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It's common knowledge that the Imperial Army is absolutely massive, but just how massive was it really?
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[@majorkill]

Best argument for why GW needs to review how it deals with numbers - Space Marines make up (approx) only 0.0000002% of the Imperiums army.... To join the top 0.0000002% in lordship go here : establishedtitles.com/MKILL Or to see the Cosplay raw shots go here : www.patreon.com/majorkill

[@utubrGaming]

The general rule I go with is "Games Workshop can't handle numbers... except profit margins."

[@martineunzia2481]

Wait does that mean I can establish a country with my lordship and be called lord

[@the1tigglet]

You like cock and ball torture huh? Mine if I come over? I have great experience in that field! 🙃😈

[@Sollapoke]

I think if there were 20 legions again each with 200,000 astartes and then only used space marines for the role they do best, shock troops. Then the numbers might make a bit more sense. Have marines attack and not protect, use shock assault tactics and not attrition or siege. Then give them pre-horus heresy numbers and it might start to actually work out

[@leadingauctions8440]

We NEED an Eldar Numbers video, since lately since the Great Rift it seems like they changed the Eldar Craftworld from Continent sized ships and populations to a few thousands. It makes no sense how much they have been nerfed fluff-wise as a power.

[@Kemot300]

It's so BIG that during the length of this video hundreds of thousands died and a similar amount was recruited into the army

[@muzanjackson8827]

only hundreds of thousands? Are you insane? The great rift is open, and it is said worlds come in and out of the imperium too fast to know.

[@camostrike4395]

That’s what I love about the astra militarum

[@justinweber4977]

So, a slow fifteen minutes for the Imperium

[@KaiserAfini]

Must have been a slow day.

[@grumpymonk2460]

That’s some scary perspective ngl. Now that’s some grim dark

[@smokey5495]

Majorkill, count how many loving father figures the Primarchs actually have

[@kompatybilijny9348]

Your mother

[@TheDawnTreader1]

don't. that's derivative of like 8 videos already

[@sawyeratkinson]

4

[@62sy]

1, rowboat

[@kellerblair2952]

I mean what about their adoptive parents.

[@jeanpaulantoine1206]

Should do a breakdown on the fleets, probably the most op thing of 40k. How many franchises call 5km ships basic cruisers, and even the most powerful weapons (like that cannon that vaporized the gargant in helsreach) are just scaled down versions of basic naval weaponry.

[@robertnelson9599]

Also their fighters are 150 meters long.

[@human6310]

And those are considered crude replications of their Dark Age of technology counterparts

[@im2randomghgh]

Cruisers are capital ships, nothing basic about them! And the Ordinatus Armageddon was a Nova Cannon - the most powerful ships mounted weapon in the imperium, not scaled down.

[@big_tymerro]

Very simple answer: Forerunners from Halo. Their basic stuff makes dark age of technology look like sticks and stones.

[@dastardlyokami9682]

Forerunners are kinda broken. So is the flood they would wreck in 40k.

[@casketbase7750]

Canonically, Holy Terra’s civilian population is one quadrillion. More than twice the number of soldiers Majorkill came up with here. And that’s just one planet. Those 404 trillion soldiers are busy protecting a LOT of people.

[@im2randomghgh]

Terra's population has been suuuper inconsistent in the lore, though quadrillion makes sense. The Carrion Throne called the population "quadrillions", Space Hulk: Deathwing called in "200 billion" and the old lore had it at "100 trillion". Leave it to 40k to have super inconsistent lore!

[@ranbojd1070]

where is that mentioned? i thought the number was 100 trillion

[@woaddragon]

Well you have that 500 trillion is pretty.much low-ball estimate, in addition, world is have.been known to either mass conscript, or in Terra case in war if the beast, surge their numbers by patriotic zeal. This doesn't even include crusader forces.

[@nohddd8574]

"protecting"

[@RK-cj4oc]

Bruh what? Thats such a dumb number even for 40K

[@benjaminwhite3292]

The only war I will actually give GW is 18,000,000 dead at Vraks. Fighting an siege war for almost 2 decade war with WW1 level casualties over an area the size of Northumbria actually seems to fit

[@Till873]

i think it s still way too low. I would ass 2 more zeroes

[@enzoperennes563]

@@Till873 two zero is way too much a trench can only fit that many krieger

[@yawarapuyurak3271]

my issue would be the corpses. At some point, mountains are made out of them

[@stevensanders6696]

@@yawarapuyurak3271 how exactly do you think corpse starch is made?

