"The Acolyte" failing is going to give us "Kenobi" Season Two...

[@BingleBonko]

They had their chance to write a good season of Kenobi. Six episodes. Instead we got stormtroopers getting knocked out with a single tap to the helmet, a princess Leia arc for some reason, a dark sider who wanted to get revenge on the man who ruined her life by joining him and helping him ruin other people's lives, and a kenobi who was just sort of there to be told what to do by everyone else. It is hard to hope anymore.

[@jbug1979]

Obi Wan trying to sneak out Leia while concealing her under a trench coat... 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@mikepatton8691]

Stormtroopers getting knocked out with a single tap to a helmeted head is also in the new game Star Wars Outlaws, so apparently the helmets basically provide zero protection and somehow make it even easier to knock them out, it's canon!😢

[@jkb2016]

@@mikepatton8691 You can barely see in these things!

[@Lilac-and-Gooseberries]

I’m just worried they’ll make things worse if they do a season 2…

[@ramaya007]

They will. What seriously what have you seen to make you think they have learned. I applaud you for holding out hope this long but its becoming delusional. Kennedy is still there...

[@merikano2985]

The only idea for a Kenobi S2 that would work with mainstream audiences would be a whole bunch of Clone Wars flashbacks. So maybe Kenobi is crafting a holocron for Luke to find and the majority of Kenobi S2 are the battle scenes from the Clone Wars similar to what we saw in the animated series. It's not perfect, I think it'd receive the same reception Godfather 3 would have. But if Disney wants a cash grab that's the only idea off the top of my head that might work. Short of creating a Kenobi clone and putting Kenobi's soul into it so that Ewan can partake in the Mandoverse... Fuck I hope Disney doesn't read this.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@merikano2985Or they can bring back Starkiller and make him hunt down Kenobi in Vader’s stead.

[@eds1942]

@@merikano2985. lol. I can just see him recording and acting out a dramatized version of his part in the Clone Wars and the prequels, starring himself, some Jawas, a Twi’lek dancing girl from the local cantina, a temperamental Tuskin and maybe a guest appearance of a former clone trooper.

[@chewy99.]

@@merikano2985 What if it was half Vader and half Kenobi? They never physically meet, but maybe their stories are similar or opposites and we get to see that through their stories in the show, while maybe having dreams with each other and flashbacks to the clone wars that interconnects it all. It doesn’t have to be mostly clone wars flashbacks, less than half.

[@Luks2820]

Can't wait for Obi-Wan to defeat and then spare Vader for the third time.

[@miller42]

and Obi-Wan being a guest in his own show again.

[@Nartanek]

Really despite obi wan doing okay for disney star wars i think this is the show that opened the eyes for so many people on how bad disney is using SW. I'm not sure a second season would do well, at all.

[@merikano2985]

Fourth time. I count him becoming a ghost as a win. If he hadn't Luke wouldn't have snuffed the Death Star.

[@seiaka]

@@Nartanek untrue. I've seen thousands of people praise the Obi-Wan show and swear that there's nothing wrong with it.

[@goldfishprime]

@@seiaka Morty Seinfeld voice, "Thousands?"

[@Salsa_Shark]

Obi-Wan - Season 2: “The Quest for More Money.”

[@Oscar-mh7ez]

Cant wait for Reva still running strong after being kebabbed twice and for lightsabers bouncing off stormtrooper armor.

[@miller42]

Let's not forget that she killed innocent people and got away with it because "she was just misunderstood uwu"

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

While still killing them

[@solidg3legend868]

The definition of insanity is doing the exact something over and over again, expecting different results.

[@Deuteromis]

From what I heard from some people who read the High Republic books the Acolyte really did Venestra a huge disservice. She's completely different in the books as compared to the show. She really was a terrible character that I hated. The way she acted like she was in charge and the fact that not only did she keep secrets from the council, she literally frames a fellow Jedi for the murders of the others.

[@jaieregilmore971]

She is literally one of the worst Jedi in the show which is saying something because all those characters don’t act like Jedi like seriously a Jedi wouldn’t care about political rivals or their image but doing the right thing. Also why the hell are any Jedi would listen to her at all she not with the high council.

[@siiir1322]

Then they say „oh you guys hate everything with women stop being so sexist“ AND THEN THEY PROCEED TO WRITE THE MOST DISLIKABLE FEMALE CHARACTER EVER

[@henrikaugustsson4041]

But Sol did murder them, he was a male, and all men are bad!

[@superomegaprimemk2]

Just goes to show that the so-called story group is a big waste of space if they can't keep their own original canon straight, much less anything else!!

[@saberiandream316]

That's what Lucasfilm does when they take from the books, though, is disrespect the source material. Filoni does this all the time. _All the time._

[@eds1942]

We didn’t even need a Kenobi season 1. Seriously, the guy is literally suppose to be doing nothing but watching over Luke, not running around the galaxy risking his life. And rather than Disney/LucasFilm throwing 100’s of millions into these shows, I’d much rather see them spend even a quarter of that expanding the universe through books and games, and non-Marvel comics.

[@eRobb4]

I cannot overstate my apathy toward this franchise. Watching your videos is my maximum investment in it now.

[@varundattoo9512]

I don't believe there's any doubt in sincerity to any of the Era's, besides the disney era. The disney era is defined by numbers and agendas; not lore, continuity, story, character, context, setting or respect to the George Lucas vision of SW.

