The 6th gen. NGAD Program and the F-22: the LEAP it is going to be BIG!

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[@Alexanbreizh]

I am no expert at all so my question maybe stupid. It looks like everybody consider BVR as the futur of air combat, but as counter measure technology is evolving very fast it seams that any advantage a fighter may have would be cancel by the other's CM . it feels like futur air force pilots will end up dog figthing the old fashion way; in visual range. isn't it?

[@manofsan]

*What's next? Thought-controlled weapons?*

[@deven6518]

It should be noted that the f22 is less efficient when super cruising and I don't know if the f35 ever had that capability fixed. If they learned their lesson, it's possible they might be looking to more efficient afterburners. Stealth be gone for that

[@janwitts2688]

Did you consider cartridge laser weapons?

[@matheuscerqueira7952]

Can you make a video on OOA (out of autoclave)? It's in production stage with the MC-21 and I suppose it is, along with photonics, a reason of the postponement of the SU-57 full scale production

[@Blakearmin]

I'm happy to see that you have sponsors, now. Not that I like ads or anything, but I'm happy that you're being better compensated for your work.

[@mvd4436]

Ngad risks being a flying Litorral combat ship if they don't get it right.

[@cannonfodder4376]

In the age of clickbait, this video is the best there is on NGAD. Informative reporting that combines what little we know with your expertise and sharp analysis. A far cry from the crap I see pumped out for views and cheap money. Wonderful stuff M7. It's going to be interesting to see what comes along as time passes and how China and Russia go about their own 6th gen projects.

[@Manbemanbe]

Here here, well said!

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

They need to make 5th gen first

[@ELMS]

That’s the best NGAD video I’ve seen. You don’t find content like this anywhere else. An excellent briefing. Just one omission, you never explained why Otis put the camera in the refrigerator. Finally, nice to see sponsorship…the KZbin community is noticing your channel!

[@doncalypso]

OTIS has not been the same ever since he took that unsanctioned "vacation" in China... 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@dl6519]

BEST Nord VPN ad ever. I always skip past the ads, but this time I actually watched it, because of your creativity. You and Otis make a great team. "Is the microwave protected too, sir? I'm asking for a friend." HA!!

[@joannewilson6577]

Yes he is really awesome! I did the same.

[@shaider1982]

This airplane will be the first delta winged fighter in the USAF since the F106.

[@Quilustrucu]

F-102

[@mm650]

To me, the logical extension of the long-range missile dominated air-superiority approach would be a mash-up between the concept of a sensor drone and and a air-to-air missile. I imagine it would work like this: 1. A blip is detected far far beyond visual range... possibly detected via remote platforms well past the horizon from the missile-launching platform even. Because of long range detection, the blip represents a relatively low-certainty detection of an enemy aircraft. 2. The missile/drone launching platform launches the missile/drone. Because it must approach from great distance and strike faster than the putative enemy can deploy countermeasures, the missile drone must be traveling at high mach at least during the terminal portions of its approach, although it might be relying upon stealth in the earlier portions. 3. As the missile/drone approaches the blip, it finally gets optics on the the blip for the first time... only now can we know if the blip is a real target and not some jamming-based sensor ghost, or a friendly, or what-ever. At this stage the missile drone either commits to the original kill-mission against the blip, or defaults to one of two alternate missions. (It probably makes this initial commit or default decision entirely autonomously... without communicating back to the launcher or other human judgement,. Timing and the potential for it being detected or countered as a result of outside communication would permit nothing else). The two alternate default missions would be: (A) Pure-drone... it could stay in sub-sonic stealth mode and become a relatively high-loiter sensor package uploading data into the targeting systems of launcher-platforms. (B) It could go into recovery mode, and land at a pre-designated site for retrieval, refurbishment, refueling, and eventual reuse. The idea here is that long-range non-visual air-to-air combat based upon high-sophistication missiles is extremely expensive because those missiles need more than just rocket engines, and warheads, they need sophisticated sensor packages and the computers capable of using the data from those sensors. Expending such a smart munition is totally worth it... IF one hits an enemy fighter, but if most blips are sensor ghosts, it becomes rapidly possible to simply make such long-range warfare economically unsustainable. Thus the idea is to make EVERY shot count, even if it is just against a sensor ghost... if that's the case, then the shot becomes a sensor package in the area that has the direct effect of making more sensor ghosts harder to generate. Thus, the more munitions you expend, the fewer munitions you must further expend in a self-correcting tactical feedback-loop. If it turns out that seeding the are with more sensors is not worth it, there's at least a chance to recover the expensive missile/drone reducing the average dollars/shot. We see some aspects of this hybrid missile/drone concept in other mission spaces already: for example the switch-blade drone for ground-to-ground, and the small-diameter bomb v2 for air-to-ground. I'd be very interested in your thoughts concerning it's applicability to air-to-air.

