The 7hz Timeless II is an ABSOLUTE Monster that Deserves HYPE

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8 ай бұрын

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The 7hz Timeless II is the sequel to the company's most successful earphones of all time. With a huge 14.5mm planar driver inside and by choosing to adopt some quirky design cues, they have managed to create one of the best earphones of 2023
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@fahryst
@fahryst 8 ай бұрын
Glad that you mention those tips. They are 7Hz H07 tips. They are actually identical to KBear K07 tips but the box comes with 5 pairs those color coded white tips with a pair of those black sticky ones. I'll add a link if you want.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
This is what i needed thanks
@MrBillUp
@MrBillUp 6 ай бұрын
I love my Timeless I exactly because they are round, and separate them from any other earphones on the market. And I don't think they look stupid at all. Not forgetting just how stunning they sound. I haven't tried the Timeless II but you are making me want to upgrade.
@Andyhandle
@Andyhandle 8 ай бұрын
Really, really good review, thorough and your enthusiasm comes through. I've got the first 7hz Timeless and love them - they're fun. However, they run into problems with complex classical (the sennheiser ie600 sound so much better for complex classical). Any thoughts on how do these Timeless 7hz version 2 do with complex classical? And do they have any downsides with the silver tip (or any other tip) compared to the first Timeless 7hz?
@tomfaulkner2662
@tomfaulkner2662 8 ай бұрын
I feel exactly the same, just totally overwhelmed, your opinion at the start of the video made me subscribe, its not just the rediculous collabs, its the hype that you have to contend with when all you want is an honest opinion, fair play for highlighting something that so many of us in this hobby are fed up with
@IEM_Unbox_Review
@IEM_Unbox_Review 8 ай бұрын
I love the circular top they retained it looks like a vinyl disc
@taipan75
@taipan75 8 ай бұрын
I think they're the same tip that came with the Dioko. Thanks for the review. Loves the original, have to get T2 when it comes out 👍..
@paulosilva8200
@paulosilva8200 8 ай бұрын
I can see they have sponge density filters inside the nozzle. The nozzle that slided the sound on the side ways must be the same as some of the dd drivers are not directly and makes a sound more soft and warm and then the density filter makes the tuning plus the size of the hole. The smaller the more treble it gets
@TBMartin
@TBMartin 8 ай бұрын
The day my freezer and dryer packs up is the same day i find out there is going to be another Timeless, great timing lol I adore the Timeless and its been my daily driver for about 2 years now. Its been my daily driver because i couldn't find anything else to replace them until now. I must be one of the few people who likes the design, the disc shape makes it unique and i like that. Thank you for the video
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 29 күн бұрын
No problem, they still do not exist :D
@TBMartin
@TBMartin 29 күн бұрын
@@maegnificant 7 months ago I left that comment, why reply now?
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 29 күн бұрын
@@TBMartin because I saw it now and the Timeless II is cancelled apparently, without notice.
@TBMartin
@TBMartin 29 күн бұрын
@@maegnificant So how do you know about it?
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 29 күн бұрын
@@TBMartin well because the product page has been deleted for half a year now.
@angelmamaril6396
@angelmamaril6396 7 ай бұрын
great review! may I ask which filter do you like most?
@r00s.
@r00s. 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait for these!
@NickFabi
@NickFabi 6 ай бұрын
I have read that the release for these have been delayed due to them needing to retune them. If that is the case I am curious how different the final product will sound. If this is not correct then perhaps they are just swamped with orders and are trying to catch up!
@informedchoice2249
@informedchoice2249 6 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, good review.
@Sakhi
@Sakhi 8 ай бұрын
I think I'm in the minority but I love the disc design. They don't make the IEM uncomfortable for me and I feel it's a distinct design where us guys in the hobby know just by the shape what IEM it is
@Mark_dj86
@Mark_dj86 8 ай бұрын
You might say, it's a 'Timeless' design ;)
@GoldFus1on
@GoldFus1on 8 ай бұрын
I was worried the timeless design would interfere with my ear shape. Glad it doesn’t affect me also the nozzle depth into the ear isn’t too intrusive and was a good transition iem from traditional earbuds
@squall6789
@squall6789 6 ай бұрын
Are there any IEMs or buds that DO give that out-of-head sound? I'm an audiophile looking for a VR sound solution.
