The Alt-Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low

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[@SheilaCrosby]

We should stop thinking of them as "The rules" and start thinking of them as a peace treaty. You're under no obligation to keep following a peace treaty once the other side breaks it.

[@gognok]

Shouldn't there be a court where you can enforce those rules. In my nation, we take those things to the Supreme Court.

[@nataliaborys1554]

Well, sure, but isn't that kind of a slippery slope? Because if everyone starts ignoring the peace treaty, then it's war. And war has casualties. How long before "I will not confirm your judge" escalates to "I will not sign any bill you propose unless it says exactly what I want it to" and that escalates to "Since they refuse to do their job, I don't care what the other branch thinks, this is law now and I will bribe and/or threaten the appropriate people to enforce it." That might sound extreme and like nobody would stoop that low, but we thought the same about refusing to hold a vote on the opposing party's judge, so...

[@TheRedRaccoonDog]

​@@gognokWhat do you do when the supreme court is just as hijacked?

[@statosphereonline2008]

​@@TheRedRaccoonDogmaybe a supreme court that must always change every 4 years, based on half democratic and half republican, with an additional seat that changes every 4 years between republican and democrat based entirely on a coin flip. At least that way nothing is set in stone other than some measure of neutrality, which stops the supreme court being swung one way or another. It motivates some sort of desire for coalition and compromise otherwise everything sits in stalemate.

[@TheRedRaccoonDog]

@@statosphereonline2008 That would, at best, make the scotus grid locked.

[@theocean1973]

“Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man. You take a step toward him. He takes a step back. Meet me in the middle, says the unjust man.” - A.R. Moxon

[@ToxicBastard]

Yep, that's the left alright.

[@Reflexzzzz]

@@ToxicBastard Keep screaming into that void my man. You'll find your dignity one day.

[@ToxicBastard]

@@Reflexzzzz "NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T COUNTER SOMETHING SAID BY A MENTALLY STUNTED LEFTIST REEEEE!!!!" I've realised the reason you guys hate dialogue: you can't win. Maybe soon we'll see if you can't win through violence what you failed to take through debate...

[@rhianimal19]

It's called #fascist Creep. Reichward we go into oblivion. The scary thing is that there is no one to stop us besides China & Russia

[@lunaad1628]

@@ToxicBastard why did you expect us to dialogue when you weren't willing to have a conversation in the first place?

[@Tokumastu1]

As friend of mine always told me. "If your opponent breaks the rules they just gave you a greenlight to also break the rules. If they complain that you won by cheating just like them, then rub it in their face that you're better at their own game."

[@chaoticdetectivepeach]

This this, holy sh*t this, why should you ever follow rules your opponent isn't, past like the rule of not being a gaping assh*le of a person, if mfer keeps taking money outta the monopoly bank, just take the whole bank, take all the bills, do it harder. So that being a POS isn't rewarded.

[@splaar]

Exactly. If one side breaks the rules with no consequence, and the other continues following them on principle, then the only purpose of the rules is to punish those who play fair.

[@davecullins1606]

That's the mechanism that has made sure that gangs in my country don't go after members' family members when they come for revenge. They know that if they start to go after the family members of the ones they want revenge on, then they will soon too lose family members.

[@samanthanewport6709]

They did it. He was right. Roe is gone. And they let it happen.

[@NickKrishnan]

4 years of prescience. it's just so sad

[@goroakechi8577]

You mean people voted to ban roe by voting for Trump. Trump appointed those judges

[@sharpgnashingteeth]

there was nothing anyone could have done, because the government is corrupt. they aren't representative either way.

[@NickKrishnan]

@@martinmartins7703 noun: prescience the fact of knowing something before it takes place; foreknowledge. seems pretty in line with how i used it

[@oliverspencer2411]

@@martinmartins7703 well, considering that one of the reasons the case was ever heard was because the Court concluded that an established exception to the mootness doctrine allows consideration of cases that are "capable of repetition, yet evading review" (in this case, Roe getting pregnant again, and pregnancy would normally conclude more quickly than an appellate process), and considering its embedded in other cases considering personal liberty in the realm of privacy and became a foundation of individual liberty cases, plus considering prior to Roe a pregnant Jehovah' witness was ordered to submit to a blood transfusion (for context jehovah's witnesses consider blood transfusions a violation of God's law).... yeah i think the overturn is a bad thing

[@anneabelle7098]

Republicans, 2016: "We won't vote on a nominee shortly before an election." Republicans 2020, before the corpse is even cold: "We're gonna fill the seat ASAP."

[@banonKING]

It's like everything he stated, cited, quoted, and alluded to in this video is exactly how Republicans operate.... Weird that.

[@fwdcnorac8574]

@@banonKING @Anne Abelle And here are you two doing everything he stated, cited, quoted, and alluded to in this video is exactly how Democrats operate.... Weird that.

[@kennedyhogan9484]

@@fwdcnorac8574 can you please explain wtf you mean by this and provide credible sources?

[@romanalba8447]

Wow this is very fricking accurate, permission to use these words of wisdom?

[@anneabelle7098]

@@romanalba8447 Sure, go for it.

[@Kyle_Schaff]

An add-on to the last lines: “The rules will not protect us from bad ideas. The only solution to a bad idea is a better idea *and a spine”*

[@victorconway444]

And maybe a molotov.

[@theluckiestmagala3126]

@@victorconway444 AND A GUILLOTINE

[@victorconway444]

@@theluckiestmagala3126 Even better.

[@ometta7]

Victor Conway And the severed extremities of their most cherished loved ones being mailed to their homes piece-by-piece.

[@TheParadoxGamer1]

@@ometta7 well this got extreme very fast

[@elbr3376]

"Sometimes being an adult means taking a kids toys away" I love this statement for all the needed condescension and real important message behind it

[@peggedyourdad9560]

Late reply lol. But to add to this, if the kid can't stop using their toys to hurt other kids then it's the adult's responsibility to take away that child's toys because not doing so would be allowing the other kids to continue to be hurt by the one who can't stop using their toys as improv weapons.

[@leyrua]

I've always found it disturbing that taking a swing at somebody is considered more uncivilized than politely informing someone that you have signed their death warrant. That robbing someone through violence is considered more uncivilized than crafting laws that compel them to hand you their belongings and starve. In both examples, at least with the former, you are taking a personal risk. But with the latter, you are simply hiding behind a shield, smugly confident that they cannot retaliate in kind.

[@BookWyrmOnAString]

Well said

[@briancrawford8751]

I've found it disturbing too, although I did it against my will as part of my "civic duty." It's diffusion of responsibility by making multiple people make the decision. I didn't lock a man in a prison for life. I just signed the verdict that said the judge would be required to rule that he be locked in a prison for life with the approval of eleven other people. That's how it works.

[@sugarfish223]

That's how bullies operate-- spewing out their ugly from behind a clutch of their friends and/or positions of authority, relying on raw brutal power to protect their fragile powdered little behinds.

[@chaoticdetectivepeach]

​@@briancrawford8751They can't cuz that's the rules, but also fuck the rules, if you try to steal from me with legislation I'ma _steal_ your right to not have my foot up your ass

[@mollusckscramp4124]

They're age old rules passed on from generations of oppressors and covert narcissists. This way they continue laying the foundations of deception to audiences at an early age. "The bad guys are aggressive and impolite y'all! More tea?"

[@arabhero10]

My grandpa had a saying: always fight fair, and keep it above the belt, until your opponent chooses not to. And when they do, you rip their nuts off for it.

[@phoebe543]

Words of wisdom. I like your grandpa

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Bet he followed that advice at one point or another himself.

[@teethgrinder83]

Your grandad was spot on 👍

[@dynamicworlds1]

"Turn about is always fair play"

[@Argonnosi]

@@dynamicworlds1 So, you're cool with the possible attack on the 14th amendment, since that's turnabout?

[@1BlueYoshi]

I’ve wrote a few comments on this video in the past that said something like “watching this again on [date where something bad happened on the supreme court]”. I also happened to be watching this video on May 2nd, 2022, the day the supreme court opinion against Roe v. Wade leaked, but I was actually watching this video BEFORE that news broke. I literally watched this video and then saw what it said play out in real time within hours. It’s absolutely insane how prescient this video is

[@lavendeerpuyotet4813]

Watching this again has been a trip for sure, and not a good one

[@metropunklitan]

its a never ending cycle at this point

[@isaac9343]

Watching this on the day that decision has come to pass

[@1BlueYoshi]

@@isaac9343 :(

[@whiteshadow943]

Watching this again lol

[@elenas3571]

2016: "You're a lame-duck president you can't elect a supreme court justice!" 2020 "RBG died! Time to get a justice approved before the next president is inaugurated next week"

[@timothymclean]

If that was a plot point in a novel and not a real-world political event, I'd think the author was being needlessly blunt about the Evil Party's hypocrisy.

