The American Civil War and the Battle of Glorieta Pass. HD episode

[@keithbishop9759]

My ggf was at Glorietta Pass as a member of the Texas 7th Cavalry. His name was Gustav Lorenz. He survived, came back to Texas and settled in Guadalupe County and took up farming. He is buried in Kingsbury, Texas.

[@Snizz315]

It’s always blown my mind that people are proud of their ancestors who fought to preserve an archaic belief called slavery. Congrats, I guess.

[@sandidavis820]

​@@Snizz315 The South wanted more than just being able to keep slaves and if you want to know a bit more, the north had slaves also. The South wanted to govern themselves. Please read up on your history before you put your foot in your mouth again, for all to see!!!

[@Snizz315]

@@sandidavis820 they wanted to protect states rights to ultimately protect slavery… wasn’t about much beyond that but I’m sorry I triggered you. You must be one of those fans of one sided history your grandpappy taught you.

[@sandidavis820]

@Snizz315 I'm a history nut and study and listen to and read, my grandparents didn't care about history. I have Irish in my blood line and to me, the north was too much like the english in Ireland. I also have Scottish, Dutch and Native American. I was born and raised in New York State, but I sympathize with the South, I am a true Rebel, in more ways than one. I am 78 and NO ONE can change my mind. Freedom for the Native Americans, Irish, Scottish and Blacks. . I am complicated!!!

[@Snizz315]

Complicated or unstable, either or. Let’s just hope you don’t make it to 79

[@dlbarton721]

When I lived in AZ, I participated in Civil War re-enacting and performed these battles in NM. We also did the Battle of Socorro and the Battle of Picacho Pass in AZ.

[@alonzomadero9413]

Way to go!! I wish I could have seen these reenactments!! Thank you for sharing and participating!

[@kevinschmidt3846]

Did this event in Az for about 10 years running. Photo is of myself and sons portraying volunteers of the “Army Of New Mexico “. file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/35/05/2531CC0B-788E-41C9-B055-A31619DC5826/FullSizeRender.heic

[@mcsweeneyb1]

We live in Glorieta and are a part of the Glorieta Pass Fire Department...We have friends who take part in the reenactment battle camp each year

[@halfcantan1208]

I live in Ireland born and bred here and I'd just like to say how refreshing it is to hear about history in a non biased way thank you

[@maryjoforrest1011]

Was that the Chivington of infamous Indian battles?

[@nedludd7622]

Nothing is unbiased in recounting history. Just deciding what subjects to address shows a bias.

[@davidgreene6976]

I like Our Lady of Knock in Ireland.I learned about her through apparitions in America.

[@svenhillring3275]

​@@maryjoforrest1011Yes, it was.

[@CoaxDog]

History Guy always does a great job of recounting history from a neutral factually accurate perspective. It's very refreshing to hear history without today's PC commentary interjected at every turn.

[@tomalexander4327]

This is an important lesson on how important logistics are in the field.

[@stephenroberts4895]

I was born and raised in New Mexico. It's a damn shame that history like this is not mentioned in New Mexico history classes. Thanks for sharing this story.

[@alonzomadero9413]

You’re absolutely right! Born and raised in New Mexico, still in New Mexico. Little is mentioned about the Civil War in NM. Even in New Mexico history classes I took in school.

[@reaper305LG]

It was when I went to school and New Mexicans played a big role in the success of this battle. It used to be recreated every year in Glorieta

[@olllloollllo]

Did you go to college? It's mentioned in college NM history courses.

[@stephenroberts4895]

@@olllloollllo In the high school NM history classes its not.

[@alonzomadero9413]

@@stephenroberts4895 no it is not.

[@davidharris6581]

The most amazing thing to me is the terrain. After visiting it is easy to see how the battle had no cohesion. Some of the most difficult terrain ever fought over.

[@itsapittie]

Ain't that the truth! Some 20 years or so ago I walked and rode a horse over some of that area. Between the bad footing, broken terrain, and inevitable dust clouds, I can hardly image a worse place to fight.

[@oceanhome2023]

I stopped at the historical marker yesterday to take some pics, my impression of that General area was of large hills , many small streams and extremely wooded , absolutely beautiful when you compare it with the rest of the state kind of like how. Prescott Az looks nothing like Arizona. I was on my way to Colorado but I thought this jewel of NM would be a beautiful place to live ! Don’t tell everybody !

[@alectitus4859]

I’m from Santa Fe and have been there. You can see a lot more civil war battlefields than you would expect.

[@ArmenianBishop]

I'm a Civil War Buff with a History Degree from UCSC. It's kind of satisfying that I've known about this little known battle, as well as many other obscure details about the American Civil War. Having said that, this is very well done, fun to watch, and I did find this very helpful as well as interesting. History Guy excellent presentations.

