The Acolyte was EVEN WORSE than we thought...

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@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder Күн бұрын
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@maciek_k.cichon
@maciek_k.cichon Күн бұрын
Live long and prosper, mate🖖😁
@darkguardian1314
@darkguardian1314 Күн бұрын
I got to Level 47... The whales ruin everything...😢
@mulukh7
@mulukh7 Күн бұрын
Shame to see you promoting this, terribly generic, boring and pay2win game
@ScaricoOleoso
@ScaricoOleoso Күн бұрын
Screw the game, and screw the ad in the video.
@windflier1684
@windflier1684 Күн бұрын
an sponsor for Star Trek in a Star War video, great
@Mrbluefire95
@Mrbluefire95 Күн бұрын
Andor reached 4B minutes because viewer numbers rose every passing episode, which is an impressive feat despite the total not being all that crazy.
@usrevenge
@usrevenge Күн бұрын
We should all do our part and rewatch andor 20 times. Before going to work today start up andor at home.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Күн бұрын
It's even more impressive when you consider that the show has no major (in-universe) characters, or Jedi/Sith, or any fan favorites. All the main characters are new aside from Andor, who only appeared previously in Rogue One.
@stanco4ever
@stanco4ever Күн бұрын
​@@usrevengeI've already done that, time for the rest of you to pick up the slack.
@mizmuth
@mizmuth Күн бұрын
@@GonzoTehGreat And Mon Mothma... but I don't think many were asking for more info or depth to her. We got it anyways and it was great.
@hotfroganimations
@hotfroganimations Күн бұрын
@@mizmuth… that was the worst part of the show and it added nothing.
@sicksadworld765
@sicksadworld765 Күн бұрын
„Today’s video is sponsored by Star Tre….” It’s treason then
@AndrewAce.
@AndrewAce. Күн бұрын
_"I _*_AM_*_ the sponsor!"_
@nightprince8641
@nightprince8641 Күн бұрын
​@@AndrewAce.Be mindful of the sponsors they betray you
@TheTrollingMaster-xr9el
@TheTrollingMaster-xr9el Күн бұрын
@@AndrewAce.not yet
@popcornfilms1
@popcornfilms1 Күн бұрын
“Unlimited sponsor”
@nightprince8641
@nightprince8641 Күн бұрын
@@popcornfilms1 lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CalebS92
@CalebS92 Күн бұрын
Bad writing can kill a franchise and I honestly believe that that's the largest killer of all these shows, it doesnt effect its own series but the next one, if Kenobi was crap and you fall off halfway in you're less likely to bother with the next Star wars show that comes out
@sloppy_funk
@sloppy_funk Күн бұрын
Kenobi was crap lmao
@lordofthenerds66
@lordofthenerds66 Күн бұрын
This is 100% true, and this effect is very clearly seen in Skeleton Crew, because that show, despite it being completely competent and even pretty good, had the misfortune of following up the Acolyte, one of the worst productions in all of Star Wars history. And, well... the numbers don't lie. I do like SC, but Star Wars as a franchise is nearing (or god forbid, at) the point of no return... apathy.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Күн бұрын
​@@lordofthenerds66I can confirm that I quit watching The Acolyte (because it was truly awful) and have no interest in Skeleton Crew.
@Coroplocs-Chameleon
@Coroplocs-Chameleon Күн бұрын
B A D W R I T I N G
@UTU49
@UTU49 Күн бұрын
After the Last Jedi, I have no willingness to try to sort out which Star Wars properties I would find worth watching and which I wouldn't. I'm pretty sure that Kathleen Kennedy has cost Disney billions of dollars with her mismanagement of the sequel trilogy. (Which isn't even a trilogy. It's a just a "make it up as you go along" movie series like any other.)
@ketsuekikumori9145
@ketsuekikumori9145 Күн бұрын
"It cannot be fun to be a Disney executive right now." And yet they get keep their job whenever the company decides to cut costs despite an ever increasingly bloated paycheck paid to said executive.
@RogueDragon05
@RogueDragon05 Күн бұрын
Even if they are forced out they keep their money and houses and in all likelihood get just as nice of a job with another company that will give them millions of dollars before they even show up just for promising to show up.
@swordboy5477
@swordboy5477 Күн бұрын
It’s so insanely frustrating. If Disney didn’t have the name and resources already available to it from past success than all the current execs would be long gone for their recent performances.
@tintinismybelgian
@tintinismybelgian Күн бұрын
What percentage of the overall budget goes to executive salaries/bonuses?
@biocapsule7311
@biocapsule7311 Күн бұрын
*It's not just Disney executives,* it's executive for every and any sector. They are call the C-suite officers (COO, CEO, CFO etc.), since when have you ever seen job ads for executives. It's because there aren't. C-suite officers are headhunted from a very limited pool of people who hold the required credentials. And as such they aren't 'fired' either. Because any news of people that level getting fired will effect the stocks. So if it doesn't work out, they are ask to 'leave' after a certain amount of time, under the cover of certain reasons (usually personal). And they move on to yet another company. because apparently there are more companies that need C-suite officers then there are connected C-suite officers. So they are always cycling around the same job, just different sectors.
@RogueDragon05
@RogueDragon05 Күн бұрын
@ Remember Xbox's Don Mattrick? He bounced from EA to Microsoft devastated Xbox so badly that it's still reeling even though he's been gone for 10 years, immediately after quietly leaving Xbox he went to some mobile gaming company fucked that over and got outted again. He's still rich and probably working at some other company now
@storminmormin14
@storminmormin14 Күн бұрын
Shockingly, short term thinking and planning led to short term success.
@paradoxworkshop4659
@paradoxworkshop4659 Күн бұрын
@@storminmormin14 this is the corporate way...
@johnrambo5795
@johnrambo5795 Күн бұрын
​@@paradoxworkshop4659 yup, they wanted New stuff as fast as possible to maximise profits. Wich worked. For a time.
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim Күн бұрын
Thinking? there's no thinking involved only the agenda
@samthesuspect
@samthesuspect Күн бұрын
short term? I mean didn't they have a whole expanded universe planned if the Acolyte was successful? To have 3-4 shows in that time period like we do with the Mando era. I mean the show was still a dud but they planned long and hard for it.
@TheBlueCat
@TheBlueCat 19 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately they planned long and hard. To bad they are incompetent and full of themselves. To much so to see any flaws in their "perfect" star wars
@tspangs23
@tspangs23 Күн бұрын
What on earth did they spend $230 million on for the Acolyte? None of the actors are huge names, other than maybe Carrie-Anne Moss and she had like less than 60 minutes total of screen time. The CGI and sets looked fine, but nothing spectacular. So where did all that money go?
@akolyt
@akolyt Күн бұрын
The Korean actor is a big name (ironically I don’t remember it) and Carrie only had like ten minutes of screen time
@akolyt
@akolyt Күн бұрын
Some of the sets were really bad
@vaporwave4880
@vaporwave4880 Күн бұрын
I agree. Skeleton Crew looked 10x better.
@Isometrix116
@Isometrix116 Күн бұрын
If I had to guess: Standard production costs like all the people that do all of the work that get a 3 second credit at the end made up most of it, which usually happens because things are taking way too long, which usually happens because the script is a mess :D
@gimzod76
@gimzod76 Күн бұрын
Cough money laundering cough.
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob Күн бұрын
I'm BAFFLED how The Acolyte cost so much.
@DarthB
@DarthB Күн бұрын
Leslye Headland gave her wife and friends parts in the show so she probably paid herself and them a lot of money as well thats likely were the budget went
@jordanmoss2722
@jordanmoss2722 Күн бұрын
​@@DarthB Which is really ironic when you think because often that's a move from low budget productions to save money for using big name actors.