[@zhcultivator]

@@yawarapuyurak3271 Xianxia Novel battles be like ''mountains of corpses and rivers of blood'' plus hills of bones or something like that...

[@nobleman9393]

What changes did Guilliman have done to the Codex Astartes?

[@robertnelson9599]

Remove the size limit of scout companies.

[@zeackplayz6377]

He wrote: y'all make me suidlcidal

[@shadowdragon349]

threw that shit in the trash, even he saw how much damage it did for the imperium in the long run

[@arjandosanj6131]

It's all drafts as the momment ,nothing released to the Imperium

[@V.B.Squire]

All 4 comments hidden?

[@ragnarx88]

Logical Fan / Major with actuall Math : Makes sense - here is the Bill Hardliner : These are Rookie Numbers ! You gotta pump those Numbers !

[@spooky7439]

Covering ahzek ahriman would be cool from: A thousand sons fan

[@ListyLobster]

he did in some videos

[@awesommate942]

O no not again

[@sneakybeak4032]

Yeah Ahriman has had some videos already

[@Camouflage2770]

Agree 100%

[@homelessswede9675]

Shut up

[@Channel-23s]

As you’ve said before shit they really need to make the numbers bigger some conflicts are smaller then WW2 combined deaths

[@samswann3727]

Its mental, I read Krieg recently, and whilst it isn't a bad book, the numbers make no sense. It talks about 2-3000 guardsmen laying siege to a hive city infested with orks. Current modern estimates are that to take a large village/small town, even if lightly defended would take 1000 soldiers due to how complex an environment it. Hive cities are meant to be colossal, spanning many miles both up and long. every time I read a number of guardsmen I added 2 0's to the end for my own headcannon lol.

[@PoorManatee6197]

I didnt mind numbers in 40k until I realized the current population on earth is 7 billion, suddenly guardsman regiments, space marine legions during the horus heresy and specially space marine chapters looked stupidly small, like how are 1000 space marines supposed to deal with a planet full of orks, or necrons or whatever?

[@TheSonOfDumb]

@@PoorManatee6197 Surgical strikes on strategically critical targets to disrupt the enemy followed up with a prolonged purging period? Space Marines can operate for a very long period of time without rest and they are very good at killing things. I can see them whittling down a planet full of Orks eventually but Necrons are probably too tough for a purely SM force to deal with alone.

[@PoorManatee6197]

@@TheSonOfDumb we are still talking about 1000 marines vs 7 billion orks, each marine would have to kill 7 million orks with no loses, and im being nice by putting the whole chapter, it would usually be like 3 companies working togeter.

[@leighz1962]

1000 space marines has millions supporting it. They also typically reinforce millions of deployed guardsmen. Likely doing strategic first strike to disorganize enemies or defeat their leadership. Not too big of a stretch to throw them at millions × chapter's 1k.

[@kennym249]

Welp, i'm curious about the amount of abhumans and titans of the imperium Also, nice video and efforts

[@MrFallenone]

Well there would not likely be that many Titans since very few are made anymore if any and most of them fell during the Horus Heresy.

[@kennym249]

@@MrFallenone don't know what to think exacly about your answer, bc gw screw with lore and proportion. But yeah, should be a small bot as you said

[@ChristophelusPulps]

I'd say the vast majority of Imperial Guard regiments are deployed to real warzones, but only the most prestigious are deployed beyond a sector or so away from their home worlds.

[@mcarrowtime7095]

The codex states that regiments are generally drawn because of conflicts within the sector, and anyone who survives gets sent off to other wars as-needed

[@fluffly3606]

@Majorkill, I used similar numbers to yours to calculate that the Traitor Legions at the Siege of Terra outnumbered the defenders by only 1.5 to 1 not including daemons. The prevailing wisdom among at least armchair generals is that in modern Earth warfare you need a 3 to 1 advantage in numbers to reliably overcome a fortified position. It's no wonder they failed to crack the Palace.

[@2SSSR2]

After seeing this number I just remember that there are people out there who argued that US alone could beat the Imperium's invasion of our world. They would drown us in Guardsmen long before Space Marines arrive.

[@ILikeDoom]

Those same people tried to say that the U.S. alone could beat a Doom hell invasion. Mad props to our services, but that's physically impossible. There are more demons in hell than there are bullets on earth. And It seems it's a similar case for the Imperium.

[@nothingnobody1454]

People are delusional. We're not exactly building stc's or iron men yet so I'm pretty sure we'd be fucked. Could we even attempt to stop an exterminatus right now?

[@finn-3976]

@@nothingnobody1454 No.

