The American Tank Meme

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[@FlameStormer2000V2]

*"Because when it ran into an ambush it didn't magically deflect the shells and throw them back at the enemies who fired them."* I see you haven't played WarThunder.

[@Optimaloptimus]

Only the Sherman Jumbo. The normal Sherman will bounce so long as the enemy players a noob.

[@Hachiae]

@@Optimaloptimus just have to angle

[@pokemongo-py6yq]

Optimaloptimus50 50 If the Sherman is moving even an experienced player may bounce shots on the Sherman. The mantlet has two layers and the hull is hella tough. Also moving in it isn’t a problem because of the stabilizer allowing the gun to get on target so fast (the stabilizer is probably far more effective than it was irl).

[@Optimaloptimus]

Hachi Roku Some people just shoot the angle. Those are noobs.

[@Optimaloptimus]

pokemon go The real life stabilizer was that effective. The problem was that no one was trained to use it.

[@lentlemenproductions770]

Imagine dying in a fricking war, then 70 years later footage of your tank with your burning corpse in it is used in a dubstep remix, lmao

[@banegas0411]

Imagine bringing dozens of crews home safely just to be called a death trap

[@blitzkrieg6076]

Blattlaus dozens?

[@Aaronkbrown1125]

If you died during the 40s how would you see it later?

[@lentlemenproductions770]

@@Aaronkbrown1125 Never said you see it, simply stated it happens.

[@Aaronkbrown1125]

@@lentlemenproductions770 no hate no hate. I just mean How though? Now i get it

[@cvetomirgeorgiev9106]

The Sherman tank actually really struggled with killing tigers. That is because their transmission broke before the shermans could find them

[@HeiligerHeuler]

they had us in the first half, not going to lie!

[@bloodreaper8822]

Nice one and true

[@weik-2936]

"laughs in functional transmission"

[@yaboihanz7658]

Oof

[@fieldmarshalgaig9477]

Aw shit our transmission broke! Well let’s just put the turret on a bunker and see how it goes.

[@RandomDuude]

Sherman: Mom I want to be a big, strong tank like Ferdinand over there! Ferdinand over there: *Tries to go over a speedbump and explodes*

[@hectorandres2921]

Sherman: You know what? As long as I have easily replaceable parts and better mechanical reliability, I'm happy.

[@ironwoodnf]

@@hectorandres2921 AND a machine gun in the case of ol ferdi

[@thomasmacdonough288]

*ThaTS mY FuCKiNg FEnDeR!!!*

[@thomasmacdonough288]

Also whut about jumbo

[@philippebelozeroff9346]

You killed me. Unlike Ferdinands.

[@SpecterCat_]

"...being the right tank, for the wrong war." *proceeds to upgrade the Sherman and was used extensively until the 1970's*

[@moblinmajorgeneral]

Well, once the Pattons started rolling off the assembly lines, the US started gifting Shermans to literally everyone.

[@hannesbaumann8509]

To be fair... I think he means the vanilla version. The Firefly and whatever the israelis called their version was quite good apparently.

[@domagoj905]

@@hannesbaumann8509 M4A1 Revalorisé

[@drbomdaydayboms4890]

even in Korea the M4 found out the T34 was better lol... The only reason it was used so long was cuz it was ez to build at a low cost.. When do people start getting it?

[@madcourier6217]

@@drbomdaydayboms4890 With the 76mm gun and Hvap both tanks could easily kill each other at normal combat ranges. Except North Korean and Chinese tank crews were usually poorly trained compared to American tank crews.

[@TheCorship]

I feel like the sherman is a classic example of the survivor bias. We think they were death traps because people actually SURVIVED to tell the stories how their sherman burned up.

[@SofaKingShit]

More people to complain about more tanks with the sheer number of those tanks out there.

[@MasouShizuka]

The very fact those men survived is a testament to the Sherman itself.

[@bobbyjoe1111]

Yeah sure Ameriboo, tell yourself what you need to...

[@Rysussybaka]

@@bobbyjoe1111 1. Damn, you sound like a salty nationalist. 2. Survivor bias is a real thing. Look it up. His point was objective and perfectly plausible. 3. The fact that you accused this guy of being an "Ameriboo" just because he gave a plausible, statistical explanation for a perceived phenomenon makes it seem like you're the only one here obsessing over nationalities.

[@somuchtocook9159]

@@Rysussybaka if he was a true American he would be proud with how much we put into making tanks cheap but damn efficient, and also the fact that we survive the worst

[@RaeSyngKane]

The Ignorant Public: Sherman’s were death traps! So many of our men died! American heavy bomber losses: *begins sweating profusely

[@RKNGL]

The US Navy/Merchant Marine would be sweating the hardest. They refused to implement new tactics at the beginning of the war which lead to staggering losses. Admiral King was basically forced to change by Roosevelt who had, had enough of his bullshit.

[@Bravo21Niner]

I mean nothing really beats the 7th Infantry Divisions 700% loss rate though. It's so staggeringly bad it's an achievement all it's own, though not one anyone should be proud of.

[@h31212]

@@Bravo21Niner 700% loss rate lol

[@kireta21]

IIRC author of "Death Traps" never served on Shermans, saw them in battle, or even on deployment. Or any tank for that matter. His only contact with tanks was clearing wrecks before they're sent to scrapyard.

[@ludaMerlin69]

@@kireta21 cleaning out a wrecked tank might skew ones perspective of course...

[@AuGrrr]

Sherman: 3% mortality rate. People: Death trap Sherman: What else do you want from me?

[@MorganArthurMorgan]

You just typed 3% survival rate either you just used wrong word kinda cuse mortality is state of beeing alive but not immortal i think? Idk maybe im in shit

[@AuGrrr]

@@MorganArthurMorgan mortality is being a subject of death.

[@MorganArthurMorgan]

@@AuGrrr oh okay thanks fot answer!

[@imatreebelieveme6094]

I mean I guess the qualifier is "Death trap if you see certain types of combat" which probably came about because when shermans actually entered the war Germany hat shittons of guns that could frontally penetrate the sherman, so if you happened upon any of those you were just kinda dead. Also that might contribute to the "zippo" meme because while American tanks deployed with plain armor piercing ammo that wouldn't produce enough heat for a cookoff normally, German guns at the time basically all at least had APHE available where the HE part would be far more likely to cause a cookoff. Especially since the Sherman frontal armor generally didn't require APCBC to penetrate with both the the 8.8 AT and tank gun.

[@AuGrrr]

@@imatreebelieveme6094 even then it was a 3% mortality rate because they used it in an effective manner. Tactics are just as important as your equipment. If you have an rpg or any vehicle destroying device you are not going to be sent to combat troops you are gonna fight vehicles

[@Szalami]

"Because when it ran into an ambush it didn't magically deflect the shells and throw them back at the enemies who fired them." Wait an secs, that's not how it happened in Fury!

[@BoogalooBoy]

Aint that minecraft with ghast?

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

That sounds to stupid, did people actually think such things?

[@fulcrum2951]

@@alejandroelluxray5298 yes, people (especially those that didn't researched into the shit) have that mindset

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

@@fulcrum2951 Holy crap, what a bunch of balloney

[@thenotflatearth2714]

“Johnny, we’ve driven all the way from Normandy to Rhineland and the tank didn’t break down!” “Hans, we’ve driven all the way from production line to the front gate of factory und ze transmission did not break down!”