@burlbird9786
@burlbird9786 Күн бұрын
​@@DarthBlol, US is basically a Third world country even in that regard 😂
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Күн бұрын
@@DarthB ALSO the reshoots and rewrites were so extensive they effectively shot the whole thing 2-3 times. the finished version has a bunch of weird plot inconsistencies which make sense only if you're seeing pieces of more than one script.
@jessecarozza6745
@jessecarozza6745 Күн бұрын
Italian villas don't buy themselves!
@illyria000
@illyria000 Күн бұрын
"things are bad generally" Remember when streaming was fantastic for like, 5 years, before greed ruined it... good times
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 Күн бұрын
This isn't said enough. It isn't just a Disney specific thing, but every single network/studio thinking it needs its own streaming service screwed up many things but particularly the mass dilution of quality that the endless need for content created. Not only that, the make-up of studios has changed to the extreme in terms of business decisions. It is no surprise that virtually all major IP franchises are struggling.
@michaellane5381
@michaellane5381 Күн бұрын
I mean... Not really, back when streaming started Cable was too $$$ but did everything Streaming did and more, then Streaming started being where all the GOOD shows released and most good cable programs and movies were already there, then Streaming became "Cable but wireless" and we all need a package adding up to cable prices to watch enough good shows.
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob Күн бұрын
Greed is ruining literally every single thing. Share holders can't just be content and need infinite profits infinitely.
@RamonInNZ
@RamonInNZ Күн бұрын
Just like Radio/TV/Newspapers... greedy corporate companies promising too much to their shareholders or overpaid C-level management!
@Bateluer
@Bateluer Күн бұрын
Greed or ideological spin?
@grandadmiralzaarin4962
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Күн бұрын
I mean, revolutionary thought for Disney...they could try relying on creativity, good writing and actually doing the things that put them on the map in the first place rather than milking the cash cow of IP long after it's dead...
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia Күн бұрын
You know why. Being creative is a risk and risks don’t make money as a guarantee. They’d rather slowly drain the cash cow for its last ounce and then move on to the next golden goose.
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 Күн бұрын
That would require making apologies to the authors of the EU, and egos at Disney/Lucasfilm can't abide that.
@hylianchriss
@hylianchriss Күн бұрын
I agree in general, but Star Wars as an IP isn't dead. Disney just ran it into a mountain, and keeps trying to push through the same mountain over and over again.
@clicksclacks
@clicksclacks Күн бұрын
Depending on who you ask one could argue TLJ checked all of those boxes (killing off your major antagonist for a guy that already lost is "creative", lots of it's defenders still think that slop is well written, and it put walkers on a white encrusted planet again and puppet Yoda - a few things that put SW on the map!) which is exactly the problem Disney faces; a total disconnect between execs and the people they hire with legions of fans. If Disney execs all loved pickles, hired people that also loved pickles, and I asked for some good food but hated pickles, guess what they're serving up? And when they look at their social media pages and listen to crowds at D23 the loudest fans still hanging around there are all pickle fans because non-pickle fans left, leading to an echo chamber that tells them how excited they were to watch, buy, and eat pickles. Then they look at numbers, panic, "listen" to fans, and what will they do? "Creativity? We haven't had a zoophile protag yet, so here's Dunber, the shaved wookie in love with a womp rat! Good writing? Surely that popular Dr Who fanfic writer will get the job done! Things that put SW on the map? Let's adjust that Han-Geedo scene AGAIN!" ... and thus you have the current ever circling death spiral. I mostly gave up on new SW crap after TLJ and outside of Andor, I don't think there's been anything to really challenge that decision.
@TommoBoyyo
@TommoBoyyo Күн бұрын
@@warlordofbritannia "This comment was brought to you by Squid Game. Which sees those two options and chooses both."
@Anakin_Skywalker-vu6tv
@Anakin_Skywalker-vu6tv Күн бұрын
I haven’t even bothered to watch acolyte, but I watched Skeleton Crew, and I thought it was really charming, it’s a shame we won’t be getting more.
@Zerzayar
@Zerzayar Күн бұрын
Won't we? Was this already announced?
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 Күн бұрын
@@Zerzayar Theyve mentioned the kids may cameo in one of the film projects but they dont have any plans to continue Skeleton Crew as the actors are already a couple of years older than when it was filmed (Sep 2022).
@xonox_868
@xonox_868 Күн бұрын
Skeleton crew was great because it didnt feel like anything was being said other than have fun and be a kid
@notsosecretsquirrel9389
@notsosecretsquirrel9389 Күн бұрын
​@@xonox_868 kinda an issue just if you don't have kids or would just rather watch the goodies imo. Best part of that show was the robot pirate and idk his name.
@Spartan117FS
@Spartan117FS Күн бұрын
@@watcherzero5256 This doesn't rule out that the Jod's story could continue from where it was left off.
@bruceleepunch1975
@bruceleepunch1975 Күн бұрын
If they showed "The Acolyte" on a plane during a flight, I'd still walk out.
@demogorgonzola
@demogorgonzola Күн бұрын
... cosplaying as Skywalker ;)
@koharumi1
@koharumi1 Күн бұрын
Just like snow white 2025
@deltaforce4361
@deltaforce4361 Күн бұрын
Lmaooo
@nullc0ntext
@nullc0ntext Күн бұрын
Man notify me before you sit next to me in an exit row ok?
@Ptaaruonn
@Ptaaruonn Күн бұрын
Right?! Besides it's always such a good day outside a bit chilly though, but nothing a jacket can't fix.
@Swaggs907
@Swaggs907 Күн бұрын
Star Wars has a similar problem to Halo. It doesn’t feel like there’s any real direction. None of these shows feel connected or building towards anything. They blew their big moves early and are now just throwing random stuff at the wall. It’s also hard to build tension filling in the gaps when we already know what happens. It’s not impossible but it better be good.
@BrassTheBarbarian
@BrassTheBarbarian Күн бұрын
It also feels like with both halo and sw that the people who own the properties actively hate their fanbase. Like okay dude, those are your regular customers. Rhere was a time that i would have bought anything sw or halo. But now i just dont care. Its sad. Still love the old stuff tho.
@pax6833
@pax6833 Күн бұрын
Dude absolutely. SW fans think they're suffering but holy shit I've never seen a franchise die as badly as Halo. Horribly new books creating terrible lore, ruining characters, plot lines that go nowhere. Then the new games had to work with that and flopped hard. Then the live action came in with an axe...
@JKSSubstandard
@JKSSubstandard 7 сағат бұрын
In a way, star wars has the exact same issue as halo. The franchise in itself is a juggernaut, but then they had a dud. (halo 5, VS the sequel trilogy) and then they panicked and they rewrote all their plans they had to avoid the dud but in doing so they rushed it and put out an inferior product which dug the hole deeper. And then they decided to throw money at the problem, and that hasn't worked. Both franchises need better overall management and a return to solid writing. You don't need to throw money at the problem if you take your time and do it right
@Balo168
@Balo168 Күн бұрын
I miss the days where shows had +20 episodes in a season that were all ~45 minutes long. Now we get less than 10, and the length of an episode fluctuates wildly. Waiting a week for a 20 minutes episode leaves a bitter taste.
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 Күн бұрын
This is why I continually go back and rewatch Star Trek series. From the original series all the way up through Enterprise. My wife and I like going back and watching older shows that we hadn't seen originally. Just watched all the episodes of Xena warrior princess and now I'm back at Twin Peaks. Not saying they are great shows but there's lots of episodes to keep you entertained... 🖖🏻
@bluedotdinosaur
@bluedotdinosaur 18 сағат бұрын
That's the problem with "prestige TV". It became the driving product for the entertainment industry in mid-2000s. TV shows with the pedigree of motion pictures. The problem is that doesn't scale up well to genres that require epic production scope and special effects. Like fantasy or science fiction. A 22 episode season of 48 minute screenplays wouldn't return on investment.
