able to stand their ground. A friend of mine still has a i7-920@stock and has thus far never felt the need to upgrade.

[@Pasi123]

I have Xeon X5670 @ 4.0GHz

[@davidjohnson8122]

Pasi123 I have x5690 @ 4.2 GHz and it averages 76 c in prime 95 after 24 hours

[@davidjohnson8122]

Pasi123 All that on air cooling btw

[@DatMake]

I have one too but @4.2ghz with aircooling

[@davidjohnson8122]

Make451 Mine is also on air cooling, using a dh-15

[@davidjohnson8122]

Make451 Hell yea, will even match a 5820k as seen in video, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAA intel sucks!

[@Mozenator]

a 1060 would bottleneck the i7... I understand your a smaller channel on a budget, but there's ways you can compensate to decrease GPU load to find where CPU hits 100% utilization

[@Mythicalgoon]

youre a fucking idiot

[@amused7928]

A 1060 is probably what you would have if you were spending this amount on a cpu and Mobo and no you were almost never get 100% on a cpu with a reasonable gpu

[@WAncouvOR]

I got a Xeon x5660 with an Asus sabertooth x58 Mobo combo for $220 usd on eBay!! including shipping! it's been running stock for about a month, very stable! soon to buy more parts, including a new CPU cooler so I can over clock! :D thanks for convincing me to buy this!!! :D great channel btw!

[@XFROOS]

MCD0И4LD TЯUMP3T congratulations 👍👍

[@WAncouvOR]

X AK thanks dude!

[@utkar5hm]

LMAO, the mobo is at around 500$ in India. :O

[@coldfusion212]

Utkarsh Mahajan the fuck? that buys a new gtx 1080 now

[@utkar5hm]

Allen Gentry yea but its due to my own country problems, increasing price by a lot by taxes

[@mema2717]

Utkarsh Mahajan fuck taxes

[@takehirolol5962]

Allen Gentry There are a bunch of multinational companies in India. What happens to PC parts that are replaced? Or everyone uses Citrix?

[@ToniML200]

I'm proud of my CPU. Just ordered a Scythe Ninja 4 for him, will it go to 4 GHz?

[@itsTyrion]

I can't promise, but the cooler won't be an issue

[@ToniML200]

BlackHawk2306 If you're thinking about my PSU, it's a Corsair VS650

[@itsTyrion]

That should be allright. What cpu is it?

[@ToniML200]

BlackHawk2306 What could it be? The Xeon in the video! That's why I said I was proud of it! :)

[@itsTyrion]

oops, I was Brain-AFK^^ that should be no problem, aslong you did not get a "bad" cpu

[@televisionandcheese]

I've been commenting for you to cover these for ages! Thanks so much, the X5650 is a beast! Only thing is I guess you not see my comments, instead of paying 150£ for a motherboard, you can pay just 40-80£ for a used Dell Precision T3500, which comes with a PSU, case, ram, some GPU, and more! It's an entire PC, all you have to do is replace the CPU with the X5650 and add a decent GPU! What's more is the motherboard in the T3500 has triple channel slots, which really increases performance, even without an overclock. It supports ECC memory too, which is about £20 cheaper than normal DDR3 :) The only real downside of using a T3500 for the X5650 is that it's harder to overclock.

[@Adzuk23]

I have this cpu @4.2ghz and it's great paired with a GTX1060. Awesome performance and beats CPUs more than three times it's price range. I would recommend the Asus Sabertooth X58 motherboard for anyone considering this build.

[@firelight7383]

What cooler are you using for your build?

[@Adzuk23]

FireLight I'm using the cooler master HFA (high air flow).. temps on max load are around 73-75 max

[@firelight7383]

Thanks

[@neefmees7287]

when i saw this video i directly made a gaming pc for 400 euro's and my frames in gta V are 57 average o my fcking god im happy

[@sunw-uc2sm]

what parts tho

[@CalcProgrammer1]

Got one of these to replace my i7 930 last year and it's a beast for its low price. It's holding up well until Zen becomes available.

[@maikelmoltmaker]

I got a Dell Precision T3500 for €50. It has a LGA1366 mobo (X5650 compatible), 8GB ram, a Xeon E5520 quad-core and a Quadro NVS 450. Did I get a good deal?

