THE CONRAD ROY CASE

Today's valencrimes true crime video is on the Conrad Roy and Michelle Carter text case
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[@rubydavison8461]

he was literally indirectly begging for her to tell him to live, so heartbreaking :'(

[@jarricah7920]

No he wasn't if he wanted to live he would have talked to his mom his his parents his siblings he kept talking to her because he knew that she would be the voice that he really wanted to hear which was the motivation to push him to do what he wanted to do in the first place that's why he only talked to her I know like it's really messed up and although she helped.. it was really up to him in the end and it seemed like that's what he wanted

[@dj0550]

@@jarricah7920 he was in a vulnerable State of mind and she know that so she told him to get back in the car she is a fucking demon

[@rainbowdino9310]

@@jarricah7920 your using the same logic as her. She knew he was in a bad state of mind. He doesn't need to hear things that would encourage him to kill himself. He was literally finding excuses NOT to do it and she continued to try and force him to do it. She manipulated him into thinking suicide is what he needed, when it wasn't. Suicidal people do not always want to go to their own parents to talk about their problems. He only kept talking to her because she manipulated him into thinking she knew what was best

[@petalsandpinstripes9905]

@@jarricah7920 take it from someone who was suicidal but wanted help, I did not want to go to my parents. I didn't even speak to my mother about being depressed until after I'd finally gotten myself out of it. Most suicidal people are looking for reasons to stay, and most of them won't talk to their family about it because they don't want to hurt them/don't think they'll understand. This girl was a monster who took advantage of him to get him to take his own life. from his texts you can tell he wanted her to give him any reason to stay. Maybe he even hoped that if she - the girl who'd been pushing him into it for weeks - finally gave him a reason to stay it would mean something. He likely believed that when she consistently told him to go it meant he was unwanted.

[@katyuwusha]

@@jarricah7920 Your take on this is horrible. He didn’t want to go and she pushed him into doing it anyway.

[@PrincessMeggs3]

I can’t imagine how this poor man was feeling.

[@ellatobias7664]

Meghan Maureen the sad thing is he wasn’t even a man yet, or just barely.

[@luneseserano5149]

It’s just so terrible

[@rebecca8836]

“What about my family?” “They’ll get over it.” That is not a girlfriend trying to ‘fix’ her loved one, that’s a cold and disgusting attempt to encourage him.

[@tammychapman2176]

I wonder if she can sleep at night.

[@raeshelled]

Yeah she sounds like a psychopath. If she was that frustrated with dealing with him she could have just broken things off.

[@______2918]

@@raeshelled she wanted the clout. How will she become a victim whose boyfriend ended his life and now she's helping others if she broke up with him?

[@luminous3115]

@@PsychoticRomeo if she got tired then she should’ve left him: not encourage him and pester him about it for weeks before.

[@goddess236]

@@JulezwithTrueCrimeReactions If she was "tired of his pity party" she could've left him. She obviously wanted the attention that losing your significant other would give you. At least that's what the way she acted after his death indicates. I could've understood your argument if she just wrote "Just do it then, I'm done." or something like that just once. Instead she literally brought it up for 11 days straight until he finally did it. Have you read the texts? When they were having a casual conversation she would ask "when are you gonna do it?" Out of the blue. When he didn't answer the question she started guilt tripping "Why are you ignoring the question? Just do it. Stop overthinking it." No videos have done this case any justice. If you read the whole conversation, as well as what she wrote to her friend it's pretty obvious he didn't want to do it. Claiming he "wouldn't have done it if he didn't want to" is like claiming that people that get forced into having sex by continuously getting asked until they give in, is doing it consensually. Him trying to take his own life prior to this doesn't say shit either. Some people actually want help but don't know how to ask for it. In their case the (often a poor) attempt is the cry for help. If he really wanted to die, he wouldn't have needed her to convince him. She spent days, even weeks just pushing him. Telling him to simply "do it now" and making him promise he would do it. If you don't consider someone who continuously tell a person to commit suicide for 11 days straight, even give them places to go and the "best way to do it" a manipulator I genuinely don't know what your take on manipulating is.

[@tellxbelle]

This case is so sad and it makes me so mad. I followed it when it happened and the court process. She disgusts me.

[@christineeXmarie]

Chantal Kelleher can’t stand her. My blood boils every time I see her photo.

[@Maria-tr1lp]

he was so vulnerable and she took advantage of it . She deserves more time

[@lisascarrott6142]

10 years i would give her 10 years for that its just beyond shocking and unforgivable instead of getting him help he needed he was bullied into comitting suicide and cheered on there is no way can i find she should be forgiven what made her do this to someone who was supposed to love and be loyal to and to support. She should have gone to prison for a very long time for what she did. She now needs to be named and shamed i thought her behaviour and attitude was appalling

[@ashalon8729]

@@lisascarrott6142 AMEN

[@Amourenjoy4ever]

@@lisascarrott6142 update: judge gave a year and 3 months (15m) her lawyer thinks that's to much and wants an appeal with supreme court.

[@denaturner8871]

SJP ! Didn't she say that in the video? Like, am I trippin?

[@connieteixeira2766]

All of those comments, they make me sick. She's already out for 'good behaviour', I can't believe it

[@beth9138]

if manson got life when he didnt physically kill anyone but manipulated someone else to do the killing for him then she should have life for doing the same. she's a murderer.

[@sjncore]

period

[@jarricah7920]

Not really because Manson told his followers to go kill other people who did not want to die this young man was saying he wanted to die and even attempted to kill himself two other times and then because of his mind being fragile and being suicidal in the first place her encouragement helped to push what he already felt it's really messed up but in the end he killed himself because if someone told you a person who's not trying to kill themselves to kill yourself I don't think you would do it

[@dj0550]

@@jarricah7920 first telling someone that is no suicidal can lead to the killing themselves so you are wrong. Second she told him to get BACK IN TO THE FUCKING CAR SO SHE MURDERED HIM

[@yourbadmate1963]

He tried to convince a lot of people to kill themselves too ?

[@yourbadmate1963]

@@dj0550 no she didn’t

[@govand7]

She is criminally responsible and her sentence was too lenient.

[@Amy-fg6in]

Agreed

[@katiecommon3614]

I'm genuinely curious as to why people think she should be in jail for what she did. Yes, you should never tell someone to kill themselves, that is morally wrong. With all the evidence though, I think she thought she was helping him by forcing him to figure out he actually didnt want to die. In any case, what he did was his own choice and this is an invasion of freedom of speech imo. I also dont think this young man would want her in jail either. He clearly had problems well before he met her.

[@bridgidthepirateelf4135]

I agree. I've attempted suicide many times and I've told certain people almost every time and none of them would say I should die. He didn't wear her down and make her think he should die. If she truly cared for him, she would continue to try to help him, but no she tells him to go through with it instead. She might have cared before but not towards the end. She encouraged a depressed, suicidal, easy to manipulate person to go through with his death. She even said she wanted them to be like Romeo and Juliet but she didn't want to die. It is both his mental illnesses and her encouraging him. She manipulated him.

