The Angel of Death & His Magic Syringe | True Crime Documentary

[@anniem.8803]

This Dr that invented a test to find the drug in exhumed patient is a hero.

[@glendaperkins9231]

Yes he definitely is💐👏👏👏👍👍👍✌✌✌✌✌

[@sharongiddeons8326]

Yes indeed he is a real hero!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@nancyshillingford4103]

I’ll

[@tia-nicoleheath3805]

I thought I recognised the doctors name

[@wehazit21]

Hi I just just got home I got called you you got called called in and u

[@loriepark404]

As a retired nurse, I am deeply disturbed by all the RT's and nurses who didn't report his behavior as soon as they saw it. For an RT to have so many drugs in his possession was a huge red flag even for the 1980's and 1990's.

[@H_A_L_7]

His excuse was he broke into the guy’s locker...very weak, considering he’s already suspicious of the guy. Truly so many people could have stopped him.

[@JoseNavarro-el6yn]

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[@veronikahk1826]

If I think about in all walks of life you have to be suspicious of another person as much as you want to see the good in them...I have seen murder documentairies of american serial killers,murders etc and i am always amazed when they either say:we never locked our doors,or we never thought this and that could happen.I survived America and sometimes suprised I did but my mother in Hungary raised to be just what I said so by now i can read people well and if somebody is weird

[@alnajerhashim6383]

Why that the RT allowed to administered the medc.???

[@naturalkinkycurlymarie7496]

It's a Red Flag in any Era 1980's & 1990's makes no difference. These things were not allowed.

[@debbrawn5898]

I am a nurse and I am with you Lorie. His peers should've brought the bag of drugs to the supervisor. He should've lost his license. He should've lost his job.

[@jeremyb7659]

The second they found the syringe and morphine they should’ve done a full search of everyone’s lockers and there should also be a camera in the room where these medications were and are stored

[@cefarther3945]

You act so righteous, nurses are absolute scumbags. The unexplained deaths should have been reported by the nurses; nothing like nurses--sociopaths and liars. By far, the lowest of all occupations no matter how overpaid. Most likely the unexplained deaths were presumed due to the unethical care of the nurses and that's why no one linked it to a serial killer.

[@flyingnutrition6199]

they where doing illegal things too ...that is way they did not say anything... they felt guilty too... and they thought he just sells it or use it ... so ... is not a big deal

[@Cybella]

@@flyingnutrition6199 yep, US hospitals can be pretty, pretty corrupt.

[@yazzleberries_]

It is a big deal…..

[@divineluna1373]

As a retired RN I say that this could have been easily prevented if the nursing staffs suspicions would have been reported properly !!!

[@herrycarter]

NOW that is a Good Very INTELLIGENT WOMAN ♥️ YOU. YOU DESERVE A METAL 🏆🏆🏆👍

[@deborahevans1052]

They should have immediately reported him her their suspicions

[@arielasgedom3242]

I agreed

[@lisaholtzclaw4947]

Absolutely. Even back in the 80s we nurses and RT had to double sign out narcs. I know there are ways around anything, but unless he was a traveler, the staff should have not only noticed, but immediately reported that narcs, and especially Succs, was being found. The Succs really makes me wonder how he had availability to it. Was it left over to be wasted and pocketed instead? The whole thing is unbelievably horrible. So glad he was stopped and measures put in place to make it much more difficult to obtain these meds. Pain in the backside when ordered, but worth it when putting everything in perspective.

[@eliegroff392]

@@lisaholtzclaw4947 I'm a retired RN who mostly worked ER and ICU for over 20 years. Both Succs and Pavulon are kept in the Crash Cart for intubation. Funny thing, I worked at that hospital around that time as an Agency Nurse. They had a Children's Ward that was built and donated by Van Halen, because David Lee Roth's father was a doctor there. True story, check it out and you'll see.

[@kkheflin3]

So let me get this straight....if someone confesses to being a "serial killer" of HUNDREDS of people law enforcement has to let him go for two and a half YEARS and allow him to continue WORKING while they collect all the direct evidence to arrest him??? There is something really wrong about that IMO!

[@1mol831]

That's how the legal system works.