[@bluescluessuperagent]

uh yeah

[@televisionandcheese]

I am jealous, you got very good deal!! T3500 is very nice computer, very good build quality and well made. Motherboards in these support even triple channel 8GB of ECC memory is great! Add a little more for triple channel and get huge performance increase. E5520 is decent CPU, but your machine is very future proof as you can easily & cheaply upgrade to X5650 and get incredible performance! Quadro NVS 450 is pretty decent low end video card, great for old games, but your machine can be upgrade later to something like a GTX1070, and that will still a bottleneck to a X5650! All that you get for $50! I want to be you right now

[@maikelmoltmaker]

television and cheese Problem is I'm short on money. So no high end stuff coming soon. But I picked up a GTX 760 OC 2GB for €55 was that a good deal? I also got a new PSU (for the 760).

[@televisionandcheese]

GTX 760 for €55 is very good deal also! Nice find. The issue is that you did not really need a new PSU, for the dual six pins, the stock PSU is more than enough for the 760, all you needed was a €2 Sata to 6 pin, so you can have both for the card.

[@maikelmoltmaker]

television and cheese Well... The PSU I am gonna get for free. It's gonna be one of my B-day presents for this year. Only a few days left until I get it 28th of may. It's a Thermaltake Smart RGB 700w.

[@dbsgames7802]

hey guys i found a Xeon X5450 build with 4 gb Ram and Gtx 760 ti is it good for 1080p gaming

[@sudeley6516]

it should do well

[@sudeley6516]

there is a such thing as the 760 Ti, i looked it up.

[@amym828]

Some more information about what board you got to pair with your x5650 and how you managed to overclock so much would have been helpful. Or at the very least, links to where some good information could be found.

[@Harry-og2ck]

how do you overclock a Xeon?

[@Harry-og2ck]

I have a Xeon w3520 but I can't find any way to overclock it

[@kionera96]

How will we ever know... Oh wait.. The search button

[@Harry-og2ck]

Xplosio Lee wow thank you so much you are very helpful

[@Harry-og2ck]

josiah saari thanks I'll take a look

[@danteinouye6098]

lock the multiplier at max speed and set the base clock something higher then 100 in BIOS. You need to have a decent board to do this. the max turbo clock of the xeon mentioned in the video above, for example, has a max turbo multiplier of 33. clock speed is multiplier times base clock. so lets say you set the base clock to 120. 120 X 33 = 3960, so 3.96 ghz.

[@s1mo]

Should I buy this for gaming? i5 6400 is better? Wich one? ofc I'll have to change the motherboard too

[@norgan5064]

Fadebola get an i5 6600k and a cooler if you have more money, if not, get an i5 6500

[@s1mo]

Razorpigeon Isn't this 12 threads better?

[@kelpygsus132]

More cores and threads doesn't always mean better. In most games the higher single core performance is better

[@s1mo]

Boda Thanks, I'll go for the i5

[@Lokislav]

go for skylake, from there you can go to kaby lake you aren't going to use the potential of a server CPU and its huge RAM support, servers use multithreads and multicores but games and some programs require good performance on single core, and with rendering and other stuff, the newer the cpu the more effective sets (algorythms) it has which will not only lower the demand on the CPU, but will also make it more efficient i.e. more computed in less time in less load

[@ppipowerclass]

I had an old i7 920 I built when it was brand new. I put it on an Asus rampage 2 extreme motherboard and built a custom water cooling set up. I bought a xeon and a 1070ti last summer. All of it set me back about $300 usd ( card and processor). It runs really well for such an old pc. I do have 12 gigs of corsair dominator ddr3 triple channel memory in it and I have upgraded the hard drive to a Samsung 860 pro. All in all, it's a totally decent computer that I have had for 10+ years now!

[@janisir4529]

Dual e5 2670 is where it's at. it's single core performance sucks, but 32 threads mate

[@riot7424]

but which game uses 32 threads :?

[@janisir4529]

***** 32 wolfenstein

[@99stem]

Are games really utilising all the cores? I heard that games nowadays usually vary between 4-8 cores at max, but I could be wrong.

[@janisir4529]

Die Gutesten That analogy doesn't really matter. It's trivial to use more gpu cores in paralel, but cpu threads are a huge pain in the ass.

[@janisir4529]

Die Gutesten Well, I'm just a wannabe student, and by the time I finish everything I learnt will be obsolete.