[@jonathanpfeffer3716]

Interesting idea, but it is extraordinarily complex and the litany of accompanying systems and infrastructure necessary to even attempt something like that would be mind bogglingly expensive, more so than the NGAD could ever be. Trying to make a drone that can land and be reused when operating deep behind enemy lines is just making an unmanned plane that’s just as expensive. You would be much better off investing in high unit numbers of long range missiles. They’re not any more complex than shorter ranged missiles, they just have more boosters. They just typically aren’t procured much because historically that’s a bit of a niche mission type and so per unit costs have been high in the past. They don’t need to be.

[@ahrimanic7]

With out a doubt this will come in under budget and be simple to maintain.

[@nanonano2595]

just long range switchblades everywhere, enough to blot out the sun

[@DAAllan82]

It actually will be easier to maintain than the F-22. That’s one of the focuses of the program and one of the big advantages the F-35 has over the F-22… the radar absorbent material on the F-35 is a leap ahead technology that is far easier and cheaper to maintain.

[@johnaikema1055]

a geek is way interested. good job on the intake bit...seriously well done! that alone will greatly influence design to ensure airflow at 2 intakes remain smooth enough to allow for effective operation. I would imagine that a intake under the fuselage for high relative airflow angles would be relatively small due to increased pressure...but that increased pressure also increases possibility of turbulent airflow if dine incorrectly. keep this stuff coming! 👍

[@Gunni1972]

It also decreases Payload space. To me, it makes relatively little sense,having an airduct right where the internal bay should be. On the other hand 2 side-bays for long range AA missiles might get in the way of the undercarriage. Pretty much the problem, the F-22 has with fitting an AIM 260. It would need to be considerably longer, to accommodate all wishes there. That, on the other hand, will make it heavier(but at least there will be some place for fuel).

[@mytech6779]

There is good information that can be gained from the F117, B-2 and SR-71 designs. The F117 was not equipped with any type of radar, not only because the active signal would give away position but because the transmitter antenna, even when inactive, is a very good radar reflector. because of this the F117 relied on passive infra red sensors and GPS navigation. They are also subsonic to reduce heat signature and sound, a sonic boom can be tracked by ground stations, and even if not useful for targeting it is useful for early warning and general vector information. Also interesting is the SR71, which is not normally labeled as stealth but it was designed with a substantially reduced radar visibility, it also relied on automated star tracking navigation. Star tracking was not only useful in the pre-GPSS era but because GPSS can be jammed or disabled, however star tracking is only reliable in the stratosphere above all clouds. For a conventional super cruise aircraft there is an island of aerodynamic efficiency near mach 2.0-2.5. ( Note the Concord used this speed. ) This speed is also desirable because the aerodynamic heating is just below the limits of aluminum as a bulk structural material. The SR71 required titanium and steel because of heat at mach-3, metallic Ti is not only an expensive raw material but it is expensive to use in fabrications, and the higher temperatures cause additional problems with expansion, expansion joints can decrease radar stealth, and a hot skin massively reduces infrared stealth.

[@lilsnabes]

This not being click bait that just gives the history of the f22 has earned you my subscription. Good job on the video sir

[@gorethegreat]

I love this guy! Great voice. Great humour. Great knowledge. Great commentary.

[@ShayneBiggs-ix2vp]

Ya it's about time a sponsor came.this channel is one of the best for aviation.all the technical data on here you can't get on other channels. Thanks for all the hard work sir

[@Manbemanbe]

A fantastic video! The way you are able to parse through the very, very limited info about this topic and still pull out some very strong and relevant talking points is so impressive. You are one of the best on KZbin!

[@formateuramzal1567]

always interesting to listen to your POV, I think that NGAD will draw a lot from the technologies used on the B21

[@Opusss]

I wish I had discovered this channel ages ago. I really appreciate the balance between in depth detail in to the science behind these topics while keeping the information relatively accessible. Earned a new sub today

[@wihanvanblerk8065]

I really appreciate the effort you put into your videos! Real honest and in-depth journalism

[@uhtredlundar8394]

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[@DamageControlParty]

I'm slowly recovering all of your videos. This one has captured alot my attention, (no need to repeat it but) you always bring great content

[@antonioluperini5684]

Soundtrack improved a lot. Good Job!