[@archiveacc3248]

Knew he was the real deal when he brought up the sibley tent 💪

[@bushwackcreek]

The most amazing thing about Fort Union was that Slough's troops were able to build an earthen-work "star" fort before the Confederates even came close. Visiting the ruins of Fort Union today is a very interesting outing. You can see the original fort a few hundred yards to the West toward Mora under the bluff, walk over the Pentangle remains of the Civil War "Fort" and the very substantial remains of the Post Civil War Fort (mostly adobe) that was a terminus of the Santa Fe Trail and the ruins of the largest Hospital west of the Mississippi at that time. After abandoned, the locals looted Fort Union of all the timber, lumber, rooves. windows and doors that protected their adobe structures from ruin.

[@DavidHBurkart]

Wow

[@crankybuzzard6867]

I was up that way today. Will set up for a longer visit to the battlefield. Living in Albuquerque (grew up in Michigan and was stationed at Holloman AFB in the early 70s) has been great as a jump off for Ft. Bliss to Ft. Craig and then up to Ft. Union. The history out here is amazing, and one just cannot get enough. Funny, how the locals have no clue. Even with the Spaceport set to make history and really put New Mexico on the map internationally.... the locals... have no clue. Great video!! Loved it!!

[@kennethcaine3402]

If I had a History Teacher like You I would have learned a tremendous amount, you have a gift of being able to make everything as simple and informative. I'm 67 and I believe your need to learn something every day, and History is really important and interesting. Thanks

[@stevenhenry4127]

Hello Kenneth how's the weather over there

[@amishbull6544]

I've been over Glorieta pass dozens of times, and even had to go to Fort Union a few times on business, but had no idea the civil war had played any part in New Mexico. Another great lesson, thanks History Guy!

[@davidgreene6976]

Amish bull you forgot to clean up those droppings you left on the battlefield.🙃😊😅😂😭Crying with laughter😂😂You want to Fort Union to do your business on the ground,those poor soldiers 😢😢😂😂

[@Itzmihowz]

There is so much we as a nation are unaware of when it comes to our history. Thank you for your enlightening insights.

[@gonzalesrafael22]

I saw this video a while back and only recently came across the story in a book called “Blood and Thunder”. The stories about this specific theater of the Civil War was so interesting. I wish you would go in to the stunning push of the Pikes Peakers who made an incredible trek from Colorado down to New Mexico just to reinforce the Union troop. That trek alone was seen as an unbelievable feat in itself. Thank you for all you do.

[@svenhillring3275]

Flint Whitlock's book "Distant Bugles Distant Drums" is a good account of the Colorado troops at Glorieta.

[@davidgreene6976]

Your version of this battle is my favorite and completely truthful.The New Mexico regiments were mostly Mexicans but there were also European American and American Indians in these regiments.Some of the recruits came from Arizona.

[@BrianMcCarthy-z9l]

They weren't Mexicans, but New Mexicans, who had been pretty isolated from Old Mexico for nearly two centuries. They'd also intermarried with the locals who had converted to Catholicism.

[@joelparra2152]

Isolated from Mexico? Even is it's true that New Mexico was the northern frontier and neglected to a degree, to say that it was isolated is to ignore the pretty good amount of commerce and communications taking place between New Mexico and other states like Chihuahua and Durango. The whole isolation thing is a more modern approach that tries to describe New Mexico as some sort of "unique" place, in the same way that New Mexicans would start calling themselves Spanish Americans when the tag of "Mexican" started to be resented because of clashes with Anglo people.

[@BrianMcCarthy-z9l]

@@joelparra2152 New Mexico was part of the Spanish Empire. Modern Mexico independent of Spain had only been around since about 1820. Spanish American is a better self description. If we go by Mexico's claims in the early 1800's Guatemalans should call themselves Mexicans. Certainly there was communication and trade back to Sonora and Chihuahua but New Mexico was the back end of nowhere in Mexican terms. Most modern New Mexicans with family roots in the area are right to consider themselves fairly unique with food and customs to match. At least by the ones I know. The same was true for California. The Federalist movement, which easily turned to independence movements as it did in Texas, was strong in the northern Mexican part of the recently deceased Spanish Empire. Mexico was centered in the Great Valley of Mexico. It took brutal repression by the dictator Santa Ana to crush it and it still survived until Porfirio Diaz.

[@joelparra2152]

​@@BrianMcCarthy-z9l Spanish American only became a thing because of cultural conflicts in the area as a way to be perceived as "white" because of their Spanish heritage, pushing local scholars to redact some myths like "New Mexicans speaking the Spanish of the 16th century," completely ignoring migration influxes after 1598. This is particularly true for Southern New Mexico, with many families there having their roots connected to both pioneer families and Chihuahua families coming in during the 19th century. Authors like Anthony Mora do a good job explaining how identity terms served to navigate social climates, with some people using Spanish American among English speaking circles but subscribing to the term mexicano when talking to fellow Hispanics. And don't mix things with New Mexico and Texas. The federalist movement in New Mexico, which led to the Chimayo Rebellion of 1837 took place after the Texas Revolution, it advocated for a federal state -no independence, and it was quelled by New Mexican volunteers, federal troops arrived after the conflict and by request of Manuel Armijo, who would rule th state until American occupation and had many political connections including Bishop Zubiria in Durango and many Chihuahuan merchants.

