THE ALLEN IVANOV CASE

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Eleanor Neale

Eleanor Neale

Күн бұрын

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@not_botheredd9893
@not_botheredd9893 5 жыл бұрын
Allen was raised in a wealthy loving family, surrounded by friends, and had a good education. After he broke up with his girlfriend he has the audacity to say "I've been through it all" and kills her.
@kimballlynn2123
@kimballlynn2123 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously, what a clueless self absorbed idiot.
@JennieBlinkXoldier
@JennieBlinkXoldier 5 жыл бұрын
Brat.
@dante6985
@dante6985 5 жыл бұрын
Want to hear something gross? All I did was Google Allen Ivanov and he has a "prison" dating profile saying he is in "tough and horrific circumstances". Aw, poor thing. And his mother found out about the gun, took it, and gave it back to him! Meaning even if gun laws had a two-week-wait, he probably would have done it anyway, yet he blames gun laws. Pure sociopath.
@ProLaxDog
@ProLaxDog 5 жыл бұрын
I actually hung out with him a few times before this happened. I was at home reading the paper and saw the cover and my jaw dropped. He was really quiet, into music production and was the kind of dude to buy fake likes on IG haha. Blew my mind when this happened.
@anna.i2494
@anna.i2494 5 жыл бұрын
Clint Waltman I also came across this and it was unbelievable how someone can just nonchalantly write that his “friends” describe him as “compassionate, amiable, respectful, independent, genuine, and optimistic.” After the fact he killed three people.
@scoutz0rs
@scoutz0rs 5 жыл бұрын
If he hadn’t done this to Anna, he would have killed a future partner. I wonder how he really treated Anna. It’s hard to believe he wasn’t abusive beforehand.
@belatedelation1215
@belatedelation1215 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda makes u wonder if that’s the real reason she didn’t look back after HE broke up with her. Maybe even relief on her part that he was the one to end the relationship.
@중국입니다홀딱반할만
@중국입니다홀딱반할만 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I could easily believe that he was abusive ngl
@alicehasnoideawhatsheisdoi5186
@alicehasnoideawhatsheisdoi5186 4 жыл бұрын
hey, so my cousin was actually really close to Anna and she told me that Anna was one that broke up with him because he was treating her super poorly and was abusing her and stuff so yeah...
@marcellina4270
@marcellina4270 4 жыл бұрын
She had a reason for saying No to him .....
@missmelodyjoy
@missmelodyjoy 4 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@SunniDae333
@SunniDae333 5 жыл бұрын
> breaks up with a girl. >murders her for not dating him again. Such logic.
@skylerricketts7392
@skylerricketts7392 5 жыл бұрын
For real!
@chickennoodlesoup4155
@chickennoodlesoup4155 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the spoiler
@ezkawa_
@ezkawa_ 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t read the comments before finishing the vid my dude, people usually use the comment section to discuss the case
@xviolaa
@xviolaa 5 жыл бұрын
@@chickennoodlesoup4155 this isn't a fucking movie there's no "spoilers" when real people are being murdered
@wiggl3s_821
@wiggl3s_821 5 жыл бұрын
@@xviolaa so you're not watching this for entertainment?? Cause i am.
@plantemor
@plantemor 5 жыл бұрын
He doesn't sound unstabil to me. He just sounds like your textbook narcissist who reacted to being told no for the first time in his life.
@user-jp1zr1qw7j
@user-jp1zr1qw7j 4 жыл бұрын
silja lin exactly and his court speech says it all
@중국입니다홀딱반할만
@중국입니다홀딱반할만 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly :\
@kunhang4523
@kunhang4523 4 жыл бұрын
right.
@raym.4342
@raym.4342 4 жыл бұрын
Narcissism is and unstable trait
@plantemor
@plantemor 4 жыл бұрын
@@raym.4342 true. But to say unstable implies that something vs be stabilized in my opinion and there's no stabilizing a narcissist
@LiBbYeLiSe
@LiBbYeLiSe 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that he sat in the car for 2 HOURS (whether that's completely accurate or not) shows me that this was NOT an act of passion/insanity/anger. Most people would have calmed down by then but this boy still felt entitled to take lives all because his ex girlfriend, who HE broke up with, didn't want to get back together.
@coffeeaddict3575
@coffeeaddict3575 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh...I'm scared...this is why I don't like people
@mommalionheart9051
@mommalionheart9051 5 жыл бұрын
Girl, same. This is why I love (and hate) that I don't have many friends.
@mariacooper3582
@mariacooper3582 5 жыл бұрын
Me
@SpoiledMilk.D.E.C
@SpoiledMilk.D.E.C 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@SpoiledMilk.D.E.C
@SpoiledMilk.D.E.C 5 жыл бұрын
But I Have Over 20 Friends.
@tsuki7168
@tsuki7168 5 жыл бұрын
Same like you never know what they might do
@esbethlace8950
@esbethlace8950 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing Anna’s family crying in the background actually broke my heart. I hope she’s at peace now 💗
@ltgothwifey8389
@ltgothwifey8389 4 жыл бұрын
Ęłšbéth Cöōch once you kill someone out of spite...they’re never at peace that’s one thing
@ltgothwifey8389
@ltgothwifey8389 4 жыл бұрын
Ęłšbéth Cöōch but if they fight back meanwhile on the verge of death that’s a different thing
@1stepcl0ser
@1stepcl0ser 4 жыл бұрын
💔💔💔💔💔
@fmoys1408
@fmoys1408 4 жыл бұрын
I know, bless them 😢
@gachalillian7848
@gachalillian7848 3 жыл бұрын
Yea omg- 😭😭 I hate that for them! I hope she is at peace🥺❤️ and I wish the best for her family
@dahntemascali8022
@dahntemascali8022 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is so dramatic, he broke up with his girlfriend, she moves on and continues her life so he shoots her?? This is absolutely heartbreaking, he doesn’t deserve any mercy ;((
@중국입니다홀딱반할만
@중국입니다홀딱반할만 4 жыл бұрын
Ik just because she didn't wanna date him, when HE was the one who broke up with her! And also those other poor innocent people who died just by being near him..
