The Ancestor of All Flowers - Amborella trichopoda. Cameo by Jurassic Fern Dungeon.

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Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't

Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't

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It's astonishing how unnoticeable this plant - arguably one of the most famous plants in botany textbooks all over the world - would be to anybody walking through the slopes of this humid forest filled with tree ferns at 500 m (1640") elevation. Yet this species is considered to be the most ancient flowering plant lineage in existence, a lineage that stretches back 130 million years. Plants are dioecious (male or female) and their flowers are axillary and small - just a modest perianth; some bracts and anthers if male and, if female, 5 carpels and a few staminodes.
The population of plants I saw nested on the slopes of this little ravine was almost entirely female (supposedly they flower in March but in New Caledonia, since it never seems get too cold, many plants don't seem to adhere to any strict phenology, seeming instead to just flower whenever temperatures and precipitation allow). The plants occurred in the shady understory, their leaves speckled with #Cephaleuros algae. I saw a flying fox dip out from high up in the canopy of a large tree while the rain drizzled down around me. The tree ferns next to me were easily 70 feet tall. The forest floor was a thick carpet of duff and old fern fronds.
It was subtly comforting to be staring at this plant, a link to the past and to the emergence of what came to be the dominant photosynthetic life form on Earth's landmasses - the Angiosperms. A modern descendant of the oldest flowering plant that stood as a window looking in to the past 130 million years of plant evolution (and of the past 130 million years of evolution of all life on Earth, really) was growing here right next to me, dotting the slopes of this forest so inconspicuously. Without any context for it, it would've been easy to walk right by without even noticing. But its place in the history of life on Earth is paramount. Flowering plants are the foundation of human civilization and the entire base of Earth's food chain. Without them, none of us would be here. Had they not evolved, and conifers, cycads and ferns still been the dominant photosynthesizers, Earth today would look drastically different. Yet here we are, and on those forested slopes in the shady understory on the island of New Caledonia is #Amborella trichopoda.
Species list for this episode :
Angiopteris evecta (Marattiaceae)
Ptisana attenuata (Marattiaceae)
Hoya nicholsoniae (Apocynaceae)
Geodorum densiflorum (Orchidaceae)
Cyathea intermedia (Cyatheaceae)
Amborella trichopoda (Amborellaceae)
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@igorjee
@igorjee 4 жыл бұрын
Video quality pretty good for the Mesozoic.
@Angiebobandi
@Angiebobandi 4 жыл бұрын
"WHY DOES IT DO DAT" summarizes how I feel trying to learn all this stuff
@Andrewjohnmay1983
@Andrewjohnmay1983 4 жыл бұрын
angie g INCENSED!!
@Nellywellum
@Nellywellum 4 жыл бұрын
I like it when se says it like that.
@charleschidsey6192
@charleschidsey6192 3 жыл бұрын
This statement sums up the entirety of scientific thought.
@garybaxter7297
@garybaxter7297 4 жыл бұрын
Tony and his arboreal asphyxiation kink. This Guy's Big Fat Brain and his sense of humor crack me up.
@boa9535
@boa9535 4 жыл бұрын
Gary Baxter: His name is Tony Santoro.
@garybaxter7297
@garybaxter7297 4 жыл бұрын
@@boa9535 thanks bud
@boa9535
@boa9535 4 жыл бұрын
Gary Baxter: I’m sorry, but I didn’t intend to insult you. I was just trying to pass on factual information. He’s titled another video “Tony Santoro’s Guide to Botany.”
@garybaxter7297
@garybaxter7297 4 жыл бұрын
@@boa9535 not insulted by any means, I am human and perfection evades us all. Have a great day Boa.
@rachiesayd9423
@rachiesayd9423 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I referred to him as Jack in another comment section, until I discovered that is the name of his dog!!! He totally sounds like a Tony, if you know what I mean.....
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 4 жыл бұрын
4:10 I want to see an hour-long compilation of just Joey's conversations with critters.
@mezmarionybarra
@mezmarionybarra 4 жыл бұрын
YAZZZZZZ!