[@corvanphoenix]

Apparently USAF NGAD is pronounced as you did, while Navy's NGAD is pronounced like NJAD. Also, I hope both will have long range, high resolution medium wave IR, which they could identify what the radar can see.

[@TurboHappyCar]

Great video! Variable bypass engines are going to be a game changer. It's too bad they won't retrofit the engines to older airframes, in fear of it diverting funding from the next plane.

[@Gunni1972]

You need to balance out Intakes and engine mountings. Therefore reshape the Airplane.It's just not worth it.

[@PiggyKasparov]

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[@ArgosySpecOps]

"F-32"??? Did I strain too hard on the toilet while watching this, and slide into a parallel universe where Boeing's X-32 won the competition? 🤔 The "Mandela Effect" confirmed!

[@hiratiomasterson4009]

The amazing thing about the NGAD that will be so hard for China and Russia to duplicate is the software environment in which it will be designed...and the actual manufacturing tech and supply chain. The ability now to create and test the aircraft in a detail digital virtual environment (including not just combat, but manufacturing, maintenance/support, upgrades etc - the complete lifecycle) will do wonders not just in development speed, but in capability and ensuring minimal nasty surprises down the track. And as the Russians are finding out, just having knowledge of materials and shaping is no use if you don't have the ultra advanced manufacturing technology to reliably mass produce them at scale to the right quality standards. There is a huge leap in manufacturing standards needed between 4th gen and 5th gen...and now just wait for what 6th gen will both offer...and demand to make it a reality.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Well, the use of digital twins is now commonplace. In the aerospace industry, SAAB and Dassault have been using this technology for about 20 years. Today digital twins are used for designing shopping malls or underground stations. The "huge leap in manufacturing standards" is one of the reasons the F-35 is so expensive to fly: taking it apart and putting it together is more complex and requires more infrastructure than a previous generation fighter.

[@hiratiomasterson4009]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech CATIA is indeed useful, but it will be interesting to get a better idea of how the US has progressed the game. A digital twin is most effective when it is created in a digital environment that can mirror. I will be very interested to see how (if?) they resolve the contradiction between brutally exacting manufacturing standards to enhance stealth and robustness for real world operations and of course minimal hours maintenance per hour flown. F-35 is still chewing through RAAF maintenance budgets like a starving pack of wolves in a henhouse...🙄

[@arrant638]

Such technologies appear not only in the United States. This topic is being developed in many states with an aviation industry. This design method was mentioned in the program "Military Acceptance". The plot of the issue was dedicated to the C70 Hunter. Also during the presentation of the Su75, they talked about modern design, which made it possible to develop the aircraft in a short time. Here is a quote from the presentation: "The Checkmate was designed using supercomputer technologies. Electronic modeling, digital calculations, a full range of virtual tests. The aircraft complex was created in record time. And today the Checkmate is ready for testing." It is a mistake to believe that competitors stand still.

[@chanoslesi]

​@@arrant638 Lmao Russia is not even a competitor for USA more like underdog but this time no1 wants him to succeed

[@joaovitorsilvagohl682]

@@chanoslesi What are you even talking about, Russia is nowhere near but using cad and simulations is not something out of this world, and it is cheaper.

[@loribiggs9620]

This is the best channel for military equipment.By far. So much information I love it.most channels just spout 3 or 4 parameters that everyone has known for yrs and yrs

[@sir_vix]

This was making me wonder... how large could a fighter feasibly get? Is it at all possible to make a large-ish aircraft that maintains some degree of super-maneuvbility? What would the limiting factor be? (My guess is on material integrity under load...)

[@shaider1982]

I think they sacrificed some maneurverability.

[@LoisoPondohva]

Structural stability and engine power. But mainly structural stability, we can build engines powerful enough to make a 747 supermaneuverable, though they would be expensive af and jug fuel like a oil rig fire, but we don't have the materials to sustain the stress.

[@mayanktripathi8726]

@@LoisoPondohva ..why? can we not use the material being used in the exhaust of space shuttles to sustain those stress'?

[@jannegrey593]

@@mayanktripathi8726 Exhaust of space shuttle? Are you talking about thermal stress or structural stress? Also a lot of "space" materials are being used in Aerospace industry already. It's just they don't always meet the specific requirements or include some sort of trade off. Space is different than flying in atmosphere. And re-entry is different than flying at supersonic speeds for long time.

