The Albigensian Crusade

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The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

5 жыл бұрын

In 1209, the assassination of a Papal representative spurred Pope Innocent III to declare a crusade against the Cathars in Southeastern France. The next twenty years changed the map of Europe. This is the forgotten history of the Albigensian Crusade.
This is original content based on research by The History Guy. Images in the Public Domain are carefully selected and provide illustration. As images of actual events are sometimes not available, images of similar objects and events are used for illustration.
This episode covers a period of historical violence. All events are portrayed in historical context and for educational purposes. No images or content are primarily intended to shock and disgust. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Non censuram.
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@occitanedeprovence
@occitanedeprovence 3 жыл бұрын
The Albigensian Crusade is the start of the French conquest of Occitania
@abctato5355
@abctato5355 2 жыл бұрын
I have no Occitan heritage at all, the closest is Catalan (my surname comes from there) and I live very far away in Uruguay BUT, I would like an independent Occitania. I hope that one day you can break Paris' yoke. Normandy, Brittany, Picardy, and others as well!
@Ammo08
@Ammo08 5 жыл бұрын
A young priest asked a bishop, "Which orders is the best, the Jesuits or the Dominicans?" The Bishop said, "The Dominicans were formed to combat the Cathars. The Jesuits were formed to combat the Protestants." The young priest said, "So which is the best order?" The bishop smiled and said, "Seen any Cathars lately?"
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 5 жыл бұрын
Answer lies in "Understanding the Council of Nicea" the truths on the goals of Constatine and the Priests he selected - this would require a further history of the era from 100 BC to 400 AD A very worthy task ! Gnostics - the more true Christians. The Victors write history and thus made accusations of their enemies that aren't accurate. - That statement is absolute in all events in history. 💫
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr T Most appreciative - Thank you.
@tomfisher9089
@tomfisher9089 5 жыл бұрын
Wow a joke about murder and torture. Nice
@dannynicastro3207
@dannynicastro3207 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Fisher ....The damn heat and humidity of the Mediterranean coast drove alot of folks crazy it seems. LOL.... still does. I joke about it with my husband who makes a point of saying his grands were Sicilian....not Italian, while mine were Northern French and Italian. Somewhere along the line, there may have been a bit of Israeli in there on my side, but it doesnt matter to me. I am born n bred and will die in America, like my Father. Mom left France at 23, with Dad....and my older brothet in tow. She couldnt wait to come to the U.S., as far as the story went.
@dannynicastro3207
@dannynicastro3207 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Fisher ....Hey, if cant laugh, what is the use of living.? Truly.
@tomn.9879
@tomn.9879 5 жыл бұрын
It’s great when you bring maps into your videos.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 5 жыл бұрын
Tom N. Yes, but maps are limited unless the regions and cities mentioned in the narration are highlighted.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 5 жыл бұрын
Above par and excellent visual adaptations we are bestowed, Amen.
@flyingdog1498
@flyingdog1498 5 жыл бұрын
2nd Bn 26th 1968-1970
@JeffCounsil-rp4qv
@JeffCounsil-rp4qv 5 жыл бұрын
I like it too, BUT he tends to zoom in too far and it hurts my old eyes being so far out of focus.
@filiosstangos
@filiosstangos 5 жыл бұрын
thank you! made me wanna watch the Name of the Rose film again
@deanstuart8012
@deanstuart8012 5 жыл бұрын
I studied the economy of Languedoc for O-level Geography back in the mid 80's. It never appeared on any exams for some reason, but our practicing alcoholic geography teacher seemed quite keen to talk about the region's wine industry.
@michaeldougfir9807
@michaeldougfir9807 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dean, At one time I was married into a British family, until my wife died. She was young. Anyway, I am one of very few Americans who knows what the term, O level, means. Could you put in a wee word about that please.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 5 жыл бұрын
The Gin Breath and Drunken professors were the very Best. I recall when a professor could light up a cigarette during his lecture. Better days back then you fools.
@kint87
@kint87 5 жыл бұрын
Anyway as a frenchmen i can tell you its a beautiful region to visit, held between mountain to south, mediterranean sea to the east and atlantic ocean to the west Give it a go once in your life if you could :)
@deanstuart8012
@deanstuart8012 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldougfir9807 General Certificate of Education Ordinary Level (taken at 16) and Advanced Level (taken at 18 if you stayed on at school). Both could be taken by adults later in life. If you weren't clever enough to do O-Levels you did CSEs (Certificate of Secondary Education) which could only be taken the age of 16. A CSE Grade 1 was classed as an O-level pass. O-Levels and CSEs were replaced by a combined exam, the General Certificate of Secondary Education in 1988, which can be taken by anyone. A-levels are still in existence though.