[@caitlinclarkson6388]

Agreed

[@hwafans]

@@katiecommon3614 Maybe he had issues before he met her but she was literally forcing suicide on him? She kept asking when he was doing it? And helped him research on what to do and how to do it the best way etc? How do you not consider that wrong? And being a reason for her to be put in jail?

[@elietheshark1497]

Its horribly tragic. She played with him like he was a toy.

[@kimberley2058]

Rose Rottbuttons I just don’t understand why she was there for him and at times, convinced him not to go through with it and that he will get better but eventually decided to manipulate him into doing it? I mainly just have loads of questions based upon her like did it get too much for her to handle so she just thought about it that way? Didn’t she know how to get the help for him and maybe thought it’d be useless anyway? Did her troubled mind get in the way and think it’s the only way out in her mind so it’d be a way out for him? I’m just so confused by her actions. In no way am I making up excuses for her. I simply just want to know if she has or someone has some sort of reasoning behind her actions for her to change. I do believe she deserves punishment for instructing him though.

[@pinkpillow1650]

KimberleyC I believe that she wanted to earn his trust..? I don’t know the reason behind her actions but that’s what I believe. It could also be because she had a mental illness to. Maybe it hit her all at once and she went mental..? I’m honestly just guessing?

[@kimberley2058]

Bubbly Boredom yeah it could be! I suppose they both needed professional help.... it’s just so sad.

[@pinkpillow1650]

KimberleyC Yea, it’s incredibly sad. I just wish he got professional help not help from his girlfriend.

[@sweettea2553]

she deserves at least 20 years. She literally killed him. I can’t imagine how he was feeling, poor boy 💘

[@merp3373]

sweet tea she didn’t. he killed himself, he had tried many times before too, she’s a psychopath but she didn’t kill him

[@nicoledoubleyou]

She didn't literally kill him

[@lunaluxx6617]

If we are talking "literally" then no, she didn't literally kill him

[@chelecovers6893]

How is any of her actions involving his death literal?

[@carlypezzano584]

agreed he was so venerable and she took advantage of that

[@aprilrivas5071]

I will never understand how it was “involuntary”. She knew what she was doing. She wanted him to die and I truly believe he would be alive if she hadn’t come into his life. I lost my cousin to suicide and I would give anything to have been able to stop him or have someone in his life help him. She’s a monster and doesn’t ever deserve her freedom.

[@d.on.in.a]

I totally agree. It's voluntary more than it is manslaughter.

[@殺人光線]

Exactly, she was completely aware of what she was doing. And she knew it was wrong, otherwise she wouldn't be freaking out about the texts to him. I'm sorry for your loss.

[@Sailor.Nyx_]

because legally she didn't actually kill him

[@d.on.in.a]

@@Sailor.Nyx_ yeah she did, legally

[@AH-hn1zv]

That's what I was thinking. It was in no way involuntary. I don't understand how her asking him if he deleted the messages doesn't prove her knowing what she is doing is wrong and obviously voluntary because nobody made her encourage him to commit suicide. Just the fact the she didn't have even an ounce of remorse and most likely was enjoying this in my opinion makes her not suitable to be a part of the society.

[@plantycassy]

She is responsible. Michelle Carter deserves MUCH longer than she got. Just because she didn’t physically kill him she did cause his death. Without her, he wouldn’t have died

[@MintSodaPop]

She's a coward. She just wanted people to like her and see her as strong, but she wasn't going to do the dirty work to get the image she wanted. So she did the next closest thing - encouraged him to kill himself. She knew what she was doing was a criminal offense. She caused his death and did so intentionally.

[@LucyLioness100]

She is absolutely a coward & selfish. She had more than enough chances to help Conrad when he was begging for her help when he finally killed himself. And to befriend the loved ones of the boy you encouraged to do through with suicide? That’s so callous once they learned what happened

[@lucymarie7064]

he woudlve done it either way the amount of times he had tried before without michelle he still wouldve done it

[@scrunky]

@@lucymarie7064 yea but still she was pushing him, if he did really want to die he'd stay in the car, he got out and the forced him to get back in

[@sumeya1923]

@@lucymarie7064 we don’t know that. I wanted to end my life and I attempted ....I’m here now . He wanted to live ...he just didn’t want to live with pain

[@ayybibi]

5 years has passed. i still wonder what was going thru his mind in his last minutes. 💔

[@LucyLioness100]

He had to have been terrified & unsure at the same time. We’ll never truly understand his frame of mind since we aren’t Conrad, but it’s still terrible to think what he was feeling

[@autumn_garrettdaily]

What if it was "I just wanna go home now." Man that is heartbreaking I'm not sure I want to know...

[@stephsvids9812]

He wanted to get out. He wanted to save himself, so I can imagine, pure panic and terror but it was all silent because he didn’t want to upset Michelle

[@basicwhitebitch9970]

Me too 🥺

[@coleheinous1925]

the moment I saw her picture when you introduced her I knew which case this was. I've only ever seen her face, never Conrad's. It's so sad that we only ever see the face of the murderer and never the victim in so many cases

[@gia9551]

I thought the same thing and I’m so happy the title only included his name. She doesn’t deserve publicity and it just speaks to the level of respect Eleanor has for these cases and the victims.

[@cryingtm7237]

Right??

[@annaz940]

She isn't a murderer. She was trying to help him for over a year and saw how much he was suffering. And nobody could help him, not his family, not his friends and she couldn't either. She probably though she was making it better for, encouraging him to end his suffering. And That being said, I do not agree with what she did and the way she was behaving after his suicide is disturbing, but she did not kill him, he killed himself. I don't think she deserves that much hate because she assisted someone with suicide (not a murder).

[@coleheinous1925]

@@annaz940 did you even watch the video? Sure, she may have talked him down at first, but when you start telling someone to kill themself, belittling them for not doing it when they said they were going to, thats when things get to far. She killed Conrad, she wasn't there to do it, but she was the reason he died. If he hadn't listened to her, if she'd called the police when he got out of his car because he was scared of dying, he'd still be alive. But she told him to get back in the fucking car and just kill himself. Tell me how she's not a murderer for doing that

[@coleheinous1925]

She killed Conrad, it doesn't matter that she wasn't there to beat him or shoot him or poison him. She's the reason he's dead. Yeah, she tried talking him down for the first year of their relationship and then what? She just got sick of him trying to commit suicide so she started telling him to just do it? In no way is it acceptable to tell someone to kill them self, to belittle someone for not committing suicide if they said they would. If she hadn't told him to get back in the car when he got out because he was fucking afraid to die, he'd still be alive. Assisted suicide is helping someone who wants to die, die. Conrad didn't want to die, not really, it's obvious by how many times he backed out of committing suicide. He needed help, medication, therapy, hospitalization. Not suicide. It's not euthanasia if you have to convince the person to do it, it's not euthanasia if the victim is scared out of their mind, and telling you they have second thoughts, it's not euthanasia if you call them a coward and tell them to "just do it already". It's murder

[@mjh7236]

The fact that she befriended his family after she'd pushed him to go through with suicide is so disturbing. She deserves a much longer sentence, all of it behind bars. Also, as of yesterday Michelle was ordered to start serving her custodial sentence so at least that's something.