@jiopa
@jiopa 14 сағат бұрын
So the cw?
@Balo168
@Balo168 14 сағат бұрын
@@jiopa have you never watched Startrek TNG, Stargate SG1/atlantis.
@GeneralELucky
@GeneralELucky 8 сағат бұрын
@@JB-1138 Not a fan of the newer shows? I enjoyed Picard because of the closure to the older shows.
@Tryst1982
@Tryst1982 Күн бұрын
Eckhart: Makes video covering a major Star Wars fail. Also Eckhart: "This video is brought to you by Star Trek" No matter who loses...Eckhart wins. Magic.
@benstepanek2808
@benstepanek2808 Күн бұрын
Hey, Trek is dead too. Get the money before it's gone.
@bobdole8830
@bobdole8830 Күн бұрын
Star Trek is also bad now
@joewilson3393
@joewilson3393 Күн бұрын
This data does kind of explain why Netflix immediately cancels everything, actually
@s0ph053
@s0ph053 Күн бұрын
Still sucks.
@MagosMirka
@MagosMirka Күн бұрын
It's a self-fulfilling circle, though. At this point I rarely even bother watching something new, because even if it's interesting Netflix might just cancel it and then I'm left on a cliffhanger (looking at you, Inside Job)
@DarthB
@DarthB Күн бұрын
@@MagosMirka i feel you! its the exact same reason why i dont get invested in anything now and it kills any fun. i really enjoyed inside job as well and they were just getting into the story when it was cancelled, same with farzar and a few others
@Dystopianutopiabuilds
@Dystopianutopiabuilds Күн бұрын
I will not watch any series until it has finished and have seen that the people that liked it confirm that it had conclusions. I've been pissed off too many times to do anything else. ​@@DarthB
@ICU1337
@ICU1337 Күн бұрын
Nah, Netflix is off doing its own thing. They have shows with great ratings and viewerships that they still end up cancelling. They also hike up prices while removing content. Netflix gets way too much of a free pass that other platforms get crucified for.
@vodeankandosii3982
@vodeankandosii3982 Күн бұрын
Skeleton Crew got what Solo got. The backlash from exhausted fans who gave up on SW.
@renaissancenovice7202
@renaissancenovice7202 Күн бұрын
Yes
@FlexibleToast
@FlexibleToast Күн бұрын
The difference is that Solo wasn't good.
@majorlazor5058
@majorlazor5058 22 сағат бұрын
Skelton Crew had 2 of its episodes released in 2025
@Gandalfthegoldenbird
@Gandalfthegoldenbird 2 сағат бұрын
@@FlexibleToastit also wasn’t the worst thing in the world. Lando was fun, the imperial army stuff was cool. The maul cameo and woody harrelsons character was fun. Han did suck though 😂
@rebelappliance771
@rebelappliance771 Күн бұрын
I think another major factor here is how much people are willing to spend on streaming services. With the way the world is right now I’d bet the cost is just too great for most people.
@EliteTank
@EliteTank Күн бұрын
Netflix just added a record 18.5mill new subscribers last quarter. Their stock is exploding.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Күн бұрын
I think people can still afford subscriptions, but they're being more selective about which ones they get.
@brandonf1260
@brandonf1260 Күн бұрын
it depends, atleast in the US median population is able to spend more now than ever. I think people are just tired of slop.
@Lead1121
@Lead1121 Күн бұрын
I canceled like 4 of them and was shocked at how much I was paying
@jake12.48
@jake12.48 Күн бұрын
Or maybe just don't make a show about lezbo space witches
@ConnerMacKenzie
@ConnerMacKenzie Күн бұрын
Those stats don't take hate watchers into account and there were plenty of them
@rector0455
@rector0455 Күн бұрын
Yes they do, unless you mean those who sailed the high seas.
@ConnerMacKenzie
@ConnerMacKenzie Күн бұрын
@@rector0455 well obviously the views still count but they aren't being counted as hate watches is what I mean
@datguy3581
@datguy3581 Күн бұрын
Disney needs to make sure that they have good scripts before they devote a ton of money into these projects.
@HydratedBeans
@HydratedBeans Күн бұрын
Agreed. Star Wars is a world. The only thing that matters is “does this add to the world in a positive way?”
@rupertcrump1312
@rupertcrump1312 Күн бұрын
Even when they have what most people agree is a good script i.e. Andor, streaming is just a shit way to make money and they will lose a ton of it, production on 2 seasons of Andor now reportedly up to 650 million and climbing for 2 seasons, how do they recoup that from D+? Frankly they won't and can't. Disney+, Hulu, and ESPN+, turned a profit for the first time in the third quarter of 2024 and when you remove ESPN it made a loss. We need to go back to movies and actual real TV imo.
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave Күн бұрын
You mean their model of “announce project with current hit director/actor with no script in order to momentarily pump up stock value” doesn’t work beyond that quarter?
@joelt2002
@joelt2002 Күн бұрын
Next make sure they have competent producers/directors at the helm before green lighting any aspect of the shows.
@aimeeinkling
@aimeeinkling Күн бұрын
The problem is, Disney only knows how to do Disney (and they don't even do that as well as they used to). So, when you have them creating Star Wars or Marvel, the product, more often than not, is not something that long-time fans of the franchises are interested in.
@JoshParmesan
@JoshParmesan Күн бұрын
Acolyte was shite and it unfortunately brought down skeleton crew. Neel didn't deserve it
@UpcycleShoesKai
@UpcycleShoesKai Күн бұрын
yup. people didn't wanna get burned again
@rojaws1183
@rojaws1183 Күн бұрын
Yeah that’s the real loss in this whole mess.
@austinbaccus
@austinbaccus Күн бұрын
Ummm actually I read a post on r/StarWarsCantina who say it's the best show ever, so I don't know who to believe
@brianmarshall1762
@brianmarshall1762 Күн бұрын
⁠@@austinbaccusyeah….. about that 🤣
@lazymansload520
@lazymansload520 Күн бұрын
Do we know about Skeleton Crew’s future at this point?
@BuddhaJube
@BuddhaJube Күн бұрын
I mean the showrunners previous job was to schedule women to be SA'd by her boss. What did you expect?
@LiteDnBFnatic
@LiteDnBFnatic Күн бұрын
Skeleton Crew suffered the same fate Andor did. Skeleton Crew wasn't a bad show. Some mistakes and touch ups required? Sure, but it was a show you could just enjoy because you knew what it was from the jump. But the shows before Andor and Skeleton Crew killed any potential viewership for them. Andor is amazingly written, none of the other shows were written well, so when you have a show where the writing can be more lax, nobody cares about it.
@Valarius_J
@Valarius_J Күн бұрын
Andor was an amazing show, but I think its biggest hindrance was... no one really cared about Cassian Andor (before watching it.) He was a character that was just sort of there in Rogue One. Sure he was a Co-lead but he wasn't particularly interesting. I for example put off watching Andor for a long time simply because I wasn't that enthralled by Rogue One and had no interest in Andor's character. After hearing how good the show was, I gave it a watch and finally became invested.