@oldgoat142
@oldgoat142 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching me about more, little known history. As someone who is passionate about history, I truly appreciate your videos.
@MultiHistory
@MultiHistory 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! I love history, and I always look forward with great anticipation for your next video. Thank you. Cheers, Shannon
@joegagliardi1938
@joegagliardi1938 5 жыл бұрын
I've become a big fan of these new lectures/videos...keep up the good work sir!
@laurenceelisha689
@laurenceelisha689 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks HG for another piece of forgotten history. Don’t know how you do it, but keep up the great work! Love seeing your numbers continue to rise.
@imakedumbvideos8999
@imakedumbvideos8999 5 жыл бұрын
You need your own tv series
@PhilipLeitch
@PhilipLeitch 5 жыл бұрын
Nooooooo... This is better than anything on TV
@timmmahhhh
@timmmahhhh 5 жыл бұрын
Too much crap with TV, he would have to tailor everything to fall within the censure of the broadcasters.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what this is?
@imakedumbvideos8999
@imakedumbvideos8999 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel ur awesome i mean it be great to see you mondays on the history channel...sorry for being a fan
@BangFarang1
@BangFarang1 5 жыл бұрын
TV is a medium of the past. Long live KZbin.
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 5 жыл бұрын
Man they sure take that "thou shall not kill" thing seriously.
@commander31able60
@commander31able60 5 жыл бұрын
in the words of Staff Sergeant Sykes, "fuck that shit"
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 5 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Jeep Gurl/Leasing Agent where I reside.
@tomfisher9089
@tomfisher9089 5 жыл бұрын
God doesn't take it seriously either. He ordered the Israelites on numerous occasions to go into villages and kill EVERY LIVING BEING. This began happening when they started entering the promise land after 40 years of wandering in the desert. God called for absolute slaughter of men, women, children, and livestock. Now if that is a god you wish to worship then be my guest. Just remember whenever children and adults are raped, tortured, murdered, and starved to death around the world somewhere EVERY day, that this god of love, who is all powerful and knows EVÉRYTHING....DOES NOTHING!! That's why anyone with critical thinking abilities and a thimble full of common sense comes to the inevitable conclusion that religion is a scam older than prostitution. There is no god; never was. .
@AluminiumT6
@AluminiumT6 Жыл бұрын
I think you don't understand how Christianity works, or what we really believe. Maybe you should try to get informed.
@morskojvolk
@morskojvolk 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, have never heard of this. Thank you!
@simplethings3730
@simplethings3730 Жыл бұрын
When this was mentioned in a book I was reading I decided to hit KZbin to find out more about it. I was very pleasantly surprised to find HG at the top of the search list.
@robertbainbridge9786
@robertbainbridge9786 5 жыл бұрын
Curious fact; the Simon de Montfort mentioned in this video as a leader of the crusade had a son of the same name. This younger Simon de Montfort would go on to be the favourite, and later the nemesis of King Henry III of England, the instigator of the Second Barons' War and - depending on your view of the man - the founder of the Parliament of England. Like his father, he would go on to meet a grisly end at the Battle of Evesham in 1265.
@marshaltito7232
@marshaltito7232 5 жыл бұрын
You should do one on the USS Bullhead, the last American ship sunk in WWII. Great content, keep up the great work!
@darlenewright5850
@darlenewright5850 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Well done. Thank you again dear sir.
@sameyers2670
@sameyers2670 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another interesting video, I'm passionate about history and learn a lot from you. Regards to you and your family from the UK
@joehayward2631
@joehayward2631 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I found your channel on KZbin, your doing a great job keep up you hard work
@chrisd8866
@chrisd8866 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the presentation. One of my history teachers also taught us that since the cathars renounced material wealth, they accepted lower wages than catholics. So this made them a cheap source of manpower that the lords and merchants of Languedoc were keen to protect.
@honeysucklecat
@honeysucklecat 3 жыл бұрын
I had a history teacher in college - the guy was an old Mainer, thick accent. I’ll never forget the way he would say Albigensians.