[@cosmiccandy8704]

That's because unfortunately there are instances where people confess under duress, through manipulation or they are trying to become notorious by 'taking credit' for another's crimes. If you're familiar with the case of Henry Lee Lucas, he fake confessed to multiple murders with the aid of law enforcement even though it was later found out it was physically impossible for him to have been at the scene of many of them. Imagine putting away the wrong person behind bars. It just leaves the real murderer free to continue as they were.

[@barbara.sexaloid]

Innocent until proven guilty beats a system where you're guilty until proven innocent, obviously.

[@kkheflin3]

@@JaponicaBelichii And you know this how?

[@berlyngrey9242]

Innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately our system is flawed. That Dr should have lost his license at the very minimum.

[@RoseRose-hp4rq]

The Doctor who developed the test to detect drugs in dead tissue is a hero! He dedicated his life for an entire year to try to find a solution! He is amazing

[@LizC-hq6tt]

I agree 100%!!! It's a shame more Doctor's aren't like this man!...

[@davidormes3420]

Scientist u mean?

[@nocturnalsmartest8823]

David , even Doctors can do research and cure

[@nocturnalsmartest8823]

@David they still even study more things at work as professionals

[@eadweard.]

Doctor Who?

[@joycelynwalker269]

Respect to all the detectives. They never give up and the devil reign came to an end. RIP to all those souls and strength to all the families. My condolences.

[@delmariecrandall9229]

Ditto from Canada

[@buffalobill9793]

Your not a hero just because you bagged a serial killer. Wtf.

[@buffalobill9793]

I would not be surprised to find out that any of the detectives involved in this case are the same ones that couldn't find the creep in the small community of Delphi that was living right under their nose. They get paid really good money we as the public deserve and should demand better results. I'm done with this and no high fives for the cops from this corner of America. Couldn't even come up with enough to give him the death penalty. Despicable!

[@horsewithnoname8795]

@@buffalobill9793 And what is your contribution to stopping crime and bringing criminals to judgment? You wouldn't be able to do one percent of what those heroes did to stop a killer!

[@datchentai3047]

There are many heroes in this story, but certainly, the scientist who worked tirelessly to devise a technique to detect Pavulon in human tissue is on the very top. Excellent presentation of this case.

[@aca2883]

Those scientists and detectives are saints. There are no words to thank them enough for all their hard work!

[@normanterrault397]

Hard work, sure, murderer comfessess to 200 murders & its still not enough to convict him so FBI let him go to continue killing for another 2+ years while they build a stronger case against him ! You must have a learning disorder to watch a documentary like this one & completely missing the whole point or Maybe your just dumber than a 2nd coat of paint. Either way I don't see how anyone "This Stupid" can have any capacity to fully understand !

[@angellaidley3087]

Sometime u have to look past what u think it is to what’s its not

[@Dianaemanuel888]

So determined and focused 👏🏿

[@oj7487]

Less coruption in the hospital, less problems . It would be more difficult to place him in a prison nowadays.

[@sanjanewmoonlife]

Scientists are mostly killers in the World 🌎🌍

[@queenbulova5682]

I now understand why when people are admitted to the hospital, they ask of their love ones not to leave their bedside.

[@123-u1x8m]

"Love ones" can aslo kill you. In fact most murders are from people we know

[@glendaperkins9231]

Someone should have been concerned about those restraints. Why the nurse didn't go and do a little investigation on those restraints I would have. They found him on the floor that along shows no concern for the patient.

[@gracefullikeagazelle]

You understand nothing about hospitals motormouth. This was an isolated incident, just like restaurant mass murders are isolated incidents. Don't be so stupid.

[@cynthg9547]

I get scared everytime i had sleep over it sucks nobody would stay with me my mom had look after my 3 year old

[@georginacat7667]

@@cynthg9547 what?

[@partlycloudy3519]

This so scary . As a patient in the hospital you automatically put your trust & life that the doctors & nurses & other medical staff are there to heal you & take care of you when you are at your most helpless .