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 8 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest I get confused between Timeless, Timeless AE, and Timeless II.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
The filters on this one seem to be the big differentiating factor! And a remarkable one at that considering I hate the concept. I
@DirectorsGarage
@DirectorsGarage 8 ай бұрын
Timeless is the original. Timeless AE has enhanced bass. Timeless II is the next-gen Timeless.
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 29 күн бұрын
Timeless II is the one that never came out😊
@AudioReviewsDownunder
@AudioReviewsDownunder 8 ай бұрын
I have a set of those tips too, I think I got my pair with some tips that were very similar to the Kbear 07 tips. Not sure if they're kbear or maybe bgvp. Wish I knew. I have used them occasionally, although they are a medium ish size, which often doesn't quite give me the seal I want, so I mostly use the large Kbear 07. I kind of wish I had a slightly larger pair of these tips, they would be really good to have.
@josephnevin
@josephnevin 8 ай бұрын
I have the OG timeless and i love it so much so that it has become by go to IEM for enjoying my music. The only eay foreard i see is to get a tribrid from thieaudio like the oracle or for my end game - the monarch mk3. Will this be a proper upgrade to my og timeless or should i save up and aim for the mk3?
@informedchoice2249
@informedchoice2249 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for that review i've heard a few reviews now somebody else reviewed them and hated them absolutely hated them strange isn't it perhaps they didn't use the tips on it.
@jasongibson3574
@jasongibson3574 8 ай бұрын
Is this the pre-production? I saw another reviewer have one last week and he said it was pre-production and 7hz was still changing the tuning
@donkolaptyan2449
@donkolaptyan2449 5 ай бұрын
So, which one of 7Hz timeless would u recommend for listening to different styles of metal and electronic music? As a source: Fiio M15S.
@itsMe_TheHerpes
@itsMe_TheHerpes 8 ай бұрын
what do you think about aria and aria snow ? are they any good ?
@MiroslavHundak
@MiroslavHundak 8 ай бұрын
I have both Timeless and Timeless AE. The differences in sound are minor. The AE version has +3 dB boost in sub/low-bass, which I appreciate, and the extended treble that a lot of people found fatiguing is a bit less harsh. They also have 2-pin connectors instead of MMCX and ship with much thicker cable with replaceable terminations (3.5 mm unbalanced + 2.5 and 4.5 mm balanced). In terms of sound the +$50 premium doesn't seem worth it as you can easily EQ regular Timeless to sound like AE, but the upgraded cable and 2-pin connectors makes up for it in my opinion. I'm really looking forward to Timeless II as I've been using Timeless AE on a daily basis since they came out.
@Mykeoguns
@Mykeoguns 8 ай бұрын
How is imaging aka macrodynamics on both? Could you rate them on a scale of 1-10?
@MiroslavHundak
@MiroslavHundak 8 ай бұрын
@@Mykeoguns I wish I could give a precise answer, but my collection of IEMs is too limited for that. I would put imaging at 6, as in OK, but not as good as Blessing 2. I've no idea where to put macrodynamics. I guess somewhere around 7, if I'm using "Pinta, Nina, Santa Maria (Into Eternity)" by Vangelis for testing, which I often do. Emphasis on "guess".
@Mykeoguns
@Mykeoguns 8 ай бұрын
@@MiroslavHundak thanks for the response. I am to buy just one set to close this year and I'm looking at getting any of those for 11:11
@leonardopapantoniou4227
@leonardopapantoniou4227 8 ай бұрын
Mmm. Replacable terminations. More bass. More polished highs. Planar. A kind of Deja vu. I saw this evolution in S12 vs S12 pro
@AudioReviewsDownunder
@AudioReviewsDownunder 8 ай бұрын
I like these nozzles, they're very different, I would be interested to hear their sonic characteristics. Although I doubt I'll get a chance to, they're a bit out of my budget right now.