[@saberiandream316]

Whereas the EU always had several interesting eras to explore, lol.

[@earthbit.]

Yeah Kenobi still has some life left in him. Disney isn’t done disgracing him yet.

[@miller42]

Oh god that's what we need, another season of "Kenobi" with Obi-Wan as a guest star in his own show as he acts like a creep with Young Leia... The problem with Disney Star Wars is that everything they do is soulless. Even when they make a show about a well-known character they still find a way to ruin it. That said, they should stop trying to make the High Republic a thing, it's a generic made-up era so they don't have to pay royalties to the people who helped build the Old Republic and the EU.

[@trevturp6891]

How was Obi-Wan a creep in The Kenobi Series?

[@MikeSidious]

Glad I don't watch modern Star Wars anymore. Ten years ago the very thought of seeing Ewan and Hayden together in a Star Wars project would have brought a tear to my eye, but hearing this, i just feel dead inside. I can't bear to watch them further desecrate George's characters, so I'm gone! I feel sorry for anyone that "has" to or wants to watch this absolute detritus.

[@5eddie5]

Set 3 years later, Obi-Wan Season Two- Obi Wan sees our Jedi hero travel to Coruscant to battle the Emperor in an epic lightsaber duel to save Luke Skywalker (who gets blinded in the first episode by playing with some power converters) Obi-Wan calls on his old buddies Chewbacca, Captain Rex and Ahsoka to battle Darth Vader on Endor to recover the Sith dagger that reveals the lineage of Darth Vader's children. Only Lando can Help old Ben Kenobi get the proper hyper space routes to win Jabba's favor in helping pull of Obi-Wan's daring raid on Coruscant to rescue Luke from Palpatine's clutches. Only in this thrilling 12 part series. Only on Disney Plus!

[@skorroled1227]

The only way I'd be okay with a second season is if I thought it would involve his training with Qui-Gon and dealt with the more mystical side of the force, maybe Obi-Wan getting back to the roots of what a Jedi should be, but I doubt they'd do a show like that with a headline like Obi-Wan. They'd want to put more action instead of it being a slower paced, inner drama kind of show that would be really interesting and fit Obi-Wan's character arc after season 1.

[@thsxi]

Kenobi was already sort of a story that never needed to happen, but season 2, if something major happens like it did in season 1, I’m pretty sure that’s canon breaking

[@williamsteffey3434]

If you scaled Obi Wan down, and made it about him protecting Luke, having adventures on Tatooine, and learning more about the force…it could good. That’s not “Force is female” enough for Kennedy though, and they’ll screw it up.

[@Thed538dhsk]

But none of that can happen unless they break canon. Luke isn't supposed to really know obi yet, he's just some crazy old guy Luke barely knows exists in a new hope. Obi is supposed to be hidden so he can't do much on Tatooine without drawing attention to himself so he kinda has to just hide. And in a new hope he isn't doing all these new force tricks vs Vader. He literally only learns to become a force ghost, that's it. He could learn to do that but would that be a story that can last 6eps or is that just a page or 2 worth of story in a comic book?

[@jedikfc]

I don’t want anything Star Wars until Kathleen Kennedy is gone and someone who understands Star Wars is in charge.

[@Dante...]

The first season was one of the worst things Disney Star Wars have ever produced. It turned Obi-Wan and Vader into absolute bafoons and made Leia into an annoying brat. It's such a shame that the great talent and enthusiasm of Ewan and Hayden are being wasted on such key jangling garbage.

[@BaoNguyen-bh2rk]

There's nothing that will salvage Star Wars in this generation.

[@saberiandream316]

Hell, kids prefer Marvel and the MCU to Star Wars.

[@fatman80000]

Just a little dig at Disney- Penguin is what the Acolyte wanted to be. 😆

[@kmdreacts]

Obi-Wan was the last straw for me.. Episode one's comedic Mighty Morphin Power Rangers chase through the forest Almost put me off completely but I stuck with it purely for Ewan & Hayden. By the end, I was so pisd, my hate couldn't consume me more and I haven't watched a single Star Wars anything since. I suggest you guys and millions more do the same.

[@achaudhari101]

You left before the actual good show which is stupid.

[@sztefn]

​@@achaudhari101it's reasonable, not stupid. There was literally no reason to think andor would turn out as it did.

[@achaudhari101]

@@sztefn And yet people are hyped for Andor S2.

[@sztefn]

@@achaudhari101 probably because S1 proved Gilroy can cook, the same passionate people are involved and as far as I'm aware Disney is still keeping it's greedy fingers reasonably far from the project. Hype is justified imo

[@jknetwork6211]

Wow replacing trash with garbage? Thanks Disney I can always count on you

[@goodoldbubba6620]

Yeah.

[@achaudhari101]

Obi Wan wasn’t completely garbage.

[@joshuacompton2500]

​@@achaudhari101It was. Obi-wan acts like an idiot throughout the show. The Empire is completely incompetent. Reva's motivations and actions are laughably inconsistent. Kenobi spares Vader again dooming the galaxy many more years of pain and suffering. What portion of the show was good or even okay?

[@achaudhari101]

You can say Vader was the good part of the show and with Kenobi sparring him it was likely to not give Anakin the win out of spite.

