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@phizc8 ай бұрын
Placing your ads I the middle of a sentence is not a great move. 👎
@packardroadsta8 ай бұрын
MEGAPROJECT: Human Genome Project
@KarlChilders-bt3hf8 ай бұрын
The a-10 is intended for ground support after air superiority has been ascertained which the US always does first. Russia rarely if ever gains air supremacy. The a-10 is in no way intended for a2a combat. For the sake of hypothetical discussion though, growling sidewinder did a few simulated a2a between the two on his channel and The a-10 won all or nearly all the encounters with the frog foot .
@321-Gone8 ай бұрын
I like this MP v MP format.
@smokejaguarsix77572 ай бұрын
Hold on. The A10 was sent against Iraqi armored Divisions. Those Divisions had heavy anti-air capability. The Frogfoot has generally not fought in such conditions even against Iran. Russian SU25s avoid major land formations because they would be shot down. The A10 was sent into the thick of them. A10s flew right through Bagdad, some of the most heavily defended skies on the planet ever and most made it home. You didnt even mention that. The SU25 has never been used under those circumstances. Also, the A10 flew many sorties doing CAS for US ground troops. The Frogfoot is not used in that manner. It shows up, drops ordnance then runs. It doesnt stick around. The A10 loiters taking ground fire while providing CAS for ground troops. These planes are not used the same way so comparing them is just stupid. If you used the SU25 the same way it would be easy to compare. The reason the Russians dont use it for CAS or Armor hunting is because the SU25 is not good at either missions. Also, Ukraine wasnt offered A10s and F16s. It was offered either A10s or F16s and they requested F16s. They have SU25s and most importantly, they can produce and acquire munitions for SU25s. Being uncertain as to continued aid packages from the US, Ukraine declined the A10 since they cant maintain or arm it. They did however say it was the A10 was a better plane than the SU25. Ukraine doesnt do CAS and Russian tank convoys are too small to bother with sending a plane to stop them so they have little use for an A10 outside of strike missions. Since they already have the SU25 and armament and maintenance packages for the SU25 they dont have a need for the A10 as much as F16. You didnt even mention that, seems disingenuous.
@daiakunin8 ай бұрын
Let's take this debate to where it belongs: the war thunder forums. I expect to see classified blueprints for both of these aircraft on the war thunder forums in less than a week.
@benrockefeller63348 ай бұрын
Funny, but for the record Alex Hollings researched the supposed leaks and was able to prove that none of them were actually leaking classified documents. He was able to find every single piece of information from the leaks on other websites, many in even more complete forms. The reason for them being called "leaks" were that the specific people in question were not personally allowed to post the information. (That is, they were not personally allowed to disseminate the info in the way they tried to, even if the info wasn't classified. )
@ace_trace_22378 ай бұрын
Not much about the A-10 is classified aside from the secure speech, IFF, and EW systems, which is mostly just frequencies
@MoA-Reload...7 ай бұрын
They're to busy waiting for modern Naval to be added so they can go ham with Type 45 and Arleigh Burke specs
@DoomViper8 ай бұрын
Match-ups sounds like a great idea. Also I've never heard of a frogfoot flying home on 1 engine, 1 wing, and a pair of brass ovaries at the stick!!
@steur56938 ай бұрын
I have, in Ukraine
@ulfasplund35148 ай бұрын
@@steur5693cool, who and when?
@guilhermevitorio2738 ай бұрын
But I've also never heard an unbiased A-10 story
@FOH458 ай бұрын
Ukraine
@steur56938 ай бұрын
@@ulfasplund3514 I need to find the footage
@davidhetzman58218 ай бұрын
To be honest two anti tank/personnel jets pitted against each other in a scenario that they were not designed for it would be to likely to result in mutual destruction/ draw
@rattledroar24268 ай бұрын
Probably not wrong, still would be cool to see a mock match up though one day.
@Ob1sdarkside8 ай бұрын
@growlingsidewinder says different
@zwojack72858 ай бұрын
Explain to me how the A-10 is anti tank.
@Yeet420698 ай бұрын
Depends on if they have air to air missiles equipped and if they can flare each other's missiles or not. If they're out of missiles and alive, the frogfoot will just energy trap the a10 and kill it. Not much you can do with a weaker engine even if you can turn better. But scenario's like those don't happen.
@Ob1sdarkside8 ай бұрын
Pilot skills and training will play a big role. Managing energy, dictating the fight to your aircraft strengths, one circle or two circle.
