The Abandoned Genre of "Ocean Grunge"

[@PadChennington]

What other genres do you want to see me explore on here? let me know!

[@sammytim3520]

Pad Chennington the most mysterious song on the internet?

[@TheJfluffy]

Maybe a dabble in "lowercase music"? or maybe nintendocore/chiptune

[@PadChennington]

oooo I think all those would work... any good examples of lowercase music? don't know too much about the genre but sounds interesting lol

[@TheJfluffy]

@@PadChennington I recommend watching this video by 'This Exists' : "kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXq9dXmInK-hftE" and this playlist: "kzbin.info/aero/PLDgz_mnzmc11v4uLOXGQwzoefC5sDTAFY" I discovered lowercase music from there along with a Watchmojo video that talked about the weirdest music genres. "kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGOzYXtrlpxsbbs" *Spoilers: Vaporwave is in the list as well.* The best way to describe lowercase music is how simple *everyday sounds* can *become songs.*

[@khaiplusdotcom404]

Seapunk!

[@Horus4302]

Regular music fan: "My favourite grunge band is Pearl Jam, and yours?" Pad Chennington: "§E▲ ▓F D▓G§"

[@PadChennington]

w o o f w o o f

[@udyr106]

D O G G O E S W O O F

[@paranoid97]

*_V A P O R W O O F O_*

[@deboozombie23]

This brought me here de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stammton

[@Tables-zm7db]

😂

[@bigboyboris3053]

4/10 It wasn't underwater nirvana

[@darkcarnival1805]

Nirvana sucks.

[@darkcarnival1805]

Nirvana sucks.

[@darkcarnival1805]

Nirvana sucks.

[@bigboyboris3053]

@@darkcarnival1805 u wot mate

[@darkcarnival1805]

@Clique Memes 'udingding ding ur opinion is wrong'. An opinion can't be wrong, it's an opinion. Please don't be one of 'those' people. But on the other hand, thank you for keeping it a bit classy and not resorting to every insult in the book.

[@chipsnegativeharmonyrips7187]

1970: punk 1980: new wave 1990: grunge 2000: ska punk 2012: sea punk 2013: vaporwave 2014: ocean grunge 2020: wet ska

[@PadChennington]

2022 slippery country

[@hensoakira]

@@PadChennington 2023: Pad Wave

[@bm7291]

WaterXcore

[@MyNameHousefly]

2025 Sticky soul

[@theboxcaradventurer1874]

2027: Tidal Techno

[@suncityranger1115]

What if people made some Ocean Grunge after this video.... Jk..... Unless?? 👀

[@alexandriaorcld6365]

Some people still do, I occasionally go on r/oceangrunge, and it's slow, but new things do come out every now and then.

[@suncityranger1115]

@@alexandriaorcld6365 yeah, makes sense, all internet music genres don't want to 'die' so people will always try and 'revive' them if they CAN 'revive' them they will be known as the one who 'revived' it and everyone wants to be popular even in a small environment

[@alexandriaorcld6365]

@@suncityranger1115 It's also just so easy to keep the genre going, since a lot of it is sample based. People keep making it because it's not hard to do, and they like doing it.

[@suncityranger1115]

@@alexandriaorcld6365 yeah! :)

[@mentealienari7293]

@@alexandriaorcld6365 That is amazing to know. Guess i should visit Reddit again.

[@lucidboi5334]

Albums mentioned in video: 1. oceanographer #15 - gorgeous gorgias 2. ~~~Devour~~~ - Pacific Despair 3. Beneath the burning hands of God - POSEIDON IN CHAINS 4. as the earth drinks - metsu 5. through the fog and the driftwood - sea of dogs

[@TABBYMUSIC]

Once again it’s proven that there’s always another genre.

[@spooku245]

More like subgenre

[@lucidlullaby894]

Ocean Grunge: * is forgotten * Pad Chennington: * uploads * “Extinct music genre re-evolves itself back into existence”

[@danielcordero4070]

This subgenre was one of my favorites, Sea of Dogs actually has some really good albums like "Storm Memories" but yeah, At this point the Oceangrunge genre is lost in the vast and endless deeps of the bandcamp ocean.