[@emmablowguns]

You know that Conrad told her to do that right? She also believed that she could still talk to him in heaven through texting.

[@rehuax2719]

TheProjectMJ she still shouldn’t have done that! 😪🥺 poor boy

[@stacybear2438]

That was the game changer. Very disturbing

[@stacybear2438]

TheProjectMJ than she could be a danger to others

[@emmablowguns]

whitehope thank you! Plus the thing they convicted her on - which they had to create a new law to do - was the prosecutor reading a chopped up and manipulated reading of a text message she sent to a friend three months after the fact. Hardly enough to convict “without a shadow of a doubt”

[@brennaevans9527]

She lives not even 2 minutes from my house. Sometimes I see her walking with her dad. She’s been holed up in her parents home since her release. She knows how we feel about her here.

[@peacestreetsoaps]

Wow... what does she do all day? I assume she doesn't have a job? I'm surprised they didn't move away.

[@solin3093]

can i get the addy tho

[@katelenjade]

@@ashleymiconi5321 oh shi- how was she 🤣

[@katelenjade]

@@ashleymiconi5321 damn

[@ashleymiconi5321]

@@katelenjade crazy right thanks for asking I always wanted to tell someone that story

[@saraallen5915]

should i be revising? yes am i going to revise instead of watching this? no

[@anna_5226]

*Legit same tho, geography can wait.*

[@phoebe9712]

GCSE? Same

[@saraallen5915]

thatsnotmyname german can wait aswell

[@saraallen5915]

phoebe yea boi unfortunately, GCSE german

[@phoebe9712]

@@saraallen5915 oof

[@maggieasbury1157]

He got scared and wanted to live, and she told him to get in the car, she was practically forcing him to kill himself. She deserves a longer sentence.

[@nicoledoubleyou]

How is telling him to do it the same as forcing him to kill himself?

[@rebecca.rf1]

@@nicoledoubleyou She knew he was venerable she forced him because she knew he would listen to her.

[@the4tierbridge]

@@rebecca.rf1 no, she did not force him

[@Elly-z7q]

@@rebecca.rf1 one of the comments on Eleanor's video about an abduction stuck with me... the comment said that students who bullied the little girl made her climb up the ladder to the noose being the predator teacher or something... and I think it fits in this case.... and for everyone else Conrad was a vulnerable young man and someone he trusted told him to go through with it, multiple times and he was at the lowest points when she managed to convince him and he did, so whilst she was not forcing him by the official definition of the word but she may as well have and she needs to be behind bars with proper help (for however long it takes) (also fuck off media outlet for saying that people are angry that she couldn't fix him when like did they actually read her texts? like in what world are her texts considered "helpful")

[@rebecca.rf1]

@@Elly-z7q thank you!! This was incredibly helpful :))

[@bettybebuckley]

I wish he met someone who gave him real love, what he really deserved. Such a sad story

[@dallas218]

Someone like u 🤔

[@gaylesbeautycorner1996]

I remember this case, poor Conrad - 5 years in July 😔💔 Justice system is messed up, Conrad’s family need their justice😓

[@kale9577]

If you need ideas for any unsolved cases please look into relisha rudd. To my knowledge, no other crime youtuber has covered her story and it needs to be heard. If so it needs to be told again

[@DarkAngel71180]

I believe LordanARTS covered that case. He is an absolutely amazing true crime KZbinr. He does in depth analysis on every case and he often interviews family members of victims on his channel. Check him out if you don't know his channel, you will not regret it.

[@kale9577]

Devi Wow really? Awesome! Im looking him up now. It made me really sad to think that no one told her story. I’m glad to know someone did :)

[@raquellefraser1637]

John is amazing I also recommend checking out LordanARTS :)

[@heather_doestruecrime]

I've seen this case covered. I first heard of it from KZbin. It may have just been from John.

[@chocolatemilk5589]

This case absolutely broke my heart. This man was such a kind soul. He just met a monster at his most vulnerable.

[@j.ashley9152]

This girl could have changed his life in a completely different way yet she chose this route? So sad

[@mariyarybak6109]

Jade Hansen it’s her mental state like if you asked a phsicopath why do you feel like this they would have no answers

[@illicitaffairs]

What she did is disgusting she made Conrad think he didn’t deserve to continue living and in no way is that true he had his whole life ahead of him and she all but strangled it out of him

[@ashalon8729]

She FORCIBLY strangled it from him. She made him PROVE TO HER that he would die at his own hands, not necessarily if WANTED to. When he discovered he didn't want to die, she made sure he did what he may have told her he "thought" would have wanted. We never know what we want at that age.

[@14Asterisks]

She MADE and FORCED?!?! How exactly? Guilt trips are not illegal last I checked, neither is bullying, or demeaning ones character. Immoral yes. Illegal no.

[@Evute02]

************** Who gives a shit lol? She’s trash and ppl like that should be in jail rotting. If not that, then at least in hell because that place is far more decent.

[@lesliealvarado6392]

Okok look theirs more to this story

[@lesliealvarado6392]

Michelle and him where daiting for 2 years and even though they met 2 to 3 times for 2 years she tried to help him and keep this in mind she also had depression, what she did was wrong but if you're suffering with the same problem you explode and she exploded because she was tired of him constantly ignoring her advice of staying alive so it seems as if she thought he wouldn't do it by finally just giving up and telling him to do it

[@CieraMychele]

If my boyfriend at the time texted me these types of things while I was suicidal, I would've gone through with it too. Its so heartbreaking because she was supposed to be there for him but she just confirmed the insecurities and demons he felt

[@christineeXmarie]

I live in MA and let me tell you... we all HATE Michelle Carter. This case has deeply affected maybe people in our state and our community. Such a tragic story.

[@pinkmissmuffett]

She had mental health issues. She wasn't equip to help Conrad. His family should have got him into therapy.

[@殺人光線]

How about SHE should have not encouraged and borderline command a suicidal person to kill themself? That's what you're missing. No one could logically be so upset with her if she just stopped replying to him one day. She is definitely not obligated to be his caretaker. Of all the possible approaches to this situation, she picked the worst solution. And that's 100% her fault, mental illness or not. Hopefully she could get the appropriate help she desperately needs one day. This could haunt her for life.

[@christineeXmarie]

Dolly d'Arling I encourage you to watch videos of the trial. The pain in his families voice, hearing his sister talk about it... it is NOT their fault. They saw another side of Conrad he wanted them to see. The “happy” side of him. Michelle was practically taunting him and checking in to see when he planned on killing himself. She’s sick in a whole other way. She doesn’t deserve to be let off the way she is.

[@shysailors]

sunny! same! Im from wareham it was so fucked up hearing about this in high school.

[@Heath450]

@@ruintherenaissance I live in Dartmouth and grew up in Fairhaven and she deserves to be in jail for a very long time. The justice system around here sucks!

[@SilentMartyrPhotogCo]

At first when they said she spent years looking out for him and then suddenly told him to "just do it already" I thought it was different. I was thinking like she had had enough of these constant threats and was trying to reverse psychology him to get him to stop making these threats. But then it got worse and I realized she's just insane. She ABSOLUTELY needs to be held accountable for her hand in his death.