@Pyratemime8 ай бұрын
Such a fun idea provided it doesn't only focus on military equipment since there are lots of channels that do that specifically already.
@dmacpher8 ай бұрын
This comment section is going to end up very balanced and cordial 😂
@LuckyDogGaming8 ай бұрын
No one gives a shit about that Soviet trashcan with wings. Lol see
@ulfasplund35148 ай бұрын
😂
@rossh23867 ай бұрын
Screw Russia they don’t know anything about brrrt
@R2Manny7 ай бұрын
😂😂
@NismoXero6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@travishenry55818 ай бұрын
I truly love and appreciate how unbiased this analysis and review was. Thanks for sharing this 😊🙏🏾
@AskAScreenwriter8 ай бұрын
One other aspect to compare (When possible) is cost of operations/maintenance, including ordnance. One may be better, but far more expensive to operate.
@a.t._hall8278 ай бұрын
Loved this style of video Simon. Would definitely enjoy seeing more of them.
@Baldevi8 ай бұрын
This was great, I loved it lots. I'd like to see more of these Vehicle VS Vehicle [Planes, cars, tanks, guns, etc] in the future.
@MikeU1288 ай бұрын
One of the last rounds of upgrades for the A-10 included a head-mounted AR display, which improved SA even more compared to the HUD.
@rnp4978 ай бұрын
I think they are both good planes for their role. They both win in some areas and loss in others
@Militavia8 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJfOgmOlZ66SbJI
@RiffeLivingLife8 ай бұрын
Match ups is a great idea and I all for it! Can't wait to see all the head to heads yall can come up with. Maybe next do M1Abrams vs the T90?
@devendoffing70048 ай бұрын
Dude, T-90’s have been getting taken out by T-64’s. How do you think it’ll fair against a modern Abrams?😂
@pierluigiadreani21598 ай бұрын
@@devendoffing7004 And Russians recently destroyed a Leopard 2a6 with a T72, stupid argument. Probably the last iteration of the Abrams has the edge due to electronics and systems, but as crude platform I would prefer the t90 due to its smaller dimensions and reliability. The Abrams is anything but wunderwaffe, Blacktail has been roasting the platform for the better part of 13 years with well documented sources.
@asabovesobelow41808 ай бұрын
That would be a really interesting video
@TheoAnon8 ай бұрын
@@pierluigiadreani2159damn i'd hate to be in a tank that regularly competes in turret toss competitions because it's autoloader is just primed to pop and cook off. At least the abrams has blow out panels and wet ready racks. That said the crew isn't surviving a very angry, high velocity lawn dart that penetrates, if the spall doesn't kill you, the flash heating will from the sheer kinetic energy transfer at the point of penetration superheating the space. Apfsds rounds are literally the most dangerous modern round because of this fact. They literally microwave the occupants
@Shoelessjoe788 ай бұрын
@@pierluigiadreani2159Probably... You have no idea what you're talking about. Abrams definitely has an advantage in armor, mobility, and firepower. Nothing is invincible, but it's not a contest. Even Russia doesn't debate this whixh is why you're trying a whole new platform. You'd rather be in an Abrams if your life came to it and so would I.
@FlukeyM8 ай бұрын
Love this idea. I would be very happy to see more match ups
@vlamm6768 ай бұрын
Need more match-ups for sure! Amazing idea!
@fistpunder8 ай бұрын
I started watching Simon Whistler on VisualPolitik EN and found him to be a great narrator and quite entertaining. I did not expect to enjoy all his other KZbin works as well, but here I am. Great Videos Simon and I wish you many more years of success.
@KB-gq7ou8 ай бұрын
One of the best informative KZbinrs
@davidhiatt14868 ай бұрын
Match-ups are a great idea. Old and new! Terrific idea and great starter planes!
@shaider19828 ай бұрын
Su25 actually looks a bit like the A-9: the competitor to the A-X program which the A10 won. A10 was said to be more survivable due to the placement of the engines. Though politics was said to be a factor: the A10's maker, Republic, was not expected to survive if it lost the A10 while Northrup (later Northrup Grumman) did. Republican however is now defunct and the A10 is now being taken care by Boeing.
@vonmoofles67028 ай бұрын
Loving this new Match up Idea. Keep it going my man!
@agenda51198 ай бұрын
If this is done properly it's an amazing concept absolutely loved this video 🔥👏
@CoCoNutShovel8 ай бұрын
This is the most unbiased comparison commentary of military aircrafts on KZbin. Great Job Simon ✌️✌️
@matthewcataldo11068 ай бұрын
The biggest difference is their respective branches. One understands that ground forces need close air support. The other thinks it can win wars with stealth fighters and bombers. If we didn’t have the Key West agreement and other restrictions, the Warthog would be an Army asset.