[@saimashapi3819]

Exactly!! I had a horrible experience last year with a botched gallblader removal had to undergo a 2nd surgery now am going for anothr end of June.🇰🇪 they left me to pee on the bed, they took 2hrs later after the surgery to put in antibiotics..i had told them was allergic to penicillin & they still injected me with 4amoxcillin injections. I was taken out of that hospital asap by my friends & b.f. was taken to the 2hospital they found my liver & kidneys were soo infected & they left 3 stones in my pancrease, last yr September had 48hrs to live..Finally was taken to the 3rd hospital & after 4days under went a 2nd surgery. I cudn't believe how some hospitals r just there to sacrifise unsuspecting ill patients!!

[@InshasChoice]

@@saimashapi3819 best wishes! My prayers are with you

[@saimashapi3819]

@@InshasChoice thankb u so much

[@HaidurShah21]

Long gone are the days of Florence Nightingale and a genuine bedside manner .

[@saimashapi3819]

@@HaidurShah21 Amen! Thank u

[@angiehoose4557]

I cannot believe that a guy can confess to a crime, but he can't be arrested without proof. This is shocking!

[@marisamartin3664]

Have him also sign a legal waiver that whatever the punishment is they will accept it. Protects from nuts that confess falsely.

[@savannahtropix615]

Unfortunately & shockingly there are some sick ppl that will confess 2 other ppls crimes & that wud not only mean that the wrong person is locked up but also the real killer is free & can keep killing! 😮

[@rstewa35]

“It took Linda Shorofsky 40 minutes to die.” I couldn’t even imagine. Slowly suffocating and unable to tell anyone. God rest her soul

[@michaeljohnston4459]

Yeah and he supposedly did it to spare them pain. It's infuriating!

[@shellyturner4482]

@@michaeljohnston4459 torture

[@deneshbhaskar3944]

Rest her soul? She's been reincarnated . That's what happens .

[@eduvijesdumpit7383]

@@michaeljohnston4459 gfffdffgfghfggd

[@amartin9293]

God will avenge

[@diaryofarealmom3264]

He’s like the worst of the worst because a hospital is supposed to be the one place you feel safe.

[@H_A_L_7]

Not really, if you think about it....all sorts can happen in a hospital.

[@catherinehazur7336]

DIARY. You have been propagandized. That is not the reality

[@neemamuzungu3942]

The ONLY safest place is in God's hand.

[@Bethany0420]

It's quite the opposite

[@adzgee7]

Nowhere is safe. Not even your own home even if its locked down.

[@lorrainewadsworth9019]

All the staff who worked with him who found drugs in his locker or witnessed 'odd behaviour' are also guilty of neglect for not reporting their findings.

[@invisiblepinkunicorn7626]

Lorraine Wadsworth, that’s what I would think.....I wonder if they actually did, and the hospital shoved it under the rug. I suspect some may well have reported this guy and it was ignored by the people who matter....fear of lawsuits... Sounds like he wasn’t a well liked coworker to begin with. Ugh. I can’t even imagine having to work with someone like that. If I suspected anything I’d be writing reports right and left. (Where I work they are called JEPR’s). There was one person I worked with who I had to write up a few times, ugh, they were basically incompetent. They are gone now, thank goodness.

[@PamelaValemont]

I agree. Those people should also have been charged and disbarred from further service in the medical profession. The name of the hospital: Adventist, is that a 7th Day Adventist Hospital by any chance?

[@invisiblepinkunicorn7626]

Pamela Valemont , I don’t know. I’m not familiar with that area..

[@animeapocolypsesassyrose4365]

@@invisiblepinkunicorn7626 checked and yes, it is "a faith based hospital."

[@lunaazule1899]

@@PamelaValemont Glendale Hospital in Glendale

[@BinoDist]

This is scary. Any time you go to hospital, you could run into someone like this and you wouldn't know what he was injecting into you.

[@GerardVaughan-qe7ml]

These days it's called "vaxxine" - and mandated !!

[@fl_snorkeldork]

It happens a lot to babies as well 😔 so sad. This is why my son never left my room and I refused all injections, ivs, etc.

[@TheLeahGlass]

@@fl_snorkeldork you could do that??. I thought they always have to take the baby

[@fl_snorkeldork]

@@TheLeahGlass Absolutely! That baby doesn't need to leave your chest if you don't want it to! (As long as baby is healthy and doesn't need help breathing, jaundice, etc)

[@macm3081]

You're the type of person who shouldn't watch shows like this.