[@taoisttiger4702]

If the US co operated with China we could probably beat an initial invasion. Depending on how fast we adapt their technology for a fight against the second attack would be the decisive factor. That and how much plot armor either side gets, in most of the in lore cases that the Imperium came up against technological worlds they are usually pretty naive. We could for sure lose but it would most likely be an intergration with us barganing for some level of autonomy and staying a pleasure planet with a tribute of humans that want to kill zeno scum

[@nothingnobody1454]

@@taoisttiger4702 okay except they wiped out interstellar factions of humans who had technology from humanity's peak of scientific advancement. They literally already beat us, 38,000 years of advancement beyond the tech of today. To pretend that current era earth would stand a chance is absurd.

[@jackncokeryan]

Majorkill you're doin great. Keeping 40k interesting. Keep doin the dew

[@casbot71]

If the Imperium upgraded the basic equipment of the average Guardsman, it would have a profound increase in the power of Humanities overall military force, just due to the sheer number of Soldiers. Belisarius Cawl should look into that, now that he's succeeded with the Primaris project.

[@jvbutalid8316]

not worth it, waste of time, and guilliman prolly cannot impose the radical rearmament to all the guardsmen

[@Salted_Fysh]

Infinity big. Because whenever GW needs to they can just magic planets out of thin air to keep the imperium at the steady state of 'going-shit-but-not-quite-yet'.

[@Milo_Vail_Snezhevic18]

Can you make a Video of which traitor Primarch will return loyal again since we got a story of perfect clone of Fulgrim so there is a chance so i want know who would it be?

[@aethertech]

None of them will turn loyal again.

[@martinbaranyi2129]

The perfect clone of Fulgrim is proof the traitor Primarchs can't come back, unfortunately. Primarchs aren't just flesh and bones, their souls are unique powerhouses and carried the virtues of each Son: Vulkan's invincibility as an eternal, Horus's inhuman charisma and strenght, Corax's invisibility, and so on. The reason why Fabius Bile managed to create Fulgrim's perfect clone is because he used his Primarch soul, floating in the warp after his ascension into Daemon Prince. The corruption entirely stripped them of their immortal souls, replaced with pure warp energy, they aren't coming back.

[@blingsing5383]

@@martinbaranyi2129 ​ I don’t know if you read what you wrote but that is exactly what proves that it can be done their “souls” are separate from bodies so if someone can make a perfect vessel for the body then the soul can return That’s why the Big E completely deletes Horus and any trace of him because if any shred of his soul remained then in theory it could return For the record I don’t see them bringing them back as heroes but just because they won’t come back doesn’t mean that they are incapable of it hell the story you just used proves that they can and have😂

[@thenomad47]

@@martinbaranyi2129 If anything Clonegrim is proof that the Primarchs could be brought back much easier thsn initially thought, not that it's impossible. All you need to do is recreate the Primarchs body perfectly, and then coerce the soul back into the body. Remember, the souls were just taken out of the bodies and warp spaghetti was stuffed in, so, as you say, their souls are just freely and randomly floating around in the warp doing nothing, so, just grab the souls, stuff them in a new body, and voila, Loyalist Primarch back in action

[@macshadow1150]

@@martinbaranyi2129 I belive that some can return, like Magnus if his soul, exactly noble part was fused back

[@Robahomusic]

If only GW could count. Their numbers make no sense, as you said.

[@ls_rus4666]

I just add one or two zeros. There are probably less soldiers in Warhammer Lore than we spend money on this hobby anyways.

[@juliusbossman7280]

Please do a video on the Daemons Skarbrand, N'Kari, Ku'gath, or Kairos

[@JustaPonderer]

Keep commenting

[@demonkingofsalvation7519]

i always expected the custodes to constantly increasing more than 10000 even with many dying

[@alpharius8512]

Custodians are akin to Primarchs, it takes significant knowledge, skill, and resources to make them, and a fuck ton of time. While it hasnt been stated, it would seem even the Emperor had trouble making them, and thats why there are only 10k by the time of the heresy. If Emps couldve shat out millions of them he would have. and now hes incapable of.making them, so the difficulty just went even higher now

[@arturzathas499]

they are based on the persian army of the undead. sorry mate but 10k is the max

[@robdeskrd]

The Custodes are not an army they are the body guard of 1 man. There is also a lore issue as it is stated each Custodes was "hand crafted by the emperor" but the emperor has been stuck on the throne so who has been making them for the last 10,000 years?

[@yourairconditioner7474]

@@robdeskrd From what I've heard there's labs in the palace that can make them in very limited quantities, but in all likelihood, it's limited to maybe one every year per lab, so they're mostly busy cycling out retiring custodes.