@droneanswers5476
@droneanswers5476 5 жыл бұрын
that was a great episode ! you have teach me a bet of my own country history better then no one here have done yet on that subject, im from Valenciennes in the top north of France but I have seen those castles when traveling and never yet understood the history of them, to me "cathare" was the name of an architectural style of castle of the south of France, I thank you sir for it as well as your wife for her latest episode. im looking forward to see more from you guys, a bientôt !
@josephmathis5795
@josephmathis5795 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard and watched this episode, I dug through my papers and found both the French and the English version of Dominique, the song made popular by the Singing Nun, from back during the 1950's to 60's. In the original French text, she sings of Dominique combatit les Albigeois. But the English version, as sung by so many, simply said that Dominique was fighting sin like anything. Please forgive me if I have stepped on the copyright.
@jordanmote8132
@jordanmote8132 5 жыл бұрын
Another great piece of work! Keep em coming! More pirates!
@simonolsen9995
@simonolsen9995 5 жыл бұрын
Well done again HG!
@TAndRDInSpace
@TAndRDInSpace 5 жыл бұрын
You make history interesting and fun. I would have liked to have you as my history teacher in the 90's.
@tdubveedub
@tdubveedub 5 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading Eric Hoffer's 'The True Believer'; what a revelation on so many fronts.
@markdonnelly1913
@markdonnelly1913 5 жыл бұрын
Great as always.
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 5 жыл бұрын
Pope Innocent now that's a real oxymoron when you hear the death count.
@fnorgen
@fnorgen 5 жыл бұрын
Pope Innocent the not.
@WackyIraqi777
@WackyIraqi777 5 жыл бұрын
@@fnorgen Pope Hilarious the Only
@jorda.2412
@jorda.2412 5 жыл бұрын
Innocent...like an alter boy. Thou can't have a faith better than I, by God.... Your faith should be within , not forced into public....is that not vanity?
@elhombredeoro955
@elhombredeoro955 5 жыл бұрын
Why let the Pope's name get in the way of a good crusade?
@ronfullerton3162
@ronfullerton3162 4 жыл бұрын
@Findlay Robertson There can be such a thing as a religion of peace, but the sinful nature of man always comes through to ruin it. As in this example you have the Pope and the the upper levels of the church deciding they alone can pass judgement on the faith and practices of such by others. Not by Holy scripture, but by their own thoughts. The greed of power and riches and the desires of such led them away from the peace they were to share with others. Man's greed and desires has, through history, led us down many dark paths of wars and other sad calamities. We have destroyed much in history due to our dark desires, be it a single person or a whole large identity such as a nation. It is the nature of man and not an identifying integer such as a church, nation, religion, political party, race, sex, or any such thing. Man himself is responsible for his lot!
@almontepaolilli4909
@almontepaolilli4909 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Keep them coming
@robotslug
@robotslug 5 жыл бұрын
The best most informative channel on KZbin.
@Lord.Kiltridge
@Lord.Kiltridge 5 жыл бұрын
Marvellous episode and a particularly nice bow tie.
@MrHyde-zy6ry
@MrHyde-zy6ry 5 жыл бұрын
Dang! That's a lot of folks dying due to these events. Especially considering the population back then. Thanks for another well made & interesting video History Guy!
@roberthorwat6747
@roberthorwat6747 5 жыл бұрын
Now I know what the line 'combattit les Albigeois' refers to in the song Dominique by The Singing Nun. But for this History Guy video I doubt I would ever have discovered it's significance so comprehensively. Plus it's a well narrated and fascinating tale - but they always are. Big thumbs up from me👍
@garymcaleer6112
@garymcaleer6112 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent history, HG. Although the commandment keeping church had many names throughout the remote mountain regions of Europe and elsewhere they held synods and were united in all essential doctrines, rejoicing through tears and song their mutual deliverance “in Christ.” Their Latin Vulgate Bible, the Itala (dating from the 2nd century), played a large role in producing the King James Version Bible. Here are a few names of these noble Christians that “the books” of heaven recorded: the Albigenses, the Arnoldists, the Berengarians, the Celts, the Claudians, the Henricians, the Insabbatati, the Jacobites, the Leonists, the Lollards, the Messiahans, the Nazarenes, the Passagians, the Paterines, the Paulicians, the Petrobusians, the Runerians, the Saint Thomas Christians, the Subalpini, the Vaudois, and the Waldenses. These Bible-obedient brethren lived in the mountain regions throughout Europe and the British Isles, extending even throughout Asia. It was their missionary work and sacrifice that preserved the Apostolic Gospel until the Reformation movement when the great Waldensian missionary, Lollard, a Sabbath keeper, enlightened John Wycliffe, who from that moment forward became “the Morning Star" of the Reformation.