@SignoftheMagi
@SignoftheMagi Күн бұрын
It feels like Disney wants to wash all the color, energy and life out of their shows. They feel dull, badly written, dark and lifeless. Where the hell is the color? The banter? The dynamic characters with bigger than life personalities? Star Wars is a SPACE OPERA. It needs to be big, bold, loud and colorful. Snark and wit are 90% of the dialogue. But now we have the same grey, poorly lit scenes with dull scenes and dull people and dull personalities doing dull things without any thought. Just remember to shove a lightsaber into a scene and let it go. The franchise has fallen on its face, and that's because Disney pushed it over.
@akolyt
@akolyt Күн бұрын
They tried to add humor to the sequel trilogy…
@Coroplocs-Chameleon
@Coroplocs-Chameleon Күн бұрын
B A D W R I T I N G
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob Күн бұрын
Somebody missed Skeleton Crew
@rhel373
@rhel373 Күн бұрын
I take it if that's your preference you hated Andor too?
@DarthB
@DarthB Күн бұрын
all of that and any semblance of a story has been wiped away by inclusivity (DEI) and activism (picking a fight on other peoples behalf). they dont care about story anymore. they pay themselves, their partners and their friends a stupid amout of money as well so they dont really care if it fails or not.
@KevinKoolx
@KevinKoolx Күн бұрын
Skeleton Crew was great. Though I can see how it's wouldn't grab people attention. We need some good Star Wars movies. Shows have taken over as the main medium of Star Wars content.
@daleford8621
@daleford8621 Күн бұрын
Disney just needs to get away from the entire ip.
@Herkules16
@Herkules16 Күн бұрын
As a Star Wars fan who regardless of my feelings towards the franchise and the handling of certain characters will at least try to watch and finish all the content they release. The marketing for Skeleton Crew did nothing to interest me and while the show itself ended up being significantly better than Acolyte and Obi-Wan Kenobi and it definitely had its moments it still was completely un-interesting to me and I think many Star Wars fans share my reasons. Its just not what I look for from Star Wars, when I watch Star Wars I want epic action to compliment a compelling sci-fi fantasy story and thats just not what i got from this, especially considering it's basic premise of kids/characters exploring the galaxy for the first time and getting acclimatized to life outside what they know has been done to death in the Disney era with Grogu, Omega, Rey, Finn (to an extent), Trace, etc. I think had this show come out 5 years ago it would have done better but with Star Wars struggling the way it is it just didn't give us enough of what fans love while breaking enough new ground to entice a larger audience. I don't think its a problem of the medium of streaming, just Lucasfilm consistently not listening to fans and delivering what they've clammering for so that they CAN branch out more like this.
@dayegilharno4988
@dayegilharno4988 Күн бұрын
As a first generation fan, the trilogy-model has been a liability from (and including) Episode VI. My personal Star wars all-weekender is Solo, Andor, Rogue one, Hope, Empire and TFA as a standalone.
@lesigh1749
@lesigh1749 Күн бұрын
@@Herkules16 it was your basic heroes journey of unlikely characters pitched into an adventure and growing along the way with a cast of villains out to thwart them from making it home and threatening to destroy their idyllic way of life. That's all classic star wars.
@9051team
@9051team Күн бұрын
I see where you are coming from, however i still respectfully disagree. Star wars is a world which i think is big enough to have nore than just one type of story. Its a whole galaxy, there is room for action yes, and lots of it, but theres also enough room for aby and all kinds of stories set in the universe. The issue with the recent project is quality... One bad project is one thing, but when the majority of your projects are bad it doesnt matter how good the next project is, its going to suffer.​@@Herkules16
@AttiraKell
@AttiraKell Күн бұрын
People will accept a lower production value feel for superior story telling. That is what we have not been getting in general,with a couple exceptions.
@homeboyjon4885
@homeboyjon4885 2 сағат бұрын
The persistence of Doctor Who has proven this.
@n1wakeboarder42
@n1wakeboarder42 Күн бұрын
I remember a time when we were just excited that Attack of the Clones was coming out. Another movie. Each prequel had its own criticism but held its own weight too. Then RoTS was hype af right? Then we just wanted more. Clone wars show watching each one when it aired. That was hype. What happened? I know Eck would rather just talk about how awesome the lore is, and not the mess of what it’s become 😢
@SeanMather
@SeanMather Күн бұрын
lol I find the Star Trek ad on a Star Wars video hilarious!
@Valarius_J
@Valarius_J Күн бұрын
I do genuinely feel that another facet of Acolyte's failure were the behavior of its Screenwriter and Star, particularly Leslye Headland and Amandla Stenberg. They seemed to go out of their way to antagonize fans, and when people were generally critical of the show they defaulted to the usual "You're just a bigot that hates women." Stenberg's comment in an interview that "making white men cry" was the point of the Acolyte as well absolutely didn't help either. That sort of antagonism would put off a lot of people from watching the show.
@BrassTheBarbarian
@BrassTheBarbarian Күн бұрын
Yeah as soon as i heard that, i just got rid of disney+. They clearly dont want my money. I was only keeping the subscription for sw. Marvel lost the plot a while ago. If the single property on the app has become hostile to me, i have no reason to watch.
@renaissancenovice7202
@renaissancenovice7202 Күн бұрын
That's been Disney's unbroken strategy since Rogue One when people complained about them swapping out Kyle Katarn for Jynn Urso.
@TommoBoyyo
@TommoBoyyo Күн бұрын
@@renaissancenovice7202 Counterpoint - The Owl House had a relatively popular fan-crew relationship, and was actually a very good show. Naturally, Disney cancelled it immediately.
@renaissancenovice7202
@renaissancenovice7202 Күн бұрын
@TommoBoyyo oof
@nolastname
@nolastname Күн бұрын
It's part of the problem BUT Acolyte was terrible in it's own without external drama. The story, the writing, the characters, the acting, the directing ... everything is globally bad. Sure, some nuggets of interest can be found here and there (like some fight) but few chocolate chips can't change the taste of a shit cake.
@fiktivhistoriker345
@fiktivhistoriker345 Күн бұрын
The Acolyte was bad. It had a fundamental flaw: they wanted to tell us, that the Jedi, respected if not loved by most of the fans, were actually the bad guys. But they showed them as caring and helpful, like Indara who died in the first episode because she protected an innocent bystander. At the same time, they showed the witches and Qimir as aggressive and manipulative. People often discuss the problem of "show, don't tell". This was a matter of "show vs. tell". The other characters indecisiveness and stupidity nailed the coffin.
@jakefoley9539
@jakefoley9539 Күн бұрын
But kotor 2 does the exact same thing and everybody loves it.
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 Күн бұрын
@@jakefoley9539 You didn't really read the comment, did you. KotOR2 SHOWED us the Jedi having lost their way, and fallen prey to their fear and traditional failings, as well as telling us that. It had a theme, and it stuck to it. The Acolyte TOLD us 'Jedi bad' and SHOWED us 'Jedi good'. Incompetence was the issue, not theme.
@jakefoley9539
@jakefoley9539 Күн бұрын
@@Blisterdude123 I never got the message "jedi bad". I felt like the show was trying to tell us they were flawed humans, and it did a decent job at showing that.
@rhel373
@rhel373 Күн бұрын
@@Blisterdude123 Meh. Kotor 2 is basically just Kreia spouting half understood Nietzsche cliff notes while the writers expect us to go "that's deep!"
@rhel373
@rhel373 Күн бұрын
@@jakefoley9539 That's how I saw it too. People trying to be good, but fucking up sometimes.
@cazperzero
@cazperzero Күн бұрын
In the end, the Book of Boba Fett was the biggest story disappointment to me. The choices they made for the character was just abysmal. They had a chance to do a brilliant crime or criminal series and failed to carry anything at all it was absolutely amateurish.
