The Acolyte - Se1 Ep6 - Teach/Corrupt - Reaction

[@SimonTalksStarWars]

What did you think? I still find the short episode times frustrating but we're set for an interesting final 2 episodes. Gonna have some theory videos out this week too!

[@ssotkow]

Simon, wasn't TV traditionally 30-minute long. Around 20 minutes or so minus the commercials? Our standards seem to have shifted. I felt ep 6 duration was about right, granted House of Dragon s2 episodes are more satisfying. The Bear s3 season dump is overwhelming... missing out on live discourses as Bear fans are racing to finish entire season.

[@merkarion7883]

For me the greatest weakness of "The Acolyte" is that there are only 8 Episodes with mostly 25 to 30 Minutes effective runtime (without Credits). Double the count of the Episodes to 16 and it would not feel so rushed (i mean we have only 2 Episodes left...and soo much to be done)

[@SimonTalksStarWars]

@@ssotkow Depends on the show to be honest, animation and sitcoms were 20-25 minutes long. Most sci-fi and fantasy shows were closer to 45-50 minutes and had over 12 episodes per season. I know it's different because they were episodic for the most part but it's still something I think we should be sticking to where possible.

[@agresticumbra]

An older style miniseries, with each episode being at least hour long, IMO, would be a better approach. Creating serious episodes just 30 min long, like a cartoon, just isn’t conducive to the genre presented.

[@agresticumbra]

Ssotkow, the way I look at it is tons of commercials is more of an American thing. PBS, and other publicly funded channels in other countries don’t have that. This streaming format is paid for by us, so truncating a series like this, particularly of this genre as if it’s a Saturday morning cartoon, isn’t the ideal choice, IMO.

[@hayhay1999]

I have a theory that Vernestra was actually Qimir's Master. Qirmir's scar on his back almost looks like the Injury of a Whip, a Lightsaber Whip 😉Vernestra seemed pretty deep in her thoughts while she was examining the scene like she thinks she knows who did it

[@LordGavial1138]

100%

[@geoffreywery6283]

Yh thinking the same thing. Another theory is that is he was a sith apprentice but got denied like ventress.

[@sackthebastard]

Wow you’re the only one saying this. Definitely your own thoughts that you came up with all on your own!

[@americanhero1234]

Everyone has this same theory...you didnt think of this first. People were saying this after the first episode😂😂😂

[@jeremykulow1970]

I think The Stranger may have been Vernestra's padawan. His scar looks like it came from a whip.

[@hayhay1999]

That's what I reckon too!

[@walteredgar2700]

That’s definitely what they want us to think

[@seangargan]

I think based on the scar, Qimir was Vernestra’s padawan. I don’t think he was on the mission on Brandok; Sol would have recognized him when they interrogated him in the 2nd episode

[@kathyjumper6991]

I like your reviews Simon. So far it's a great show. (I hope my liking it doesn't spoil other people's foul moods.) I think Qimir was Vanessa's padawan and she gave him the scars on his back from her whip. He may not have been trained by a Sith, but became dark because of something she did to him.

[@vanessaaves3271]

I know, some people are so negative! It’s kind of unbelievable at how toxic a lot of comment’s sections have been. I enjoy this show quite a bit! But as a Vanessa, I definitely didn’t train Qimir… or did I?

[@kathyjumper6991]

@@vanessaaves3271 Cute. Ok, so I misspelled Vanestra's name ( typing it again I noticed my spell check automatically changed it to Vanessa. This time I noticed it and corrected it.)

[@TheHipsterGamer]

I’m so intrigued with Qimir. He seems one of the few (possible) dark side users that could actually have a calm conversation about how and why he takes the perspective he does. He doesn’t participate in the dogmatism of the Jedi, he called out the Jedi view of emotions being a path to the dark side as a matter of semantics. I don’t believe he views the force as two sides to choose from but rather a singular entity with multiple ways to wield it.

[@G1Transformed]

