The 98km Conveyor Belt System & The International Border Dispute

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The Tim Traveller

The Tim Traveller

4 жыл бұрын

Deep in the Sahara desert is the world's longest conveyor belt system. I went to see this king of conveyors, to find out why it was built, only to discover how its story is deeply intertwined with an international border dispute...
CREDITS
Original map of Morocco Protectorate by Cradel (adaptations are my own work) - commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ca...
Phosphate stats from US Geological Survey - www.usgs.gov/centers/nmic/pho...
Map music from the Map Men series by Jay Foreman - • MAP MEN

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@TheTimTraveller
@TheTimTraveller 4 жыл бұрын
Hi - a few clarifications based on your comments: * If all you want is the conveyor belt, not the story behind it, skip straight to 4:20 :) * The "70% of the world's phosphates" figure refers to Morocco's reserves, not production. China actually produces more than Morocco does at the moment, but of course at current rates, that means China will run out a long time before Morocco does. There is also some debate about the 70% figure depending on how you define "reserves" - whether it should be total reserves, or what is called "accessible reserves". It's not currently possible to access the full extent of Morocco's reserves due to the limits of mining technology. * Most of those phosphate reserves are in undisputed Moroccan territory. The 3 million tonnes produced by the Bou Craa mine accounts for about 10% of Morocco's yearly production.
@mabamabam
@mabamabam 4 жыл бұрын
Thats a nice system. If you want the world's longest conveyor (singular) you need Boddington bauxite mine in Western Australia. 30km long single piece of rubber.
@chukty
@chukty 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, because the united states, india, Pakistan, afghanistan, zimbabwe, south africa, ireland,... were all NOT colonized by Britain
@mrwolf9335
@mrwolf9335 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Bjornssen weird that you are Indian and from India......plank
@mrwolf9335
@mrwolf9335 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Bjornssen the future of your demise
@assassinlexx1993
@assassinlexx1993 3 жыл бұрын
Disappointed that you failed to show drive for the belt. With so little about the belt, not even showing the belt working. Just crap about fighting over sand.
@Captain.Miller
@Captain.Miller 4 жыл бұрын
0:41 ¿Map Men, Map Men, Map, Map, Map Men, Men, Men?
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan 4 жыл бұрын
... men men men men men men men men men ...
@eftalanquest
@eftalanquest 4 жыл бұрын
holy shit totally didn't noticed that
@julianvons1304
@julianvons1304 4 жыл бұрын
Or in dutch, man man man man man ;)
@mikaxms
@mikaxms 4 жыл бұрын
@@julianvons1304 Man (EN) = Man (NL), Men (EN) = Mannen (NL)
@julianvons1304
@julianvons1304 4 жыл бұрын
Mika de Grote ik bedoelde eerder Rob Geus (I was mentioning Rob Geus)
@happyundertaker6255
@happyundertaker6255 4 жыл бұрын
A well conveyed point
@McRocket
@McRocket 4 жыл бұрын
Good one.
@PrimetimeNut
@PrimetimeNut 4 жыл бұрын
*puns aren’t funny*
@McRocket
@McRocket 4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimetimeNut They are not funny to you, maybe. I got a chuckle out of it. And judging by the thumbs up the comment got, so did a LOT of other people.
@PercivalBlakeney
@PercivalBlakeney 4 жыл бұрын
@Whirlybird Well you have to remember, there are ten types of people in the World; those who understand binary... and those who don't. 🙂
@hutarhutar3200
@hutarhutar3200 4 жыл бұрын
@@PrimetimeNut they are punny
@garrick3727
@garrick3727 3 жыл бұрын
I was fully expecting to see my suitcase the airline lost in 1994 on that conveyor belt.
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 3 жыл бұрын
So I am Not the Only One!
@fredygump5578
@fredygump5578 4 жыл бұрын
I would have traveled to Africa...if I had known they had a conveyor belt! People like to talk about "culture", food, scenery, and silly things like that, but why didn't anyone tell me they had a conveyor belt?
@TheTimTraveller
@TheTimTraveller 4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@brandonjames7522
@brandonjames7522 4 жыл бұрын
Now you know, book that ticket
@michaelball4683
@michaelball4683 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonjames7522 Do they serve refreshments?
@SpiritmanProductions
@SpiritmanProductions Жыл бұрын
@@michaelball4683 The tea and coffee making facilities leave a little to be desired, I believe. ☕
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 Жыл бұрын
not just a conveyor belt. a huge system of belts.
