The ancient golden treasure rewriting Danish history - BBC REEL

[@TheWizardOfTheFens]

For those who are interested, the runes are written backwards, and in the Elder Futhark. If we reverse them the inscription says: IZ WO D NAS WE RAZ. A modern English translation would be “He [IS] Wodnas’s man. This is in old Danish or old norse and is a representation of an earlier stage of the language, which can be shown by the retention of the initial “W” in the name Wodnas, which is the genitive case. Around the 8th centur, North GERMANIC language dropped the initial “W” on many words, including “Woden” to “Oden” or “Odin”.

[@yanina.korolko]

Thank you kindly for the explanation. Regards!

[@kLeo20Toes]

Definitely read all that information 🙌

[@eliasan]

This is why English has “Wednesday” but Danish has “onsdag” :)

[@MTG776]

My father in-law found a Viking sword in Long-fort Ireland when digging near a bog besides the road. The best I ever found was an old coke can...

[@HgHg-yp6ft]

How old the old coke cane was? You might be on something mate, dont give up...

[@MTG776]

@@HgHg-yp6ft Haha, I think it was the coke can from the Philadelphia Experiment...

[@Ulyssestnt]

Lol same here,I found a bunch of old brass from a temporary army barracks from ww1,thats the extent of my finds yet:P

[@giulia3970]

I discovered a Roman city, Peltuinum, with catacombs, but the Jesuits didn't want to talk to me, under some Templar remains.🤷🤦 I have not studied there anymore, I cried a lot, but in Italy doing archeology is difficult

[@Ulyssestnt]

@@giulia3970 For real?,that is the coolest thing ever.

[@YamiKisara]

The BBC is extremely good at rewriting history, that part of your title is very true.

[@TanmoyBiswas]

So great to see history unfolding scientifically. Wish it continues with other findings around the world (...kinda long overdue).

[@yossarianmcnulty7979]

This is the best metal detector advertisment ever.

[@crazycutz8072]

woooooweeewuuuuwweeeeeoooo :D haha.. sure is

[@steffenb.jrgensen2014]

It doesn't rewrite Danish history, but it ads some chapters that so far have been missing

[@maltrho]

or footnotes at least yeah

[@holmbjerg]

It does not turn our knowledge upside down, but we can now trace the Norse religion 250 years further back and we have a closer link from the mythology of the Bronze Age and until the Norse gods takes over.

[@brostenen]

Uhmmm.... It does rewrite history. Nobody are saying rewrites the entire history.

[@Game_Hero]

Imagine that one amulet you lost being the sole left thing testifying of your existence, that it was there at this place because of you, the last trace of your life and everything in it...

[@yetanotherjohn]

WOW! I've never seen Runes on gold, it looks magnificent.

[@josephkolodziejski6882]

Really interested in what they say. If the Constantine interpretation is correct, It is quite possibly contains the oldest full sentences in the Germanic languages - the Gothic Bible dates back to only 450's.

[@davidkennedy8929]

Didn’t hermoine granger in Harry Potter study ancient runes!!!! Only putting a light hearted comment as I do appreciate the history involved in this article.

[@yetanotherjohn]

@@davidkennedy8929 Mention her with dreadful care, Sir! Her eye-roll is most likely lethal to us muggles. xD

[@TheWizardOfTheFens]

The runes are written backwards, and in the Elder Futhark. If we reverse them the inscription says: IZ WO D NAS WE RAZ. A modern English translation would be “He [IS] Wodnas’s man. This is in old Danish or old norse and is a representation of an earlier stage of the language, which can be shown by the retention of the initial “W” in the name Wodnas, which is the genitive case. Around the 8th centur, North GERMANIC language dropped the initial “W” on many words, including “Woden” to “Oden” or “Odin”.

[@christopherstein2024]

Sometimes I'm a bit annoyed with how people act like there is only one name for this Germanic god and that "Odin" might be that. ᚹᛟᛞᚾᚨᛋ / "Wodnas" means the same thing as "Wednes" in "Wednesday". Simple as that. Here it seems to be about his man instead of his day.

[@Section5_CdnIntelService]

It would have been nice if they gave us more detail about the items themselves. What did the writings say? Besides Odin and a Roman emperor who were the faces depicted on the flat bits?

[@katie3585]

I'm sure they're working on the translations for that. This find is too new for that.