[@JuanWick209bkaAngel]

My Lipan Apache great great great grandfather was one of the Natives to fight for the confederacy in Texas. My grandfather still has his confederate civil war hat and coat. He wears it for Halloween every once in awhile, he sits there holding a flagstaff with a confederate flag and tries not to smile or chuckle while saying 'the south shall rise again' while looking very much like the typical stoic native american 😂😂 imagine geronimo in confederate garb thats pretty much what he looks like. Also the Lipan Apache are who Geronimo would go to to hide out at our secret hiding places. We were some of the last natives to fight against the US government and refused to be assigned role numbers 😎

[@DesperateDigger666]

Gosh, thanks, History Guy. Thanks to you, I've acquired some additional knowledge of New Mexico, without the need to visit the state. That's a win/win from my reckoning.

[@jerryreynolds4731]

When in college at Socorro, NM, made several trips to Fort Craig, often times after a rain storm, some small artifacts...mostly minne balls could be located.......

[@civilwarwildwest]

Great video! Glorieta Pass may be one of the most important events of the American West. I was listening to some great episodes (96-99) of The Civil War Podcast, and they offered some great detailed insights on Sibley's campaign. Tons of fun.

[@aaronthomas8190]

I would argue that the biggest lesson of the campaign is that logistics are of paramount importance. Wonderful video.

[@lotharvonrichthofen4474]

I always appreciate your precious tidbits of history thank you

[@Angbwillinspireu]

My family can trace our lineage back to Texas & New Mexico when they were still "New Spain", later Mexico, and the Independent Republic of Texas. I love learning about history omitted from our school history books. Thank you for enriching us with history facts & knowledge.

[@ArmyVet59]

Growing up in New Mexico and knowing Ft. UNION and knowing Las Vegas and Santa Fe plus the stories our ancestors it was the new Mexican people that played a big part in history

[@johntsyitee9919]

Great video! I'm from near both Ft. Union and Glorieta. I've been to Ft. Union many times.

[@emintey]

I got you on this one History Guy. There was a unit of lancers in the Union cavalry called the 6th Pennsylvania Cavalry, or "Rush's Lancers". According to wikipedia they were armed with 9 ft Austrian lances and saw action with the cavalry division of the Army of the Potomac from Sept. 1861 to May of 1863 when they were rearmed with Sharpes carbines.

[@kentuckycrittercamera9407]

The 1st Colorado infantry played a huge role in this battle.

[@caseyasher8806]

The skirmish at Picacho Peak in Arizona is fascinating too. We used to live near there - used to be a great reenactment there every year.

[@manuelsanchezdeinigo3959]

¡Que Viva la gente de Norte! ¡Que Viva Nueva México! ⚔️🇪🇦🇺🇲⚔️

[@ironcross7854]

Keep telling History of the Civil war. People want to forget but needs to be remembered.

[@williamchapman9614]

Little know history that deserves to be remembered about New Mexico, a small place called dog canyon and a victory for the American Indians. A place dear to me but have never heard mentioned in any history book.

[@PhilipLeitch]

Going into University I though subjects would be boring or interesting based on the content. I quickly learnt that it was actually dependant on the enthusiasm of the lecturer. Your enthusiasm for history is contagious.

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Amen.

[@44punk]

Well said.

[@lynnbernhard9195]

Fort Union is east of Santa Fe, I believe. Interesting video, well done and excellent in setting the context and content for the commander's actions.

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

You are correct, north and east. Sorry if I misspoke.

[@mcsweeneyb1]

Ft Union is just north of Las Vegas NM on the old Santa Fe trail and now I-25

[@ericthered760]

This is just too ironic: the Confederate commander was named (Scurry - as in hurry up), while the Union commander was named Slough (as in slow). One guy was fast, while the other was slow. Too much !

[@essanance]

I'll honestly say your my fav Historical Personality on You Tube .

[@stevenhenry4127]

Hello Essanance how's the weather over there

[@lahockeyboy]

Great episode, Professor...I've actually been to this site in N.M.

[@matthewkuchinski1769]

Very good video! I heard about this important yet highly overlooked battle a few years back and have been truly fascinated by the different characters that permeated this campaign. Not only did you have Brigadier General Henry Hopkins Sibley, who was an inventor of one of the most well-known tents of the American Civil War and a colorful drunk, but you also had Brigadier General Edward Canby who was a true hero of the Union Army who led a rag-tag force against an equally hodgepodge Confederate host. Then there was Colonel Chivington, the former Presbyterian preacher turned soldier that would win accolades during Glorieta, only to commit one of the greatest atrocities in American history. Finally, there was the 1st Colorado, a regiment of gun slingers, saloon people, cowboys, bar brawlers, and other individuals who would make an epic march from Colorado to New Mexico, help win the Battle of Glorieta Pass, and then force the Confederates to flee back to Texas.