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

@@timothymclean Reality is infinitely more cliched than any fictional story. Hitler literally took a symbol of well-meaning and twisted it to use as his symbol. Literally just tilted it upon its axis. It's so on-the-nose that a fiction author making the villain do it would be mocked incessantly for it.

[@twigwigsoso]

@@dontmisunderstand6041being asd the rules of fiction infinity seem to make more sense and be more grounded.

[@psiphre]

at ~13 minutes, "they want to overturn the right to abortion" hits differently today than it did when this video came out.

[@bktan6132]

And Biden and Harris along with the rest of the corporate slaves can’t even muster a decent response. When will Democratic voters wake the fuck up and stop nominating, voting for and defending these spineless figureheads? Democrats act as helpless as their leaders and seem to be glad to be led to the gallows once the fascists take over and shrug as they get hanged that nothing could have foreseen this. It’s maddening. But, Bernie is a Communist and the left are a bigger threat to democracy than MAGA. Jfc.

[@Pheenixz]

You can tell that this prediction was spot on. They wanted to stack the Supreme Court so they could strike down all the decisions they wanted. They were playing the long game and everyone fell for it despite knowing the plan.

[@Talkin-fr0g]

@@Pheenixz correct…

[@Zer0Spinn]

I personally think that abortion should be put in the second amendment and let's see who's brave enough to pull that baby down.

[@theangryholmesian4556]

​@@Zer0SpinnSo to speak.

[@13mungoman13]

Welp. This just became painfully, disgustingly relevant again. Godspeed, America.

[@TheShicksinator]

And the worst part is it's not just Democrats engaging in the "principled failure is noble" shtick. A lot of leftists are doing the same thing by abstaining or voting for a useless third party.

[@banonKING]

Yup!

[@GriogharThomasBaldwin]

First time seeing it today. It hit WAY too much on the head.

[@pickyphysicsstudent201]

This video is what I thought of, immediately, after the whole Ruth Ginsburg's replacement controversy started up. We have the parties seemingly reversed, this time. Trump in power and democrates are freaking out. Marches in streets shouting that they will riot. Journalists reporting on "dying last wish" from Ginsburg to not have her successor chosen by Trump. Pandemonium. Remember two years back, when Brent Kavenaugh was chosen and there was a whole witch hunt, WHOOPS! I mean, civilized trial, to determine if he was guilty of a r@pe from 36 years ago? There was so little evidence and and only the accuser's testimony was used - who everyone else disagreed with. The whole thing costed republicans the house majourity because they were seen as defending a r@pist. Again, there was no evidence to the alleged crime. Women voted in favour of Dems because of this narrative of Brent being J'cussed as evil, got into the mind of the normie voters. The Hypocrisy of these people are astounding. They'll stamp on your face and claim that you're one pummeling them and that you should start kissing the same boot they are stomping you with.

[@lberghaus]

@@pickyphysicsstudent201 How are the parties reversed? Once again, Republicans are running roughshod over us.

[@caityreads8070]

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." -Thomas Jefferson

[@arueshalaetablebuildingsociety]

-Who owned slaves and forced them to have sex with him; in other words, not the best model for quotes on morality and justice.

[@caityreads8070]

@@arueshalaetablebuildingsociety The American right loves the FFs, seems only fitting to use FF quotes to argue against them

[@addisonwelsh]

@@caityreads8070 Either side can use their quotes is you can use the right one and find the right place to use it.

[@caseyjarmes]

Good quote from a shitty man

[@TheDarthbinky]

@@addisonwelsh context matters too. Like when pro-gun people trot out the Franklin quote about trading liberty for safety and deserving neither, ignoring the context that he was talking about rich people not letting the government do its job, not "GUMMINT TAKIN' MAH GUNZ!"

[@internetwonderbuilder4741]

The Democrats act as if there's some kind of referee who's going to step in and penalize a foul. There is no referee, the other team is breaking the rules, and no one can stop them but the Democrats - if they choose to. They're throwing the game at this point. They've given up and are on the take from "gangsters" just like their opponents. They are rewarded for losing to the Republicans.

[@christopherrichard937]

The corporations own both parties. They're literally showing us

[@omegaduck2955]

Right this is all a show for the public…both parties are incentivize by corporations

[@fulcrum2951]

And we should do nothing about it?

[@edwardfletcher7790]

As a logical rational person, it's incredibly hard to deal with petty vindictive a$$h0les ☹️

[@FirestormMk3]

The modern DNC is a controlled opposition party, of course they're rewarded for losing. Plus people say they're spineless and have no ideals and won't break rules, but that's only against the GOP. The second anyone who is at all left of Nixon gets traction the DNC starts changing primary rules or trying to kick them out of Congress. They find their teeth and spine real fast against their actual enemy.

[@denverbeek]

"Philosophical victories don't show up on the scoreboard." - Sun Tzu, probably

[@Somebodyherefornow]

Me. I said that.

[@Gabriel_Blair]

​@@Somebodyherefornowi can attest to this he did say that, i was there in the room i wrote it down

[@olagartixa1719]

Sounds like something Machiavelli would say.

[@iinc6290]

"故用兵之法，無恃其不來，恃吾有以待之；無恃其不攻，恃吾有所不可攻也" "Thus to use the art of war: without relying on the enemy's absence, but relying on our preparation to receive them. Without relying on the enemy not attacking, but relying on our inability to be attacked." Sorry if the translations a bit awkward, its really hard to translate classical chinese. Don't sit around and win victories of the mind in warfare, because they don't matter one bit when the enemy shows up and takes everything. Philosophical victories only matter when they aren't able to show up on your doorstep one day and burn you to the ground because of your philosophical victory

[@iinc6290]

"故用兵之法，無恃其不來，恃吾有以待之；無恃其不攻，恃吾有所不可攻也" "Thus to use the art of war: without relying on the enemy's absence, but relying on our preparation to receive them. Without relying on the enemy not attacking, but relying on our inability to be attacked." Sorry if the translations a bit awkward, its really hard to translate classical chinese. Don't sit around and win victories of the mind in warfare, because they don't matter one bit when the enemy shows up and takes everything. Philosophical victories only matter when they aren't able to show up on your doorstep one day and burn you to the ground because of your philosophical victory

[@zippysarahzee]

TL;DW - lawful good can’t beat chaotic evil. only chaotic good can.

[@Silphenix]

You heard the lady, folks, now we all have to be anarchists ! (That's not sarcasm ^^)

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Aren't fascists Lawful Evil?

[@Mrcheesythumbs]

@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 national socialists were. nowadays i don't see 4chan autists goose stepping around city squares, mostly just whining online and running troll campaigns

[@FierceDeitySponce]

Governing fascists are lawful evil, but they rely on revolutionary fascists being chaotic evil to put them there.

[@frankdelgrosso8297]

@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 You are correct Facism is precicely what Lawful Evil manifests as in real life. The OP thinks chaotic mostlikly because they are breaking norms and also the law sometimes. But that isn't accurate, they have a code and deep love of structure, just not the one they are confined to now and wish to userp. Chaotic is a lack of desire for structure and conformaty. You can't be chaotic and also a nationalist. Chaotic says laws don't matter that much no matter who wrote them. They want things to play out naturally. So Chaotic Evil is most cloesly represented by the Tea Party concervatives not the Alt Right

[@carltwigg6519]

Holy HELL This whole series hits like a truck with an extra couple years

[@vaga4239]

Yep! It's still spooky as hell!

[@telegraphjames4542]

It's ridiculous how good this entire series is. It really ties together the world of the internet with real world politics.

[@ozgho09]

It hit like a truck four years ago

[@brano13177]

@@ozgho09 Indeed, though I guess it hits like a frieght train now

[@dungeonmonsterinc.2936]

Yeah...

[@erdood3235]

the law isn't always just, and justice isn't always legal

[@Adymus]

Put that shit on a "Neutral Good" motivation poster.

[@whiteyobanion1104]

It's called the "criminal" justice system because it's run by criminals.

[@leahsander5490]

And yet, everything Innuendo called for would have been legal. Appointing a judge - legal. Firing that clerk - legal. I wonder why he has to try to get us to promote lawlessness, if all we need to do is promote lawFULLNESS, the opposite of what republicans do.

[@Galdenberry_Lamphuck]

True Nuetral ftw

[@erdood3235]

@@Galdenberry_Lamphuck no, I'm all for justice

[@Kira-iu9gj]

this video has managed to clarify my years-long vague frustrations with liberal discourse in eighteen minutes with stick figures. i want to do work like this some day. incredible

[@socratesagain7822]

Please define the Rorschach, emotion-laden term, "liberal." I prefer "corporate-stooge" vis-a-vis "anti-corporate human." Heck, I'll even settle for rentier-class vis-a-vis the working class. Be well.

[@cherrycolareal]

​@@socratesagain7822Is that English?