[@teodorogerald]

The NotFlat Earth *Allied bombers flying over head*

[@benb2312]

"Comrade, weve driven off the production line to the gate and only 40 T-34s broke down"

[@XxCheese69xX]

I see you haven't the tragedy of Darth Panther the terrible

[@anarchyandempires5452]

300 kilometers.....I wonder if someone got shot for that oopsy.

[@Mikalent]

Comrade, in recognition of driving 1,000 kilometer, you are rewarded with brand new soviet tank! Just as uncomfortable as last one, but with sh*tier wields!

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Very succinctly put. I approve. (The locknut was on an M18)

[@Damo2690]

Oh great chieften of the puddin race!

[@scrumptious_cake]

Of course you would, it's basically "Why the Sherman was what is was" cut down into a quick ~10 min video :P

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Damo, I'm nae haggis!

[@mtf_nine_tailed_fox385]

The One and Only legend has arrived

[@killergram2197]

The man himself has spoken

[@hubertblastinoff9001]

What's better than 1000 broken down tanks of 50 different designs? 20 000 working tanks of one design.

[@CTInaBanana]

That's the funny thing about American engineering and equipment, If we replace something we'll make at least 900 versions of it until at least 30-50 years later where we replace it and do the same. Unless it's aircraft, aircraft by American lifespan is 20-50 year's because apparently we don't like making something new or we do and then call it a failure and cancel it or actually use It.

[@spectralassassin6030]

@@CTInaBanana I mean if it ain't broke don't fix it.

[@dd-579fletcherwillyd.9]

Well, if there are 3k tanks damaged and 2k dead yet meaty tanks, cannibalize parts from the 2k dead to repair the 3k, amirite?

[@CTInaBanana]

@@dd-579fletcherwillyd.9 Reduce, reuse, recycle And Repair I guess?

[@OffGridInvestor]

@@CTInaBanana the American system.... it replaces thing when they "60% more effective than the existing one". And that's only after RIGOROUS tests. Here in Australia, we replace it with something someone else designed after our stuff is 35 years old. We replace civil infrastructure far faster than the USA does. You'll see when you see our bridges. NOTHING in the civilian world gets as old as the US would let it get, before it's smashed and replaced with a new one.

[@Taylor-mn9fv]

REAL BIAS HOURS WHO UP???

[@trivialslope]

*british bias noises*

[@pie7350]

*russian bias noises*

[@b47jacobs78]

Bruh your shit says 3 days ago u posted this comment when this video came out today

[@durandol]

@@pie7350 *Russian blyat noises*

[@legovader11]

@@b47jacobs78 Pateron Bro. Get in or Quiet you Pleb.

[@risu6894]

*TO SHOW YOU THE POWER OF THE US ECONOMY, I STARTED A WORLDWIDE ECONOMIC CRISIS, AND FIXED IT WITH THE US ECONOMY* oh yeah and War Thunder is removing the Maus send help

[@alexparker4244]

*I SAWED THIS DOW IN HALF*

[@NameTheUnnamed12]

No way they will remove the maus

[@m1sz3lpl24]

Dont panic, if you have it or u are researching it you get to keep it

[@adalsev8518]

Ah yes, the Gayjoob big think. _If you don't know how to balance it, just remove it!_ and _We're removing these german vehicles because they were never in full production, but keep these Soviet vehicles that never made it past blueprints in the game!_

[@m1sz3lpl24]

Oh god this again. I dont support the decision but come on. All the soviet tanks ingame were actualy made. The only expection is kv220, irl it was produced, but it was not outfitted with F-39 cannon before project was scrapped. But hey, its an event vechicle, and if you feel germans are suffering remember that E-100 is ingame. In the meantime panther II is a mish mash of 3 diffrent projects and coelian and Tiger 105 never existed outside plans. Btw gaijoob said these things will be replaced at some point back when tanks were just implemented.

[@LordDarthHarry]

The real meme about US R&D is the designation system system. "A soldier armed with an M3, is riding on the back of an M3 which is being escorted by an M3 while an M3 is scouting ahead of the column"

[@noahyang9362]

M3......... -ception?

[@kylebrady969]

Grease gun, Half-track, Lee, Stuart. Gotta love it.

[@jessb91106]

Dont forget the M3 fighting knife

[@nahuelleandroarroyo]

God i hate american designations so much, M4>M26>M46(47?)>M60>>>>M1

[@zekedia2223]

You hate the American designations? Then try the Japanese system! Don’t like your type 97 AT? Its old and outdated, being from the 30s? Then get the brand new Type 1!

[@Sjelton]

I love how the Sherman had a 3% crew death rate and is called a death trap, while the t-34 with a 15% crew survival rate is called a robust, reliable war winner.

[@bloodysimile4893]

One on western front with usa, Britain. The other is eastern front with USSR.

[@anaxagoras2930]

@@bloodysimile4893 Dude the theatre doesn’t really matter, a flaming 40 tonne wreck in Ukraine is the same as a flaming 40 tonne wreck in Southern France lol

[@lunseren]

Everyone needs to know this

[@bugholegaming]

Gross misrepresentation of data

[@GayFurryFromROA]

I know i'm late but it would be interesting to know what crew survival rate of land lease Shermans was in Red Army. I think it would show real survivability of sherman in extreme conditions

[@patchmoulton5438]

Ive never heard the Great Depression referred to as "the Big Sad" but Im gonna use that from now on

[@SentryWill]

World War II was really called "The Hitler Invasion"

[@LAHFaust]

Check out Bill Wurtz for more history memes.

[@Wipeoutz]

First day on the internet??

[@boerne_ben]

Something else that I think should be added was that the term "Ronson" was a term used after the war. And even still, the Sherman had a very small chance of it catching fire compared to the German and ESPECIALLY the Russian tanks. It was only called the ronson cause after the war American tankers complained how weak their tanks were against tanks such as the tiger and the king tiger.

[@Significantpower]

Exactly. And the Tigers' main threat, especially to the Americans (most of the Tigers on the Western front were encountered by Commonwealth or Polish forces IIRC) was mental. They heard about these invincible killer tanks, and so Allied troops would call out "TIGER!!" whenever one of their own vehicles was destroyed... even when it was likely that the culprit was a Panzer III, IV, one of the StuGs, or even a towed AT gun.

[@Padre619]

*posted 3 days ago*

[@Joesolo13]

It's ironic given in a lot of the tanks they were jealous of, they wouldn't have survived *to* complain

[@boerne_ben]

@@Padre619 Subscribe to the patreon for early access to videos you pleb

[@boerne_ben]

@@Significantpower yeah, the podcast "Two Tankers and A Cat" went into detail about that, it's pretty interesting if you haven't listened to it yet.

[@averyuncreativeperson1573]

Sherman: *"Death trap"* Panzer: *Laughs in broken transmission*

[@british-sama7007]

Laughs in hetzer

[@ethanquarles9811]

Jagpanzer 38t: laughs in poor crew ergonomics.

[@liamkerr7183]

T34: quietly leaves

[@ClingyCrab]

@Liam Kerr Tiger: tries to leave but can’t because of failed transmission

[@anthuan2028]

Mein gott, Kertz ze transmission broke

[@Dagreatdudeman]

The M4 "Deathtrap" also had the highest crew survival rate of any tank in the war.