@MM-eq4nl
@MM-eq4nl 5 жыл бұрын
It's so scary to think you can just be minding your own business and someone can steal your life away just because you're in their vicinity. It's scary that you can date someone and they can feel so entitled to you that they would plan your murder and kill anyone in their way just because you don't want to be with them. That their anger is enough to end your life on the spot.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. 2 жыл бұрын
That's the US for you because we have a serious problem with gun control (or the lack thereof).
@SF-tv4bd
@SF-tv4bd 5 жыл бұрын
This is so horrible. Toxic masculinity at its finest. We need to teach young boys to accept rejection without resorting to violence, among many other issues (I.e. addressing mental health concerns, etc.) just so tragic and kind of haunting to think about 😞
@hippiefreedomdude5003
@hippiefreedomdude5003 5 жыл бұрын
Samm Fogel it’s not toxic masculinity, it wasn’t because he was a man it was because he couldn’t handle rejection. Just like a lot of girls. But you’re right it is horrible
@Snazzyzazzy99
@Snazzyzazzy99 5 жыл бұрын
Not just guys kill because of something as trivial as a break up.
@Demthorshie
@Demthorshie 5 жыл бұрын
I agree 1000%. Classic case of toxic masculinity.
@Demthorshie
@Demthorshie 5 жыл бұрын
@@hippiefreedomdude5003 Girls don't usually do this sort of thing normally when they're rejected. This is almost a uniquely male phenomenon and it happens every single day. It's a huge problem that needs to be addressed.
@hippiefreedomdude5003
@hippiefreedomdude5003 5 жыл бұрын
Dee Shawnte yes I completely agree it is most of the time men who do it and that’s addressed a lot. People will pin this shit on men in an instant. I just think it’s unfair to say “toxic masculinity” does this because he quite clearly was mentally unstable which isn’t a result a toxic masculinity. This case could have easily been a woman shooting a man.
@jenny-gz1te
@jenny-gz1te 5 жыл бұрын
I just can't believe it. HE was the one who ended the relationship! wth man
@serenacain2162
@serenacain2162 3 жыл бұрын
Right!
@b52incoming.48
@b52incoming.48 3 жыл бұрын
One more like.
@kelab4599
@kelab4599 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. But that just goes to show how much of a narcissist he truly is. He didn’t expect her to move on as quickly as she did, which clearly upset him.
@danaikolliatsas4656
@danaikolliatsas4656 5 жыл бұрын
His mum SHOULD have done more morally but CANNOT be held responsible for what her son did. She didn’t do it and couldn’t 100% have prevented it. He was angry, he’d have found a way
@trafficcontrol2420
@trafficcontrol2420 5 жыл бұрын
True. This is not the time to shift blame. The one person responsible is right where he shoud be; in prison. If that store didn't sell him the gun, another one would have. If he couldn't get to Anna at the party, he would have found her somehow. It's tragic that so many lives were lost because he couldn't get his way.
@susi5586
@susi5586 5 жыл бұрын
That Cheer Chick the lawsuit would have been a civil case though: they would have been trying to get money off her for her negligence in not doing more to stop the crime, not actually trying to put her in jail (criminal case). So she could potentially be found liable in a civil case
@QueenRedRosemary
@QueenRedRosemary 5 жыл бұрын
I feel for the victims’ families, I truly do, but blindly suing anybody and everybody is irrational. They are hurting and need to find a reason for why this happened, but they won’t get one by punishing others for the actions of one. The most ridiculous lawsuit was the one against the host’s parents. Tons of kids drink at parties and deal with their ex’s and don’t shoot up that party. They were all legal adults. Would they have sued them if they were in Germany drinking, where the legal age to drink alcohol unsupervised is 16? No judge or lawyer should ever entertain these cases unless there is hard proof that something could have been done. Allen Ivanov was a sick individual and would have shot up that party regardless of alcohol level.
@nicolealvarez3577
@nicolealvarez3577 5 жыл бұрын
She should be sent to jail for being a fucking enabler to her kids bullshit
@Moviesandcheats
@Moviesandcheats 5 жыл бұрын
@@nicolealvarez3577 you're ignorant and annoying
@lunarlunna3452
@lunarlunna3452 5 жыл бұрын
YOU WORK SO HARD FOR US WE DONT DESERVE YOU
@iwantmymomtobeaskanklikeei818
@iwantmymomtobeaskanklikeei818 5 жыл бұрын
lunarlunna so sweet
@SpoiledMilk.D.E.C
@SpoiledMilk.D.E.C 5 жыл бұрын
I Agree, And There's No Way We Can Repay Her Other Than Support And Kind Words!
@sophiebirmingham366
@sophiebirmingham366 5 жыл бұрын
lunarlunna Wish I could like this comment more than once I love her so much she works so hard ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@joannafruchtnicht-fisher3262
@joannafruchtnicht-fisher3262 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! She needs to hear this more often.
@michelewalburn4376
@michelewalburn4376 5 жыл бұрын
She... We don't want her to know that. Lol. I'm only kidding. I hope she knows how much we really appreciate her.
@yunilopez8211
@yunilopez8211 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine a person raping someone and they blame it on the bartender for either > selling him too much alcohol > Selling his victim too much alcohol
@nthgth
@nthgth 3 жыл бұрын
Being hypothetical, might as well blame the distiller of whatever vodka or whiskey they drank. Or for that matter, the Uber driver who drove them to the bar that evening. Or the manufacturer of the car that driver drove. Or--
@sharyebethancourt3660
@sharyebethancourt3660 2 жыл бұрын
@@nthgth it becomes a sick rabbit hole of projection and assigning blame.
@chickennoodlesoup4155
@chickennoodlesoup4155 5 жыл бұрын
RIP Anna❤️ Jordan❤️ And Jacob❤️
@athealien
@athealien 3 жыл бұрын
Omg it's Flora- 👁👄👁
@ЛунаЧемерлић
@ЛунаЧемерлић 5 жыл бұрын
Her channel deserves M O R E ATTENTION!
