The Death of the NFL’s Favorite Trick Play

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Isaac Punts

Isaac Punts

2 ай бұрын

The NFL new Kick off Rules killed the surprise onside and the Surprise onside is easily one of the most fun plays in football.
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@IsaacPunts
@IsaacPunts Ай бұрын
What else would you guys like to see the history of? Let me know here and THANK YOU for watching, it means a lot!
@bembrysburner3068
@bembrysburner3068 Ай бұрын
The History of the Never-Ending Lateral please!
@Just_a_Duck_on_the_Internet
@Just_a_Duck_on_the_Internet Ай бұрын
History of the fake punt or maybe the QB sneak
@DarrylWPerry1789
@DarrylWPerry1789 Ай бұрын
drop kick
@Superkuh2
@Superkuh2 2 ай бұрын
As John Madden would say, "Protect the players but don't take away the game like that." This is terrible.
@alexvankeulen7171
@alexvankeulen7171 2 ай бұрын
No kidding, when I think of football, the first thing that comes to mind: onside kick to yourself
@focus4791
@focus4791 Ай бұрын
@@alexvankeulen7171This gotta be sarcasm
@ahgflyguy
@ahgflyguy Ай бұрын
Replacing kickoffs with 4th and 10 or 15 from your own 25 or 30 would be great. Safer and allows for lots of sneakiness, AND lots of offense.
@devinosland359
@devinosland359 Ай бұрын
​@ahgflyguy you watched the jon bois video too? Lmao, it is a great idea tho, kickoffs are so weird
@AXEJAYB
@AXEJAYB Ай бұрын
What about it is terrible?
@selfloathinggameing
@selfloathinggameing 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, killing the surprise onside kick has the purpose of revivng kickoff returns. Every kickoff in the Super Bowl was a touchback whereas watching the XFL and UFL has actually made me look forward to kickoffs since they have a real impact on scoring
@jasoneng3161
@jasoneng3161 2 ай бұрын
Exactly! People can be sad about the surprise onside, but they are incredibly rare in actual week to week games. This will make kickoffs in EVERY game more fun to watch and not just a snack break.
@goodmaro
@goodmaro 2 ай бұрын
@@jasoneng3161 Or they could go back to the rules of the 20th Century (or even more recently) and have both.
@jeffyplushadventures9803
@jeffyplushadventures9803 Ай бұрын
Not every Super Bowl kickoff was a tocuchback devin Hester of the bears return it on the opening kickoff
@theclamhammer4447
@theclamhammer4447 2 ай бұрын
Players: Can we please ditch the turf tearing our ACLs? Owners/NFL: We hear your voices and have decided to axe the kickoff process bc we care about player safety.
@Cooe.
@Cooe. 4 күн бұрын
Two wrongs don't make a right. They are BOTH major health problems. 🤷
@theclamhammer4447
@theclamhammer4447 4 күн бұрын
@@Cooe. you’re missing the point. One costs real money. Despite the NFL claims about safety they are always choosing saving money over that same player safety they love to virtue signal about.
@Cooe.
@Cooe. 4 күн бұрын
@@theclamhammer4447 They both cost money. Concussions take players off the field and CTE lawsuits are worse than anything torn ACL's can cause.
@queenvrook
@queenvrook 2 ай бұрын
I remember seeing this play very occasionally in the 70's. The problem at the time was that teams attempting an onside kick -- as the Vikings did when they were down against the 49ers late in a playoff game -- the whole team would line up along the kickoff line, then shift over to the side they were kicking to, totally telegraphing the onside kick. I believe it was Curt Gowdy I heard saying that they should just kick without the shift and catch the team by surprise.
@DamonNomad82
@DamonNomad82 2 ай бұрын
0:44 The first onside kick I ever witnessed, and the one that made me aware that onside kicks existed, when the Steelers did it in Super Bowl XXX, which was also the first Super Bowl I ever watched all the way through.
@monolith2001
@monolith2001 Ай бұрын
The Falcons had a three onside kick game in 2019 against the Saints. Only two counted due to a bad call for offsides. That was wild.
@xZOOMORPHICx
@xZOOMORPHICx Ай бұрын
The surprise onside kick and onside kicks in general are some of my favorite plays. The surprise onside kick is very risky, making it extremely exciting. The standard onside kick although only having a 10% chance of working, is still one of the most exciting plays in football. When it works it can kead to a team overcoming a teo score deficit in a very short period of time. It's exciting, plain and simple.
@rolmodel12.