[@frenchsoldier8485]

2nd actually, highest belongs to the Churchill

[@unnoticed4571]

@@frenchsoldier8485 That's understandable, considering the Churchill's heavy armor

[@frenchsoldier8485]

@@unnoticed4571 And the fact that the crew didn't have to leave the tank for tea

[@unnoticed4571]

@@frenchsoldier8485 That too. Convenience at its finest

[@frenchsoldier8485]

@@unnoticed4571 Quite

[@justastrider3252]

"The right tank, for the wrong war" Panther: Yeah that make sen- *drive sprocket disintegrates* Panther: Sh*t

[@lukavidakovic2385]

HAHAGAHA i lafed thank

[@Fish-kz8xw]

Dead Sherman sitting in the distance: karma strikes back

[@comandercarnis]

Oh god this got a good laugh out of me

[@dereenaldoambun9158]

Pacific Theatre Sherman: Finally the right war!

[@Eddie3105]

Panther: Aw **** here we go again

[@iainhansen1047]

“A minor stock market incident”

[@Bobcat_X]

Aka the Big Sad

[@nurisianulkki]

It will look like a "minor stock market incident" once the current bubble bursts

[@barneystorer1092]

The enormous grump

[@reastmanable]

FDR haunts my dreams. I can not escape him. He may not be able to walk, but he catches up to me easily, and in the most uncommon of places.

[@somuchtocook9159]

Oh I think you’re speaking of my dad , he’s a little more dangerous because he’s fat though

[@deason2365]

@@faisalaldan3420 😂😂😂

[@ghazghkullthraka9714]

He’s hiding in your toilet

[@xarvis9047]

Wheels are faster than legs on flat terrain. Go up some stairs

[@BeondTheKDGaming]

"Why didn't the Americans send in M4s faster?" It's the blue stuff in between America and Europe.

[@rbgerald2469]

The Pond

[@bigchungus4349]

“The U.S economy was so big that it could sick their economy on their economy to fix their economy” *Roosevelt intensifies*

[@theplanetmercury7487]

what does this even mean like I don't get it

[@theimperfectgod7140]

**Laughs in bass boosted**

[@thomaskole9881]

@@theplanetmercury7487 When Roosevelt was elected president, he started pumping government funds into the economy like crazy, which was a stark contrast from Hoover's "it'll fix itself eventually" approach that wasn't well received by the public.

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

@@theplanetmercury7487 Basically that the US leveraged their manufacturing infrastructure to pull itself out of the Great Depression, which allowed them to supply the Allies, which fed back into pulling up the economy even more. ... Or I think that's what it means. If someone who's studied the US economy during this period in depth could contribute to this discussion, I'd appreciate it.

[@AmericanImperialMenswear]

@@eldorados_lost_searcher ehhhh sort of. The New Deal was unable to prevent a major recession in 1937 that caused Republican gains in Congress in the 1938 election. The New Deal was blunted after that. Even Keynes thought that the New Deal was fairly ineffective. "It is, it seems, politically impossible for a capitalistic democracy to organize expenditure on the scale necessary to make the grand experiments which would prove my case - except in war conditions." Only war production in 1941 brought the Depression to a close.

[@mtf_nine_tailed_fox385]

"5 shermans 1 tiger" *Plays P hub opening theme*

[@hahabrown6596]

@@fast_mustang9287 just wait till the chaos's beat his ass

[@55....]

The tiger got 5 dicks

[@elitapjohnson]

Nah Russia America and Britain around Germany

[@KoljaGamer]

5 75mm vs one 88mm long shlong

[@SpecterCat_]

@@fast_mustang9287 nah dude, he should be at site [REDACTED]

[@sjoak4084]

He...he's still alive. More alive than a Ferdinand's engine after going up a hill anyway.

[@itsanschlusstime5376]

Well this is awkward my guy

[@teodorogerald]

Its Anschluss Time yep

[@sjoak4084]

@@itsanschlusstime5376 Wanna invade Australia?

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

Stupid giant piece of junk (Im refering to the Ferdinand)

[@TheSecondVersion]

The Ferdinand was an extremely deadly vehicle in combat, provided that you could trick your enemies into driving it

[@spacemanjoe7074]

It’s fascinating to learn about these. My grandpa drove a Sherman in France. Two actually: one got destroyed in battle. I guess the point about them being easy to exit gives the story good context lol

[@venpirethevampire]

Good ole' Shermy saving crew lives

[@ExUSSailor]

The Sherman did everything asked of it, in every theater of war, from the volcanic islands of the South Pacific, to the frozen steppes of Russia, and, did it reliably, and, well. Then, the Sherman 76 was much preferred by crews over the Pershing in Korea, because, the narrower width, and, lighter weight were better in the mountainous terrain. Plus, the 76 was more than enough to handle the T-34s of theNorth Koreans.

[@spygineer1076]

Plus, the American crews didn't really trust the new tanks like the Pershing, reason why they preferred to keep using the sherman

[@elpatrico2562]

Also, the Pershing was pretty unreliable and they were underpowered, since they had the same engine as a Sherman for a heavier tank.

[@Averagedude2024]

@@elpatrico2562 M46 was the preferred tank for Korea tho

[@elpatrico2562]

@@Averagedude2024 Yeah, I just wanted to compare the Pershing to the Sherman.

[@daltongebele491]

Ok I understand what your saying but the Pershing had the best Kdr of all American tanks. The Pershing had troubles in the mountains but was crazy overkill for the T-34s.

[@xel_los]

“Sick their economy on their economy to fix their economy” made me bust up laughing 😂 best joke I’ve heard all day

[@mr.anemoia924]

Right? Lol, I even replayed it a few times

[@xel_los]

Synth Solutions lol same m8

[@matthewegan5281]

it's the image of FDR going Super President 32 that really sold that shit for me.

[@failureOnSnow]

Okay. I was reading comments while the video was going and ended up reading this comment in sync with the video and just died laughing.

[@queuedjar4578]

The US economy wasn't fixed until the government left it alone well after world war 2 ended, and the great depression was worsened by government efforts to "fix" it though. So I think it's more that the US somehow survived FDR's socialist tirades which grants it some credit (and we use survive as a loose term since the negative impacts of his financial policy are still fucking things up today).

[@zagboygamez5930]

Yo, you should make a video about the "Vietnam War Tank Meme". Or just a video about Vietnam Era armored doctrine in general.

[@imafreak123bob]

I would be keen to see this

[@mjertovjek7283]

You mean Sheridan?

[@Americansigma8888]

Who needs armor when you’re just gonna get “one shotted anyway”

[@anarchyandempires5452]

Sheridan, because dropping a tank off the back of an airplane is definitely better than dropping off paratroopers with recoiless rifles and ATGMs.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

@@Americansigma8888 thats the leo 1.

[@TheoneandonlyBotmans]

Sherman: shoots the back of a tiger's turret Tiger's driver: HOW IN THE FRICK DID THE TRANSMISSION BREAK.

[@austinteal3645]

That's "German engineering" right there XD

[@kristijanmedved6066]

Haans just turn the turret and slap it forget the damage we will fix the paint

[@wireworks4252]

That Tiger just got Gaijin'ed

[@spongmongler6760]

@@wireworks4252 weeb!

[@1pcfred]

Tiger tank commander: I can knock out 20 Shermans before lunch 50 Sherman tanks show up.

[@Zurgo-fl1kx]

SHERMAN GANG

[@janin6473]

Haz hows our transmission?

[@kenneth1566]

Jones, we got the tiger!! *Looks at the 49 burning shermans*

[@HappiKarafuru]

*out of nowhere, sherman firefly and easy eight pop out* guess what!? It 1945!