@sheerkhanful
@sheerkhanful 6 ай бұрын
Are you still a fan of the Dorado 2020? I own a pair myself and they continue to pay dividends as time goes by. Any change you'll review the Campfire Supermoon?
@AbuFarouq
@AbuFarouq 5 ай бұрын
I’ve had earphones with a similar circular design from advance acoustic werkes called the andromeda.
@EG-MAN
@EG-MAN 8 ай бұрын
I hope that is the final version, Resolve did a quick impressions and it didn't go well, probably the same as Mr HBB who is silent for now...
@VishnuKare
@VishnuKare 8 ай бұрын
Nice review. Worth upgrade over the OG?
@reflection1119
@reflection1119 8 ай бұрын
I have tried the Azla eartips on your recommendation, with the prestige LTD (also on your recommendation). I find the Azla collects dirt and dust far too much. I'm curious to know why you like them so much? Also have you tried the Dunu S&S tips? Id love to hear your impressions on those. (You may have a set with your SA6 MKII)
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
I think the same reason most people like them is the reason you don't. The grippyness of the material, it grips the inner ear, forms a great seal. For me I keep the iem's in a pelican case so not really collecting dirt, maybe occasional dust at which point u can just rinse it off and they go back to being tacky. An alternative is of course the E series tips from final. Great tips but without the stickyness you mention.
@reflection1119
@reflection1119 6 ай бұрын
I've spent some time trying the Azlas (Xelastec and Crystal) the Dunu S&S and the Final E (clear version) All great eartips - but my favourites are the Final E tips, best fit for me.
@dorisisaway355
@dorisisaway355 8 ай бұрын
Apparently release is being delayed as they’re fiddling about with tuning. Any chance you can come back to this set when the retail version comes out?
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Yes for sure and i think its something to do with that awful filter tip that came as stock.
@Gambit33
@Gambit33 8 ай бұрын
You should try to get your hands on the Audeze Euclid. It's discontinued and Audeze stopped manufacturing them, but it's the best planar IEM without the need for EQ. Could be bought on the secondary market at a reasonable price.
@blorg8206
@blorg8206 8 ай бұрын
It needs EQ more than the likes of the Timeless/S12 and all the other recent planars. It's also very variable as to what exactly you get, so not only does it need EQ, you sort of need your own measuring rig to even know what to do about it. I have it, it's good... after EQ. Before EQ, any of the recent planars are much better tuned.
@Gambit33
@Gambit33 8 ай бұрын
@@blorg8206 Not even close to being true. I have the Euclid and it sounds very natural and correct than most of my IEMs, including my Thieaudio Monarch MKIII, which is expertly tuned. I guarantee you don't even own the Euclid and most likely have never listened to it.
@colddish
@colddish 8 ай бұрын
I have the AE and love it. Love the so called stupid design too and the best part is it fits my ear nicely. So yeah will definitely check out V2.
@tomfaulkner2662
@tomfaulkner2662 8 ай бұрын
Nice review but the artti T10 planars cost just $80 and they sound that good i do not feel the need to upgrade to the timeless 2.
@leksasdf
@leksasdf 6 ай бұрын
Do these have the sibilance issues of the original Timeless? I am one of those weirdos who really like the fit of the Timeless, but the upper mids and treble ruins the earphone for me.