[@socratesagain7822]

Oui! But one requires an understanding of psychological terms (i.e. Rorschach) as well as economic ones (i.e. rentier)--to mention a decent dictionary--to make sense of my comments. Personal curiosity and my struggle to overcome my ignorance compel me to underline (or write down) words I don't understand and look them up in a dictionary. Otherwise, I may not understand another's writings. I assume this habit in others. Sorry. Be well.

[@dam_d713]

@@socratesagain7822you are insufferable 😭😭😭☠️

[@Fionacle]

No hate man, but using a thesaurus makes you seem more like a pretentious asshole than an intelligent scholar (I know people often consider swear words immature but I feel they carry emotion it’s hard to show otherwise)

[@TheGreenScout]

Time to replace it with; “They go low, we kick them in the teeth”. No compromise with terrorists, rhetorical or otherwise

[@kacpero02]

Istructions unclear, killed an antifa member

[@ToxicBastard]

@@kacpero02 The ole Rittenhouse waltz, nice.

[@bye1551]

I like this. They go low, we stomp them from the high ground. Because violence against evil is just as long as it guarantees what is right. I say that unironically. If they want to take our rights away, we are acting in self defense and the gloves come off.

[@lausdeo4944]

Careful. Mankind often forgets those who are kicked can kick back.

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

Ask any kid who was bullied in school and survived to adulthood, silence isn't how you handle a bully. RAGE IS HOW YOU HANDLE A BULLY. SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS TO DISRUPT EVERYONE UNTIL YOU GET HELP IS HOW TO HANDLE A FUCKING BULLY

[@3rkid]

"There is a moral imperative to disobey rules when following does not lead to justice" ^^^

[@fleefie]

THISSSSS For the LAST time, STOP BELEIVING IN THE MORAL HIGH GROUND. Us having a clean conscience SHORT TERM ONLY isn't worth kids dying in hospitals because capitalism failed them.

[@captainzao791]

@@fleefie well democrats aren't really anti capitalist, are they? How would capitalism equate to children dying in hospitals?

[@cameronpadley117]

How do I save a comment on my phone?

[@lilydarkmoore8769]

​@@captainzao791, unregulated capitalism DOES result in children and the elderly dying unnecessarily, as we are seeing right now. Unregulated capitalism has resulted in the election of Dumbass Donny, who screwed up the response to the current Pandemic SO BADLY that we are ALREADY over 130,000 deaths from it and the side effects of it. Unregulated capitalism has resulted in the failure of our public health system because the republicans have been dismantling in every way they can for decades, and THAT is because a lot of the richer ones are rich because they invested in private medical corporations that charge exorbitant prices for an aspirin or a pancake.... and of course for everything else as well. Also, they are rich because they STOLE FROM MEDICARE AND MEDICAID. (See the example of Rick Scott) Those people DO NOT WANT this Nation to have a functional health care system of ANY sort, unless they are profiting from it personally. They are happy to let people die who are not a profitable enough (read ridiculously profitable) subject of exploitation. It doesn't matter if it's children or the elderly or YOU... you are only numbers in their ledger to them. Were it not for the people who do the actual WORK in the hospitals, they would not be worth the space they take up now. Nurses, CNAs, Techs, and Doctors are where the actual compassion and care is in the hospital system, but unregulated capitalism makes a lot of them work in unsanitary conditions, ridiculously long hours, for far less pay that they deserve... all so that the CEO of a corporation can get a multi billion dollar bonus each year. And who runs that hospitals where you are nothing but numbers in a ledger and because they want to spend the funding on bonuses for already overpaid executives children die? CONSERVATIVES. Because anyone who is going to do that ridiculously evil crap doesn't have a conscience and therefore the "my liberty before everything" mindset suits them just fine. LIBERTY WITHOUT COMPASSION IS JUST THINLY DISGUISED TYRANNY. Remember that saying and just use it whenever you come upon a "conservative" of any stripe throwing a fit about how unrestrained capitalism does not mean that people will act badly. It DOES MEAN THAT PEOPLE WILL ACT BADLY, because REALITY HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE VARIANCES OF HUMAN NATURE. Some people have no conscience and will therefore do ANYTHING to enrich themselves. Even kill children.

[@lilydarkmoore8769]

​@@captainzao791, unregulated capitalism DOES result in children and the elderly dying unnecessarily, as we are seeing right now. Unregulated capitalism has resulted in the election of Dumbass Donny, who screwed up the response to the current Pandemic SO BADLY that we are ALREADY over 130,000 deaths from it and the side effects of it. Unregulated capitalism has resulted in the failure of our public health system because the republicans have been dismantling in every way they can for decades, and THAT is because a lot of the richer ones are rich because they invested in private medical corporations that charge exorbitant prices for an aspirin or a pancake.... and of course for everything else as well. Also, they are rich because they STOLE FROM MEDICARE AND MEDICAID. (See the example of Rick Scott) Those people DO NOT WANT this Nation to have a functional health care system of ANY sort, unless they are profiting from it personally. They are happy to let people die who are not a profitable enough (read ridiculously profitable) subject of exploitation. It doesn't matter if it's children or the elderly or YOU... you are only numbers in their ledger to them. Were it not for the people who do the actual WORK in the hospitals, they would not be worth the space they take up now. Nurses, CNAs, Techs, and Doctors are where the actual compassion and care is in the hospital system, but unregulated capitalism makes a lot of them work in unsanitary conditions, ridiculously long hours, for far less pay that they deserve... all so that the CEO of a corporation can get a multi billion dollar bonus each year. And who runs that hospitals where you are nothing but numbers in a ledger and because they want to spend the funding on bonuses for already overpaid executives children die? CONSERVATIVES. Because anyone who is going to do that ridiculously evil crap doesn't have a conscience and therefore the "my liberty before everything" mindset suits them just fine. LIBERTY WITHOUT COMPASSION IS JUST THINLY DISGUISED TYRANNY. Remember that saying and just use it whenever you come upon a "conservative" of any stripe throwing a fit about how unrestrained capitalism does not mean that people will act badly. It DOES MEAN THAT PEOPLE WILL ACT BADLY, because REALITY HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE VARIANCES OF HUMAN NATURE. Some people have no conscience and will therefore do ANYTHING to enrich themselves. Even kill children.

[@ro2202]

Do not go high when they go low. When a wolf is being attacked by another wolf, it does not stoop its head and die, it *bites. back. harder.*

[@coyotelong4349]

Exactly. Beat them at their own game, knowing at least you’re on the side of justice

[@ipadair7345]

@@coyotelong4349 Justice, is heartless, and immoral from an emphatic standpoint, redemption must always be tried if possible. In this case it isn't so we must use violence.

[@lars7935]

@@coyotelong4349 Always try to take the high road. But always carry a pair of steel toed boots and a mask just in case you need to waddle in the mud ;)

[@ancogaming]

@@ipadair7345 had us in the first half, not gonna lie

[@kseniachevenard839]

how is that example supposed to prove your point? what the hell does what animals do prove about what humans should do?

[@Rubberman202]

12:57 - "There is no contradiction in blocking a Liberal Judge and bullying Democrats to confirm a Conservative one; they want to overturn the right to abortion, and will do whatever it takes to put a pro-lifer on the bench" Well look at where we are now... *sigh* :(

[@DaveE99]

Pro life was just to create a distraction from the fact that before pro-life (which wasn’t a big issue 30 years or so ago) they where focused on opposing desegregation. And they apparently realized that didn’t look good for them, but “defending the purity of life” was. Which I’m not “pro choice” I’m “pro-breathers”. Only the “pro-breathers” are about freedom, value of actual life, and preventing totalitarianism.

[@Sarah-re7cg]

This is why there has to be an intolerance for intolerance. They don’t give a fuck.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

​@DaveE99 It's worse than that. You ever heard of the book "The Birth Dearth", by Ben Wattenberg? When you're aware of its existence and influence, it changes everything about how you look at anti-abortion movements

[@notyetdeleted6319]

And look at where we are now, WOHOO 🎉

[@Levi-gh1sq]

"Right"

[@joywolfe.]

I love how everyone is saying the video is "biased". Like wow, it's making a moral judgement by explaining something the author believes. What an amazing criticism! I didn't know every video had to say "well both sides are equally bad all the time, and i have no opinions"

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

lol no shit right? EVERYthing isn't 100% balanced super neutral in the middle. Everything leans a little bit to one side or the other when you get right down to it. The key is to be on the side that is less fucked in the head lol. What I find annoying is that salt right bro flake nazi types are always the ones going "You're biased!" when that same obvious and stupid ass thing to say could be used on them even more so lol. Extremists tend to be on the right more so than on the left after all. I know some would disagree with me on this but until a bunch of tiki torch racist leftists start chanting nazi slogans in a march... I wont be seeing the left being nearly as extreme lol.

[@wombochrombo3610]

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 I agree with you 100%

[@Redskull1411]

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 I am a outsider (from argentina)...And...That is kinda the point of the video??...They go low you go high...And that is...kinda the problem...

[@Cabesandia]

@@Redskull1411 Waddup fellow chabón.