[@Qce-i6d]

NEXT GENRE: dream thrash/metalgaze

[@skullsouljah2836]

This exists. Listen to deafhaven

[@GoGoTomoko]

yessss

[@GiantArtProductions]

Post metal is pretty much metalgaze tbh

[@hensoakira]

Thrash metal!! METALLICA😈😈👊💀

[@pilchardpliskin9381]

"Metalgaze" is mostly blackgaze

[@anpy_anpt]

there's no consumerism in the ocean :((

[@elkyubi4281]

*Rapture fantasy

[@ikaros4203]

F O O D C H A I N E C O N O M I C S

[@shuggieintwo5063]

congratulations is an underrated album

[@anpy_anpt]

yeah sadly

[@alexg5950]

congratulations

[@xeokym223]

02:37 _"How many songs could have possibly been made about the same thing?"_ I wonder how many songs there are about love? 🤔😙

[@michael--a--sometimes]

Found the comment I was looking for 👍

[@shoeshine00]

I was going to say, theres actually an infinite number of interpretations based on an aesthetic.

[@williamschutz4982]

Great point

[@FernieCanto]

Love is endless, unlike the imagination of "microgenre" Internet artists.

[@elesquimal7551]

Yeah, but there's a big amount of lyrics about live that don't say anything new, use the same punchline and overall talk about love like everyone else

[@mattjackson9859]

3:24 That "brick wall" ☵ thing is actually the I Ching trigram for water

[@aeronneff5779]

came here to comment this too!

[@azuregiant9258]

I’m both terrified and completely in awe of large bodies of deep water. I want to explore it and know it’s secrets.....then at the same time it’s an all consuming monster that would crush me, suffocate me, leave me exposed to who knows what might be lurking in the darkness. I’d love my body to be buried at sea as this would probably be as close as I’m ever willingly going to get.

[@Masked_SVincent]

Bro we need to get like a super powerful camera or somethin to try and capture things.

[@alxxr.486]

I came here to discover a new genre and ended up knowing the name of my phobia.

[@PadChennington]

h a p p y t r a v e l s

[@claymccoy]

The more you know...

[@heavenly2k]

Same.

[@Crocodonk]

I believe Deathklock recorded an album at the bottom of the ocean pre 2014.

[@788two]

I still listen to ocean grunge ò_ó OCEAN GRUNGE IS NOT DEAD

[@illgeteverythingback]

guys let's go swimming

[@PadChennington]

who's got a pool

[@illgeteverythingback]

@@PadChennington pshhh dude, we swimmin' in the sea of grunge. hopefully some of your hot girl fans are comin'.

[@Jorj57]

oit maite we're fucking drowning

[@alicespages7998]

would like to see a vid on witch house

[@PadChennington]

that's a big one I always get requests for too! any album examples you'd recommend?

[@ConvincingPeople]

Pad Chennington Not albums but artists, but I have generally heard good things about Mono Yes Aware and Mourning Star from people who are into the style. And no, I am not typing out those symbols, my lord. There are also edge cases like Pictureplane who are quite interesting.

[@groupsounds4896]

@@PadChennington oOoOO's 2010 s/t, Salem's King Night, and Balam Acab's See Birds are some early witch house essentials and my most listened to releases from that time. Definitely a good place to start.

[@thomasandrewjohnrafferty9616]

Hey Pad, I’d recommend checking check out Sidewalks and Skeletons too, if you’re curious about scoping out Witch House/witch house inspired music

[@sadstatue4]

@@PadChennington White Ring's Black Earth That Made Me and Ritualz untitled 2010 album (sometimes called "CDR") are pretty essential too I think

[@florpflorp8265]

"as the earth drinks" is such a good name for an album

[@djgizmoe]

So glad to see Sea of Dogs on the list. Hope it gets a little more exposure, it made a nice impression.

[@Rafael_Oiticica]

I started watching your videos recently! I like them very much. One thing I noticed you kept saying in this particular video is that the thematic of the genre is too small to keep it growing... When someone have creativity, there is no such thing as "small" or "limited" theme. That's exactly what creativity is meant to be, to transform, to create something new! Maybe the people interested in this genre couldn't produce content like this Sea of Dogs (appareantly, because I didn't listen to it to have an opinion). I'll give this genre a try! Thank you!