[@dragonfirebomb2]

I love all kinds of suupport, RAM suupport, tech suupport, leg suupport. :)

[@bamcorpgaming5954]

Just snag a t5500 with these x560 and x5670 in it, 16gb ram, 1tb hdd, and windows, for under 250 bucks. I did exactly that for my buddy and dropped a 480 in it ( because those workstation psus are pretty beefy it could handle it). Pretty good option. You should do a video on it. There is also the W series xeon cpus on that same exact socket that are just as good, and have their own cheap prebuilts for around the same price. Anywho, keep up the good work.

[@yancgc5098]

Bro....bro...explain to me how is 8XMSAA in Crysis 3 a CPU intensive setting? All the anti-aliasing process is done on the GPU, you are just increasing GPU stress and that will make testing CPUs against each other meaningless. Test in 720p without anti-aliasing if you really wanna do CPU tests the right way.

[@davidkerr7]

WTF you are you using a GTX 1060 you will run into GPU bottleneck before a CPU. plus u are benching with GPU intensive game.

[@Spiretail]

GTX 1060s are amazing for 1080p. 1070's and 1080+ are overkill for 1080p

[@nathanrwin]

Foxhounder I use a 1070 for 1080p-144Hz

[@TheGreatNathan]

Foxhounder 1070 is great for 1080p

[@nathanrwin]

When Volta releases I will probably buy an XB271HU along with a new gpu

[@groenendijk7]

90% don't know what bottleneck is. There is no bottleneck here

[@pagb666]

Had an i7-950, upgraded to a W3680, no regrets. Now BF1 MP never goes below 60fps.

[@grus.clausen]

This is not how you test CPU's...

[@TheGreatNathan]

Patrick Clausen you don't realize that this is a budget channel, he simply can't afford a titan x. Also most people who buy used are budget builders. You completely missed the point of this video

[@MisterApfelmus]

You don't seem to understand what Patrick was talking about...

[@lonerdo5431]

Nathan Kam, I think Patrick means that the settings and resolutions used during the benchmarks could have been lowered to put the stress on the processor rather than the video card.

[@hailgod1]

no. its called cinebench

[@lonerdo5431]

Not everyone can look at a cinebench score and know what performance the cpu will have in game.

[@Luix]

what about the TDP?

[@FrodeLøtvedt]

95w

[@reggiexp69]

Frode Angell Løtvedt not bad my fx8370e oc at 4.5ghz does like 125wat i guess?

[@OrangeBroom]

Damn my 1500x is 65w

[@StaelTek]

since a FX 9470 (4.4-4.7 GHz) has a 220W TDP, i will guess you are in the 170-195W range.

[@Couchgaming761]

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[@BrandonReardin]

Hey RandomGaming, great video! I love the kind of stuff you do on your channel, but have you ever considered adding some real-world benchmark numbers when doing these processor videos? Maybe from Cinebench/Geekbench? Maybe some video render times? It would add a little more variety and thoroughness when comparing CPUs.

[@cooltwittertag]

The GPU is bottlenecking...(for the 5820K)

[@joenodden]

In these tests you want the GPU to be good enough that it gets bottlenecked, then you can see the difference between the two CPUs.

[@francescoventriglia3300]

Nice processor and nice video. I'll be Happy if you reply to me.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Flair Airis thanks man :)

[@rappelzzocker9]

+RandomGaminginHD if u review something always compare it with battlefield 1 please

[@cbremer83]

A pair of these chips combined with an SR-2 motherboard was world record setting benchmarking kit well after the 1366 based CPU's where replaced.

[@kmemz]

If this is a CPU benchmark, wouldn't you turn the graphics DOWN to minimize GPU interference on the framerate? Hee, bottlenecks.

[@joeonyt196]

1060 is overkill for this tho..

[@kmemz]

@@joeonyt196 Perhaps, but it still stands true that turning graphics down makes for pushing the CPU side of things harder than the GPU, with the reduced load and presumably frametime on the GPU end, the CPU has less downtime between frames. The only time I can think of where it wouldn't make a noticeable difference is with something closer to the limits of the extremes, such as pairing an RTX 3080tie with an AMD Phenom II x4 965 or similar.

[@serdarcs3373]

Zen is probably going to murder this cpu.

[@idontwantachannelname3590]

SerdarCS I concur

[@pcgamingtoday5471]

Well this CPU is 7 years old

[@DerrickRG]

Well duh Kyle, he overclocked it. Most people who put aggressive OCs on chips like that will use an aftermarket cooler, preferrably watercooled.