@RotalHenricsson
@RotalHenricsson Күн бұрын
trynna spin bad numbers on the strike instead of, you know, eternal price increases or more and more fracturing of viewerships by having to pay a new sub for every favorite show that used to be on Netflix is... a wild theory.
@666daemian
@666daemian Күн бұрын
Price increases for diminishing quality
@mittensfastpaw
@mittensfastpaw Күн бұрын
The lack of quality on shows like Obi-wan and The Acolyte hurt whatever comes after it. Nobody wants to jump into a universe bogged down by trash. Which is a real shame because shows like Andor and Skeleton Crew deserve the love. They really gotta stop putting out subpar things and only one season as well. People are starting to see it like Netflix stuff. Why invest when it won’t get a second season either at all or in a timely manner. Nobody cares when season 2 comes out two years later because they moved the hell on to other shows.
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable Күн бұрын
Mando season 3, Obi Wan, and the Acolyte are the reasons we don't trust Disney. These are the low quality slop shows we're talking about. There are others, like Ahsoka, She Hulk and Echo. But the three you mentioned weren't "Hurt" by other low quality productions. They were the low quality productions! FYI, when we say "Low quality", we aren't talking about special effects, acting or filming. We are talking about one thing: Writing. It's like these folk have never seen Star Wars before, and it shows.
@renaissancenovice7202
@renaissancenovice7202 Күн бұрын
I'd have gone back to before they released anything to when "they killed the EU", but better late than never.
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable
@Kahless_the_Unforgettable Күн бұрын
@renaissancenovice7202 My list was meant to demonstrative. Not comprehensive. I 100% agree. Almost every decision Disney made about Star Wars was the wrong decision. Mando Season 1 and 2 are decent, Rogue One is okay, but everything else has been bad (Skeleton Crew is okay also). I didn't mention Andor. Because I don't understand what the fans saw in that show. It was boring and joyless.
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 Күн бұрын
Acolyte tried to deconstruct Star Wars while Skeleton Crew stayed true to the spirit of Star Wars. Streaming doesn't seem as profitable as five years ago.
@Skuggihestur
@Skuggihestur Күн бұрын
Its easy. I can't remember a single name from acolyte. I can remember the kids names from skeleton crew.
@mikepatton8691
@mikepatton8691 5 сағат бұрын
I still maintain that Kathleen Kennedy must have some primo dirt on the Disney execs, that is the only explanation on how she still has a job. Her level of failure and the amount of money she has lost Disney is probably unprecedented in the entertainment industry. It's not even just Star Wars she has tanked, you also have to look at the dismal financial disaster of the last Indiana Jones movie and the Willow sequel that was such an epic fail that they removed it from their own streaming service. I dare anyone to explain, logically and rationally, how she remains in charge of Lucasfilm.
@judet2992
@judet2992 Күн бұрын
“Shocking new viewer data” Shocking when everyone said it was shit, didn’t watch it, shitted on it, complained about how bad it was and they’re shocked it barely had any viewers.
@tjs114
@tjs114 22 сағат бұрын
Acolyte's problems were easy to see: 1) Poor Writing, 2) Poor Acting, 3) Poor Directing. The entire show had about the same 'quality' as a mini-show from Sid & Mary Krofft 'Krofft Supershow' circa 1976.
@666daemian
@666daemian Күн бұрын
The one thread running through all disneys failures is shit storytelling
@tosnif6247
@tosnif6247 6 сағат бұрын
The Acolyte wasn't mediocre, it was absolutely terrible.
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375 Күн бұрын
I want a reset. I'm just not interested anymore. Disney star wars is rotten to the core, and I was never able to recover from the disgusting mess that was the Book of Boba Fett. I'm done. Just done. Reset or sell, because otherwise, I don't know that star wars and I have a future. I'm just so sick and tired to being antagonized and disappointed.
@s70driver2005
@s70driver2005 Күн бұрын
Ok but Andor. Andor though.
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375 Күн бұрын
@@s70driver2005 Andor is alright...but I don't care about the guy. Andor was never a compelling character to me, he's boring. SO FUCKING BORING! I don't care about his contaminated home world, I don't care about him stealing thing and running around. I could never get past the Episode where he escapes his hometown because it left me numb with boredom. He's not fun or cool, everything is so drab and slow, and while I can appreciate it at some level, its not what I want for Star WARS. Give me armies! Give me Generals! Give me heroes! Give me special forces, orbital invasions, Space Combat on a massive scale! Give me motherfucking battles, and skirmishes, retreats, feints, and ambushes. Give me fucking WAR in my Star Wars! I never found Andor compelling despite its quality, I've gone too long without Star Wars before it, and that show does not scratch my itch at all. I don't care about the corporate authority, I don't fucking care about the piping on Officer Asshole's suit. I don't care about Andor's girlfriend, or unfair work hours, or old ladies funerals. All of that can come AFTER I've seen something worth watching. I want to see the New Republic face new Galactic contenders, not repeat the past like it didn't happen. I want to see leaders of armies vying with the ethical challenges of invading or defending their factions in a real armed conflict. No more fucking rebels sneaking around, I want an actual war between powers worthy of the name. I want the Jedi to be challenged by what comes AFTER the sith, and how that challenge manifests. I Want Star Wars, not just some story told in the Star Wars Universe. I want War Among the Stars, for compelling and powerful reasons. I want resource conflicts, schemes and ambitions for conquest. I want alien armies and new Dominance cultures to challenge the borders of what our heroes have fought to create or preserve. Andor...is not worth everything that has come with it, not even a little bit, not even close. Andor is alright, its good. But its a feather on a scale filled with 10 pounds of literal shit. It does not make the difference I need.
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375 Күн бұрын
@@s70driver2005 In short, Andor is good. But a Billion Light years from being good enough.
@Joey-gb2qx
@Joey-gb2qx Күн бұрын
“They need to tear it all down and start over just for me, the most important viewer” 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375 Күн бұрын
@ Oh I'm not allowed to voice a damn opinion? If Star Wars was thriving, You'd never hear the words. But news flash Joey, its not. and its not for good reason. Its BORING. If you like it, then good for you, but your preferences bore me, and the majority of the old fanbase and audience. What, should we stay the course and keep it as drab as dirt, just for you Joe?
@Ludo-r8b
@Ludo-r8b Күн бұрын
I couldn't even finish pirating it from how boring it was
@wickdaline8668
@wickdaline8668 Күн бұрын
The other shows were magnum opuses in comparison.
@jasperxmaster9703
@jasperxmaster9703 Күн бұрын
For kanobi I wouldn't say the quality was the issue. It was the goofiness and bait and switch. Might as well call it reva.
@androssthered1157
@androssthered1157 Күн бұрын
Yeah the "quality" that was in question was the plot and writing.... not the CGI
@RandomBitzzz
@RandomBitzzz Күн бұрын
...and that could've been ok, if Reva had been portrayed better. I couldn't tell if it was bad acting, bad writing, or both - but Reva could have been waaay better than what we got.
@jasperxmaster9703
@jasperxmaster9703 Күн бұрын
@RandomBitzzz I don't care about her character. I felt like they could've just focused on Kanobi more. Cause you know it was named Kanobi.
@mudman619
@mudman619 Күн бұрын
@@jasperxmaster9703 as opposed to "Kenobi"
@RandomBitzzz
@RandomBitzzz Күн бұрын
@@jasperxmaster9703 if you go down that road then they should have called it Leia.
@fremenchips
@fremenchips Күн бұрын
I actually think having big budgets is one of things that's hurting Star Wars. If a show has a huge it's a huge investment which means the people with the money are going to want to make that investment as safe as possible. When budgets are smaller it allows more creative freedom because the studio isn't betting the farm so they let weirder ideas through.