@Mortablunt7 ай бұрын
To really piss off the air supremacy crowd, let’s take a quick look at American war performances since the introduction of airpower. WW1: W WW2: W Korea: D Vietnam: L DS: W Afghanistan: L Iraq:L 3:1:3 Even if you pad it with smaller conflicts like the Granada and Nicaragua interventions, you still end up with failing to achieve victory about half the time.
@casematecardinal6 ай бұрын
Like the bronco before it. Gone too soon
@andrezejobuch45278 ай бұрын
Yet again Simon another cracking and inciteful video. Have a lot of interest in your channel so very much look forward to your videos
@patrickmullen2378 ай бұрын
Match ups are great keep them coming
@user-cq4pk2sx8k8 ай бұрын
Great video, not the result I expected but definitely one that I’ve harbored over the years. I think mash-ups are great please keep making them.(idea for an episode Patriot vs S-3/400 series AD weapons)
@benrockefeller63348 ай бұрын
I think they should try to only do matchups that are actually up for debate. I don't think anyone seriously believes that a top of the line Patriot is going to lose to an S-400. Maybe an S-500 (big maybe there), but not to an antique. 😂😁😄
@ashscott60688 ай бұрын
@@benrockefeller6334 S-500 doesn't really exist until we see it actually doing something. If it existed, It would have been deployed to stop ruZZian bases in Crimea going boom. If I remember correctly, the head of the company was jailed for lying about the capabilities of the S-400. I mean a lie he told his government, not the ones his government then tell the world. :D It's deffo not much of an argument, when we are currently regularly seeing Patriots intercepting large coordinated missile attacks, at the same time we're seeing S-400 systems being taken out by a single missile or drone.
@voidtempering87008 ай бұрын
@@benrockefeller6334 List S-400 has a larger range and kill radius, the Patriot is designed with other parameters. The S-400 and even the S-300 have far more confirmed shoot downs than any Patriot system.
@benrockefeller63348 ай бұрын
@@voidtempering8700 Neither of those are really relevant to how good the systems are. The S-400 can see further, but it can't see very well at those ranges when compared to the Patriot. The Patriot having fewer kills is obvious since it hasn't seen much use except in Iraq and Afghanistan, neither of which had air forces that were capable of attacking US forces. The S-400 meanwhile has seen service in practically every post-soviet conflict, typically on both sides. The chances it's had to work, and therefore fail, are far more numerous than the Patriot.
@Militavia8 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJfOgmOlZ66SbJI
@nicholassmith79848 ай бұрын
I'd be very interested to see a more direct comparison between the Typhoon, the Gripen, and the Rafale, perhaps also contrasted with the F-35 for added context.
@angryguncat8 ай бұрын
This was cool, i'd love to see more match ups!
@mrdddeeezzzweldor50398 ай бұрын
Yes on the Matchup question! It's always good how your guys dig up the dirt and of course - the famed Whistler-livery makes it a 'must have'!
@Michael_OBrian8 ай бұрын
Whichever one is closer when CAS is needed!
@reggiep758 ай бұрын
*THIS!!!!!* as there are too many meatbeaters bruising their genitals over the A-10.
@ahseaton83538 ай бұрын
A probably apocryphal anecdote I heard from an AFROTC buddy about the A-10 that sums up its versatility and tenacity of its pilots. During a wargame, an F-15 was lining up on an A-10 for an easy kill. The A-10 wasn't going to go down easy. Its pilot hit the airbrakes and the F-15 overshot. Then the A-10 hit the F-15 in the belly with a half second burst with its main brrrt gun. The F-15 pilot never lived it down and the A-10 added an F-15 silhouette to the side of his cockpit.
@MrJoncovert8 ай бұрын
To whom it may concern at FactBoy HQ, I definitely enjoyed this format! The side by side style presentation is a nice chance to learn a bit about opposing systems. Having premium, I can’t speak for the add placement and of quantity but the one critique I can give is make them longer. I’ve watched your videos about the A-10 before so I know the information should be easily accessible to whoever writes the script. That being said thank you FactBoy. I have you in my ear spouting facts and going off on random tangents pretty much all day every day at work.