[@robdeskrd]

@@yourairconditioner7474 Wouldn't it be rad to get the Custodes treatment minus loyalty conditioning in real life?

[@brandoncote5406]

There is still more ants on Earth than soldiers in all the Imperium

[@aron582railways7]

During the devastation of baal, everyone who was able bodied and over the age of 12 was enlisted in the defence of baal prime

[@im2randomghgh]

The number crunching is suuuper questionable and not even slightly reflected by any of the lore and yet I'm here for it 😂 Edit 1: ~12T Guardsman is several orders of magnitude more than they actually have available. The Macharian crusade, noted to be the largest Imperial military effort ever undertaken since the Great Crusade (until Indomitus) had 1Bn and was a huge portion of the Imperium's overall military power. It would be a footnote if that were 1/12,000th of the imperium's might. Also, the Indomitus crusade fleets had ~20 capital ships each and there were ten of them. How many guardsmen do you think they put on each ship??? Especially seeing as they pulled back literally every bit of military force still available to the imperium, even withdrawing them from active engagements. Edit 2: As far as ship numbers, there are a few thousand sectors in the imperium. Being generous, we can use Battlefleet Cadia as an example, which had 24 capital ships, and say there are ~50,000 warships. That would still seem disingenuous though, given that the Indomitus Crusade totaled a little bit more than a thousand ships and again, was scraping the bottom of the Imperium's Barrel.

[@willmosse3684]

I think what you demonstrate here is that GW’s figures do not add up at all, rather than that Majorkill’s number crunching is not represented by any of the lore. It was all based on the lore. What you demonstrate is that different aspects of the lore give you wildly different figures for the number of men under arms.

[@leadingauctions8440]

We NEED an Eldar Numbers video, since lately since the Great Rift it seems like they changed the Eldar Craftworld from Continent sized ships and populations to a few thousands. It makes no sense how much they have been nerfed fluff-wise as a power.

[@silversurfer8818]

In Mortarion: the pale king after the Primarch used a ship as a hammering ram on the main hive city, the closest 2nd largest hive sent their troops, which comprised a few million soldiers (units).

[@AAhmou]

Which should have been a billion instead. But I guess moving a billion soldiers is not the same as keeping them entrenched in a hive city's bulwark.

[@ellis7622]

Majorkill’s great grandfather must’ve been a veteran of the great emu war. Much respect to your pappy bro, those feathered devils are no joke.

[@leighz1962]

His grandpa survived the Drop Bear Site Massacre

[@alpineassault]

One thing's for sure, Guilliman could probably organize a sick party.

[@doom1609]

Please go over the story of Gav the ogryn from the fantastic tetralogy Gav and Bob! I don’t think it’s canon but it’s still an amazing story stretched out my multiple authors. The character development is simple but extremely effective.

[@nicolasgodines1129]

Lemme give you a hard one; could the current setting of Battletech survive a Damocles-sized Crusade? A cool setting for you to learn about and I wanna see your theory on it.

[@58Kinglord]

I don’t see how they could survive. I know far more lore about 40k then Battletech but I just don’t see how they’d survive, mainly due to one thing. Their navy. 40K naval forces are usually setting around the 100+ gigaton range (at high ends were entering into mass scatter planets with naval guns not cyclone torpedos) Battletech navy is POOR compared to the imperiums I don’t think they even hit the gigaton range.

[@ptn-54pattontank89]

In terms of ground combat, the battletech universe would absolutely win with ease, but when it comes to naval ships, battletech gets absolutely stomped to the ground.

[@alotosius]

Now... do the Orks.

[@aunrah02]

The sacrifice of your dementia free years, is greatly appreciated sir

[@mrpdmasta]

Fantastic video, and consider, the orks have more people and 100% of their population fights.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

I cant stand when the writers are off by several zeroes.. if 1 hive has 10s of billions ppl in it then im not impressed when a crusade force has like 3million guard.. there would be billions for sure

[@albertdrevdal4233]

100 billion people makes little sense on a planet much less a city, so the hive Lore is pretty wack too

[@CM-os7ie]

Older lore does usually chalk up a very specific pre-rift number of about 30,000 hive worlds in the Imperium

[@rahadityap2375]

​@@CM-os7ie New lore basically stated 85% Imperium planet have atleast one or two Hive Cities that each contain range from Bilion and Trillion in single hive city

[@alexlast3141]

i'd like to see a video of you doing a video on your opinion on a realistic number of troops for different major battles

[@kloud4035]

where tf is timmy im seriously gettin worried

[@sonofsanguinius176]