[@kinuuni]

The runes next to the Odin figure says 'the high one'.

[@kinuuni]

@@katie3585 It isn't really, it was found in november last year and there are translations out there. But in Danish.

[@troelspeterroland6998]

@@kinuuni Please, if it is a scientific source, do you have links? I am also searching high and low for updates in Danish, English or any other language.

[@Ctenomy]

On one of them I can read DN Valentinianus PF Aug, so the legend is just the from the Roman coin they were copying (in this case a Valentinian solidus). I would imagine all Latin writing is just copied from Roman coins, the runes however would be interesting to know what they say

[@jimgordon6629]

The apparent randomness of this find is amazing. The objects are very unusual. It shouldn’t be hard to identify the Roman emperor pictured, it likely has his name on it. I wonder if these guys got any reward for finding these things, which might not have shown up for centuries if not for their metal detector. The part about the volcano is really a stretch. The treasure was likely buried to save it from someone else. Then the burier likely pass d from the scene. We’ll never know who or why. The Danish are amazingly low key. That they are descended from adventurers and plunderers is very mysterious.

[@user-mv6he6gl8m]

The law in nordic countries obliges you to turn in historic findings to the state but you get a finders fee that is reasonable. Any honourable Dane would report a find of this magnitude to the proper authorities I'm sure.

[@troelspeterroland6998]

I am sure that they were rewarded according to the law on this type of finds. It is already quite certain that the emperor is Constantine the Great because two of the objects are actually Roman coins that have been extended with further ornamentation in northern Europe. The other finds, the so-called bracteates, are in a sense a fairly typical kind of object. We have hundreds already, and with similar depictions, but what is unusual about these is their very large size. I am a little puzzled as to why the experts here apparently regard these bracteates with depictions of Odin as older than our other bracteates with similar pictures and style. I would like to know more about that.

[@PiXie232]

@@troelspeterroland6998 I would love to know more as well. If you find anything, any links in English, I’d love to read them:) Thank you!

[@lucie4185]

@@troelspeterroland6998 from what I understood it was the runic inscription naming Odin that was unusual.

[@troelspeterroland6998]

@@lucie4185 Yes, that is indeed unusual if that is the case. I am just warily awaiting what a runologist has to say about it. We still haven't heard from one, I believe... The bracteate does indeed seem to read WODIAS or WODNAS. There seems to be one rune missing. Of course, spelling is not exactly the bracteate makers' forte since 85-90% of bracteate inscriptions are unreadable and apparently just consist of random, jumbled runes for the sake of magic. But if it is really a legible word, I suppose it could be WODINAS which is meant. However, it seems to be in the genitive with the -S suffix because the nominative would be WODINAZ. So theoretically, it could belong together with the next word which is partly erased but seems to read WE...Z. Maybe WEGAZ, "way"? Anyway, that is just speculation. I would really like to know the assessment of a runologist. Is this really to be read as an actual word? Or two? I hope so.

[@redwoods7370]

Exquisite and utterly fascinating!

[@jimferry6539]

This why metal detecting should be encouraged and not made forbidden

[@MrEnaric]

With a clear regulation, this does work. In the Netherlands archeological sites are ofcourse protected and off limits, but most finds nowadays are made in agricultural fields. Archeologist rely heavily on reported finds because they cover most terrain and archeologists are always underfunded. The most important hoard finds, like in Denmark, are made by amateurs.

[@Ivanowich]

@@MrEnaric Every danish find older than around year 1550 belong to the state... The detectorists then gets a "finders fee" based on the walue, how well it is dug up/taken care of and how the find is described/identyfied... They also add the GPS location...

[@wookchang8852]

I am running out to get a metal detector.

[@lynnwood7205]

The viewer may wish to refer to the book by David Keys "Catastrophe: An Investigation into the Origins of Modern Civilization" The book delves into the collapse of the existing civilizations all across the world at the same time as the Danish gold was buried. There is strong evidence of a volcanic or celestial impact event which caused extreme weather, years of crop failure, altered temperatures which allowed spread of disease and changed forage for domesticated animals. There are excerpts from written accounts across the world of conditions. The concept that the gods were, or God was, angered, would not be an unreasonable thought to hold for anyone living in that time.

[@a.a.1245]

The year was 536 I presume

[@lynnwood7205]

@@a.a.1245 Yes.