@abbeybuckingham6797
@abbeybuckingham6797 5 жыл бұрын
루나 thankyou, I work very hard on my videos!! ❤️❤️
@nayabiftikhar3912
@nayabiftikhar3912 5 жыл бұрын
TRUUUE
@ЛунаЧемерлић
@ЛунаЧемерлић 5 жыл бұрын
@Why Art? Why Me? duuuhhh
@didthattbecerra7354
@didthattbecerra7354 5 жыл бұрын
Preach
@teahatingbrit3505
@teahatingbrit3505 5 жыл бұрын
Abbey Buckingham lol she was talking about Eleanor
@SC-qv1nd
@SC-qv1nd 5 жыл бұрын
I know I’m not getting anything for Valentine’s Day but at least I will get this
@pruriient
@pruriient 5 жыл бұрын
S C same 😅
@BTSARMY-ez5kf
@BTSARMY-ez5kf 5 жыл бұрын
Yeahh im with ya But we have food 🍉🍐🍈🍑🍒🍓🍍🌰🍅🍄🍌🍎🍏🍊🍋🍙🍚🍜🍞🍱🍣🍤🍗🍖🍕🍝🍟🍲🍛🍔🍳🍯🍮🍭🍬🍫🍪🍰🍩🍦🍧🍨🍔🍳🍯🍮🍗🍬🍞🍜🍙🍖🍕🍞🍢🍱🍰🍕🍜🍱🍝🍞🍱🍜🍖🍙🍜🍠🍌🍝🍙🍜🍕🍞🍞🍜🍙🍜🍜🍝🍟🍟🍕🍕🍇🍈🍉🍐🍑🍒🍓🍄🍅🍋🍊🍎🍏🍎🍏🍌🍠
@kaceywilliams723
@kaceywilliams723 5 жыл бұрын
im not either but im glad i dont have to worry about somebody or cry about some boy that i probably wont be with in like 2yrs
@bubblesuwu332
@bubblesuwu332 5 жыл бұрын
same tbh
@user-cy1jk5ly3x
@user-cy1jk5ly3x 5 жыл бұрын
@@kaceywilliams723 valentines is where a girl gives chocolate to a boy tho lmfao
@SophieKaye1
@SophieKaye1 5 жыл бұрын
Think you explained this case really well, I had never actually heard of this which is rare as I watch the news a lot and love learning!
@lexihenslee7262
@lexihenslee7262 5 жыл бұрын
same i watch crime daily all the time and i just discovered this channel and this really goes into depth with the whole case.
@SophieKaye1
@SophieKaye1 5 жыл бұрын
lexi Henslee omg me too I thought I was the only one addicted to crime daily it’s a bit of a problem 😂
@ElizabethHernandez-vi1vi
@ElizabethHernandez-vi1vi 5 жыл бұрын
I cant stop watching her
@AmysAttitude
@AmysAttitude 2 жыл бұрын
If you enjoy learning, please stop watching the news. There are many avenues of obtaining information that isn't the mainstream media. They aren't even correct about the weather and they absolutely have an agenda they are pushing.
@mariahchanteee
@mariahchanteee 5 жыл бұрын
This happened right behind my home. I remember hearing the gunshots as I spoke to my neighbor for our usual late night cigarette in our culdesac. We knew what we had heard were gunshots. Our neighborhoods were filled with the sounds of sirens from the police cars and helicopters. It honestly still shakes me up thinking about it.
@briarrose79622
@briarrose79622 3 жыл бұрын
I went to school with them, Jake and Anna were extremely nice and kind people. Anna and I did theater together. I was devastated when I heard what happened. Most everyone there were people I graduated with.
@Emilythematerialgurl
@Emilythematerialgurl 3 ай бұрын
​@@briarrose79622how was Allan with Anna were any signs that he was going do this
@fleur9418
@fleur9418 5 жыл бұрын
this girl is so beautiful i can't even
@ttpjuleslol
@ttpjuleslol 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny Demon she is really beautiful uwu
@중국입니다홀딱반할만
@중국입니다홀딱반할만 4 жыл бұрын
Fr and her accent is so cute ❤^^
@eggo3045
@eggo3045 4 жыл бұрын
Exhoétic 。 no wait I think he was talking about themselves, not Eleanor, if they were talking about her they would say cute, and sweet! 😁😁
@liveandletlive497
@liveandletlive497 4 жыл бұрын
Kool Aid sounds like you’ve been hurt
@theurbanwarrior007
@theurbanwarrior007 4 жыл бұрын
Exhoétic 。 the fuck up your probably a fat ass too 😂😂😂
@arwen875
@arwen875 5 жыл бұрын
These innocent people... it makes me so sad :(
@scarlettg2860
@scarlettg2860 5 жыл бұрын
I dont get y he hated her so much and needed revenge if he broke up with her like bruh
@ainsleysdelusions
@ainsleysdelusions 5 жыл бұрын
It's because afterward he wanted to get back together but she didn't want too get back together because he had just broken up with her.
@mjh7236
@mjh7236 5 жыл бұрын
I personally think he couldn't cope with being rejected and told 'no'. His parents were obviously good people but they spoiled him and it seems like he always had everything handed to him. I think when he heard that Anna wasn't interested in him anymore it was a shock to him and he snapped. It was fine for him to dump her - that was on his terms - but it wasn't okay for her to lose interest.
@maliefa5415
@maliefa5415 5 жыл бұрын
MJ H I completely agree he obviously wasn’t used to not getting his own way
@_verah_7993
@_verah_7993 5 жыл бұрын
He is just an entitled piece of shit who can't handle rejection
@skylerricketts7392
@skylerricketts7392 5 жыл бұрын
@@mjh7236 Probably
@worm6533
@worm6533 5 жыл бұрын
Ana’s family in tears broke me
@claire6731
@claire6731 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that it’s ridiculous that a 19 year old can buy a gun But it’s still his fault
@maijashea
@maijashea 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it shouldn’t be the case but it is the law in the area, so it’s not the fault of the store for selling to a customer
@NatalieBelsha
@NatalieBelsha 4 жыл бұрын
He looks like half the guys at my university. Scary that someone so vile can look so normal.