@dylanclarke2949
@dylanclarke2949 2 ай бұрын
watched this when it came out and man these still don't even have a release date. so in a weird way, this video saved me a good chunk of money while i continue to wait haha
@dorisisaway355
@dorisisaway355 8 ай бұрын
The only first impression I’d heard was pretty negative. But the stock filter might account for that. Don’t usually go for follow up sets and not keen on the faceplate but now getting interested. Great review and always good to have a new Audiolevels vid. Editing was a bit choppy. Don’t know if it’s because I’m used to the single take but I found some of the edits a bit distracting. Have you tried the Night Oblivion Butastor? Multi BA set from an independent producer. Very hyped on headfi. About $600. Can’t stand it.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
I think if someone heard the stocks it would give a bad taste straigh off. The only reason i continued was because in my experience these types of tips dont do much but the shape was so unique i threw on the original, was impressed and moved on to the final one not expecting much. Glad i did have spent the full day today listening to them and they are getting added to the rotation. Will just stick with the silver filters though and not mess around from here. Thanks i was trying something with the video style, thinking to maybe go to a talking head style as i get more comfortable. But i like doing the one takes a bit more, it just feels less scripted and planned and im more likely to articulate how i feel about something in that format.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Not tried that one, in fact I hadn't heard of it. 10 BA a side? I just can't seeing it outperform my skuld or SA6MKii with BA's it just comes down to tuning after 5 drivers.
@GoodBoyShep
@GoodBoyShep 8 ай бұрын
Man, I wish I wasnt poor nowadays. Cause I was looking to get a new iem soon, and the 7hz is one of my favs
@shortsweetreviews
@shortsweetreviews 8 ай бұрын
Great review. Glad you mention everything about the tips. Glad you mentioned Polyphia as I've never heard of them but but I am listening to them.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Definetley try their songs, GOAT, Ego Death and Playing God but the entire catalogue is hypnotic.
@matusjurcik6974
@matusjurcik6974 5 ай бұрын
Better than Kinera Skuld? 😁. That filters their design, there has to be a lot of resonances (by nature) propably something can make up for it ...
@misterfinerthings
@misterfinerthings 8 ай бұрын
Apparently, they've delayed the release to make some last minute adjustments. At least that's what the Linsoul rep said. You may have a rare edition!
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
If true my guess would be something to with that filter that came on it. Or hoping for a miracle with them chopping the circle off lol.
@matusjurcik6974
@matusjurcik6974 5 ай бұрын
that blue deonthey ,,wilder,, honey amp u have on the desk. Is it any good? 😄 Can it ,,punch,, hard? I mean in the price bracket ...
@derpderp283
@derpderp283 8 ай бұрын
Is the detail retrieval inproved from og timeless? If so, is it noticeable enough?
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Its more aking to the detail retrival style of the P1 than anything. The original Timeless was already very detailed but theis feels clearer depending on the fileters. With the original style filters (similar to the nozzle on the original) installed on the II is feels very similar. Its only when i threw on the silver filter it really stood out in many aspects. With the gold nipple filters it also sounded very revealing but had a slight metalic sheen. The silver filter kept the improvements with zero adverse affects. Its by far my favourite planar now even though is still love the P1's i think this is so much more versatile and finally has that holographic planar presentation.
@derpderp283
@derpderp283 8 ай бұрын
@@AudioLevels thanks for the reply, really considering getting it
@edwarddodge7937
@edwarddodge7937 5 ай бұрын
If you already have the Timeless is it worth it to upgrade to Timeless II?
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 5 ай бұрын
Yes absolutely but for some reason i hear they are still delayed
@exaltedrivera5758
@exaltedrivera5758 8 ай бұрын
The timeless ae is my endgame and I love them to death, but why do I have this urge to own these just because lol
@epicmike3915
@epicmike3915 8 ай бұрын
They went back to using mmxc cable. IMO that's a step backwards. All my cables including my moondrop littlewhite bt use two pin and no I'm not purchasing an adapter lol. mmcx is incredibly unreliable.
@MisterRhul
@MisterRhul 8 ай бұрын
I suffer from an incridible indecision problem, so, more options, less likely I am to buy something.
@Yergs
@Yergs 5 ай бұрын
How would you say they compare to the Letshouer S12 Pro (which I have and like)?