@rolmodel12. 2 ай бұрын
Two things: LOVE the historical content, my guy 😎 And the other: the 2000 Eagles onside vs. Dallas, in Dallas, to open the game (and the season) is also known as The Pickle Juice Game. It was warm and humid all week, and especially that day, and to prepare the Eagles players were drinking pickle juice in the days before and that morning (the vinegar helps flush the body of toxins, the added sodium helps maintain electrolyte balance). And it worked. Philly romped the Cowboys, 41 - 14. The Eagles rushed for over 300yds (Duce Staley topped 200 by himself), held the Cowboys to 167 yds of total offense (Dallas QB's were sacked 5 times, and completed less than 50%... this would end up being Aikman's last year). That game set a tone: the new Eagles were here. After 3 straight terrible seasons, Philly was turning the corner and would be relevant in the NFCE for most of the following decade. I was there and had a blast. Lost my voice. And it's the only time I've seen my beloved Birds play live.
@chinchintabete
@chinchintabete Ай бұрын
Duce also dropped a duce in a woman's closet when he played in Pittsburgh!
@jason2mate
@jason2mate 2 ай бұрын
As someone who watches this from Australia and just likes all the sports, it kinda surprises me that there wasn't more in the style of Rugby where you could go for a mid range (probably 15-20) high kick to try and get the possession off a jump (with the better momentum on your side) though I guess it probably comes down to not having the time to prep for something like that.
@scmtx
@scmtx 2 ай бұрын
If the ball is just kicked in the air the receiver can call a fair catch and be allowed to catch it without interference
@alexvankeulen7171
@alexvankeulen7171 2 ай бұрын
It has to touch the ground
@psymar
@psymar 2 ай бұрын
If you just kick it high the other team will call for a fair catch and you can only get it if they fumble. Teams used to try for a high bounce, but since they've added a rule that you can fair catch a first bounce as well.
@goodmaro
@goodmaro 2 ай бұрын
No, it comes down to American rules, where the receiving team (for the past century) has to be given opportunity to catch a fly ball; plus, even if the kicking team recovers, the ball is dead. Not so in Canadian rules, where that type of kickoff is still used.
@psymar
@psymar 2 ай бұрын
Comeuppance is not a synonym for revenge, it rather is when doing something to hurt another cycles around to hurt you, regardless of whether it's done by the original victim. If Team A suprise onsides team B, comeuppance is any team hitting a surprise onside against team A.
@irjake
@irjake 2 ай бұрын
Hey Isaac - Inigo Montoya has something to say about your usage of the word comeuppance: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
@zacharyjeffares8158
@zacharyjeffares8158 Ай бұрын
Looks like the only kicks that would work now would be “kick on the run” like in Rugby and Aussie Rules, a stinger, and the high hop.
@discgolfwes
@discgolfwes 2 ай бұрын
Bird treason is the highest form of treason
@yeahwersexybeasts
@yeahwersexybeasts Ай бұрын
Agreed
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 Ай бұрын
I practice bird law
@vladdydaddy5197
@vladdydaddy5197 2 ай бұрын
New Isaac Punts while I make lunch? W
@jonathanfeldheim6554
@jonathanfeldheim6554 2 ай бұрын
If Andy Reid hadn't done it at Dallas in 2000 who knows if this would ever have become a thing
@dboydixon1906
@dboydixon1906 2 ай бұрын
Man this reminded me of when I got hit with an accedental stinger kick in grade school. I had no time to react and I didn't even know they could do that
@fortknox4740
@fortknox4740 Ай бұрын
The Seahawks started doing surprise onside kicks with Efren Herrera in 1978, see the Legend of Efren Herrera for more footage, nice work on this video
@hermanturnip3984
@hermanturnip3984 2 ай бұрын
Can you acknowledge an onside kick in the fourth quarter and then not do it? Just curious. I'm not hip-deep into the new rules. Great introspective into the history of this play.
@DamonNomad82
@DamonNomad82 2 ай бұрын
If that is legal to do, I could see it becoming a tactic I would dub the "Cry Wolf". A team always declares onside kicks before every 4th quarter kickoff, but kicks the ball normally most of the time, to put opponents off guard when they actually DO need to try one. If the same thought occurred to the makers of the rule, I suspect that it's probably against the rules...
@hermanturnip3984
@hermanturnip3984 2 ай бұрын
@@DamonNomad82 Yeah, my thoughts exactly. If allowed to do this I'm sure teams would attempt to use it to their advantage.
@gannrr
@gannrr Ай бұрын
When the jags did this to the chiefs; a piece of me died inside. Im so sad future fans wont get feel such a heartbreak like i did that day.
@tweeterhead2320
@tweeterhead2320 Ай бұрын
How could you miss the Seahawks onside kick vs the Packers in the 2014 NFC championship ;-;. Such a beautiful game
@teo_heel
@teo_heel Ай бұрын
What about a surprise onside punt in CFL?
@wompa70
@wompa70 2 ай бұрын
Woohoo Atlanta on top for a change!!
@adamtravan3946
@adamtravan3946 Ай бұрын
Change is hard. Change is sometimes needed. There will be surprises.