[@potatosinnato1767]

@@HappiKarafuru lol easy is my fav

[@matthewlee8667]

"Cult of the Machine Gun" sounds like the name of an epic heavy metal ballad about war

[@_draco_7300]

Not enough Dakka!

[@JustMikuMiku]

“Sherman the right tank for the wrong war” Tiger: *transmission breaks* *fire happens*

[@raptorcell6633]

Panther: *Drive Wheels shatter*

[@rebelgaming1.5.14]

Ferdinand: Literally everything breaks

[@JustMikuMiku]

@__ But the Henschel design was also subjected to engine fire wasn't it? Just less so

[@Max-lf3tx]

For that guy to say the sherman was the right tank for wrong war is amazingly ignorant. I'm flabbergasted.

[@alessiom3859]

@@JustMikuMiku the henschel was just a normal tank, the tiger p and könig both had “minor“ problems, the tiger p could have engine problems on its own, and the königstiger was very hard to repair because of a high technlonogy, meaning: if you break your king tiger you don't have 10-20 hours to repair so you put autodestruction charge on and escape

[@raventern]

“Those Shermans are so bad, I could kill 10 in a-“ *”Hans ze transmission broke”* “...”

[@invadegreece9281]

*”Scheiße”*

[@ravenouself4181]

@@invadegreece9281 [5 Shermans cross the ridgline] "Oh, we are ok, we wi..." *Sherman Firefly crosses the ridgeline*

[@islaymassive1530]

I love how the History Channel Talks about shermans and Shows a m10 gmc

[@BenjoKazooie64]

Sherman chassis

[@davidhughes2222]

Benjo Kazooie more like it’s based on an m4 chassis not a true m4

[@raf74hawk12]

I love finding stuff like that. Like pacific aerial combat footage in a segment about 109s.

[@22steve5150]

The people who run Discovery Network need to be burned at the stake. They've ruined every single educational cable channel. God I miss what the History channel WAS 20 years ago. Hell, I miss what it was 10 years ago.

[@Chopstorm.]

@@22steve5150 I'm pretty sure the program he showed at the start is nearly 20 years old. History Channel has always been bad, we just didn't know better then.

[@Hellriders1]

That song in background... Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, because of you I have to replay it now. Thanks.

[@MrMcKane]

Best Medal of Honor track is Operation Market Garden from MOH Frontline

[@eziogreggioquattrever8142]

Best ww2 games ever My favorite mission: Arnhem knights

[@matthewsallee8838]

There are still servers up if you feel the urge

[@aquateenchris]

Pacific Assault/Rising Sun had dope main themes

[@jamesharris4695]

Man I loved the hell out of vanguard and European assault

[@panzerschiff9805]

4:52. Sun Tzu said that! AND I'D SAY HE KNOWS A LITTLE MORE ABOUT FIGHTING THEN YOU DO PAL' BECAUSE HE INVENTED IT! AND THEN HE PERFECTED IT SO THAT NO LIVING MAN COULD BEST HIM IN THE RING OF HONOUR!

[@lowcalibremine3004]

i like your thinking

[@frogchip6484]

I like the tf2 reference, wasn't thinking about that line tbh

[@aceofthesky1247]

you spelled Tzu wrong. I cant remember if its Tsu or Tzu, but its one of the two.

[@panzerschiff9805]

@@aceofthesky1247 Fixed it....I think.

[@Frixworks]

@@panzerschiff9805 I'm pretty sure it's ring of honour, and not rank of honour...

[@davidthorp01]

I’m actually writing a paper on cost benefit analysis surrounding the M4 Sherman and the M2 Stuart. Essentially, I’m running cost per unit, then estimating our net loss vs net investment. From what I’m seeing so far, it’s a fucking brilliant design, with production being so damn good (what with the expense for metal per unit) that with its absurdly high survival rate being what it was; it deserves to be recognized for its quality. Yes; it wasn’t perfect against big cats, but it wasn’t supposed to fight em one on one anyway. You move as a unit, and with support; then you kill the big mean kitty cat, without loosing all your crews, if you lose a tank that’s fine. There are 50 to 60 in the depot a few miles back where you can go back, refit, and catch up with your unit/grab a new guy in case you lost someone. As opposed to losing a Tiger, or other big cats, which were expensive and borderline irreplaceable in some places. Big cats are astounding in their own way, and deserve some respect; but so does the Sherman.

[@Enterprise6126]

And how easy it was to repair a sherman and not spend the money to send it back to the factory like the germans often did

[@buddermonger2000]

Honestly it's a similar philosophy to the soviets in which you had a design which could be produced in extreme numbers and could be repaired in the field. The only real difference was that the soviets could afford to have it last a certain period of time, but the Americans couldn't. However that was largely a compromise anyway and the Americans could simply take on that added cost and still pump out tanks in the thousands. And it's why I really want to see a war of 1945 Soviet vs American tanks because they both went virtually the same philosophy in terms of tank doctrine.

[@Enterprise6126]

@@buddermonger2000 ya the t 34 is loosing that The war built t 34 had many many cut backs Watch the video from lazerpig on the t 34 On paper the t 34 is absolutely amazing but in production it was held back by terrible production practices

[@michaelusswisconsin6002]

You speak the truth

[@RaeSyngKane]

It always cracks me up when people talks about “the Sherman was terrible, my grandpa GI joe had to bail out of six Sherman’s.” It’s like, yeah but that means he served the equivalent of seven crewmen of many other tanks. So many of the American tank crews had survived so many tank losses. One of the things that’s been the focus now is: don’t focus on the tank, focus on the crew. The crew is much more valuable than just the tank. A good crew can compensate for an outmatched tank, but a good tank can’t do much for an outmatched crew. See Israel vs Jordan in the six-day war.

[@andrewtaylor940]

Put that way the Sherman's were designed and operated in a way very very similar to the early Navy Fighters. The F4F Wildcat and F6F Hellcat. They weren't the fastest or the flashiest. But they were reliable, packed a decent punch within their flight envelope, could take a massive pounding and still get their pilot to safety to fly another plane tomorrow. In fact Navy aircraft doctrine quickly became "planes are disposable, flight crews are not."

[@DeFens1993]

great argument 👍👍

[@jellyfishwithwifi6870]

Very well said 👍

[@hectorandres2921]

Exactly mate!! A tank is useless if it doesn't have a crew!! AND AN EXPERIMENTED CREW CAN MAKE A MOVING CANNON INTO A FEARSOME DESTROYER!!

[@geckozattack]

Very true. I had a grandpa in the Korean war and he repaired tanks.

[@jamieobree1181]

"Sic the economy on the economy to fix the economy." - Franklin Roosevelt was an absolute legend.

[@ShortArmOfGod]

9066

[@Z28KR]

FDR red eyes makes me laugh every time.

[@jeltje50]

@@ShortArmOfGod putting Japanese people in internment camps like a bosssssss😏

[@TheBucketSkill]

@@jeltje50 you knooo itttt

[@Sniper5875]

i wish someone would clip the quote, i love listening to it, its such a meme

[@american_76-47]

A 100 Sherman's destroyed = worst tank in history A 1000 t-34 destroyed = greatest tank ever devised by mankind?

[@demolition4654]

Well maybe its because they fought since 1941 and didnt have trained crews at the beginning ? And nobody ever said that its the greatest tank in history. Unlike what I heard people ranting about how ,,perfect,, and ,,flawless,, sherman is.