"Probably 40 million human soldiers to a single astartes" Yeah and thats what pisses me off, its like most of the time the normal astartes (who are ultra elite super soldiers) die in 1 hit to a normal necron warrior, or just die randomly in the background from a titan shot, or lost a 1v1 with an ork (its fine if the ork is a warboss but normal ones) or other stupid ways to die It takes like decades to create a single Astartes and GW just throws them away like wet tissue after watching porn, its such a waste and heartbreak to listen as they die in dumb ways An ork boy takes about 5 years or so to become a hulking monster on the field and A tyranid warrior only takes a few months to spawn, An astartes takes 20-40 years to make IF THEY HAVE GENESEED OR THE TECH and they are just around the same power level....so like get your power scaling correct GW please.

[@Prockski]

Yo Majorkill if you ever want to do large calculations using normal language you can try use Wolfram Alpha. I tend to use it when I need to quickly get a figure using just normal text language.

[@Channel-23s]

Shit the amount of troops available are akin to having a shit ton of pennies in a bag and using it as a weapon or giant projectiles vs a group of crackheads and the supersoliders are equivalent to Gold bricks in Socks with metal spikes on them

[@theswarmsquad3606]

For guardsman you should also include veteran percentages from the modern world comparison since people don’t retire or get discharged

[@kabuki_kitten7129]

the astarte and guard ratio i would actually say is quite accurate showing that the guard are good but the astartes tackle the really hard tasks and make them look shit but the guard are the ones who are actually doing the most winning

[@TheAnon03]

Are SoB really super soldiers? Did they change the lore on me since I played? They're well equipped but they're not enhanced any more than a regular guardsman AFAIK.

[@jonathanathor117]

Not really. They're not biologically enhanced like astartes or custodes or Grey knights. They just have an exo suit and blind zealous faith.

[@jevvie]

No they aren't in themselves. They're humans decked out with great gear. They do have better training than the average guardsman though and given their faith in the emperor they can randomly become supped up.

[@gerardmontgomery280]

They're enhanced by their armour and have psychic superpowers. Sorry I mean miracles happen because of their faith in the Emperor. They may not be enhanced themselves but their abilities are superior to what a base line human could achieve without SoB training, indoctrination and equipment.

[@Some_Cool_Dude]

They are basically on par with tempestus scions but with better armor and weapons

[@Asraeks]

they are women

[@paulmuller6069]

I always wondered what the other races in 40k thought of the emperor and the primarchs... I thought about it because (i think it was) in "Dark Imperium" one of the Eldar met Girlymann and was disgusted by a comment that Eldrad Ulthran made that the primarchs were in some aspects superior to the eldar Pls make a Video about this

[@mcarrowtime7095]

Idk if this comment came before the video was made, but it exists now

[@all_mighty_nurgle]

Can you do this for chaos and the other factions really enjoy your videos keep up the good work you sexy Australian man and Rest In Peace all the people who died during the emu war

[@human6310]

Thank you. My grandfather sprained his ankle in that war.

[@petey118]

Did forget to add in the Inquisition. Which has its own chapter of space marines aka Grey knights and death watch. Inquisitors, pykers and so on. Do have countless strike teams for there secret order. Being a secret organization, do understand would be hard to count how many there are. But is hard to not count or forget them. Due to they are strong enough to scare anyone in the whole imperium. Also take out entire space marine chapter when they are disobeyed or challenged.

[@EuroUser1]

Presumably, the Imperium employs in the army a much larger percentage of the population than the US does. That's because the Imperium has a more advanced technology and is absolutely focused in military matters.

[@blackjacklover99]

NOTICE! Since you made Seth‘s video about warp entities that aren’t aligned with chaos. I’d like to propose a video idea of my own. About what remains of ‘our’ era and earlier in 40K. That’s something I’ve been interested in for a long time. PS: Please tell me if you see this comment. So I know I don’t have to keep posting this idea in the comments of every video.

[@mrlongli1803]

Great video man. Realy like these videos about stats or feats for things. For exampel different feats and numbers for the imperium of man and the stats and feats of characters like Astartes. Keep up the god videos that these are and the good quality.

[@venkelos6996]

And then we imagine that the Orks, and the Tyranids, probably number similarly, if not more, because they definitely have a smaller percentage of noncombatants. Ick!

[@evanlight2550]

I think I heard that Orks outnumber humanity about 1000 to 1. And not just guardsmen but ALL of humanity!

[@lemonaded2481]

@@evanlight2550 add in the fact that 100% of the Ork population fights, there are no civilian Ork. It's totally believable when it's said the Orks could take over the galaxy if they would just stop killing each other.