[@akumakorgar]

People who complain about this shit being biased or one-sided are basically trying to shame you about having an opinion, or of having values and being stringent about advocating those values. It's ironically the exact same kind of bullshit that this video talks about - they are trying to use your sense of fair play against you, but they themselves have none.

[@LEEboneisDaMan]

Well this suddenly got even more relevant than it already was...

[@Pman8362]

For real, the republicans would rather sink our country than lose power. This is why we need a constitution that has minimal grey area.

[@forgiven2812]

@@Pman8362 Of course, the Republicans are causing the chaos. Republicans are looting and fire-bombing private property. Democrat, thy name is lunacy.

[@dpax2195]

Deborah Dowden So, less than 1% of the happenings with the protests, AND NOT THE ACTUAL REASON FOR PROTESTING, is what you’re worried about? Damn... racism isn’t a big deal when it comes to muh property?

[@dpax2195]

Deborah Dowden but I guess I can answer my own question: A wall apparently has more value than a human. Shoot a human and you’ll be ok

[@Pman8362]

D Pax To add to what you said, Property can be replaced, Black Lives cannot

[@rxcort]

Watching dems get steamrolled by Republicans time after time is one of the most frustrating things in American politics

[@orxchi3853]

Really? I love it!

[@Emajenus]

It's gonna keep happening. This video is a perfect description of how and why it keeps happening.

[@scottmatheson3346]

​@@orxchi3853enjoy it while you can, because revolutions eat their own and eventually you will be the one under the steamroller, eventually the leopard will be eating your face.

[@lux7264]

@@orxchi3853 fascist

[@notyetdeleted6319]

@@orxchi3853agreed!

[@sheridan5175]

"Republicans accused of intentionally stalling democratic agenda by talking, speaking in slow motion" -The onion, 2011

[@SimonClarkstone]

As they say: _The Simpsons_ didn't predict anything; America just hasn't solved any of its problems in the last 30 years.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

When someone punches me in the face, I have no compulsion against knocking them out, and feel no need to apologize for doing so. Everyone has the right to defend themselves and others. This not _taking the low road._ It's called _defending_ oneself and others.

[@Cangeltibon]

I’ve never understood the concept of taking the high road, that type of pacifism is what bullies thrive on, when you do nothing and thing you’re superior for doing so the bully is laughing knowing that it’s that much easier to keep attacking you. Fight back dammit, not necessarily using the same tactics, but do something.

[@Subject91121]

Democrats didn't compromise in the first place, and McConnell responded kindly. Do you remember Harry Reid's nuclear option and McConnell's "You'll regret this" statement?

[@warmlycalculated390]

@@Subject91121 Please stop copy/pasting this same inane comment.

[@Subject91121]

@@warmlycalculated390 ​ Because you know I'm right! It all started with Harry Reid's nuclear option to push forth Obama's agenda. McConnell was rightfully pissed of it, and Democrats got their just deserts

[@warmlycalculated390]

@@Subject91121 Correct; Republicans have no interest in serving the greater interests of the country and its people, they're motivated mostly out of revenge. This is exactly what this video is about. Glad to see it wasn't lost on you.

[@DragoonBoom]

Well seeing that the establishment democrats have the same donors as the Republicans, inaction is the right course of action for them. It's bad for everyone else and the planet, but hey they've got a job to do I guess.

[@Akira-ss6cm]

"There is no abuse of power in remedying blatant abuses in power" - Robert Reich

[@DawnstealerGaming]

Looking back on this years later, I still say my initial gut reaction was correct: Obama should have said "The Senate has chosen to abdicate their responsibility of advise and consent, so with that process complete, welcome to Court, Justice Whomever"

[@CowMaster9001]

If refusing to examine the suggestion is consent, a lot of not rapists are in prison for rape

[@DawnstealerGaming]

@@CowMaster9001 so you’re saying the rapist’s job is to rape? Interesting take…

[@CowMaster9001]

@@DawnstealerGaming you said that if the senate won't consider the possibility of giving consent, then Obama should have just assumed he had consent.

[@DawnstealerGaming]

@@CowMaster9001 interesting interpretation

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Basically, "They have declared they refuse to pass judgement either way, ergo I shall decide myself."

[@EdricLysharae]

My experience with the Trump Presidency has been like being tied down to a chair and helplessly watching a toddler playing with a loaded pistol...

[@Kedai610]

…and COVID was when the pistol finally went off.

[@rylog8]

I'll never understand the desire to be the prettiest corpse in the morgue

[@sadisticon]

This is the sentiment that defines my frustrations with progressives and democrats. "Go high", so they can reach up under our kilt and rip off our scrota! The rules of debate and public dialogue have shifted. If we're to play the dozens as politics then we will need to purposefully deploy ad hominem, hyperbole, and misdirection like a Vegas blackjack dealer. No more Mr. Nice Guy, indeed, it is long past time to Hulk out on some bastiches!

[@AbandonedVoid]

@@sadisticon I think we had very different takeaways from this video. To me, the video isn't arguing for "fighting dirty," but for not prioritizing the means over the ends to the point where how you do something is more important than what you're doing. This isn't something I agree with, but it's a more sane and compelling point. Then again, this channel calls for violent revolution, so... maybe you understood the savagery in the subtext better than me.

[@KillahMate]

@@AbandonedVoid Well, if there's one thing I think about when I watch this video and others from this channel, it's the _savagery._ ...On second thought, did we watch the same thing?

[@richardcabanas1360]

@@AbandonedVoid The channel has never Called for violent Revolution. Although I don't necessarily agree with the guys above you, it's very obvious as you said that this video wasn't about fighting dirty

[@ryangallagher9723]

i'll never understand the desire to use a profile picture that associates you with a man who relentlessly harasses others for sick laughs

[@Silverwind87]

Imagine if the Supreme Court was trying to overturn a previous decision, and the Democrats decided the best course of action was to ask the court to codify the previous decision! That would be crazy!

[@diz5342]

It’s odd, I’ve always tended to associate deification of “the system” and the constitution with the right, but these last few years have made me realize it’s exactly the opposite, it doesn’t help that the democrats are really a right leaning centrist party not a leftist one

[@Silverwind87]

@@diz5342 Both parties have unyielding faith in the free market. In fact, they might deny it, but the GOP is a neoliberal party. At least since Reagan.

[@LuluTheCorgi]

Can't do that with a minority in house and senete

[@Silverwind87]

@@LuluTheCorgi Don't give me that bullshit. The data shows that there are far more Democrats than Republicans.

[@The2012Aceman]

Why ask the Court to do anything at all? We've got the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, who better to codify abortion but the people whose Constitutional duty it is? The judiciary isn't supposed to be making laws, they're supposed to be interpreting them, which is why Roe V Wade was overturn-able to begin with.

[@elijeschke]

As a recovering catholic, it's shocking to me that the overturning of Roe v. Wade surprised people. It was all we fucking talked about.

[@theangryholmesian4556]

And Roe v Wade protected a lot of other privacy rights...they'll come for gay marriage next. Meanwhile my cis gay coworkers keep mocking pronouns and non binary people because surely the queerphobic leopards won't eat THEIR face!

[@darthutah6649]

My evangelical grandmother literally said "Praise the lord" in response to hearing that Ruth Bader Ginsburg had cancer.

[@pika4126]

we need a leftist wave or an anti-right wave like how there was an alt-right KZbin wave

[@kiwi_2_official]

Unfortunately

[@TheBeatlesShow]

We do indeed

[@alejandrorivas4585]

But we kinda had one and it died down. We had our shot to sieze the stage and its gone. Now we have to go back to the ground with union action.

[@SirLukedatgoat]

We need a politically neutral wave to sweep the earth. That’s how we move forward in society.

[@computertable3746]

Maybe because people like alt right content way more cause they’re right

[@Evelyn_is_Evil]

How to deal with the alt right. “If you can not convince a fascist, acquaint his head with the pavement” -Leon Trotsky

[@EdriczZ_]

^how to trigger the "anti-antifa" crowd with just one quote

[@PunishedMushu]

@@EdriczZ_ Well see

[@sayeshi1]

So I tried to find the source of this quote and it seems to be heavily paraphrased. That being said, the original is still baller as fuck "grab every fascist or every isolated group of fascists by their collars, acquaint them with the pavement a few times, strip them of their fascist insignia and documents, and without carrying things any further, leave them with their fright and a few good black and blue marks."

[@davidchaladze1082]

Is being a radical communist much better than a fascist? I doubt that

[@sayeshi1]

@@davidchaladze1082 I'll do you a favor and assume you don't know what those words mean, because otherwise you sound like a complete fool.

[@Efreeti]

To quote Lewis Black "The Republican Party is a party of bad ideas, and the Democratic Party... is a party of no ideas"

[@kimobrien.]

Exactly break with the Democrats and the big donners. Why do we need a Bloomberg?

