The Air Defense Anti Tank System 'ADATS' Overview - DUAL-PURPOSE MISSILE HUNTER 📡

[@silence.9376]

*"The human brain is the most complex structure in the whole entire universe"* _-Human Brain_

[@Waltuuuh]

Yeah thats why we kill each other because we smart...

[@FLORATOSOTHON]

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[@XEyedN00b]

"and then there's ADATS

[@tamaslapsanszki8744]

I keep finding Matsimus' comments on random videos on youtube, for example on CRAM footage, toy train videos, etc. And it's heartwarming to see many other fans of him recognizing him in comments of those videos. We are such a nice community

[@_Matsimus_]

Thank you 🙂

[@peterchampagney4990]

@@_Matsimus_ I was so surprised to see your comment on the squad launch trailer, and then I realized its matsimus, of course he has good taste in video games, just like everything else especially military equipment.

[@peterchampagney4990]

Also if anyone is looking for a squad server that is organized and hard-core without being over the top id look for the tcg server when its on. Its not been very active lately but I think it's going to change once V2 releases especially because our ARMA milsim unit just reduced our number of ops per week so I have a feeling most of us will be playing a lot more squad.

[@dainguyen2733]

saw him on banned inc. videos and up 2

[@mindexpansionpuzzles]

I saw him on a Pad Chennington video.

[@Chaydex]

Ah yes the ADATS, the Anti DAT Shit machine

[@WaterWolf11]

Ah yes another russian badger watcher

[@kameronjones7139]

Russian badger

[@Chaydex]

@@kameronjones7139 Yes

[@danieltsiprun8080]

I just saw the russian badgers clip about that and i can't stop laughing.

[@kameronjones7139]

@@Chaydex man of culture I see

[@Memento-_-Mori-_-982]

It would have been perfect for today's battlefield with drones, this would have been a great drone defense system.

[@ironstarofmordian7098]

Indeed

[@dickmelsonlupot7697]

Until *SWARMS* become a thing. The best defense against drones would most likely be guns (specifically multi-guns) not rockets.

[@lardthing7417]

@@dickmelsonlupot7697 I would say directed energy weapons, like a high powered laser or microwave, would be a better.

[@jarink1]

Kind of large, complex and expensive for anti-drone work.

[@AKAtheA]

doubt it...the gigantic shaped charge warhead will never perform as well as a pure fragmentation warhead against small targets

[@treadheadpete4770]

Canadian... it works... it is really cool... it got cancelled... sounds familiar!

[@lardthing7417]

@KISHANTH JEYAMOORTHY wait the Canadians tried to make an aircraft carrier *AND* a nuclear submarine?

[@davad8042]

The ADATS was a American program but I agree justice for the arrow!!

[@davad8042]

@KISHANTH JEYAMOORTHY I looked into it more and I think your right. While it appears the American military had a hand in it, it was designed and built by Oerlikon.

[@viper29ca]

Not really that it got cancelled, just that the cold war ended, which is really what these were designed for.

[@viper29ca]

@@lardthing7417 Aircraft carriers were all X British carriers. HMCS Warrior, HMCS Magnificent, and HMCS Bonaventure

[@tacticalmanatee]

There was a planned version of the M1 Abrams (the M1 AGDS Air Ground Defense System) with twin 35mm autocannon and 12 ADATS missiles in armored pop-up launchers. It's one of the coolest looking armored vehicles I've ever seen.

[@asianlardex6373]

the adats stands for anti-dat shit whatever that shit is

[@Viccaro7]

Came here to make that same joke, nice.

[@jordancarmichael7901]

ADATS would like to know your location

[@Osean_Kitty]

*Points at something* Dat shit

[@cloudysoup9056]

Russian badger intensive

[@Nikolai....]

I saw him on a creepy AI dentist video.

[@BC-li6zc]

Thanks for the video. It brought back some memories for this retired gunner. I was a operator and detachment commander for this system for about 14 years. If you have questions just ask.

[@thamwaikeong5885]

The laser - was it a SACLOS system and had to be kept manually on the target, or was it slaved to the search radar and automatically locked on., like a tracking/missile guidance radar ?