[@matthewkuchinski1769]

Thanks very much. I did forget that it was Methodist, not Presbyterian. Still, Chivington was a nutcase who perpetrated the Sand Creek Massacre after the New Mexico Campaign.

[@michaelfraser4396]

@Gary Daniel Unfortunately many of the Union leaders were evil. They targeted civilians, raped, pillaged, and plundered. These were the type of Generals Lincoln wanted. If you don't believe that look up Col Turchin. He allowed his troops to commit whatever atrocities they wanted. He was court-martialed for that. Lincoln commuted his sentence and asked Congress to promote him to a Brigadier General. Sheridan and Sherman were of the same low caliber. No, I am not from the South.

[@michaelfraser4396]

@Gary Daniel They purposely targeted civilians. They stole or destroyed anything and everything that people needed to survive, food, homes, dishes, silverware, animals, poultry, etc... Estimates are that 50,000 civilians died because of what they did. I call that evil. The same generals then went after the Indians after the war. There are some books that tell the unrevised history (See the Norman Dodd Interview on KZbin) of what happened, The Real Lincoln, The War Between the States - America's Uncivil War, and To the Victor Go the Myths and the Monuments, to name a few. I also had a much different opinion of these people before I read these well documented books. As one Union soldier wrote home. "I don't have a problem fighting men in arms, but I do fighting babes in arms." The heartless disregard for women, children, and the elderly was appalling especially in New Orleans, Sherman's March to the Sea, and the Shenandoah Valley campaign. There were atrocities on both sides especially in Kansas, but the almost all Southern Generals made sure their troops maintained order.

[@michaelfraser4396]

@Gary Daniel Most of the tyranny originated from Illuminism, Jacobins, or whatever name(s) you wish to associate with these people. The roots trace back to Weishaupt and Rothschild and company. Many radicals from Europe migrated to the US. The newly formed Republican Party were mainly communists pushing for a world government. There were many in the Democratic Party back then that were of the same persuasion. There are a lot of well known names from back then associated with this movement, Webster, Longfellow, Buchanan, Stanton, and Jefferson Davis to name a few. In the 1860 election, there were two Democratic Conventions. The divided Democrats ensured a Republican victory no matter who the candidate was.After the election and the succession of several Southern states, the Radical Republicans, as they would be called, dominated Congress and had a President sympathetic to many of their views. One of the goals of these Radicals was to eradicate Christianity. I believe it is one of the reasons that the Southern civilians were targeted. The freedom minded American public would not tolerate the atrocities committed during the French Revolution, but there were many similarities carried out on a lesser scale.

[@michaelfraser4396]

@Gary Daniel Thank you for your reply. i don' have a problem with a general conducting war against enemy troops. I do have a problem with them conducting war on innocent civilians. Making women, children, and the elderly homeless by shelling their houses, stealing anything they can and destroying what they can't take cannot be justified. Such atrocious conduct continued when they battled the Indians. The government and military policies almost ensured that many of the Indians would fight back. The Radial Republicans like Benjamin Wade were blatant communists or a more accurate term would be globalists. They despised our Constitution and the Christian culture in the South and did all they could to destroy them both. Their fate is now in the hands of God, but we still have to live with the consequences of what they started.

[@c.w.johnsonjr6374]

Great video! Fun Fact: The cannons captured at Valverde by the Confederates became known as the Val Verde Battery. They were used by the South at the last decisive Confederate victory of the war at Mansfield, LA, about 30 minutes from my hometown. They were actually fired again during a reenactment in the 1960s. If you're looking into an unusual bit of history, you may want to look into the Red River Campaign and the Battle of Mansfield. It's an unusual campaign because it's objective for the North was to capture cotton for the New England mills and liberate Texas so unionists could vote in the 1864 presidential election.

[@douglasw9624]

An grand uncle of mine was at both battles Val Verde and Red River...he wasn't very complimentary of Sibley...in an account of his war experiences he mentions the captured cannons and their use on the Red River.

[@44punk]

Very interesting to hear. I had read that many cannons had been abandoned by Sibley during the retreat south through New Mexico. Especially on the leg through the Gila attempting to avoid Union fortifications. Neat to hear that they still exist.

[@johnjay9404]

As a boy growing up in Virginia, I worked at the Manassas battlefield park. I thought I knew a lot about the Civil War until years later I lived in Santa Fe and learned about the campaign there. I must ad, that is a rough terrain. It's the Rocky mountains and a desert and winter comes early and leaves late. It would be tough on any army.

