The Alpine Loop (Master vs S22)

[@skobuffs7]

thanks for the video of the two hottest current wheels. beautiful scenic ride.

[@kimpassey5618]

Awesome perfect video thanks.thats where I'm from. I've since moved.. And it sure was nice to see

[@tonymejias8171]

Cool ride. I enjoy riding up and down the mountains in Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 on my V12 HS.

[@eucaus]

nice set of wheels and beautiful place to roll. Cheers! subd

[@Auld_Moaner]

Excellent my friend. Looks superb. I've currently got the 16x but seriously looking at the s22 myself.

[@fxbasics5530]

I live out here in Utah so I'm glad I came across this video

[@FlyboyEUC]

Awesome! Sounds like there are at least 5 avid riders in northern Utah. You guys should join the telegram group and ride together. You learn so much from riding with other people. Just ask Nate!

[@EvNerds]

Almost 10K...💪 Now you know what kind of E videos we enjoy from you

[@dasuol]

I have been wanting to try the alpine loop. Good to see that there is a reasonable route for EUC the whole way.

[@senseivegan]

Awesome video!! Thanks for letting us tag along.

[@thecaptainandthewheel8506]

Regardless of how many of these trips I see, and how I may know the science and the math on the technology involved, it still just blows my mind to see these machines accomplished this and to personally do it myself on my Eucs. Amazing tech. It .ay not be the "Back to the future" hover board thats a decade late mind you, but these are even better I would bet. Dig your charisma brother. Keep filming and the Captain will keep checking in.

[@quantumtechcrypto7080]

What’s crazy is you ride fifty miles on one charge then realize I could almost do it twice!!!

[@greenwave819]

It's a great representation of EUCs to see a couple of riders wearing gear, riding safely, and being courteous to pedestrians/other traffic!!

[@Reawer]

7:55 NEVER apologize for such a wonderful view bruh

[@wic0929]

WOW simply amazing

[@ZenLee]

beautiful ride!

[@KK-ol5ov]

Great video

[@Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay]

Seriously jealous of your views and immaculate roadways there - lovely stuff :)

[@24lenard]

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE

[@tomsaloga5045]

Thanks I know now going to work 32 miles away will be no big deal on my S22. 😎

[@slidersgliders5516]

We are liking the 🦅 but had to do some changes to it . ✌️

[@Simonisms]

Beautiful scenery ❤

[@greenwave819]

Excellent, this is a prime example of what EUCs are made for!!!

[@thienpham317]

That was DOPE!!!!!!

[@tonymejias8171]

Thanks for the tip 👍. Regards from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 euc rider.

[@FlyboyEUC]

Really? I love Puerto Rico! My sister lives in the north east part of the island. It's so beautiful there. The food is amazing also!

[@tonymejias8171]

@@FlyboyEUC Once my V12 arrives I'm going for a ride in that direction. I'll let you know how it goes. Keep in touch.

[@tonymejias8171]

@@FlyboyEUC Hi friend. I finally got my V12 set up. I received it in less than 2 months. It is time record. Big difference between 6 inches wide tire to this thin tire. I'm getting the pads because is hard riding downhill. So beautiful views from the top of the mountains. Keep in touch.

[@alexwoerner1198]

Wish I coulda made it. Next time for sure

[@AndreiPetunin]

Feels like the illusive s22 won’t ever arrive. Thanks for the video :-D

[@noelleonard2498]

The final product better be spectacular as it's been hyped for well over a year now.

[@user-ke5xz1pr5g]

mines arriving tuesday!

[@AndreiPetunin]

@@user-ke5xz1pr5g lucky bustard :-)

[@dialecticalmonist3405]

A little birdy told me they might ship this week.

[@AndreiPetunin]

@@dialecticalmonist3405 my first batch will be here by the end of the month. Only after a year of waiting.

[@maxxsee]

bro I LIKE longer vids like this, 25+m vids like this is great!!

[@leeteemtb9587]

Seems to be your happy place. Ps just subscribed 👍

[@Conqu3rAll]

Listing the battery type of the master in the description would be really helpful since there are 3 choices. Maybe 2 choices for you from ewheels but not everyone knows that. Are you running the 50E, 40T, or P42a?