[@DerekPower]

Oceangrunge is an example of how when you can have too many limits and barriers, it can stifle the creative output. It's also a demonstration of how ridiculous style fixation can be (and yes, vapour is famous for making fun of it just by making a slew of different tags). But at the same time, one can also take it as a springboard to get into something else. After all, once you know "what the rules are", it gives you a certain licence to break them. And finally, this makes my own case for defining vapour the way I do: art/music built on mood and made with a DIY and DGAF attitude.

[@DerekPower]

I did pick up a copy of metsu's as the earth drinks. Having just listened to this, I would call this a sludgy/metal Explosions in the Sky. It also reminds me a bit of Isis. Hell, their 2002 album Oceanic and 2004 album Panopticon could be "proto-oceangrunge" =D. It also is a reminder of how ... particular metal can be (and in a way, this is the precedent for vapour making their own genre/style tag list). And finally, while it is not vapour in the obvious ways, I would say being included in the oceangrunge essentials would qualify it as such. I know this gets into the issue of community designation and such. But again, I think what's great about the scene is how open it is.

[@hexkwondo]

Why can't nightcore be an abandoned genre

[@PadChennington]

lmao

[@angeleaterstudios1004]

Nightcore is only good for memes. Like the Nightcore version of Rap God.

[@vinapocalypse]

Nightcore? Do you mean ᴺᶦᵍʰᵗᶜᵒʳᵉ?

[@ConvincingPeople]

KiwiComics Because if nightcore weren't invented, someone would have to invent it solely to speed up Dream Theater to make them tolerable, or "The Most Unwanted Song" to make it even more The Peak Of Human Achievement than it already is.

[@trixstermillion2190]

Nightcore does not justify being a musical genre and should not be treated as such. It's just sped up songs.

[@jennydeath6844]

Dude I miss ocean grunge. The aesthetic is prime but the subreddit has been dead for months

[@theretrogamer14]

I didn't know I needed this genre. Thanks for being the true vaporwave valedictorian, keep up the great work!

[@heliosthevaporwaveelf7275]

I remember Wosx talking about this on his brief history of vaporwave video. Thanks for diving into this genre even more.

[@ryanleatigaga7596]

Ocean Grunge is what Zeus the Guitar Lord from SpongeBob plays

[@small-boi]

5:38 I appreciate that you didn't feel the need to put emphasis on that pun

[@trvshbxvt3146]

This was a really great video. I never listened to much ocean grunge, but a few people have compared my music to it so it's interesting to reverse engineer that comparison, though they're thematically very different.

[@PadChennington]

thanks for watching dude! got any links to your music?

[@trvshbxvt3146]

@@PadChennington would love to know what you think about this one, probably my best release so far boguscollective.bandcamp.com/album/it-pours

[@pandasaremellow787]

Sea Punk?

[@codeninja100]

Davon Stephens bring it back

[@TempleOfUtopia]

Thank you so much for talking about ocean grunge, it is one of my favorite genres of music and it makes me so sad that it's dead

[@KevinContreras2013]

Ocean Grunge is cool but I like my music to be a little heavier, like Deep Space Metal

[@Game_Hero]

Here comes Pirate Metal!

[@skullcrusher6]

Lol I made one of the 5 albums featured here, finished it in like 2 days after the thread where someone jokingly came up with concept. My main intention was to get it immortalized in the "essentials" chart I knew someone was going to make. It has some nice stuff in there but too bad I sucked at mixing back then.

[@annieboiy]

Really great channel dude!

[@PadChennington]

Ayyyy thanks Annie!!!

[@simonebertini1813]

Great video, Pad!

[@chilael6892]

Pad: The Abandoned Genre Of "Ocean Grunge" Me, a normie: Come As You Are music video?

