Check out the china cymbals here! ⬇ Meinl 20" Byzance Vintage Equilibrium China - drumhelper.com/recommends/mei... Sabian 19” AA Holy China Cymbal - drumhelper.com/recommends/sab... Zildjian 21” A Ultra Hammered China Cymbal - drumhelper.com/recommends/zil... Meinl 18" Classics Custom Dark China Cymbal - drumhelper.com/recommends/mei... Zildjian 16” Oriental China Trash Cymbal - drumhelper.com/recommends/zil... Istanbul Agop 18" Xist Ion China Cymbal - drumhelper.com/recommends/ist...
@evanhayes58915 ай бұрын
Is the Sabian Holy China a Chad Smith one? That's what eBay gives me. That or the brilliant.
@GideonWaxman5 ай бұрын
@evanhayes5891 Yes it is! Chad Smith is now with Paiste though.
@maximumcarl81383 ай бұрын
Hey man any difference between Meinl 18 Custom Dark China vs Heavy version? They have a new line up I guess
@GideonWaxman3 ай бұрын
@maximumcarl8138 I personally prefer the Dark version over the heavy. Think it responds nicer and feels better to play!
@maximumcarl81383 ай бұрын
@GideonWaxman Awesome thanks, appreciate the response.
@reegyreegz6 ай бұрын
Damn, someone who actually wacks a china in a cymbal comparison video for a change. Nice dude!
@GideonWaxman5 ай бұрын
Haha thanks man! Gotta hit them right for those breakdowns 🥁
@GERGOCZE5 ай бұрын
yes, 90% of the china comparisons or soundchecks are just meh...I understand not only metal players use china cymbals but put some effort and hit that china not just riding on it. this was great review!
@GideonWaxman5 ай бұрын
@@GERGOCZE Appreciate that! Thanks!
@domjfante81407 ай бұрын
I love the music you used to test these, it fits perfectly!
@GideonWaxman7 ай бұрын
Thanks! I wrote it a few months back and thought it would be perfect for this comparison. 😄
@josedealba509022 күн бұрын
Any chance we could find that music you were using? Love to play along to it. Thanks for the awesome comparison video.
@brettclurdrums8 ай бұрын
Love the Classics Custom Dark one the most! Super nice that it's affordable. Gives plenty of room to blow cash on the other cymbals 🥲
@GideonWaxman8 ай бұрын
Yeah that one sounds awesome for the price!
@GianSeehra8 ай бұрын
Currently listening to this amazing video in Marbella, Spain. What a great way to spend my Tuesday listening to different Cymbals. I do love the China symbals, especially the Sabians!!
@zackkeptner19544 ай бұрын
This is easily one of the best videos I’ve seen demoing cymbals keep it up!
@GideonWaxman4 ай бұрын
Love that! Thank you so much 🙏I'll definitely keep the content coming!
@Stewart.fryers7 ай бұрын
I’ve got an old Paiste 505 20” china and it’s an absolute monster
@Lumerdrums27 күн бұрын
great comparison video! In the studio I love the sabian holy china, but if I had to choose now I would totally pick the equilibrium. just the perfect cymbal, it has everything I want in a china cymbal. sadly a bit too expensive atm :D
@GideonWaxman27 күн бұрын
Thanks dude! What china are you using currently? I saw you playing Zultan before. I'm a big fan
@Lumerdrums27 күн бұрын
@@GideonWaxman it depends on the gig/situation. In my rehearsal space I use either a wuhan 18" or a Zultan Aja 18". In studio sessions I play a sabian 19" aa holy china. since it's usually heavy music I like screaming chinas without much "tone" :D for example I am not a big fan of the typical metalcore zildjian oriental chinas, since they have a certain overtone and are not that washy. the only china imo which fits my sound even better than the holy china is the equilibrium from meinl. it has the perfect balance between wash and a lil shorter sustain.
@MrMmnngghh4 ай бұрын
I've been using and abusing that Meinl Custom Dark 18" for two years. I love it so much that I've cracked it and had to notch it. It has the perfect amount of dark washy whip, what a beauty
@GideonWaxman4 ай бұрын
It's an epic cymbal! What did you replace it with?
@MrMmnngghhАй бұрын
@@GideonWaxman ....another Meinl Custom Dark Heavy! I tried the usual research and shopping around for something different or better, and the others I considered were also Meinl. The Extreme Metal 18", the Custom Dual 18", and the Byzance Brilliant Heavy Hammered in 18 and 20"...but to my ear, and for the sound we play, I still haven't found anything that beats the Custom Dark Heavy.
@dustininge3409Ай бұрын
Did you have the medium or heavy one? I want to get one myself but no one ever say’s which one they’re playing
@MrMmnngghhАй бұрын
@@dustininge3409I replaced a heavy with another heavy. I think Gideon's playing the medium weight version here. Both are monster 🤘
@Monsterdrumma3 ай бұрын
My ear just comes alive whenever I hear the Zildjian Oriental china’s. I had the perfect 16”, I really wish I still had that cymbal!
@GideonWaxman3 ай бұрын
Such a great cymbal!
@Monsterdrumma3 ай бұрын
@@GideonWaxman Yep they sound unique.