[@BC-li6zc]

@@thamwaikeong5885 The Gunner had to manually keep the crosshairs on target using FLIR and the cameras. When a possible target was detected by radar and designated by the radar operator. The turret would automatically spin around to that bearing. Where it would be acquired and identified by the Gunner manually.

[@piterkristianto5647]

why the military don't develop more this technology because I think by using this weapons you can attack air and ground target with one device? what is the weakness so the military retire this weapon?

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

A....ADATS? *[Sudden War Thunder flashbacks]*

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

The famous anti-everything YEET machine !

[@steelgear3876]

Spawns in "Black Shark"......ADATS would like to know to your location

[@touchgrass7078]

@@steelgear3876 ADATS already knows your location ¬‿¬

[@radonsider9692]

My biggest enemy in a leopard 2a6

[@raychn8783]

I have bigger flash backs of my ADATS getting targeted by a ATGM plane and a Uragan in Wargame red dragon

[@ottovonbearsmark8876]

In the wise words of Russian Badger: A.D.A.T.S. stands for Anti. D.A.T. Shit. Whatever DAT shit happens to be.

[@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275]

You take your right index finger, point it at literally anything. *"DAT SHIT"*

[@jim99west46]

Adats perfect for upgrades! Utterly brilliant.

[@paez4779]

I've always wondered why we never had a fully dedicated mobile AA system.. that would have been great on the Bradley

[@LordEd21-21]

we Had the budget M6 line backer.

[@paez4779]

@@LordEd21-21 yeah but that wasn't the same

[@LordEd21-21]

@@paez4779 well it had Stingers for air craft and a 25mm for ground targets as well as low flying air craft. Hell the US new AA the IM-SHORAD is basically both in one using Stingers, Hellfires and a 25mm. Edit sorry IM-SHORAD uses a 30mm

[@paez4779]

@@LordEd21-21 yeah the ADA Line Backer Bradley was cool but was not as capable as this.. I'm glad to see we have the SHORAD now.

[@viper29ca]

@@LordEd21-21 Stingers is not even remotely the same. IR tracking only, easily defeated, slower, and 1/4 the range. Attack helo would have the assets your trying to protect obliterated before even coming into Stinger range.

[@holeshotshane6344]

Dude that was sick you can actually see the missile right before impacting that f86 target plane from it's on board camera

[@napolean2160]

One of my favorite units in Wargame Red Dragon

[@AN_PVS-2]

Same that thing is a beast against cocky SEAD planes

[@duckman12569]

gr8 game OP unit

[@malusignatius]

The Canucks need something to make up for the rest of their lineup :P (Well, to be fair their infantry's rock-solid, but their tanks are not so good.)

[@governorofthedeathstar1680]

Love these videos about tanks and air defense. Keep up the great work, mate. Salute!!

[@robandcheryls]

I worked around these in the 90’s 🇨🇦 loved it.

[@charms1vp]

As always Mats great video, if a little bittersweet. I had some exposure to the ADATS in the Cdn Army as Mech Inf (1PPCLI). In 2005, 4 AD Regt brought their vehs out to CFB Edmonton to trial a new integration concept for the system in the Army moving forward (asymmetric warfare). I don't know what canned the ADATS but the last time I saw it deployed was in 2012 on a Combat Team Commanders Crse in CFB Wainwright. A buddy of mine in 4 AD said it was the last time they would be used before they were retired. 4 AD Regt now is largely UAV/target acquisition or was before I retired. Definite loss of capability, the ADATS would be a capable asset to Canadian and NATO units deployed in the Baltic States.

[@snoman003]

It was a doomed system given the chassis it was mounted on and the Orlikon $ markup on the cost of parts. Even back then, we said it needed to be mounted on a heavier chassis (Leo 1 or 2?) , due to vibration and torsional loads due to turret rotation.

[@nickc7320]

this is my favorite non-tank war thunder vehicle. I love just knocking out zoomy boies

[@seafieldgrant6957]

I purchased all the mechanical parts for the FLIR system incredible tight tolerance's also bought the casting that held the FLIR forward looking infrared system.