@Ben-eo5vd
@Ben-eo5vd 4 жыл бұрын
Every time with your videos I think "no, this is finally the one that is too niche" but they're always great! The effort you go to make them the right level of informative as well as entertaining is clear, and very much appreciated.
@TheTimTraveller
@TheTimTraveller 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, cheers Ben, I'm sure we'll go over the edge eventually, but thank you for sticking with me so far :D
@dontspikemydrink9382
@dontspikemydrink9382 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTimTraveller Could you add closed captions for the deaf/hearing impaired. I
@TheAuntieBa
@TheAuntieBa 4 жыл бұрын
Must explore more from TimTraveller.
@LifesaverM
@LifesaverM 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more.
@walterclements7968
@walterclements7968 4 жыл бұрын
@@dontspikemydrink9382 tbf the automatically generated subs are quite good on this channel!
@deathdoor
@deathdoor 4 жыл бұрын
This is Rare Earth, but less depressing and funnier.
@kevinp.h8655
@kevinp.h8655 4 жыл бұрын
Panino Manino Lighter tone to be precise
@Squirrelanditsnutz
@Squirrelanditsnutz 4 жыл бұрын
Rare earth mixed with Jay Foreman. Also Rare Earth is more philosophical than it is depressing.
@josephlucatorto4772
@josephlucatorto4772 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Rare Earth would've said something like "the souls of a billion Sahrawis were transported on this conveyor"
@thefrub
@thefrub 4 жыл бұрын
Why do Rare Earth fans have to comment in every comment section involving travel, Rare Earth is so forced and corny
@Squirrelanditsnutz
@Squirrelanditsnutz 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor Medkit “boohoo, people are talking about their interests”. Sorry kiddo, but not everyone is you and some of them even want to talk about stuff that interest them.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 4 жыл бұрын
Me: What would be so great about this area that a 3 way war started over it... Tim “...70% of the planet’s phosphate reserves.” Me: ohhh... that’s why.
@TheTimTraveller
@TheTimTraveller 4 жыл бұрын
Pedantry Corner: the 70% figure is for Morocco, not just for the disputed area. The 3 million tonnes produced at Bou Craa accounts for about 10% of Morocco's yearly production, the rest comes from undisputed Moroccan territory, as far as I understand. But even at this lower figure your point still stands of course.
@logoseven3365
@logoseven3365 4 жыл бұрын
Joe R M This war was over bird poop: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Pacific
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 3 жыл бұрын
An area must not be "great" for people there to have opinions on how they want to be governed.
@tamaran1
@tamaran1 3 жыл бұрын
I lived there for 6 years when I was a child and some brothers were born in Aaiun. I have to say that Spain abruptly abandoned the territory (as it was in Ecuatorial Guinea earlier) and the future King Juan Carlos (Gen. Franco was dying) left the power to Marocco, under pressure from the 'Green March' promoted by the dictator monarch Hassan II, as well as the concerned pressure from the USA (as usual). The construction of the kilometer port for the discharge of phosphates was just completed with a daily rental cost of the construction platform of 1,000,000 pts (about € 6,000 at the sixties). The main item in dispute in this land as nearly any other is the coastal area, where fishing and shellfish wealth and even potential oil resources are obviously present. So Marocco gets more access to the Ocean, blocking possible exit to the Atlantic from Algeria and dangerously close to Spanish territorial waters (Canary Archipelago). Big deal.
@lois3356
@lois3356 3 жыл бұрын
theres even more political reasons behind it, specially from algeria, that finances and supports the Sawhari independence, surely not for the most idyllic reasons, if Sawhari gets its independence, then Algeria will claim access to the Atlantic ocean, be able to export the huge ore reserves they have without being controlled in Gibraltar or Suez.
@adamapples499
@adamapples499 4 жыл бұрын
When you reallllly don't want to build a train in Factario
@Legendendear
@Legendendear 4 жыл бұрын
Yep xD I know that. and sometimes using an Train isnt feasable
@BaileyChap
@BaileyChap 4 жыл бұрын
@@Legendendear Isn't feasible? Name one condition that railways (In some form or another) can't overcome?
@Legendendear
@Legendendear 4 жыл бұрын
@@BaileyChap short Distance Space ok I guess feasible was the wrong word.