[@giulia3970]

Grazieeee thanks, in Usa they call the younger drier..have a watch video megaliticuk

[@giulia3970]

The flood engulfed all the lands, the Vikings had the boats ready😆😆😆, apart from Noah, the proto Indians, the protosumeri They were saved and the arks ended up elsewhere, on the And, which re-emerged as islands .. then civilization began again from top to bottom, watch video cueva de Iria, cueva de Talios, Father Crespi collection..Gobleki Temple Is older than Stonenge, 200 millions years ago, on the pillars it has dinosaurs, and in the Curva de Iria there are metal plates with a type of dinosaur, silver, and then the clay figurine, with an Indian horse of a dinosauri, Plus the tablets with different scripts, proto-numbers, protosanskrit, and one never seen ... I don't know what the Vikings did, but they certainly didn't fear water... they may have an older origin than we think. Who do I give because in Sardinia ancient warriors with horned helmets are depicted, who were later enlisted in Egypt, another little nation or Common progenitor?

[@garryferrington811]

Amazing that some guy with a metal detector changed history.

[@okay5045]

Fascinating can't wait to hear more

[@BobbyBruce03]

Viking dont get enough hype for how much of the world they actually explored. They have most of the answers to our questions

[@ViolentRainbow]

No they didn't and no they don't. These items could have come to Denmark through trade, they don't know it was viking plunder.

[@nightravenonline]

You are wright I was in England many times and I wss just surprised of what the vikings have done not allways bad they made huge footsteps in England and around the world...we should learn more sbout it..most danes dont know that .

[@brostenen]

True... However what they knew, are not documented so much. We did not keep the stories in writing before the 1100's, when Saxo wrote the stories down. Mist writings before that, can only be found on the rune stones. And they usually tell stuff like: Bjørn had this stone placed, to honor his father. Only a few tell more.

[@yanina.korolko]

IZ WO D NAS WE RAZ ≠ “He [IS] Wodnas’s man" around 600AD in that area, the language would have been much more slavic than germanic. So, this is what I believe is written: IZ WO D NAS WE RAZ = From Where 500 Of Us Were Slain. IZ - from WO - where D - 500 NAS - us/ours WE - (were) RAZ - cut/slain

[@veronicajensen7690]

the language spoken in Denmark then was proto Norse, it was a Germanic language not a Slavic , it is written in the old Runic style Futark

[@yanina.korolko]

@@veronicajensen7690 your comment shows that you need to deepen your knowledge of indoeuropean languages.. take care.

[@r8chlletters]

What is the name of this find so we can look for more specific information?

[@anderspedersen7488]

It’s called the Vindelev-treasure, after the place of the find, Vindelev in eastern Jutland, Denmark. Total weight of the find is almost 1 kg in gold.

[@Tawadeb]

536AD was a massive volcano eruption that caused several Dark Summers with no sun and crop failure.

[@CinntSaile]

This is curious. The Romans recorded the names of kings of the "tribe" occupying Jutland at the time, the Cimbri, as being Celtic. The bog body sacrifices found all over Denmark appear to be the same as those in Celtic Ireland, while many of the artefacts, like the Gundestrup Vessel, depict Celtic gods and scenes, not Viking ones. It is possible that Jutland was a Celtic outlier of a wider Celtic Europe before the Gallic Wars.

[@pipkin5287]

We don't know much about the Cimbri, as they were outcompeted by the Danes fairly early in our history. So, whether or not they were of Celtic or Teutonic(Nordic) origin in terms of genetics, I don't think we know.

[@CinntSaile]

@@pipkin5287 "Celtic" isn't a genetic definition; it is cultural/linguistic. If the Cimbri chiefs have been recorded as having Celtic names, it's a pretty good bet that they were culturally and linguistically Celtic. The people of England don't regard themselves as being Celtic yet they are essentially the same population as existed when the Romans invaded. Cultures can change but peoples generally don't. It would seem modern Danes had an earlier, Celtic past.

[@pipkin5287]

@@CinntSaile perhaps not strictly, but aside from a group that shares culture, languages, and similar phenotypes, how else would you define them? Do we have any recordings of Cimbri chiefs? I don't think we even know which language(s) they spoke.

[@CinntSaile]

@@pipkin5287 Why should we define a people beyond language and culture? Google: "Cimbri chiefs names". They are Celtic.