[@pbr-streetgang]

Thanks for the vid sir.👍🏼👍🏼

[@davidedward10]

I remember touring this system on one of our Air Cadet trips to CFB cold lake. Watching the CF-18s fly around on the FLIR actually kinda cool.

[@Kaldosthesergal]

Thank you so much for covering this system. There's definitely not a lot of information on this system. Also, has mat done a video on the Tunguska?

[@AN_PVS-2]

He has

[@Pilvenuga]

@@AN_PVS-2 can you link it?

[@AN_PVS-2]

@@Pilvenuga I guess I was mistaken. Could have sworn he made one because he was talking about the actual tunguska incident. There is one on the panstir

[@syntiy5737]

Intro was very nice, great video as always, always the best.

[@Joel-bj8om]

Remove the radar system and you'll have the Exorcist tank in WH40K. PRAISE BE THE GOD EMPEROR OF MAN

[@someguy8732]

Really wish the MMEV was actually put into service. Such a cool vehicle, we need an updated version of ADATS

[@Spare_Time_G]

Hey Mat! Big fan! If you see this, I have two favors to ask: First, I am KZbinr myself and have made M1128 Stryker Replica from Clay, would like to see your opinion on the video! Second, would love to see your take on T 15 Armata. What I have heard, it is supposed to be the most protected IFV yet (and does look very brutal). cheers and good luck!

[@averagewikipediaenthusiast3088]

According to Wikipedia, ADATS uses the m113a2 chassis. Does that mean that the US can easily convert old m113a2s that are just sitting in storage to this?

[@dwwolf4636]

A Bradley version was made but never produced in numbers.

[@dosig3422]

Haha thanks you for answering my previous questions with this video great video as always !

[@strathadam1]

Back in the early 90's these, along with Skyguard, were based in my hometown. The (now defunct) CFB Chatham was home to the CFs Air Defense Artillery School as well as 119 Low Level Air Defense Battery.

[@XxCarrt3rxX]

Good vid

[@iapple4139]

The missile knows where you are because it knows where you aren’t

[@tyronewalker5764]

This would be bad ass on a Stryker chassis!😎

[@brandondigiuseppe1111]

Seeing lots of clips of CAF ADATS. Looks like more recent footage too. I thought we retired them some time ago?

[@brandondigiuseppe1111]

Edit: I made this comment before the actual video began.

[@elliotdryden7560]

Well, how prophetic you are Matsimus! I wish planners would listen to people like you on things like this, but if they did, we probably wouldn't have much to talk about, huh? Viewers, watch starting at 11:09 for a Nostradamus moment.

[@williamjackson8752]

We Trained the ADA units at Ft Hunter Liggett TDY from FT Bliss, TX with our Bradley’s from 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. I’m surprised it wasn’t adapted the concept was good but expensive. It would’ve Been Ideal against Air and Ground Targets. Would’ve been Devastating against Drones.

[@plenus7392]

Those MIM186 missiles are insane

[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

I would love to see a low profile tank, say an m1 Abrams without the turret, with an unmanned turret on top. I would take and adapt some of the technology in the mast system that replaced the Periscope on the Virginia class and I would add the longbow radar from the Apache. And then put six to eight hellfire missiles on the turret. You could do with a three-man crew you pull back to a vehicle with a reload crew. Along the lines of the mlrs. Come to think of it you could even do a box launcher for the hellfires. Drop them off load them up and go back on the line. Between the low profile and the fire and forget, you could kick some serious butt. Keep the vehicle hold down extend the mast and it is a digital system that can see no matter what the conditions are. Or you could raise the longbow a couple feet, acquire the target, and then launch off the box launcher. As soon as the missiles away you scoot to another spot. they would never see you they would just see dust and smoke at best.

[@Nelsonwmj]

WARGAME GANG RISE UP!!! ADATS in Wargame: Red Dragon is probably the BEST ground anti-helo AA piece for BLUFOR players, since it's one of the longest-ranged non-radar missile AA pieces in the game.

[@shiriese]

World of donkeys suck

[@soccom8341576]

Canada/UK/Australia will need these standing up to China in the Pacific and beyond.