[@mysticjbyrd]

There's no more risk of overheating than any other oc'd cpu..... The power consumption difference would be negligible!

[@K31TH3R]

Wrong. The X5650 is an i7 990x at heart, however it's a 90 watt TDP chip versus the 990x's 130w. It runs cooler than it's i7 counterpart. I run my X5650 @ 4.8GHz on custom watercooling I built in 2004, I rarely see it above 50c while gaming.

[@PoeLemic]

Excellent video. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. This made me rethink older CPUs. Already got a newer i7, but I'll think about this idea sometime down the road. Only problem (CORRECT ME -- if I am wrong!!!) is that you will only have a SATA2 interface ... right? Also, USB2.0 and not USB3.0. Isn't that right? So, how did you resolve that, or did you?

[@zvonkokarabatic2169]

Well this is a good chip but im gona stick with my i5 6500

[@worldstarnotsosuper846]

Same

[@zvonkokarabatic2169]

!!!WORLDSTAR!!! NotSoSuper :)

[@worldstarnotsosuper846]

:D

[@cornflakes7664]

Sure, the 6500 is a decent CPU. Kind of missing the point of the video though. The x5650 (stock clock) will actually best your 6500 by a small margin in anything that is optimized for multithreading and can be had for 45.00. I just did a quick search and found a compatible motherboard for it for 54.00. Another 60.00 on 24gb of ram and for less than just your CPU goes for used (159.00 vs 165.00), you have a superior (minus a few modern motherboard features) foundation for a gaming rig. Throw all that saved money into getting a tier or two better GPU than you would have otherwise and it's making a lot of sense now. You may do even better picking up older workstations like the dell T3500/T5500/T7500 and HP Z400/Z600/Z800 (some of which support dual processors) as you can get some or all of the parts you want already installed including a high watt PSU easily capable of handling a Pascal GPU or two. Of course the cases aren't as flashy as a modern gaming case.

[@zvonkokarabatic2169]

Aaron M listen I know is not the best but I dont give a flying duck its good for me and that's why I'm keeping it

[@fawzanfawzi9993]

Can we talk about how great Indonesian Market is? (It's bad)

[@rendiyuspramanaputra236]

Fawzan Fawzi sure is really bad bro, I know what ur feeling

[@johnrickard8512]

Another cool thing about the Xeon X5650(and the E5649 that I have) is that they can A. support ram sticks that are surprisingly cheap, and B. run in dual processor configurations. This last one may come in handy if you are a content creator.

[@XFROOS]

John Rickard yep that is true .. i am running x5650 @4.0ghz with cheap sticks 12gb ram 2gb(different models) six sticks oc to 1600mhz @1.65v(stock speed 1333)

[@J2897Tutorials]

How much does it cost to run per year (electricity)?

[@breathlesstuna8919]

It's a xeon, so it shouldn't use too much power unless you overclock heavily. They're generally very power efficient chips

[@FrodeLøtvedt]

Intel Xeon X5650 is a 95w CPU...

[@donovan6320]

Johnny English, PhD the people who are wondering this it generally costs if you were to run this 24/7 at most 50 bucks

[@florin604]

You had to install 2 xeons...

[@ofi1831]

Cipi SixZeroFour might not be able to overclock on some server mobos

[@Ady_Mih]

not all the mobos for the xenos have duble cpu ...

[@Unq]

XxAdyxX98 stupid he download a double cpu mobo duh

[@Ady_Mih]

Invincible what ?

[@Unq]

XxAdyxX98 just a joke xD

[@xxwolfvoidzzxx8053]

Hey RandomGaminginHD i've been here since 23k subs i would just like to say that i love you're videos and you have come a long way keep up the goodwork sorry for bad english

[@EliranC]

This video is MISS LEADING, DO NOT BELIEVE IT. Of course you gonna see the same results LOL. You made a GPU test not a CPU test, unless the game use enough ram to get off the insane 6gb ram your 1060 graphic card have, you will HARDLY see any difference. Do some benchmarks, a 4 cores I7 6700K would do about 3 the score your lame Xeon do. And don't get it wrong. Xeon proccesors are LAME for gaming, because they are not made for them, they are made purely for calculation of super extended commends for servers, but when it comes to multi tasking, which are most notable at high end games and online games, even low graphic games such as CS GO, an i7 would procces everything twice as fast. And even though you might not see that in a major FPS incrase, FPS is CLEARLY not everything. And that's without even mentioning DDR4 vs your so called out of date DDR3. Realize that the most simple DDR4 is actually FASTER than your stock Xeon clock.