[@joshuacompton2500]

@@achaudhari101 Hmmm. Well Vader's main Inquisitor base is a joke. I do lay some blame on him for allowing such a thing. Additionally, he has Kenobi at his mercy in their first encounter and doesnt kill him, and when the second encounter happens he asks Kenobi "did you come here to kill me?" When he was the person following Kenobi to the planet. His actions and dialogue make him appear to be incompetent. In regards to Kenobi not killing Vader "to not give him the win" what win are you referring to? Vader tries to kill him, so Kenobi killing Vader is completely justified. If Vader is the best part of the show I think this proves the show is garbage.

[@mikepatton8691]

Headland had to get her wife making some money, nobody likes a deadbeat spouse, so Venestra's age was a minor quibble in the quest of nepotism. We've all heard of nepo-babies, Venestra was a nepo-spouse.

[@captainDJ87]

Notice whenever they touch something it's never sequel related.

[@AndrewAce.]

But the sequels are the most amazing thing ever though! They're what all the fans want, aren't they??

[@matthewk4912]

We all know that the sequels were not exactly all too well received, but the trilogy all happening within the span of a single year really limits storytelling opportunities. Add to that Snoke, Phasma, Hux, Pryde, and the Knights of Ren easily being killed, what is the point of building them up if they were discarded so easily? They could build up Dooku and Maul after they died in the prequel movies because they were still characters and were an intimidating force on-screen.

[@lasercraft32]

Yes... And notice they also tend to ruin most of the things they touch?

[@qwefg3]

They tried. They couldn't make anything with it. The show was a cartoon like Clone Wars and Rebels that involved pod racers fighting the First Order... It was quickly canceled, forgotten, and swept under the rug. The Sequels had nothing for anyone to work with besides a loss in profits.

[@trevturp6891]

@qwefg3 Actually The Sequels do have some interesting things to work with.

[@aspiringnormie9499]

Larger scale is the total opposite of what people want from a kenobi story. We want it contained to a neighborhood. Hell, I want it contained to a room. Like all I need is kenobi in a room being introspective. Maybe he helps some locals. Just kenobi reflecting on his life and choices is all I want. No need for an ensemble. No need for other legacy characters. Just Ewan McGregor being sad and looking into a fire will do it.

[@saberiandream316]

Read the Kenobi novel, lol.

[@cubeflinger]

Interesting interview with the Kenobi writer on star was theory

[@kainguru1]

Yes, want a second season! Even if it sucks, the fan edit community will come to the rescue like Season 1.

[@MildandLazyGuy]

Fan edit was only better because it was shorter.

[@henrikaugustsson4041]

Auralnauts is the only reason I can stand any of this shit anymore. “Larry” is incredible!

[@MildandLazyGuy]

Time for a dance off!

[@just-russ-83]

Hey Thor, what do you think about the budget of Force Awakens being over 600 million?

[@emberfist8347]

Sounds right they used more CGI than the Prequels.

[@johnpoulton9446]

Sooo looking forward to seeing Reva get sabered again and this time have her have and eye patch on and say “ But I Lived!” Like in Ice Age. And also getting to see grown adults chasing a child but not catch the little rascal because a tree branch and bush was in the way. And we get to see more inquisitors squabble like an episode of Real Housewives of Coriscant because ya know that makes them oh so menacing. Oh yeah! And maybe we will get to even see Obi Wan again. 🙄

[@jknetwork6211]

Hot take, Obi Wan was massacred worse as a character than Luke in the TLJ. Obi-Wan sparing Vader for no reason was dumber than anything from that movie

[@kodyshaw6991]

Just wait, in Kenobi season 2 they kill him off and reveal that the Kenobi in the OT is a totally different person who took on Obi-Wans name

[@mpnuorva]

You forgot a Jedi Master wallowing in his attachments in exile. Again.

[@emberfist8347]

No Obi-Wan didn’t try to kill Luke or Leia in their sleep. That is A-grade character assassination.

[@jon8234]

@kodyshaw6991 Disney would totally put a cgi de-aged Alec Guinness in the last episode they have no shame 💀💀

[@jknetwork6211]

@@emberfist8347 obi/wan let a literal child murderer go free that’s way worse

[@intotheaether9022]

So.... They are mad because we did not like the acolyte and now they're going to punish us with a season 2 of Kenobi

[@rawnchydeard4669]

This was exactly my thought.

[@jorndebello7317]

Hey Thor, I got a crazy idea for a movie/show that would get everyone together. 1000 years from now, episode 9, we find out that keeping your consciousness as a force ghost leads to reincarnation. The Sith has multiple small kingdoms of 2 to 3 sith leading each one. They mostly war with each other but sometimes with the Republic. Luke is reincarnated as Anakin's dad (because of how old Mark Hamill is). Obi-Wan is reincarnated and falls to the dark side. Rematch of the century with a Twist. Luke is with his wife, and they have trained Anakin. Reincarnated Rey falls to the dark side and fights reincarnated Ahsoka. Samuel L. Jackson could be back 😂 Mace! Some of the Force users could access the world between worlds and see some of the past push some to the dark side and some to the light. Have Avalos the force demon be what is push some to the dark side in the world between worlds. Maybe this sounds crazy, but I think it would be cool and make something that would pull original fans, sequel fans and prequel fans together ❤️

[@littlejimmy7402]

Bold move to beat the dead horse until it's more of a stain than a horse. Negan move to be sure. Yoda has been destroyed by jedi's that are more like high school students than jedi. The 'wisdom' displayed in the latest rounds of SW is laughable. Just because You wear a robe that doesn't make you The Dude.