[@FlyboyEUC]

I'm on the 50e battery. It was in my range test videos I did on the Master. I'll add it to the description for further clarity. 👍🏼

[@greensark2417]

@@FlyboyEUC so you got 41 miles range with how much battery percentage left ?

[@FlyboyEUC]

Roughly 44% left. It's all in the description.

[@flrhsvslwpx]

It could be interesting to restart the same ride, but just inverse pilot/wheel.

[@greenwave819]

yeah, 20lbs is enough to make a difference. Especially gaining that kind of altitude

[@plash6738]

What percent battery was the S22 at at the end? I saw the voltage, but am not sure what the cutoff is.

[@InsanitiesBrother]

49% when they just came to a stop at the end. Not sure if the sag has recovered yet though.

[@FlyboyEUC]

The calculations say 32% if the tiltback voltage is 99v.

[@noelleonard2498]

Going to be quite a few improvements on the next master batch I've been told.

[@FlyboyEUC]

Yup. I can't wait to see what they do.

[@fxbasics5530]

When's the upgrades suppose to happen for the master? I'm really on the fence between the s22 and the master

[@plash6738]

@@fxbasics5530 the batch arriving in the next month is the upgraded batch. Was on the phone with Alien Rides last week and they said the upgraded batches likely shipped from China this week.

[@noelleonard2498]

@@fxbasics5530 thicker tubes, upgraded control board, mud guard. Optimized shock, hope that means usable stock shock. Was some of the info I got from ewheels. I was out on the s20something after I saw a teardown, that plastic slider suspension is unacceptable to me for that price even though kingsong has put some great features on it.

[@fxbasics5530]

@@plash6738 perfect I'll have to get in touch with alien and see what's good

[@thefoss721]

Beautiful ride wow! I’m definitely saving that location for when my Eagle makes it. And considering the s22 rider was 20 lb heavier that wheel did a great job with voltage Do you know the battery level at the end im not sure how to calculate the voltage to battery

[@FlyboyEUC]

Check the other comments. I explained it all there.

[@thefoss721]

@@FlyboyEUC it would have been faster just to type 49% lol

[@tiaguerra7002]

Wow long miles awsm

[@tiaguerra7002]

Wow traveling long way I like it

[@tiaguerra7002]

Ok enjoy the views sow sown wait for u friend man

[@Nautical33]

Boy you need to give us the battery percentage left at every point not voltage as both wheels are different battery voltage. I had no clue of difference between the two but a great video though looked a great ride 👌....

[@FlyboyEUC]

Percentage is the worst way to measure the battery since every app reports it different. Voltage is much more reliable. The Master max voltage is 134 and the min is 105-106. With the S22, the max is 126 and the min is 99-100v. Plot the 2 together on an excel spread sheet and compare the two. I do appreciate the feedback and have put my calculated percentages in the description.

[@dsd62983]

@@FlyboyEUC How do you calculate voltage. I can never seem to find the formula that EUC riders use.

[@FlyboyEUC]

I'll try my best. Let's use the Master. Take the max voltage 134 and divide by 4.1 (max voltage per cell). This means there are 32 cells per pack in the master. Now multiply 32 by 3.3 (min voltage per cell) and you get the min voltage of 105 (my master tiltback is 106v which protects the cells from draining too low). Now we subtract the max voltage 134 from the min 105 to get 29 usable volts. Now we just divide the available volts by the total volts available. So the master at 130v has 25 available volts left so 25/29= .86 or 86%. I could be off by a little but you get the idea.

[@dsd62983]

@@FlyboyEUC Thank you!

[@thefoss721]

@@FlyboyEUC instead of doing that massive calculation it would be much easier to just use two apps and average the battery for both wheels so you get a more accurate battery level, and you can do that for both wheels with different voltages so you can just share that in a useful way on the fly

[@plash6738]

What would you say gets better range for the same rider weight/riding style, the S22 or Master? I would assume Master and it has seemed that way with the bigger battery. But some people on FB are saying they’re getting great range on the new S22. One got 10miles @23mph and 91% battery @220lbs. I’m hoping the upgraded Master coming out will do just as well in range. **Edit** Casey Bretthauer claimed he was riding avg 23mph, but his screenshot of EUC World shows avg 16.5mph Avg Riding.