@josephnardone1250
@josephnardone1250 5 жыл бұрын
A fun fact, I hope, it was after this crusade that walled cities were outlawed and cities had to remove their walls. Great Video. Have read much about this crusade. A fascinating period in history. At Toulouse, the Count was killed by a mother-daughter team using a catapult and hit him with a rock in the head. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
@Liutgard
@Liutgard 5 жыл бұрын
I love that you covered this! It's a time and place that doesn't get enough press, to my liking. The best writing I've seen on it is not Ladurie though- it's Zoe Oldenbourg. She wrote extensively about the Crusades,. and had an entire volume on the Cathars- _Massacre at Montsegeur_. Quite a bit of her fiction is set there too, my favorite being _Cities of the Flesh_. A book of what I like to call 'terrible beauty'- it is delicious, but it will rip your heart out. Worth looking it up.
@charlie418791
@charlie418791 5 жыл бұрын
Another gem , H.G.👍
@welshskies
@welshskies 5 жыл бұрын
I love your French pronunciation, it is very ......... individual. :-) The Cathars left some stunning castles behind which are well worth a visit. I'm proudly wearing my History Guy T-shirt as I type.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 5 жыл бұрын
History Guy T-shirt, money well spent.
@landrum3893
@landrum3893 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel! I had to chuckle a bit at the mispronounced city names.
@gungadin7721
@gungadin7721 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Love the crusades, but glad I wasn't alive for them. How about a video on Ernst Shackleton's ill fated journey to the South pole?
@ricks1314
@ricks1314 5 жыл бұрын
First one, thanks as always!! Always fascinating, I stop what I’m doing to watch your videos!!
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 5 жыл бұрын
Thumbs DOWN and the First One whatever is so annoying. Please spare us.
@ricks1314
@ricks1314 5 жыл бұрын
Backatcha, learn to speak only for yourself. Maybe there is a YT channel for that.
@footshotstube
@footshotstube 5 жыл бұрын
wow that was fast! and i have read on this subject , awesome , thankyou
@bobert702
@bobert702 5 жыл бұрын
I'd been wondering about the Bad Neighbor hero unit Trebuchet in Age of Empires II for a long time. So thanks for that.
@joshgeiger9090
@joshgeiger9090 5 жыл бұрын
There were several other Catapults/Trebuchets with the same name. The more famous one (i believe) was made by French King Philip at the Siege of Acre during the 3rd Crusade.
@bobert702
@bobert702 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, that's right. What's the other? God's Own Sling? I must have gotten those two mixed up. So people just really liked naming their trebuchet/catapults? That is a little odd right?
@redmist1122
@redmist1122 5 жыл бұрын
Very fascinating information. Thank you! Have you done a clip about the Lithuanian Crusaders?
@mcrae5960
@mcrae5960 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Church history (good and bad) is intertwined with history in general and has had a profound impact on our world today. I enjoy all types of history. Ryan Reeves has a channel that focuses on historical theology, similar to the content of this video. He and the History Guy are two of my favs.
@tesmith47
@tesmith47 5 жыл бұрын
There is no good!
@youmaus
@youmaus 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember "The Singing Nun" from back in the 1960s? Her international hit "DOMINIQUE" was actually a celebration ballad of the masacre of the Albegensians led by Dominique Guzman , founder of "the hounds of God " (domini canes)
@patsyoconner9506
@patsyoconner9506 3 жыл бұрын
i do not know why dominic was made a saint seeing he led a crusade of genocide against people who did not have the same beliefs as him
@kevinlesch9656
@kevinlesch9656 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! So much information I usually watch parts twice and still don't comprehend it all. There seems to be a lot of history in Europe around this time but how about more on north america? I'm guessing it's not as well documented but the only thing we ever hear about native Americans is after white man comes. If you could find the information you could probably do a series on it
@Aramis419
@Aramis419 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed, at the end of the video, instead of “Aragon” you said “Aragorn”. I made the same slip during a history conference back in college, but since nobody seemed to notice except for my professor, I continued my presentation and used “Aragorn” as often as I could. My professor was rolling with laughter and had to leave the room!