@HugeniaCooney
@HugeniaCooney 4 жыл бұрын
I know, you always get an image that murderers are all old creepy ugly men or weird social reject teens. This guy looks like just a guy
@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN
@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN 3 жыл бұрын
Most Russians have that ability, they can camouflage in looking like an American before thier sleeper agent self comes out
@SassyCactus86
@SassyCactus86 3 жыл бұрын
Monsters don't look like you'd think. Look at Ted Bundy
@Mogijup
@Mogijup 3 жыл бұрын
@@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN I think that his adopted parents were Russian not him
@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN
@Timothee_Chalamet_CMBYN 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mogijup no he’s Russian 🤣. Russian American.
@Nani-0613
@Nani-0613 5 жыл бұрын
So Allen broke up with his girlfriend, she didn't take him back; so he killed her and other people for no reason. This is devastating to hear, why not just wait some time to see if she would want to at least be friends he could have apologized why was he mad at her when HE broke it off with her. Her family didn't deserve to have this happen to them, especially over a break up. The families of the other people who were killed or injured they were just there and he shot them which also sucks they weren't the target. I feel that Allen along with other other adults were to blame , underage drinking at a party. If he was not mentally okay then why let him but a gun, he's been angry and wrote or texted these things while not warn someone or tell the police?
@LL-ni3hp
@LL-ni3hp 5 жыл бұрын
Even if she broke up with him he had no reason to act out like this
@drewlacey1044
@drewlacey1044 5 жыл бұрын
ur literally the only person who has mentioned the boys dying not just the girl. it’s all so sad but other people don’t seem to care that he killed others just because he “wasn’t targeting them”. thank you
@one_us
@one_us 5 жыл бұрын
omg bobby-
@tiffanyvoerman
@tiffanyvoerman 5 жыл бұрын
Unrelated but; I'm so used to people having BTS profile pics~ it's so refreshing to see Bobby
@nationssunshinefelix4482
@nationssunshinefelix4482 4 жыл бұрын
I like your pfp Sarawatine❤
@karolkatherine5433
@karolkatherine5433 5 жыл бұрын
Never knew about this one...wow such sad story. A boy that was used to have it all and not hear a NO for answer did such evil thing,just cause he couldn't manage being rejected.
@allie4119
@allie4119 4 жыл бұрын
Well, he broke up with her so like at every angle its 100% his fault
@Luna_Kosane
@Luna_Kosane 3 жыл бұрын
I think that even though he broke up with her, he still couldn't stand the thought of her potentially moving on and being with someone else. So, he tried to ask her to take him back and when she said 'no', he had that kind of "If I can't have her, no one can" mentality. He also showed spite by killing those other people who had nothing to do with a relationship. It shows what a narcissist he truly was. I had a boyfriend who cheated on me, broke up with me, then about a year and a few months later when I had finally gotten into another relationship, he threatened to tell this guy all sorts of lies about me just so he would leave me. I know it's nowhere near as bad as the story in the video, but it shows that there are people out there who think that they're entitled to everything and everyone.
@nataliamaryam9342
@nataliamaryam9342 5 жыл бұрын
I find it disgusting that he blamed the gun shop when looking in the eyes of her family. This is why we need gun control
@KawaiiKandikidPLURR
@KawaiiKandikidPLURR 5 жыл бұрын
We do have gun control, you mean stricter gun control?
@kylieh7896
@kylieh7896 5 жыл бұрын
This comment is very ironic. So are you blaming the gun store too?
@GIGIAUB5
@GIGIAUB5 5 жыл бұрын
@@kylieh7896 I think they are blaming the fact that America doesn't have a lot of rules or regulations to be able to acquire a gun in the first place. I live in Tasmania, when the shootings at port Arthur happened back in '96 and 35 people died with 23 injured, our gun control became very very strict Australia wide and we haven't had another. Maybe America should be less obsessed with their guns and more obsessed with keeping their citizens and more importantly, their kids alive and safe from the shootings that seem to happen every bloody year
@nataliamaryam9342
@nataliamaryam9342 5 жыл бұрын
Karuta Roromiya yeah, bad choice of words
@nataliamaryam9342
@nataliamaryam9342 5 жыл бұрын
Annie Hill no actually. I’m blaming the fact that he did that and his mother gave the gun back to him. He killed people. I’m not letting that slide bc of gun control. But I think we need to learn from this and make it a law that you can only buy guns if you are at the legal adult age. It’s not the shops fault. It’s their job
@kesharaa2355
@kesharaa2355 5 жыл бұрын
He was extremely entitled. He figure that she should have wanted to get back with him and when he didn't get his way he took it out on her and other other innocent people. I've never been in a relationship and this is not doing my anxiety any favours.
@annalisegiovanni7032
@annalisegiovanni7032 5 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!! Have you ever heard of Elliot Rodgers?? He was another young, rich, arrogant POS just like this guy.. He Ended up going on a shooting spree as well..
@Saffron-sugar
@Saffron-sugar 4 жыл бұрын
@K Andrew honestly, I had enough scary experiences with ex-boyfriends. Dated because the world tells us that we're supposed to. It was definitely not worth it for the romance. Love my life now, I am lucky to have gotten through it. If you want to be part of a couple, wait until you find someone worth the risk to you.
@nthgth
@nthgth 3 жыл бұрын
@@Saffron-sugar I've found that "the world" doesn't tell you you're supposed to; it just seems nice so we strive for it based on what we think are the requirements, but since we're just guessing and approximating, results vary widely. Just my impression though.
@cichadette
@cichadette 5 жыл бұрын
The dad crying breaks my heart😭
@karinmarquez7859
@karinmarquez7859 5 жыл бұрын
I love that you are so respectful and knowledgeable even in the cases that not many have heard of. Thank you and keep up the phenomenal work!
@aaljustaal1890
@aaljustaal1890 4 жыл бұрын
Walks into gun store Purchases a gun Does a murder "How could the gun store do such a thing?"