[@loganlewis1790]

Lately it feels like it's been the exact opposite

[@sandshark2]

@@loganlewis1790 idk, the Democrat’s ideas have helped stop the pandemic that’s projected to go away in a couple of months.

[@sadpee7710]

@@loganlewis1790 lmao if anything they both have bad ideas. they'll unite under bipartisanship to increase the military budget, cut taxes etc. just that the republicans twirl their mustache while they're doing it.

[@Thunderforce90]

@@sadpee7710 sorry to burst your bubble but the democrats have no intention to cut taxes any time soon

[@rhuiah]

Appeasement politics. It's like an abusive relationship where it's always the abused person's responsibility to appease the abuser (and the abuser will always say/believe 'they are the _real_ victim').

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Learn WHY the System is broken and how exactly and where, with 'Second Thought' and 'Some More News'. Its all the time enuinly informative Videos about Politcal Mentalitys and the 'How' of so many Situations.

[@CowMaster9001]

If a person with XY chromosomes and a penis can identify as a woman, I see know reason why I can't hit my wife and identify as the real victim

[@KnzoVortex]

@@loturzelrestaurantsecond thought has gotten on some state propaganda type stuff recently

[@MaryamofShomal]

Relatedly: “Alt-right” is a euphemism for fascism. Fascists use the moniker “alt-right” in an effort to rebrand and try to go mainstream.

[@Demilich23]

your tinfoil hat is slipping down

[@Demilich23]

​@Adam Dressler whoa you got me. what a masterful refutation. how did you become such an artisan of wordcraft. truly I stand no chance.

[@ShadowFromIsrael]

The problem is that we have too many leftist activists who describes anyone who disagree with them as alt-right. True alt-righters are not right wingers and are so few that one must search for them with a microscope. I hope you understand that the Right is only about the freedom of the individual to think what he wants and be what he is without tyranny. It's the opposite of judging people by their skin color or the practice of silencing others by force (Fascism).

[@ShadowFromIsrael]

@Adam Dressler Strawmmanning - False. You don't know those people or their arguments so you can't possibly know if I straw-manned them. Not True Scotsman - False, the Alt-right is defined as alternative. They are not true right wingers by definition. "Misdefining" Fascism - False. Here is the definition from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Fascism: "Severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition", "tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control". Source: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

[@Mish844]

@@Demilich23 If there wasn't a video about fascism, its criteria and how it relates to alt-right made ON THIS CHANNEL then maybe you'd be taken seriously here.

[@mynameisjack0618]

As Kwame Ture once said: “In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience.”

[@ar2042]

@asdfers Lol the British were civilized 🤣🤣🤣. You obviously haven't went to a history class in your life or u live in Texas. The British leached that area for 200 years and the subsequent poverty was too much to handle for them, rebellion was rising again, so they left, ffs there were 2-3 famines under their watch

[@Specopleader]

What does that mean specifically?

[@nakenmil]

It means the British werent (for the most part, with one notable exception) willing to commit regular mass-murders of unarmed protesters on an entire sub-continent of hundreds of millions of people because they knew it would render it completely ungoverneable. Now, granted, there was some aspects of a growing free press, some ideals of democracy, and some religious and secular ideals of the value of human life - fair enough - but for the most part it came down to that the British empire knew it was probably better to let India peacefully slip from their grasp with relatively few losses overall, than start a potentially neverending occupational war with an entire goddamn subcontinent in insurgency.

[@yogsothoth7594]

When the Rubicon has been crossed its already too late.

[@mattedwards4533]

The funny thing with your statement is that every country that has reached the top through violence has felled? Every history book I have read says the same thing?

[@blakenixon788]

“Uh oh.” - September 18, 2020

[@kimobrien.]

Because modern politics is driven by the underlying economics. The continuing crisis of American capitalism can no longer be contained within a gentlemanly like two party electoral system. Instead of coming under control the crisis just keep expanding with no end in sight.

[@richardcabanas1360]

@@Whatareyoudoinnhere Oh boy does it get worse, -March 2nd, 2021

[@ProGremlinPlayer]

Context?

[@emirhanmutlu5644]

@@ProGremlinPlayer No fap streak extended.

[@yogabbacrabba1457]

Watching this on June 24th of 2022 the day that the conservatives on the Supreme Court repealed Roe V. Wade. I wanna fucking scream. It's absolutely infuriating beyond words. It really is

[@The2012Aceman]

Have heart, with a Democrat House, Democrat Senate, and Democrat Presidency we have all the tools in place to properly codify abortion. All it takes is for the people who say they want to do it to actually do it. Problem is, once you get what you want, how will they extort you into voting for their establishment candidate when you'd actually prefer someone who will change the status quo?

[@scottmatheson3346]

​@@The2012Acemanthat's only if you count sinema and manchin as democrats. the reality is the dems won the presidency in 2020 but they lost the senate to tillis and susan collins. with just two more senate seats this dilemma would have more bite.

[@Levi-gh1sq]

🙂

[@bengolious]

It's hard to win when the game is rigged against you and your opponent flouts the rules and claims victory regardless.

[@diamondman4252]

Shouldn't be when most players agree with you and all you have to do is stand up against bullshit. Yet here we are.

[@rileynicholson2322]

It's even harder to win when you aren't playing to win.

[@donedeal8385]

Don't fall for it. Political theater is for entertainment. Labeling is the only difference between the two parties.

[@MrHoeBow]

"philosophical blood transfusion" that's priceless, my dude.

[@GoldenRockefeller]

Blood transfusions are expensive, philosophical blood transfusion is free. Wouldn't you want to live in a world where everything is free?

[@electrosthefella]

@JamesHLanier The ideal world. Don't you think?

[@Demilich23]

if you're twelve maybe

[@archangel9363]

"Mr President, it's not that we want your policies to fail... It's just that we want YOU to fail. And that would be seen as a great victory for the GOP." - Mitch McConnell (portrayed by Bill Hader) in SNL's "The Rock Obama" cold opening skit.

[@PotatoTL]

Will Forte not Bill Hader.

[@kylehankins5988]

If you want the president to fail you want the country to fail

@@kylehankins5988 What does that say about the democratic party and MSM anchors going on record saying they're praying for a recession or a war..

[@kylehankins5988]

@ It says they put their politics above the nations well being

[@christianyaerger1751]

@@kylehankins5988 I utterly despise Trump. It's not that I want him to fail, it's that I've WATCHED him fail day in, day out. He is unfit for the office he has, and somehow has just Peter Principle'd his way to the top.

[@oshawott5308]

I firmly believe "being the bigger person" has always been about protecting people who abuse their powers instead of any amount of morality. why else would a rule that essentially boils down to "let corruption happen and horrible people do what they want" persist so widespreadly?

[@kiwicap5691]

2 years ago when this was made: man this is relevant 3 months ago when the whole RGB/ACB event: man this even more relevant Election and post election shenanigans: it’s even more relevant January 6 2021: this might as well be wine at this point...

[@danielemazzali9810]

one month from now: pls, stop be even more relevant...

[@coyotelong4349]

This is why Ian runs perhaps the best channel on YT

[@big_sea]

yes

[@michaelwardle7633]

Garlands DOJ: NOTHING TO SEE HERE WE ARE FOLLOWING DECORUM

[@Szabla1595]

Update for May 2022...

[@cmbeat9169]

In my first lesson in law at university we learned: "The law is not equal with justice, it only works withing the ethical minimum."

[@tcfween]

I'm an Australian so I don't pretend to know your system deeply but you just bloody called the overturning of Roe vs Wade.

[@RedPandaStan]

Reminds me of something I read in a piece of Japanese media once. In the west, justice is not about doing what is right, it is about following a set of rules.

[@dawnmoore9122]

It depends on the westerner. :)

[@hiphopotamus69]

This video just keeps aging like wine unfortunately

[@georgH]

Indeed it does

[@hyperx72]

"You go high" -Relatively peaceful protests "We go low" -Staging a fucking Coup

[@chickenwalker6458]

'Staging a Coup' - breaking a window 'Relatively peaceful protests' - burning down multiple fucking buildings

[@hyperx72]

@@chickenwalker6458 And building execution equipment, and threatening kidnapping, and brandishing weapons, and bringing pipe bombs...

[@Utopia1616]

@@chickenwalker6458 what did you not hear about the 6 dead people multiple injured, people marching on federal land with the intent to harm senators and the Vice President and the pipe bombs found. But a target being burned down is TOO FAR.

[@jameslanier2510]

@@hyperx72 I wish you'd stop this. All that stuff you mentioned would legit be awesome if it was leftists doing it. My hot take is that storming the capitol is cool actually. It's just not cool when it's a bunch of chud morons doing it.

[@hyperx72]

@@jameslanier2510 Leftists aren't trying to keep a defeated president in office indefinitely.