[@criticalmasterpiece6706]

If they make a season 2, they should have Obi-Wan dule Darth Vader at least 20 more times in the 8 episodes; each time having Obi-Wan run away and shoot a laser fence he could just as easily walk around. That would be AWESOME! right?!? Right?!?!

[@lonebattledroid4474]

Thanks for answering my question Thor. Sorry to ask another question, but I was also wondering something else. I've heard it brought up that Disney should really jump far ahead on the timeline and do their own thing. If in some alternate reality where you had some sway in Lucasfilm what would you do in this Era? Hope tge question makes sense

[@georgea8352]

I been rewatching Andor and pretending everything else doesn't exist lol

[@brentwilley9267]

Can’t wait to see them completely flustered when season 2 fails too

[@MKojiro]

Hey Thor, as near as i can tell they're ashamed of the OT- it is something they simply wouldn't make today. But the OT is the absolute core of SW. How can they resolve this? The idea that the source of the IP there working with isn't compatible with their current practices?

[@captainvader921]

Hey Thor, so curious what you think of this recent observation I've made. A year ago, I rewatched all the Star Wars movies, and I noticed the music choice. Obviously John Williams came back for the Sequel Trilogy, and brought back a ton of his own music, but even Rogue One and Solo, which were done by Michael Giacchino and John Powell respectively, still made sure to reuse Williams's original music, and that helped those movies feel like Star Wars. Compare this to the live-action Disney+ shows, which don't do this very often. They all feel more focused on creating new music, and they don't often reuse Williams's work. This was particularly distracting in Kenobi, when they had the golden opportunity to play Battle of the Heroes during Obi-Wan and Vader's fight, and they just ignored it. I don't mind it in Andor, because that show isn't trying to be like Star Wars, in a good way, but the rest are, and for me, it's frustrating that they don't reuse Williams's music, because it makes them feel less and less like Star Wars. It's the one time I'd be ok with unapologetic fan service, but they always don't seem to care. I'll admit maybe this is just a "me problem", but I'd be curious to hear what you think.

[@Flaris]

Can’t wait for Season 2 of Leia…and that awkward loser with a light saber that accompanies her.

[@goodoldbubba6620]

I'm sure we will get plenty of Reva as well. It will probably be all about her trying to kidnap Luke and Leia so she can train them to defeat Vader. She will know about them being siblings because that's just common knowledge to everyone except Vader.

[@goodoldbubba6620]

Actually, what I just wrote would be vastly better than what KK will really do.

[@atlasdesnyder4747]

It's hard to say, of course, what the various executives, producers, and other bureaucrats at Disney genuinely think and/or internally argue was the cause of any given media failure; but clearly they have been unable to discern, or are for some reason unwilling to implement, an effective solution. I would guess, however, that there is a lot of rationalization going on, whether by the absurd 'franchise fatigue' narrative or, more likely for the more recent stuff considering there isn't enough material to be fatiguing, the 'fan conspiracy' narrative wherein a political invective from a small cadre of youtubers and twitter users leverage media power to turn away masses of potential viewers. My point is that tge decision makers have plenty of cause to spin a superficial and shortsighted understanding of any given dataset and outcome into a narrative that serves them best, that keeps them employed and/or sheilds their sociopolitical crusade, whatever the case may be, whether they believe their own words or not. This sort of attitude, entrenched over time by the continual hiring of like minded folks and an increasing alienation from a increasingly dissatisfied fanbase and apathetic general audience has likely created this culture of 'toxic positivity' we hear so much about and undermines the sort of creative risk taking needed to make good stories. So yeah, I think they're more likely to look at every possible reason for the Acolyte's failure and cherry pick the one most easily digested by their own wants and sensibilities -- which probably means that like Thor said original characters in new time periods are going to be underfavored for the time being, ongoing projects notwithstanding. Ironic, isn't it. Could be, though, that things get so bleak that eventually Disney/Lucasfilm is forced to massively downsize and restart from the grassroots in a sense, giving opportunity to new creatives able to build a culture of creative risk taking and mutual critical analysis to make better, albeit smaller budgeted at the start, material. Sorta a circle of life thing, or at least that's what I'm hoping.

[@Kevin_Street]

I wouldn't mind a second season of Kenobi if it was more like the eponymous novel, but I guess most of that ground has already been covered. Still, it could work if it was sort of a sci-fi western, with Kenobi doing his best to help people while still staying incognito. Ewan's comments don't really worry me, since that sort of thing could always be flashbacks.

[@Kowkarot]

So the answer is always "let's make a mediocre show set close to the Skywalker Saga" or "let's make a mediocre show NOT set close to the Skywalker Saga", huh? They still don't understand that the "mediocre" part is the problem.

[@lasercraft32]

Imagine if they brought back General Grievous for Kenobi season 2... Even though the guy literally got shot in the heart and burst into flames.