@atomicspartan131
@atomicspartan131 3 жыл бұрын
Legendendear youre probably thinking “impractical”
@SerVahnt
@SerVahnt 3 жыл бұрын
This world has been corrupted and infiltrated by evil. The white caucasian race has benefited from the ideologies that have been fed to the masses, making the white man appear superior before the world. Their education systems run the world.
@bikerchrisukk
@bikerchrisukk 4 жыл бұрын
If you get a comment from the ISS saying, "hey Tim, we can see it"...you have officially made it. (and well done for the video, research and visiting the place)
@TheGreatSteve
@TheGreatSteve 4 жыл бұрын
If you get a comment from ISIS saying, "hey Tim, we can see it"...you have officially made it.
@apcolleen
@apcolleen 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe one of his viewers has a few degrees of Kevin Bacon relation with someone who can talk to someone on the ISS.
@bikerchrisukk
@bikerchrisukk 4 жыл бұрын
@@apcolleen Quite possibly.
@eljanrimsa5843
@eljanrimsa5843 4 жыл бұрын
@@apcolleen Or someone willing to pretend he is on the ISS.
@starlinguk
@starlinguk 4 жыл бұрын
I've just asked them.
@kaltenstein7718
@kaltenstein7718 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most interesting Borderdisputes in the world, but as always we are not here to see- wait a second...
@57thorns
@57thorns 4 жыл бұрын
The previously pictured border disputes between Germany, Belgium, Luxemburg and the Netherlands have been settled, at least for now. What remains is just tourist attractions.
@2Storyz
@2Storyz 4 жыл бұрын
The flatness of earth
@Quintinohthree
@Quintinohthree 4 жыл бұрын
@@57thorns A border dispute remains between the Netherlands and Germany, and it's without a doubt the most peaceful and non-confrontational border dispute in the world.
@millomweb
@millomweb 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a border dispute, it's more an ownership dispute. It's mine, I saw it first.
@hafid3941
@hafid3941 3 жыл бұрын
​@@millomweb As a Moroccan, the Sahara has always belong to our territory, once you know (in history) that the kingdom was founded 788 ! From then to now, we form one nation. Even some part of east land and in deep south land was belonged to some dynastie of Morocco.
@westieclo
@westieclo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim for travelling to the far corners of the Earth in the name of pendantry. It brings joy to my heart that there's other people in the world that cares so much about seemingly so little.
@Jacob-gu3in
@Jacob-gu3in 4 жыл бұрын
5:35 I cannot put into words how wonderful of a touch that whistling was
@whophd
@whophd 4 жыл бұрын
Also I demand to know which other theme tunes were used Some BBC stuff and dramas no doubt
@EcceJack
@EcceJack 4 жыл бұрын
Listening to the wind.. of chaaaaaaange! 😄
@jk9554
@jk9554 4 жыл бұрын
♪♫ just step outside the plant, down the sahara, listening to the wind of change. footsteps in the sand, the belt will never end, listening to the wind, of change...
@berberbyheart
@berberbyheart 3 жыл бұрын
I'm truly impressed by your ability to talk about such a complex and touchy matter without... how to say that... let's say failing and offending everyone. Like also the fact that you bring this forgotten piece of information to people who weren't expecting this. Great work. Thanks for this!
@CorentinHarbelot
@CorentinHarbelot 4 жыл бұрын
Your french is brilliant. 👍
@OliverUnderTheMoon
@OliverUnderTheMoon 4 жыл бұрын
From the volume I thought there was a translator sitting in the back...
@Nynke_K
@Nynke_K 4 жыл бұрын
Tim has a degree in French and it shows 👌
@justinwalker5274
@justinwalker5274 4 жыл бұрын
I was very impressed. He doesn't even sound like an Englishman speaking french.
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 4 жыл бұрын
It was very simple French, such that even an Englishman could speak it. Seriously.
@CorentinHarbelot
@CorentinHarbelot 4 жыл бұрын
@@sunnyjim1355 I'm french, I can say he's fluent.
@-fuk57
@-fuk57 3 жыл бұрын
I had once worked at a sugar company that had the steepest and longest incline (conveyer) belt in North America. It broke down all the time.
@annando
@annando 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how you are telling the whole story around the conveyor belt - which is in fact much more interesting than the belt. And I also totally appreciate your style. Keep on doing such a good work.
@ClarinoI
@ClarinoI 3 жыл бұрын
I love how as soon as you said "Okay, we're gonna need to talk about maps" and I though: "Map men, map men, map map map men men men" the Map Men tune began playing! Great minds think alike Tim.