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 5 жыл бұрын
What was your final grade and the end of the Fall and or Spring Semester?
@Aramis419
@Aramis419 5 жыл бұрын
HighSpeedNoDrag In all my history courses, I got A’s, since it was my major. However, I never let my GPA get above a 3.4, because then people might think I was taking college seriously.
@TheMosinCrate
@TheMosinCrate 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard of the cathars before, that's very interesting part of Christianity. What an amazing amount of death for almost nobody in the modern day to know about it. Thanks for another amazing bit of forgotten history.
@16denier
@16denier 5 жыл бұрын
It didn't happen accidentally. The Crusades and the Holy Inquisition are particularly bad PR for the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic educators were motivated to self-censor. The political power of the church on local American school boards made sure that if you heard about it at all, it wouldn't be until you got to college or university. I did some independent reading by the time I was in high school, so I knew about the Inquisition but not the Albigensian crusade. I'll never forget the conservative priest at the parochial high school I went to. After I asked him a direct question about it, his response started, "The Inquisition was supposed to be a good thing..." He then went on to talk about all of the "heretics" walking around in those days. I looked him up a few years ago and discovered that the diocese "retired" him for pedophilia.
@welshskies
@welshskies 5 жыл бұрын
@@16denier The Cathars left some stunning castles (chateaux) behind, well worth a visit.
@moonmunster
@moonmunster 5 жыл бұрын
I am a heretic today. I hope they don't burn me.@@16denier
@joshgeiger9090
@joshgeiger9090 5 жыл бұрын
@@welshskies They did leave some, though a lot of what they call Cathar Castles today were never used by the Cathars.
@welshskies
@welshskies 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshgeiger9090 I remember climbing up to Château de Peyrpertuse in 1991 with my 18 month old son in a backpack baby carrier, it was in June (30 degrees C), I vaguely recall the site didn't have any visitor facilities of note back then. We had a picnic gazing out over the spectacular valley and re-hydrating with some Pschitt. :-)
@kejay74
@kejay74 5 жыл бұрын
@The History Guy I often admire the backdrop of your setting. With all of the military themed 'covers' on the shelves behind you, I have one question. Have you one from WW2 Merchant Mariner's with the 3 bladed propeller badge? I have a photo of my father & a crewmate which features this badge on the cover. My father passed on when I was but four years of age, in 1960. Best regards, Ken
@leeneufeld4140
@leeneufeld4140 5 жыл бұрын
War never changes. And as long as we keep pursuing it, neither will we.
@Lockbar
@Lockbar 5 жыл бұрын
Inquisitor_of_Toulouse…….just discovered my new computer gamer name.
@benoitbvg2888
@benoitbvg2888 5 жыл бұрын
Savage.
@nissen4700
@nissen4700 5 жыл бұрын
Remember_the_cathars, would be a better name.
@dylc5604
@dylc5604 5 жыл бұрын
How about Pope_Innocent
@Breazer_
@Breazer_ 4 жыл бұрын
See you in Mordhau!
@MrPants-zu6dm
@MrPants-zu6dm 5 жыл бұрын
fascinating, great lesson.
@LostInThe0zone
@LostInThe0zone 5 жыл бұрын
An interesting piece of European history that I never knew before. Thanks.
@robertlavigne8153
@robertlavigne8153 5 жыл бұрын
A particularly well done piece ... studying and traveling in this region one can get a sense of the discontinuity imposed by this butchery ... and the scale of the disruption the conflict imposed ... as far as Northern Europe and actually affected the projection of European power into the new world .... recently there has been an attempt to reconstruct the art and music of the Cathars ... a tiny window into an extinguished culture ...
@anonUK
@anonUK Жыл бұрын
If you get to go to Southern France, visit Carcassonne obviously but also the nearby medieval hilltop village of Minerve, which was a last redoubt of the Cathars.
@Jennifer-tt5xe
@Jennifer-tt5xe 3 жыл бұрын
I learned so much from the history guy thank you 😘❤️🇺🇲
@absentmindedprof
@absentmindedprof 5 жыл бұрын
I studied this crusade in a class on Gallo-Roman history. It well does deserve to be remembered. Many thanks!
@heidimarchant5438
@heidimarchant5438 5 жыл бұрын
Next up John Paul Jones please or the swamp fox, both are interesting characters.
@sharonkeith601
@sharonkeith601 5 жыл бұрын
Heidi Marchant / BONHOEFFER !