[@666daemian]

Disney doesn’t seem to concerned with cannon or good story telling so I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear “somehow Grievous returned. Also he flies now”

[@CrimpyPlate]

"No one's ever really gone" -Jake Skywalker

[@sweetchristmas101]

It just so happens Kaleesh have two hearts (and the second one is fire-proof).

[@emberfist8347]

I bet they would bring back Mace as a villain given how misunderstood his character is.

[@GusMcGuire]

I wish Disney would tell stories in chronological order and invest properly in world-building and character development. They introduce a raft of new characters who, we're told, all have a ton of backstory to them. But then they jump back and forth between the timeliines, only introducing specific elements of their backstory as they become relevant to the current part of the story. It's lazy shallow, world-building that makes everything look like a convenient plot contrivance. Hence, payoffs do not feel earned, twists are predictable and conclusions are deeply unsatisfying. I want writers that will plan out longer story arcs, not just throw in twists for a quick bit of clickbait on social media.

[@darthrizzen9349]

I have so little trust left in Disney-LFL and its current management that I expect Kenobi S2 to be yet another shoddily written, canon breaking disaster. Best ignore it and do something more interesting...

[@achaudhari101]

Nah.

[@saberiandream316]

Probably breaks canon even harder than Season 1, to the point you pine for Season 1, lol.

[@floweralligator]

Ffs :( why do they like to torture the fans

[@rasczaksroughnecks4027]

What I did like about Kenobi: I enjoyed seeing more of the Lars Homestead in live action. Seeing the Owen and Beru from Revenge of the Sith was a nice touch as well. I additionally like the Sarlacc Pit scene in The Book of Boba Fett, as dumb as it was that Fett thought his armor was inside the pit still, seeing the sarlacc jump out was pretty cool. Oh and the Toshe Station scene with Fixer and Camie in it, that was the chef’s kiss…

[@bramderacourt9499]

I don't want to be "that guy", But Star Wars is better off dead. I preferred the state of relative dormancy between 2005- 2015 to what it is now.

[@saberiandream316]

Wasn't dormant, we had several interesting books, like the Darth Bane Trilogy.

[@bramderacourt9499]

@@saberiandream316 " relative"

[@zacharyclark3693]

Hey Thor, I recently heard a great explanation about the difference between grey morality and moral complexity. For me, this sums up why Andor was great, verses a show like The Acolyte. I also think it addresses the supposed contradiction of why a show like Andor can be considered great Star Wars, but not concepts like Grey Jedi, or what the Acolyte tried to do in making the Jedi the "bad guys." This is from a video from a channel called TRILL, that mainly focuses on Roleplaying games. _"Grey Morality refers to the approach where characters, factions, or situations are morally ambiguous rather than clearly defined good or evil... Grey Morality focuses on ambiguity, blurring the lines between right and wrong, often by presenting morally ambiguous characters or scenarios... This often creates an atmosphere where moral clarity feels extremely elusive. This tends to lend itself to a sense of nihilism or cynicism where the lack of clear moral distinctions make every choice feel equally flawed, or in its extreme, pointless._ _Moral complexity however, enriches games by acknowledging that clear choices can have difficult, far reaching consequences. Moral Complexity focuses on nuance and presents choices with layers and trade-offs, challenging players to balance conflicting values or outcomes. Unlike Grey Morality, Moral Complexity doesn't inherently obscure moral clarity. Instead it highlights that making the right choice can still involve sacrifices or unintended consequences.... In the Morally Complex scenario, choices are still difficult but they're not meaningless. Every option has consequences...._ _Grey Morality presents a world where all choices are tainted and players are forced into picking the lesser evil in a system that is fundamentally broken. Whereas Moral Complexity offers a world where ethical decisions are hard but still carry meaning and impact."_ Sorry the quote is so long. Love to hear your thoughts on this.

[@LumVaughan]

Kenobi season 2 -- you know, you just KNOW-- they'll screw it up. Reva will be in it, Leia will as well and sassy Owen (which wouldn't be that bad, actually), and absolutely you'll see Vader or at least flashback Anakin. I don't think we need this at all, they screwed up with season 1 and now we true fans are rather jaded over any second season. Instead, here is a crazy idea -- move up season 2 of Ahsoka and get that hanging storyline done.

[@itsjusttap3010]

Don’t get what would be the point of moving the timeline more into the future. Like why? So they rip off what was done before even thou “they have no content to back to” (paraphrasing what KK said long ago) They’ve shown that they aren’t the best at thinking long term since they went ahead and released three movies (sequel) that failed to have any set up or anticipation for what happens next

[@Hello-bi1pm]

It means they stop raping the OT and we can finally ignore Lucasfilm's projects in that era and pretend the new story set in the future is the first thing they did when they bought the company

[@noneyabizness6094]

First season was garbage, why would i come back to a second season of Kenobi?

[@achaudhari101]

To see if it’s done way better.

[@Dante...]

​@@achaudhari101 I'd rather not take that gamble, especially when the odds of it actually turning out good seem so low.

[@achaudhari101]

@@Dante... Life finds a way.

[@skully5063]

I just wish they’d let the SkyWalker timeline die. They’ve decimated everything. Nothing makes any sense anymore. Thinking about the fire scene where Kenobi escapes Vader, the fight between Vader and Kenobi, Reva being left alive after knowing who Luke is.. it’s all just so incredibly stupid. I will never forget the scene where Storm Troopers don’t recognize Kenobi while hes wearing fucking Jedi robes in the back of the truck, the Empire is so fucking useless. Then they break cannon and give Qui Gon a force ghost, its like are you kidding? He would’ve been in the OT if he was a force ghost. You literally can’t make that decision… smfh.