@Daniellaofsweden
@Daniellaofsweden 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I would love to see some animals as well. Maybe at dusk so we can see some geckos? New caledonia has the worlds largest ones, the Leachianus.
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 4 жыл бұрын
@@Daniellaofsweden You're adorable. And I love your vids! The vivariums are beautiful.
@boa9535
@boa9535 4 жыл бұрын
andybaldman: His name is Tony Santoro.
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 4 жыл бұрын
@@boa9535 That's his screen name. Google Joey Santore.
@Laggie74
@Laggie74 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm gotta teach you a lesson you can't refuse." Love the accent.
@suikatime
@suikatime 4 жыл бұрын
happy that he is out there for me as I wile away in my factory as they slowly rob me of the very thing that makes me a human animal...
@Nellywellum
@Nellywellum 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@Jameson1776
@Jameson1776 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the attitude how about do something about the situation.
@Nellywellum
@Nellywellum 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jameson1776 Wow, THANK YOU!! Fuck, why didn't I think of that?! GTFO, condescending dick. You don't know our lives.
@eden7010
@eden7010 4 жыл бұрын
Jani Abolish capitalism
@ethanallenhawley1052
@ethanallenhawley1052 4 жыл бұрын
@@eden7010 Got a better idea?
@swayback7375
@swayback7375 4 жыл бұрын
"Have you had enough?" Hell no! I need more, this is unreal! Maybe even fantastic or stellar, running out of lame complements here, just beat me with that rachis!
@charleshash4919
@charleshash4919 4 жыл бұрын
Betcha dat rachis wood make a purty gud "rhiddum stik"
@victorsaloum9731
@victorsaloum9731 4 жыл бұрын
that tree fern oh my god.17:41.
@BRIANJAMESGIBB
@BRIANJAMESGIBB 4 жыл бұрын
I KNOW !!!
@Purwapada
@Purwapada 4 жыл бұрын
. Cyathea intermedia is the tallest treefern species in the world (I think it beats cyathea brownii even!!!)
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 4 жыл бұрын
You can stand under my Amborella.
@newq
@newq 4 жыл бұрын
*SEES TITLE* IT'S HAPPENING!! IT'S HAPPENING!! *HEAVY BREATHING*
@CRMayerCo
@CRMayerCo 4 жыл бұрын
You are amazing. 👍🏻👍🏻 KZbin is mostly a cesspool, but your channel is gold.
@FayeVert
@FayeVert 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has wanted to spend the night in the Fern Room at Garfield Park Conservatory. Never occurred to me to try it, though.
@rainiercountry7060
@rainiercountry7060 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man. You make me smile. I’m not a plant guy, well I wasn’t. Anyway, you make me smile, mostly cuz, you’ve got a way about ya N’such. I’m kinda an asshole most the time on account of people shooting at me and seeing terrible stuff n’whatnot. Anyway, you should be happy knowing that you bring joy to people. I for one appreciate what you’re doing!
@joemeyers4131
@joemeyers4131 Жыл бұрын
Hey are you from Cape Cod and where's yurr codd ??
@WiseSnake
@WiseSnake 4 жыл бұрын
27:30 Definitely a member of Papilionidae. That thing popping up is called an osmeterium; used for defensive poking. lol
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 4 жыл бұрын
Wise Snake, defensive stinky poking!
@Wizradical
@Wizradical 4 жыл бұрын
It's a Orchard Swallowtail Butterfly Papilio aegeus.
@ronsmith1364
@ronsmith1364 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you brought your sketch book & sat & spent time capturing a memento of that journey for yourself. Thanks for all you share. 🙇‍♂️🙏
@dingviet4310
@dingviet4310 4 жыл бұрын
I fucking LOVE this guy's channel. I can't stop watching.
@Kalanchoe1
@Kalanchoe1 4 жыл бұрын
I kept this video for a rough day. thank you, it really does help.
@MrSharps02
@MrSharps02 4 жыл бұрын
i thought we had impressive ferns in the PNW holy mackerel
@SyBernot
@SyBernot 4 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I was also thinking, get out of the sun, go visits some fronds. Always makes you feel a little umbel in the presence of all that selagi and stiff rachis.