@adamb89
@adamb89 Күн бұрын
0:24 I got Men in Tights vibes there. "Maybe if you tell me the bad news in a good way, it won't seem so bad..."
@pfeilspitze
@pfeilspitze 6 сағат бұрын
"But this is terrible news!" 😜
@someonefromthefuture5269
@someonefromthefuture5269 Күн бұрын
The Acolyte wasn't mediocre, it was outright terrible. Most viewers had this opinion I think, based on the sheer drop in numbers a few episodes in.
@lordwilfried117
@lordwilfried117 Күн бұрын
0:42 TRAITOR!!!
@Shmozone
@Shmozone Күн бұрын
I like how the walking dead was considered insanely expensive at about ten million per episode the first season (i might be misremembering the exact amount but it was a lot less than even kenobi)
@Toxin485
@Toxin485 23 сағат бұрын
bruh, the acolyte was lore breaking, tf you mean you dont know why
@karnematch
@karnematch 22 сағат бұрын
New and casual viewers wont know that
@connor_phillipz5689
@connor_phillipz5689 Күн бұрын
I just hope Disney loses enough money with Star Wars to the point that they're forced to make drastic changes. As long as KK and everyone associated with her is in charge Star Wars will never climb out of the hole it is in.
@HydratedBeans
@HydratedBeans Күн бұрын
The bigger problem is Disney, imo. I don’t think even George Lucas can save it at this point.
@PaulXPZ
@PaulXPZ Күн бұрын
@@HydratedBeans And yet it would be soo easy. Erase the sequels from canon, adapt the Thrawn trilogy books(with some necessary changes to fit into the lore established by the prequels). What's that I hear you say? The OG cast is too old/dead? RECAST THEM!
@StarWarsomania
@StarWarsomania Күн бұрын
@@PaulXPZ lol, you think there is any chance of some of the most famous characters in film history getting recast. Any chance of doing anything with these characters died in 2013 when they refused to use their legacy characters correctly and create the films Lucas sketched out for them for a sequel trilogy. Just bury it already “He’s already de@d!”
@MultiSpeedMetal
@MultiSpeedMetal Күн бұрын
When you make a mess of canon like that there's no fixing it besides retconning everything and starting over.
@rhel373
@rhel373 Күн бұрын
@@PaulXPZ You're delusional.
@Scimarad
@Scimarad 7 сағат бұрын
It's such a shame Skeleton Crew didn't do better. It's one of the best Star War things ever, alongside Andor. I do hope more people watch it due to word of mouth but knowing Disney they'll just remove it from the app.
@darthtripedacus1
@darthtripedacus1 Күн бұрын
Sadly find no joy in Star Wars anymore.
@Nitz82
@Nitz82 Күн бұрын
The Crapolyte is the worst star wars ever produced, right ahead of Ep8, and most of the book of boba 7:03.
@mm-yt8sf
@mm-yt8sf Күн бұрын
i wouldn't worry about star wars execs. if they still have jobs by now they'll never be fired.
@Berethruu
@Berethruu Күн бұрын
Greatest tragedy for Acolyte was the death of Jeckli. I felt like she was one of the only characters that had places to go, followed closely by Yord - He was starting to pull that stick out of his behind. But these are only two bad notes in an entire orchestral arrangement of bad notes =/
@TheJiminatorHS
@TheJiminatorHS Күн бұрын
yeah its kind of amazing the show was focused on easily the worst characters in the cast; the twins.
@mouthbreather781
@mouthbreather781 Күн бұрын
No, no thats not it.
@majorlazor5058
@majorlazor5058 21 сағат бұрын
I dont think most people cared about that character. She was barely fleshed out.
@XD-kw2nq
@XD-kw2nq Күн бұрын
they really should've followed George's vision now they pay the price for their ignorance
@RubbishGimpy
@RubbishGimpy Күн бұрын
George was going blind which is why he sold it all.
@XD-kw2nq
@XD-kw2nq Күн бұрын
@RubbishGimpy pfft nah he sold it cuz he wanted to be with his family
@EricMcConnaughey
@EricMcConnaughey Күн бұрын
George sold it because he was like 70 or 72 and wasn't sure he'd live long enough to complete a whole sequel trilogy, which takes abt 10-12 years if you do it RIGHT. I think he even had outlines for all three movies, which DEIsney, in their infinite stupidity, tossed thinking they knew better than THE GUY WHO CREATED THE WHOLE FUCKING FRANCHISE.
@lordcypher7922
@lordcypher7922 Күн бұрын
The acolyte was bad and this affected the skeleton crew which was actually a refreshing change.
@member0900
@member0900 Күн бұрын
Really surprised to see a sponsored Star Trek spot. I’d love to see some Star Trek videos, if you ever feel up to it. Your lore and ship breakdowns are always great, I think they’d transfer well to ST.
@cardiac19
@cardiac19 Күн бұрын
I love the irony of a Star Trek game ad for a Star Wars video. It's perfect.
@cd5sircoupe
@cd5sircoupe Күн бұрын
Damn, the Acolyte was actually around $230m? I thought it was like $180m... that makes it even worse. You may not think so but I thought this show looked horrible in terms of the cgi. Especially scenes like the ship in action flying somewhere. I will say the entirely pointless scene with the planetary rings looked great, but that's about the only praise I can give it. Skeleton Crew's cgi looked infinitely better in my opinion and I stand by my statement that The Acolyte was a money laundering operation.
@eeveeofalltrades4780
@eeveeofalltrades4780 Күн бұрын
Skeleton Crew didn't use that much CGI, hence why it looks better
@cd5sircoupe
@cd5sircoupe Күн бұрын
@@eeveeofalltrades4780 I would have to say it used more than Acolyte did.
@DarthB
@DarthB Күн бұрын
it probably cost a lot more than that, disney like to play fast and loose with numbers
@floriantieger491
@floriantieger491 Күн бұрын
6:59 Not so bad? It's perhaps the worst video product I've ever seen. The characters behaved as they wanted and were very badly acted, the story was a mess, the sets were loveless, the camera only did its absolute minimum and tje show did extreme damage to the lore.
@RealBelisariusCawl
@RealBelisariusCawl Күн бұрын
Disney has gotten me _dangerously close_ to the point of not caring about Star Wars any more.
@tywinlannister8015
@tywinlannister8015 Күн бұрын
I no longer care. Like for Star Trek I am happy to pretend not much if anything new exists.
@3-2bravo49
@3-2bravo49 Күн бұрын
I am there. I can't even watch the old stuff anymore
@tylerworrell4446
@tylerworrell4446 Күн бұрын
It's had the opposite effect on me. It's made me appreciate the pre-Disney Star Wars content so much more. I've been getting into reading the legends content that disney decanonized. There's a lot of good material there to keep me entertained and I personally don't accept the sequel movies as canon anymore.
@BrassTheBarbarian
@BrassTheBarbarian Күн бұрын
Already there sadly. I still enjoy old content. Still probably gonna play the next jedi game and watch andor, but aside from that, ive checked out. Same with halo. I just dont care much about the new stuff. Not disney, but same concept.
@general8191
@general8191 Күн бұрын
Besides Mandalorian and Andor I just completely ignore all their star wars content. I still enjoy a lot of the pre Disney stuff and the legends timeline a lot more than the crap Disney made. I used to be really excited about new Star Wars shows. Now I couldn't care less. I'll definitely watch Andor season 2 but I won't bother with the rest anymore. The world is too expensive to pay for a subscription to terrible shows.
@treadstone1138
@treadstone1138 22 сағат бұрын
The Acolyte was Star Wars in name only.