[@evanlight2550]

@@lemonaded2481 and that’s why they can’t take over the galaxy, because 90% of the time they’re just killing themselves because their only instinct is to FIGHT. So most of the time they can’t invade worlds because they’re too busy killing one another

[@kris4247]

Majorkill mate if anyone would know it's you Can you do a vid on the theory of the Catan God and Tyranid Connection I saw something a long time ago and it's untouched, if any Chad Lore Lord could get to the bottom of it , it's yourself

[@desperado3236]

I think 500 trillion is still a conservative estimate. I think it would be more like a couple of quadrillion. given that so many planets have like 100s of billions of people and the imperium would have a higher percentage of troops vs civilian since they dont need to worry about supplies as they can get them offworld. Thats the problem with using real world numbers of nations on earth when your talking about an inter-galactic civilisation that doesnt require all its worlds to produce food. Close enough for govt work though i guess.

[@Patterrz]

When you leave school you think the maths homework is done forever, but then you start making 40k videos

[@rh0mbus104]

I would like to see a video about how many STCs the imperium has discovered over its lifespan.

[@eichler721]

Your estimate is not bad but I would say the number of Guardsmen fluctuates between 10-20 Trillion depending on the state of warfare in the Galaxy and the same with PDF forces.

[@Chrivs]

Did Guilliman not say a one point after he return that Space Marines might be a little to low like around 1000 giv or take in each Chapter. And that he wanted to make them a little bigger...? And sometimes with some of the Chapters that got Plot gear and all of that shit. Feel like they can get new Marines really really fast or just have a shit load like in back up... Or are just much bigger and dont tell anybody about it...

[@M3h3ndr3]

But isnt the emperium incredible inefficient? Im not surprised that you get alot when counting PDF's :P

[@MrFallenone]

More like incredibly efficient. Considering how many worlds they manage. Thats a lot of supply lines.

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

@@MrFallenone nah, they almost abandoned a segmentum

[@Licht.von.Stein.]

As a person with a phobia of Birds, whenever people say to me to not be afraid of birds, I like to tell them the story of how veterans of the first world war, whith machinguns and trucks, were technically defeated by flightless birds.

[@separateaccountmabida6767]

On another note, how big is the Warp? (not like the entirety of it, more like all the mentioned parts of the Warp in the Lore mashed together)

[@gutsytoadsage6497]

Video starts at 1:53

[@vaporsouls6752]

One of the few notable regiments that hail from a civilised world is actually the elysian drop troops, with them being an all-volunteer guard army

[@andrewhenson8787]

The scary thing is that the number for the Guard and the Planetary Defense Forces is probably SO much higher. There’s probably going to be a lot more than a couple percent of any planet’s population. The odds are that every single fighting age person not actively helping the war effort is probably enlisted. And the Imperium is still fighting for it’s absolute life

[@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ]

Well... the US isn't too militarized, maybe the US during ww2 would be more accurate Also I DO NOT FOR A SECOND believe that the imperium has only 1 million worlds, with the milky way having between 300Million to 6 Billion earth like worlds

[@isuckatusernames4297]

well, to be fair, during the war in heaven, the daot, the age of strife, the great crusade, the horus heresy... alot of planets where destroyed almost daily. so you know...

[@baseupp12]

Majorkill please give us a video on Perpetuals (how many are still alive and what they are doing currently 40k setting.)

[@canis2020]

It's great how those down under take the Emu war as a badge of pride! Got damn I love your insane country.

[@kamaeq]

Biggest issue you are missing is the HUGE volume of space that stretches the Imperium thin. As for the IG, PDF forces are Conscripts and plain Infantry. Actual IG are mostly Veterans with some Infantry (FNGs) with the percentages varying a bit with losses. Biggest lore vs codex disconnect is that virtually all IG have the equivalent of built in vox casters in every squad with all the benefits.

[@adrienwatson2179]

2k sisters of silence? I guess 2k sisters (In squads of 6 minimum) have the ability to wrangle 1k pskers PER DAY PER DAY That means each squad would have to catch 3 pskers per day. The black ships are also a galaxy wide thing, controlling and removing psykers from planets for service to the astronomicom AND providing psykers to the Scholos for training. Considering there are shoet stories about psykers being captured by Sisters from the galactic fringe (6 months warp travel)... Thr math would put sisters of silence at newrly 100x that number, just to supply the Scholos and astronomicom, LET ALONE their combat duties, like twking down Psyker warlords, joining crusades, supplying defenses for the Emperor Wayyy off

[@musafawundu6718]

Majorkill, I mostly succeed in suspending my disbelief with regards to the number of Space Marines, but occasionally I do not. The writers are extremely stubborn not to have changed things all these years to make their numbers one hundred to a thousand times higher because it takes away from the emphasis of Space Marines bring extremely rare and that most humans would not go their entire lifetimes actually seeing one.