@Wizradical
@Wizradical 4 жыл бұрын
27:37 the caterpillar is a It's a Orchard Swallowtail Butterfly Papilio aegeus.
@willi-fg2dh
@willi-fg2dh 4 жыл бұрын
can't remember who said it (i'm an old) but it went something like this: "people only use 10% of their brains because if we used the whole thing, the first living thing we set eyes on we would just sit and stare thinking 'WOW, look at that!" you, sir, are in danger of using more than that 10%
@progenitor_amborella
@progenitor_amborella 4 жыл бұрын
it's funny watching people take lsd or mushrooms because they do EXACTLY that.
@coyotetrickster5758
@coyotetrickster5758 4 жыл бұрын
The whole 10% thing is bs, but yeah, the creative intelligent people still have that sense of awe that kids have as they are swatting in the mud as it rains.
@forestofheavy
@forestofheavy 4 жыл бұрын
That Dept of Unauthorized Forestry logo would look great on a round patch...just sayin'
@chriswilliams6612
@chriswilliams6612 4 жыл бұрын
im not sure if i get smarter watching these, but at least it feels like i am. thank you, your videos are excellent!
@psilocyborg6969
@psilocyborg6969 4 жыл бұрын
AAAH! I LOVE PLANT! I LOVE THIS CHANNEL! AAAAAHH PLANT!
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hike.
@michaelnancyamsden7410
@michaelnancyamsden7410 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. New Caladonia. What a place.
@vencent8329
@vencent8329 4 жыл бұрын
yall randomly hear someone talking in forest loud you know him
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 4 жыл бұрын
Joey, do you use a key before you make these vids? I have a hard time accepting that you just know all of these off the top of your head. What's your process when you go into a new area to make a vid?
@ghewins
@ghewins 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an incredibly spectacular place to botanize
@bluetoad2001
@bluetoad2001 4 жыл бұрын
the fern stickbug is pretty cool. these ferns blow my mind. they must somehow be the beginnings of trees in the ‘beginning’.
@MaxBrix
@MaxBrix 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin is determined to get me to watch your videos.
@MaxBrix
@MaxBrix 4 жыл бұрын
Who can't use some Latin 'n $#!t
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 4 жыл бұрын
And you should be thankful for it, lol
@sarasmr4278
@sarasmr4278 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta nice umbel is why
@annkasten4367
@annkasten4367 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking us with you!
@user-wm9qw3mf6w
@user-wm9qw3mf6w 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man. Makes me want to learn so much more and do some planting :)
@muscovyducks
@muscovyducks 4 жыл бұрын
You made us wait, and patiently wait we did
@mattclark7724
@mattclark7724 4 жыл бұрын
Stick bug" You're blowing my cover ya sassy bastard! "
@jasminewood395
@jasminewood395 4 жыл бұрын
Man, that is so cool, all of it. Those fucking dinosaur ferns just blow me away ! Really sparks the imagination
@craighoover1495
@craighoover1495 4 жыл бұрын
I was just today reading about some of these ferns in Simpson's, Plant Systematics. Nice to see some actual plants in this episode.
@Tindomul1of9
@Tindomul1of9 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I've seen the plant(Amborella) other than a photograph in a textbook. Thank you!
@newq
@newq 4 жыл бұрын
Chirst. New Caledonia is fucking amazing. It's like a trip back to the goddamn Jurassic. I don't know how I'll do it, but I have to make my way there someday. Bucket list shit. Also, this is officially my favorite of his videos ever. I've watched it like three times already. That little ravine is a fucking time machine.
@mjade1673
@mjade1673 4 жыл бұрын
Wow,🤩, excellent read💓! Thank you🙏
@Nhoj31neirbo47
@Nhoj31neirbo47 4 жыл бұрын
The Amborella Genome Project has shed some light on ‘Darwin’s abominable mystery ‘, l.e. , the rise of angiosperms.
@lennonberndt7289
@lennonberndt7289 4 жыл бұрын
watching this in your hoodie that just showed up. love it pal. p.s. more of your dogs please.