@shannonrosenbaum7306
@shannonrosenbaum7306 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! People kill people not guns! Knives have been the murder weapon for me, should we outlaw knifes?!? Nope. Criminals get weapons on the back market!
@aaljustaal1890
@aaljustaal1890 2 жыл бұрын
@@shannonrosenbaum7306 Honestly, while I like my hehe funny joke, I would like it to be noted that I am 1. not American and 2. of the belief that while guns are available on the black market, just saying "well fuck it, they're just gonna get a gun anyway, crime gonna crime" is not a valid approach to legislation. By that logic, why would we even have laws in the first place? Why ban drugs if dealers are still gonna sell them? Why have speed limits if speeders are gonna speed? Why have gun laws if a shooter's gonna shoot? The goal of laws (at least as I understand from my legal philosophy class) is to act as a deterrent. Can you stop someone from speeding by telling them the speed limit? No, that is ultimately their choice, but hopefully the punishment will dissuade the average person. The purpose of gun laws and restrictions would ultimately be to restrict access for the average person and thus deter them (you can still kill people with knives, but probably less efficiently so). The more persistent individuals, those who use underground trading/the black market, are dealt with differently as the mentality is a bit different (sorry if that's kinda long)
@minadia7855
@minadia7855 5 жыл бұрын
12:27 if I was sitting that close to the man that murdered my sister, I wouldn’t be able to control myself, I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t be able to hold myself back. I would leap at him and try to inflict as much pain on him like my life depended on it until they stopped me. I don’t care if they took me to jail. It just angers me so much how he’s living and breathing and not taking responsibility for his actions when he killed so many innocent people. Ugh.
@carodompul2939
@carodompul2939 3 жыл бұрын
Same I have 2 younger sisters and if anyone is to cause them any harm emotional or physical I’ll make sure they regret it
@aproblematicdesire
@aproblematicdesire 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me not want a boyfriend 🤦🏾‍♀️ How do you break up with someone and get mad when they don’t want to get back with you ..
@oren1305
@oren1305 4 жыл бұрын
Narcissim. It's nasty and I recommend avoiding anyone who has the signs. You and many others don't understand his actions because you're not a psychopath.
@andrewusa14
@andrewusa14 4 ай бұрын
He must have mental health.
@llux
@llux 5 жыл бұрын
i feel so sorry for annas parents :( look at them its heartbreaking
@ashley-lo2xd
@ashley-lo2xd 5 жыл бұрын
Day number three and haven’t missed a day I’m proud :))
@froggie7745
@froggie7745 5 жыл бұрын
Benis Boi sane
@froggie7745
@froggie7745 5 жыл бұрын
i mean same
@SierraWood
@SierraWood 5 жыл бұрын
Another thing he tried to blame the attack on was Satan. This boy has no understanding of how his actions effected other people
@callmewaves1160
@callmewaves1160 5 жыл бұрын
He knows. He just doesn't care. A Self-entitled little shit who just makes excuses for his actions who was likely raised that way by the sounds of it.
@pukljica
@pukljica 4 жыл бұрын
Of course not, hes a narcisisst they never take any responsibility for their actions, thats why they are so toxic and dangerous!
@miriamelle864
@miriamelle864 2 жыл бұрын
It really is tipycal of spoiled children, they are never at fault for anything...
@karleyrosalie
@karleyrosalie 5 жыл бұрын
This case happened literally 20 minutes away from me, and it’s insane to me that it didn’t get more coverage. Great video!!
@serina_elaine1315
@serina_elaine1315 3 жыл бұрын
He grew up affluent getting everything he ever wanted. So sad his family didn’t get him counseling to deal with the rejection he was dealing with and maybe lives could’ve been spared.
@andrewusa14
@andrewusa14 4 ай бұрын
He was so lucky to grow up affluent I grew up for the first 22 years my life poor.
@Hopeskyesk
@Hopeskyesk 5 жыл бұрын
God those pictures of the dad crying shattered my heart
@oksanaastankova8360
@oksanaastankova8360 5 жыл бұрын
God there is something wrong with men they can’t handle being rejected and can just switch like this, I’ve seen so many cases like this where they take their anger out my killing it’s so fucked up and awful
@Laila-iu9os
@Laila-iu9os 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are insanely good and there’s so much effort in this that me and probably so many other can notice
@jannyerdinch7654
@jannyerdinch7654 4 жыл бұрын
I remember at the time when I was going to the house of my then boyfriend to break up with him (he was somewhat verbally abusive although I didn't really think much of it at the time) and my mom was worried sick and at some point she starter frantically calling me cause I had been there for hours. I don't think I realised what the reason was of her being so scared at the time but the more videos like this I watch, the more I get it.
5 жыл бұрын
MOTHERS, TEACH YOUR SONS THAT REJECTION IS OK!
@teresarivasugaz2313
@teresarivasugaz2313 3 жыл бұрын
Fathers too.
@arianagabrielasanchezdomin7689
@arianagabrielasanchezdomin7689 3 жыл бұрын
@@teresarivasugaz2313 Exactly!
@theorangedinosaur4098
@theorangedinosaur4098 2 жыл бұрын
Your childern*
@sharyebethancourt3660
@sharyebethancourt3660 2 жыл бұрын
💯🎯 🗣THIS‼️ There’s this TikTok where a girl is saying that if she’s out at like the gas station, that is not the time to hit on her - she was like “This is not Christians Mingle, this is not Farmers Only….” This guy dueted it talking about how a man’s number one fear is rejection, and how a guy is trying his best and she made fun of him. Rejection sucks, but sometimes it happens, and you have to learn to move on….NOT kill your damn ex! 🤯🤬
@tarachristensen3848
@tarachristensen3848 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite sayings…. Everything YOU do is based on the choices YOU make. It's not your parents, your past relationship, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument or your age that is to blame. YOU and only YOU are responsible for every decision and choice YOU make... PERIOD!!!