[@LoisoPondohva]

@@mayanktripathi8726 thermal stress is a lot different from deformation stress from high G. The material of a rocket has to sustain those stresses in only one direction, and those materials we do have. But a supermaneuverable jet exerts those stresses in random directions with fast changes, and that problem is EXTREMELY hard to solve in material science. Plus, shuttle and the other reusable spaceships go through extensive maintenance after each launch, with a lot of those special stress-ablative materials being completely or partially removed and re-applied. We can't really financially or strategically afford to send each 6-gen fighter into a three-week refurbishment program after each sortie. Refurbishing 5-gen stealth coatings is already a huge problem in cost and fleet readiness. So, basically, at this time we can't really build a multi-use supermaneuverable jet of a B-1/B-52 size, and even if we could - there's a question to be answered as to which problem are we even solving by doing so, and wouldn't be building 2-5-10 smaller jets at the same combined cost be much more effective.

[@jimrobcoyle]

How it looks? Imagine many small creeks feeding money into the Amazon River Basin. Then double that and stuff it into Bain Capital offshore Tax Shelters.

[@davidkillens8143]

This tells me that the US is embarking on advancing engine technology. The Russians and Chinese have been closing that gap.

[@bluemarlin8138]

Russia and China have been unable to match US engines from the 80s and 90s (not in top end thrust but in acceleration, overall performance, fuel economy, and engine life). Russia is nowhere close because their metallurgy is garbage. China was copying Russian engines but has started to advance because it can afford much more R&D than Russia can. But no one is anywhere close to the F-135 engine. (The Tu-160’s engines have higher top-end thrust but are much larger physically and have much shorter lifespans and slower acceleration). And now the US is already advancing beyond the F-135. So basically, China and especially Russia have a long way to go.

[@davidkillens8143]

@@bluemarlin8138 Agreed. But in any weapons race, one must attempt to be at least one, if not two steps ahead of the competition.

[@stupidburp]

China updates their engines by leasing commercial US aircraft. Every time the tech improves, it goes directly into the Chinese engine development programs. They now have better engines than the Russians by folding 737 tech into improvements to their domestic engines. Certain things are difficult to replicate but they can still use enough to create far more reliable engines that last longer with less maintenance.

[@CherryBoyReloaded]

XA100 + XA101 200kN class 3 Stream Adaptive Cycles Engines for F35 + 6G already exist - with lower IR + RF observability + Commercial fuel economy even with greater thrust - with affordability the issue of replacing F135 engines with a newer variant or with this new engine destined for 6G...

[@Tattlebot]

@@bluemarlin8138 This is a distortion, but it is not relevant because advanced engine technology is not relevant to real war. For a real war you need an "advanced minimum technology engine".

[@TK199999]

If you want to know a good approximation of the NGAD, think of the mission purposed for the B-1R Bomber program. Only that the NGAD is supposed to be faster (though I am dubious is high speed will not be sacrificed for range/stealth) and much much more stealthy, with less range (since the B-1 is still an intercontinental bomber plateform).

[@truquichan]

Great video, an ode to the "educated guesses" because we dont have anything more than the phisics and some technology paths.

[@radonsider9692]

Ad was entertaining not gonna lie

[@NomaD10111]

If u closely look at the wording, the next 6th Gen. may not actually be a fighter but rather more of a bomber type with fighter characteristics.

[@nighthawk4028]

I believe it will not carry any weapon but will have laser weapons, air to air missile will be carried by drone wingman and ngad will only guide the missile.

[@TURKWING]

Art images revealed conditional activated vertical stabilizer and rudder (in case of maneuverability). If Stealth is necessary without high maneuverability, these 2 vertical stabilizers is closed back and integrated into the wing surfaces.

[@Ilyak1986]

Sounds a lot like...the X-02 Wyvern from Ace Combat, IIRC? Was that the jet that could fold its tails, or just its wings? Edit: yep, it's the X-02 that can fold its vertical stabilizers. That said, just having the plane be one big triangle seems like it's going to have some maneuverability tradeoffs. Not sure that's a good route to go.

[@Nurhaal]

Also DEWs suffer mostly from cooling. The power package is small enough now, I've seen this. However, I think the issue is that the amount of extra space and mass for the cooling is problematic. It still makes more sense to use a gun in this day and age. But, a built in DEW for counter measure purposed (point defense) is likely on the table.