[@Stevem]

COnsidering I've spent weeks listening to Eurobeat this is quite the change of pace

[@lightloominous]

Yep, I feel ya. Gotta chill out with some slower tunes sometimes

[@Timecapsule96]

Somewhere Pearl Jam's Oceans is what's playing at the gate entrance of Ocean Grunge

[@Doomer77733]

I loved ocean grunge back in the day. Thanks for this video pad I really miss this genre.

[@joex-mn4we]

He said "no pun intended" one time and then never stopped doing "dive", "surface", "deep", "wave" puns lol. Nice video.

[@PadChennington]

lmaoo thank you Paulo!

[@grandsuburbia4436]

Oh god Pad I’m back in a coma

[@neverloggingout]

LMAOOO

[@PadChennington]

HOW

[@UnwantedSelf]

You know I've been into surf rock lately. Like Phycadelic 60's stuff like The Surfettes

[@ZemanTheMighty]

Same. It's delicious. Listen to a band called Langhorn

[@HunterGreenMusic]

listen to Im in your mind fuzz by King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard

[@alexandriaorcld6365]

Listen to Sea Fuzz, they do Surf Rock oceangrunge.

[@RexcorJ]

Anything by Dick Dale, really, that's my best recommendation. Good stuff!

[@rae.azurea]

Try a band called Psychedelic Porn Crumpets

[@sponsoredbymusic]

I think I heard an old interview with Sea Of Dogs, saying that it was basically a meme with another friend of his, and it just took off randomly, hence the "influence of nu metal" 😂

[@vincentsteel5049]

Thanks for inspiring me Pad! Subbed and all sorts!

[@PadChennington]

thanks Vincent! WELCOME TO THE FAMILY!

[@Miumiu0404]

You're one of my favorite youtube channels now. I hope you cover more musical microgenres like seapunk, chillwave, etc.

[@leoambard3134]

You should do a video linking rap like yung leans early work and vaporwave

[@itsbeon]

Up!

[@prussianowl233]

Agreed

[@IconicMicrowave]

Yung Lean & Sadboys, Bladee & Drain Gang, Bones & Seshollowaterboyz, Oliver Francis, Fijimacintosh, 6 Dogs, early Global Dan. They all give off vaporwave vibes to me and sometimes implement the sound in their music. Lean and Bones/Xavier Wulf/Chris Travis all were super influential on the vaporwave scene in around 2012-2014. They brought in the bucket hats, Arizona Tea, and Fiji water that vaporwave adopted. I listen to cloud rap as much as vaporwave honestly.

[@MnemonicHeadTrip]

I feel like Ocean Grunge is the exact opposite of something like A1 from Chuck Person’s Eccojams. A1 embodies a much brighter ocean feel than any Ocean Grunge song however. Sadly, I can’t find any songs besides A1 that encapsulates the same feeling. I’m almost dedicated enough to making it happen that I’m thinking about making an album myself

[@eduardouribealbarran6415]

Tbh, "Pacific Despair" would make a really cool band name!

[@EclipseColdfire]

I can't stop imagining Layne Staley gurgling water

[@imeggscellent7117]

i guess you could say this style "dried up". interesting concept none the less. always been a fan of water levels in video games, so id like to think this will entertain that nostalgia factor of isolation and remoteness.

[@carry_on_crow_]

Baths' Ocean Death EP could possibly fit this mood

[@Ezekiel_Allium]

Hey, a genre and a few artists I actually listened to when it was alive! Didnt even know what vaporwave was when I first discovered Sea of Dogs

[@exedeath]

Oceangrunge was basically this. At 2010 witchouse beecome very famous between people that use internet to search about music. At 2011 this happened with seapunk. At 2012 vaporwave.... After it people usually tried to create some genre and make it big, making it the genre of the year or whateaver... Some guy without imagination at 4chan, did with it with oceangrunge, he created some albums and kept shilling his idea there. I said he has no imagination, because basically got seapunk, changed the name sea to ocean and changed punk to grunge, the thing is, he dont even know that the punk from seapunk is problably related not to punk rock genre, but for stuff like steampunk, dieselpunk, decopunk, (insert something here) punk. Almost everyone new it was just one or two guys trying to mage it big and almost no one joined the idea and tried to help them.