[@kekenaniwilson6138]

i felt that because as somone who suffers from mental illness; my friends and i all suffer from different mental strugles and we often joke about and make it seem like less of a big deal and it helps, but once it got to over a week of her making light of him killing himself and even encouraging it. thats too much. if they were close shes probably told him to do it as a joke and then it became serious and he wasnt able to ignore her comments. i hear my families words of encouragment to stay alive wen i get down, so having such a negitive person in your ear is hard to ignore.

[@rennyg8627]

You should watch the girl from plainville on Hulu! I’m watching it and it shows how Michelle lived in complete delusion! I know, a show will always be full of scenarios that never happened but it you compare it to the parallels in real life, you can see how out of her mind she was. Like all she did with glee, and some of the ways she reached out to her friends, and interacted with herself and other people…. Just weird.

[@Emily-bh6pc]

And she got out of prison 4 months early for good behavior. What a joke our justice system is . She deserves to still be in there

[@re3171]

They don’t take men’s mental health seriously

[@Emilythematerialgurl]

@@re3171 plus if it was turned other way around he would've gotten the gas chamber

[@cassandrastaples894]

She pressured and bullied him into committing suicide - someone who was so vulnerable. *She's* responsible. She's also a disgusting human being. She knew what she did was wrong and anyone who feels sorry for her.. I just have no words for. I feel HORRIBLE for him, his family, his friends and I have ZERO sympathy for her. None. At all.

[@toml3051]

How many bullies get a love letter from the victim?

[@rhiisamirrorball]

Tom L she manipulated him into believing she loved him, that's why he sent her the suicide note. No one who truly loved someone would encourage them to end their life, especially after that person told them that they were scared to die and gave reasons why they knew they shouldn't go through with it.

[@Amelia1702x]

When you've seen so many of Eleanor's videos you've memorised her disclaimer at the start of the video 😂

[@brandyelisea]

Amelia Ramsell lOl YES! I recite it sometimes 😂

[@reginaa4589]

That is me!

[@scarlettsmith3114]

Yes,this is me! It's so true 🤪🤣

[@nyashagrace7145]

Before we begin this video, i'd like to give my normal disclaimer that i mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone that i talk about in this video. this video is just for educational purposes and is information that i have found on the internet and i'm compiling into one video. okay; so today's case is another solved true crime case...

[@vivenrodrigo8685]

I watched a lot of her videos and it's Starting to annoy me. 🤣 I skipped them now

[@kaitlynfedele6285]

This is genuinely one of the most disturbing stories on Eleanors channel I've listened to. This just made me so, so sad for this poor soul, being pushing over the edge by someone he loved and trusted.

[@katernachampagne3230]

She actually makes me so mAD. I've recently gotten out of an intense toxic online-based relationship like this, where my gf would panic me with suicidal texts, purposely not respond/answer my calls just to get me in a state, then would message back and be like; 'I'm fine.'

[@madalyn9151]

Hurt people hurt people. She didn’t want to go through with it herself so she manipulated him into doing it for her own gratification.

[@rorams]

i completely agree. that being said, what she did was beyond appalling and she deserves a much longer sentence than she got. it’s a shame that she couldn’t get help but being mentally ill is no excuse for manipulating your boyfriend into offing himself.

[@KatrinaJoy225]

Wtf. No excuses. This is more horrifying than any other case in my opinion, bc he trusted her and was so vulnerable. She was his one confidant.

[@InternetWAPx]

i think this one goes deeper than just "hurt people hurt people." yeah they hurt eachother, however she was in no way behaving like a hurt victim of mental illness. She even seemed confident in what she did, not a single time did she actually seem at a vulnerable position.

[@kattypig58]

A big stretch to say it’s more horrifying than all the other cases she’s put on her channel. Out of all the victims he’s the one who could have escaped this place he easiest. It’s definitely a shocking and terrible case but it also the least scariest of the lot

[@madalyn9151]

Yeah, definitely not an excuse by any measure. Just an observation. I was saying it more with disdain than anything. It was pathetic and cowardly on her part imo.

[@gamergirl48]

It's rare we hear the voices of the victims on this channel....and hearing his broke my heart. Especially hearing how much he struggled. He deserved to be heard.

[@as19J01]

You can tell he was very vulnerable and hurt. I just wish someone was there for him instead of Michelle. He wouldn't have done it if it weren't for her

[@sydneyellen.]

I honestly can’t believe this, she TOLD him to get back in even though he was scared and wanted to get out. She’s so manipulative it makes me sick 😒

[@MrAnnieMarie]

It is INSANE that she got such a short sentence! I remember hearing about this when it happened and it’s clear in my opinion that he would have still been alive today if it wasn’t for her manipulating him into doing it, absolutely disgusting in my opinion that’s not involuntary manslaughter she knew exactly what she was doing the whole time!

[@DarkJediPrincess]

Annie Robertson Honestly, I suspect the police only made it a manslaughter charge because she didn’t ‘physically’ kill him herself, so the law wouldn’t allow her to be charged with murder. If that’s the case, the law needs to be changed. But even if their hands were legally tied and they had no choice but to charge her with manslaughter, ‘involuntary manslaughter’ was 100% the wrong charge to use. This was a voluntary decision on her part. It wasn’t heat of the moment. None of the other criteria I saw when I looked up the legal definition of involuntary manslaughter were met either, in my opinion. Should’ve been voluntary manslaughter at the bare minimum, if not outright murder.

[@MrAnnieMarie]

Dark Jedi Princess I 100% agree she definitely should have been charged with manslaughter instead, I can’t believe she’s almost sorta gotten away with it and I see it like that because there’s no way that charge is appropriate for what she did!

[@kyoka1528]

She shouldn't of gotten a sentence for "accidentally manslaughter." She told him to do it and commanded him to get back in that truck. Her sentence should've been 2nd Degree murder at least.

[@sumeya1923]

Yep I agree . She killed him

[@napalmmuncher5413]

he chose to listen and chose to get in the truck. if she wasn’t there, physically forcing him or threatening him with violence if he didn’t get back in then they wouldn’t be able to charge it as murder. the law doesn’t run on emotion.

[@kyoka1528]

@@napalmmuncher5413 Still, there was nothing accidental about her actions. No one can argue that

[@kyoka1528]

@@napalmmuncher5413 so maybe bump the charge up to manslaughter instead of accidental. Or again murder. There was no accident in her actions. End of discussion

[@napalmmuncher5413]

@@kyoka1528 I agree with you that it was manslaughter. and I agree with you that it was no accident. I think we’re on the same page. but obviously it can’t be murder. I do think it should’ve been a longer sentence.

[@illoriachelsea2192]

I live in Massachusetts and I just saw her on the news yesterday afternoon. This case makes me so angry, I’ll never understand this level of evil.