@cola98765
@cola98765 4 жыл бұрын
0:38 "we are gonna need to talk about maps" **Map Men theme plays in me head** EDIT: ok... I just realized it wasn't just in my head.
@unlink1649
@unlink1649 4 жыл бұрын
Do they know each other?
@cola98765
@cola98765 4 жыл бұрын
Probably... but more likely Tim just enjoy Map Men as we do, and border deputes like that were on MM before.
@iaw7406
@iaw7406 3 жыл бұрын
@@unlink1649 yes
@davidkastelan3206
@davidkastelan3206 4 жыл бұрын
Your video quality has taken a massive leap forward. Content quality fantastic as always. Thanks Tim!
@McRocket
@McRocket 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you handled this mess of a situation VERY well. BTW - loved the video and the conveyor belt.
@Robot-yl3vg
@Robot-yl3vg 2 жыл бұрын
yo
@accomify
@accomify 4 жыл бұрын
Another fantastically fascinating video. And love the Men Behaving Badly and Panorama interludes!
@K-o-R
@K-o-R 4 жыл бұрын
"Describe the history of Africa in 4 words." "knock knock it's Europe"
@theoneandonlyAeth
@theoneandonlyAeth 4 жыл бұрын
That goes for most of the planet from the 16th century until the 1940's after which America and the USSR took over the job of bossing everybody around for profit.
@2312micha
@2312micha 4 жыл бұрын
Technically that are 5 words.
@Toropetskii
@Toropetskii 4 жыл бұрын
Because Africa barely did anything without European help. They used to sell each other into slavery, now they sell their resources.
@kaosinc
@kaosinc 4 жыл бұрын
Now Europe is hearing "Knock knock it's Africa!"
@NickPwnsUTube
@NickPwnsUTube 4 жыл бұрын
*whispers* they never got Ethiopia.....
@user-hz9ch5mx7o
@user-hz9ch5mx7o 4 жыл бұрын
5:34 Desert winds of change.
@xXParzivalXx
@xXParzivalXx 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, you can't sneak that one by us xD
@jeroenstrompf5064
@jeroenstrompf5064 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your humility - Again a wonderful video!
@tinrobot4479
@tinrobot4479 4 жыл бұрын
Good to have you back tim :)
@DJAdams
@DJAdams 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite of your videos so far, wonderful script and humour. Thanks!
@francistaylor5097
@francistaylor5097 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite feature of your videos is the musical accompaniments. Beautifully played and always amusing. The Wind of Change whistle in this episode was great too.
@freedomforever6718
@freedomforever6718 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how well you convey your humor. And because of you I learned something new today. Thanks.
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 4 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to discuss the origin of the phospate, usually the droppings from seabirds, why it is so far inland, and the international problems of the phosphate shortage.
@bozaiwarrior
@bozaiwarrior Жыл бұрын
If you never had it discussed and its now 3 years later, Here in Florida we have large deposits of phosphate and most are from ancient sea bed deposits. "In the Mines" the do and have in past found many fossils usually a lot of sharks teeth like at Four corners Mine.
@susie154
@susie154 3 жыл бұрын
Your commentary is always as enjoyable as learning new things from you!
@A.I.rchist
@A.I.rchist 4 жыл бұрын
You know, when you said trouble, I was totally expecting you to go into the problems the belt had lol. Thanks for the video Tim! I always love how you actually go to the places you talk about!
@skyfeelan
@skyfeelan 2 жыл бұрын
yup, just like Tom Scott, they literally spend money just to make a few minutes of video lol (not complaining, I love short video), much respect
@DeFausti
@DeFausti 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you make subjects that seem kinda silly at first glance so fascinating. Also your French is impeccable!
@lord_scrubington
@lord_scrubington 4 жыл бұрын
Phosphate factory owner *plays factorio* *Let's build a HUGE conveyor belt!*
@nishitsoni3297
@nishitsoni3297 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is so underrated ! I love your videos!
@andrewsaunders307
@andrewsaunders307 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always! Happy New Year!
@safoinful
@safoinful 4 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed earlier after I saw the netherlands highway on sea video, and now you were in my hometown 👌👌👌 Tops to you man for not arguing politics in the video. Hope you had a good/great time in my city and you are more than welcome anytime.
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, real life factorio!
@buzztea420
@buzztea420 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, Thanks for your work! I love your Videos. Always very interesting.
@AndrewMartinIsHere
@AndrewMartinIsHere 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for conveying this so well.