@Hannahsunshine-
@Hannahsunshine- 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like his mother couldn't have gotten rid of his gun legally. since it's registered to him, and he was old enough, she really had no right to do anything with it. If she was worried about his mental instability, she would have had to contact the police or have some sort of legal reason to prove that he shouldn't have it. It's one of those catch twenty twos, you can't prove it until something bad happens, but most times it's too late by then. I'm sure she feels guilty, but I honestly think she did everything she could have without getting herself in "trouble."
@Saighin
@Saighin 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video & old comment, but still wanted to chime in that you're correct. Her hands would have been legally very tied by the fact that he was over 18 & had purchased the gun legally. In Washington State where this went down, the *only* legal way to "get rid of" a gun like this - aside from returning it to the store - is turn it in to the police department for disposal. When you do so, the PD runs the serial number to check the registration, at which point the firearm would come back registered to her son not her & she would have been informed by the police that because her son had purchased it legally as an adult was *she was required by law* to return it to the legal registered owner.
@Laila-iu9os
@Laila-iu9os 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you always put the disclaimer in every vid a nice touch to prove u care
@snowy.ethereal
@snowy.ethereal 5 жыл бұрын
I’d never heard of this one before. This is an incredibly well structured and explained video. RIP those poor victims
@dianedael1924
@dianedael1924 4 жыл бұрын
I went to high school with them all. They were in the graduating class after me. I remember Allen being an entitled popular kid. Anna was very sweet. It was such a horrible tragedy
@chanellecutler
@chanellecutler 5 жыл бұрын
I went to high school with all 4 of them. They’re all older than me. But when this happened everyone was shocked and it’s effected the community. Rest In Peace Jake, Jordan and Anna
@llamalamp4807
@llamalamp4807 5 жыл бұрын
Hello to the 0.1% people that see this! I hope you have a good day though I understand things get hard, but don’t be sad and try to keep your head up because everything will work out in the end. You all are amazing people and someone out there is waiting for you.
@headintheclouds7905
@headintheclouds7905 5 жыл бұрын
@Error_-ct2vp
@Error_-ct2vp 5 жыл бұрын
I needed this ☺️
@jellyfishcandy5173
@jellyfishcandy5173 5 жыл бұрын
I really needed this today thank you
@abijm2480
@abijm2480 5 жыл бұрын
Llama Lamp I needed this thank u 😊☺️ my nannas in hospital, my grandma died 5 years ago today, my step dads best friend died 2 days ago and I think my auntie is getting her child took away from her soooooo 🙏🏻🙏🏻😭😭💔💔 thank u. ☺️
@llamalamp4807
@llamalamp4807 5 жыл бұрын
Abis Life I’m going through a rough patch myself. I’m sorry for everything you’re going through. My best wishes for you and your family ❤️
@taliaguillermo3563
@taliaguillermo3563 3 жыл бұрын
what i've learned from binge watching eleanor's videos is that we need to treat people kindly
@saratherandomperson7368
@saratherandomperson7368 Жыл бұрын
sameee
@croclife299
@croclife299 5 жыл бұрын
Just really enjoying this grabbing a box of valentines chocolates alone watching this is making Valentine’s Day even better
@erinfarine8454
@erinfarine8454 5 жыл бұрын
Croc Life I feel like this was directed towards me lmao. I just opened a box from my aunt as I sit in bed.
@chanelx5325
@chanelx5325 5 жыл бұрын
Omg literally same and I'm married lmfao
@ktanay1204
@ktanay1204 5 жыл бұрын
I lived in Mukilteo when this happened and I really appreciate you bringing attention to this case. It was a difficult time for the community to lose so many young lives, but also a lot of people actually still support the argument that it was the gun store’s fault, both for selling it and not accepting the return. He made the decision to do what he did, ultimately it was entirely his fault, so thank you for emphasizing that point. There’s a very real gun problem in this country, cases like this prove it, but you can’t use that as a legal argument for murder
@demirradavis23
@demirradavis23 5 жыл бұрын
My good friend Jake Long was also a victim in this. I miss him dearly.
@maiburntdownmykitchenagain9912
@maiburntdownmykitchenagain9912 5 жыл бұрын
Demirra Somine I’m sorry for your loss.
@demirradavis23
@demirradavis23 5 жыл бұрын
P01Y B1ANK Thank you
@ayva1127
@ayva1127 4 жыл бұрын
he was my cousin, i miss him dearly as well.🖤
@youdontknowme0w0
@youdontknowme0w0 4 жыл бұрын
@@ayva1127 oh God I'm so sorry for you Allen was so heartless killing others just because he can't accept a no as an answer I hope Jake will rest in peace 😔
@triciaflintoft
@triciaflintoft 3 жыл бұрын
So sorry, my friend Dave was his stepdad. Devastating
@soccerchic017
@soccerchic017 5 жыл бұрын
It sickens me that he keeps trying to pass the blame for his actions off on someone else!
@jaman_jy
@jaman_jy 5 жыл бұрын
can,,, people stop commenting "thanks for the spoiler" under the videos. i mean. "spoilers"??? real people have been killed, it's not a tv show, wtf
@hope898xx
@hope898xx 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a video made for entertainment purposes spoilers are a valid thing 😂
@mamamickey2708
@mamamickey2708 4 жыл бұрын
Mental health is so important. Mental illness is real. It’s easy to say I was mentally ill but he showed so many signs. It’s truly sad for everyone that was involved.
@kaylynnroberts2173
@kaylynnroberts2173 5 жыл бұрын
I have constantly had to reject the same boy over and over again, and this got me thinking about whether I should’ve said yes or risk getting killed. I shouldn’t have to be scared about being murdered just because I don’t want to go out with you
@chloewalkling6655
@chloewalkling6655 5 жыл бұрын
I am never having another boyfriend so i can never have an ex boyfriend so i can never get murdered.