[@pipkin5287]

@@CinntSaile that's what I'm asking you, as you said that "Celtic" wasn't a genetic definition. Perhaps I misspoke the first time around, but I was meaning to use the term as a moniker for a closely genetically linked people. In terms of Cimbri chiefs, I'm finding nothing. Neither in English nor in German or Danish. So if you do have links to any articles, I'd love to read them!

[@kaloarepo288]

I wonder where the gold came from originally as I should imagine that the Roman empire itself did not contain a lot of gold deposits -it probably came from southern Egypt or Nubia or even the west coast of Africa(Ghana etc).Roman empire had a problem with too much of its silver and gold ending up in India or China because of a trade deficit -the Romans loved the Chinese silk and Indian spices!

[@garyprince2867]

Don't rule out that it could have been Welsh gold. Some alluvial gold is still panned there.

[@kinuuni]

In Europe gold was limited to the European reserves up until the 1500's. The gold in Denmark generally came from central Europe.

[@d74rjm]

It should be known that after the conquest of Dacia, in 106 AD Trajan took from Sarmisegetuza 165 tons of gold and 331 tons of silver. Cassius Dio says it. This gold and silver was more than all the African gold and Iberian silver taken by the Roman Empire in all their history.

[@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki]

@@garyprince2867 Romans mined gold (and exhausted the veins) in both Ireland, and sw England and the Welsh lands. And they were pretty good at extracting most of the gold.

[@jantsjerijpma628]

Why is there music when people are trying to tell us something?

[@flavius22]

Amazing to be able to have a look into the past

[@oneshotme]

Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

[@MrEnaric]

Fantastic finds! I wonder what made the inhabitants of that area made deposit these finds, long before the viking age, exactly there. A sacrificial place at the centre of a Central Place? Is the find connected to local royalty or is it a 'temple treasure'? Mythology, splendour of power (gold, specialised craftsmen, rune writers, religious symbols) point to something extraordinary exclusive in a sacred landscape. The bracteates and runic inscriptions and jewellery with filligree and almandine jewels show resemblance with finds in Wijnaldum (Westergo, Friesland, a famous Central Place from the early sixth and seventh century). But the rumes and all, so early! Really curious about the runic inscriptions in relstion to language, religion and the contact with other elites in the Waddensea area. Fantastic! Give us updates BBC!

[@Ivanowich]

The runes just say "the high one" - 24 futharc - "proto germanic "dialect""... There are many more bracteat findings from Denmark

[@SIC647]

Watch the video. They talk about the big volcanic eruption in AD 536 and the years of misfortune after that.

[@janmortensen9314]

This has always been a rich area. Many finds have been done, from different times of history. Jelling which became the residence of at least king Gorm the old and Harald Bluetooth is just south of this location

[@johnDukemaster]

"Long before viking age" That period of time is based on finds and writings. What we know today. When new finds and writings appear, like this one, the period needs adjusting. Which makes this find even more fantastic!

[@pnwprospecting]

That’s a nice gift! That metal detector is US$800

[@mehmet.albyrk]

Randomly happened, the best side of the story ❤

[@deejayk5939]

Beautiful

[@layaswara]

Great find. Explained well. 👏👏

[@kariannecrysler640]

Very interesting. Rome did hire mercenaries, maybe payment for soldiers? Love when the finds shake up the narrative💚💙🍀💙💚

[@markgarin6355]

Pretty sure the signal from the metal detector would have shown the metal type

[@classiclife7204]

Less talking heads, more descriptions of the actual items. What do the runes say? Which Roman emperors?

[@maltrho]

People talk about a sudden great change in language(from protogermanic or ingveaonic to old nordic), but it is most likely a change in the people, or the leadning group. Our dialect is older than they claim, but the ruling over the territory is less old. This treasure is probably some ingveanonic dudes, in lack of better word.

[@josephmessner5312]

Wow !!

[@milanjares987]

Best finds

[@AstroMartine]

Amazing

[@chrismalcomson7640]

Yesterday I was driving through Berja in Spain which has Roman, Moorish connections. They'd demolished a house in the town and these two guys were manhandling a very large storage vessel that looked very ancient into the back of a car. In Spain everything under the ground is owned by the Spanish government so there's nothing to be gained by handing anything in. I'm tempted to report it to the town museum..