@MrLewis5558 ай бұрын
This is an interesting series idea some suggestions for future competitions Eurofighter Typhoon Vs Dassault Rafale - An idea from a recent video of yours on the Rafale F22 Raptor Vs YF23 Black Widow
@Tenchigumi8 ай бұрын
In DCS, the Frogfoot is comically outmatched by the A-10 in a dogfight. Even if the Frogfoot is quicker and more "maneuverable" on paper, it tends to stall out more on slow, tight turns (something that the A-10 can excel at), which means in BFM it'll easily get out-rated and shot down. Neither plane was meant to dogfight, but the A-10 is surprisingly more apt at it, simply because it can go so damn slow without stalling, something that can even catch true dogfighters off guard (never forget that an A-10 scored simulated kills on both an F-16 and F-22). Even if the Frogfoot is slightly faster, it's definitely not fast enough to pull away without taking a Fox-2 for its troubles (all the flares in the world won't save you if you're exposing your six).
@Zarrar28028 ай бұрын
Hint: East vs West
@brentbartley68388 ай бұрын
And the A-10 will have an easier time putting rounds on the Frogfoot since its gun points straight forward. Frogfoot gun mounted at a slight downward angle so it doesn't have to have as steep a dive to strafe ground targets but that means it has to pull way more lead (AoA thus bleeding speed) to get rounds on a turning A-10. And even if the A-10 is flying straight and level the SU-25 would have to nose up to point the gun.
@brentbartley68388 ай бұрын
In reality a dogfight would come down to pilot skill.
@jetcitykitty8 ай бұрын
Im happy someone else mentioned DCS because I watch Growling Sidewinder on KZbin and he does matchups like this all the time. I immediately thought of him when I saw the title of this video I actually thought it was one of his until I saw that it was one of Simon's LOL It does come down to pilot skill, often.
@usonumabeach3008 ай бұрын
@@Zarrar2802DCS is a Russian made game...
@carmenmb948 ай бұрын
We need to consider another factor: pilot training integration. It's never completely about the machine, it's the pilot's ability to exploit its strengths and compensate for its weaknesses.
@DrBruceWayne4238 ай бұрын
Hey Simon and the whole team at Meghan projects and all your other channels, I want to say please let’s see more megaproject Matchups and of course, thank you for all your Contant on all of your channels. Great job to ALL OF YOU
@mohammedsaysrashid35878 ай бұрын
It was an informative and wonderful comparison narrative about A-10 warthog & SU-25 frogfoot..A-10 more advanced through detection and damage of enemy electronics.thank you for sharing
@DoodNoodle8 ай бұрын
Keep these going. These types of videos align so closely with war thunder(who has been a sponsor before) that you could even add some gameplay of the vehicles covered. It's awesome playing some of these vehicles then coming to your channels to learn about them.
@jeremyfoy7978 ай бұрын
Wow!!! Great job of comparing two fantastic aircraft. This should be considered for a new episode at least a few hundred times more.
@breakall255 ай бұрын
Great idea keep the match ups coming!
@kriscerosaurus8 ай бұрын
I was not expecting the 🎉confetti🎉 at the end. lol Keep on keepin' on, Luis.
@byzmack13348 ай бұрын
A major advantage for the warthog you missed is visibility. In a dog fight between the two the poor rearward visibility in the frogfoot could prove disastrous.
@zwojack72858 ай бұрын
What visibility in the A-10? The one where the pilot needs binoculars to identify the targets to shoot at?
@byzmack13348 ай бұрын
The bubble canopy that allows them to se backwards unlike the frogfoot. In a dogfight losing sight on your opponent can be catastrophic.@@zwojack7285
@BigMexicanMan8 ай бұрын
@@zwojack7285it’s elevated pilot position and the design of the canopy grants the pilot way more °s of visibility than the SU-25 is capable of
@jackorta16138 ай бұрын
Indeed its a conflict kf ideologies in the us they make pikots who can decide for them selves and fight using direct visibility while the russian way is to have the pilot be a controll point for a craft which gets orders from mission control and it mostly relies on radar on ground and onboard the plane. More visibility on the a 10 is balanced by more vulnerability and the less visibility on the rook is balanced by a safer pilot
@gunsnrosesforever1008 ай бұрын
5:25 he talks about the canopy and bathtub, he says it gives them almost 360° view in the warthog
@chrisgreener55998 ай бұрын
I like this concept! You could even expand it to cover hypothetical battles, like the Yamato vs the Bismarck, or comparison of the mission capabilities of the V-Bombers and Strategic Air Command.