@aviefallis7534
@aviefallis7534 4 жыл бұрын
I love your comments you add post-production! I rented out some of the books you recommended in the 101 video and I've been loving to follow along!
@victorsaloum9731
@victorsaloum9731 4 жыл бұрын
Avie Fallis no need to waste money and rent return them and go into the cpbbd subreddit and there’s a download link for all the books into one file.
@Sacto43
@Sacto43 4 жыл бұрын
@@victorsaloum9731 what? Like reddit subreddit? I'm old...speak slowly.
@Sacto43
@Sacto43 4 жыл бұрын
Found it! Thank you!
@victorsaloum9731
@victorsaloum9731 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sacto43 joey santoros school of biological sciences haha
@aviefallis7534
@aviefallis7534 4 жыл бұрын
@@victorsaloum9731 Oh, I didn't know! I really do enjoy the hardback copies
@AndrewBeals
@AndrewBeals 4 жыл бұрын
With fronds like those, who needs anemones?
@VickyDPi
@VickyDPi 4 жыл бұрын
This was a particularly horny video eh? Really nice. Loved the eusporangia money shot. Love following you around through geologic eras, into dungeons and refugial valleys. Hope you are having the time of your life man!!
@metrikal1
@metrikal1 4 жыл бұрын
Yall sleeping on Montsechia HORNWORT GANG
@pitayapandi
@pitayapandi 4 жыл бұрын
would you be open to opening your subtitles/cc to community contribution? It helps to have something to read along while you watch, and I would be perfectly willing to help as well
@btwbrand
@btwbrand 4 жыл бұрын
I use the google translated captions and they do well with all of his videos. Not perfect but very good considering the subject matter of the videos.. The taxonomical names it may have trouble with but there is usually an on-screen card to spell it out close by.
@stacehansen3140
@stacehansen3140 4 жыл бұрын
Just sitting here, plucking my mustache and Happy Day! New CPBBD!
@charleschidsey6192
@charleschidsey6192 3 жыл бұрын
“You look good for a shelf fungus”, another classic pick up line for the botany enthusiast.
@Filbie
@Filbie 4 жыл бұрын
I fully appreciate being called a sassy bastard
@NewMessage
@NewMessage 4 жыл бұрын
"Fern's Dungeon" is my favorite Dark Web site.
@susandoerr3896
@susandoerr3896 4 жыл бұрын
good afternoon. i get to remodel on my own you angelic potty mouthed person. . anyway where we differ but i have gotten raunchy too but with my older sister who doesn't get it sometimes . she teaches little ones her whole life. does a good job. boy the president could use her as a sounding board and would nt rattle her. amazing.
@wolfbear7
@wolfbear7 4 жыл бұрын
I could listen to you for a very long time. Even though you're from Chicago or thereabouts, you sound like someone from home, which is near New York City. I love it that you have this abiding respect for plants and have learned things on your own. This shit matters. You are right, life on Earth would be very different if plants evolved in a different way. I like finding out how things work and why, and plants don't actively lie like some people do. I just like learning stuff and especially when I respect that what I'm hearing is the truth as far as you know it. What a world. I hope we don't blow it up. We already do enough to our environment by shitting where we live. We need to use our brains, but we've been "educated" not to. Thank You. I'm off to fuck myself.
@cgriggsiv
@cgriggsiv 4 жыл бұрын
It is so awesome that you are able to walk through living fossils of the Cretaceous and probably even older
@serrakilduff6580
@serrakilduff6580 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see all the New Caledonian flora- really familiar but odd looking from a Southern Pacific perspective. Cool Eleocarpus. There are a couple of species in New Zealand. The one that is the easiest to remember is Eleocarpus hookerianus. :) yep...
@patrickphillips634
@patrickphillips634 4 жыл бұрын
I want a CPBBD sticker for my Jeep or water bottle......
@707stormfur707
@707stormfur707 4 жыл бұрын
For real. CPBBD is one of maybe a half dozen channels I'd totally advertise on my car
@zorrokitty5666
@zorrokitty5666 4 жыл бұрын
fizz i’ve told so many people about his channel even non plant people
@bonlynx
@bonlynx 4 жыл бұрын
Yesss he's got shirts but we really need stickers!!