[@kathrynck]

Well, a "dazzler" type system can be compact and has pretty reasonable power draw. It doesn't really destroy missiles or airplanes, but it can blind them if they use optical or IR components. I think once you get to the power level where you could physically destroy incoming missiles though, you may as well make it powerful enough to damage enemy aircraft as well, since there's not a huge increase in energy required between the two. Power is still an issue though. The lasers have gotten compact, as well as energy storage for them. But recharging will be very time consuming. And yeah, the cooling you mention is an issue as well. A gun doesn't have nearly as much range as a laser, incidentally. Nor does it have the aiming flexibility. Granted, the range of a laser is very weather dependent. Interestingly, the F-X (japan's bid for 6th gen) is said to employ a microwave band laser. It's a thought provoking idea. And the F-X program has had a lot of input from US defense contractors, which makes me think the F-X may showcase some of the tech the NGAD would lean towards. Their microwave laser apparently will be part of the radar... which to me suggests that it's not really a "laser", but rather a capability for an array radar to aim all of its array components into a single spot simultaneously, with a high degree of focus. Kind of a super-intense ECM function, and obviously derivative of the F-35's radar capabilities.

[@Nurhaal]

@@kathrynck it's interesting you bring up the Japanese platform. One of the things the APG-81 can do (along with other AESAs in the US arsenal) is perform a burn through. It can focus the entire array and push out a max output beam at a target that's nose on, and essentially fry the incoming threat's FCR. That's not Jamming. That's bludgeoning. It is, however, not the end all be all. Adequate shielding, even active shielding, is possible to block such attacks and such shielding methods are cheaper to develope that making a directed radiation weapon strong enough to mess up systems from 100km away. So I still think it will continue to be viable to have a gun on an air dominance platform.

[@kathrynck]

​@@Nurhaal All I can think of to say, is that Brewers bumped the Cardinals out of the number one slot in the national league central division. Very sad, but it's still close, and september is still a long way off. I guess that could change rapidly though, I wonder how long I can edit my post on youtube if the standings change?

[@Nurhaal]

@@kathrynck oof. That's some hard stuff right there. Don't edit it. Let the world have record of your pains.

[@kathrynck]

@@Nurhaal umm, it's ok, I'm not a huge sports fan. ... I was just, trying to be thoughtful about those who take sports very seriously.

[@jepleas9159]

Measure distance is available in the Bing Maps right click menu! I learn something every day.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Thanks for this! These match my thoughts as well... Also I would like to add simular spectulation/Sc-fi media/sims happened with the F-117 and most of it was dead wrong... but nearly all of it predected the F-22 in funstion just not form. Might be worth making a video about to see how and why people got the F-117 so wrong... For for me boils down to the Computer aided design/ simulations/super computer limits of the time.

[@maximilliancunningham6091]

Basically, an arrow head. Intuitively, makes sense.

[@douginorlando6260]

I expect a future aircraft will be designed for 1 thing … launching a large missile at high speed and high elevation. The extreme long range of the missile because it is launched at high speed and elevation would make the aircraft’s stealth and range unimportant (it stays within safe airspace). And since it has 1 role, many aircraft systems can be eliminated (making it lower cost, lighter, quicker to design). It might even have a rocket engine to boost top speed and altitude. It might have an oxygen tank to add oxygen to afterburner to reach top speed in rarefied air. The other next gen aircraft may be an air combat drone that is launched and retrieved by the mother ship. Without weight and aerodynamic compromises of a canopy, cockpit, large fuel tank, landing gear, and eliminating many systems, a 12,000 pound drone could have amazing specs including thrust to weight greater than 2:1, 20 G maneuvering and a short range weapon used for both defense and offense.

[@benokanruzgar8863]

8:55 I believe, all so called "6th gen" planes and most likely 15 years later, updated F-35's will be hybrid operative. Means, both can be fly empty & autonomous for long deployments, loaded & piloted for patrolling and fight. Missile Truck is a good idea, but in such high density cyberwar theater, noone risk such sruff to be taken by enemy. Especially since 2011, RQ-170 incident.

[@singular9]

I mean that's what the Su57 was designed in mind with. It's capable of flying remote.

[@Yuki_Ika7]

@@singular9 if the sources are to be believed that is

[@planalive9664]

I find it hard that it won't be hypersonic. Secondly I saw how you attempted to explain it's maneuverability with thrust vectoring. Try some some degree of antigravity or multi-vectoring. No cheesy ideas please. Some 4th gen aircrafts are already performing gravity or physics defying moves through pilot assist. What if you introduce AI and tech enhanced gravity defying efficiency moves? It's possible because the tech is already available and it's called flyby wire. What if it's taken several notches higher? I could go on and on the possible tech expected in the aircraft it will begin to look like a UFO. But I think that journey had already begun with stealth technology. The NGAD is not really about the shape but more about generational leap performance. My humble opinion. Nice work by the way.