@matthewfinkenbinder58468 ай бұрын
I would generally agree with you I'd like to see a hypothetical battleship vs battleship breakdown, but Yamato vs Bismarck would be...lopsided. Bismarck was more advanced but Yamato could out range and out punch it. (8x15" vs 9x18.1" main guns respectively). Bismarck was designed as a commerce raider as much as a front line warship where Yamato was purpose built to be the core of a battle line. A more viable matchup would be something like Yamato vs Montana (Yamato vs Iowa has been done many times over) or Bismarck vs Roma. Or actually pitting two interwar ships that were built to fight each other like Nagato vs West Virginia (which itself might have actually happened as part of a line battle had the old US BBs been at Leyte rather than Surigao. I also love your second suggestion.
@HDzombiekiller123458 ай бұрын
Yes mega project match’s ups would be lit do the m1 vs t90
@kuriea5524 ай бұрын
This was a cool video type. Would be neat to see more of them
@pteronoid8 ай бұрын
Correction: A-10 can carry up to 6 Mavericks, because only 2 pylons have the necessary connection ports and can carry a triple rack, but usually A-10 carries only 4 because the ones on the inner side would damage the wheels with the exhaust at launch.
@notsoseriouslen63746 ай бұрын
sry to pick on you here but idk i just looked at it and thought "hey you can mount on a dually 2 tires up front as well" if someones arguing with u that they have an 8 wheeled truck and you only have 6...but u cant can you because it would rub while turning and prolly break a whole host of things....so yea i can hold 8 but only carry 6...this applies to what you said
@pteronoid6 ай бұрын
@@notsoseriouslen6374 no hard feelings, but i just wanted to point out that the research was very bad. the first google search result is claiming that it can carry 10 Mavericks and this is just plain wrong. ask any A-10 pilot and/or engineer and they will confirm how many Mavericks can they fit and how many are usually carry. what i wrote in the comment is not my guess/opinion, this is what A-10 pilots and engineers confirmed on many occasions. the A-10 was designed to carry 6xAGM-65s on triple racks on 2 pylons, after real flight testing they found out that the missile on the inner rack, closest to the main gear, causes some burn damage to the wheel when launched, because the wheel is not fully retracted and protected by a landing gear door.
@Ob1sdarkside8 ай бұрын
These planes only work with air superiority, too vulnerable for the modern battlefield. They were designed for a different era
@ashscott60688 ай бұрын
Well, comparing them to find out which is worse, is no different than comparing them to find out which is better. They're both kinda useless if you're not fighting unarmed tribesmen.
@Potato-pl5cr8 ай бұрын
@@ashscott6068not even close to being true, both are suitable aircraft. All it is is a pissing contest between 2 countries. Neither are going into battle while the airspace is seriously contested unless absolutely necessary, then they would have escorts
@gonzalozarate999226 күн бұрын
hi, just discovered your channel and I'm loving it so far. I would be curious to see a match up F18 vs F16 :)
@mrdddeeezzzweldor50398 ай бұрын
Excellent segment. With all of the hype (and love) over the Warthog and anxiety over the dismissal of it from the US war machine's arsenal, there isn't much said about its (if any) red counterpart. Thanks again for the megateam and Megaprojects to provide such a complete (and controversial) synopsis pitting capabilities of each platform against each other. I do still love the Warthog, having been somewhat associated with it since the mid 70's (USAF) when we kind of grew up together...
@ODGreenZa8 ай бұрын
I just like the brrrrrrrrrttttttttt of the a10. Both are great close air support. Worth mentioning the frogfoot can use diesel as well
@Rattrap0077 ай бұрын
The brrrrrt is an automatic win in my book.
@ignitionfrn22238 ай бұрын
1:15 - Chapter 1 - Introducing the combattants 2:55 - Mid roll ads 3:50 - Back to the video 8:50 - Chapter 2 - Demonstrated abilities 15:40 - Chapter 3 - Expert indicators 18:55 - Chapter 4 - The showdown PS: All of us are set up for more *Mega Match Ups*
@fatalfury668 ай бұрын
Love the format!!
@mitchellbailey70308 ай бұрын
LOVE THE MATCH UP IDEA FOR EPISODES!!!!
@IrishCarney8 ай бұрын
Another Frog foot advantage: there are two-seater trainer versions and also navalized versions (with tail hooks) that can take off and land from aircraft carriers.
@ashscott60688 ай бұрын
That would be useful...if Russia HAD an aircraft carrier. I can't think of any of the customers who bought the SU-25, who might have one, either. I guess those were made to be operated from the Admiral Kuznetsov, which hasn't worked properly since the day it was stolen.