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 5 ай бұрын
A level up in refinement used with the right nozzle. Are the still refining the filters or are they fully release, i havent been keeping up.
@Yergs
@Yergs 5 ай бұрын
@@AudioLevels i haven't either.
@anthonywinder6657
@anthonywinder6657 5 ай бұрын
Still not released! You can reserve a unit for $1 on their website, but I am waiting to see the price before I commit.
@ballad_bird
@ballad_bird 8 ай бұрын
With the Chopin, Tangzu HBB and Nova, this'll have to wait
@georgbrandl
@georgbrandl 7 ай бұрын
Hey Mr. Audiolevels! I'm looking for a really bassy iem under 100USD, but the bass needs to be quick and textured. Do you have any recommendations? Thanks in advance.
@gigantique
@gigantique 8 ай бұрын
Thanx.. What about imaging and soundstage? A lot of users of OG Timeless was not satisfied with the soundstage width. It was nice imaging,instr. seperation but the soundstage width was bad..Is Timeless 2 -changed that ?
@Tealc2323
@Tealc2323 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. I was waiting for this. Ugly with a horrible cable. Massive missed opportunity here. So sad! I had Dusk and KATO as mains and when I got the Timeless it was instant LOVE and became my main for one year! I replaced it with OH10+oratory1990 target EQ. It's been my main since March. In the meantime, I tried A5000, Quartet, Orchestra Lite, and IE 200, but OH10 is still my absolute favorite.
@anatol1204
@anatol1204 8 ай бұрын
How do you EQ it ?I can't find a good android EQ.SoundID and the app of my UTWS5 don t hold my custom settings.I don t know why.Afrer a while they forgot them.I have to remake the custom profile from the start..
@mutlitaskin
@mutlitaskin 8 ай бұрын
I know my question pertains to two different driver types, but 7Hz Timeless II or Thieaudio Hype 2?
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Both extremely capable. Depending on what you would like in driver style get it based on that. More detail and clarity on the timeless though. Hype obviously win the ergos, style and cable etc but sound is great on both and really mixes things up at these prices.
@mutlitaskin
@mutlitaskin 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your input!!!
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 29 күн бұрын
Well, where are they though??
@victoriou5archives
@victoriou5archives 8 ай бұрын
my left ear enjoyed this review
@ifteykharulislam
@ifteykharulislam 8 ай бұрын
As a a basshead can i buy this ?
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
The bass can be strong on these with the right tips but if bass is a priority above all else at this price point you will find the IKKO OH10
@user-hb9fp4vs2f
@user-hb9fp4vs2f 8 ай бұрын
You can buy if you got money. But I dont recommend since planar cannot do subbass, only boomy midbass. Lots of it.
@epicmike3915
@epicmike3915 8 ай бұрын
Ugh MMCX cable. I'm out. Why would you do this again after the Timeless AE?
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Whats the problem with the AE. I prefer MMCX by a long way, only cables i have had fail are 2 pin.
@epicmike3915
@epicmike3915 8 ай бұрын
@@AudioLevels I should have wrote that better. There's no problem with the AE. The AE is better IMO because it uses two pin. Is all preference, but I will say more people are on my side of the fence. MMCX fails way more often. Just read how many people complain about mmcx in many audio forums.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
@@epicmike3915 Ah yes understand. Both definetley have there issues. Tin with the really tight mmcx is a cause for concern. for me bending pins used to be an issue but that's mitigated now we have interchangeable balanced connectors on the termination side. It used to be i would have to change the cable with when i changed player putting more stress on the pins. The other issue i had was with corroded terminals. Many 2 pins have exposed copper in the inside and that would corrode with the ingress of sweat. Funnily enough the logical side of me says QDC is correct in theory but damn I just cant lol
@CLaudiusClemensJimmy
@CLaudiusClemensJimmy 8 ай бұрын
sound like mest mkiii killer mate, theres nothing wrong with hyping one products, it is because we are overwhelmed by it, thanks for the review mate, take care & always God Bless 🙏from indonesia
@Ksn228
@Ksn228 8 ай бұрын
So timeless they are making a third iteration already
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
The state of play in the earphone market. More sequels than the FF franchise...... Family of course.