[@hillarywilliams90]

I was an advocate for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention for several years, and I facilitate a suicide bereavement group in my area. A suggestion I have for you (everyone really), is to say completed suicide attempt vs successful suicide attempt. Successes are things you would celebrate and the death of someone, especially in this manner is nothing to celebrate. Just wanted to throw that out there..love your videos been a subscriber for awhile now♡

[@drteddy2609]

Some people find comfort in the fact that it was a "success" for that person in question. I get what you're saying, but what you're saying only applies to the people left behind, not the peace someone who committed suicide might have. I feel comfort in the fact that (if there ever is an afterlife) my best friend 10yrs ago will feel like she had success because it was the last thing she ever did, and is in a place she really wanted to be, because she sure as h hurt some people over here by doing that, so she better feel that way! . 🤷🏻‍♀️ I hope you get what I'm saying 😅

[@hillarywilliams90]

@@drteddy2609 I get what you're saying. Most if not all of our support group members do find peace and comfort that they are no longer suffering and they realize that they struggled so hard to be here as long as they were. They know they fought a long difficult battle and they are grateful that they were in their lives as long as they were because there are always families and friends who lost a loved one at a younger age.

[@ellenpettersson870]

good point!

[@valeyarde4913]

One of the definitions of "Successful" is literally just "having the desired result" so this just seems unnecessarily pedantic tbh. No one hears "successful suicide attempt" and has some kind of impression of it being a good thing or something to celebrate. I understand words have connotations but context is also important I genuinely do not think a change in language at all influences how people think of suicide or would change a suicidal person's mind about suicide bc someone said "completed suicide" instead of "successful suicide." I appreciate and admire what you do but this just doesn't seem necessary. Just my opinion.

[@oliviannichole]

Thats good. Thank you ♡

[@ramonaaaa.r]

Honestly, she makes me sick. She took advantage of Conrad, an amazing boy, and pressured him SO hard, knowing that he was vulnerable. She’s disgusting. 😞

[@conigliana]

she's like walmart version of cara delevingne

[@libbylivvy]

😂😂😂 dunno why i found this comment so funny 🤣

[@oliviarasheedbrown]

ana a I literally was sitting here like "she reminds me of that English actress" and I couldn't think of her name. I'm dead 💀

[@jenniferirizarry88]

Lmao omg god forgive me for laughing about this

[@katdevona6127]

She looks more like that thing if lord of the rings

[@conigliana]

@@katdevona6127 if smeagol and cara had a child

[@maddiebenard9138]

I literally live where this happened, and like, know all these people. You did a really amazing job with the facts!

[@fiercelnu6985]

Where do you live? Do you have Snapchat??

[@fiercelnu6985]

Let connect and get in touch

[@crestsker]

@@fiercelnu6985 You are... so weird. Leave the internet ladies alone, son.

[@fiercelnu6985]

@@crestsker its just a saying. I'm a normal regular person whose just asking because it furiates me. I'd like to get to know more about this guy through others to find him myself. Ofcourse it impossible because I have my own life. And im a woman by the way. Im sure people are smart enough to not give out their real information online. My gosh. Relax dude

[@hhhope]

Unfortunately, not all people are that smart. Some have the intelligence of a peanut!

[@lilyrosem]

It’s been a few years but I still want to say my piece: my mum suicided and I know what it’s like to lose someone this way. I spent HOURS, DAYS, MONTHS trying to convince her not to kill herself and she did anyway. To think that someone did the opposite is just mind boggling... how dare she! She deserves more time. A lot more time.

[@AH-hn1zv]

"Most likely to brighten your day". Wow, how wrong can we be about people sometimes.

[@caragrace6167]

I love valencrimes and your channel is so respectful! also I feel like I can relate to you! your hair is sort of ginger/brown and so is mine!

[@megancooper9399]

Cara Grace • omg same girly, even down to the hair! Eleanor just reminds me so much of me and even her comedy is so something I’d say and do 😂❤️ But I’ve never “met” such a respectful and down to earth KZbinr other than her x

[@emilyhooson4941]

@@Vaude-Ville ginger

[@tillybutterworth1119]

I watched the film Conrad & Michelle If Words Could Kill and was so shocked!

[@Lisa-iv4ll]

She never wanted to save him she was rushing it so she could hurry up and get that attention ... obviously she can’t save him but she had the power to help him maybe call the police so they can try put him in a facility. My aunt Killed herself the exact same way I was 8! let me tell you my mother was never the same my aunt was 21 my mom who had no idea blames herself bc she gave her the car for her 21st bday as a present.. my mom thinks had she not had the car it wouldn’t have happened.. my moms been tortured emotionally for years my whole family has been.. I can’t believe this girl said get back in the car😭wtf my mom would died at the chance to speak to her before or during to stop it but she couldn’t my aunt never lead on how sad she was.. bless poor Conrad’s soul and may his girlfriend live in emotional pain the pain she caused that family !! Yes she was responsible he was vulnerable he didn’t want to disappoint her as well

[@Lady_Crispr]

@ღ Midnight Dazzle ღ Ummmm... that was the act she was putting on while actually doing the opposite. Did you listen to the thing?

[@Ki-on1ev]

ღ Midnight Dazzle ღ if she really was trying to help him he would have still been here

[@alexandrapruitt578]

ღ Midnight Dazzle ღ just because she supposedly tried helping him for years doesn’t excuse the fact that in the end she changed her tune and encouraged him to do it. The wrongs she has committed don’t cease to be wrong just because she helped him and tried to do the right thing first.

[@michellehoman5351]

I was a suicidal teen and spent time in a hospital because of it. I died twice and was brought back but spent 3 days in a comma and 4 more recovering. That was just one time of the many. I won’t go into the whys but I will tell you this. When someone truly wants to die they tell no one what they’re planning. They pretend to be just fine and never give any kind of clue. There is nothing your mother could’ve done to change it. If you want to you can show her this and hopefully it will help some. I lost my sister two year ago at 36 years old to cancer. It’s devastated me, I do t know how to move forward and can’t go backwards. I’m so torn up that I don’t want to go forward, I don’t want to make new memories she won’t be part of or laugh at things she would’ve found hilarious. It’s a loss that I don’t know how to live with and I still cry most days. Her grief is never going to go away but she has to stop blaming herself because it’s not her fault and if it could’ve been changed it would’ve. As I said people who truly want it all to end don’t tell anyone that’s why they can’t be stoped. They don’t show any signs or leave an clues and no one can change it but them. I got lucky and was found before it was to late. I’m grateful now to be alive but back then I truly wanted to die and I told no one what I was planning so no one could stop me.

[@yeshuaischrist9951]

And he also wanted her Attention by over and over and over wanting to commit murder.

[@emilycallahan4805]

I can't believe this happened 5 years ago... It feels like just last year this happened. I've talked one of my friends out of suicide several times. I'll admit, it can be frustrating, but I would never in a million years convince someone to go through with it because I :got annoyed" or because I want to "play the victim." I have many mental illnesses, but that is not an excuse. Yes, mental illnesses can mess with someone's thinking or emotions, but it rarely ever a valid excuse, especially in cases like this. You can't control your emotions, but the majority of the time you can control your actions and how your emotions influence them. A reason is one thing, an excuse is another.