@Potato-pl5cr8 ай бұрын
Having a tail hook doesn't automatically qualify an aircraft suitable for a carrier, there's many other upgrades needed for that, one most important is seriously beefed up landing gear
@IrishCarney8 ай бұрын
@@Potato-pl5cr I didn't say the tail hook was the only thing that made it navalized. My point was that it was not only navalized but that it also had a tail hook so it could use arrestor gear. There are carriers like the British Queen Elizabeth class that don't have arrestors
@arthas6408 ай бұрын
@@ashscott6068yeah being a "naval capable" plane doesn't mean anything when you don't have any really usable aircraft carriers. Also the US has proven before that they can launch planes never meant to take off or land on an aircraft carrier off a carrier. They've had a c-130 land on and take off from a Nimitz before... without a tail hook too!
@ashscott60688 ай бұрын
@@IrishCarney But that's designed to carry F-35B's, so it doesn't need them. Yeah, arrestor gear is a nice-ish compromise, but how many customers of the SU-25 have you heard of ever using arrestor cables anywhere BUT on a carrier? They'd have to be a permanent installation on a runway, and if you have the luxury of that, you have the luxury of making the runway longer.
@Nathan-vt1jz8 ай бұрын
In the A10 vs. SU25, the Apache helicopter wins! 😅 For close air support, drones and helicopters seem like better options. The A10 and SU25 are really vulnerable to AD, including manpads.
@shaider19828 ай бұрын
Helicopters are also vulnerable to MANPADs.
@Idahoguy101578 ай бұрын
The Warthog, Frogfoot, and all helos are vulnerable to air defense systems. Depending on the environment and the enemies capabilities
@Shoelessjoe788 ай бұрын
So are choppers
@BOK-048 ай бұрын
Matchups? Great idea, and yes many more!!!!!!
@tylerray17288 ай бұрын
Love this match-ups idea!
@USJTAC8 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t even be a competition between the two aircraft.
@grapeshot8 ай бұрын
I've seen the A-10 in action love the buzzing sound of that 30 mm cannon.
@DoomViper8 ай бұрын
I love the sound it makes as it dives, unmistakable for any other aircraft.
@stevetafoya62877 ай бұрын
I like this format! Let’s see more of it!
@mildmanneredthinkingman93238 ай бұрын
This fun! More please. Can you make: SU-57 vs. F-22, F-15 EX vs SU-35, Shenyang FC-31 vs F-35, F-16 (curr gen with have glass V), vs MiG-31
@EricMitton8 ай бұрын
These matchups are super fun; please do more! That said, this particular matchup is like comparing bayonets. They both do a similar job and are both brutally effective in the right environment, but they’re both pretty much obsolete against a near-peer in 2023.
@Iamthelolrus8 ай бұрын
Brrrrrrrt wins! Fatality!
@rattledroar24268 ай бұрын
I like the idea of comparison videos.
@piemanfx8 ай бұрын
Note matchup!! But realistically anything you guys do is gold!!!
@angel102ify8 ай бұрын
You forget one cheat code that the A-10 has. A friendly F-22.
@jaythomas32248 ай бұрын
the a10 will never be on the battlefield with a f22
@scottallberry67138 ай бұрын
They are already used together. Not a formation flight, but air superiority role. F22, f16, f15s fly top cover and have already gained control of the air
@fountainvalley1008 ай бұрын
A couple of points. A lot of parts on the A-10 are interchangeable between the left and right sides. A second missing piece of information is cost per flight hour and hours of maintenance per flight hour. One of the reasons the A-10 is often used is it’s lower cost of operation. As to it’s usefulness in the future in contested air that’s what the F-22 is for.
@turtleboy41118 ай бұрын
I like the idea. I'd like to see a match ups between Kenworth trucks vs Freightliner trucks
@adamczechowski6148 ай бұрын
Interesting vid. I did enjoy. More please.
@Levi_Amongst_the_Watchers8 ай бұрын
If I'm on the ground and pinned down and I have the choice to call either aircraft, I'm calling in the A-10 every time hands down.
@benrockefeller63348 ай бұрын
Sure. That's usually only a single sortie, or maybe two, and the A-10 excels in single sortie missions. If you need constant cover for hours on end though, the Su-25 will be more helpful.