[@JBeestonian]

God I hate how right this was with Trump being granted immunity

[@jonathanwright5338]

Exactly. It’s why i came back to this video. Watching Trump on stage with Biden is to me a 40 year culmination not necessarily of “they go low we go high”, but “this guy is a worthless human being and fascist that gets the right precisely what they want.” The other guy is the democrats culmination of “now let’s not nominate anyone too radical that might hurt the other guys feelings or fix health care or fix education or find a solution to gun violence or MAGA terrorists. Nah our guy should be as uninspiring as wet bread. That’ll show those right-wingers!

[@phantomblot6072]

Abolish the electoral college. Make voting proportional.

[@ericjohnson7234]

that in all streches of imagination is exactly against the constitution, so the idea itself is against your proposed outcome. Think again.

[@DaB0ssIsIn]

@@ericjohnson7234 The constitution is subject to change. That's what amendments are for. Arguing about "constitutionality" is as bs as arguing about "legality" of morally reprehensible actions.

[@phantomblot6072]

@@ericjohnson7234 The constitution sucks.

[@ericjohnson7234]

@@phantomblot6072 Really? That is an ignorant comment. To save time, i suggest you reread what it actually says, remove your bias for just a few hours and contemplate the meaning of that document. Then choose whether it is worth the energy to make a comment like that. Good luck.

[@DaB0ssIsIn]

@@ericjohnson7234 Interesting how you respond to the guy that made a 3 word statement, and not my own comment about amendments. Almost as if you have no response for a decent argument.

[@RainaThrownAway]

Of all things in politics, I think this point makes me the most rantingly, frothingly angry. It is patently obvious to anyone that when we take the high road, we look real fucking good and noble while we get our faces shoved in the horseshit and our pockets rifled through. Going high gets us *nothing*. We need to oppose them directly, which means sometimes, we have to be the monsters they will accuse us of being anyway.

[@darthutah6649]

I think after so long, democrats finally started going low in their campaign ads.

[@guitarstuffig]

I literally ran to watch this video. It's actually happening

[@Precil13]

Proposed edit: They go low, we curb stomp them.

[@ItsNikolai]

👏🏽👏🏽

[@theimpulsivevulcan5346]

figuratively and ideologically

[@aaronsmith1023]

I'm in favor of that.

[@H4hT53]

And that would have been the correct response. If someone uses the rules to break the game, you either strongarm them into respecting the game or you curbstomp them as an example to others. That's not rocket science.

[@aaronsmith1023]

@@H4hT53 FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT!!!

[@maijkelhartman6476]

13:03 "They want to overturn the right to abortion." This guy is a clairvoyant.

[@puffena9013]

Nothing clairvoyant about it, ever since Roe Republicans have been openly trying to destroy abortion every chance they got, they just finally got their chance

[@telegraphjames4542]

Respectfully, his point is that he's not! Fight against what the Republicans are saying NOW, because we've seen that they can get what they want, and they're all too clear about what those things are

[@rae-everything]

He wasn't the only person saying it, but you were said to be melodramatic if you dared suggest its possibility.

[@samg131]

That wasn't a very hard prediction considering they've been trying for years

[@Levi-gh1sq]

"Right"

[@guitalex2005]

If you're here because Ruth Bader Ginsburg just died, let's cry together.

[@dorkmax7073]

We can't cry. Its time to fight. Honor her legacy by ensuring it doesn't get tossed in the dirt.

[@occasionalfan-content4771]

:’(

[@guitalex2005]

@@dorkmax7073 you're right. Contact your congresspeople and tell them they should respect her wishes and her legacy.

[@wangana5955]

@@guitalex2005 Isn't that just doing what this video says doesn't work though? We can't fix the system by using the system if the other side cheats the system. Sure we should go ahead and contact congress people but everyone should realize at this point that this is unlikely to produce results and should only be a side quest. We should be getting our molotvos ready.

[@christopherlundgren1700]

Burning stuff down is how you lose public support. What the Dems should be doing is the crap that the Republicans always do, using every nonsense trick they can think of to break the system. Political molotovs not literal.

[@PenniDeadful]

I've followed American politics since I was 14 and to see this pattern repeat itself over and over again with worse and worse results is a level of infuriating that I couldn't appreciate until now when I'm in my 30s. I keep waiting for Democrats to break this assanine tradition and they refuse.

[@christopherrichard937]

Because it's all an illusion?

[@NoobLord9001]

"binder full of judges" It's an "older" (2012) meme, sir, but it checks out.

[@marylawrence2218]

Haha thanks for reminding me of this

[@EuropeanQoheleth]

Oldness does exist. No need for quotation marks. Like seriously, how do people not believe that old is a thing. Some things have been around longer than others. This is basic stuff.

[@sugarfish223]

@@EuropeanQoheleth Because to underdeveloped and naive little brains, "old" is one of those things that are "outside MY universe and therefore something like soooo weird you guys, omg".

[@fiveiron23]

I have been screaming this for years now. You are not obligated to engage in good faith with a person who has already demonstrated bad faith. Nor are you obligated to act politely toward them. They use social conventions and such as a weapon. For example openly discussing absurd and harmful conspiracy theories. No one wants to be rude and call it what it is because its terribly impolite to embarrass someone that way. But they *should* be embarrassed. That is the right way to feel about what they believe.

[@DannySullivanMusic]

I love how justices can serve when they're 70+ and full of dementia and forget their own names. Those are the people I want upholding the laws!

[@jmckenzie962]

Yeah IK right it's fucking stupid and extremely antiquated for that position to be lifelong. I don't know of any other country that does that (I live in NZ, for the record).

[@cysioland]

@@jmckenzie962 Well, it seems like a byproduct of that aforementioned process. When you know your successor will be a bigot you gotta hold on to your seat as long as you physically can.

[@yellowgreengo6764]

what do you think about voters under the same circumstances?

[@saxking101]

@@yellowgreengo6764 the sheer numbers of mentally fit voters will overshadow them. With 9 Supreme Court justices? Nah

[@GuerillaBunny]

Even if their minds didn't deteriorate, their entire value systems, which may have been progressive 30 years ago, would be outdated now. And, like... I get that one of the original intents was to protect their posts against wrong-minded dismissals, but I feel like there are better protections against abuse of power. Such as not concentrating so much of it on such a small number of people, whether that be the judicial or executive branch.

[@jpkillerage]

"They want to overturn the right to abortion" Weren't you right Innuendo, weren't you right...

[@pianocard2786]

Thankfully we did

[@michaelburleson2687]

@@pianocard2786”Thankfully we stripped away the rights of women!” Fuck off

[@jellewijckmans4836]

The moral high ground should be something you strive for. However when they go low and you are unwilling to block low you get your legs swept from under you. It's OK to play high admirably even but it's more important to play well.

[@dynamicworlds1]

When they go low, bring the fucking hammer of wrath down on them.

[@micke1888]

@@dynamicworlds1 And thou shalt purge those who go low. Just as Stalin said "Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism" Don't believe everything you hear kidz."

[@KingBobXVI]

The moral high ground in that situation, in hindsight, would have been to appoint Garland after confirming that the Senate absolutely would not hold a vote on the grounds that the Consitution says they "don't have to" - the Consitution also only says the Senate "advises and consents", which a display of apathy can easily be argued to fit the description of.

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

Honestly, the main obstacle to reform is the fact that candidates still need wealthy donors to get elected. This probably can't be emphasized enough.

[@SorowFame]

Lobbying should be illegal, you shouldn’t have more say in government just because you’re rich

[@rae-everything]

You can't expect a democrat with guts if they're all private school yuppies, sadly.

[@sugarfish223]

We've been so conditioned to focus on red/blue, male/female, black/white, etc. that people can't see that the real battle is between those with money and those without it. If your personal worth isn't in the high millions or billions, you are not in the first party-- but those guys are having serious fun training you to look down on anyone else who has an older car or smaller home than you, along with all those other stupid manufactured conflicts.

[@TanitAkavirius]

Under the thinnest of veneer of democracy, a plutocracy. Can we please call "donors" and "lobbyists" corruption again?

[@JoeNoshow27]

This video came across as a stark rebuff to centrism. More and more I've been recognizing that centrism is a philosophical, or principled, position based on the notion that civility, due process and the refrain from calling a spot a spot (or a fascist a fascist) is morally superior to taking sides. Taking a side is considered engaging in tribe mentality and tribe mentality is considered primitive. And that's what being a centrist is all about: Elevating yourself above the rest by claiming that you embody a form of universal morality. Which is nonsense given that the core of any moral position rests in an emotional instinct. And instincts, are subjective. Being a centrist doesn't elevate one above the rest. It's an instinctive and tribal position. Going around preaching the virtues of bipartisanship, the moral arc, the free market of ideas, civility and unconditional free speech doesn't make you a neutral arbitrator, but rather the guy standing off to the side scoffing at everyone going "Come on guys, can't we be nice?" I like Obama because he's a smart, charismatic guy with socially liberal stances. But I also see him for the self-righteous, condescending centrist that he is. He can't give a speech without preaching the virtues of bipartisanship to save his life. He fails to acknowledge the writing on the wall. If you think it'd be wrong to be bipartisan and civil with the Nazi Party of Germany, then why do you think it's a virtue to be bipartisan and civil with the modern day GOP? Conservatism can theoretically be the voice of caution, but that's not what it is in America today. Wishing for it to change and leading by example won't change the monster that it's become. Republicans left team America a long time ago. It's team Fuhrer Trump or bust.