[@kalamir93]

Do it. As a historian I have to say: Every artifact can lead us further and can deepen our understanding of the past and what made us today.

[@haramanggapuja]

Vidunderlig! If it weren’t for the plague,I’d come visit & see all that stuff. And annoy people with my silly spørsmåler. ;-)

[@85Vikingen]

The plague?

[@haramanggapuja]

@@85Vikingen COVID. I've taken to calling it "the plague" because, like the Black Death of the 1100s, it's pretty much the beginnings of an extinction event ;-)

[@85Vikingen]

@@haramanggapuja Lol how woke of you... Good luck with the vaccines 👍🤣

[@brostenen]

Plaque? I have not seen any here in Denmark.

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

What does a gold coin showing a Roman emperor have to do with the Vikings? {:-:-:}

[@mabonbran8913]

Nothing, like they said this was buried pre Viking era. A couple of hundred years.

[@historymatters6627]

Well, it shows there was trade still going on into the 6th century in Nothern Europe, and begs the question of what they were trading to the former Roman areas, I'd guess metal working and amber

[@Calligraphybooster]

Is it justified to interpret this find in terms of early Frisian culture and would that be of help? Frisians occupied the coastal regions from roughly the Scheldt estuary in the south to I don’t know where exactly in Denmark. They were sea faring and traded with the Romans from whom they fiercely protected their independence.

[@PalleRasmussen]

Misleading header. This is about 250 years before The Early Middle Ages.

[@SIC647]

The Medieval Period is 400 AD to 1400 AD.

[@troelspeterroland6998]

We traditionally use different definitions in the Nordic countries than in the rest of the world. There, the middle ages comes directly after antiquity. We put the viking age inbetween. Hence the confusion.

[@PalleRasmussen]

@@troelspeterroland6998 no, no we do not. Nor do they.

[@troelspeterroland6998]

@@PalleRasmussen By 'traditionally' I mean that it is changing as the scientific community has become more international.

[@PalleRasmussen]

@@troelspeterroland6998 it has not since 97 when I started university

[@julesgosnell9791]

Great find - poor program - it didn't explain anything. It went on about Vikings although this predates the Viking age by 200 years. It mentions a hugely important inscription about Odin and then fails to show it. It gives you tantalising glimpses of a Roman Emperor but fails to name him. Was this an Emperor of the Western or Eastern Roman Empire. They imply that the gold was a gift to the Norse tribe that buried it rather than spoils of war but give no evidence to back up this hypothesis or to explain why the Romans would need an alliance with a Danish tribe at this time etc. I could have learnt more by just going to the museum and reading the inscriptions for myself. Not to mention what looked like interesting pagan art. There was so much to tell and so little told - very frustrating...

[@johnnymematik8649]

Maybe they want you to go to the museum. Or just explore more. See it like life is supposed to be an ADVENTURE.

[@elainechubb971]

This 7-minute-long video was probably part of an anthology program, so it's not an in-depth piece about the find, or the history of Denmark at the time.It's a short item aimed at the non-scientific viewer. I suggest you could try to find out about this online; perhaps there are articles, or at the very least a Wiipedia article that would have a bibliography giving information about any longer published article. You could ask at your public library whether they belong to any association or network that shares journals, and ask if your library can borrow any journal with an article on this hoard

[@Maridun50]

They suppose the treasure was buried around 536 A.D. which matches the great climate disaster following one or more great vulcanic diasters. The vulcanic winter affected not only the Byzantine empire, but is also supposed to have been the root of the norse myth; the Fimbulwinter - a winter which would last 3 years before the end of the world. Perhaps this golden treasure was buried by someone, who lived through this Fimbulwinter? Fascinating thought.

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

So WHAT WAS WRITTEN ON THE OBJECTS????

[@jonathonfrazier6622]

Jackson Crawford goes into all the small details. And he is a bonafide expert.

[@seshadriv4427]

Did the guy get paid?

[@Maridun50]

I'm sure he did. It is normal procedure that whoever finds treasures like this - Danefæ, as it is called. Which means artefacts that sort of belong to all of Denmark - they are being paid.

[@Omni-Man]

I hate when the so called "experts" claim they stumbled across something amazing. You literally did nothing.