[@sydIRISH]

Last year feels like 5 years ago. Fuck 2020

[@veronicasawyer9801]

i feel so bad for him ☹️☹️ this is so heartbreaking especially during the part when he was talking about his social anxiety i started crying so much

[@jessielxo12132]

So as someone who knew Michelle Carter as a kid it doesn’t surprise me that she did this, she was a terrible person as a kid. I’m just glad that she’s being held responsible, even though it was waaaaay to lenient. I would love for her sentence to be much longer. Michelle didn’t have many friends because she was always mean to people. Thank you for highlighting this case.

[@SpacePriestess]

Proof that you ever knew her because I don't believe you at all.

[@jessielxo12132]

You want me to pull receipts for knowing someone from my young childhood and someone I haven’t spoken to in like 5 years? Mate you’re asking waaaaay to much. I grew up in plainville ma we both played softball at PAL and she was younger than me we interacted not often but every time was always unpleasant she had an attitude where she thought she was better than everyone, so didn’t her parents. I can’t really say much else cause I don’t have the proof.

[@sarahthegreat252]

Jessica Leigh ur obvs lying no American person says ‘mate’

[@14Asterisks]

I'd settle for proof that being mean or immoral is illegal.

[@carolinecat333]

@@jessielxo12132 If it helps (months later) I know you're telling the truth because I also played softball with her at PAL in 6th grade haha (her 5th grade) and yes, she was a mean. I can't believe Eleanor found something that said she was quiet....farthest from quiet of a girl i've ever met

[@l.dawson2089]

Georgia Marie, Danelle, and Eleanor?? We're spoiled for choice today, viewers!

[@Jake-oy4nr]

L. Dawson right??🙌🏻🙌🏻😍😀

[@catacombsaint9272]

... and I have my exams naxt week. But we all know what I'm doing instead of learning :D

[@chantell209]

Eehhh

[@tilda2903]

I love your profile picture

[@lynthorn1327]

And Shane Dawson ❤

[@leanzadoodles5354]

This is so tragic, I feel so sorry for Conrad. I do wonder what made her turn from trying to stop him to actively pushing him to do it.

[@heather_doestruecrime]

He was a beautiful soul. I'm sad he didn't get to meet someone that could truly be there for him. He deserved that. I hope he knows people care & I know how he felt. Depression is not easy or simple. Rest in peace love.

[@jacqui3230]

She knew Conrad was obviously struggling and not... I guess you can say strong at the moment and she took advantage of that to push him into taking his life instead of helping him, that's sick.

[@seokphile7625]

she probably pressured him into taking his own life bc she couldn't go through with it for herself. it was all for her disgusting personal gain.

[@kellibryant707]

Literally this story breaks m heart. He loved her and she didn’t care a bit for him.

[@anna-martroeland5967]

One of my friends committed suicide when we were 17/18 years old. He had a fling with a girl (I know this, because he told me about a month before he passed). When he passed, she started saying that they were dating for months and were so in love. His family didn't even know about her, so I think it was really sad for them to think that he kept something like that from them. She started to befriend them too and told certain people they can't come to his funeral, just because she didn't like them. Our whole friend group was and is so angry. Using someone's suicide to gain attention

[@serenitywitt1442]

i agree with you 100%. i know what it is like to lose a boyfriend to suicide. I was blamed for it but it truly was NOT my fault. I did everything in my power to save him but he was gone before I could even warn anyone else. I was on the phone with police balling my eyes out and when they got to him...he had already taken his own life. It's terrible but she needs to spend a very long time in prison and a mental facility because if she can manipulate someone over the phone to kill themselves, imagine what shes capable of in person.

[@ayybibi]

im so sorry for ur loss honey, he’s looking out for you. ❤️

[@LucyLioness100]

I’m so sorry for your loss! I hope you’re in a better place now & remember how much your boyfriend loved you ❤️

[@serenitywitt1442]

Alyssa Black I’m in a much better place and with my new boyfriend and things couldn’t be better. I have a tattoo to remember that one by but it was meant to happen. I don’t know why but 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@sab8620]

I'm from Massachusetts and when it happened this case took over my whole town. Poor guy.

[@Molly-kv5si]

I can’t imagine how poor Conrad had been going through. Suffering from depression is terrible enough but to have your own girlfriend pushing you to commit suicide is so upsetting and just... I can’t even put it into words. She definitely deserves a longer prison sentence. Thoughts and prayers to Conrad’s family

[@ayybibi]

suicide is a sensitive topic to me, this just broke my heart. how twisted & heartbreaking. rest easy now, conrad. u are loved and so missed. ✝️❤️

[@tamikens]

I remember when this trial was going on and when it was brought up that he got out of the car and she persuaded him to get back in. I remember thinking "That's murder. She murdered that boy." And she should have been charged as such. 15 months and probation is not enough. She saw someone who was vulnerable and susceptible to her manipulation and took advantage of that for her own gain in the worst way possible. She deserves AT LEAST 25 years in prison like any other murderer would get because that's what she is. And to think that people are trying to take her side on this disgusts me.

[@cosmicgiraffe4131]

So anyways she deserves life in prison.

[@mariyarybak6109]

Problematic Pines she doesn’t she didn’t kill him and it’s her mental health if he was a stronger person he’d block her but at the end it’s not just her fault he could of easily said no

[@cosmicgiraffe4131]

@@mariyarybak6109 You victim-blaming bitch.

[@tictac3147]

People who directly kill other people don't always get life in prison so why would she get it for assisted suicide? Especially when he already attempted it in the past.

[@mariyarybak6109]

Problematic Pines erm first of all I’m not a bitch and second of all u can disagree but I don’t care so shut up cuz it’s her mental state

[@mariyarybak6109]

Tricia Howell thanks but there’s a saying if u tell someone too ur gonna go aswell so sit down bitch

[@kjkalways8470]

Hi love🙏❤️ Thank you So Much for doing this case... MAJORITY OF US here in Massachusetts are DISGUSTED with Michelle.... 15 months???? This was on our local news again today because she is appealing the 15 months... she has a “slimy defense lawyer” and they just keep saying that he was responsible for his actions.... Most of us in Boston feel like she should be serving a Much longer jail sentence... I think at least 25 yrs and I feel she should have to volunteer for the rest of her life with people who are suicidal with supervision at all times of course or do something like that... she cut her hair short and looks really thin now... thinner than before.... meaning I think her mental health is not good,.... why would it be?? “Did you delete the messages?” If THAT doesn’t prove intent and guilt then I don’t know what does!??? Poor Conrad’s family, His Aunt was so broken on the news this morning 😢😟😓💔 God Bless Conrad and his family🙏 May they get the justice they so deserve.....

[@toml3051]

25 years for words? You can purposely run over someone in a car and get half that.

[@justagirl9224]

@@toml3051 Who the f cares. She manipulated a mentally ill person, to me that's worse than running someone over (I ain't justifying running someone over obviously). He was frail and needed care and she took advantage of it. If I lived near her she'd be dead, like freaking dead. I can't begin to comprehend how people didn't try to maul her yet. Killing a frail person obviously should get people more angry than killing a person that is mentally okay because they stand no fucking chance, like a child. They're defenceless. That's why it should get more time than running over someone that is more "strong" mentally. It takes a special kind of evil to manipulate a DEPRESSED person into killing themselves. A really special kind.