[@XimCines]

Amazing what you can pull with the very few information available. Nice work.

[@pubatheoriginal]

Love his energy. Really enjoy listening, even the way he introduces the sponsor. Just Brilliant.

[@profo4544]

Yf-23 was the best start at this, compared to the yf-22 pr the raptor, wich is basically a evolved f-15 airframe, the yf-23 was a brand new airframe design. The yf-23 was larger than the f-22 and basically had a all around more stealth airframe, it was a brand new airframe, the f-22 is a f-15 basically evolved. It tails were about the size of an f-35 wing alone, making it really manueverable... according to some of the rcs data, it had some rediculous stats. Even for planes now. It could go mach 2.0 when the f-22 prototype was going mach 1.56. It also hid its rear heat signature alot better. I think these things make up for the 2d vectoring, advancements in missile tech is going to make "super manueverability" for a fighter pointless.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Tail less F-23? That would look awesome

[@animalanimal7939]

They thought missiles would rule back in Vietnam. Turns out not so much. So lasers. Yeah. Can’t beat a laser

[@RogueBeatsARG]

@@animalanimal7939 Also lasers can be use in defense more than in offense, they could shoot down incoming missiles

[@ACEOFB7R]

Not to mention they were able to keep it stealthy while having intakes under the wing while solving for the boundary air with vents above. Maybe ngad will incorporate a use for that air in aerodynamic control?

[@animalanimal7939]

@@RogueBeatsARG that’s a good point

[@peceed]

Lift fan in F-35 is around 21MW of power. Quite enough for direct energy weapons. If you have powerful (superconducting?) generators/motors, you can run one hot core in one engine and use second engine only as a fan (mechanical coupling is also possible). It allows to change (double) effective bypass ratio. It also allows to have additional independent pure electric fans, for example being a part of auxiliary maneuver inlets. Perfect thrust augmentators for take - off and low speed flight.

[@amdenis]

Great video, very funny and well done. One thing I should mention, in 2021 directed energy weapons for missiles, mortars, medium size drones and the like have now been successfully tested in the US and Israel. We are now ahead of those capabilities, and the rate of advancement is accelerating such that several major DE capabilities will be part of both our 6th Gen and tested and in limited deployment in our upcoming 5.5 G. This is all based on non-classified info.

[@Xylos101]

Honestly we need to go back to fridge cam over gym cam.

[@dexlab7539]

Loved the Frig Cam - also the USAF definitely have the best PIGs available 😂

[@perelfberg7415]

Real smooth. Real smooth. Good job descretly wraping in teasers for upcoming videos. Looking forward to the more detailed ones to come. What ever the subject might be.

[@keirfarnum6811]

I think pop up vertical stabs for WVR combat would be a great idea. In regular flight, they would be faired into the airfoil and only become usable if the plane gets into a knife fight.

[@GTOGregory]

I've seen a presentation from another source that stated there are two vertical stabilizers which can come up off the wing as necessary. When not needed they stay folded down.

[@nekomakhea9440]

NGAD kinda sounds like "Endgame" to me, that would be a really cool name for the finished fighter. "F-69 Endgame" has a nice ring to it

[@oddy1637]

Cringe

[@flossordie2256]

Gonna be the f-420 nice

[@LoisoPondohva]

@@flossordie2256 nah, that's the missile. AIM-420 aka Blunt

[@XimCines]

Love the "Endgame" idea.

[@draleigh8881]

F-69 Giggity

[@joshheselton633]

That was the smoothest transition into an ad (or one of) I've ever encountered

[@cygmoid]

Amazing video on the topic of the NGAD. Could you make a video on AWACS systems, like the E-3 Sentry , E-6 Mercury or E-2 Hawk Eye?

[@MrKbtor2]

You make the best videos on these subjects!

[@Harley-D-Mcdonald]

It's always a good day when I see you've made a new video. ✨️

[@MrKbtor2]

Will be interesting to see how close your deductions turn out to be or even match reality

[@adbell3364]

Very informative. Thanks!

[@nicholasmaude6906]

In regards to the NGAD's engines these two development programmes would be involved, the GE XA-100 ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_XA100 ) and the P&W XA-101 ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_XA101 ).

[@crimcrusader8459]

Are these engines not also the same AETP Engines that would be used to upgrade the F-35A and the F-35C Fighter planes? Would make some sense for parts commonality with the NGAD and possibly the F/A-XX.