[@cookie1138]

Well, it is on paper a 32nm, 6 physical cores, 12 threads alternative to the i7 5820K. It is all in all the older technology that can't compete with Z170 chips. But the X5650 is still much raw power and I got myself an X5650 processor and a GTX1070 and I play on 1080p ultra up to 100+ fps on every game. For the performance per dollar, I recommend this solution if you want cheap high end gaming. I did it myself and love it. You get the performance you need, especially for gaming. Also, for higher resolutions, this solution is quite the way to go to. An GTX 1080ti or 1070 SLI will give me the 1440p 144fps Gaming experience I am working on. By the way I'm running an ASUS X58 Sabertooth with the Xeon Overclocked to 3.9 Ghz and got all the parts for 200€. It is worth it.

[@XFROOS]

Eliran Cohen you can push x5650 to 4.3ghz @1.4v

[@ManitobaMotorsports]

try 4.6ghz daily @ 1.375V. I just recently started playing with an old X58 setup, and have had it stable up to 4.85 but beyond that was a no go, booted into windows with 5.056ghz a few times trying to push bench mark scores. Managed 150single core on Cinnebench 15 and 1125 multi-core scores. It is awe-inspiring how well this older stuff does with modern games and graphics cards and kicks the snot out of most of the stuff all the way up to 6/7th gen processors that are not "K" skews.

[@televisionandcheese]

Yeah but who wants DDR4? This Xeon supports Quad channel memory. Even on super cheap Dell T3500 motherboard, it has 6 slots for Triple channel. Triple channel DDR3 beats even high end DDR4 my friend.

[@agentsteve4534]

television and cheese I agree

[@PrinceAli1983]

great video. however i would recommend lowering your settings when benchmarking cpus against each other. ryzen Vs Intel at 2k and 4k were very close in the benchmarks because the GPU was bottlenecking. at 1080p you saw a bigger difference. i would have run your game benchmarks at 720p as well as 1080 to reduce the GPU bottleneck to give a more accurate CPU assesment . anyway you're making great videos as always. keep doing it!!!

[@OnionRingsGaming]

Btw to the people saying " You don't need 6 cores for gaming, don't do gaming benchmarks do rendering stuff " no, you don't NEED 6 core for gaming but keep in mind todays games most of them fully utilize all 4 cores, games like GTA for example take 100% utilization on my i5 6500 easy, other games are close behind at 70%ish, so having 2 extra cores is good, I feel like 6 cores is the new sweet spot these days, plenty for gaming, plenty for light/medium rendering or editing work loads, and 6 cores can even still overclock pretty nicely.

[@hgron]

I got inspired by this video, bought the cpu (50€ on ebay) for my 1366-mobo and now happily running X5650 @3.8GHz 1.2V. Cheers!

[@XFROOS]

hgron you can go to 4.0ghz @1.3v .. also 4.3ghz @1.41v .. i have tested that 👍👍

[@Dav2112]

I have the X5660 in my rig, paid £70 for it 2 years ago, gave my aging 1366 rig a new lease of life.

[@jody5661]

You can actually get some dual socket 1366 motherboards for $50, I bought a TYAN S7012 motherboard with 2 heat sinks for $50, 16GB of ECC RAM for $30, and I got 2 X5570s for $21, then I already have a compatible PSU, case, and random other stuff that I will need.

[@cutty02]

Ive found the Xeon E3 series to be completely underated. You can basically get an equivlent processor for the 1155,1150,1151 sockets for much less money. For example I have a Xeon E3 1280v2. It runs at 3.7ghz all core and 4.ghz 1 core turbo. I has the same architecture as the i7 3770 but runs faster clocks stock for stock and cost less. the E3 1240v2 is the same as the I7 3770 and cost $40-50 less. Its awesome.

[@benzenegaming3199]

I have a Dell Precision T3500 with a X5670 CPU, 16 GB of RAM, and a GeForce 970 GTX and it works great with a lot of games. Xeons are great CPUs for building a budget PC vs. what they were back then.