[@joliejoestar4171]

I love this idea cause I’m actually scared of the ocean atleast to be in it so this seems interesting great vid 😌

[@joshuagonzales8451]

The Melon brought me here and I am loving your content

[@PadChennington]

ayyy! that's awesome, thanks so much! happy to have ya here :)

[@mraaronhd]

Aqua man: “Nobody understands me... except the fish.”

[@EDJRMorpheus95]

Hey, this video is excellent! Did watch the FrankJavCee video on Ocean Grunge earilier. Never got too deep into the genre though. Anyway, you should talk about Nuworld or Witch House. Definitely would like to hear about these genres.

[@the-jinferno]

First thing I wake up to is a new Pad video, gonna be a great day! ❤️

[@1mintyboi]

"aquaticly anxity" is my new bio for tinder

[@irvingforce]

Very inspiring

[@ShaolinLambKiller]

I saw this video about a month ago and I have to thank you for introducing me to see of dogs. And I actually was able to find a copy of the 1st press of the cassette in some random store inventory online. And I started on doing my own ocean grunge and probably be dropping it in a month.

[@bigboomer1013]

Would the underwater levels of donkey Kong country 3 count as ocean grunge? I never heard of the genre but when I think of the ocean and something dark and grungy but also relaxing, I think of that stage. It has a very creepy but relaxing vibe.

[@hydrorobot6610]

I think it can maybe refer to the water levels from the GBA port of the same game

[@deedeekreep9139]

"once existed" ? "Now abandoned" ? Triggered!!!!

[@WildBassfly]

Also I listened to as the earth drinks by metsu and it's literally just a sludge metal album xD

[@Nite0wlz]

Within all that creativity on Bandcamp somewhere the next big genre is brewing.

[@kylehyde215CA]

Ocean man! Take me by the hand, lead me to the land, don't you understand! Ooooocean man... wait this ain't it.

[@PadChennington]

i t c a n b e .

[@timmytatoe4248]

Zhutchka is really good, for those of you who are interested in this genre. It sounds like it was original music, and stands apart from ocean grunge as its own thing, similar to as the earth drinks

[@alivingcoralreef609]

O C E A N M A N Punus: Man, I guess you could say this genre *SUNK* into obscurity I actually like this genre.

[@guessoow]

I don't know if there is that much content, but I would be glad if you could make a video on Climatewave... It's a micro genre that I really enjoy, and I'm not sure if that much people know about it! Anyways, great video as always! Thanks!

[@IrvinEdits]

I just stumbled upon this while looking thru sum 1's music playlist and I'm terrified with what I was looking at, I had to pause. I get intense anxiety and my stomach gets upset thinking about it.

[@eduardoavila646]

*OOOCEAN MAN TAKE ME BY THE HAND*

[@archive6094]

I want all these album covers hanged up and framed somewhere.

[@Alexander-mw1ek]

How to create a new genre: Fill in the blanks 1._________ (Water related noun) 2. ________ (existing genre) 3. Choose wether or not to leave them separate, or to create a portmanteau. Ex: Ocean Grunge, Sea Punk, Vaporwave (double points since wave is water related too). Future predictions: Fjord Pop, Deep Sea House, Creek Country, Glacier Rap

[@WildBassfly]

Why don't you link the music you talk about in the video description?

[@PadChennington]

its there! Night Light Tapes, I use a bunch of different tracks throughout the label. this video specifically features a lot of Pontiac 96.

[@WildBassfly]

@@PadChennington Thanks!

[@DoctorTopper]

The water level from "Donkey Kong Country" for Super Nintendo.

[@hydrorobot6610]

A better example The same song remixed for the Donkey Kong Country 3 GBA port

[@Isis3593]

@@hydrorobot6610 thazzit

[@hydrorobot6610]

@@Isis3593 thought I was the only one who knew lmao

[@asianjesus9813]

you should try making an ocean grunge song for your next album

[@AndyLifeInVideo]

Vape Dad Pad is back once again, baby!! #WhatsCookinWhatsPoppin

[@PadChennington]

and I got wayyy more comin!

[@AndyLifeInVideo]

@@PadChennington - I can't wait!!