@charlyspor75948 ай бұрын
I mean if your fighting rebels and militia that's fine, but if your fighting anyone with any form of air defense or manpads an a10 won't even make it near you
@Levi_Amongst_the_Watchers8 ай бұрын
@@charlyspor7594 That's what I'm talking about. I wouldn't be pinned down by aircraft, generally a combat aircraft would just take out the ground troops they target so yeah, ground troops would be what I'm referring to when I say pinned down.
@jackdenihan53338 ай бұрын
@@charlyspor7594we got these neat system in development, decoy drone carried by hard points on aircraft that drop off trigger the Surface to air missiles and make them waste the missiles and the things aren’t fast to reload. Interesting relatively low cost solution
@jonnybgoode77428 ай бұрын
@@charlyspor7594 combat record proves you wrong already dude...
@bigemugamer8 ай бұрын
Me thinks Simon neglected to mention that ONE of the Frogfoot's 2 engines has over a tonne of armour surrounding it so if both the engines were seriously bombarded with flak or gun fire the armoured engine would still operate and be enough to get the Frogfoot home. surrounding both engines with that same amount of armour would seriously compromise it's overall abilities. It's a serious attack jet but my childhood love of the A10 supersedes the Frogfoots strengths. Nice match up, looking forward to more like... sopwith camel vs folker triplane or the gloster meteor vs Me 262 or or... the mig 24 vs apache helicopters.
@jonathanhatch70338 ай бұрын
You should keep this series going for a while.
@Justin_Saves7 ай бұрын
Great Idea! Awesome episode. P-51 vs Supermarine Spitfire🎉
@TheNewsDepot8 ай бұрын
The A-10 can also take off from pretty much any flat ground. It's high placed engines means it can take off from runways the Su-25 would destroy it's engines on. There is also the intimidation factor. The A-10 shows up flying low and slow in the area of operation and the enemy knows it right away because they can hear it's distinct engines and see it's bulky form in the sky and, if that doesn't bring it's presence to their attention, the BRRRRRT! of the 30mm cannon leaves no doubt. The A-10 has ended many fights just by showing up as the enemy generally has only two options, hide or die.
@ronald31488 ай бұрын
As intended the A-10was a piece off shit. the 30 mm could not penetate al bag off crisp's ( the back off an T 34 red) . luckly the US builds great missles.
@wedgie5028 ай бұрын
must be a Russian fanboy
@wormyboot8 ай бұрын
This is a wonderful start to a wonderful idea.
@Sidewhineder6 ай бұрын
Love the comparison format! BRRRRRRTTT!
@mmarsh19728 ай бұрын
They are not the same aircraft. The A-10 is a dedicated Tank killer the SU-25 is a CAS aircraft. One is designed to kill tanks, the other is flying artillery. So it really depends what the job is
@kempmt18 ай бұрын
A former shipmate and I do believe that the Frogfoot is made similar to the A-9
@AcornElectron8 ай бұрын
But A-10 is one better?
@tintruder2248 ай бұрын
Very similar. USSR must have only had spies at Northrop back then...
@benaguilar17878 ай бұрын
17:41 The section about MANPADS is wrong, the A-10C has a 360 degree infrared launch warning receiver with automatic countermeasure dispensers, so it will detect MANPAD launches, deploy flares, and warn the pilot of the incoming missile’s presence and bearing.
@LordDustinDeWynd8 ай бұрын
Howdy from Temple, Texas, USA! Match-ups are a great idea!
@TheVIdeosOnly8 ай бұрын
Everyone claiming Simon was unbiased about this clearly doesn’t know he’s made like 3 videos dogging the a-10 and calling it overrated. His opinion of it has never been good
@benrockefeller63348 ай бұрын
If you're referring to his "A-10: Worse than you think" video, then you need to realize that it was from a specific perspective of objectivity that placed the practical realities of the A-10 against its public perception. That's still an objective perspective, just not one from a comprehensive perspective. Not to mention that the writer for the two videos isn't even the same. Evan was the writer for this one and George was the writer for the other one.
@jonnybgoode77428 ай бұрын
@@benrockefeller6334 "from a specific perspective of objectivity" yeah nah... objectively the people who "dog" on the a10 generally get things so hilariously wrong it's not even funny. To consider it objective is... well ignorant.
@benrockefeller63348 ай бұрын
@@jonnybgoode7742 Then tell us, what exactly did they get wrong in their videos? What you've said is so vague and broad that you basically said nothing.
@jonnybgoode77428 ай бұрын
@@benrockefeller6334 no I said they're wrong. Theres nothing vague about it. Anyone who knows better would understand how. These guys repeat the same misinformation.