[@jwade4684]

Oh my goodness. I really dont care anymore... huh!

[@achaudhari101]

Oh my goodness, you are seeking attention with your comment… huh!

[@jokester3076]

I think they should make a Darth Maul series, it would allow Darth Plagueis and Palpatine to both appear together in flashbacks from the time when he was given away to the Sith by Mother Talzin as a child. in the present Maul is trying to stay three steps ahead of both the ISB and the inquisitors, while leading the crimson dawn crime syndicate.

[@istari0]

Even if I like the idea they come up with, I'd be very concerned they'd still find a way to botch it and damage the character.

[@tikiman52]

Hey thor have u seen star wars theory's interview with Stewart beattie (the original writer for kenobi)? He said a lot of interesting things and I'd like to know what u think about his original ideas

[@MildandLazyGuy]

Can’t wait to cancel D- for good. And if Disney thinks the Acolyte problem was the lack of Skywalker saga…

[@Kleshumara]

Are the folks who wrote and directed Andor available to do Kenobi season 2? At least we know they can tell a good story with character interiority and complexity.

[@commodorekhan8602]

Believe it or not, the writers for Andor also did Kenobi season 1....just goes to show how bad of an effect Disney has oger projects they personally oversee

[@codymacaulay1435]

@commodorekhan8602 What are you on about? Andor writers wrote Kenobi? I think you might want to IMDb that misinformation…

[@commodorekhan8602]

@@codymacaulay1435 they did. But the issue is their vision of kenobi is not what disney wanted. They wanted to make a movie. Disney wanted a disney+ show. Then things got all messed up

[@codymacaulay1435]

@@commodorekhan8602 Stuart Beattie wrote the original screenplay for Kenobi. He did not write for Andor. Who specifically are you talking about?

[@commodorekhan8602]

@@codymacaulay1435 i meant the writers on the team. Not specifically just the main screenwriter. Im sure not all of them are all the same people from Andor

[@BigdogGaming-sm3lj]

Kenobi needs to get the its original movie writer to be the showrunner for season 2. We as a fandom needs to make that known.

[@miragewizard]

Downloading all of the Patterson cuts before the mouse catches wind.

[@innocuousalias6632]

Acolyte wasn't even committed to the old republic era feeling more like an awkward prequel to the phantom menace.

[@FFS-Vert]

Funnily enough the newest major High Republic book “Temptation of the Force” is one of my favorites so far. Finally felt like I was getting into the series for real with that one. Not that that would have any effect on Disney’s decision to continue or cancel the series.

[@saberiandream316]

High Republic sales have been shit and Lucasfilm would be wiser to reward the loyal EU/Legends readers than continuing to invest in this crap.

[@FFS-Vert]

@@saberiandream316 absolutely. I much prefer the EU outside of a few exceptions. Just started a second go through the Bane trilogy last night

[@saberiandream316]

@@FFS-Vert Constantly ignoring the loyal EU fandom is one of the biggest tragedies of the Disney Star Wars era.

[@jameslikesit]

The thing that sucks is the Acolyte failing this badly probably means they will never try a new time period again, at least for a long time. They will take the wrong message from this, that instead of seeing that the story was garbage, they will think they can only do stuff in the Skywalker period, which honestly sucks. They aren't doing anything good in this time period, their best home IMO was to get completely away and try something new. Unfortunately, this shows that it has nothing to do with what story or time period they do, they need to hire more competent writers to make compelling stories. These shows fail because the stories/new characters suck. Nothing they do will fix that until they pull their heads out of their asses and address this. Amazes me how such a large company can so consistently suck at producing good productions.

[@saberiandream316]

It just shows how much Lucasfilm struggles to build Star Wars and grow the fanbase in a way that's unique compared to what we had before, which is a shame, to be sure.

[@Toshiro93]

Lucasfilm: "probable second season of Kenobi coming out" Me: "And where is it written that this is my problem?"

[@GrievousReborn]

Unless Qui-Gon is involved I don't really want a second season of Kenobi and Liam Neeson saying he's done to Star Wars makes it sound like that's not going to be the case.

[@robmarconi6758]

I LOVED Vader and his relationship with Kenobi. Vader using the Force to grab hold of that ship, bring it down and open it up... damn

[@Janx14]

The Acolyte was a weird choice of story to show the high republic. From my understanding the High Republic is supposed to be this well...great time for the republic and the jedi, and the sith aren't a thing. So whats the show give us? The jedi seemingly in decline and the main villain kind of being a sith. Futhermore, it goes into the vergence thing again. While a 'new' era it really seems like its just retreading the prequals on a smaller scale.

[@saberiandream316]

There's some great stories in the EU that don't focus on major wars or the Sith. Look at the X-wing novels, very few Force powers on display there, or the Jedi Apprentice books, that take place during the Republic's Golden Age.

[@aaronbertram2342]

They'd never do it, but it would be great to start things in a second season with Kenobi waking from a dream that was the first season. It shook him into realizing he could never leave Luke out of his sight.

[@Emanon...]