[@umerxa]

Shiron Windragon i have the same pc and i want to replace my old gpu with gtx 1060! do you think it is worth it?plus i have the same cpu used in the video above.would be there any bottlenecking?

[@MrBunt]

I use this CPU since the beginning of this year. I upgraded from a first Gen i7 920 to the x5650. So I already had the motherboard, 24GB of RAM and a decent cooler (Mugen 2). Overclocking on this board was easy, the CPU is currently running at 3,8 GHz (190x20) and that's not even pushing it, temperatures are quite moderate even after hours of stress tests.

[@RRCsteve]

So along these lines... I've been using a LGA1366 motherboard since 2010 for my rig. Instead of getting an entirely whole new PC, I bought a W3690 (faster than the X5650) for about $200 on ebay. Overclocked stable from 3.46GHz to 4.2GHz. Based on Passmark, it was right up there with a 4770K, which looks to have been $400 when new, not including all the new RAM and a new mobo along with it. The used X5650 suggestion is much more cost focused and provides much more processing power per dollar.

[@jfaria]

Nice reminder for people who never dealt with server gear, remember that you will probably have to buy ECC RAM, though. It's not that expensive, but if you are planning on doing this you might want to add that to the shopping list to estimate the price of the build (still cheaper than a high end i7).

[@whkuriboh292]

I have a 5820K and I'm looking into this because I want to throw together a budget rig to get ready for Ryzen and Vega, but I really want to know how thermals were and how you were cooling it. Would be a great help :)

[@Ironclad17]

One thing you overlooked was that the older Nehalem cpus could only handle DDR3-1333 MHz memory speeds. Anything faster fried the chip. But it looks like that actually isn't anywhere near the bottleneck I thought it was.

[@rich1051414]

There are not insignificant scheduling and boost differences in the two processors. While consumer grade intel processors try to maintain consistent performance for extended heavy workloads, server grade processors, especially Intel server processors, Burst™. :P What I mean is, the processor will continuously kick the turbo on and off to squeeze extra performance out over extended workloads to try to get the most done as possible in the shortest time as possible, but this can be detrimental to frame times in gaming. I recommend turning off turbo on xeons if you are using it as a desktop, and instead settle on a specific constant overclock.

[@SobiesawChabaz]

I'm running a X5450 on a modded 775 motherboard right now (MSI 7360). It was capable of running Witcher 3 in 1080p on high/ultra settings at 30+ fps (up to 50-55 in less taxing areas) and the CPU usage wasn't even jumping past 55-60% on any of the cores. And it's not even overclocked because these things are goddamn hot and require beefy cooling. It does go up to 3.8 GHz on a P5Q Pro Turbo but again, good cooling required. Xeons are seriously amazing CPUs that businesses just throw away. You may be missing features though, don't forget. DDR3, possibly no USB 3 or SATA 3 (depending how far back you're going) etc. If you're only looking to build a gaming rig, even modding a good 775 board with a X54 series Xeon will be just fine.

[@operator8014]

I think it's also worth mentioning that if you know where to look, you can get a TON of ECC DDR3 RAM for 1/4 the price of consumer grade RAM. Last DDR3 server I built, I put in 128GB @1333Mhz for $260. For a consumer setup, you'd be looking at what, $2,000 for that?

[@TrinoDR]

Had an i7 950 that was starting to show it's age wouldn't push past 3.9ghz and ran super hot at that, replaced it with one of these x5670 for £50 and sold the old one for £30 these cpu's are fantastic mine hit 4.6ghz first try on less voltage and runs around 20c cooler as well. Very impressed for a £20 upgrade!

[@dogboy0912]

Nice video. I know it's not a usual benchmark, but Planetside 2 remains predominantly cpu-bound. It isn't 100% accurate, but you can turn on an option to show fps and whether or not it is gpu or cpu bound, which might be nice for cpu comparisons.

[@SledFinatic]

Just wanted to tell you that, you and the vid has inspired me to experiment myself in similar ways! Why? I think this is a very clever way to learn, experiment, get extended use out of outdated hardware.....that and I just happen to have a couple nice LGA1366 MB's to play with. Just picked up a X5670 for Pennies I tell ya! :-P Great Vid, TY for the Inspiration!

[@genghiskhan9556]

I wish that you could make more videos including budget parts again.