@grannyplants1764
@grannyplants1764 3 жыл бұрын
@Poop Snorkle geez even here we get road rage.....🌿🌻
@charleshopkins3598
@charleshopkins3598 4 жыл бұрын
They say some people never know when to come in from the rain, but in your case I am glad you staid to show and botanize some exotic plants I will never see. Go get dry on the outside and wet inside with a cold beer. Thanks again
@thegardenoffragileegos1845
@thegardenoffragileegos1845 4 жыл бұрын
Will the ancients survive us.
@HikingWithShawn
@HikingWithShawn 4 жыл бұрын
You're like the Andrew Dice Clay of Botany :D haha Nice work!
@antonstegen1737
@antonstegen1737 4 жыл бұрын
A Jurasic park moment.- nice.
@fatherpossum
@fatherpossum 4 жыл бұрын
I actually always love ferns even as a young kid but now I am even more in love with them, freaking impressive
@joemeyers4131
@joemeyers4131 Жыл бұрын
I wish I didn't live in the desert for that for seeing ferns . My dad had different ferns in front yard where we grew up in Los Angeles county .
@FOREVERMOREtoLOVE
@FOREVERMOREtoLOVE 4 жыл бұрын
thank you. my homicidal feelings needed quelling.
@cgriggsiv
@cgriggsiv 4 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon You sassy bastard I will be watching this later on tonight after work
@PepperGuru
@PepperGuru 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I love this show
@5x5trueaudio
@5x5trueaudio 4 жыл бұрын
The safe word of the day is "osmeterium"...
@RedactedEarth
@RedactedEarth 4 жыл бұрын
Another banger my man
@crex-pd1vv
@crex-pd1vv 4 жыл бұрын
greetings!
@lisakukla459
@lisakukla459 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa, is that a turkey tail mushroom? If so, that thing is yuge!
@swayback7375
@swayback7375 4 жыл бұрын
Are there homeless in new caledonia? Maybe I could stowaway on a slow boat and sneak onto the island, fade into the undergrowth and play with these plants til I die?
@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like any rich country they have plenty of homeless hiding out in the nooks and crannies
@swayback7375
@swayback7375 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt how deadly would you judge the wilderness there? Seems pretty benign for the tropics, so ...only moderately deadly... I might last a couple weeks ... might just worth it
@lucastham9328
@lucastham9328 4 жыл бұрын
At 13:23 there seems to be a climbing aroid, maybe some sort of anadendrum/rhaphidophora sp.?? nice
@jasminewood395
@jasminewood395 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a fresh upload! I'm dyin over here!
@standarddeviation7963
@standarddeviation7963 4 жыл бұрын
I wish this channel existed when I was taking Environmental Science.
@travismcj
@travismcj 4 жыл бұрын
Please come to the wet tropics of Australia.
@chicagosebdesigns
@chicagosebdesigns 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah i know Garfield Park Conservatory... I took a few photographs there!!! #Chicago look for them on Instagram: ChicagoSeb
@meplant-man634
@meplant-man634 3 жыл бұрын
I am having to live vicariously through your videos. Currently stuck in a cesspool of human infrastructure.
@hyperelliptik
@hyperelliptik 4 жыл бұрын
13:17 A hoya was my first houseplant. Got it around 2017, it stayed the winter-half-year by a north-facing window in the small apartment I shared with another student, then moved in with me where I live now where it has spent the last 2 1/2 years perched upon a random shelf. Still lives. Cut off parts of it several times in attempts to propagate it. Never repotted. Never flowered. I think it's holding on by spite alone.
@art.cryptid.creates
@art.cryptid.creates 4 жыл бұрын
Angiopteris evicta is a really bad invasive species where I live (Hawaii) so I do basically get the kill bill sirens going off in my head every time I see one. BUT it is really cool to see one in its natural habitat for a change.
@taraldstein7165
@taraldstein7165 4 жыл бұрын
I love the fern dungeon! And the Hoya. And the forest. All of it. Keep it coming!