[@chadwick5080]

well if you talk first t-34 modification YES

[@projectzeromortals798]

T34 100 is best t34 until the crew dies because of the fucking turret.

[@st3gosaurus]

@@demolition4654 i have literally never seen anybody call the sherman flawless

[@AstropilotStudios]

@@demolition4654 No one has called the Sherman what you said. However, people will counter any argument that it was the worst tank. It was not the worst tank. It was the most appropriate.

[@Ocrilat]

Let's put it this way. We fight a battle. On one side you have every Tiger I ever built, vs. every Sherman ever built on the other. And let's be generous and let each Tiger kill 10 Shermans before being destroyed. At the end of the battle, you'd have zero Tigers and I'd have more than 36,000 Shermans. That's what a war of attrition is.

[@kriegscommissarmccraw4205]

It gets even worse with total and guerrilla war.

[@someretardontheinternet]

Some will say that's impossible but if you take into account of reliability issues even on both sides you'll realize this is quite accurate

[@ravenouself4181]

The T-34: Are You challenging my numbers, mortal? T-54/55: *sips vodka from "most produced tank of all time" flask*

[@Ocrilat]

@@ravenouself4181 LOL!

[@ravenouself4181]

@@Ocrilat Safe to say, only the French autoloaders stand a chance :P

[@grippercrapper]

“75 mm freedom launcher” The lesson here? Stay out of the way of freedom.

[@looinrims]

grippercrapper freedom is an intrinsic instinct for humans, freedom will consume humanity regardless of those who dare try to contain it, like the Americans during wars, russia, China, Germany, no one can stop freedom, only slow it

[@looinrims]

@A Person good question the fuck was I saying? Deleted reply maybe?

[@ryanrigley2558]

Hey uuuuuh, the sturmtiger (german tank) had a 380 mm gun

[@ryanrigley2558]

@Bruce Washington buddy I think your deaf

[@ryanrigley2558]

@Bruce Washington no, I legitimately think you're deaf. You've been listening to Sherman's fire for the last 3 hours and I dont think thats good for the ears, especially when you stand right next to them.

[@esthera3923]

When you get requests for ads from both WoT and War Thunder

[@Bruh-pt4fo]

*CAPITALISM INTENSIFIES*

[@herewegoagain9945]

*Stonks*

[@flatlad]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[@lorenzomendoza473]

If you want realistic, play War Thunder. If you want easy to play, play World of Tanks

[@herewegoagain9945]

@@lorenzomendoza473 if you want to save your brain cells, don't play both)

[@Spaceman404.]

>Ends of being the most survivable, most upgradable, and most reliable and repairable tank of the war. "Shermans are death traps"

[@ryanthompson525]

Aren't German tanks more upgradeable? Because they were designed to be more upgradeable whereas allied tanks forgot to incorporate that and just built new chassis to fit new guns and shit

[@chaosXP3RT]

@@ryanthompson525 If you mean "the Germans just welded shit together and waited to see if worked", then yeah, German tanks were more upgradable. But it also crippled their production and logistics

[@MistahFox]

@@ryanthompson525 The german tanks were less upgradable. The Panzer4 H, the final major variant added numerous changes such as added armor and side skirts to keep up with Sherman's and Russian AT rifles, but it maxed out the suspension and nothing more could be added without losing the Panzer 4s good reliability. The germans had to make entirely new tanks to add heavy guns and armor. The sherman jumbo varient turned a normal sherman into a heavy tank, with similar armor to the tiger, sometimes even having the 76 gun, and the sherman chassis was still reliable and not entirely maxed out. So they were more upgradable.

[@ryanthompson525]

@@MistahFox the panther turret was upgraded? To be one of the best guns of the war. swear all the panzer variants had room to change the guns and add armour? I would argue allied upgradability started after ww2

[@alexlalex5223]

Oh my gosh, stoopid yank detected with his "crew survivability" on a useless tanks

[@riccardo9234]

Some random writer: The Sherman is a death trap. Me: *Laughs in Italian L3 Tank*

[@The_Mad_Regent]

What was wrong with them?

[@zekenotech]

*bumps small rock* MAMA MIA THE WHOLE TANK IS A-BURNING

[@michaelusswisconsin6002]

Laughs in T-34-85 I’m in danger

[@theapexdragon5010]

@@The_Mad_Regent the L3 was one of the worst tanks in history.

[@russman3787]

@@theapexdragon5010 That's because it isn't a tank but they tried to use it as one. It's like sending a mobile machine gun nest against real tanks.

[@AragornRespecter]

Should have been Chinese tanks because that’s what we’re going to be seeing a lot of in Hong Kong

[@Padre619]

Heh heh... Heh *cries*

[@asiangrandma4746]

...........

[@Matthew_Fundal]

Damn

[@SethlingtonStudiosCo2003]

*Chuckles* my country's former colony is in danger. :-D

[@woopa_koopa4224]

well not if us brits get it back

[@Quackerilla]

>cult of the machine gun ALL OOGA BOOGA, DAKKA TRAKKA, PAPER SAY, CHUM CHUM

[@soupenjoyer6173]

etR WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!! WE NEAD MOAR DAKKA YA GROTS

[@yosefyonin6824]

pretty sure this still needs more dakka….

[@Irishcrossing]

>cult of the machine gun Dear machine gun spirit, let your balistics spray unto the traitors, the xenon and the heretic for the glory of the Omnisiah!

[@joeymobb8438]

@@Irishcrossing Death to the alien, the mutant, the heretic.

[@bigchungus4349]

Potential History was sponsored by World Of Tanks This enraged War Thunder who punished him severely

[@gies1714]

@Sebastian Gerner Berthou H9C Skovvang only from the tech tree tho

[@universal1014]

@Sebastian Gerner Berthou H9C Skovvang tf are they removing them for

[@Optimaloptimus]

Avery Hunt They aren’t removing the Maus no clue where he got that shit from. But everything else is because they were more paper tanks than real vehicles. Because of how much guess work gaijin put into them it is not fair that the Germans get something with made up stats. So they’re removing em.

[@panzerschiff9805]

I am now done after they removed one of the most Iconic German tank (and 3 really good tanks that are removed for "muh historical accuracy" even tho it's a game)

[@gies1714]

@@universal1014 because they were never made, and gaijn doesn't want that. They are removing the maus because it can't be balanced, if you downtier it, it's way to strong, and at 7.7 it kinda gets raped by HEAT, APFSDS and ATGMs.

[@k-874]

Sherman: "They call me a deathtrap despite having the highest survivability rate?" Churchill: "Second, actually..." T-34: "You comrades have crew survivability?" B-17: "You guys can survive combat missions?" Lancaster: "Oh you sweet little kid" U-Boat: "You guys are so innocent!" Liberty Ship: "Like you folks know what death is" Kamikaze: "Suicide is baddass!" Ferdinand: *(hits speed bump and catches fire)* Panzer IV: "Well, there he goes again" Tiger 2: "Why did we even try making that failed science project work?" Panzer III: "Oh shut up you heap of trash like you were any better!"

[@looinrims]

Japanese Armor Corps: You guys have people?!

[@k-874]

@@bomk4249 The crew of the sherman tank can litteraly just hop out since they have hatches just on top on their head, except the gunner and loader(until they added the loader's hatch) I guess...

[@dylandarnell3657]

@@k-874 _Spring-loaded_ hatches. Can't really call it a "trap" if it's that easy to get out of.