[@FlyboyEUC]

The only way to answer this question is to have the same rider ride both wheels at the same speed on the same course. Something I plan on doing.

[@plash6738]

@@FlyboyEUC yeah, figures. I look forward to your video!

[@omidel.]

Is s22 that slugish compared to the Master?

[@FlyboyEUC]

There's too many variables to compare them like that at the moment. I'll be getting my S22 soon and be able to do a better comparison once I've removed certain variables that affect sluggishness. To answer your question, it feels very sluggish because of the cheap knobby tire on it.

[@sroodtuo]

@@FlyboyEUC That is a super kind way to say I’m (the S22 rider) a noob! Thanks for that, but that variable Flyboy EUC speaks of is the rider. Fastest I’ve ever riden is 35 and that was just for a few seconds. I’m getting there!!!! I would agree that the knobby tire is limiting however. I’ll be putting a street tire on it soon.

[@electric_meadows_racing]

what wrist guards is the guy in the red rocking?

[@FlyboyEUC]

ENNUI ST Wrist Brace Protection

[@jaredboulderterry3912]

Wow I didn't realize you guys are from Utah county

[@FlyboyEUC]

I'm not but there are quite a few people there from the people who have commented. If you want to connect with them, you'll need to join the telegram group. Reach out if you want in by emailing me or finding me on Instagram.

[@MrKonatacalhoun]

How do you seat r5ide so well

[@FlyboyEUC]

Practice. There are some riders I know that only ride seated.

[@quantumtechcrypto7080]

We started at the bottom of Provo canyon. Rode up and over and down American fork canyon it was super busy with traffic. Going up was great going down was crazy the road had no lines so you’re in traffic. We rode down to the Jordan river trail then all the way to 12400 s. It was a fifty mile trip and was pretty amazing. Just know some of the route is on the highway and roads direct so make sure you can ride confidently or it will be a crazy trip.

[@quantumtechcrypto7080]

I ride a Begode EXN. IM 240 lbs. I started full charge and did the entire 50 miles with 41% battery left. I couldn’t believe it. My wheel could do it a second time but I could not it felt like my feet were literally melting off. It was foot hurting for sure. Wish I had a seat to take breaks..while riding.

[@DeathToCockroaches]

What's the voltage at 0% for both wheels?

[@FlyboyEUC]

See description. Please note these are the theoretical 0%. The firmware will most likely stop before then to prevent battery damage. For example the Master theoretical 0% is 105v but I got tiltback at 106v.

[@DeathToCockroaches]

@@FlyboyEUC what's the formula for it? Or how do you calculate it

[@FlyboyEUC]

Read the comments. 😉

[@DeathToCockroaches]

@@FlyboyEUC You could just not answer next time

[@eBoard3R]

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[@SolarizeYourLife]

Still no ks22....

[@FlyboyEUC]

A bunch have hit the U.S. and are awaiting customs and delivery.

[@bepriceless]

Not biased against the Master in any way, are ya? lol. Cool ride.

[@FlyboyEUC]

With as much as I bag on it in the video, the wheel is amazing. And since I don't currently have the s22 I don't know it's quirks as well as the Master. The Master could have been much better out of the box though.

[@bepriceless]

@@FlyboyEUC I'm still on the fence about which suspension wheel to get. The Master was leading the race, after the s20 fire, but there was too much essential modifications the Master needed. I may wait to see what Inmotion comes up with, I'm not sure. I have a deep on the S22, but I'll wait and see what everybody says when they start shipping them out. Happy wheeling.

[@toddfagan7703]

Men with feet an legs of stone😂

[@skiddysm]

S22 is better in every way other then performance! Little bit more performance for 800$ but worse overall quality.....

[@JamesSmith-pn3yq]

Seated riding not better