@CDNShuffle
@CDNShuffle 5 жыл бұрын
Top of the morning to ya my history dude
@gregorykrajeski6255
@gregorykrajeski6255 5 жыл бұрын
A comment I made on your mints post that may have gotten burried. 1. You forgot our mint in Manilla 2. The mint in Oregon was built in "The Dalles" (silent e), not Dallas City.
@aaronthoming8192
@aaronthoming8192 5 жыл бұрын
The U.S. had a mint in the Philippines?
@KarlBunker
@KarlBunker 5 жыл бұрын
"1. You forgot our mint in Manilla" You make some excellent folders there, too.
@joshgeiger9090
@joshgeiger9090 5 жыл бұрын
We specifically didn't do Manilla for a couple of reasons. It might get its own episode.
@gregorykrajeski6255
@gregorykrajeski6255 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshgeiger9090 Thanks for the reply and keep up the good work!
@amywright2243
@amywright2243 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite of your bow ties.
@davida1610
@davida1610 5 жыл бұрын
THG, thanks for covering this fascinating, tragic episode in Church history. Thank God for the Reformation, which broke the monopoly stranglehold that a single entity had on Christianity, the Catholic church. Faith in Christ is a matter to be derived from Scripture + Conscience, never a "holy bureaucracy" - that's the lesson I draw from your enlightening presentation, good Sir !
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 5 жыл бұрын
FWIW: I think Jesus is himself said something to that effect...😊
@hlynnkeith9334
@hlynnkeith9334 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding!
@RedHeart64
@RedHeart64 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see this coming out. I never learned the name of the crusade, or that it indeed was a crusade, but I had read about the pogrom against the Cathars and how cruel the "Good Christians" could be and were. The sad fact is that the more I've learned, the more I've come to dislike Christianity and left that religion years ago. (I still sometimes respect the person they miscall "Jesus", but also know that enough words were put in his mouth that we cannot trust the 'source' - the only written account based on writings from generations after he'd been crucified.) If you'd like to talk more about the crusades, you could mention how many of the Good Christians often got their wealth and position by despoiling (and murdering) Jews on the way to the Mideast... when they went through countries where Jews were tolerated or accepted. (Also how the depiction of the Jews in the Bible was... inaccurate. There are adequate resources for these topics.) Their campaigns against other religious minorities should also be brought up - for instance the way the churches have used the law to force their forms of religion on others and how they try to micromanage and dictate the lives of others. For instance, Native Americans did not have freedom of religion in most of this country until AFTER 1980... years after I'd graduated from High School. The more militant fundamentalist forms were our biggest enemies... they did NOT want people to learn how we weren't as portrayed and wanted us 'kept in our place'. I remember several very hostile sermons directed at us and our religion - years before I learned I wasn't white and the truth about what my ancestors believed and a few years after I'd learned the truth. Every time we traveled to visit our grandmother when I was younger, we were in jeopardy in Georgia... state law demanded that any Native American found in most of the state be thrown in prison at hard labor "until their debt to society is paid" - and that applied to men, women, and children alike. I've got copies of some of those laws (repealed in 1980/81, after we gained freedom of religion) which also made access to the courts impossible, and I've been searching off and on for a copy of a law (repealed about the same time) making it legal to shoot us after dark in some counties in the Southeast. Indeed, any Native American in the southeast was in dire danger from the Klan, because most of us could pass as white or black (if we wanted to). Most people never heard of laws like those.. but a little digging will ferret them out (every state had some version of laws repressing us). America likes to proclaim itself to be so great... but the TRUE history... is not. The way it has been described - my ancestors had five choices. (1) Go to Oklahoma, (2) try to escape into other states and pass as white (my ancestors), (3) try to stay and pass as white in their homeland (and if caught, the usual punishment was being burned alive by the Klan), (4) accept third-class citizenship and convert to Christianity (and be "properly submissive to their betters"), or (5) be put to death. That was it. The Cherokee (and a couple of others)... got their reservation so they had a sixth choice. Many tribes weren't so lucky.
@donna30044
@donna30044 5 жыл бұрын
5:02 The origin(?) of the infamous "Kill them all and let God sort them out!"
@occitanedeprovence
@occitanedeprovence 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Besièrs, 1209.
@kingofopossums
@kingofopossums 5 жыл бұрын
Can your please make a video on the Yellow Fleet? It's history that deserves to be remembered.