[@redalertiscool5172]

The T-34 was basicaly one of the best tanks of the war becose why woud you throw a Stupid expesive gun on a tank that statiscticaly lives for like 6 months

[@eoghanhuber4048]

Yukari Akiyama Ratte : you guys got prototypes?

[@Commander_Keel]

"The US economy was the biggest in the world, so big that they could sic their economy on their economy to fix their economy." My sides went higher than a V2

[@Koneic]

Great depression *cough cough*

[@todo9633]

@@Koneic Whoosh

[@dorkmax7073]

"What's that? 'Sherman bad'? I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of the Battle of my Bulge"

[@vavra222]

"notices bulge" "OwO whats this?"

[@dorkmax7073]

@@vavra222 the big dick that fucks Germany is what it is

[@theortheo2401]

@@dorkmax7073 Oh you mean the Red Army ?

[@mulmusfistus4128]

@@dorkmax7073 laughs in 3 muricans yeetet for every german

[@dorkmax7073]

@@mulmusfistus4128 That's a standard Offensive vs. Defensive casualty ratio

[@overipecanine1485]

I love how much you use the original "Medal of Honor" theme.

[@Dough_Dough4]

This is the comment I've been looking for. Thank you for the info.

[@naruvsichi50]

MOHAA what a game

[@victoriacyunczyk]

*Tiger gets knocked out* German crew: We're infantry now *Sherman gets knocked out* American crew 1 day later: Attempt 2. EDIT: Thanks for the 2K likes. Didn't expect it

[@somuchtocook9159]

America: *laughs in machine guns * oh you’ve become infantry, now you’re bullet sponges

[@whatisausername99]

*ABSORB THE BULLETS*

[@FnLl523]

@@whatisausername99 ABSORB THE BULLETS

[@Julianna.Domina]

@@FnLl523 ABSORB THE BULLETS

[@ericamborsky3230]

@@Julianna.Domina ABSORB THE BULLETS

[@badboi8245]

You see comrade, shermans dont work because of the ammount of capitalsm in them. But our stalinium T34 on the other side *_just works_*

[@josefstalin541]

And i agree comrade

[@chronovac]

Comrade Howard?

[@n0kt0h45]

*tank starts clipping through the ground*

[@onyxdragon1179]

*T-34 next to them blows up*

[@frenchsoldier8485]

@Adolf Hitler Nyet, a thousand

[@carlsbad_np6986]

"The Sherman was a death trap!" "No! It was the best tank of the war" "The M3 Lee is shit" "Yes"

[@the_tactician9858]

It was shit, but at least it was shit that momentarily did an adequate job killing Germans. In that regard it was better than the Maus. Then again...

[@Sigismundssword]

I loved the lee until I saw one in person and was like "God damn that thing is big"

[@justonemori]

if you think that was shit you should read about the guy it's named after.

[@dapperbunch5029]

@@justonemori 2nd best general in the civil war? Dude wtf are you smoking? He's not on the right side, sure. But wut?

[@clark3027]

Does that not also matter? I mean justonemori was talking about the person lol. They were a good general that’s why it’s named after him but he was also a traitor.

[@GeneralJackRipper]

_"The Sherman is a death trap."_ "What? Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of all this WINNING!"

[@Naramsit]

That moment when you realize that a youtuber and unrealistic game researcher did more research and fact finding than the crew at history channel

[@rustym.shackelford5546]

And now the History Channel is now the "Ancient Aliens" Cult Channel

[@OffGridInvestor]

Yeah..... A bit like some of these "agricultural scientists" that are paid by the government. Some of these things they write about weeds are just CUT AND PASTE from Wikipedia I swear. Stupid high wages to cut and paste shit. I have been dealing with a pest bush for a few years to find most of the stuff on government websites is totally BS. "Experts".....

[@owlwaifu4949]

Here is my thing about Sherman tanks that many people dont realise. Specialization kills Basicly the more things that are different means the more parts and that can easily kill Which is why having fewer variaty is better than having too much

[@Sir_Budginton]

It does depend on industry and how quickly things get destroyed. Modern armies have very specialised equipment and vehicles, but because most almost never get destroyed by enemies they can afford to make them. Of course during something like WW2, having less specialisation is generally better, unless you constantly encounter something that needs a specialised vehicle to defeat.

[@Donnerbalken28]

On a strategic level, this is absolutely true.

[@Psytinker]

It does. And Sherman was never meant to take on other tanks. It was an infantry tank, released after two years in development hell, after all other countries realized infantry tanks are dumb. And the Germans have completed the KwK 40, so it was obsolete right out of the gate. And Americans were the only ones to deliberately (not Ad Hoc) design tank (destroyers) with open tops.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

@@Psytinker The British still had their crazy doctrine with infantry tanks during this time. The Japanese too iirc, though this was due to the obsolescence of their tank models driving the doctrine - and the lack of Chinese armor to make them change their doctrine.

[@Predator20357]

Psytinker I read a KZbin video called Myths about American tanks of ww2 and no, the 75mm gun was suppose to take on panzer 3 and 4s, there’s a reason why they didn’t up gun until much later as there’s no point in using a bigger gun when a small gun can do the same thing, killing tanks

[@Flopsos]

Maybe a french tank meme video?

[@weik-2936]

Ahhohohohohohohoho

[@Joshua_23]

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@JoshDerenburger]

A white flag isn't a tank

[@Joshua_23]

@@JoshDerenburger HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@manolisiatrou5537]

You mean a french armored retreat machine video?

[@sethfilginouski6159]

"sick their economy on their economy to fix their economy...... *Roosevelt intensifies* "

[@MosasaurCatcher]

**gay intensifies**

[@boobyqueen]

**stealing comment intensifies**

[@crocs4304]

*stealing comment infestifies*

[@Texan.Insomniac]

5:44

[@Wintersoap123]

seth filginouski N E W D E A. L

[@Andrew_Sword]

"the right tank for the wrong war." proceeds to win that war.

[@ucponce9010]

America-“Why is it when something goes wrong it’s always you three” The Three Idiots- UK,France,Germany

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Italy, Trailing Behind: "Hey! I'M an idiot, too! Why aren't WE an idiot like the OTHER European countries!? We can be JUST as stupid as THEY can! In fact, we're even MORE stupid! We're FIRST when it comes to stupid! WE'LL SHOW YOU ALL WHAT STUPID REALLY LOOKS LIKE!"

[@lach14n]

Uk and France: he started it

[@TheSecondVersion]

tfw we're nearing 2020, and it's now the UK starting shit, with Germany and France teaming up on damage control

[@ethanedwards422]

@@TheSecondVersion I hardly think that the UK backing out of a political and economic group will ever cause a war, if it does then something is very, very wrong with this world.

[@ChestOfDoom]

@TheDerpy Kitty What are you on about? nobody blackmailed the us

[@GoldRaven-oe4by]

Tiger tank: our armor is to strong for shermans Apcr: allow us to introduce ourselves

[@ethanquarles9811]

APCR: Here comes trouble White Phosphorus: Make it double

[@Yaveton]

APDS: Make it triple! (if it hit at range more than 200m)

[@ogalienman]

*angles armour* Ha! Take that!

[@ethanquarles9811]

White phosphorus would still burn the tank out.

[@ethanquarles9811]

Also don’t even get me started on the 76mm M4s.

[@KWyzel]

From a reliability standpoint it was probably the best tank of the war, it was rather average in all other areas but then again that was the point as you said its just an average joe battle tank made to get the job done, and it did.