[@soccom8341576]

China is expanding as we speak.

[@lordwintertown8284]

Would Australia need an ADATS type system? As we just got a few Guided Anti-Aircraft Destroyers a few year back, The Hobart class. Hmm (5 minutes passed) hmm I actually don't believe Australia has any SPAAG or SAM's so we'd probably need them soon.

[@kaineidentitty4247]

I love ADATS, you can shoot down planes, helos, tanks, trucks, mooses, deer ....

[@wst8340]

2 missiles need for Moose .

[@anthonykaiser974]

The land line would actually be great for hooking into commercial lines in the Baltics and Poland, or running through internet systems. Really good in any defense setup where you could access a PSTN or IP system.

[@MrPicanto]

Heard that in trial with Canadian army in the 80s or 90s that it cannot be fire when the vip visited it process ...

[@jeffho1727]

Pain to work on (mechanically) but seemed to be a good piece of kit. It would need a gun these days as the missiles would be overkill for a drone. I think the dual 35 mm orlikon(sp?) ground trailer was hooked into the system but need to talk to a Bird Gunner for full capabilities. We need SO much more capability that has been gutted.

[@abchaplin]

The Oerlikon GDF-005 and Skyguard Mk II were in the same batteries but not the same troops. We used gun/Skyguard only in airfield batteries. The ADATS troops would deploy beyond the fence to give depth to the defence. Gun/Skyguard did not have the mobility to keep up with a brigade group. That said, with its AHEAD ammunition, there are few systems more capable against drones.

[@fakshen1973]

Alesis made 8 track, modular ADATS back in the 90's. :)

[@olegadodasguerras3795]

Man Nice vídeo iam learn much here

[@orphidian11]

do a video on the Crotale next!

[@snoman003]

I can't comment on the actual missile system however, I can comment on the chassis chosen by Canada. The M113 chassis was a horrible platform for this system. The vehicle harmonic vibration from the tracks, while running at speed, caused huge problems within the electronics over time and the rotational forces from the turret rotation was actually twisting the M113 chassis, to the point that the rear ramp wouldn't fit properly. That aside, the subsystems for the gas turbine assembly were at best substandard in construction and techs on the ground (me) had to perform "innovative" repairs (that the engineers said were impossible and shouldn't work) to get the system up to any kind of reliable standard. On top of that, the $ markup of parts by Orlikon sold to the Cdn gov was obscene. For example, the gas turbine engine starter from Sunstrand Turbomach was $1600 US, but Orlikon was billing DND $8k cdn for it. Like other Canadian systems, it was subverted by greed and political ineptitude.

[@fyaworx]

Surely there must be a newer version of these

[@judgedread2173]

In war thunder it’s pronounced anti-datshit

[@chkoha6462]

We need more abbreviations!!

[@thomasborgsmidt9801]

Well, these armoured systems tend to be so expensive (the German Gepard springs to mind), that you are better served with platoon of tanks - doing tank stuff. Personally I prefer to have TOW's on the infantry fighting vehicles and supplement that with a mashine canon of - say - 30 mm. If you have low flying hostile aircraft (like the A-10) you will not see them on radar before it is to late for an engagement. What you need is a heads up from the awacs or something similar with expected direction and a time frame for the platoon commander to give out the order to turn the turrets in the right direction and by sight fire the devil out of the mashine canons. Aircraft do not take kindly to transverse a cloud of shrapnel. Besides that your vehicles will be so widely dispersed that close air support is not really a thing. You can have helicopters and higher flying aircraft trying with guided weapons. But that is more the job for an integrated air defence system. Personally I think man portable Stingers are more appropriate. What the Danes are doing is putting the anti aircraft missiles on their frigates and park them in the city square. The real role of the short range air defence is to "lift" low level intruders to where the fighters can see them and slug them with their missiles. The point being that a fighter aircraft will have forward motion that will give the missile a forward boost - and eliminate the need for a booster. There might be an argument for the system in airfield defence - which is a KNOWN target; but these airfields are generally located so far back that it will be little help to the artillery, infantry and cavalry.