@Zakk_Zero
@Zakk_Zero Күн бұрын
Disney needs to focus on one streaming series at a time, as well as only one movie at a time. It has diluted the quality of SW content by spamming movies and shows not well thought out. Plus, it is now dividing the SW fanbase like never before. That was unthinkable from 1977 to 1999. Yeah, the Prequels started a rift, but Disney is now ripping it wide open.
@mrlopez7518
@mrlopez7518 18 сағат бұрын
Acolyte crashed with bad fake acting and shit house story. Starwars has to stop with every story being about a girls lost life and struggle, mando did great cause it’s aggressive like a man , they just make better stories. Andor same it was great. Skeleton crew was shit because it was about kids , if they replaced the crew with adults ( who are the majority of viewers of starwars) it would have kicked arse. Disney your trying to attract an age demographic who has an attention span of a gold fish, grownups are the ones who you need.
@GonzoTehGreat
@GonzoTehGreat Күн бұрын
The Acolyte was complete garbage. There was nothing notable about the show and it would not have received the attention it did if it wasn't marketed as Star Wars. Lucasfilm has a serious quality control problem. Experimental shows like this should start with several (pilot) episodes on a relatively small budget and only if these are popular, should they consider producing more.
@metroidnerd9001
@metroidnerd9001 Күн бұрын
I find it crazy that, at this point, animated shows are seemingly less expensive than live-action ones. You would think having to animate 100% of all the visuals would be expensive, but I guess when live-action is 50% animated at this point, and that animation needs to look like real life, it starts to make more sense.
@AntonThirdEye
@AntonThirdEye Күн бұрын
Hiring people based on how they look and who they are attracted to, rather than their merit and passion for the IP results in projects that focus on how people look and attracted to and not their merits.
@rector0455
@rector0455 Күн бұрын
You don't have more likes because ecks audience is part of the problem.
@luckykennedy7364
@luckykennedy7364 Күн бұрын
I'm gonna be honest. They need to take a few years off and focus on making some really good stuff if they wanna see some returns.
@SuperLocrian
@SuperLocrian Күн бұрын
I'm just surprised by the "low" minutes of view time for Agatha All Along...
@mittensfastpaw
@mittensfastpaw Күн бұрын
The MCU is suffering from the same issues as Star Wars. They’ve put out so much garbage the brand is tainted. People aren’t tuning in for the really good series after being burned so much by the trash shows.
@SuperLocrian
@SuperLocrian Күн бұрын
@mittensfastpaw so happy someone talked me into watching Andor! I still can't convince my best friend to watch it - he's done!
@grankmisguided
@grankmisguided Күн бұрын
I have so far refused to watch Agatha because I fucking hate that trite little song they named it after. 🤷‍♂️
@DarthB
@DarthB Күн бұрын
Agatha All Along has low viewing minutes because it was just as terrible if not worse than the acolyte.
@renaissancenovice7202
@renaissancenovice7202 Күн бұрын
If you're surprised by that, you need new sources, because your old ones aren't informing you.
@doltsbane
@doltsbane Күн бұрын
People who are passionate about their work inspire passion in the fans, people who think in terms of IP and viewer demographics inspire boredom. If you're contemptuous of the viewers and assume that they're stupid cattle who will placidly consume whatever fodder is put before them then they will be just as contemptuous of you and your products. That's equally true for Star Trek, the MCU, Lord of the Rings, and whatever other franchise you care to name.
@brycevo
@brycevo Күн бұрын
2:51 Mixed? Mixed? Someone's trying to stay on Disney's good side. It was almost entirely panned by the consumer base. The only people who liked it were payed by Disney.
@caralambson
@caralambson Күн бұрын
Who is getting paid to enjoy shows? Where can I sign up to make extra cash by just watching streaming slop? Sounds like a nice gig...
@Isometrix116
@Isometrix116 Күн бұрын
At this point, I really just want Disney to realize that they have a ton of money and can totally afford to make risky projects that don't pan out. Especially in the age of streaming, this can be an absolute gold mine because a show may do terrible upon release, but then 3 years later, people rediscover it and it explodes in popularity and brings countless people to your platform Having insane amounts of money should insulate you from having to make short term choices. Yet, Disney is acting like they are gonna go bankrupt every quarter and are barely scraping by. They have yearly profits in the tens of billion (not revenue - profit) and it increases year over year every year. I know people are gonna be silly and pretend it is because of CEO bonuses or something, but that isn't the reason. The reason is that they are so focused on quarterly reports that they ignore the year or 5 year period or 10 year period. I think the problem is that all of the experience and knowledge focuses on short term because that is how most companies have to function, but Disney gets to be an exception. I just want them to embrace it.
@ryanweiss729
@ryanweiss729 Күн бұрын
Damn...Star Trek advertising on a SW video is a power move 😂
@rector0455
@rector0455 Күн бұрын
Not really, Star Trek is in an even worse state than Star Wars is currently, if you can even believe that.
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 Күн бұрын
​@@rector0455 No Star wars is in much worse shape. Disney took the time to crap all over Luke, Han and Leia. Where is Star Trek is not crapping all over their legacy characters.
@aimeeinkling
@aimeeinkling Күн бұрын
@@rector0455 Are you kidding? Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds are some of the best Trek we've had in decades.
@LeftJoystick
@LeftJoystick Күн бұрын
Disney Star Wars turned me into a Trekkie. I have no shame in admitting it. Not the newer shows like STD (Star Trek: Discovery - great acronym, you idi0ts lol), but TNG, DS9, and even Voyager and Enterprise are all so enjoyable. Admittedly, I don't like the Original series THAT much, but I do like it from a historical context. :D
@JB-1138
@JB-1138 Күн бұрын
@@LeftJoystick Kind of in the same boat here. I used to always prioritize Star wars over Star Trek although I like both of them. And these days I heavily gravitate towards Star Trek over Star Wars. I have not watched Picard or Star Trek Discovery.
@BrandonDenny-we1rw
@BrandonDenny-we1rw 9 сағат бұрын
They should have just fired the writers when they striked. They arent producing anything worthwhile anyways.
@sundragon7703
@sundragon7703 Күн бұрын
Maybe Disney/Marvel/Star Wars should take at least a page or two out of the Japanese playbook. For years, Japanese live action and animated media generally have small budgets for their projects compared to US big studio project budgets. I am not saying Disney should be making anime. What I am saying Disney needs to squeeze blood from a stone and produce well written scripts with flushed out characters. The poster child example is Godzilla Minus One. 10-15 million bucks to make that made around $113-114 million outside of Japan.
@renaissancenovice7202
@renaissancenovice7202 Күн бұрын
The difference is, Japan makes those projects for the fans, Disney makes Star Wars for the "Modern Audience" and that killed Star Wars.
@jamesthemuchless
@jamesthemuchless Күн бұрын
I think part of the problem streaming has is the low quality of storytelling. When they lean into the idea of shows as background noise rather than as something worth putting your phone down for, they produce garbage that people just aren't as interested in watching. These big productions should be designed with compelling stories. Social media like KZbin and Tiktok provide plenty of background noise content. Streaming services should provide main even content.
@majorlazor5058
@majorlazor5058 21 сағат бұрын
Most streaming shows are better than the average show from the 90’s and 80’s. I’d watch Acolyte over “10 is enough” or “Kung Fu the legend Continues” any day of the week.
@Blue-Tiger-u7s
@Blue-Tiger-u7s Күн бұрын
Streaming has broken up viewership probably worse than the days of cable TV. It used to be you'd just need Prime or Netflix to view most shows. Now you need streaming accounts on HBO, Paramount, Disney, and who knows what else. Too many services, too many shows, not enough quality or interesting material. I've heard all about shows I've never seen, mostly because it's a past time to bash Star Wars at this point. Seriously I can't see spending that much money to try and catch shows that don't seem worth it.