[@SlyHikari03]

When I first heard of the term I thought it was grunge music about the ocean.

[@noathalted2145]

Been a long time since I got recommended one of your videos

[@dawgiez3998]

solar sands and chills had a child ( pad i’m kidding i love you so much)

[@assonance9057]

Huh that’s strange I thought ocean grunge was alive. I remember coping a few ocean grunge albums on bizcaz

[@assonance9057]

I think urusala cartridges was one such artist pad

[@alexandriaorcld6365]

It's alive in the sense that it is still being made, but the scene is way smaller now.

[@assonance9057]

Ochre and Charcoal ah

[@assonance9057]

Ochre and Charcoal I thought it was quite active haha! And big honestly.

[@theKabbage]

I still revisit Sea of Dogs time to time, love the atmosphere and universe it creates. It got me through 2020

[@alisterfolson]

Trolled my feed and "oceanwave" caught my eye. Liking your delivery and your site looks interesting, so NEW SUB HERE

[@PadChennington]

ayyy thanks so much CJ! WELCOME TO THE FAMILY

[@thedavyandmazzishow3944]

Im going to go make some oceangrunge now!

[@Error_4x5]

That Sea Of Dogs album is named as the opposite of Through The Fire and the Flames.

[@angeleaterstudios1004]

When I hear the words "Ocean Grunge" I think of Gojira's Flying Whales.

[@solstice_777]

i just found this- i am now an aspiring guitarist who wants to join my band

[@lonelychameleon3595]

I'm drowning in these puns

[@Sarah.Riedel]

"Granite-colored water" is a great visual 👍

[@ronaldowens5025]

The fishing trilogy by Primus is actually ocean grunge from the grunge period.

[@brucifer0]

Wish I was ocean size no one moves you no one try's.

[@_________________________x567]

i feel like that "disconnected from society" guy at the very end of the muisc genre iceberg

[@chibacityblues2003]

Hey since Junkmaker Sounds is shitting down soon I think a video retrospective of it would be great! Since I can’t think of any vaporwave tape label that has such a variety of sounds on it!

[@SPL1NGYDUDE]

The "brick wall" in oceanographer 15 is a talisman from the worlds most ancient divination text, i ching.

[@evysgarden]

great video, found some of the stuff already, but u could someone give me the track used directly in the intro from 0:00?

[@yourbaka-senpai3264]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who knows this genre! I originally discovered it from Frankjavee.

[@felixfoster3983]

The mighty classic pad is back.

[@AJManol]

None of these hold a candle to “One of Our Submarines”. It was written based on an actual military tragedy that killed his Uncle when #ThomasDolby was a child, and the dry, dismissive reporting of it by the British press. HAUNTING. I first appreciated it’s haunting nature when it was used for an unsettling scene in the fairly recent, excellent horror movie “House of the Devil”. His manipulation of groundbreaking new synth instruments and disturbing lyrics perfectly captures the bleakness and enormity of the unfeeling, unrelenting ocean. Lyrics: (*Lyric Notes- The “Winter Boys” denotes the crew shift change in the submarine. Also, I almost drowned as a kid, and “drinking water from a stone” is the PERFECT description of it!). One of our submarines is missing tonight Seems she ran aground on manoeuvres One of our submarines A hungry heart To regulate their breathing One more night The Winter Boys are freezing in their spam tin The Baltic moon Along the northern seaboard And down below The Winter Boys are waiting for the storm Bye-bye empire, empire bye-bye Shallow water - channel and tide And I can trace my history Down one generation to my home In one of our submarines One of our submarines The red lights flicker, sonar weak Air valves hissing open Half her pressure blown away Flounder in the ocean See the Winter Boys Drinking heavy water from a stone Bye-bye empire, empire bye-bye Shallow water - channel and tide Bye-bye empire, empire bye-bye Tired illusion drown in the night And I can trace my history Down one generation to my home In one of our submarines One of our submarines One of our submarines Link to the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iF6snaGbhsuZY9k

[@PadChennington]

got a link to it?

[@AJManol]

Pad Chennington Hey Pad! I edited my comment above to elaborate on my opinion. Let me know what you think?