[@gravyd316]

It's nice to see a unbiased perspective on the evolution of airpower. Here's the real question. How long until China "develops" something similar? I honestly want to know what our intelligence agencies are doing for my tax dollars. I've seen that a lot of the information China received about the F-35 and F-22 was actually counterintelligence but that remains to be seen.

[@dwizzleusa4202]

They are square shaped exhaust for stealth reasons round exhaust gives off bigger rcs.

[@johnn1250]

Will the NGAD projects be as maneuverable as the F-22? Or do you think the missile "slinging" and super agile missiles will make Super Maneuverability irrelevant. Are the USAF and USN NGADs being built by the same manufacturer?

[@brokenmoon3300]

I suspect the NGADs would have a great focus on BVR fighting with only comparable maneuverability, if not slightly worse, than the F-22. That being said, once stealth gets so good that radar and IRST brings fights close enough that a merge is likely, a more maneuverable design might be ideal.

[@Ilyak1986]

@@brokenmoon3300 agreed here. Scifi shows often boil down to "radar is useless, so all fights are within visual range, so we could show you robots having jedi lightsaber duels!" (Sorry, my inner gundam fan came out =P) That, or a bunch of closer-to-WVR fighting ala Ace Combat, which is why the fictional jets there are often about tons of maneuverability while still retaining stealth (see: X-02 Wyvern)

[@sevrent2811]

We don’t know. If the USAF goes for stealth alone it will probably no be as maneuverable. There are some technologies that can allow you to have stealth and good maneuverability, such as active flow control. But we have absolutely no clue of NGAD will use it. Research and demonstration tests of active flow control already exists, and DARPA is working with Lockheed and Boeing to make a X-plane that uses active flow control exclusively. Active flow control allows you to maneuver without using moving surfaces which is bad for stealth. For example. BAE has used active flow control to do some level of thrust vectoring without using massive moving nozzles as you see on Russian jets. Something like third could allow a very stealthy NGAD to retain maneuverability

[@DAAllan82]

My guess is that maneuverability will be sacrificed for range, cruising speed and stealth. The enemy is China, which means much greater distances than a European theater. We basically need to counter China invading Taiwan, and our closest bases are in Guam. Even with mid air refueling you don’t want to leave a tanker vulnerable, so combat radius is going to be hugely important as will the speed to get to the target quickly.

[@blackpigeon4743]

15 minutes ended so quickly

[@jebise1126]

direct energy weapons can be so easily countered with energy deflecting materials. really easy to put on missiles and missiles that have high temperature stress (very fast missiles) will easily survive such weapon anyway since exposure to it will be very short. probably direct energy weapons will remain only to distract sensors.... even than can be protected with filters anyway...

[@harveyhill2186]

Good job of using the robot straight man in your Nord VPN ad.

[@CRAZYHORSE19682003]

I expect one version of the NGAD will be a 2/3 scale B-21. It will not be a super maneuverable platform but instead it will be hyper stealthy with a massive fuel and payload capacity. Match that with the most sophisticated sensors ever seen in an aircraft. I will simply blow everything out of the sky while super cruising at 70,000 undetected.

[@Noisy_Cricket]

@Mark Smith yup, no reason not to when F35 and maybe even F22 will be able to guide the missiles. Combine that with longer range Meteor/Aim260 amd you've got a winner. Will be great for guided atg/sea cruise missiles too.

[@nDjinn1]

The sci fi stuff is making itself visible to people all over the USA, UK and EU

[@apocraphontripp4728]

ive got a feeling that the public has already seen it. hidden in plain sight. I think Its the plane in Top Gun.

[@garynew9637]

Otis wants to take over the show.

[@CausticLemons7]

I enjoyed learning about airplanes from your microwave.

[@m1ken_01]

You definitely need more subs,great content.

[@trevorbender2307]

Had no idea the Navy was in the mix. Lol THANK YOU for the upload.🤘🇺🇲

[@matsv201]

Is there any realstic way of cooling the air in the engine post compresson... or . Mid compression to increase speed but retain some sort of medium speed efficency?

[@TexasGreed]

Im hedging my bets on Northrup. Their tailless design experience is important.

[@SukhoyBoy4113]

The economy doesn't looking promising though.

[@stupidburp]

Should be spending finite funds on scaled up production of current aircraft instead of unaffordable future tech that only helps adversaries subsidize their projects through espionage.

[@donwilson1307]

Wish you were my ROTC instructor. You are interesting/compelling, full of info. Would have been a better student. Well, maybe??

