The absolute INSANITY of Warhammer 40k's Deathstrike Missile

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TacticalTortoise 40k

TacticalTortoise 40k

Күн бұрын

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@richard_n
@richard_n 2 жыл бұрын
I love the changes they made to this in the new codex. While it isn't the most efficient unit, it is a lot of fun and can mess up the opponents strategy.
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 2 жыл бұрын
This, I think, is why the unit is more usable now than before, even if it's not too efficient. Where before, you got a random chance of doing some big damage, now you have very fine control over when you launch. It's less a beatstick, and more a psychological tool. It keeps the opponent on their toes, and forces them to make decisions they would rather not make.
@JohnnyDeLeo1
@JohnnyDeLeo1 2 жыл бұрын
There was a high risk/reward list idea thrown around by AoW. Take three of these, and a ton of sentinels. Get first turn (obviously) and charge this wall of sentinels, that scout move, into your opponents army. Put the markers on your opponents army and say “can you chew through all these sentinels and move out of the way in a single turn?” Then press the big red button.
@nurglematthew
@nurglematthew 2 жыл бұрын
Intellectual humor very funny throughout. Well delivered, man. - I'll be sure to be on the lookout for this unit with these combos at LVO. - Oh. Wait? No? Maybe?! Ooph...
@adammotter
@adammotter 2 жыл бұрын
Always a fan of the deep dives, and the extra lore just adds that much more enrichment especially to learn about factions that aren't my own.
@Sman16
@Sman16 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even play guard but I love the idea of playing against an area of denial style weapon that makes me choose how to deal with the incoming weapon
@WATOKALA
@WATOKALA 2 жыл бұрын
See me as the evil genius with gsc would run these and target models I wrap up or where my opponent can make charge contact with one of my units
@KamenRiderGreed
@KamenRiderGreed 2 жыл бұрын
When an ICBM is one of the scariest attacks, in a universe where you have guns that turn you to glass or open dimensional gateways to suck you into hell.
@alperalyanak9627
@alperalyanak9627 2 ай бұрын
Nothing beats the good ol' classics
@imadequate3376
@imadequate3376 Жыл бұрын
The old death strike model has things I like. Mainly the missile looking more like a cruise missile than a big fat comical rocket.
@bloodraven5533
@bloodraven5533 2 жыл бұрын
I certainly like the changes, however I still think it's rediculous I need to wait 2 turns for a 1 in chance to actually do damage. You roll a 1 on a target and you mean to tel me this mini nuke doesn't hurt it? Yeah screw that noise... I'm still gonna use it tho
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 2 жыл бұрын
Given you can choose the payload after seeing your opponent's list, I'd like to see an examination of what kinds of match-ups make each type more viable.
@lostbutfreesoul
@lostbutfreesoul 2 жыл бұрын
I have not played in a long while but this was one of my favourite Units: Completely useless on the battle-field due to crippling rules, and while it's damage was impressive... it did nothing unique. Overlooked unless you where trying one for a laugh, because anything ese is a better spend for points. Though there is one situation that I am going to try to bring about if I go back into the game... insane sized battle-fields. Being one of the few things able to touch every corner of the map from it's opposite end, they start looking quite tempting. A small number of them at the far end of your line could draw a lot of fire, instead of being pointed at and laughed. For when a orc could wander over and poke it before it got a chance to fire... it is a joke. Must say, having listened to a bit I have to be a little proud in these launchers now: Using them for Area Denial is sweet to my ears, it might just make me give up Tau.
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 2 жыл бұрын
You really should have mentioned the most important interaction these things do have with the army - that being the Pinning Fire vehicle order that reduces its target's movement by 2" in its next turn. That can easily leave the target unit without enough movement to escape the blast radius of an incoming warhead, sometimes even if it advances and rolls poorly. Drop the marker on the center of something with a big footprint (eg a large infantry blob or a vehicle like a Baneblade) or something that's just naturally too slow for its own good (eg meganobz) and pin them and they aren't reliably escaping even from godspears - and if they do, you can just chase them with the marker and try again. Wrapping and trapping a unit in melee is also an obvious combo but tricky to pull off while still getting a favorable trade. Deliberately setting the aiming point near (or on) your own units so an enemy who melees them dies to the deathstrike on your turn is easy but again costs you units, so mak esure they're expendable. And using the aiming markers as soft deep strike denial is also a legit tactic..
@thelonelybolter8245
@thelonelybolter8245 2 жыл бұрын
Trevy, you're always a rocket surgeon in our eyes.
@dominicdwk
@dominicdwk 2 жыл бұрын
I think it has play on player placed terrain also. Blood angels won’t like playing into it. If you place the marker on the far side of objectives or places where the opponent can toe-in their units.
@galling2052
@galling2052 2 жыл бұрын
a very fun army to play against, best shooting in the game, no you can not hide from it. What? You thought you get to play? We have to sell codexes here
@starrius
@starrius 2 жыл бұрын
one thing i can see coming is the missile being selected as part of the list building phase like when adaption for tyranids was changed
@WeOnlyEatSoup
@WeOnlyEatSoup 2 жыл бұрын
I picked one up just because it looked cool glad to see it's useful this time around in the codex
@Infinity_Coda