@TheSlasherJunkie
@TheSlasherJunkie 10 ай бұрын
It’s important to note that of those 120 Perfects killed, all but four had taken the vow of perfection the day before. Vows identical to those of a priest, but Cathars didn’t have recognize any religious hierarchy. They saw it as an opportunity to let their martyrdom speak for itself, as they’d been denied a voice.
@martinh8784
@martinh8784 5 жыл бұрын
Here is a suggestion for you: "Butte de Vauquois" from the 1916 Battle of Verdun. Butte de Vauquois is about 15 km away from Verdun, but overlooks the train lines into Verdun. The French and German were very close to each other and blasted each other with mines constantly. There are apparently 17 km of tunnels still under the hill who has been blasted into 2 parts, evaporating the original village completely. On first glance, it looks like a "Tom and Jerry" story where 2 opponents keep through-ing bigger and bigger things at each other in a near-comical fashion. However, suddenly you realize that at least 8,000 people are still missing in this unassuming hill in the middle of nowhere. Now, staying on this hill becomes a very chilling experience. Definitely "history worth to be remembered".
@robrosen7291
@robrosen7291 5 жыл бұрын
A friend mentioned the War of Jenkins' Ear to me today, asked me if I'd ever heard the story. I didn't know anything about it, so looked it up on Wiki. Perhaps you could do a History Guy presentation about this war.
@JohnCampbell-rn8rz
@JohnCampbell-rn8rz 3 жыл бұрын
And still there are people who argue that the Church of Rome has been and is today a force for good in the world. Yet it is difficult to believe that there is another organization that has sanctioned more death & genocide down through the ages than this one.
@LanguedocProvenceGascogneMIDI
@LanguedocProvenceGascogneMIDI Жыл бұрын
*How did the French take over the Occitan principalities?* The crusade against the Cathar heresy was above all an opportunity for the crown of France to annex a large part of Occitania, starting with the viscounties of Albi de Béziers and Carcassonne, then the entire county of Toulouse.
@Devlbaby
@Devlbaby 5 жыл бұрын
Another salient point that put the Cathars at odds with Rome was their adherence to a vegetarian diet as the other Gnostic sects who proscribed the ritual practice of animal sacrifice as contrary to spiritual integrity. A second part of this fascinating history would connect the events of Monsegur 1244 with the Visigoth sacking of Rome by Alarick nearly a millenium earlier in which allegedly the treasure of Solomon was spirited from Rome back to the L'angedoc region which also ties into the Rennes le Chateau mystery. Cheers
@bjornodin
@bjornodin 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video as always. It is very sad that this sect of Christianity was not left in peace. From what I have learned so far it's practices seem more humanistic than the traditional church.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Doctrinal heresies always seem an odd excuse for killing. Innocent III was reportedly afraid that difference among Christians would make Europe more vulnerable to Muslim invasion. If that was the fear, internecine war seems to only make the problem worse.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 5 жыл бұрын
Their beliefs were rooted in Gnosticism a false belief system that followed the original Apostles to undo their work. The Apostle Paul speaks of it numerous times in the Bible.
@bjornodin
@bjornodin 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply 😊 I'm inclined to agree with your answer.
@luckytatum6114
@luckytatum6114 5 жыл бұрын
@@LuvBorderCollies Trinitarianism is an ancient pagan religion. The Catholic Church used murder and terrorism to force it on Arians, Cathars and any others who would challenge their power. By calling Gnosticism false, you display an arrogance similar to that of the inquisitors. If one can't sell one's ideas with words perhaps they aren't the best ideas. All religious wars are caused by a lack of humility. At least, that's how it seems to me.
@andrewwmacfadyen6958
@andrewwmacfadyen6958 5 жыл бұрын
Worth remembering the Roman Catholic Church is historically the successor to the Roman Empire , Religions are at heart always intertwined with the politics of power.
@Tflexxx02
@Tflexxx02 5 жыл бұрын
St. Francis of Assisi was alive at this time, and his communing with and love of nature stood as a counterpoint to the anti-materialism of the Albigensians. Francis' success had also to do with the fact that the Papacy saw promoting Francis as one way to fight the Albigensians.
@shawngilliland243
@shawngilliland243 5 жыл бұрын
Assassinating inquisitors - what a great idea! Thanks for the great presentation on the Albigensian Crusade.
@joebudde3302
@joebudde3302 5 жыл бұрын
Should we should thank the History Cat for this episode ? I am always amazed at the barbarism associated with religions in ancient as well as modern times, thank you for presenting history in it's true form as an educational tool and not a political means.