[@Kylel0519]

Comrade Kommodore a jack of all trades is definitely a good choice in war

[@NoNoseProduction]

@@Kylel0519 yeah that f35

[@Kylel0519]

NoNoseProduction that’s the jet correct?

[@notlogical4016]

i would agree, and i would also say changing to different versions of a tank rather then going to a completely new tank is kind of wasting money if the old tanks did just fine, i dont think the germans should of changed thier tanks as much as they did and use their big cats in lesser numbers then they have, maybe just put a little more armor on the panzer 4 with a better engine and i think that couldve done better for them.

[@KWyzel]

@@notlogical4016 I agree, the German tank variants and types are... Staggering to say the least. Then again some of the designs were sound, like the STUG, Panzer III, Panzer IV, and Marder, and... the Panther TO A degree. The only issue with all of the German vehicles is that there is so many, plus many more variants/upgrades, and each one is so meticulously crafted; that spare parts let alone repairs are a nightmare. Had the Germans stuck to the base line Panzer III, IV, and STUG series I could see their tank army being much more manageable, tack on MAYBE a Panther or Tiger later down the line for good measure.

[@Joaosantos22114]

5:43 This was the quickest lesson about the "New deal" I ever had.

[@kyleplatter8954]

“Yo dawg, I heard you like your economy so we used our economy on our economy to fix our economy” -FDR

[@kyleplatter8954]

Thanos: I used the economy to fix the economy

[@AryaWibu]

Sherman: "I'm a death trap" T-34: "Hold my Vodka"

[@hellhedgehog2560]

M3Lee: *laughs in 7-brothers-coffin*

[@signolias100]

Crusader tank: sits in the corner crying with a broken transmission and being shot

[@zekedia2223]

Chi-Ha: *starts crying but gets obliterated by a 9mm*

[@alessiom3859]

Sherman: Commander: out of here, the tank is destroyed! Crew: escapes* Loader: i guess it's fine for me...

[@argonianvideo4439]

*Laughs in Bob Semple Tank*

[@Stormbladeee]

"The big sad", i think i spat out all of my food in laughter

[@bobbyjoe1111]

no, you didn't. shut the fuck up

[@zacquan8676]

@@bobbyjoe1111 that comment is 11 months ago

[@thejokestersquad3686]

@@bobbyjoe1111 who hurt you

[@Handlesarestoopid]

@@bobbyjoe1111 bro cool but literally we don't care. Like let him enjoy a joke you damm 4 yr old

[@dd-579fletcherwillyd.9]

@@bobbyjoe1111 so what? Trying to be old, child? This is why people can't have fun anymore. Someone's just gotta be "serious" and "look adult" just because they can't act like actual mature people

[@phillipgraham1422]

"So big in fact that they could sick their economy on their economy to fix their economy" STONKS

[@Chase-ts7gu]

The Sherman also had a very high survival rate compared to contemporary tanks, and survivorship bias has probably played a big role in people thinking it was bad. More soldiers survive to say what happened to them, more people think it was a death trap.

[@26th_Primarch]

Cult of the machine gun? You need to be taught about the importance of Dakka my friend!

[@chairmeme6231]

No its the machine god or nothing

[@Sebomai-b8i]

MORE DAKKA!!!!

[@royalcomputer3780]

@@Sebomai-b8i *MORE DAKKA*

[@DakkaDakka12]

Did Someone say Dakka?

[@mcsquizzy440]

DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!!

[@hypernova3527]

People: M4's are coffins on tracks Israel: "Destroys a bunch of T-55s"

[@RaeSyngKane]

HYPERNOVA3 they also destroyed M46’s and M48’s with un-upgraded Shermans. Because experienced tank crews are actually worth much more than their tanks. Dmitriy Loza would certainly agree.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

people: the pershing was way better then the sherman *german upgunned 1930s tank (nashhorn) knocks it out*

[@ItsRawdraft2]

The Arab tank crews were poorly trained tho

[@pakitxn]

Israel is an illegitimate state.

[@alex-ragnarson3482]

Well, those Israeli Sherman were upgraded as hell. New engines, HVSS suspension, French 105mm gun or long 75mm gun, with the COTAC firing system...

[@Duck-ou3qy]

Dude this Is so wrong. Everybody knows the Bob Semple was a far superior design

[@kevinspaceyVEVO]

I agree, you speak the truth.

[@justastrider3252]

I was about to throw down

[@moonmanjam9897]

Tiger 1 shaking profusely at the sight of the legendary bob semple tank

[@GIDonut]

Not a single one was lost in combat!

[@midnightcamaro2928]

The Bob sample is gay

[@OceanHedgehog]

"Amateurs study tactics. Armchair generals study strategy. Professionals study logistics." This sums up why Wehraboos love to talk down non-German tanks - they ignore the operational realities that brought the tanks to the field.

[@jameshope7933]

I was a bit ofa wehraboo when I was very young and still comparing tanks ,cars, aircraft like a beauty pageant ( easily won by the panther).

[@Aaronkbrown1125]

@Stale Bagelz OH GOD MY EYES! YOU HAVE KILLED MY EYES WITH YOUR GRAMMAR!

[@looinrims]

Wait, you mean this quote that ignores what actually happened in the war made by a US Marine general, a nation that unless fighting its neighbors which only happened once each thus having to cross an ocean to fight any conflict? Whereas countries in Europe have potential enemies all around them and thus operations and tactics were way more important, see France for proof? Fuck nuance amirite Ecs dee

[@OceanHedgehog]

@@looinrims This reads like a half digested idea spewed out into a sentence.

[@looinrims]

PresidentWordSalad your reply reads like someone who has no legitimate response and thus tries to discredit a statement by calling it stupid

[@dankoz6340]

Could always go through Cold War tank memes. I could see you having a lot of fun doing the t-55s. Just mention quantity or the variety made since would be an interesting fact finding mission.

[@evancoveney6268]

I'd love to hear some hot takes on the M60 Patton tank.

[@harrisonturner1716]

“We were inadequate” “DROP IT” BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

[@robertson-hall779]

What is that song I must know😂😂

[@admiralkieron9422]

I want to know

[@robertson-hall779]

Its called drop it 😂😂 boy I'm a dafty

[@Eddie3105]

The best shermans getting rekted montage I've ever seen

[@Validechos]

This is a bit late but something to add, the Sherman's size was planned as they needed to be able to fit on a liberty ship. So instead of making new ship for a new tank they built the tank with ship in mind. I'm always awe struck how much thought went into the planning and future proofing of the Sherman.

[@warrenkerkhoff]

I’ve watched this video more times than I can count, but laser eyes FDR still gets me every time

[@dominatorandwhocaresanyway9617]

Sherman was basically what modern infantry support vehicles are. (minus the major details)

[@colincampbell767]

Actually - when the M1 series tank was designed the Sherman was the example of what they wanted (with a bigger gun and more armor). And the same considerations applied: it had to be reliable and easily maintainable, and suited for movement on ship. And it also had to meet a specific price point - because Congress was not willing to pay more than $1 million for a tank. The result was the M1. The M1A1 was what the Army wanted but didn't think they could get Congress to pay for.