@eddydayvlog
@eddydayvlog 2 ай бұрын
You left out 2007 bears vs lions in ford field failed onside kick recovered and returned for touchdown by Detroit
@goodmaro
@goodmaro 2 ай бұрын
The onside kickoff is far older than your research goes. Where to start? In the commonest organized form of football played in the USA before the college students took up rugby, it was specified that the kickoff not be "babied", effectively banning the onside kickoff. But once the colleges took up rugby, there was no minimum distance required for the ball to go forward, so it could just be tapped (a "technical kickoff") and picked up. Once this led to the flying wedge, however, a requirement that the ball be kicked forward 10 yards was adopted in 1895 with the aim of outlawing that play. However, it remained common to chip the ball high and to the side to give the kicking team a chance to recover in the air. The reason there was particular interest in onside kickoffs in 1924 was that in 1923 "opportunity to catch the ball" was introduced for the receiving team in the rules, effectively outlawing in American, but not Canadian, rules the commonest former kind of onside kickoff (the chip to the side). This renewed interest in the style of kickoff where the ball is made to hit the ground (making a catch impossible) before the kicking team player recovers it.
@KingHarambe_RIP
@KingHarambe_RIP Ай бұрын
With single digit success rates since the last rule change in 2018, the onside kick in general is a dead play now.
@Kodiakk
@Kodiakk Ай бұрын
Missed Broncos vs Raiders Week 1 last year
@Nbgfghfd
@Nbgfghfd Ай бұрын
You forgot the Arizona vs Philadelphia one from this year
@Officer_harding
@Officer_harding Ай бұрын
Cowboys did it to the falcons in 2020 to finish off that 20 point comeback
@IsaacPunts
@IsaacPunts Ай бұрын
I love that play, but it was s regular onside, not a surprise one.
@innotech
@innotech Ай бұрын
Every Saints fan 😊
@sbeebs1419
@sbeebs1419 Ай бұрын
What you call a “stinger” onside I call a “bitch kick” because as an up man I’ve seen it too many times and it HURTS
@Ghost29303
@Ghost29303 Ай бұрын
The NFL have just tied NASCAR for having the dumbest rules is sports history .
@williamsanphy3126
@williamsanphy3126 2 ай бұрын
Didn’t Younghoe Koo have like 3 in a game in 2019
@IsaacPunts
@IsaacPunts 2 ай бұрын
Not surprise ones
@jackripper5270
@jackripper5270 2 ай бұрын
The on side kick dying is my one dislike of the new kickoff rule ... But i think kick offs will be more entertaining as a whole?
@thenextsteveblackman
@thenextsteveblackman 2 ай бұрын
I'm all for player safety, but if you're going to legislate all the fun out of kickoffs, then maybe just get rid of the play altogether. I forget who came up with this idea, but I heard a KZbinr say we should get rid of the kickoff entirely and replace it with a 4th and 15 for the team that just scored. Then they can either punt the ball away or go for it to try and keep possession.
@TierNoneOperator
@TierNoneOperator 2 ай бұрын
I feel like that could be exploited to easily. Maybe 4th and 20. Or just do all punts with the option for a fake.
@thenextsteveblackman
@thenextsteveblackman 2 ай бұрын
@@TierNoneOperator Whoever came up with it said the odds of converting a 4th and 15 were roughly the same as converting an inside kick, though with the way offense has improved, that may not longer be the case.
@yaboyotis
@yaboyotis Ай бұрын
“Kickoffs Are Stupid And Bad” by Jon Bois of Secret Base
@ridemywheelie
@ridemywheelie Ай бұрын
Ticky-tac defensive penalties would ruin that.
@bembrysburner3068
@bembrysburner3068 Ай бұрын
So how does this affect Patrick Mahomes's legacy?
@eddydayvlog
@eddydayvlog 2 ай бұрын
You left out jets vs bears 2006 failed surprise onside kick
@arthurmcdermott3312
@arthurmcdermott3312 Ай бұрын
They should change to flag football like the all-star game. You know, for players safety. Maybe then more people would watch hockey. Though that's becoming a bit scripted also.
@koldonn1111
@koldonn1111 2 ай бұрын
Did College change the rule too?????
@arc7gaming
@arc7gaming Ай бұрын
Is referring to the Panthers as the "special kid" necessary? The Panthers weren't always bad.
@IsaacPunts
@IsaacPunts Ай бұрын
As a Carolina Native who knows that the Panthers were Superbowl contenders around both times they had surprise onsides pulled on them, yes I like to pick on my team because they're floundering now and it makes me sad.
@architect011_3
@architect011_3 Ай бұрын
The NFL does not care about player safety.
@philliporsit
@philliporsit Ай бұрын
Hire an editor yo
@DarranKern
@DarranKern Ай бұрын
I hate the nfl so much
@handlesareanunfortunatefeature
@handlesareanunfortunatefeature 2 ай бұрын
Please take away the transitional sound effects. Don't think it adds to the video and it just kinda irks me and I presume at least some other people
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