@benrockefeller63348 ай бұрын
@@jonnybgoode7742 That's not an argument, it's an appeal to authority. And you didn't even give an example of who would have the 'correct' information. Everything you've said is just vague statements that they are wrong, without citing anything about how they are wrong.
@abccomando93298 ай бұрын
i seen A-10 thats all i needed
@youtubeaccount4898 ай бұрын
love this idea great video guys
@andrewday32068 ай бұрын
I would LOVE to see a matchup of the A-12 Archangel vs the SR-71 Blackbird
@jaynedavies27578 ай бұрын
they aren't different, just different employers. the archangel was owned and operated by the CIA, the Blackbird was owned and operated by the USAF. also the A12 was used has the prototype for the SR71. so basically they aren't different enough for the show.
@andrewday32068 ай бұрын
@@jaynedavies2757 The A-12 is 5 feet shorter and lighter. It flew 5,000+ feet higher and flew faster than the SR-71. They are related but not the same aircraft.
@jailbotmark13798 ай бұрын
The concept of a dedicated CAS platform is pretty useless now that we have multirole aircract with sufficient loiter time and payload capacity in the age of gen 4++
@scottallberry67138 ай бұрын
Multirole failed the last time we did it. The f4 phantom was also a multiservice, multirole aircraft and resulted in many deaths due to being to generalized to be good and specialized missions. F35s can be taken out by a .22 cal rifle if hit at low level in the right spot. High tech isn't survivable at low level, and seriously lack loiter time.
@denvervandrey28838 ай бұрын
Ah, so in conclusion, the Warthog is a specialist build better for its designed role, but the Frogfoot is a better utility and all round build
@ripvanwinkle20027 ай бұрын
so in conclusion the A-10 has tens of thousands of combat hours where it excels.. and the frogfoot..doesnt.. watchin Ukis take them down with 2nd gen stingers from 20 years ago isnt very impressive..
@shaneeslick8 ай бұрын
G'day Simon & Evan, 🤔Today Megaprojects play Top Trumps I really enjoyed this comparison video & would happily watch more in the future
@dnkgil8 ай бұрын
Yes please!!!! More match ups, loved this
@Pimps-R-us8 ай бұрын
So much wrong information in here ! be warned !
@jeffhutchins7048Ай бұрын
YEP!
@C.Chandler_May8 ай бұрын
A-10 all the way.
@Shoelessjoe788 ай бұрын
I'll Brrrrrrt to to that.
@thefrenchbaguette9198 ай бұрын
In all honesty they are both equal none is really better fine the a-10 has the 30mm but know gun are almost never used it's missile that are the name of the game and both can carry a lot of missile in addition both aircraft are quite vulnerable in contested airspace the a-10 even more due it's poor maneuverability
@joshuasinger83858 ай бұрын
Hopefully there will be more match up videos
@tarekmalaeb82298 ай бұрын
Very informative, thanks
@whytebearconcepts2 ай бұрын
"It's not the plane, it's the pilot" ~ Capt. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell, Top Gun: Maverick. I have yet to see an A-10 pilot crash his aircraft immediately after take off, and Capt. Kim Campbell took a SAM to the tail and flew her A-10 home totally on manual controls.
@devkit08 ай бұрын
YES PLEASE. I have wanted to see a breakdown of this since I was 12.
@thomascomeau29618 ай бұрын
Back in 2003 when I was in Kuwait I seen an A-10 that was based there come back really messed up. It blew my mind as it came back with half the starboard wing missing, part of the port wing gone, and an engine out. As long as the US has air superiority this is an amazing asset to have supporting you. We need a redesign and consider removing the big auto cannon as it can't damage most modern armor
@249346378 ай бұрын
I'm quite surprised to say this, but those Holzkern watches don't look too bad! They've got a decent quality Citizen / Miyota movement which isn't brilliant, but it's reliable, and accurate (enough), and they seem to be quite well designed and finished.
@Jordan-yb7zp8 ай бұрын
Mega projects match ups, shiiiiit sign me up good whistling sir, I'll take as many as you can dish out!
@GregScholfield8 ай бұрын
This was an interesting video. Maybe add a little more history to the background of the “competitors” but otherwise a solid comparison. 10/10 would watch another one.
@johndaubner9738 ай бұрын
I have heard, long time ago, that the SU-25 was the Soviet Union’s (at the time) answer to the A-10, so I can’t wait for this video.
@kuskusdikus60144 ай бұрын
The a-10 has never been deployed in situations where they dont have total air superiority or where the ground defences where not ground to dust already.