Why do you think Qimir is Sol's padawan? The bond between master and padawan is a powerful connection. It is why Obi-Wan could sense Vader in his own series and why Sol could sense Osha in the first episode. If Qimir was Sol's padawan he would have said something sooner when they first met. Did you see the scar on Qimir's back? It looks like a whip scar, and who do we know that has a whip? Surely, it is no coincidence that this episode reintroduced us to Vernestra while Qimir teased his past. Manny Jacinto is 12 years older than Amandla Stenberg, and while we don't know his character's age, we do know that Osha and Mae are in their mid-twenties in this series. Before whatever happened on Brendok, Vernestra likely had an incident with her young padawan, Qimir. We saw that Vernestra's connection with the Force is powerful, she was able to feel/hear what happened before her arrival. She didn't tell the Jedi she was with what she felt. She invited the Jedi accompanying her to surmise what transpired, and she didn't correct his faulty assumptions despite knowing exactly what happened--this mission's coverup is underway, and it all hinges on what the other Jedi felt, as she's going to back up his findings. Why was Vernestra able to see echoes in the Force of what transpired? Why did she look uneasy about it all? Because she felt a very familiar presence in the Force, her former padawan! I do agree that Qimir was on Brendok! Perhaps the witches found him and healed him. He likely lived outside their compound because he wasn't a witch. In fact, I think Mother Koril feared him more than the arrival of the Jedi. Yes, she worried about the Jedi, but they were predictable and they had made efforts to come to their compound. Qimir, on the other hand, was a wild card that no one could read. Just before the Jedi interrupted the Ascension, one of the witches said that the Jedi had sliced through their platform, but that likely didn't happen. If they sliced the platform, why didn't they come with weapons drawn? Forcing one's way into one's space is a sign of aggression, the Jedi didn't do that. They found a way in (Force Jump?) and entered the square peacefully. When Sol reached for his weapon, Indara quickly interjected, thinking he was going to use it against him. Indara was the Jedi in charge and she made sure that they were all on the best behavior on Brendok. I think the Jedi's arrival angered Qimir and made his painful past resurface. Qimir likely ceased on the opportunity the Jedi's arrival offered him. To take the witches' knowledge and blame the whole ordeal on the Jedi. I think Qimir got inside Torbin's mind and used him to attack the witches, which Forced Kelnacca to give him that nasty scar. The other Jedi might have encountered Qimir who was probably disguised as a witch and quickly found that they were no match for them. They grabbed Osha and got the hell out of Dodge, which would explain why they left Brendok in a hurry. Since Vernestra is the head of security, she likely told them to keep quiet about the whole thing--it was her padawan after all, and she probably wanted to cover her own tracks, while keeping the Jedi's standing in the Senate safe. I don't think Vernestra sees her actions as evil, and I don't think she did what she did for nefarious reasons, but shame. She failed as a master, and her past is coming back to bite her in the @$$. Will Vernestra and Qimir have a final showdown? Will Vernestra take the fall for her blunder or will she get Sol to do it? I can't wait to see how this turns out. I'm enjoying the ride. Let's go!

[@dominiccastro6483]

Literally the only time I was interested in this episode was when Qimir was on screen.

[@seanpatrickcain2]

Agreed

[@ervicito77]

The power of Manny took over this episode, lol. It was an ok-ish episode. But yeah, both Qimir and Sol are the standouts. There were some good acting in the show. And again, I'm still not emotionally invested in the twins' story, just the people around them. Great review and analysis, friend, as always. Now do get some much needed rest. 🤗

[@msoundg]

You look handsome, Simon, much thinner, or at least that what it seems to me.Hope you're feeling well!

[@Culperrr]

It will be interesting to watch the season as a whole instead of over 8 weeks. As of now, though, I think they either had production issues or they were told to spread the episodes out over 8 episodes instead of 5-6. Perhaps that is where the "tone-deaf" aspects you brought up come from as maybe they had to re-edit the episodes to fit into a schedule, which messed with the original flow.

[@MrJlin1982]

I think your wrong about Qimer. That would be strange.

[@artiemedley9369]

Excellent observation. I, too, have this hovering around an 8/10. 7.5/10 before episode 5. Each episode DOES leave you wanting more. The episodes are too short. But, on that note, this could very well have been a 2 and a half hour movie. Or, a longer episode 6 episode season. The tonal shift was the worst part of this episode. The dialogue was much better in this episode, too.

[@silver292]

This episode was so boring....like....nothing happened....people said a lot of words without actually saying anything at al. Just the whole mystery they're trying to inject into this show is just executed really poorly.

[@Electiger-y5k]

Every ep can’t be action u nitwit . Stick to cartoons

[@jq8913]

​@@Electiger-y5k so they're not allowed to share their opinion without people like you calling his names?

[@dominiccastro6483]

HOW can you give this a 7. This show is a 4 at best, last episode was good but that was only because of the fight choreography.

[@seangargan]

Oh my god, how can you see things different than me? Dude, stop

[@TheHipsterGamer]

Oh wow, I didn’t know your point of view was an undeniable objective truth that must be shared by everyone else that also watches this show.

[@Electiger-y5k]

I thought the show is 10 out of 10.

[@SimonTalksStarWars]

Easy! I just said the words "I give this show a seven out of ten so far"

[@TheTruMan196]

A naked adult man approaches a confused young woman and manipulates her into trusting him. This has no place in Star Wars, a franchise aimed for a younger audience. Why are we still calling this show good?

[@kathyjumper6991]

We never did see him naked. He could have been wearing a loincloth, boxers, or something else.

[@TheTruMan196]

@@kathyjumper6991 if he was wearing something, they would have shown it. You simply CANNOT defend this.

[@jackiec859]

Okay, Mom.

[@seangargan]

That’s a stupid fucking take

[@TheHipsterGamer]

You act like the old woman from Andor literally didn’t call the imps “bastards” in her recorded memoir shown during her funeral… could’ve sworn that’s not language suitable for children. Oh shut up dude.