[@TRex-NP]

Hey RandomGaminginHD. Like you, I heard about this CPU several months ago. My daily driver was a Core i7 930 on an EVGA FTW3 X58 motherboard I bought brand new off amazon back in 2010 for $270. I figured, hey, I have a motherboard that supports the CPU, and for $48, it would be a great upgrade. I was able to overclock it to 3.95GHz stable on Air cooling. On RealBench and Cinebench, this CPU outperforms my i7 4790K. In the process of attempting to get a stable overclock, it fried my 250gb 850 EVO SSD. still waiting for warranty repair from Samsung. Good luck to people trying to find a decent motherboard for this CPU. they're really expensive on the used market. These mobos only have gen 1 PCIe and Sata II. my board however, has 2 SATA III connectors and 2 USB 3.0 ports - pretty hi-tech during that time. One drawback I found, the cpu/board takes a long time to POST.

[@speedysandisk78]

I'm running an i7 3930k that is now 7 years old, overclocked to 4.5ghz since day one, still beasting anything I throw at it, still running nice and cool.

[@ez1ollie]

How are you not going to overclock the 5820k? That thing overclocks like a beast, I have mine running at stock clock, but I feel like overclocking it soon.

[@camtech1190]

Is the Gigabyte X58 UD3 enough for overclocking a x5675/x5680 to 4.5ghz?

[@Cakeexe]

I have a XEON X5675 6-core, I love this thing, to me it's really worth the value, not just for gaming but it tripled my render speeds in blender from my previous processor. Not that I see you got the overclock to 4ghz I want to see what happens when I overclock this thing.

[@RamjetX]

I have my X5650 running at 4.2GHz with ease and it has no problem driving the GTX1080 today... incredible upgrade on an X58 mobo asus P6T Deluxe V2 for $50. Love this CPU. It's essentially i7 920 with better overclocking and 2 more cores and 4 more threads!!!

[@ParishRoger3]

Interesting... i would've loved to see a render/workstation synthetic benchmark at some point to compare the two..

[@trazac]

I normally like watching these videos and I like this one too, but there are a few weird things I didn't like. First being that the X5650 only supports 288GB of RAM if it is ECC RAM, otherwise it will only support about 48GB of RAM. This is a minor point since you actually need an asston of DIMM slots on a motherboard to get close to 48GB of DDR3 RAM, but it is a point worth making. Second being that if your point is to stress the CPU, then turning up AA defeats the purpose. AA does not stress CPUs, it only stresses the video card. By enabling the most AA possible, you are limiting performance to the GTX 1060 3GB instead of the CPUs. I have to say again that I generally like these videos, and I actually have two Xeon X5667s (which I paid about $50 for both) in my desktop computer, so I totally support using these CPUs to game, but I feel like there was some misrepresentation in this video.

[@hikaru-live]

Since this is a 5000 series Xeon, you may be able to run it in dual processor mode if you can find an appropriate dual LGA1366 motherboard.

[@aoelp]

Very good video, just bought an X5650 for 50€ and a compatible motherboard for only 80€ (under 138$US atm). It is insane value considering that it even has 3770 level single core performance when at over 4 GHz. The board itself (MSI X58 Pro) can take a baseclock of slightly over 200, but the multi is locked at 20 under full load, though >4,6 GHz under low workloads make it even good for games. Thanks for your recommendation. Might return the X5650 and swap it with an 64€ X5670 for those two more steps of multi though. ^^

[@Ferizu]

For the Motherboard, some workstations can be found for cheap, any Dell Precision T3500, HP Z400 or Lenovo S20 (Single Processor MoBo's) are great for these Xeons. Right now I got a Lenovo S20 for less than US$100 dollars, got the PC-Case, a Xeon W3565, 12GB RAM, Nvidia Cuadro 4000, 80+plus Gold Power Source, Card Reader, DVD Burner and a 500GB Mechanical Hard Drive. I have a spare X5675 CPU for it, can put it a GTX 1060 or a RX480/RX580, buy a USB 3.1 pcie and got me a killer machine for gaming, don't think I would need to upgrade in a couple of years, got a STEAM account and a huge backlog with games that doesn't need top tier GPU's. Heck i just finished Resident Evil 2RE on my low power PC (Huananzhi X58 with a xeon X5675, 32GB ECC DDR3 1366 RAM, Nvidia GTX 1050Ti 4GB and a Asus Xonar DX, played the game on Medium with low light effects 60+ fps and looked way better than on a PS4 - Xbox One.