[@HXC060592]

The numbers bumbling from GW is hilarious at times. It says the Rangdan Xenocides was the most destructive war fought during the Crusade until the Heresy and, “thousands of astartes and millions of astra military forces were sent to fight the alien menace” which had me shaking my head at GWs number skills. Like really, the second greatest conflict was on par with WW2 on little old Earth? Okay..

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

So if +/- 500 Trillion is the 'estimated' number of humanity's military, then the over all population of the Imperium of Man fluctuates wildly between 17 -20 Quadrillion 💀☠💀

[@thienngo7252]

I just watched a video about the various galaxy and size of our Milky Way galaxy. Technically there are 20 billions galaxy that we can observe so far, each with Billions of stars. The Milky Way alone have 1-2 billions stars. So the imperium of man having 1 million world is really a spec of dust. If only they made our universe even larger similar to the actual size of Milky Way then we might even have more interesting thing to discover not just some outer galaxy bugs.

[@ailediablo79]

I think there should be 3M-10M space marines not 1M. Add 101k+ ish special soldiers from inquisition. However, i think space marines still could defeat the rest of the Imperium on their own if necessary. I would say realistically they actually makes 1/2 of the fighting power of the Imperium.

[@BrianHall33]

Wait, about 1000 chapters total? Then why have I seen basically everywhere that Cawl and the I crusade ADDED 1000 new chapters? So at minimum 2000 chapters if 1000 was the original estimate

[@samswann3727]

I read Krieg recently, its not a bad book but the numbers are soo off-putting. Modern estimates are that to take even a moderately defended city it would take several thousand men, and if its fortified upwards of 10,000. They sent 2-3000 Guardsmen to retake a hive infested with Orks. A hive defended by walls and weapon emplacements. In ww1 the British took 60,000 casualties in the first day to try and take a town! I just pretended the numbers were in the millions range.

[@jkgf4671]

You are overestimating how well trained Guardsmen are. Just because there are regiments like Cadia, Catachan, Krieg or Valhallan doesn't mean that all guardsmen are that good. These are exceptions. Most of the guardsmen are not well trained at all. They are massively recruited, most of the time against their will. Get's basic of the basics training and are send to fight. Especially now that the great rift has opened. There's a story where huge part of hive city was conscripted because militarum desperately needs men. 50% of the hive city subsector was conscripted by lottery. FIFTY percent. Tell me how well trained that 50% of this subsector is. So no. Most guardsmen are not as good or better than our special forces.

[@jackgriffi7826]

And this isn't even getting into the total population. If that were calculable. My guess is that the total number of Ork's is larger than the Imperiums armed forces, but less than Imperiums total pop.

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

My personal calculations put the total population at 21-76 quadrillion people

[@thecoldcapybara1637]

You should cover the MTG x Warhammer commander decks and secret lairs

[@RobouteGuilliman-M41]

Dude, I've seen ZERO evidence Imperial forces are even on par with first world conventional troops. It doesn't even make sense, in any way, shape or form to compare the Guardsmen to SOF (even Air Farce SOF can't be compared to them).

[@ARC1701A]

When you realize the Death Korps of Krieg is only sending 1% of their men under arms to the Astra Militarum.

[@sanzharkhairov501]

We need Ahzek Ahriman video, majorkill!!!

[@calugareanuvasile372]

Can you make a video abut spaces batles

[@desperado3236]

Im not sure where your getting the idea that all guardsmen are like modern special forces. Special forces are not frontline troops. They are used to carry out specialised tasks like going behind enemy lines to take specific objectives. Most guardsmen regiments are not used like this. Only certain elite specialists. Funnily enough, its the astartes that have the closest role to what the modern special forces do but im sure there are human troops that do this too. I just cant think of any other then handpicked elites from regiments like catachans or gaunts ghosts. Even if you mean they are equivalent in quality, thats still not true as the quality of imperial guard varies from world to world. For every death korp of krieg or valhallan quality regiment, you get like 5x as many sevlar chem dog lower quality regiments that are just used as fodder.

[@tk-6967]

500 trillion troops is a bit low considering that 40k is supposed to be ridiculously horrifying and people are dying all the time or something, but it's decent.