@bobnewmanknott3433
@bobnewmanknott3433 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings and thanks from Carcassonne
@islandmonusvi
@islandmonusvi 5 жыл бұрын
Brutally knows no boundaries...
@MacedonianHero
@MacedonianHero 5 жыл бұрын
Good people do good things, bad people do bad things. But to get good people to do bad things, you need religion. - Stephen Weinberg
@andrewwmacfadyen6958
@andrewwmacfadyen6958 5 жыл бұрын
The Roman Arena in Verona was reputedly where the last mass burning of Cathars took place. The largely intact arena is now a opera venu. Catharism clung on longer in northern Italy.. The last sizeable refuge for the southern European Cathars was among the fishing communities on southern shores of Lake Garda. The dramatic Scaligeri Castle at Sirmione served as what we would now regard as a concentration camp until the were herded naked over the drawbridge to meet their fate in Verona. Both the castle and arena are well preserved and visitors can follow in the footsteps and remember the terrible fate of these harmless innocent people.
@arturramirez7640
@arturramirez7640 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on the Aragones Crusade one day...
@joeturner1597
@joeturner1597 5 жыл бұрын
Beziers is a lovely town. I've been there many times. Carcassonnes is awesome. I signed the visitor book as a born again heretic.
@markb6978
@markb6978 5 жыл бұрын
‘The History of the Crusades’ podcast has a very in depth series on the crusade against the Cathars, I highly recommend it to anyone who’s interested in the characters and narrative of this particular crusade!
@AlannahRyane
@AlannahRyane 5 жыл бұрын
In my research, Lawrence Gardiner in his book on Mary Magdalene said the Albigensian crusade plan was not put into motion until after Eleanor of Aquitaine died. No other explanation, but the papacy had continually put pressure on Henry II which is one of the reasons he locked her up for so long. She had strong ties with her relatives in these regions. (curious choice to use Vezelay where MM's relics were said to be as the place where crusaders took the oath)
@TranscendianIntendor
@TranscendianIntendor 5 жыл бұрын
I'll have to watch this again. It is complicated.
@philbox4566
@philbox4566 5 жыл бұрын
I bet the Cathars weren't expecting that.
@jackmack1061
@jackmack1061 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating time and region.
@michellemurphy658
@michellemurphy658 5 жыл бұрын
PREEE FECTS Your dizylexia is showing. Alwaysa like.
@RickyLaneMusic
@RickyLaneMusic 5 жыл бұрын
The Perfects were a special class of the Cathari.
@harryflashman9495
@harryflashman9495 5 жыл бұрын
Umberto Eco's novel 'The Name of the Rose' deals with, at least in part, the aftermath of these events.
@LePrince1890
@LePrince1890 5 жыл бұрын
The incident is the basis for the novel The Name of the Rose.
@welshskies
@welshskies 5 жыл бұрын
A brilliant book and an excellent film!!!
@snilloc52
@snilloc52 5 жыл бұрын
The punishment of Ramon the VII included being flogged and humiliated in Notre Dame in front of the King and having his hereditary castle in Toulouse torn to the ground.
@rabignall
@rabignall 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. Were you ever a prof.?
@ixiairisborne1695
@ixiairisborne1695 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did a video about this. The atrocities committed against the Cathars, and others who were brutally murdered by the so-called Christian church for merely believing differently, shouldn't be forgotten.
@Casmaniac
@Casmaniac 4 жыл бұрын
They called me a heretic I said "Cathare you serious?"
@gspaulsson
@gspaulsson 5 жыл бұрын
Trivia. (1) The Cathars were also called "Bougres" (Bulgarians), from which we have the word "bugger", originally meaning "abominable heretic." (2) Simon de Montfort's son, also named Simon, became the first Earl of Leicester, after whom de Montfort Street and de Montfort University in Leicester are named.
@marcusvachon845
@marcusvachon845 5 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered why the Aragon region became strictly French. Thank you for the video.
@pageyjjj
@pageyjjj 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel but you may want to look up "rule of thirds" as it applies to your camera work.
@tomasinacovell4293
@tomasinacovell4293 5 жыл бұрын
You look really nice with your hair like this.
@brianlevine9732
@brianlevine9732 5 жыл бұрын
How do you decide what your next topic is? And also what would you say one of your favorite areas of history is?
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