Kenobi!? That's like setting someone on fire and then drowning them to quench the fire...

[@Jimgizmo7]

Hey Thor, I was thinking, could the key to a successful Star Wars revival lie with the fanbase? Do you think Disney should consider green-lighting an official project led by a fan rather than someone from Lucasfilm? After all, it has to be profitable for Disney to take a chance on someone outside their usual team. By the way, I really like your work! Keep it up!

[@dieselcat7567]

Personally the Kenobi story I would like to see is how he worked to dismantle Maul’s criminal syndicate. I think they were setting that up with the end of Solo. Use the element from the original Kenobi movie script treatment and bring in post chip Cody who Kenobi leaves to watch Luke while he deals with Maul.

[@Hendricus56]

They could use the option of flashbacks to combine a more secluded Obi Wan on Tatooine story line while having flashbacks to the Clone Wars for the action etc

[@edwin4625]

Hey Thor, If they were to release a High Republic game (not Jedi Survivor), do you think it would do amazing numbers, or would it just flop?

[@saberiandream316]

The books failed to take off. A game would be no better.

[@zacharyfett2491]

When I heard the title, I kind of thought they were going to tell Darth Zannah’s story. Bummer. As for a second season of Kenobi, I would prefer to see it take place primarily during the Clone Wars. He never has to leave Tatooine, he could commune with Qui Gon, and it cool be like 90% flashbacks as he decides how to help train or guide Luke.

[@saberiandream316]

Drew Karpyshyn wants to write the book, but Lucasfilm won't let him, sadly.

[@odbade1999]

get Stuart Beattie on there, his scrapped obiwan trilogy that disney abandoned is way better

[@mazkeraid4039]

Still would not change much.

[@grantcriddle1326]

I have zero faith. Please stop all productions until new leadership. A complete overhaul.

[@jdstudios1912]

I gave the high republic a chance and honestly it was just ok. Nothing notable just a thing in star wars that's been covered far more than it deserves to be. Personally I would've much preferred a more interesting era of star wars like the old republic but oh well. Probably for the best that Disney hasn't touched those eras but I'm sure they'll get around to it eventually. For me tho new star wars content doesn't even get my attention. I didn't even realise the acolyte came out until people started making content on it. Same happened with skeleton crew trailer. As for the books and comics they've just lost the magic and aren't worth reading so I dropped both as well. All I care about right now is andor season 2 and then I'll probably forget about star wars. I guess where I'm going with this is even if Disney did a u turn and started making quality star wars I don't think I'd really notice. Disney has created indifference towards star wars. I take solace in Disney at least re releasing the old comics from the EU and doing full unabridged EU star wars audiobooks.

[@saberiandream316]

There's still books that haven't been reissued that need to be.

[@shanearanda3472]

Season 2 and 3 would be amazing. Stuart Beattie's exploration of Obi Wan's attempt to turn Vader to the light side of the Force has not been explored. There is still plenty for Obi Wan to enjoy as a developing character. In the prequels he was more of a warrior than a Jedi Master. "Wars do not make one great." Season 1 ended with an opportunity to move towards becoming a "Master" of the force. Qui Gon seemed to be ready to teach Obi Wan once more. I'd like to see what challenges he faced to become a true disciple of the Force. Did Obi Wan face a place of darkness like Luke did on Dagobah? Did he help force user escape the Empire? Solve local conflicts? God! It would be great to FINALLY have a scene that highlights what made Anakin and Obi Wan's friendship so special. Throughout these new seasons Obi Wan's abilities to master the force must be tested, and through those challenges we learn how he is the Master that faces Maul in Rebels. Only by becoming a Master like, Windu or Yoda, does he seek out Vader, with the hope he might save his former student and "brother." In that conflict it's not about the crimes of the past, or defeating the Empire, this is a journey to rescue his friend. BUT... Disney makes content for children. Exploration of character is not how they choose to work. Compounding the problem is generations of fans. Most of which are toxic assholes. Each influenced by their place in time, their first experience with Star Wars. This only compounds the difficulty of creating something everyone can enjoy. That's all Disney wants, is a Star Wars everyone is going to love and embrace. Disney isn't interested in building on lore or myth, they want the ability to print cash in large quantities. So they retread the same ground over and over again serving "member-berries" for the simple folk eager to hand over their money at the hope of getting all the feels.

[@bmarshy]