[@PimBose]

As someone with suicidal tendencies... I want this woman to be in jail. Everytime I see someone in pain, all I want to do is help. I do everything I can to stop one from ever having the kind of thoughts I do. Coercing someone to go through with their pain, instead of overcoming it, just shows total lack of empathy. She only cared about her own mental health.

[@amy-qe1dh]

Hi Eleanor, great video! I was just wandering if you could think about doing a video on the solved murder case on a young girl called Caroline Dickinson in the 1990's. I think it would be a really interesting case to review as my gran knew her. If not don't worry! Love your videos as always ❤❤❤

[@leamartin8392]

I can suggest it to her for you. She always asks channel members for ideas so next time she asks I will let her know 😊

[@amy-qe1dh]

@@leamartin8392 Thank you ❤

[@briannamottola]

I’m from Massachusetts and this case shook the whole community!😭 such a tragedy.. I honestly think she was really trying to get attention from his death and she completely meant to pressure him into suicide as sad as that is the receipts are in there and this poor boy is now no longer with us.. Two years isn’t enough time for her she needs to be locked up in jail and or sent to a mental hospital for what she has done.. she knew he was in a vulnerable state and she took advantage of him anyways to me she’s not a good person and needs to be held accountable for her actions and I believe a harsher sentence is needed for her actions

[@kaitlin4535]

the girl made him do it i seriously just wanna hug this boy like he was so vulnerable and she completely took advantage of it

[@bakalaurel]

I JUST talked about this case in my Abnormal Psychology class at university. Everyone thinks that she needs a MUCH harsher sentence, except this ONE guy in the class said that it wasn't her fault and that she shouldn't be held responsible in any way for his death. Like WHAT?! She told him to kill himself and HOW, she took advantage of a mentally ill person, and clearly she knows exactly what she was doing because she admitted it to a friend! Of course this case angers me, but it was on another level for this guy in my class to say that she had nothing to do with it. Come on.

[@charliesaz0626]

Bee Cherry tbh after hearing the first few texts I felt sorry for her- it’s hard when you are supporting someone who is suicidal every day. However towards the end she outright tells him to commit suicide. so that guy must have done some mental gymnastics to come to his conclusion that she had nothing to do with his death .

[@bakalaurel]

@@charliesaz0626 I agree, being in a relationship is very difficult when your partner is struggling with mental illness, especially when it's this severe. I just wish that she had either gotten him help or at the very least just not encouraged him.

[@sarahelloian9190]

Girls shouldn’t be responsible for fixing their boyfriends mental health or vise versa for that matter BUT this isn’t a case of that. This is a case of Michelle knowing what Conrad was planning to do and instead of trying to get him help and talking him out of it she was complicit and WILLING to have her boyfriend die while on the phone. She instructed an at risk individual on how to kill himself and that is inexcusable behavior and clearly she knew that because afterwards she felt bad, and she didn’t feel bad for helping Conrad kill himself but she felt bad because she knew she would get in trouble. All of her tears are because she feels bad for herself. That’s just one psych majors opinion though

[@petitechinoise581]

pretty sure all of us agree..without a psych major tho lol

[@JLynnEchelon]

The thing that upsets me about the comment Eleanor mentioned is that it's not about "fixing" him. She DID basically bully him into doing it though and that's not the same thing at all. If she had just broken up with him and not engaged in conversations about suicide, I would maybe agree with the statement.

[@knives2720]

you're not... wrong? but as a psych major you should know better than to try and analyze someone who isn't your patient, it's bad practice.

[@Dobetter15]

Her actions are so evil, I can not understand why she did it or what motivated her.

[@cerysfalmai8644]

I think Michelle's ultimate fate could possibly be more fitting than any prison sentence. I've been reading recent articles on Karen Mathews, detailing what her life is like after her release from prison. They state that even now, Karen is still being berated and shamed for what she did to her daughter over a decade ago. She constantly has to move from place to place every time she's recognised or word gets out that she's living in an area. But no matter how many times she moves or what she does, or claims to be doing to change, someone will always remember her and openly show their disgust for her. Michelle committed a terrible act to get attention but as soon as she gets out of custody, I think she'll find she's getting attention for reasons she never wanted. She wanted to get sympathy as a grieving girlfriend but now everyone knows the truth and that's never going away. Just like Karen, she's marked for life as an evil person. She'll be never again be welcome in her hometown, in her community or maybe even her state. No matter where she goes, everyone around her will know her for what she's done and even if she gets a new identity, the moment someone learns of who she was, she'll immediately become a hated outcast. Welcomed by no one, shunned in the street and driven out of town again and again. She will never be able to leave what she did to Conrad in the past. Any attempts she makes to start a new life will be short lived before being forced to try and fail again. I honestly think this will be the rest of Michelle Carter's life and I can't think of anyone who deserves it more than her.

[@sarahsmith4205]

Mitzi the evil ferret I used to think people like her deserve life in prison and some people do but that’s a pretty good punishment too

[@cigarettediet1185]

actually, Roys mom stated, shes the most hated in town.

[@doubleh333lix]

its legitimately like a mark of cain. i really do believe she will receive the pain she deserves.

[@Bigghaze]

Very true

[@rachaelxo272]

i saw this post on facebook that was all the messages of her telling him to do it and it was heartbreaking 😕poor boy 💔he got forced to end his own life 😪REST IN PEACE CONRAD❤️💙x (ps: i love ur makeup !💖)

[@mistyxmarlboro]

Watch Stephanie Harlowe’s video on this case!!! She shows/reads a lot of the texts & its fucking sickening!!! She also tells how their “relationship” really was, what the mother & sister said about her, & her friends saying she legit tried to capitalize on this shit! Unreal!!

[@Harry351ify]

Michelle Carter began her prison sentence on 11th of February 2019 and was released early on 23rd of January 2020 due to her good behaviour, serving 11 months and 12 days in prison. Hopefully, her peers know now it's best to avoid her. We all need to avoid that toxic person in our life.

[@LAFONESS]

What goes around comes around. She's probably going to do it to herself soon.

[@katieb.1184]

This case has infuriated the ENTIRE TIME I've known about this. Thank you for covering it

[@megansarrington4309]

I remember following this case as wel when it was going on, she deserves a longer sentence (in my opinion) she knew he was vulnerable and knew he cared for her and she used that in a way to manipulate him

[@jessicaorozco7114]

This makes me so angry and sad. She needs jail time!

[@sophiaemly]

valencrimes is the only reason i like valentines season

[@becschamberlain7086]

literally me

[@perfectlyyoubeauty]

Same

[@mirashabit]

Honestly mood

[@rvbyelise]

Sophia Emily MOOOOOOOOD😂

[@salem1577]

I completely agree with you. In a time of need, he turned to the one person he felt he could trust, and she told him that he should give in. She told him that it would be painless, researched ways for him to die and said he'd look after her family. She deserves a lot longer in jail so she can pay for what she did.

[@paige2514]

Could you do Solved September? Where you do solved cases (can be any kind of case) all September?

[@marissabrum6381]

This happened right around where I live and its so upsetting. Especially seeing people defending her actions :/

[@14Asterisks]

Just because people disagree with you does not mean they are defending her actions.