@soejrd24978
@soejrd24978 8 ай бұрын
aiii, I just bought the Timeless v1 this week.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Still a great earphone.
@timebandit1338
@timebandit1338 8 ай бұрын
These or a pair of Audeze Euclid priced around 400 euros mint condition?🤕
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
The Audeze because of the price but those things at full retail were terrible value. Competitive with tribrids in the 500-700 range.
@timebandit1338
@timebandit1338 8 ай бұрын
@@AudioLevels Always helpful, thank you in advance!
@tradehut2782
@tradehut2782 8 ай бұрын
7hz is the GOAT of planars
@tomfaulkner2662
@tomfaulkner2662 8 ай бұрын
For me the artti t10 is the best of all time, and the p1 max, the t10s are in a league of there own and cost £60
@sandychow94
@sandychow94 8 ай бұрын
planar war, VS KIWI EARS MELODY
@TOM7952
@TOM7952 8 ай бұрын
Great review, the sticker-like look did come across on camera and I agree it looks bad.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Yup super cheap. most other cases a company would use a solid inlay.
@exexgr6897
@exexgr6897 8 ай бұрын
Will they produce others without the "stupid faceplate" so that we have a choice?
@Rsalmond83
@Rsalmond83 8 ай бұрын
Those tips look like Lizer JiJu tips from Japan. If so, win!!!
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Definetley not them
@Nutube-6P1
@Nutube-6P1 8 ай бұрын
King of planar huh ? So CA supermoon and Audeze Euclid is just a joke. 😂
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Overpriced to the moon
@trubadyr99
@trubadyr99 2 ай бұрын
It's always ruining the credibility of a review to me when an audio review recorded with substandard audio quality as this review has been. After all: he supposed to respect the audio quality of his recordings, doesn't he?
@Jan_de_Mor
@Jan_de_Mor 8 ай бұрын
WTF... bets sounding iems under -let's say 600€- but at the same time the uglier looking ones and with a weird cable? 7Hz being 7Hz, no doubt... what a company!
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Think the hope people will come a Round to the idea.
@DwayneNielsen
@DwayneNielsen 8 ай бұрын
These things are even more ugly than the original but I will probably sell the og and get these as sound is the most important thing.
@masterazlan6999
@masterazlan6999 8 ай бұрын
Timeless has this curve mmcx which is one of a kind Why the f... They dun use dat design anymore?? Yup cute vinyl looks frm 1st timeless just unique.. but not dis carbon fiber look like.. No.. Best things bout Timeless is their clarity towrds vocals.. IF they kept that Then its a Green light frm if not Na.. 1st one will just enough.. Peace!
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
The clarity is exceplitona thankfully. I might dremel off the excess circle and smooth it off for a video just so i can explain to them in plain sight why there design language is so off.
@masterazlan6999
@masterazlan6999 8 ай бұрын
Bro dis timeless2 reviews is the 1st worldwide which is so kewl Hmm UE premier next? Worlds 1st 42 transducer... Peace!
@yellowcone1
@yellowcone1 8 ай бұрын
The disc design is ugly.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
Agreed 100%
@user-hb9fp4vs2f
@user-hb9fp4vs2f 8 ай бұрын
Still NO SUBBASS. Fail!!!
@epicmike3915
@epicmike3915 8 ай бұрын
Seems like planars always roll off the sub bass. This is why I prefer dynamic drivers.
@AudioLevels
@AudioLevels 8 ай бұрын
All respect how do you know how they sound?
@blorg8206
@blorg8206 8 ай бұрын
@@epicmike3915 planars typically have very good sub-bass extension, certainly in over-ears they are better than dynamics. If you want sub-bass in a planar IEM, look at something like the OG Zetian Wu.
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