[@jwhite146]

Thanks for this video. It is a truly colorful part of civil war history. I have a talk on this campaign and you leave out the fact the the Confederates got really good a getting their wagons burn, as it happened in almost every fight. Or that of Captain Theodore Dodd's rallied his company of Colorado Volunteers by calling out “Here comes those gold stealing Texans” to formed square when charged by lancers of the 5th Texas Mounted Rifles. Was out there and followed the path of the campaign sadly before they opened the battlefield to walking tours. At Pecos National Historical Park it was funny how every ranger ask if we knew there was a civil war battle fought there. My SO would answer "He knows that why we are here". Also seems that one of the Confederate Dr. did not have water to clean his instruments so had to use the CO rotgut whiskey supplies. He reported a lot less infection problems.

[@freezegopher7054]

"the lancer thing didn't work out very well" LOL

[@itsapittie]

Just speculation, but I wonder if the Texans' decision to form a unit of lancers had anything to do with their experience with Mexican lancers. At the time of the U. S. Civil War, Mexico still had units of lancers and had used them to good effect as recently as the Mexican-American war. You have to bear in mind that in just two decades military firearms had made a quantum leap forward and almost everyone went into the ACW with outdated ideas. The improved range and reliability of the rifle musket and the advent of repeating firearms had rendered the lance obsolete and the bayonet obsolescent but almost nobody realized that at the beginning of the war.

[@72Stiles]

Tuco: "Sibley's men are retreating up there. - Canby's men are coming here. - But no one will set foot in this hell, except you and me..."

[@darthtrudeau4907]

I could hear the eerie violin creeping in whilst reading this.

[@guyh.4553]

Great topic! I knew a little bit about the Western campaign but not the details. Extremely interesting. Thanks!

[@TedinLasVegas]

Loved this entry more than the rest, thank you for pointing it out!

[@KeithA_VikingFan]

Sir I am so glad to find your channel! Searhing KZbin for anything of substance has been more than challenging. Bravo and thank you very much.

[@jeffreykostbar9859]

love all your history. watching is so much during this pandemic lock down. you are great and I learn a lot.

[@andraslibal]

I have to visit these places next time I am in NM. Thanks for the tip.

[@-.Steven]

Loved it History Guy! Thanks for sharing this little remembered nugget from American history!

[@Hydroherr]

Love all your casts. Some ideas for future. A town called Asbestos, Canada. General Patton in the Olympics. Noah Code before refrigeration we use to eat live animals. Thanks again.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Such a fascinating story in history, thank you!

[@rocksandoil2241]

Was there in 2013. I can't imagine fighting in that terrain.

[@kennethhammond4028]

Shelby Foote volume 1, brought me here. Obscure no longer but intriguing I must say.😊 history buff from New Zealand.

[@alonzomadero9413]

Thank you very much for this post!

[@johntabler349]

If I were a off Hollywood movie producer I'd use this channel as source material for a string of forgotten history films and hire you as technical advisor but alas I am a farmer not a movie producer

[@timothyhays1817]

What's funny about this story it is in part of the movie The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. The famous direct Sergio Leonie from Italy made it. But all three main actors were American stars.

[@MrInjun382]

Hollywood wants nothing to do with facts.

[@earlismarks7108]

God bless the farmer by golly..

[@bel6891]

John Dutton is a farmer 🤠

[@TheStapleGunKid]

The New Mexico campaign was actually the setting for the movie "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"

[@williambent9636]

I really enjoyed your succinct and yet thorough explanation of what happened at the Battle of Glorieta Pass and the events leading up to it. As someone interested in Bent's New Fort/Fort Lyon though, whose volunteers with Chivington saved the day on the way to Fort Union and then at the pass, I would have like to hear mention of them specifically. The same cast of characters who in just two years would take part in the Sand Creek Massacre where part of this group who marched south form Fort Lyon to save the day in 1862. On November 28th, 1864, most of them would be back at Fort Lyon, preparing to launch another attack under Chivington, and murder almost two hundred old men, women, and children. Chivington was only able to take over Fort Lyon because of the name he made for himself at the Battle of Glorieta Pass. You just can not leave it unsaid that he lead a ruthless mass murder against indigenous prisoners of war, which he considered another Civil War Battle, by the way.

[@joehay4455]

Interesting and educational as ever, thanks history guy!!

[@davemarks7322]

Well presented. You certainly are very good at this.

[@edwardgilmour9013]

US Army Maj Chivington based on that destruction of the CSA supplies; as he milked his reputation from that poorly executed event; then became infamous even in Au. He got a command that he led on attacks and massacres of several friendly, peaceful and allied (to the USA) Indian Tribes; the 'Naz Perce' tribe being one . For which we barely received a knuckle wrap.

[@daveeggleston8218]

The 6th Pennsylvania Cavalry, known as Rush's Lancers, also started the war armed with lances, but abandoned them sometime after the Peninsula Campaign, if I remember correctly.