@Fruchtpudding
@Fruchtpudding 4 жыл бұрын
I've always been interested in this (internationally) almost forgotten dispute but the conveyor belt is new to me. Awesome vid! Are you planning to do more videos from there? Something about the giant moroccan border wall would be amazing (if you can even get close to it).
@mesaescritorio3290
@mesaescritorio3290 2 жыл бұрын
It is technically still Spain actually, well not de facto but de jure
@jackuzi8252
@jackuzi8252 3 жыл бұрын
As a point of information, it *IS* possible to visit the Sahrawi side. But you have to go in the other way, through Algeria--fly to the city of Tindouf, where the Sahrawi government offices are located, then drive in.
@uziTGC
@uziTGC 4 жыл бұрын
Your best video by far mate!!! Keep them coming!!!
@raymondcasey5747
@raymondcasey5747 4 жыл бұрын
Finished my binge viewing at last. Looking forward to the next instalment.
@Jajdjejwi28
@Jajdjejwi28 4 жыл бұрын
love the simple yet effective animations
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 4 жыл бұрын
Soooooo, do we get Any actual details about the conveyor belt itself?
@bjfincher773
@bjfincher773 4 жыл бұрын
What is there to know? It's a 98km system of conveyor belts used to transport mined phosphate...
@heartland96a
@heartland96a 4 жыл бұрын
I agree details would be nice , how fast does it run , how much material does it hold , how much material does it move in a day , I guess it's still being used but not the time you were there .
@trueriver1950
@trueriver1950 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. We learnt that it's quite long.
@starlinguk
@starlinguk 4 жыл бұрын
The conveyor belt can move 2,000 tons of phosphate per hour, but I don't know if that's before or after the part that's blown off.
@thomasbondra6108
@thomasbondra6108 4 жыл бұрын
For just belt maintenance purposes, it'd probably be steel cable belt. Most overland belt systems usually are. I assume it's also high abrasion resistant rubber on the outside for both the phosphate itself and the sand being kicked up around it. It'd be brutalizing the cover rubber if not. The metal over top isn't there solely for containment of the phosphate, it also protects the belt from sun damage which can dry rot the rubber exterior. The rollers look similar to the ones used in coal mines, but the bearings are covered to keep the sand out.
@olipito
@olipito 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so fresh. Thank you for your efforts.
@ayansharma8281
@ayansharma8281 4 жыл бұрын
I am simply in love with your content
@queeny5613
@queeny5613 4 жыл бұрын
you are a great conveyer of obscure information about interesting places
@gordslater
@gordslater 4 жыл бұрын
yeah - he's a belter
@donverit_ass5959
@donverit_ass5959 Жыл бұрын
Bigup to your ability to share subjects linked to human complexity; with tact humour and the right distance making no one feeling offended . It’s well known that human being are more confortable when facing complexity than when dealing with love peace and forgiveness ;) peace and happiness to you all. May everyone focus on what can make people closer than some minor things which can bring to oppositions and so on . 🤙🧘‍♀️♥️
@michaelmacdonell4834
@michaelmacdonell4834 4 жыл бұрын
I find your video explanations of the world surprising, succinct, and singularly inspiring. Thank you.
@richardbearden7889
@richardbearden7889 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for publishing this story.
@eoghan7650
@eoghan7650 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Panorama theme music at 3:20.
@rodgwr
@rodgwr 3 жыл бұрын
Factorio players: "First time?"
@plusfastvn
@plusfastvn 4 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot today watching this video, mainly about borders and border conflicts, and a little bit about conveyor belts. Still a great video!
@ebbydebby8130
@ebbydebby8130 4 жыл бұрын
always love these videos
@yodaskoda117
@yodaskoda117 4 жыл бұрын
That conveyer belt makes me think of Factorio.
@Selphie
@Selphie 4 жыл бұрын
Now I'm reminded of the song Spanish Sahara
@cady7944
@cady7944 4 жыл бұрын
Life is strange
@nunyabidniz2868
@nunyabidniz2868 4 жыл бұрын
@Wolfgang Kleinschmit I thought that was Tunisia? [Does a quick check] Got it, Algeria. My bad...
@Nilguiri
@Nilguiri 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you're not thinking of Spanish Harlem?
@Nilguiri
@Nilguiri 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you're not thinking of Spanish Harlem?
@caseyrevoir
@caseyrevoir 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work sir!