[@jimrobcoyle]

It better not cut our Social Security. #Aloha

[@billhanna2148]

Thank you 🙏 again for your EXCELLENT work 🙏👏👏👏💪 #1 I remember a while back that a western jet manufacturer was incorporating electric generation within the engine core to produce a quantum leap in electrical power ...I wonder if you have seen it too? #2 I since this aircraft will have to operate at extreme high and low speeds is there any chance that a swing wing might be viable??

[@BillyBobBench]

That’s one heck of a refrigerator

[@mcanderson0]

Ahhh, good ol' MEEN 472 (Gas Dyn). I really enjoyed that technical elective.

[@hiphip4808]

I wonder if in the future, the generations between aircraft now, namely 4.5 and 5 will just become 5th gen and 6th gen will be the new hottness

[@marnig9185]

"Plasma" vectoring woudl emit polarized Light,the same reason Plasma stealth will not work against passiv mode radar:)

[@GTOGregory]

I look forward to your presentation once the NGAD Fighter is in production. Where is your information that says there will not be any direct energy weapons?

[@johnnycee5179]

I glued rubbers all over my lap top, it's protected.

[@blurglide]

Maybe some kind of retractable canard would make sense. Use it when you need high maneuverability, or for takeoff and landing, and leave it tucked in the rest of the time.

[@halfpintcustoms3428]

Are you talking about engines like the sr71 ? Where the nacelle changes while in flight? For bypass ratio?

[@namedperson1436]

Even if there could be enough power to have a laser that destroys missiles, it would still be useless due to time to kill and size of incoming salvo. @mach 2 the merge speed with a mach 4 missile is about 1900m/s. The laser can't destroy targets at too long range (some 20-30km maximum with 20 seconds for ship based laser vs plastic drone), and with something like 5-10 seconds to destroy a missile, a salvo of 2-3 missiles will be impossible to destroy in time, even in the future. There is a niche for those weapons, but it is better to build more shorter range missiles that can handle an incoming salvo (even smaller than the Aim-9).

[@Gunni1972]

I see a ton of Problems with those stats and requirements, and the closest contender to it was the YF-23. Thrust vectoring at Mach 2.8? it better have NO delta wing. Or have Speed-adaptive thrust vectoring. But hey, we're talking 6th gen here. so, no pilot. You can do all kinda crazy stuff with Drones nowadays.

[@kathrynck]

Russia flies planes which have thrust vectoring and can go that fast. You just don't want to do any significant vectoring at such speeds. Ideally you'd slave the degree of vectoring to the airspeed, so that it's "moderated".

[@Gunni1972]

@@kathrynck That's what i meant with "Speed-adaptive". And Mach 2.8 is reserved for MIG-31, which does not thrust vector.

[@kathrynck]

@@Gunni1972 *nod* , well i mean, planes don't use their slots at mach 3 either ;) doesn't mean they can't have it as a feature. But it does mean (if it turns out that TV is ill advised, even in moderated amounts) that you may need additional tools to replace the vertical stabilizer.

[@user-jn2fq5ko4b]

Frank Kendall said Lockheed Martin's NGAD in 2022 will cost 10 times more than the F35.

[@k9killer221]

Two orders of magnitude more stealthy? That's 100 times more stealthy. An order of magnitude is 10 and two times is 100. Pardon me if my belief is not suspended.

[@DAAllan82]

I’m not sure if he meant it this way, but he could be talking about full spectrum stealth, not just radar. If you eliminate the electronic signature, heat signature, visual signature, etc, you could get that kind of increased stealth.

[@darkofc]

👍👍 P.S. (yes, we are aviation geeks, but pancetta ❤❤ is THE most beautiful..)

[@brucebaxter6923]

Good old mv vs 1/2mv^2 Wondered when the fan would be adopted as first stage compressor at high altitude or power

[@craigkdillon]

sounds like something out of a sci-fi novel. We have come so far. Amazing.

[@tomte47]

My guess is that it is going to be a lot bigger then most fighters. Thinking su-34/mig31 size at least with two engines derived from the F-135. Sacrificing some maneuverability for the benefits that come with a larger size like more range, higher weapons load and room/energy for a more powerful radar.

[@nfineon]

No need for thrust vectoring if it can hit near mach 3 in full stealth. 2 orders of magnitude would be 100x stealthier which sounds way too much but let's see.

[@mrgabagoo580]

I love the humour that goes with this guy's videos.

[@assertivekarma1909]

Maybe we are finally getting the UFO disc.

[@dejvi5711]

What about MiG-41?

[@Nurhaal]

We call it 'JAY-TAM' when it comes to saying the acronym in a phonetic manner.

[@alexbuss3377]

So we got a video on the NGAD AND a house tour?!!