[@thusharikabotheju5655]

cool i didnt even know about this thx matt : )

[@Redmitchyx]

It was used in defence of the g7 or something like that right ? In Alberta

[@Tallus_ap_Mordren]

USMC field wireman here. You can lay landline very quickly by vehicle or helicopter. In practice, no one ever offered me a helicopter for laying wire😔

[@chloehennessey6813]

I’d get a few Tunguska’s. Those 30mm cannons are just freaking insane.

[@tauron1]

A system like this would be of great use in Ukraine, they have need of AA/Missile systems, especially the SHORAD type, as well as Anti-tank, that is not a MANPAD system. Canada should donate these mothballed systems.

[@mukadewolf530]

*a EMP TYPE BURST AA SHELL is a great idea for a swarm of drones*

[@albinofknrhino2949]

The Canadian military cancels everything it's tough to hear being Canadian

[@PytonPagom]

That is like an better Tunguska there. It could have been a really good competitor to nowdays Pantsir systems. Shame it didn't survive that long.

[@robertfarrow4256]

Cool.

[@Tallus_ap_Mordren]

With the cannon turret, it reminds me of a Terminator HK.

[@gomangomidcitymoparsdfw4433]

Who is the Artist at the very beginning of the video, the guitar and beat? I would like to know , Thanks

[@Mwahaha105]

Now we have the Spike missile as well as the twin 35 mm canon.

[@bromine_35]

Why don't the strap ADATS missles on apache helis?

[@claudiovictorferreira992]

Good question

[@bromine_35]

@@claudiovictorferreira992 I agree seeing the apache both has a radar and IR guidance system it seems like it would be easy to integrate and a match made in heaven.

[@glornporklongton7338]

So the CF has what for low level AD, .50 cals on M63 mounts? They were old when I was in.....pretty sad though, it looks like it was a really good system....

[@twanabaiz9516]

Is land range 8 km or just air target please ?

[@Joel-bj8om]

ADATS would be nice as a anti infantry/structure. I hope they convert it rather than scrap it.

[@Marinealver]

Already scrapped

[@MrSmith-zh4ld]

Favorite unit in Wargame Red Dragon.

[@TrueStrongNorth]

Where are they now?

[@briananthony4044]

Russia has just brought out their own version of ADATS, very similar performance, so the system was way ahead of what has been available in the intervening period.

[@giggling_boatswain]

Russians do not forget the veterans, constantly modernizing them. Here is their updated Tunguska. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5CVeJquor1_kNU

[@legatvsdecimvs3406]

Probably the best Short Range Air Defense Missile System built in North America, even today. Compared to the attempts to attach some re-purposed Hellfire missiles to some launch platform that is never just right or the various Stinger missile launcher vehicle designs. And in the end they just buy a handful of Israeli Iron-Dome missile launchers or attach the 20mm Phalanx CIWS to a truck in the US.

[@falanglao01]

Was there ony one type of missile used? Anti Armor requires shaped charge as you mentioned but against aircraft, blast fragmentation with proximity fuze would be required, I can't imagine how to fit both into one missile, at least not without compromise

[@jonathangriffiths2499]

Fragmentation sleeve surrounding the hollow charge maybe ?

[@falanglao01]

@@jonathangriffiths2499 Sure, possibly. Anyways, tactics-wise I'd think you would rather keep this vehicle slightly further back from the FEBA too keep it safe, it's much too valuable, the anti-armor capability would only be used in an emergency

[@Birch12430]

I think it goes for a direct hit

[@lessharratt8719]

So what did Canada replace this with??? Anyone. I would really like to know.

[@neermalgovindia7503]

what happened to the "we will remember them"?

[@DogDays2025]

Ahhh memories.

[@woltews]

Having been around the thing it was broken more then it worked ,RADAR was a particularly fragile part as I recall

[@Pfsif]

It also works as a Zamboni in between periods eh!

[@michaelgautreaux3168]

Gotta love ♥️ it, & using m113 chassis......lmao! Many thanx Matt! Hear these things are bear in war thunder, Super Vid. Be safe 🦊 ; I know later used Bradley's

[@riharharhar]

war thunder fans are gonna love this one

[@terryfreeman1018]

I read a quote once. " If adats can destroy a tank, then imagine what it could do to an aircraft ." Don't can it keep it in reserve.