[@billy56081]

I was stationed in Ft. Bliss, it is not a blissful place.

[@hossesarse]

Still better than Fort Hood, TX. When Planet Earth needs an enema, Fort Hood is where the tube is inserted. And the funny thing is Texans insist that surrounding area of Texas hill country is "nice", "pleasant", or even "lovely." The only place I can imagine worse right now is perhaps Phoenix in summer.

[@billm2078]

@@hossesarse I would better then Ft. Irwin where we did NTC. I remember waking up after the bus trip from Ft. Carson and saying to some other soldiers, it looks like the earth opened up and took a shit here.

[@stanwolenski9541]

Did my AIT at Ft. Bliss, being from NJ I found it to be the most vile place on earth and swore I would ever spend a one additional day in Texas. In subsequent years I found it’s vileness second only to a small nation in Southeast Asia. Anyway, eleven years later I found myself moving to Sugar Land Texas and have been there to this day and have loved every minute of it.

[@billy56081]

@@stanwolenski9541 I did both basic and AIT at Bliss in 89, we were in open bay barracks with swamp coolers. Roaches and scorpions were our roommates.

[@ji3194]

I loved Fort Bilss but that is because I am from Albuquerque so I could usually go home on the weekend.

[@grahvis]

One of the things I find fascinating about battles and war generally, is how large events can so often be affected by small pieces of luck.

[@leroybrown505]

Thats not luck, thats God.

[@jimmorgan8688]

Hang on, I do love history!

[@tsf5-productions]

These two "main stars" from the North (Federals) & the South (Confederates) were mentioned in the 1966 movie: "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" in a scene with "Tuco" played by Eli Wallach; "Angel Eyes - Setenza" played by Lee Van Cleef; & "Blondie - Joe" played by Clint Eastwood. The scene...as Tuco & Blondie were on their way from the Catholic mission were Tuco's brother, a priest there at the mission whom he hadn't seen in 9 years, nursed Blondie back to health after nearly forcibly being parched in the desert. Tuco mentioned Sibling & Canby as opposing forces on the next trail the "gold seekers" were on. Now...how accurate that was is the thing Hollywood script writers conjecture up for drama-action.

[@badweetabix]

First, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly script was written mostly by Sergio Leone, and the concept and some parts by Luciano Vincenzoni. Leone was an American Old West history buff. He owned and read several books on the subject so it was not a stretch that he would had known about Sibling & Canby. In my travels, I have found foreigners to know more about American history than the majority of Americans. A pretty sad statement.

[@MeadeFatLoss]

Propaganda movie

[@richardmourdock2719]

Whoa... Can't believe it, but I noted a slight, slight error, which I think was more likely a misstatement on behalf of the esteemed History Guy. Early on he mentions that part of Sibley's plan to head into California was to seize the "terminus of the Trans Continental Railroad.".. During the first half of the 1860s the railroad was in progress with some construction in California as they built to the east, but the Trans- Continental Railroad was not completed until four years after the war, in 1869. A minor point, to be sure as the H.G.'s work is exquisite.

[@thekinginyellow1744]

I noticed, and then noticed this as I was checking the comments before I posted. TCR wasn't even started until 1863, so didn't exist at all at the outbreak of the war.

[@prayerpatroller]

History Guy: If you want to see Johnsons Ranch and the area where the Southern supply chain was holed up and destroyed by the Union Forces, there is a real estate listing for the property at 38 Johnsons Ranch Road, Santa Fe NM that you can look up. It gives you some nice pictures of the area. The listing is for 1200 acres I believe and includes a couple of small lakes and Apache Creek.

[@stevenhenry4127]

Hello Ray how's the weather over there

[@prayerpatroller]

@@stevenhenry4127 Beautiful. I love fall. Well, not quite deep into fall, but tipping that way and the temps are great.

[@stevenhenry4127]

@@prayerpatroller Oh that's okay where are you from? I'm from Dallas Texas

[@prayerpatroller]

@@stevenhenry4127 Santa Fe NM

[@stevenhenry4127]

@@prayerpatroller That's a nice place nice meeting you where are you from? I'm from Dallas Texas

[@fightingbear8537]

The 6th Pennsylvania Calvary, known as Rushs Lancers, carried lances until after Gettysburg. Lances were used in WW1 also, by the British and Germans.

[@LePrince1890]

Chivington later sullied his own name by causing the Sand Creek Indian massacre.

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

Indeed.

[@dobypilgrim6160]

Jeff Bloomfield I despise he memory of that rotten bastard.

[@LePrince1890]

Actually, that is a particularly fitting point of view concerning Chivington.

[@TheRealRedRooster]

Maybe worth for another episode of that incident, which deserves to be remembered?

[@jamesdunn9714]

Chivington, Colorado is near where the massacre occurred. Not much there, a building or two. I wouldn't wish to live in the dead little town nor anywhere near it.