Hey Thor, With all that has been happening lately in the Star Wars fandom, I think Disney really need to take a leap of faith and go in a new direction with the franchise. However, I don't think they should do that before fixing the mistakes they have made. Firstly, I think some of the Disney projects need to be decanonised. That doesn't mean they should be erased from existence (like the Willow series) but perhaps Disney should create a 'Canon' and a 'Legends' section on Disney plus so that fans of the Disney era can still watch and enjoy their content, but it also serves as an acknowledgement to the rest of the fans that Lucasfilm understands the mistakes they have made (for me personally, this would include retconning the sequels, Kenobi S1, The Acolyte, and maybe Solo: A Star Wars story). Disney could then focus on fixing the mistakes made by those projects by delivering a better story of Kenobi between Episodes III and IV; creating a new sequels story by doubling down on the mandoverse, redeeming Luke and having him build the new Jedi order, building Thrawn up to be the big antagonist of the era, and perhaps introducing some bigger conflict that both Thrawn and the New Republic join together for (like maybe Abeloth who is exiled on Peridia and controls an army of Grisk like how Sauron controls the orcs). After they've amended the mistakes they made with the central legacy characters, then they can begin to move outside of the main Star Wars saga into other time periods. I think the perfect project to begin this expansion with would be a direct and faithful adaptation of the Darth Plagueis novel by James Luceno into a 3-season high-budget series that follows the 3-part structure of the novel (but with any adaptations that might make the story more suited as a series). After this, I think they should then move onto the Old Republic as their next 'phase' in storytelling (like Marvel) and give us different movies, books, games, and TV shows that all interconnect to create a story of its own, but one that doesn't stray too far from Star Wars that it becomes unrecognisable. The old republic era should have its own identity, but I also think it would be cool to see a lot of foreshadowing of what is to come with the prophecy of the chosen one etc (like how Daemon in House of the Dragon has a vision of Ice and Fire and it changes his character going forward). Apologies for the long comment, I started with a point I was trying to make but ended up rambling on about what I'd love to see from Star Wars. I'd like to hear what you think about this and if you think adapting old legends stories into the new canon is the right way to go? Or if entirely new and original stories would save Disney possibly ruining even more of the beloved franchise? Or perhaps a mix of both?

[@GrechStudios]

I didn’t even know the High Republic thing was still going on. I never hear anything about it.

[@DarthTempestas]

Season 2 of Kenobi would probably just focus on Reva’s redemption arc, since the first season was mainly about her. It’s really hard for mess up a Kenobi show, but they did it. Not saying there weren’t parts I like, and even one I loved but I was hoping for what you’re talking about; a more introspective Kenobi, isolated on Tattooine, portray him having PTSD and throw tons of flashbacks, I don’t care if they’re “fan service” or not.

[@genopsdir]

Unless it’s at least twice as good as season one, I highly doubt it will bring the fans back.

[@saberiandream316]

Only more EU as Legends would bring me back.

[@TOFKAS01]

2:31 I would like if they expand the Pen and Paper RPG from Star Wars with a High Republic productionline.

[@johnrodriguez5277]

I'd rather have a root canal without novacain than have to watch another season of kenobi! 🤢🤮

[@voidoflight2420]

Honestly I feel like having flashbacks to the clone-wars wouldn't be too bad? Sure, it's a larger scope, but if they don't have him confront Vader again and focus more on Obi-Wan's force ghost training along with him coping with the past, it could be more akin to what people wanted from the first season- rather than what we actually got with the first season.

[@Loki_Yogi]

I'm of the opinion that the Fandom does NOT need to be reminded of Kenobi S1. Nor do we need to suffer through all the baked in prejudice and hate that S2 would certainly receive before the 1st episode airs. Let sleeping womprats lie.

[@rawnchydeard4669]

I legit don’t want anything else from Disney. They have proven over and over they don’t understand what they bought. So many of us no longer care. And more crap isn’t going to help anyone.

[@marti6641]

"Kenobi" season two = The "Reva/Princess Leia Show" season 2. His name will be in the title of the show, but I have NO confidence that Disney will actually make the show about him as the main character.

[@SergioLopez-eb6fz]

Can't wait for the reva show season 2

[@seanmurphy7011]

I don't want them to do anything until Kathleen Kennedy retires.

[@Tarriq]

Season 2 could link to the syndicates and tatooine. Pick up form star wars outlaws, solo, clone wars and rebels

[@TheEldritchGod]

Omg,i cant wait for kenobi to hook back up with Lela and ignore luke. And by hook up, i mean i expect them to make out on camera given how sexual star wars has gotten.

[@jarbear2179]

Please no season 2 … why beat the dead horse?

[@thesurvivorssanctuary6561]

Why not? 🤷‍♀️ Are they going to fuck up the show that already fucks up continuity and versimilitude? Their ignoring of the high republic shows that there will be zero continuity moving forward, so may as well encourage as many projects as possible until they hit critical mass and collapse into a multiverse copout.

[@saberiandream316]

Readers still care about the EU, but no one cares about the High Republic era. Speaks volumes.

[@JohnSheppard1]

Lucasfilm continues to exceed the definition of "bewildering" when greenlighting productions. Kenobi season 1 is right down at the bottom of the barrel, in terms of quality, along with The Last Jedi and now The Acolyte. It's amateur hour stuff. The High Republic has never been popular, and Disney/Lucasfilm definitely wanted The Acolyte to be a shot in the arm for it to renew interest, but with The Acolyte being woeful they simply managed to tank both it, and The High Republic, at the same time. Disney/Lucasfilm can't die fast enough. Their handling of Star Wars has been atrocious. Absolutely atrocious.

[@miragewizard]

As for Kenobi, Disney just needs to WILLOW the 1st season of Kenobi, and then forward $180 million to Star Wars Theory so that he can do it right.

[@thebendu33]

I'm pretty much done with the franchise. They just can't reed the freaking room. And get all the wrong messages. And I'm not going to torture myself anymore.

[@stephenelberfeld8175]

I did not think the young "Princess Leia" was a poorly written character or took away from the show so much as the ending. If we do get another season of Kenobe, we should get the "young Luke Skywalker" we were expecting in the first season. It may be difficult to come up with an interesting and exciting story on Tatooine that hasn't already been told.