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

Fascinating but also sad. The history of middle eastern religions destroying and displacing the culture and native religion of Northern Europeans is a tragedy. So much tradition was lost.

[@ronranger29]

But what came from it is rather amazing in my opinion. The whole idea of western culture of today would not have been conceptualised if not the introduction of the middle eastern religion of Christianity

[@The_Savage_Wombat]

@@ronranger29 The same thing happened over 1,000 years later in the New World. The indigenous people are still trying to recover their heritage from this act of brutality.

[@lajohnson1967]

@@ronranger29 -Oh bull! Modern culture is held back by these religions not nurtured by them.

[@ronranger29]

@@The_Savage_Wombat yes that’s true. Even in nations where Europeans destroyed native cultures as well.

[@ronranger29]

@@lajohnson1967 never said it was idiot. I said modern western culture is influenced by it. Wether that’s a bad or good thing I could care less, religion plays no part in my life, but you can’t deny it’s impact.

[@olelarsen7688]

Lots and lots of archaeological gold has been found in Denmark. Even from the stoneage. So called Lunulae necklases. This rewrites nothing. These archaeologists are just crapping themselves from self-importance. And you know brakteats has nothing to do with vikings, right?

[@paulingvar]

Nice find, but I agree ; why all this talk about vikings? This was much earlier. After the collapse of West Rom, the inflow of gold more or less ceased. This was also the case in Sweden. The Danes were bribed or allied with Rome and this is one reason for much Roman gold in Danish soil.

[@olelarsen7688]

@@paulingvar It could be right, but they also did trade. There probably was a trading route across Jutland on the small rivers Kongeå- Ribeå, 25-30 km. south of Vindelev. Anyway, the scandinavian monitary unit øre, öre, dates back before the viking age, and clearly refers to the latin word aureus, gold coin.

[@paulingvar]

@@olelarsen7688 Correct, gold also came with trade and mercenaries.

[@SatumainenOlento]

This ruined his future metal detector searches hahhaa 😁 trying to find something better...Everything else will feel like rusty nails after this find 😁 (In reality, it is probably super nice hobby still, but no need to find anything specifically any longer.)

[@PiXie232]

Right?? Lol.. seriously though.. first time out, they find a massive hoard! Nothing will *ever* compare.

[@giulia3970]

The Viking so..worked for romans as well payed warriors, and they where payed, or they producyed something for romans economical exchange

[@talchapoton2402]

The people that had gold were in on trade.commodoties and likely people.

[@jimgordon6629]

Besides, burying it wouldn’t have been a sacrifice-you can always dig it up again. A real sacrifice would be throwing it in a sacred lake

[@mightybondgayming5330]

[@LFAUSJ]

That was just the coin Kassandra paid Eivor as a token of appreciation chill no worries ! hehe AC fans whats up !!

[@rubenverheij4770]

:::::::::::::::::::::::::: "NO SIGN" on coin of Odin? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

[@IMAS7X]

I wonder who could have stolen those exquisite and elegant gold artifacts and buried them in the ground 1,500 years ago.

[@kinuuni]

No one it was likely meant as a sacrifice by a collected village.

[@IMAS7X]

@@kinuuni 🙏 A sacrifice buried underground? Interesting. It’s hard to imagine that once upon a time, Denmark was an ally of the Holy Roman Empire.

[@PiXie232]

@@kinuuni or.. it was a hoard that was buried, meant to be collected later, but they never returned.. we’ll never really know.

[@kinuuni]

@@PiXie232 Possible, but in that case it would have been extremely prolific thieves in a small community considering all of this could not possibly have belonged to one person. Arguably one person is likely to have had one medallion and perhaps even just one in the family. These thieves would have had to visit each of these 10 people individually.

[@maltrho]

so what in danish history was rewritten?

[@pipkin5287]

The fact that the old goods were clearly worshipped before the Viking Age - something that originally, partially defined the Viking era.

[@maltrho]

@@pipkin5287 No one belived that. It is commonly assumed that the religion of Odin and thor goes back into this era. if Odin and Thor was worshipped only later, in the viking age, how would you account for the fact the anglo-saxons also worshipped them, and the germanic tribes in germany as well? Which is commonly assumed.