[@dominatorandwhocaresanyway9617]

@@colincampbell767 Well, the idea of modern armored vehicle (as i see it) is to be versitale (destroy enemy armor, supress infantry, pull a friendly vehicle out of the god-knows-what mud lake ec.) and sometimes be used as a platform ( like soviets did with tank hulls or US with the m113 hull which was also used as m163 vulcan SPAA)

[@colincampbell767]

@@dominatorandwhocaresanyway9617 Actually this is what General Abrams said when he threw out the proposals for a new design after the MBT-70 was cancelled. He served on Sherman's in Europe in WWII and he wanted a tank that performs like the Sherman did. This is from the book: 'King Of The Killing Zone' by Orr Kelly. This book describes how - and why - the M1 series was designed the way it is. BTW - I served on the M60A3, the M1IP, and the M1A1 - and was Master Gunner qualified on all three.

[@_Dogberry_]

The Sherman’s were liked so much that by the middle/end of the Korean War when much of the North Korean tank force was defeated, Pershing crews wanted Sherman’s due to the unreliability of the Pershing’s transmission and lack of maneuverability that the Sherman provided. Or at least, so I’m told.

[@22steve5150]

The engine was fine, it was the same Ford V8 engine as in the A3 Shermans that served in that war, it was the transmissions that had reliability problems in the mountain terrain. The issue with the engines was just being underpowered, it was the same 500hp engine in a 46 ton Pershing as was in the 35 ton Sherman. Again, not something that was a big deal in France or any other relatively flat terrain but in the hills and mountains of the Korean peninsula it was a problem.

[@jurajsintaj6644]

But like, most tanks were underpowered and every tank had transmision problems

[@_Dogberry_]

@@22steve5150 edited it, thanks bro 🤙

[@imperialcommissar6849]

“Quantity has a quality all its own” Joseph Stalin

[@randymagnum143]

"A single death is a tragedy....a million deaths are a statistic." The more I learn about this Stalin fella......I'm beginning to think he was a real jerk!

[@notlogical4016]

@@randymagnum143 ya know idk why but alot of people think that.

[@levvy3006]

@@randymagnum143 But nothing he said was wrong.

[@fulcrum2951]

I don't think Stalin has actually said that

[@bandit5747]

@@fulcrum2951 really?

[@grantdotjpg]

I really liked the Sherman. It's a good all rounder; plus it's cute with it's bubbly body.

[@JustMikuMiku]

History Channel: ha lol Sherman explode Ferdinands: yeah thats like so true yeahh.......

[@austinteal3645]

German worker: we did it Hanz we made it to the other end of the factory floor ;-; Tonk: ha ha me a goood bOoM!💥

[@tacocruz5090]

Ohhh boy you're still alive. Nothing gives me more joy than seeing you upload. Bless you papa PH

[@ryancanavan7434]

5:45 economy large enough to pull the economy out of depression is definitely stonks

[@trixus4768]

If there would be one WW2 tank that actually WAS a death trap, it would definitely be T-34, not Sherman... Not to mention the general crew comfort.

[@versamax6307]

the creator of the t-34 died because it had no heating

[@404cheeseburgernotfound5]

@@versamax6307wasn't the tank he drove a prototype?

[@versamax6307]

@@404cheeseburgernotfound5 A: the comment is a year old B: Maybe! Doesn't really matter if they didnt add heaters to the production tanks after the fact.

[@danielgarza1209]

"Muh Big Cats, amerimutt." *Laughes in 50 km breakdowns*

[@BoisegangGaming]

"HANZ!" "JA, JOHANN?" "ZE TRANSMISSION BROKE!"

[@danielgarza1209]

@@BoisegangGaming *Meanwhile, at Feldgendarmerie HQ* "Jurgen!" "Ja, Gunter?" "Ve got anozer attempt at suicide!" "A Mechanic again?" "Ja, Jurgen." "Zats ze fouth time zis hour!"

[@weik-2936]

@@BoisegangGaming AGAIN!? MEIN GOTT WHY'RE VE EVEN IN ZIS WAR? ZEY SAID ZAT IT VOULD VE VUNDABAR!

[@brotlowskyrgseg1018]

@@danielgarza1209 Meanwhile at OKH: "We need a bigger dick, I mean gun!" "But mein Führer, our industrie can't..." "Just take the biggest field gun and put it in a tank!"

[@filzhut6234]

@@brotlowskyrgseg1018 Let's make a german KV-2

[@asw-g-64gundamflaurosryuse41]

5:02 There the argument is over. He ended it right here everyone can stop talking about it now

[@hmshood9212]

“Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.” *Runs into the Metz*

[@ravenwing199]

Blasts it full of HeSH

[@angus57720]

@@ravenwing199 Pulls up and fires several smoke rounds (which used white phosphorous) for good measure.

[@ravenwing199]

@@angus57720 Fuck get the M 12 and just disappear it.

[@MrAwsomenoob]

Well metz *DID* fall so... Kinda right?

[@wrayday7149]

“Use a fkn tank!” - Sun Tzu, probably

[@GorrilazWarfare]

that FDR ear-rape scared the heck out of me but it was appreciated

[@nelzelpher2088]

"it just works"

[@jcoal9006]

I read this comment as it showed up

[@joshuaearlsumbillo25]

3:1 advantage? So Squire wasn't joking.

[@Pikkabuu]

When has Squire joked?! He is stiff lipped British gentleman after all, and stiff lipped British gentlemen don't joke around.

[@chefrowlet]

it was common scuttlebut that you needed 5 shermans to kill a tiger, but that was just due to the fact that tank groups just rolled out in 5s. Really, you just need a sherman with the 76mm long barrel cannon and eyes on.

[@JoelJames2]

*"Because when it ran into an ambush it didn't magically deflect the shells and throw them back at the enemies who fired them."* Clearly someone hasn't been introduced to the Bob Semple tank yet.

[@erickroman9857]

The bottom left corner kills me XD 0:41 “what you see” 0:42 “what she sees” The man himself XD

[@cartermiller853]

If wot included crew survivability, Americans would probably be only crews you don’t have to replace after every 5 battles. Soviets every battle

[@DanieleCapellini]

muh asiatic hordes

[@Donnerbalken28]

Don't give WG any silly ideas pls.

[@fieldmarshalgaig9477]

Yeh but then Russian t10s would only cost 50 silver

[@frenchsoldier8485]

Soviet tanks were so repairable, that German tank kills were reduced by 30-50%

[@zachburkey447]

@@frenchsoldier8485 Sometimes they would just remove the dead crew, hose out the interior, patch the holes and fix the major damage and it's back out to fight. Men and Machine were expendable resources for the motherland

[@Colonel_dinggus]

Ive never heard the great depression called the big sad before and its way more funny than it should be. Next will be the disproportionate disheartenment

[@MultiNaruto900]

Next is the Brobdingnagian Stagflation

[@tansanbotilya1443]

"so your friend can finally see their dream of panzers in London" Had me laughing so hard lol

[@MrAwsomenoob]

Yo dawg I heard your economy broke so we used the economy on the economy to fix the economy

[@khurelbatbayanbat7913]

**NEW DEAL INTENSIFIES**

[@AlphaSections]

*WAR INDUSTRY INTENSIFIES*

[@3xfaster]

*REV UP THOSE RIVETERS*

[@liamkerr7183]

Yea that didn't really work ww2 brought the US out of the depression and is the only reason we are so powerful today

[@danieltobin4498]

Liam Kerr Uh...no. The US was starting to recover from the depression before WW2. Due in part thanks to the New Deal, I’m not saying it was the main reason we started recovering from the Depression but it was certainly a factor that can’t be ignored. To say nothing of the projects that were constructed during the Roosevelt era like Hoover Dam which would go on to power many factories which churned out war supppies. It had an effect