[@rethall2308]

I feel a big pitfall regarding the SoB or Battle Bitches is thinking each Hive as ONE city. Realistically, each Hive District could house one or several independent convents, which skyrockets the number of potential bitches, PLUS bigger HQs.

[@tdab3883]

I kinda disagree in this video, i think the North korean army or the People's Liberation Army would be a better choice for percentages, giving the state of the imperiun being a dictatorship, conscription and having planets with the density of bangladesh, i think they are far far more

[@s.evanhowie1416]

You missed the militia system in the United States, at the state level. Every male 18-45 years of age. Approx 80 million!

[@inquisitormaddox8581]

Space marine capabilities Would be nice How strong are they how strong should our roid boys be it’s very inconsistent Storm wardens and Mentors and other lesser known but unique chapters would also be cool

[@yesterdayschunda1760]

What are your thoughts on the Emperor of man kind causing the men of iron uprising that took down Humanity during the golden age of technology? Seems to make a lot of sense considering how scared he was of humanity at its peak of power because humanity could destroy him without much effort. Calling it now he sat in the shadows causing the downfall of humanity so he could take control. Same guy who didn't tell Magnus about demons i wouldn't put it past him at all.

[@Pickle6432]

The wildest thing ever is that the estimated number of military personel in the Imperium, is still lower than our estimated population of Terra💀💀💀💀

[@stevengrennier4653]

So the answer after all the calculations was basically "Error 404 lol xD"

[@Mikorobyo]

And its nuts that some americans actually believe the US can defeat the IOM in a striaght up slugfest hahahaha muricans

[@bloodangel19]

Lol what? We are talking about a sci fi civ that can shatter planets. Who thinks they can beat that?

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

Yes we can! We will unleash the screaming eagles!!! *Horribly Mutated Bird Abominations screams in agony!*

[@vinz4066]

Americans ☕

[@kalyambamhango4548]

You ain't never fought a Floridian, have you? An entire city of Sly Marbos I tell you. Like an Eversor assassin but worse. Riding Crocs, horses, Chihuahuas. Indeed after we are conquered, the Floridian 1st regiment will be our tax.

[@balloonman257]

I’ve never met anyone who claimed that, not even the most warhammer illiterate people. What kind of retards do you hang about?

[@Uzzgub]

A Interaction for the Interaction God, a Comment for the Comment Throne, for the Almighty Algorithm

[@volcanicknight5594]

Yes the emu war we got our butts kicked but we survived like most Australians do have a wonderful day.

[@michasalamon8315]

The thing with guardsmen varies from world to world. Gaunt’s ghost were literally ex criminals, actual criminals, former PDF troopers, and even hunters, in Catachan Devils novel, thr main protagonist was an administratum clerk that got only 4 months of Training before going to his first combat action, same was in novel 15 hours that started the meme that guardsmen only last 15 hours on battlefield, not to mention Necromunda uses literal gangsters feom Spider clan who they give guns to keep order in lower levels and send them to Space. Dont get me wrong there are many highly trained elite guardmen regiment. But saying that all guardsmen are the best of the best is a little bit of a streach. And that’s not even mentioning penal legions.

[@mcarrowtime7095]

Penal legions are fodder used to complete high attrition tasks, and the criminals and gangsters tend to be the most violent and successful, as the IG will execute a planetary governor if they believe the supplied regiment to be of too low quality.

[@novafox3244]

Hey guys thinking about starting my first table top army. Was just wondering if anyone has any helpful tips for like where to buy stuff, best starter army, stuff like that I appreciate any help :)

[@brutalusgaming8809]

There are sisters of silence on all the black ships so their numbers are much higher then one would think.

[@thatonekriegguardsmen6140]

Can you do a video covering how the other traitor legions that weren’t at the drop site massacre dealt with there loyalist elements

[@kerbalnaut6692]

What would that all look like number wise on a tabletop miniature battle? How long would it take to play such a game on a massive scale? Answer if you dare 🫡

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

More time than a human can live

[@lurkingedge]

SOB numbers are also skewed by their detachments and active to "reserve" ratios. For instance a convent attached to a shrine or cathedral could be 50/50 SOB guard detachment and non militant Sororitas, while a order militant convent will be closer to 95/5 active/non-militant. Additionally, every Imperial Cult shrine worth destroying willl have a minimum SOB squad guarding it at a minimum. A while back I started trying to calculate SOB numbers starting with shrine guard detachments. I hit 150 million and gave up.

[@729060]

With GW you always need to add at LEAST one 0 to the end of any number they give you.

[@withlovefromlightindust591]

Hey Majorkill. Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, The Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Thank you.