@Infinity_Coda 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad 40k still has weird units like this in the game.
@rinsgravity2007
@rinsgravity2007 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video and its style! I hope to see more lad!
@acannon2700
@acannon2700 2 жыл бұрын
It seems a good unit to keep melle units from charging your lines, just have the token right on your gunlines, drop the hammer if they get charged 😂 maybe, idk, I'm not a guard guy
@stephenpiper2690
@stephenpiper2690 2 жыл бұрын
Warp rocket likely for anti titan duties, be pretty nifty for getting past void shields and extra thicc armor.
@dominicdwk
@dominicdwk 2 жыл бұрын
Couple this unit with an Officer of the Fleet to disrupt opponents reserved units and things get really piecemeal
@cascadianrangers728
@cascadianrangers728 4 ай бұрын
If you do ever get any really old 40K models remember that they're made with pewter so they're about half lead wash your hands after you mess with them And don't eat any sweet delicious dust that comes off them
@zanmatoshin877
@zanmatoshin877 2 жыл бұрын
I think using godspear to mark out important LoS blocking ruins is probably the best use. Use either to make enemy advance painful or open up important ruins to force enemy out.. dont know if its worth it. But if its the difference between your army gets to shoot or army doesnt get to shoot its prolly worth
@jakekillify
@jakekillify 2 жыл бұрын
I am 100% here for lore breakdowns in your videos, good stuff.
@cavedog1989
@cavedog1989 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing that can combine with is a Trojan support vehicle to get a second missile attack.
@TacticalTortoise
@TacticalTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the Trojan doesn't replace the Deathstrike, since the missile is not treated as a weapon.
@cavedog1989
@cavedog1989 2 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalTortoise whaaaaat damn they probably did think of this combo and not made the "missile" a weapon but an ability.
@funghazi
@funghazi Жыл бұрын
I kind of want one just for the comedy potential.
@cascadianrangers728
@cascadianrangers728 4 ай бұрын
Is that a space shuttle with a shark face?!?
@Nicolas-yd2mw
@Nicolas-yd2mw Жыл бұрын
What's the best army to add this unit as an ally ? I wonder very melee oriented like Black templars and such... or is it pointless ? Denying objectives and playing a mind game seems very powerfull !
@wilshned
@wilshned 28 күн бұрын
I only started playing and playing guard in 10th. I always thought the Deathstike was cool in a goofy kinda way. Just bought one and magnetised it to be a death strike and manticore. Now I'm finding out its rules were way cooler in 9th. I'd gladly pay 20 more points for some different profiles.
@bignickenergy3525
@bignickenergy3525 2 жыл бұрын
Friend of mine has 3. The new missiles have him hyped up something fierce. Hive mind help me
@Azzo114
@Azzo114 2 жыл бұрын
Upvote for babyshark-face. I enjoyed this style of content, god job!
@cascadianrangers728
@cascadianrangers728 4 ай бұрын
Cutting edge ICBMs and SLBM have a MINIMUM range of typically around 2000km, fyi
@jamesloder8652
@jamesloder8652 2 жыл бұрын
Minor inaccuracy-- you did get isn't any way to improve the ballistic skill of the death strike, but you actually can. It has the ARTILLERY keyword which hilariously has no synergy with the actual rocket, but WILL give you a bonus with your hull mounted heavy bolter. Thanks, GW...
@desgildanphi8825
@desgildanphi8825 2 жыл бұрын
Wait can Trojan support vehicle can still be use with the Death strike
@TacticalTortoise
@TacticalTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
Not really; it only restocks any equipped Hunter Killers
@adammoore7520
@adammoore7520 2 жыл бұрын
So insane and over powered it will literally not be fired 99% of games
@lightningcreep
@lightningcreep 2 жыл бұрын
I would run 3 of them and put 3 vortexes on their home objective turn one
@TacticalTortoise
@TacticalTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
Vortexception
@Wes-xk6hl
@Wes-xk6hl 2 жыл бұрын
How does this work with multiple of them? Can they use eachothers markers?
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 2 жыл бұрын
No. Each marker is tied to a specific missile. See at 9:40 and 9:55. Each vehicle puts out its own marker and can only use (or move) that specific one.
@tysonmcvicar3829
@tysonmcvicar3829 2 жыл бұрын
How big is the align target marker exactly?
@TacticalTortoise
@TacticalTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter; all measurements are taken from the center. I imagine most people will use a base or a bead or something
@aarotron2189
@aarotron2189 2 жыл бұрын
Old rules giving it infinite range Leave it at home when you go to play
@SacredGumby
@SacredGumby 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@TacticalTortoise
@TacticalTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@atomique3656
@atomique3656 2 жыл бұрын
160 pts is a joke, even if you hit several squads you will struggle to make your points back
@operator9858
@operator9858 Жыл бұрын
Epic scale is so much cooler, but the modelling junkies could never get with it...
@lonewolfandcub668
@lonewolfandcub668 2 жыл бұрын
We've actually better tech now in lots of ways than the 40k world
@CatharsisChaser
@CatharsisChaser 2 жыл бұрын
16.6% chance to do nothing btw, at least it’s not completely worthless now and has some interesting mind game potential
@TacticalTortoise
@TacticalTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
*to a single unit* You roll for every unit in the explosion
@CatharsisChaser
@CatharsisChaser 2 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalTortoise yep, but if your opponent has 2 high value targets in the blast radius you should buy some lottery tickets after the game. For the points a russ is a better take 9.5/10 times. I will absolutely be bringing at least 1 to big team games though, trolling the entire enemy team seems far too fun to pass up xD
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