@mattr7274
@mattr7274 4 жыл бұрын
Discovering your channel has been the highlight of my day
@TheTimTraveller
@TheTimTraveller 4 жыл бұрын
Reading your comment has been the highlight of mine! Cheers Matt, and welcome to this particular little corner of the internet
@firesurfer
@firesurfer 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheTimTraveller email sent to the space station. :)
@Eylrid
@Eylrid 4 жыл бұрын
In the words of Yakko Warner: "The Spanish Sahara is GONE!"
@mrclonmkes2762
@mrclonmkes2762 3 жыл бұрын
The sahara is Moroccan 🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦
@edsondias8511
@edsondias8511 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, Tim, excelente documentário sobre as características sócio-econômicas de uma região pouco conhecida pela maioria de nós Sul Americanos.
@michaelball4683
@michaelball4683 2 жыл бұрын
¡Es una región poco conocida por la mayoría de la gente!
@acme181169
@acme181169 4 жыл бұрын
Love your work
@andreibeliaev1537
@andreibeliaev1537 3 жыл бұрын
one of your best !
@soundslave
@soundslave 4 жыл бұрын
Tim and Tom Scott travel the world, only to make a 5 minute video about their destinations.
@insanejughead
@insanejughead 4 жыл бұрын
Statistically, at some point in the future they are going to bump into one another, film a video about the same thing, and release it at the same time, without even making effort to "collab". It'll just be wonderful.
@beringstraitrailway
@beringstraitrailway 3 жыл бұрын
Are they related?
@samueldevulder
@samueldevulder 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean he is Tim Scott, the hidden/evil/whatever brother of Tom ?
@Adson_von_Melk
@Adson_von_Melk 4 жыл бұрын
It was not that Spain just handed Western Sahara to Morocco and Mauritania when they asked for it. Spain was going to hold a referendum of independence in W.Sahara, in accordance with UN resolutions, when Morocco just invaded the territory, using civilians (the so-called Green March). Spain had two choices: to start a war with Morocco or just leave. It chose the last option.
@orange42
@orange42 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah video seemed a bit haphazard with the euro insults and bizarre York accent covering an upper class.
@pw70
@pw70 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there is a history video on that topic, go there.
@Adson_von_Melk
@Adson_von_Melk 4 жыл бұрын
@@pw70 next time I will solicit your personal advice before daring to write any comment on KZbin, Your Highness.
@freewal
@freewal 4 жыл бұрын
Kingdom of Morocco just took back its territory, end of story. Just look at a map before spanish colonization, this territory was NEVER independant in the whole story of the Humanity. Since the 9th century, it was under moroccan control until the end of the 19th century, when Spain attacked a Morocco in bad shape economically. Sahrawis always gave allegiance to the Moroccan crown. By the way UN never talked about a referundum in 1975... but only self-determination after the International Court of Justice decision which recognized very old et continuons link between this region and Morocco. For all post-colonial conflicts, the referundum was used only 3 times with mixed results. Morocco was always OK with the self determination by negotiations but not with referundum because it was just impossible to organize : who can vote when families are splitted in both sides, the same tribe live. By the way the other side is under a terrorist organization, a mafia.
@Adson_von_Melk
@Adson_von_Melk 4 жыл бұрын
@@freewal I look at a 1885 map and see something that totally contradicts what you're saying. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/African_map_1885.jpg
@thiemokellner1893
@thiemokellner1893 2 жыл бұрын
Love your style, brilliant humour!
@TheYamesh
@TheYamesh 4 жыл бұрын
In awe of both the video and the choice of soundtrack...
@namenamename390
@namenamename390 4 жыл бұрын
I hate the phrase "one of the few man made objects viewable from space" You can see a lot of man made stuff from space. For example, our cities blasting light into space at night. Also, the most cliché object attached with this statement, the great Wall of China, is not visible from space. Sure, it's long, but only a few meters across. You can try your best, you can't identify the wall from space. It also doesn't help that there are rivers nearby that look very similar to the wall from way up there.
@bravodefeated9193
@bravodefeated9193 4 жыл бұрын
at this point anything can be seen through satellite which is technically in space
@waytosacramento3843
@waytosacramento3843 4 жыл бұрын
And it also doesn’t help that the map of China is shown offset on Google maps due to Chinese restrictions....