@JELIZABETHG
@JELIZABETHG 5 жыл бұрын
Pastel Chloe 😂😂😂
@chloebeckett9274
@chloebeckett9274 5 жыл бұрын
Pastel Chloe you could still get murdered any other way you know that right😂 no point avoiding men
@chloewalkling6655
@chloewalkling6655 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll just stay in my house... not even the postman can see me in case he murders me, or my family because we all know from Eleanor’s other videos that even family can kill. You know what i cant even have a dog because it might turn rabid and kill me, even a hamster... This took a dark turn
@chloebeckett9274
@chloebeckett9274 5 жыл бұрын
Pastel Chloe you are funny😩 your grow up and might change your mind lol, best thing to do is not go out late at night by yourself or get into some strangers car! :)
@chloewalkling6655
@chloewalkling6655 5 жыл бұрын
Lol im not serious you know that right😂
@agurl7408
@agurl7408 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently there is only 1 view.........put the meth down KZbin
@pinkbunny6272
@pinkbunny6272 5 жыл бұрын
Are you sure it is just meth? Couldn't be coke as a pair to meth?
@Haybalemelonhead
@Haybalemelonhead 5 жыл бұрын
I think KZbin is doing something stronger
@hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5
@hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5 5 жыл бұрын
they’re on heroin and steroids
@gloom1est
@gloom1est 5 жыл бұрын
crack
@casuallycheese
@casuallycheese 5 жыл бұрын
Krokodil and Purple drank
@graceatbest2651
@graceatbest2651 5 жыл бұрын
Subtitles are horrific with your Yorkshire accent I’m screaming
@pruriient
@pruriient 5 жыл бұрын
Omg I’m deaddd
@lunecakes
@lunecakes 5 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the interviews with Jodie Whittaker the subtitles are wild. "ooderzfield" instead of Huddersfield. We do have a v special accent in yorkshire.
@graceatbest2651
@graceatbest2651 5 жыл бұрын
lesbihonest girlsarehot mate I’d die if I heard subtitles for my accent
@graceatbest2651
@graceatbest2651 5 жыл бұрын
lesbihonest girlsarehot I meant read lol
@nicoleengelbrecht8136
@nicoleengelbrecht8136 5 жыл бұрын
I turn subtitles off. They are super irritating and not necessary for anyone except the hearing-impaired.
@court1293
@court1293 5 жыл бұрын
This was in my home town! I still remember when this all happened... really unfortunate and upsetting case! Thanks for covering 💖
@melonz61898
@melonz61898 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized you made a video on this case. Anna was so so great and always so kind and had such a bright future. Thank you for making this video 🙏🏼 Our community and their families were hit so hard by these losses😔
@salmadouieb9322
@salmadouieb9322 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I’m in the uk so I don’t have to worry everyday about getting shot to death🤦🏽‍♀️
@salmadouieb9322
@salmadouieb9322 5 жыл бұрын
elidescxnt :/ true true, but still stabbings are more up close so at least you can try to defend yourself, no ones stands a chance against a gun
@Saffron-sugar
@Saffron-sugar 4 жыл бұрын
yes! I moved to the USA and it is nuts here. Every-time there's a mass shooting, people call for more guns. I think (hope) they like the wild west aspect, of it all, because it defies actual logic.Statistics have no power here. Most people I meet who want guns to protect themselves from crazy people are freaking crazy themselves. snake biting it's own tail.
@miab9231
@miab9231 3 жыл бұрын
@@Saffron-sugar it's sad that people like me who have lived in the US all their lives are used to hearing about shootings. like if someone says "oh did you hear about that shooting?", it's like "which one"
@Luna_Kosane
@Luna_Kosane 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Australia now and the gun laws here are so strict. Like, you have to go through probably one of the most extensive background checks I've ever seen just to be issued a license to own a gun. You also have to keep a record of how many bullets you own at any time. If you do use the gun, you have to say what it was used for, where it was used, how many bullets you used, etc. Shootings have happened here, but nowhere near as much as the US.
@yesimlesbian3422
@yesimlesbian3422 3 жыл бұрын
@@Saffron-sugar no one calls for more guns, people call for gun control
@millyess247
@millyess247 5 жыл бұрын
just wanted to mention, if you're in the north-west are, there's a 15-year-old boy missing since December 29th 2018 from Carnforth. his name is James Joyce
@user-sf1cy2hm1q
@user-sf1cy2hm1q 3 жыл бұрын
Has he been found
@millyess247
@millyess247 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-sf1cy2hm1q yes I believe so, can't find much on a Google search but Facebook says he was found in Merseyside
@yak1572
@yak1572 5 жыл бұрын
You kill her for not taking you back AFTER YOU BREAK UP WITH HER?! My god
@aprilowen2783
@aprilowen2783 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of this case absolutely gut-wrenching. I cannot imagine the fear those poor souls felt before they were murdered.
@thatsteffane9041
@thatsteffane9041 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this story Eleanor. I had friends that went to that party, 2 of them were there when Allen started shooting. There have been a ton of tradgedies like this in our community and we need change in mental health programs and to educate kids better about violence and weapons.
@reine6852
@reine6852 5 жыл бұрын
I love your content and your personality. Btw that makeup look is amazing, when you did it in red I was SHAKEN. Everytime you blinked it was like a flashing ambulance lmao seeing that a whole experience, keep it up!! These stories are haunting.
@armanilewis5538
@armanilewis5538 5 жыл бұрын
Eleanor just want to say I really enjoy all the hard work you put in to these videos and research you put in
@emilyanderson9209
@emilyanderson9209 5 жыл бұрын
never clicked so fast wtf
@softjimin7519
@softjimin7519 3 жыл бұрын
the picture of the poor girls family crying broke me RIP 🙏🏻🕊
@jordanc1492
@jordanc1492 3 жыл бұрын
Anna Bui was such an amazing girl, I was lucky to even be an acquaintance of hers when we were in middle school together, she was so smart and caring and had such a beautiful personality. This was a cruel and heartbreaking night in our community, 3 beautiful lives were lost. I cannot believe no one reported Alan for the awful things he was saying before the party even took place.... AND THERE WERE SO MANY WARNING SIGNS, “oh i didn’t think he would actually go through with it” is no excuse, Alan is a monster. good for Anna’s brother filing the lawsuit again the mom! Alan’s mom was aware of her sons instability and GAVE HIM BACK THE GUN she needs to be held accountable!!