[@jeep1077]

Centrism is a facade to hide the real motivator which is donor money. Donor money drives the establishment. If you want to know where a centrist stands just look to see where his donors stand. Unfortunately, Obama took the big money from Wall Street and did their bidding.

[@BuddleDuddle]

@@lukeriley7882 Your comment and OP's comment make me wonder, and I know OP's comment is old but hopefully someone with similar reasoning can jump in at least... Is centrism really the most effective strategy win?

[@LukeRileyA]

Kristen Johnson this is a worthy debate to have. But once that debate is over (when there is only one candidate left who has a path to winning), we should all be working to coalesce around power, or else we will not take power.

[@buyobites]

@@BuddleDuddle That's not really the problem, is it? Even if centrism would be the best tactic to win, for many democrats it is not just a tactic but their political philosophy. It does not really help to win elections through centrism and then govern after the same principles, achieving next to nothing.

[@EuropeanQoheleth]

The core of any moral position is instinct? Dead wrong. Just look at the effects of things like murder and tell me with a straight face that murder isn't wrong and opposing it is just instinct.

[@no_thank_you_]

I already knew most of this, but having it broken down and explained really hit hard

[@kanekaosaard7449]

I agree. This video REALLY puts this in perspective. My wife is from China and would always tell me, "Why aren't liberals fighting dirty? Those bastards do it all the time! It's time for them to do the same." I would always say that shouldn't be the alternative, but watching this video really hit home that my wife was right, and that those Republican assholes were banking on this.

[@dapooks8931]

Just remember that its a pretty shitty reality to face and it makes sense that they're loathe to think about it. But yeah, people pulling the wool over their own eyes is a pretty sad sight to see.

[@ruedelta]

@@kanekaosaard7449 Similarly anyone in China who keeps an eye on the social trends in the US is basically aware that the US is going through its own Cultural Revolution. The Democrats are just trying to ignore the fact that the conditions are that shit.

[@EwMatias]

I know exactly what you mean.

[@JackJack634]

@@kanekaosaard7449 >wife is from china boil the rice pay the price

[@LeneChibi]

Great video, thank you! In Germany we say "Toleranz schafft sich selbst ab"....tolerance kills itself. If you keep tolerating everything for the sake of tolerance, the intolerant will make full use of that.

[@QuinnArgo]

That's a stupid way to put it. I always say "Toleranz ist nicht gleich Akzeptanz" and what I mean is I hold intolerant views the fuck away from me while not feeding their narrative of being suppressed and silenced. Because that is the actual fuel for dangerous ideologies.

[@meris8486]

"Tolerance is just another form of Intolerance"

[@MrMduchesne23]

Germany has actual experience with what tolerance can do to your government when dealing with extremist parties, historically. However, they may need a reminder.

[@ared38]

Oh come on, the left was anything but tolerant of Nazis -- in fact, provoking violence was an important part of their strategy. The more Communists attacked party members in the streets and vandalized offices, the more the Nazis were able to sell the idea that the situation was out of control and a strong leader was needed to the uninformed. Are Germans really not taught about the left wing paramilitary groups like the Alliance of Red Front-Fighters and the crushing of the Beer Hall Putsch?

[@wowcplayer3]

@@ared38 I believe that saying came to public consciousness after the war, so yea, it only kinda works to describe the situation leading up to it. However, in my opinion, tolerance is a two-way street, if those in your country speak nothing but hate and intolerance for another group of people, they deserve a lessened form of intolerance on themselves. That IS justice.

[@themysteriouswarlock]

Looks like Innuendo has finally been vindicated after all these years…

[@YoungSlim51]

It's funny how alt right trolls jump into these comment sections and act directly in accordance with the described playbook.

[@roflcopterprods]

Well this just became unbelievably relevant in the worst possible way.

[@tudoraragornofgreyscot8482]

Lmaoooo, we’re fucked.

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Americans will never learn.

[@gian3458]

@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 what did we do? Libs didn't whisper in Obama's ear to give up on his SC pick. We didn't even pick the guy that's in office in 2016. The guy we didn't elect certainly didn't ask his fan base to elect ACB weeks before the general; he only did it to give his party more power in the long term. These recent events only proves that representative democracy has long been dead and our oligarchs keep twisting that dagger.

[@TheSanityX]

This was posted a year ago and I can't see the exact date. I'm assuming you're referencing RBG's horribly timed death?

[@roflcopterprods]

@@TheSanityX I believe I was, but do not know for certain. Probably

[@MalloryMovies]

the democrats are still sitting at the table trying to play chess while the republicans got up and lit the whole building on fire. Now is not the time for chess players seeking for a fair play of the game where the rules are agreed upon mutually, now is the time for firefighters.

[@dynamicworlds1]

But the job they're being paid to do is to keep anyone from calling the firefighters.

[@parkerc9816]

@J K hammer & sickle? Dope

[@citrusblast4372]

Seriously, I consider myself somewhere in the middle, but what repubs are doing is ridiculous. I thought I had sided with the fair side

[@NoobLord9001]

Citrus Blast Your comment is a microcosm of centrism. “I just wanted trump because the left are sjws! i didn’t know he was actually gonna hurt people!” but i am glad that, unlike most centrists, you’re willing to admit that you colossally fucked up, rather then blame a “literally who” on the left with rainbow anime hair for your actions like most.

[@citrusblast4372]

@@NoobLord9001 oh if only the left werent these extremists. The right is basically watching its enemy implode on itself and then reaping the rewards, all they had to do was say a few things to distract the left from whats important to them. God I wish a mob would just go to DC and just attack the senate, and not because I hate either side, but because they are fighting within themselves and doing nothing good for us the people. We have at least 10 years before climate change ruins all of society and we are wasting our times waiting for the government to call the shots when the government isnt even concerned about that.

[@smile-tl9in]

I look back at this in a world post roe vs wade overturn. Yeah Obama should definitly have appointed a judge

[@Levi-gh1sq]

I'm glad roe v wade got overturned and I think it's wrong he wasn't able to appoint a judge

[@smile-tl9in]

@@Levi-gh1sq good on you. You're still a misogynist but you're at least not willing to fuck with democracy.

[@BlueJaybeard]

Alternate title to this video: "Why a 2-party government is the scourge of existence."

[@IceFireTerry]

everytime the GOP does something crazy we all return to this video

[@Advent3546]

Uh-oh. This got relevant again in the worst possible way. Better buckle up.

[@Micky96]

To paraphrase a prominent Democrat senator "Fuck it, if you wanna play hardball, lets fucking play."

[@docan5248]

Henry Anthony let’s see if liberal democrats stop being spineless. Talk is lovely, back it up.

[@susanwojcickisnicetwin]

@@Micky96 Didn't the democrats try that when they went to a simple majority? You can thank Harry Reid for that.

[@crazyspf1]

God, I wish that events stopped happening that force me to go back to this video, over and over again.

[@brendananderson338]

You know, in Lord of the Rings, the Gondorians were the real villains. There was no need to fight the orcs just because the orcs were fighting them, they should have taken the high road and surrendered Minas Tirith. Smh.

[@Demilich23]

"guys omg this is JUST like harry potter omg omg trump is LITERALLY voldemort u guise"

[@SarumanTheStupid]

@@Demilich23 Lol what... Not even the same universe

[@Demilich23]

@@SarumanTheStupid Jesus..

[@NarwhalEntertainment]

@@Demilich23 I feel he's more Lockhart.

[@Silverwind87]

@@NarwhalEntertainment I'm getting more Umbridge vibes.

[@adinruddva]

This video's gonna be REALLY relevant in the coming weeks

[@isaacwang1926]

Everyone needs to share this

[@brandonwheaton1750]

Yes maybe then the left can see the right use their own tactics against them. It was okay in 2016, it's okay in 202. Obama and Biden caging kids in 2008 is okay, then Trump doing it in 2016 is okay too.

[@isaacwang1926]

@@brandonwheaton1750 the left is only slightly less scummy than the right. It was never ok.

[@Jacobaum]

Yep, they did

[@kimobrien.]

@@Jacobaum You can expect a big nothing burger from Joe "Let a thousand flags Bloom(berg)" Biden.

[@yoshi12370]

Who's here after today's SC decisions :^)

[@arklestudios]

Hi.

[@gracen8010]

This aged like fine wine let’s be so honest. Especially the part about Republicans condemning government shutdowns and then doing it anyways when they don’t get their way. This video unfortunately aged really really well.

[@SnazzBot]

It's hard to call the democratic party left, if it were in charge in the United Kingdom it'll be more right than the Conservative Party. Just because Kentucky is more northern than Florida doesn't make it Canada.