@Glenners24 күн бұрын
man that Sabian AA holy sounds amazing
@thevestarr24 күн бұрын
Glad to see the Istambul Xist Agop Ion China getting some well deserved recognition, I went for the 16" variant after listening to hundreds of samples online. It's phenomenal for its price.
@GideonWaxman24 күн бұрын
Agreed! The Xist line is incredible value 👏
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power18 күн бұрын
That Zil ultrhammered is crazy gorgeous. I just noticed it in the Chimaira inkarceration set 🔥🔥🔥 and got to searching for it. The price, though 🤯🤯🤯
@emersoncoelho582216 күн бұрын
Hey man would you make a video on how you got your snare to sound crisp like that?
@gestalt77566 ай бұрын
That zildjian ultra hammered china sound and look is stellar.
@GideonWaxman6 ай бұрын
@gestalt7756 I've used this cymbal in the studio several times- it always delivers!
@jitzwaАй бұрын
The 19” is the way to go. TRUST me.
@Poeme34025 күн бұрын
Perfectly executed China demo! I like the Meinl.👌👌
@GideonWaxman24 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! I appreciate it. 🙏
@The1973Drummer4 ай бұрын
Paiste?
@johnbmx4christ2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this excellent video
@GideonWaxman2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed 🤘
@borscast5 ай бұрын
the sound of your drum is AWESOME. I liked is so much :)
@GideonWaxman5 ай бұрын
@@borscast thank you so much!!
@simonetraina11267 ай бұрын
one question: does the sound change from the Meinl Classics Custom Dark China to the Meinl Classics Custom China?
@GideonWaxman7 ай бұрын
The Dark model has a darker and slightly more 'earthy' tone compared to the standard Classics Custom china which has a brilliant finish and sounds brighter.
@simonetraina11267 ай бұрын
thanks!
@RobinsonHusoe26 күн бұрын
The whole custom dark series mostly sound very different to the classic custom cymbals. In my opinion, they don't even match each other at all.
@platontotis4336Ай бұрын
NICE SELECTION!
@GideonWaxmanАй бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@DemonDog4446 ай бұрын
The Paiste 2002 20" Novo is like "WTF?"
@lovecraftmusic87176 ай бұрын
Right on
@andyhoard98914 ай бұрын
Novos are king.
@ArthurDent336 ай бұрын
Well done. New sub
@GideonWaxman6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@robsco12494 ай бұрын
I have had many china but my favourite one is still Stagg DH 18". Very versatile, super sound...sadly It crack after a while...
@behindthen0thing4 ай бұрын
Great video
@GideonWaxman4 ай бұрын
Cheers! Glad you liked it
@iantouzel6385 ай бұрын
great taste man , try the 21 version of the Sabian holy, it's killer
@GideonWaxman5 ай бұрын
Oh for sure the 21" version is a beast! Glad you liked my choices!
@extrashuggah66722 ай бұрын
Nice one but you forgot queen of china cymbals : sabian AAX Xtreme 19"
@GideonWaxman2 ай бұрын
Cheers, and yeah I do love the AAX Xtreme line!
@bjornschlaak53636 ай бұрын
meinl byzance china is a gread china cymbals for rocks parts ore sabian china cymbal very cool sound for this rock part
@GideonWaxman7 ай бұрын
Check out my review of the brand new Zildjian Z Customs! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHTKZoVjqpenjZY&ab_channel=GideonWaxman
@VUser40424 күн бұрын
wuhan china 18" for me is 👌, and I'm not afraid to smash it because it is very affordable. haha
@ArtemGubanovRus4 ай бұрын
Zilldjian K custom Dark/Z custom/Fx Oriental/Paiste old version twenty/ Zil Swish Knocker wt riviets/and of course Zildjian Low volume 18 china)
@jonhattanrai6 ай бұрын
These sound very good. I would rank them like this: 1 Tied the Holy China and the Equilibrium China 2 Istanbul Agop 3 Classics Custom Dark 4 Zildjian Oriental 5 Zildjian Heavy Hammered
@GideonWaxman6 ай бұрын
Glad you liked my selection!
@stevealtman72048 ай бұрын
Boom!
@parkfoot71942 ай бұрын
minted bro
@DALTRON6665 күн бұрын
Literally did not reveiw the best china ever made. 2002 novo china.
@KTBD2422 ай бұрын
1:55
@behindthen0thing4 ай бұрын
Has anybody noticed that cymbals are like twice as expensive ans they used to be a few years ago
@hugorezende1992 ай бұрын
Just like everything else i guess (the big majority of things, housing and food, maybe clothes became cheaper because of many chinese productions). Its always hard to have a proper explanation on price of things.
@jeffersonhuarache88632 ай бұрын
Wuhan 18 😎 fino fino
@surveillant2 ай бұрын
You're missing the worlds greatest china cymbal - 18" Wuhan Koi Conical Dark China No I am not joking. There is nothing better sounding. Not even kidding. It's also one of the cheapest at $160.
@xetradax26796 ай бұрын
good drumming
@GideonWaxman6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@seppoinnanen55777 күн бұрын
My ears tell me that Zildjian can't make a decent sounding china
@josephandrachick17745 ай бұрын
too bad. no paiste china
@azesal892223 күн бұрын
I'm surprised that the meinl and oriental is the ones i liked the most.
@GideonWaxman21 күн бұрын
The Equilibrium Byzance or the Classics Custom Dark?