@Emilythematerialgurl
@Emilythematerialgurl Жыл бұрын
So sorry had lost amazing woman and friend in your life because of that evil selfish cold hearted no good son of a bitch twat
@y.gorman6572
@y.gorman6572 3 жыл бұрын
Sad story. The gf that died. I met her sister in Israel when I was on vacation. She told me the story and to hear it from her in person is very heart breaking and I pray her family gains peace for their lost. 💛
@kaceywilliams723
@kaceywilliams723 5 жыл бұрын
OMG YOUR EYEBROWS ARE THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN THE WHOLE WORLD. I LOVE THEM SO MUCH! THE SHAPE, THE FILL INSIDE THE EYEBROWS! YOU GOT SOME TALENT OH MAH GAWWD
@DB-jh5wc
@DB-jh5wc 5 жыл бұрын
...
@kaymi2495
@kaymi2495 5 жыл бұрын
I remember this, so close to home & so so heartbreaking
@elizabethmackie200
@elizabethmackie200 4 жыл бұрын
I've been binging on these videos for the last few days ever since I came across this channel. I'm going to be sad when I run out after watching them all soon 😂❤ love you eleanor!!, Your Texas fan 😁
@darkangelholz
@darkangelholz 5 жыл бұрын
I bet the guy who’s leg was burned is so so grateful to be alive or not severely injured xxx
@shelbykruger7862
@shelbykruger7862 5 жыл бұрын
Jeez all this because he couldn’t handle rejection after he’s the one who broke up with her first. It’s not the guns fault it’s the crazy unstable kids fault. I feel bad for the family of the loved ones lost. This kid has the worst karma coming his way.
@ayybibi
@ayybibi 5 жыл бұрын
Shelby Kruger but guns are always an easy access, this most likely wouldn’t of happened if a gun wasn’t involved.
@kirstinjtait
@kirstinjtait 5 жыл бұрын
I love the way you tell a story, I never get bored or lose interest or skip ahead like i usually do in 30+ min videos. Your doing great I hope you get the subscribers you deserve!
@mariareyes129
@mariareyes129 5 жыл бұрын
This is the type of stuff that makes me wanna be even more introverted than I already am.
@cierabaldwin8314
@cierabaldwin8314 5 жыл бұрын
If you break up with someone, that person is never obligated to take you back. It’s their right to say no and move on with or without you and that’s how life is. people are incredibly, incredibly selfish
@jaydaobee1458
@jaydaobee1458 2 жыл бұрын
i appreciate you for shedding light on this case. not a lot of people do. and this is from my hometown right before my freshman year started
@molly3391
@molly3391 5 жыл бұрын
damnnn its a valenCRIME looking THAT gorgeous ugh im so jealous
@alexandriajewel
@alexandriajewel 3 жыл бұрын
YES I LOVE WHEN YOU DO WASHINGTON CASES
@Edelwiess1066
@Edelwiess1066 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many to choose from. Weird place..
@minari13
@minari13 5 жыл бұрын
sending love from Greece my dear💗
@Glammums
@Glammums 3 жыл бұрын
Such great delivery of a delicate case. Your research really shows. Thanks
@stephanieanderson4000
@stephanieanderson4000 5 жыл бұрын
Them courtroom pictures are heartbreaking 😭
@gretchinfidanza1204
@gretchinfidanza1204 5 жыл бұрын
seeing her dad crying in the courtroom made me instantly burst into tears.
@squidwardstan9103
@squidwardstan9103 3 жыл бұрын
Eleanor: He said something switched inside his brain Me: *Oh no*
@brandiheyer7422
@brandiheyer7422 4 жыл бұрын
yes, he shouldn’t have been able to buy that gun. no, that doesn’t mean he didn’t commit such a heinous crime.
@Mia-te2xj
@Mia-te2xj 5 жыл бұрын
may all those people rest in peace 🙏🏻 praying for their friends and family with such a tragic incident💓
@taylorpony07
@taylorpony07 Жыл бұрын
I live in Western Washington ....how did I miss this?!? Thank you for covering it ☺️
@marycahill8787
@marycahill8787 5 жыл бұрын
this will get lost in the comments so if u are reading this u have been chosen
@headintheclouds7905
@headintheclouds7905 5 жыл бұрын
:0
@ailsaallan
@ailsaallan 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ifloetic
@ifloetic 5 жыл бұрын
why are you writing like this
@maddyphilp9455
@maddyphilp9455 5 жыл бұрын
shall not be lost.
@str4wberrystarburst
@str4wberrystarburst 5 жыл бұрын
Wait But Chosen For What 😮
@cicelyamelia
@cicelyamelia 5 жыл бұрын
Yesss Eleanor this week has been great so farrrrr
@daniq25
@daniq25 5 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend and I watch love after lockup and got the idea to check those write an inmate websites. I found Allen Ivanov there. When I saw his pic (that one with him and his camera) I thought to myself "why such a normal looking boy would be imprisoned for life at 21"? I googled him and well I learnt about what happened. It really shocked me I thought he was a normal cool- looking guy
@Luna_Kosane
@Luna_Kosane 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely shows that phrase "You can't judge a book by its cover" is true in some cases. People are capable of anything no matter what they look like. But people are always quick to point fingers at the people who might look weird or behave weird because they're different from the social norms. Most of the time, we never take a good look at those who look like your average everyday normal people.
@valjayC
@valjayC 3 жыл бұрын
I love to listen to these cases when I am working. I am so fascinated by your makeup as well. I keep making mental notes of things I want to try!
@spectacular143
@spectacular143 5 жыл бұрын
I found you, binged watched a few videos, subscribed, then continued to binge watch videos.
@dragontatoes
@dragontatoes 5 жыл бұрын
This happened just a state away from me and somehow I've NEVER of it. The lack of responsibility taken... At the very least I'm glad he didn't get a small sentence.
@pshyoudumb
@pshyoudumb 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe his friends didn’t report him. In today’s world, I’d expect anything from anyone especially when the signs were that obvious 😓
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