[@kellyharrington762]

Please consider doing a video about the First Minnesota in the Civil War

[@bperry9088]

For further confirmation, and expansion, to this presentation, one might read "Rebels on the Rio Grande", by Don E. Alberts. The Civil War Journal of A. B. Peticolas.

[@theonesickman]

Thanks for this great lesson.

[@CoaxDog]

History Guy always does a great job of recounting history from a neutral factually accurate perspective. It's very refreshing to hear history without today's PC commentary interjected at every turn.

[@blue2sco]

"Drunk Guy with a plan" love it

[@rodofiron100]

Classic Texas. "Here hold my beer" attacks and almost takes New Mexico.

[@MrInjun382]

I really enjoyed this one

[@robertjennings397]

Most are very interesting.

[@62andru]

My ancestor is Manuel Chavez, the hero of this battle. I live at the battlefield.

[@DT-sb9sv]

The Los Angeles Mounted Rifles is another interesting story from the west during the Civil War the California Confederate Calvary.

[@southernwanderer7912]

The biggest lesson is armies can't fight without food. As the old saying goes, armies "marched on their stomachs."

[@grahvis]

When the Japanese took Singapore in WW2, they were virtually at the point of exhaustion of both the men and their supplies, had they held out longer, the defenders might well have been successful in pushing them back.

[@stevejeter330]

Enjoyable as always

[@outdoorlife5396]

I have heard, that the Confederates retreat, was a disaster, that with the death and loosing equipment, that even today you can find their trail and pick up CW relics

[@bobgil9744]

You have any GPS coordinates? I am looks for a Confederate Sword.

[@outdoorlife5396]

@@bobgil9744 Follow the trail. It is marked by bones etc. There maybe some stuff still there. There food source was killed so they died on the way back. Look

[@diggingthewest7981]

A few years ago that's exactly what I was doing around Apache canyon. It's been hit hard for years but I did manage to find a handful of minie' balls, and two general service eagle buttons.

[@outdoorlife5396]

@@diggingthewest7981 Hey, always heard it was gold mine for finding CW stuff

[@diggingthewest7981]

@@outdoorlife5396 I had permission to a gentleman's property right there not far from pigeons ranch. He showed me pictures of when he was scraping a foundation for his garage and uncovered four or five Texas Confederate skeletons. Buttons and belt plates all intact! I detected really hard for 2 days and feel lucky enough to find what few relics I did.

[@bobjohnson3077]

Love the hat! Great video!

[@therenumerator9198]

Living in Albuquerque, New Mexico this hits home. Nicely done video. I have been to these places, a barren area but you can see the strategy of the plan. And there is an undercurrent of anti-Texas sentiment to this day. We will take their money but like them to go home home as soon as possible.

[@timdelvillar8063]

The barber must've gotten your boss tie in this episode!

[@johnsorber3546]

It would be nice to show some maps of the area and troop contact .

[@chrispieper61]

Have you covered the Battle of North Point? The 1812 land battle that was coordinated with the better know naval bombardment of Ft. McHenry. Very little evidence remains of the battle. It is largely forgotten, except by Baltimore locals.

[@txusmc69]

You should do one on the battle at Sabine Pass. We're 45 men took on an invasion Force of 5000 Union troops and won.

The Confederate defenders at Sabine Pass were all Irish immigrants led by Richard Dowling.

[@spartanwarrior1]

Lol invasion force. They were Americans, you traitor

[@txusmc69]

@@spartanwarrior1 oh shut up you idiot. The confederacy was a different country at the time and so yes it was an invasion.

[@blaisevillaume2225]

@@txusmc69 They said it was a different country, but they failed to prove it.

[@robd8577]

You Sir are an illiterate traitor.

[@johnlogan1179]

Thank you !🖖🏻🙏

[@johnruiz1296]

I was wondering if someone would mention about the battle at Picacho pass Arizona I’m also from Arizona

[@sdlonyer]

Fort Union is Northeast of Santa Fe - about 100 miles when you go through the Glorieta pass.

[@jedirevan5892]

The western most battle at Picacho Pass (always knew it as Picacho Peak) took place near the same time as this in Arizona. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Picacho_Pass

[@stevenhenry4127]

Hello Jedi how's the weather over there

[@jedirevan5892]

@@stevenhenry4127 Raining right now but was dry for months. Glad that its a rain storm and not like the monsoon where the horizonatal rain in the dark looked like light speed.

[@stevenhenry4127]

@@jedirevan5892 Oh i see where are you from? I'm from Dallas Texas nice meeting you

[@jedirevan5892]

@@stevenhenry4127 I'm from Phoenix but spent a decade in Utah.

[@southerncharm8211]

It's been a while, but I seem to remember visiting a site called Wounded Knee while in New Mexico. All of my pictures have been lost or destroyed, and I've never been able to find any information on it other than the plaque I read all those years ago. Can you possibly help me with this? Thank you in advance.