[@ayybibi]

************** how do u know they aren’t defending her actions?

[@sheluvvbarbie]

i was best friends with the same boy my entire life growing up. we fell in love and were together for years, when he fell into a deep depression. i did everything i possibly could. i called him every night before bed when he moved away, even though there was a huge time difference. i comforted him constantly. he just started to close up, and wouldn’t tell me anything anymore. it was heart breaking. one night we got into a nasty fight, and I went to bed. he called me 5 times. he texted me 17 times. i still have saved voicemails. i was the last person he talked to, his last text was “I’m so sorry, little fish. please keep fighting for the both of us. i love you so much.” i panicked when i woke up and called his mom. i had to hear her open his door, drop the phone, scream and cry. i was on that phone for 47 minutes. this is the most painful thing I’ve EVER had to live through, and hearing someone else ENCOURAGE their boyfriend to do this just to claim they’re a victim is actually nauseating. Suicide is never okay, and men feel this way too, and take up almost 70% of suicides. Please care for those around you.

[@kaesandi]

everytime i look at michelle i just keep thinking she looks like an off brand cara delevinge

[@CherylMcMinorrr]

She actively encouraged his suicide and then told him to get back in the car when he tried to back out... It's a complex/unusual situation obviously but that's more than just "not being able to save him" and I think that sentence is way too short.

[@ghostdragon5735]

I remember this. I got so pissed when people defended her. She was egging him on so he basically killed him

[@tellxbelle]

I had a mentally ill boyfriend who lived over 1000 miles away. We "dated" online my freshman year of high school. There were so many times that he tried to kill himself and I talked him out of it. I tried to get a restraining order because he began harassing me because I wanted to break up. He sent things to my address, messaged me everywhere, had friends and random people messaging telling me he's trying to kill himself. He said that if he died it would be my fault. I get that he "wasn't her problem", neither was my boyfriend I could have blocked him and ignored him. But I have a heart and it killed me to think someone could die and I did nothing to help. She should have done absolutely everything different and I think she's fully responsible for this and deserves life in prison. I think this was 100% her fault and I hate the justice system. I hate how she is being set free for what she did. I've gone through a lot of mental problems and that relationship took a toll on me but never once did I tell him to do it. I mentally strained myself to make sure he was ok. I had a judge tell me that I should just let him do it because then he'll be out of my life.... There are sick people in this world and he didn't deserve all that mental abuse. She *COULD* have done something.

[@tiffanygraceturner890]

I've been in this situation too 🙄

[@llux]

omg, a JUDGE said that?! thats crazy

[@殺人光線]

I'm sorry you went through such a traumatic experience. People will a good moral compass get taken advantage of from abusive people so often. Nobody should feel burdened with any type of relationship. The ones that try to guilt you into communication are self serving and don't care about the other party's feelings.

[@tellxbelle]

@@llux a judge in Massachusetts where she was tried...I guess they don't care here

[@biancam.5864]

I was in a really similar relationship and I totally agree with everything you're saying.

[@IagreewithDmitri]

Off topic, but your eyeshadow is gorgeous! Need a tutorial :)

[@nibble8884]

IagreewithDmitri fuck off, and comment that on her other channel

[@clutteredcaitie]

@@nibble8884 Fuck off, she's wearing it on this channel.

[@amygaskin981]

@@nibble8884 what the hell

[@chillyloner126]

@@amygaskin981 they mean that it isn't appropriate to comment that on channel where she talks about people's deaths, when she has a different channel that it would be more respectful to comment that on

[@kk6261]

My jaw dropped when you said the sentencing she received, only 15 months?! She does not deserve any freedom whatsoever.

[@lily-maevlogs7223]

I am glad that this case got some publicity right now also glad that valencrimes week is back

[@nyah1288]

She completely manipulated him, she knew he was emotionally vulnerable and she played at that. She definitely should get a longer prison sentence in my opinion.

[@amandalemus73]

She deserves more time. She took advantage of him, if she really wanted to help she could've gotten in contact with a counselor or his parents to notify them about his mental health. She continued her manipulation and took advantage of him to attempt to gain sympathy from people around her, so she can play the girlfriend of someone who took their live. She deserves more time than what she got.

[@ainedolley5438]

You always cover cases so well

[@jessicapowers6617]

THANK YOU....none of my friends know about this case and I felt sooooo angry when I read the article that she would be getting 15 months...15 MONTHS....and the involuntary manslaughter charge wasn't enough in my mind...I'm just soooooo angry about this thank you for covering it

[@keeley9096]

This is one of the saddest, sickest thing I’ve ever heard.

[@ameliarose1141]

Your makeup looks great in this tbh 😍x

[@kelseyf1944]

Please do the charlotte dymond case it's not about Valentine's Day but we are learning about it in school and it sounds very interesting

[@LoveSarella]

I remember reading about this case when it was still pretty recent. Reading the texts she sent him is what made me start to cry even harder than I was before. It honestly scared me so much. I text the people closest to me saying I love them and even wrote my dad a letter expressing my feelings (i was sad about the case) and that I love him a lot and hope he's okay. I was genuinely shaken and very upset. It's so scary how well someone can hide their pain and no one may know but the person they do confide in, guide them through the steps as if it's a video game walkthrough. I wish he had confided in someone closer to him that could have gotten him the proper help. It saddens me tremendously that it is too late. I'm also extremely alarmed that her friend didn't go to authorities about Michelle telling them that she instructed Conrad back into the car. Absolutely terrifying to me that it was "their secret." Unless I'm incorrect and she did, I'm not certain but if that's the case, how sad. My heart is broken for the family. Also, this is my first time ever commenting on one of your videos but I watch a ton of them. You have an incredible way of telling each case as well as being incredibly engaging. Surely your school presentations were awesome? If you celebrate the holidays, merry Christmas Eleanor and thank you for the quality you consistently put out 💖

[@sophielouisexo_]

Kendall ray covered this case a year ago ( I just checked) and you literally had only mentioned that they were both troubled teens in love and I’d completely remembered what had happened, it’s so strange how little information you need to remember this sad case, as the person he trusted the most, was the worst in his life 💔💔

[@tiasimmonds6417]

Side note - your eye makeup is adorable!

[@SpookiePookie999]

ik this isnt rly ab this case but when he talked ab his social anxiety I had to say something- honestly i hate how people disregard social anxiety and just say 'oh you're just shy, you'll get over it' like no, that shit can be crippling. I have literal anxiety/panic attacks just getting my food from the counter at McDonald's and it suuucks. reach out to your friends and family and make sure they're ok♡

[@lynndunlop2071]

I suffered from social anxiety in my teens/20s, all thru uni. I used a lot of beta blockers and alcohol just to be able to function on any kind of social level. It's a crippling illness and too much light is made of it. Be kind x

[@sarahshunpike1941]

She is criminally responsible, absolutely without a doubt

[@d.on.in.a]

Who else thought it was *Cara Delevingne* in the thumbnail?

[@rvbyelise]

🌟 Donatella Poidomani i thought it was a man😂

[@d.on.in.a]

@@rvbyelise what 😂😂

[@rvbyelise]

🌟 Donatella Poidomani idk😂