[@pipkin5287]

@@maltrho That was actually the narrative when I was a kid in school, in Denmark, so that is where I'm coming from. I know personally that it's not the case because I'm interested in the topic, but your average 35-and-up Dane grew up with this narrative. Obviously, we've uncovered a lot of things since then that clarifies some of the actual historical events and culture, but saying that "No one believed that" isn't necessarily true.

[@maltrho]

@@pipkin5287 So what other religion did you hear that the scientst were assuming danish people to have had before the year of 700? Which ideas of the danish history has now been rejected? Where are the serious scholars who must admit to be wrong? No such things are there. What has happened is that there is now a piece of material culture manifestly giviing support the same idea, which were always assumed to be true, for other reasons, and for very good reasons. But that is just not "rewriting history"

[@maltrho]

In danish public schools they do not speak a lot about anglo-saxons, germanic tribes in germany, or about culture in denmark 400 to 700, so if your teacher told you "odin and thor were they gods of the viking-age", i wouldnt take that statement to be representative of "danish history as written till now "

[@krimke881]

it's a great docu to be embarrassed of your fellow countrymen English. omg.

[@freekayn2]

the stupid sound track makes it impossible to listen

[@clivecowlard7098]

The swastika at 00:21 Any thoughts ? Apart from the obvious (Don't tell Himmler)

[@kinuuni]

It was a regular sun symbol in most of the world. We have rune stones with swastika as well.

[@andrewlove3686]

Swastika is an ancient indo European symbol oldest one found is like 10,000 years ago in whats today ukraine. Jews don't like it but theyre hammer and sickle and star of david is somehow perfectly OK.

[@PiXie232]

@@andrewlove3686 seriously? You’re really going there?

[@zeynelocak9557]

Please also see ''Hitler’in Türklerden Çaldığı OZ Tamgası'' from google.

[@vesarintamaki2712]

Finnish people the real vikings and sea travellers were the strongest and last people to be conquered by Roman Empire and the Vatikan church. Finnish vikings were not thieves and murderers as the later blend of indoeuropeans and finn vikings. DNA has shown that finns are the oldest Europeans , lived here at least 43.000 years long long before the indoeuropean / arab migration. North amerikan native people have finnish heritage . Finnish vikings travelled at the mediterrian sea and the later mix vikings came to "vinland " in nort america...finnland. Oldest chinese mummies finnish genes.Sanskrit tablets finnish words finnish style.European culture based on finnish culture. Finnish shamans at Greek Apollo rite sites.etc etc etc I have heard. " The special genetic heritage of Finns have made Finland perhaps the most genetically studied nation in the world. Their genes are of interest to researchers worldwide. Finns are studied genetically more than any other people. To a large extent, this is due to the special genetic background of Finns."

[@henriknielsen1662]

@vesarintamaki2712: you would be voting Trump if you were an American

[@CaliforniaCarpenter7]

A kilo of gold is worth about $55,000 today, but these artifacts could easily fetch ten times that *each* due to the impossibility of them. I hope the Danish government made the two school friends very wealthy for their trouble.

[@kinuuni]

Not how things work. You are obliged to hand over any finds of this sort to the national museum.

[@CaliforniaCarpenter7]

@@kinuuni "Obliged" or "Obligated"? Obligated would suggest you are forced by people with loaded guns, and that is despotism. If you find the artifacts in Denmark, on your own private property, and you want to keep them, do people show up and try and lock you in a cage for it?

[@kinuuni]

@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 Which is why I said obliged. This is Denmark, not North Korea. Obliged as in, obligated, you know, duty bound, morally bound, legally bound etc? It is a real word I assure you. If the find is what is categorised as "danefæ" - something of significant historic value - it belongs to all of us. As such, keeping it for oneself is tantamount to stealing and if anyone finds out you will be fined. Which of course will happen if you try to sell it or show it to anyone. However if you do find something of course you will be compensated or rather, you get a reward. But no it will not be $50K.

[@CaliforniaCarpenter7]

@@kinuuni I'm sorry to hear you live in North Korea. You used the wrong word, you say "obliged" but you mean "obligated". If the person finding the artifact chooses not to pay the fine? Ultimately, you get a visit from the folks with loaded guns? That sucks, man. I'm sorry to hear collectivism is such a bloody affair where you're from. I don't think $50k even begins to scratch the surface of the true worth of this gold. For my part, if I found such a priceless artifact on my land in Northern California (perhaps Clovis artifacts made from precious stone?) I would only donate it if I was free to keep it. If someone threatened my life by telling me I was *"obligated"* to donate it, I would go out of my way to sell it on the black market and hopefully get away with it. But I have no such concerns because I am not from North Korea (yet) and I could get very rich selling such artifacts. Big hug, friend! Watch out for the gestapo, and steer clear of the concentration camps!