[@wschart]

Wounded Knee is in South Dakota, rather a long way from New Mexico. It was the site of an infamous massacre on December 29, 1890.

[@jk-76]

I've held artifacts from the battle. Cool story really.

[@douglasw9624]

pardon me for inserting a little family history. I had kin on both sides of this battle. Kit Carson is an uncle and another uncle George D Jones fought under Sibley. Jones indicated that the confederate troops were so short of supplies they had to eat coyotes on the way back to TX and in disgust ran off Sibley...not sure about the latter, but certainly Jones wasn't fond of the commander. Oddly Jones's nephew, Spears Wood, married Kit Carsons daughter Estella...so I guess they didn't hold any grudges ha

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

Great story!

[@douglasw9624]

by the way I am rather addicted to your channel...thank you!

[@dugroz]

So, just to clarify about your ancestor -- when role was called alphabetically, they said, "Wood, Spears?" :)

[@dugroz]

And ... was he one of the lancers??? (I'll show myself out now . . . )

[@rspineda58]

Excellent story telling HISTORY GUY

[@evandotterer4365]

The ironic thing about the confederate lancers is 50 or so years later Europe would make the same mistake in WWI. A fucking lance against a machine gun........

[@oceanhome2023]

I think the Poles tried it against the Wehrmacht in WW2

[@davidheathelry5159]

Hello history Guy. I really enjoy your site. The one thing I noticed was, there are a great many story's of officers having history together but I've never hear of that with NCO's. Do you know of any. I was just wondering. Please keep up the good work. GOD BLESS AND STAY SAFE. David A. Heatherly.

[@douglasstrother6584]

The Drum Barracks were established in Wilmington, California, to check Confederate sympathies in the area. It's worth a visit once they re-open.

[@kingmiura8138]

It is not correct that the 5th Texas Cavalry were the only lancers in the war. Jeb Stuart met a unit of Union cavalry who used lances early in the war in Virginia....I think it was a Pennsylvania unit....maybe they didn't proclaim themselves to be a lancer unit but they had lances and Stuart defeated them.

[@johnwood2788]

I have a suggestion for you. Do shows on the civil war battles fought in florida.like the Battle of Olustee natural bridge etc.

[@unknowntraveller8633]

Chance, luck, some of the greatest battles have been won because of these 2 fickle ladies. Nice little video, thank you.

[@brettd3206]

I have 2 uncles who died during the Glorieta Pass campaign

[@oceanhome2023]

WOW !!! Which side ?

[@brettd3206]

@@oceanhome2023 Came up from Milam county Texas. They basically died from illness and malnutrition

[@JohnWesleyHardin1853]

A minor correction: You mentioned that the 5th Texas cavalry was the only lancer unit in the ACW. There were several other company sized units, both Union and Confederate, that were initially armed with lances, as well as one full regiment, the 6th Pennsylvania cavalry, otherwise known as Rush's Lancers. This entire regiment carried lances from its formation in September 1861 until May 1863, when the lances were exchanged for breech loading carbines.

[@tomsenft7434]

What is a "breach loading carbine," and I am confused about who had lancers and who did not?

[@ahuitzotlacoyotl3355]

You missed the California Native Cavalry (the 1st Battalion), of which my great great great grandfather (Sgt. Vicente García), & many other Ventura Co. Chicanos & Chumash relatives of mine were members. If I remember what I read correctly, only Ramón Ayala came back to our Ventura Co. with an Army issued rifle: a Sharp's.

[@TheStapleGunKid]

@@tomsenft7434 Carbine is a shorter version of a rifle, much easier to handle on horseback. Breech-loading means it's loaded from the rear of the gun rather than the muzzle, which gives it a much faster reloading speed than a typical civil war rifle.

[@zollerdon]

Chivington was Infamous for the Sand Creek massacre in Colorado.

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

He was. I may do an episode on that some day.

[@andrewyarosh1809]

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered if you do, take the story past Sand Creek, and into the heroism of Silas Soule, the man who denounced Chivington and was assasinated on the streets of Denver by a man who was spirited out of town with the complicity of Colorado’s Governor, John Evans.

[@oceanhome2023]

@@andrewyarosh1809 Wow why did this happen ? Please tell me, I am a Coloradan

[@andrewyarosh1809]

@@oceanhome2023 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silas_Soule Chivington was protected by his friend Governor John Evans. Both were prominent Methodists, Masons, and involved with the founding of Trinity UMC in Denver and the Colorado Seminary (now the University of Denver). Chivington left Colorado after Sand Creek and his life for the next 20 years was one of both disgraceful and marginally criminal episodes. He was welcomed back in Denver in 1884 and his many powerful friends found him a job as a Deputy Sheriff. He had a very public funeral in 1894 and is buried in Denver’s prestigious Fairmount Cemetery. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Chivington

[@jmac8092]

Ty sir, epic