[@nunyabidness3075]

We were suppose to replace the Vulcan with this in the US, but it failed testing just as Sgt York did. Not sure if Matsimus got data from after improvements were made or if it’s like the healthcare system they say is so great, but really isn’t the more you know. (Lived in Canada for a year).

[@farazsalehi9034]

so .. what has came after ADATS ?

[@ଳନଧସଧସଧଧଧଧରଳଧଞ]

the best air defense us uk

[@clausidrogo6257]

Looks very similar to the terminator tank ( Russia) I wonder why they don’t produce more of those tanks, maybe they have different options that don’t have been promoted ( secrets )

[@FIRE_STORMFOX-3692]

I love those freaking tanks, mostly because I am certain tanks will have to look some like this if they wish to battle with out air superiority

[@oldgamesinvestigator7852]

I wonder how difficult it would be to mount an ADATS turret on a Stryker.

[@ahmadariqdarwish2042]

Imagine putting Kashtan CIWS in T-72 turret that will be sick

[@7ElevenTruther]

Considering those missiles carry shaped charge warheads that are likely alot heavier than your typical blast fragmentation warhead on a dedicated SAM, aside from helicopters, I wonder how effective this system would be at intercepting smaller targets like medium altitude drones, cruise missiles, and other PGMs in a point defense role? Like, would it really have been that great of an purpose air defense system or only really be useful against low flying helicopters? Honestly being able to hit drones, missiles and standoff guided munitions is alot more relevant today than protecting tank collums from hordes of soviet hinds.

[@dwwolf4636]

The Missile is similar in speed as comparable SACLOS missiles ( which typically fly in the mach 2 -3 range ). If the optical tracking system is in order it should function well against low flying aircraft within its envellope .

[@qc_ploum-zoum2]

If its not in service anymore, what do we have for mobile air defence?

[@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry]

You know all those unemployed Air Canada flight attendants? Armed with pea-shooters and water balloons, they're Vlad and Xi's worst nightmare.

[@pardiardi6360]

Indonesia hrs pny senjata seperti ini

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

ADATS effective against infantry? I could use these against my enemies.

[@JMiskovsky]

@Matsimus The Russian terminator is somewhat useless. They should have marreged Derivatsya 57 mm with Terminator in order to make something like ADATS. Think of it: 2x 57 guns could ba based on T-90 chassis if not then put it on Armata platform along with some missiles (SS2A and S2S).

[@viper29ca]

Another brilliant piece of kit, made pointless (in some people's minds) by the end of the cold war. Thankfully while these are no longer in service, they aren't gone gone, and are just in mothballs at this point in time. Although if we needed to use them again, anyone that knew how to use them are long gone. Best friend crewed these, and started his military career off in the ADATS back in the early '90s, and ended as a Det Commander before remustering. Their motto was if you can see it, you can kill it. Which is why they bragged that they could take out a stealth fighter if they saw one. Mind you that stealth fighter would have to be right on top of them and below 10000m....but still.

[@theimmortal4718]

Hell yeah

[@MasterBlasterSr]

I worked on this project.

[@RubyFox_YT]

A true Hunter Killer tank

[@Joe3pops]

Canada should have kept this excellent weapon system merely to protect our aging CF-188 Hornet fleet.

[@gremlin_uwu]

I was playing Wargame Red Dragon yesterday and saw this vehicle, at first I didn't notice it could engage ground targets but after I noticed I was bit like "WTF is this shit dude?"

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

But can the missile be countered by using a Trophy active protection system?

[@gorshkovcarlvinson9537]

well in theory certain modifications maybe used to allow the missiles to evade the aps rounds

[@gorshkovcarlvinson9537]

if maybe you could design the missile to have something like a vertical launched turnover pack but in this case it is used to sort of side step the missile like in rugby

[@gorshkovcarlvinson9537]

or maybe a structure of an aster missile when it tries to correct it's trajectory if you know what i mean

[@kresbes7240]

8.6km altitude range. This thing could actualy knock out a mq9 or a tb2.