[@kinuuni]

@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 I am sorry your school system failed you. Apparently your English is worse than mine and it is my third language. You are completely right though, these artefacts are priceless. I know you don't really have history in the US so you probably can't relate but for a Danish person to not immediately contact the closest museum with something like this is incomprehensible. It simply would not happen. That is the reason they use the metal detectors in the first place, to look for artefacts they will then hand over. It is a hobby to a lot of people. You obsession with guns concerns me a bit though. What happens if you steal something from someone in the US? Here at least if you want to get technical you are fined. Then they fine you again, and again until the sum becomes so large you are asked to meet in court. If you still refuse to pay and hand over the things you go to jail. (generally without guns, the Danish police is a bit like the british one, guns are not for every occasion and picking a person up for a court date is certainly not it).

[@IsaacConejo]

I remember when I used to have a metal detector then we got smartphones and never looked back so sad

[@hansandresen4392]

7 minutes that could better have been 30 seconds

[@cjryan88]

i thought the BBC said these guys were black

[@ADBDemi]

If they are not black they are not Vikings nor Roman

[@ADBDemi]

Yes very funny

[@ADBDemi]

@yourmanwatson It’s actually hysterical

[@ADBDemi]

@yourmanwatson wrong

[@ADBDemi]

@yourmanwatson And it’s not upsetting it’s just not true

[@ADBDemi]

@yourmanwatson I mean it doesn’t even make sense to be true so why would anyone believe it in the first place

[@SandyRiverBlue]

2:17 What I can see on the sign. I found it really interesting so here is loose translation via GoogTrans, "Magt og Guld...Vikinger Iost...Vejle Kunst Museu" "Might and Gold...Lost Viking...Vejle Museum of Art.

[@anderspedersen7488]

Poster doesn’t say “Vikinger lost”, it says “Vikinger i øst”, meaning “Vikings in the East”. (I went to the website for reference). It also says “Gratis adgang”, which means Free Admittance. Enjoy your visit:-)

[@SandyRiverBlue]

@@anderspedersen7488 Darn. That was my alternate translation. Thanks. That makes a lot more sense.

[@anderspedersen7488]

@@SandyRiverBlue You’re welcome. I live about 1 hr. drive away, so might end up going to the exhibition.

[@ClaudiusAD43]

Denmark looks flat and boring

[@Maridun50]

Well - stay away then.

[@gerardocovarrubias3058]

What's worth more in the modern day gold or diamonds

[@edwardfletcher7790]

Amazing finds, shame he damaged them so badly with his clumsy shovel work ☹️

[@stillwaterrocks1508]

There was nothing to suggest that the damage was caused by them.

[@JoRiver11]

Probably had more to do with centuries of plowing the field.

[@lechatel]

Totally uncalled for. Gold is soft and, if in range of a detector would be in range of the plough and other farming activity. The clumsiest shovel work I saw in this video was done by the archeologists...they used an excavator.

[@MrEnaric]

@@lechatel Archeologist move very carefully, the excavator is for the removal of the topsoil so they can reach the archeology safely. The bracteates and other objects were often deliberately broken before deposition so they could not be used again by others (thieves). It's an ancient practice also done with swords and other weapons to dedicate them to the gods or ancestors and permanently take them out of roulation.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

@@JoRiver11 A plow has so much power, it would have torn them to shreds. He was a novice detector, he'll be much more careful next time 👍

[@ADBDemi]

NOT EUROPE

[@2000pandaGamer]

Take your meds buddy

[@ADBDemi]

@@2000pandaGamer ur name says it all

[@ADBDemi]

@@2000pandaGamer my NAME SAYS IT ALL

[@ADBDemi]

@@2000pandaGamer THESE ARE MY FAMILY NAMES OF BLACK PEOPLES

[@mariatheresavonhabsburg]

@@ADBDemi No one owns a name.

[@Cassaiuppa]

Rubbish

[@roybixby6135]

I've always thought that the Vikings were only interested in silver...🦘