[@chill_will9816]

Too true. Much of that has to due with the cold war and the right's willingness to conflate communism with socialism and weaponize the terms. The grim irony being those same people don't care that Russia ratfucked our election. Go figure.

[@Rydersilvery]

Can you explain to me how so? What policies of the left are conservative compared to yours? Im actually genuinely curious haha

[@chill_will9816]

@@Rydersilvery For example, the way Obama had to pitch his health care plan. The idea of a single payer option (an option most modern civilizations have to keep insurance companies and pharma companies from resorting to usuary) was derided as being so socialist/communist/anti-capitalist/un-American to even be considered.

[@Nathanyel]

@@chill_will9816 well obviously, since Russia isn't communist anymore. Sure, it uses the same tactics as before, has a former KGB agent as a president, but at least it now pretends to be a Democracy instead of a Communist Nation.

[@SnazzBot]

@@Rydersilvery They are not left they just less right. If you consider the Conservative Party have free healthcare at the point of entry. Well the democratic party make you sign up to an insurance policy so you still have to pay.

[@djaevlenselv]

"Maybe everything still goes to shit, but nobody could claim that I didn't do my job." Yup, sounds like classical deontology to me.

[@InnuendoStudios]

I seem to be developing a love/hate relationship with deontology

[@syedhassany9683]

Innuendo Studios my debate coach Said to me “A utilitarian would switch the tracks to kill one person, while a deontologist would sit back do nothing and let the other 5 die. “Killing one to save others should not be considered an injustice, it might be not be, but to do so is not an injustice. That’s not to mention that deontologists are the most pretentious fairyland people ever, who think that you shouldn’t kill nazis in 1935 because of Mills harm principle, because they hadn’t started to kill the Jews yet. Though they already did some pretty fucked up shit.

[@I_dont_need_a_handle]

Shoulda been "If they go low, we curbstomp them" And If you're done with the stomping you'll ask again if they maybe wanna play by the rules. If not: rince and repeat.

[@I_dont_need_a_handle]

@@yggorF All I'm saying is, you can't appeal to better angels and fairness where there is none to be found. All you can do is put up a mirror and hope for an epiphany.

[@I_dont_need_a_handle]

@@yggorF When it comes to resources and power people only stop at the boundaries of law and contracts, that's why we have them. To willingly concede for morality is giving advantage to those who don't. It's like a country giving it's nukes to another country that surely would never harm them 30ish years down the road. But maybe ask Ukrain about that. Have you ever asked yourself why we have "moral". To me moral is an instinctual fear of repercussion. In stone age times people lived under no written law and under Communissm. The one that fished brought fish for all. The ones who hunted hunted for all. The ones who gathered did so for all. Why did that work, you might ask. Well, if they didn't they would have been eighter been beaten up or exiled (wich was basically a death sentence back then). The fear of social transgressions has thus been genetically ingrained into us. This is btw the reason why Japan is a way more collectivist society. They constantly had to deal with natural desasters. Everyone had to help to deal with these. The ones who didn't where shunned from society and left to their own devices. They did so probably until up to the meji restauration (end of 19th century), when they reopened their country after centuries of isolation. I leave it up to you where you put authority in that one. To me, the law is authority.

[@I_dont_need_a_handle]

​@@yggorF You should stop jumping to conclusion about other people ("if you say X that means you are also Y and think Z etc etc..."). That is what debate-perverts do all the time and it pisses people off to no end, especially when it's wrong. And yes, you could harm me. You could harm me and in return expect harm from me or my tribe or help me and in return expect help from me or my tribe. Your choice, professor. Do you understand now how this s**t works? Damn. Even stone-age people understood this and you studied for 30 years and still have troble understanding.

[@I_dont_need_a_handle]

@@yggorF Saw your latest comment. Seems like you are having an existential crysis, buddy. If you still have troble reasoning why you should help not harm, maybe you should do a field study: Go out and punch random people in the face and if data is inconclusive increase the sample size. I am eagerly awating your next paper.

[@I_dont_need_a_handle]

@@yggorF Aaahh. So you don't understand metaphors... Well, happens to the best of us.

[@inveniamviam4691]

I just can’t believe the same thing happened again with RBG’s passing and they had no trouble installing their ultra biased judge for a lame duck president

[@hanspeter6427]

As a European, your system seems broken.

[@internetwonderbuilder4741]

It is.

[@whiteyobanion1104]

-Seems- the system is broken

[@Medicus_Asur]

Lmao not one European citizen voted on Article 13 and it Passed in 16 SECONDS if you think Europe is doing better you are wrong.

[@whiteyobanion1104]

@@Medicus_Asur Ah, the potential death of memes for the EU, how sad, the fascists! Hey, at least you don't have to worry about going broke from some unforeseen health issue.

[@JakesyDude]

As an American, you are correct.

[@bigjclv]

Rewatching this now... he knew. We saw. And Dems failed to respond in any meaningful way. And now we are all reaping the harvest for "going high" over and over.

[@Gobsnachaz]

I'm so glad I don't live in the US.

[@kazune414]

One should still take the time to learn about American politics so that you can defend yourself from the negative consequences of our woeful foreign policy and our Legacy of imperialism. I patently believe that it is unethical and immoral but the reality is in many ways America does have a massive influence over the rest of the world and so I think it pays for everyone especially in this current political climate to educate themselves on American politics because it will affect how people live their lives throughout the entire world.

[@skyrasmus4760]

Oh don't worry, the political tactics employed by the far right in the US are spreading like cancer to other parts of the world.

[@AnnekeOosterink]

Don't worry, the extreme right is coming to a government near you! It's already infected mine.

[@misanthropiclusion]

Same here

[@Urb4n0Ninj4]

Give it time...if anything this shows that on a long enough timeline, a large enough group of people with loose morals more concerned about being hateful together will always win over groups of people with tighter morals seeking compromise. We here in the U.S. are just a Canary in the coal mine...learn from us while we burn to the fucking ground.

[@femthingevelyn]

"lets both take a step forward anf meet in the middle" only works if your opponent can be trusted not to take a step back for every step you take forward

[@vlogo4371]

What's that line? "When they go low, we kick them" ? Love that

[@RineyCat]

Kick em when they're up. Kick em when they're down. Dirty Laundry.

[@MasterChiefFloyd]

The line is hang all communists.

[@gontadigahole]

@@MasterChiefFloyd Scared to say all enemies of the republic?

[@fadechicobuarque1989]

@@MasterChiefFloyd so you really do first come for the communists.

[@nickh5288]

@@RineyCat if they aim to punch you in the gut and you kick them that's not fair if they go to punch you in the genitals and you kick them that's fair

[@emirturkmen4524]

I am so, so tired of this series aging well

[@Anonymous37980]

"They want to overturn the right to abortion," welcome to 2022 where this video aged like fine wine.

[@Levi-gh1sq]

"Right"

[@leyrua]

Say what you will about Biden being a centrist instead of a liberal (true), but for all of his open talk about "working across the aisle", behind the scenes he has done a surprisingly good job of sneaking stuff past Republicans when they aren't paying attention.

[@Elnina-pv3bx]

True actually. He isn't the best but he is much better than any one gives him credit for.

[@leyrua]

@@Elnina-pv3bx And I think that might actually be his greatest strength. People keep underestimating him, so his opponents take their eyes off him and "Whoops! He passed some more legislation that helps the working class!"

[@Elnina-pv3bx]

@@leyrua not really. The Republicans are doing everything they can to insult him. He has tried several times to cancel all student debt but he hasn't been successful yet because of republican interference. Then people blame him for failing to do anything about student debt.

[@moniqueloomis9772]

But liberals are centrist. 🤔

[@sugarfish223]

@@leyrua Now if only that kind of work moved the needle on the public's attention. Maybe he should regularly announce his legislative wins with livestreams full of explosions and bouncing boobs? Gotta meet the audience where they are intellectually, after all.

[@Mogamett]

Perhaps a fix could be "shame the rule breaking party as much as you can, every day, not by talking about the high road, but by talking about consequences". Like, your party is paralysing government? People are dying, starving, and having a lot of problems as results. Build a narrative on them, hammer on it every single day with stories, shame the other party for the damage they caused and how silly this looks, rather than how "uncooperative" they are, and, as more voices call out (on your side and the growingly exhausted centre) to just fix it, do so stating that you hate how the rule-breaking party forced you to do so. The rule breaking party keep getting strategical advantages with this kind of shit, you can't let them accumulate them over and over just to maximise the approval your behaviour might receive. If the rule breaking party gains acrimony by neutrals who got burned by their actions and gain no advantage, it makes no sense for them to try damage you with this further along.

[@TruFalco]

This video has popped back into my head for some reason, today.

[@Coldbird1337]

you should re-release this video

[@ericrowe2533]

>watching this in 2022 as Roe V Wade is on it's deathbed WELP

[@Silverwind87]

god bless america...