@yondie491
@yondie491 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there has to be a pretty danged clear set of parameters, starting with -Daytime Only -Such-n-such meters of height Take this conveyor, for example... you can NOT see it from 70km up. You can, however, very clearly see it from 8km up. It all depends. I definitely don't mind having that conversation, but I *ONLY* have it with parameters, cuz it's stupid otherwise. What parameters can YOU think of? :)
@namenamename390
@namenamename390 4 жыл бұрын
@@yondie491 my parameters: - I don't count satellite images, like Google maps. A high res camera with insane optical zoom on a satellite kinda defeats the point of "visible from space". I'm talking about, for example, looking out the window of the ISS. - going with that, I don't think you should rule out night time completely. Artificial light is man made, and a quite important invention. I can see why others would not want to count it, though. - space is arbitrarily defined as 100km above the earth, but I'm going with that. That's all I have off the top of my head, and it's midnight here, so I won't bother to think of more lol
@yondie491
@yondie491 4 жыл бұрын
@@namenamename390 1)Well most of us can't make it to space, so Google Maps is a tolerable stand-in. Just keep your height set at the appropriate level and, presuming you're viewing it on a 1080p screen, the viewable resolution should be an acceptable stand-in. I have had the amazing opportunity to ask a actual astronaut about it, and she said that if she had 20/20 vision (hers is better) she thinks Google Earth is a tolerable stand-in. Note: I'd take a low shuttle orbit in addition to ISS, so anything between 200-245 miles / 320km-410km as acceptable. 2)I only rule out artificial light cuz it's way too obvious. It counts, sure, but, in theory, we're talking about size. Cities-at-night are more about contiguous size, not singular size... if that makes sense. But pragmatic point being "yes, everyone knows city lights and major roads can be seen at night, if you don't know that you're either a child, in which case you rock for asking this and this attitude should be nurtured and cherished, as should childrens' tendency wanting to learn should always be treated* , or an adult who should go study more, and studying more is always a good thing" 3)I'd accept 100km as a technically acceptable parameter, but 100km is a whole different ballgame than 350-400km. Either way, I *DO* find it an interesting conversation... with the right people of course. *Sorry if that sentence was hard-to-read, I thought "I should go back and expand upon that, cuz kids are AWESOME, and whenever kids want to learn that's even MORE awesomererer... so I should emphasize that... and I went back and added that and I am too lazy to proofread the sentence, I figure you got my point.
@webkluk
@webkluk 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, however (according to my opinion) it missed some basic info about the conveyor belt such as: Who runs the belt now? Is it still operational (it looked kinda rusty)? How fast does it move the phosphate? etc... I know I can google it myself, but it kinda defeats the purpose of this video for me. Some more footage of the belt would also be nice :)
@chrisjames5254
@chrisjames5254 3 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video
@markschwartz5614
@markschwartz5614 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Tim!
@hamishoneill7478
@hamishoneill7478 4 жыл бұрын
You do a great job of dealing with complicated issues in a balanced and respectful way Tim - your next stop for your travel diary should be the Middle East 👍 (I heard Iraq is great this time of year :)
@meteorplum
@meteorplum 4 жыл бұрын
I’d hoped to have a funny comment, but I can only say that this was a belter of a video.
@mr2octavio
@mr2octavio 4 жыл бұрын
You're like my second hand tom Scott. Subscribed to you, hope you get to 100k soon!
@landmanland
@landmanland 4 жыл бұрын
You convey(er)ed the history quite nicely.
@MASSspec1990
@MASSspec1990 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear you describe a lot of historical events.
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 4 жыл бұрын
2:08 Don't worry, Tim, you don't have an accent which suggests you arrived there in the 1800s! 3:20 "Panorama" theme music
@lowermichigan4437
@lowermichigan4437 4 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. Thanks for bringing it to my attention
@briocheoleary5043
@briocheoleary5043 4 жыл бұрын
I think that this is the most delicious geographical geek video ever.. thankyou... even jay foreman will be impressed by this 👍🌝
@baguskusumaloka
@baguskusumaloka 4 жыл бұрын
i just impress with your opening. you say Assalamualaikum with good accent and you had very good accent with dutch, spanish, and other language. Just how? Are you language teacher or what?
@baguskusumaloka
@baguskusumaloka 4 жыл бұрын
and i really like your ending piano play. please release full version of it..
@Rahjhh5
@Rahjhh5 4 жыл бұрын
now that tim is going to dangerous places, he needs his own alinchik.
@whoshotdk
@whoshotdk 4 жыл бұрын
Or babushka :P
@bcubed72
@bcubed72 4 жыл бұрын
He needs his own alien chick? Hey, it worked for Captain Kirk!