@wcarcass
@wcarcass 21 сағат бұрын
Skeleton Crew is pure fun, loved every episode... On the other hand, Acolyte was utter junk, pretentious, cheap looking, lazy, and boring.
@popcornfilms1
@popcornfilms1 Күн бұрын
Huh, seems hiring people who despise and detract from the IP isn’t a good idea- who’da thunk?
@rhel373
@rhel373 Күн бұрын
Are these people in the room with us?
@DarthB
@DarthB Күн бұрын
well they thought insulting the fanbase before the show was even out (male and pale is stale and the like) was a good idea so they definitely aren't the smartest and blaming us for it failing when we were told 'its not for you' and 'dont bother watching it' so we didnt.
@Valarius_J
@Valarius_J Күн бұрын
@@rhel373 Yes, I hear such people are currently butchering The Witcher. But in all seriousness, the Screenwriter and Amandla Stenberg have had little but vitriol for anyone with an even remotely critical opinion of the show. Leslye Headland tends to go out of her way to antagonize original Star Wars fans.
@renaissancenovice7202
@renaissancenovice7202 Күн бұрын
Not Disney, obviously.
@TommoBoyyo
@TommoBoyyo Күн бұрын
@@renaissancenovice7202 You know, the confusing part is when people who want to make "Woke" (I hate to use this word in conversation, but it gets the job done) shows get a chance, they are invariable thrown under busses almost immediately. Source: The Owl House. A creative, fresh, exciting, well made, well written show, which people would almost positively call "woke", which had a committed and excited fanbase.... Good viewership. 31.50 times the average demand for a Disney+ series. One of the most in-demand shows on Disney+ in 2022. Sixth most streamed show in the United States when the final season aired.... And Disney cancelled it. My conspiracy theory is that it's because Disney doesn't want to do animation anymore and it was the last 'loose end' left to tie down. But the simple fact is this. Disney doesn't want "Woke" shows, either.
@martinbergen2963
@martinbergen2963 11 сағат бұрын
In my opinion, star wars is the easiest franchise to generate money. Don't go astray from the source and give the fans something of the regular formula, add some nostalgia and you win. Creating something that isn't for the fans is just ridiculous in itself, like Creating a products for Aliens and selling them to humans 😂
@dogloversrule8476
@dogloversrule8476 Күн бұрын
Disney really needs to go home & rethink its life before coming out with new content
@politenonparticipant4859
@politenonparticipant4859 Күн бұрын
A large part of the appeal with Star Wars is the lived-in setting. It's a science fantasy sort of setting where everything is mostly strange to the audience except the characters who still mostly feel like normal people, while the characters themselves don't act confused by or uncomfortable with the technology around them. That sense of alien familiarity and normal people caught up in something bigger than themselves is absent from the more modern Star Wars where characters are bland badasses lacking humanity. I miss the feel of the setting and depth of character as much as the lack of consistency with the OT canon. That's three solid reasons I've avoided Disney Star Wars like the plague since the Last Jedi was released.
@chrisreilly1290
@chrisreilly1290 Күн бұрын
Man, that sucks. I loved the show and thought it could go in some really interesting directions in season 2
@Adrian-nj6bx
@Adrian-nj6bx Күн бұрын
Loved??
@rmy1003
@rmy1003 11 сағат бұрын
Acolyte was very bad, didn't keep any story line and star-war world. just poor.
@BarbsBasement
@BarbsBasement Күн бұрын
I enjoyed aspects of the Acolyte. I legit think that the Stranger is one of the best characters introduced to the franchise under Disney. He didn’t turn back to the light, he wasn’t related to anyone special, he has no redeeming qualities because he’s a Sith. He’s fundamentally selfish. Him mercilessly killing all of those Jedi really showed what a Sith has to do when backed into a corner. The rest I could take or leave. The flashbacks should have been majorly cut down to allow for more on screen flipping of teams.
@mouthbreather781
@mouthbreather781 Күн бұрын
Gay
@rupertcrump1312
@rupertcrump1312 Күн бұрын
Agreed, and Manny Jacinto was on point with his performance too. Its a shame that Amandla Stenberg was not as good given how much screentime she had and that frankly the writing was really poor for the show as I would have loved more of Jacinto and his character, especially in a better production.
@jakefoley9539
@jakefoley9539 Күн бұрын
@@mouthbreather781 Username checks out
@hylianchriss
@hylianchriss Күн бұрын
Sure, but you know Disney tried to make him "morally ambiguous" rather than irredeemable. They tried to make the Jedi the bad guys, rather than the Stranger fundamentally selfish. On paper many of the ideas for this show could have been amazing. I was super hyped when this show was revealed. But IMO they dropped the ball at every instance on the implementation
@lesigh1749
@lesigh1749 Күн бұрын
Alas he is also the self insert of the morally ambiguous writers trying to subvert the notion that good really exists and insisting the villains are just misunderstood.
@Flynn01979
@Flynn01979 Күн бұрын
I think mainly, what's happening is people are becoming burnt out on streaming. The market is just over saturated.
@PsychotoasterProd
@PsychotoasterProd Күн бұрын
6:24 - Solid disagree here. The jungle planet clearly looked like was shot on a soundstage.
@pete6705
@pete6705 Күн бұрын
I agree, the sets looked like crap to me
@Zyzyx442
@Zyzyx442 Күн бұрын
Ahsoka and Andor are awesome shows and additions to the SW universe, just make good star wars, it's not hard, just don't hire jerks to direct or write the shows. Just give Filoni complete creative control and Star Wars will bring back the money.
@AndrewAce.
@AndrewAce. Күн бұрын
They didn't put their best foot forward. And until they do, this will continue...
@JohnAlthaus-jz8bo
@JohnAlthaus-jz8bo Күн бұрын
The show was a sin against starwars. Not god.
@Omegaroth666
@Omegaroth666 Күн бұрын
Sponsored by THE ENEMY 1:32
@rector0455
@rector0455 Күн бұрын
You mean Disney?
@averykersjes3270
@averykersjes3270 Күн бұрын
the chuckle at 3:23 was really funny
@SerapisMichaels501
@SerapisMichaels501 Күн бұрын
The issue is they are not listing to the fan base, we want Old Republic, we want Sith focused, we want band of brothers style clone wars.
@fieldzy743
@fieldzy743 Күн бұрын
Even band of brothers style empire/rebels stuff would be good.
@RogueWJL
@RogueWJL 12 сағат бұрын
Skeleton Crew was great.. I feel so sorry for the vast and the production crew and hope the execs give it another chance. I actually enjoyed Boba Fett until it went away from the main thrust of the story The Mando insert was unnecessary. Andor was stunning. As for Acolyte, I will not be lectured morales by Hedland, and I think her appointment as showrunner was Kennedy firing a warning shot at Bob Iger Bob needs to grow some-Kennedy appointing Headland was an own goal
@chadwickhjones
@chadwickhjones Күн бұрын
The single thing wrong with Acolyte is that the story was shit. If the story is bad, acting, special effects, set, music, etc doesn’t matter.
@chadwickhjones
@chadwickhjones Күн бұрын
Skeleton Crew is same
@leonardobroza6298
@leonardobroza6298 Күн бұрын
Skeleton Crew managed to look far better than Acolyte with a fraction of the budget.
@TheFuri0uswc
@TheFuri0uswc Күн бұрын
Disney giving up Netflix deal was a critical mistake. They can't compete with Netflix in viewer base and loyalty.
@comchia4306
@comchia4306 Күн бұрын
0:45 Ironic.
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