@geoffbreen2386
@geoffbreen2386 4 жыл бұрын
Where Hoya nicholsoniae occurs in north eastern Australia it has been re determined as Hoya potsii. There is a group of related Hoya species in the south west Pacific including Hoya samoensis from.... Samoa.
@PhoenixProdLLC
@PhoenixProdLLC 4 жыл бұрын
Cracks me up when you talk to the various creatures 😁 And this video was particularly stand out! 👋👋👋🙏😊 Hope the rest of the state was great for you. 🙋
@bmfj3104
@bmfj3104 4 жыл бұрын
The way you crap knowledge right into my head is beautiful. I mean if crap can be beautiful. So there you go. I hate to say it but I love this channel but the universe could care less. Thanks Tony.
@lucastham9328
@lucastham9328 4 жыл бұрын
17:15 another well known species, G.citrinum also does that
@dylan8285
@dylan8285 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cow i thought the massive tree ferns i saw in Hawaii were big but these are next level massive. Although i like the ones in Hawaii their so fuzzy and soft to touch these 2x4 ferns are so wooden and wrinkly and dont look as nice.
@stuntone
@stuntone 4 жыл бұрын
About time, wanna be on my Podcast G ??? 🙏🏽🔴🎙🎥🌎📈🍄🌱
@rolo2415
@rolo2415 4 жыл бұрын
Lifestyles of the selaginallacious and the famous. Don't hear me complaining...
@skydiaz8151
@skydiaz8151 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet baby jesus. That's a big boy.
@nCUonnection
@nCUonnection 4 жыл бұрын
Are staffs supposed to have staffs? Those are stiff staffs. You can say you've "made a stiff staff video" and put it on the internet.
@BenhamMichael
@BenhamMichael 3 жыл бұрын
What's the best time of year to visit New Caledonia to see flowers in bloom?
@hiddencryptid
@hiddencryptid 4 жыл бұрын
NGL, I heard that bird at 1:45, and looked out my window saying "WTF was that?!"
@floydt2029
@floydt2029 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing plants! thanks for your show!
@Daniellaofsweden
@Daniellaofsweden 4 жыл бұрын
You're like the uncle I never had. This channel is the best.
@veteranscannabisadvocacygr5401
@veteranscannabisadvocacygr5401 4 жыл бұрын
EarthWise 🌏 You are a walking Forest 🌳 Treasure , a walking/ talking Reflection in the perfection of Natural World
@niceshoeswannafk
@niceshoeswannafk 4 жыл бұрын
you're a hero. more sporangia!
@CindyBallreich
@CindyBallreich 4 жыл бұрын
FYI, "Sporange" is the only legitimate rhyme for "Orange". You can cheat with "Door Hinge", but everyone knows you couldn't pull it off.
@pomodorino1766
@pomodorino1766 4 жыл бұрын
Amborella trichopoda @ 18:52
@merrydaye4763
@merrydaye4763 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you must tell me your Fet avatar;) Thanks for ths videos and for being you.
@lisakukla459
@lisakukla459 4 жыл бұрын
Omg 😂 I'm watching as I work on a macrame chandelier. I was looking away when you said "Oh, look at that, somebody's working on some macrame!" That was a weird moment for me. Hahaha
@nonoluigi
@nonoluigi 4 жыл бұрын
The fern rachis at 14:46 doesn’t look like it has “woolly tufts or long soft hairs,” which is the dictionary.com definition for “floccose,” as you called it. Nice new word, but the pic looks more like wrinkly elephant skin or something (although elephants are actually hairy). Is the camera/pic not catching it or is your personal definition different? Fascinating video, BTW!
@boboala1
@boboala1 4 жыл бұрын
I likes me a big tree fern! I dig the natural camouflage the insects have developed. Brilliant! It seems like every leaf on every frond has sporangia pods lined up next to each other completely outlining/following the leaf contour. Must be thousands of 'em per frond. Is this why they've survived so long thru the ages?
@sjmazzoli
@sjmazzoli 4 жыл бұрын
these episodes keep getting better..thanks
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