@POTThaesslich
@POTThaesslich 4 жыл бұрын
He also needs to use „soviet“ more often
@whoshotdk
@whoshotdk 4 жыл бұрын
@@bcubed72 Uh-uh, "Alinchic". Search Bald & Bankrupt on YT and cancel the rest of your day :P
@steamfire
@steamfire 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job Tim!!
@Rodejong
@Rodejong Жыл бұрын
It is amazing what I learn from my couch, following an eager knowledge seaking and conveying Britt. I really love this!
@BFDT-4
@BFDT-4 4 жыл бұрын
You showed us a non-working conveyor belt. Tom Scott would never do such a thing! I am going to stop typing now because of that. Uuffff. Oh, and Happy New Year... ;)
@christianh2581
@christianh2581 4 жыл бұрын
While Tom Scott does similar stuff, he is nowhere near as funny 😉
@BFDT-4
@BFDT-4 4 жыл бұрын
@@christianh2581 - similar Of course I am teasing. Both Tim and Tom are just as informative and funny in their own ways. I picked on Tom Scott because often he shows things that work very well, and it came to me to do the faux complaint here of the non-working conveyor belt as a tease, and I needed a comparison, and Tom was the first to be recalled owing to the single letter "i" and "o" change. :)
@deeser
@deeser 4 жыл бұрын
Way to start the other WW3 Tim! :D
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 4 жыл бұрын
surprised he even made it back,not hanging in a town square......
@abdelhiho
@abdelhiho 2 жыл бұрын
Man your sense of humour is just GOLD ! Greetings from Rabat , Morocco
@Gokun12498
@Gokun12498 3 жыл бұрын
the wind of change whistle is just a top notch touch i didn't notice on the first viewing
@TheJourneyAhead
@TheJourneyAhead 3 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to film the belt? Every time I stopped there to take a picture, an angry security guard came and sent me away.
@carlosgaspar8447
@carlosgaspar8447 3 жыл бұрын
seems the trump administration recognized the area as Moroccon. www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/11/us-recognised-moroccos-claim-to-western-sahara-now-what
@omineol9897
@omineol9897 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlosgaspar8447 as well as 60 country in the world so what's your point
@crackwitz
@crackwitz 4 жыл бұрын
2:03 2:03 2:03 2:03 2:03
@skriptchazonline1321
@skriptchazonline1321 4 жыл бұрын
You videos are always a great source of entertainment and knowledge so tyvm for another great video The Tim Traveler
@kraken-sx2ys
@kraken-sx2ys 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!! :)
@dontspikemydrink9382
@dontspikemydrink9382 4 жыл бұрын
Please add closed captions
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 4 жыл бұрын
No need. Tim's English can be understood perfectly well.
@dontspikemydrink9382
@dontspikemydrink9382 4 жыл бұрын
@@rosiefay7283 yes, there is a need. Please shut up
@rae-el-gee
@rae-el-gee 4 жыл бұрын
@@rosiefay7283 unless you're deaf...
@dontspikemydrink9382
@dontspikemydrink9382 4 жыл бұрын
@@rae-el-gee or, like me, english is a second language
@funkjoker70
@funkjoker70 4 жыл бұрын
Did you meet with "Bald and Bankrupt"? 😁
@CallieMasters5000
@CallieMasters5000 4 жыл бұрын
The conveyer wasn't running, so Bald couldn't ride it for free to meet him. Just wait until it starts up!
@rohannock
@rohannock 4 жыл бұрын
Very good one !
@dlbstl
@dlbstl 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardmbarker that sounds like B & B's kind of place.
@joge3031
@joge3031 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardmbarker the border isn't too bad if you know where the minefields roughly are and who to bribe
@asadansari7183
@asadansari7183 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for information and video. I really enjoyed watching it. A A from UK.
@ScottMyersOfTheEarth
@ScottMyersOfTheEarth 2 жыл бұрын
that is quite interesting! Thank you!
@triemond9961
@triemond9961 4 жыл бұрын
that desert is mine!
@fartingfury
@fartingfury 4 жыл бұрын
And it is also A mine 🙂
@gordslater
@gordslater 4 жыл бұрын
it's also mined, in places
@Lupiscanis2001
@Lupiscanis2001 4 жыл бұрын
The satire comment killed me. Interesting video, thanks :)
@napster7825
@napster7825 4 жыл бұрын
You should receive an award for tackling such a confusing story.
@letsseeeuropewithme5312
@letsseeeuropewithme5312 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video ❤️
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