[@sarair3656]

So unfair to call him "Angel of death" when he is a cold blooded murderer.

[@f.m.m6706]

They always love glamorizing/sensationalizing/romanticizing these killers with fancy names and I’ll never get it

[@davidc3839]

Many of the angels from the bible where evil. Fallen angels !!

[@patriciarowe3431]

ANGEL OF DEATH????? MANY THAT DIED HAD NOT LIFE THREATENING ILLNESSES..THEY WERE RESPONDING TO MEDICATION AND ON THE RECOVERY.......OR SO EXPECTED TO RECOVER.... HOW THEN AN ANGEL OF DEATH??????? MORE SO A DEMON OF DEATH......

[@davidc3839]

@@patriciarowe3431 Lucifer was an angel who turned to the dark side - he fell from heaven. Not all of the bible's angels were good... a fallen angel.

[@bluefidle]

Satan too is a real angel of death. The original one.

[@Amberwood243]

This doctor explaining away the situation should go to jail too. So should every administrator who heard the complaints and did nothing.

[@jturtle5318]

They're more concerned with avoiding lawsuits.

[@Holocaustica]

He was an RT

[@gemmacamarines4481]

That's really the problems in America because people really are free to do whatever they want without being charged right away. It's hard to gather evidence it takes a very honest and devoted agent to do the tasks.

[@alexaann9232]

Malpractice insurance

[@heathercoulter9198]

The only way

[@AnyoneCanSee]

When my dad had terminal cancer I heard a nurse telling him he was going to die and asking him how did it make him feel and it was so obvious she was getting off on the power trip. I spoke to someone and she was not allowed to tell patients they were terminal. I didn't pursue it but it has bothered me ever since as I now know a little more about psychology and I am convinced she was a psychopath by how she told him and kept pushing it, twisting the knife in metaphorically speaking and by how she behaved when he got upset. She was enjoying his pain at his realization he was never leaving that bed and only had days to live.

[@thebarefootfarm5919]

This is horrifying and actually made me feel physically ill reading it. What kind of sicko gets off on someone's fear. My dad died four years ago on the 18th of this month and one of the nurses was do nasty and acted like she hated her job. Little did she know that my stepfather sister who has been with me since Iwas 7 years old (I'm now 42) was her boss. Needless to say we weren't the first complaint against her. It takes a spe ill kind of nurse to deal with end of life patients. I'm so sorry this happened to your father.

[@AnyoneCanSee]

@@thebarefootfarm5919 - I'm sorry your father went through that. In a weird way, the family agreed that it worked out better but it has stayed with me as she is probably doing this to others or worse. In my father's case, my dad had not accepted that he was dying even though the doctors had said there was nothing more they could do he believed he'd somehow beat it. So he was still trying to get people to fix it. It was only after she spelt it out so clearly that he accepted it. It was the only time I ever saw him cry. He had a very difficult childhood during the war, his house was hit with a bomb and there were a lot of death and food shortages and so never showed much emotion. So we took him home and put a hospital bed by the window so he could see his garden and he stopped fighting and being angry at being ill and excepted it was time to make peace. After a few days, he said; "it has been a wonderful life" and passed away. Take care.

[@dinacharlayne1912]

When they hear they're not supposed to do something it's like they do it. Yeah, that doesn't sound very nice.

[@sportsbadcalls334]

Narcissists will do the same. If you have a rash on you they will tell you its AIDS and then go back to their typing.

[@tubewatcher7962]

I hope she got fired. She's sadistic. Doesn't deserve to be a nurse.

[@sandrapowell4166]

These patients were totally helpless and depending on the hospital nurses and doctors for care. They trust us to take care of them and keep them as safe as possible. As and old nurse, I was empathetic and protective of my patients. The cowardly murders of these people, enrage me

[@lorancehack4876]

This is why my family always stays overnight with our loved ones who are recovering. You can't trust anyone 100% even a doctor. Always get a second opinion. Even doctors can be wrong.

[@TheFreddy11023]

Often not allowed. At least not here.

[@yoniboboshov500]

When I was admitted in March 2020 during COVID. No one was allowed to come in. I was so n the ICU alone

[@heather4089]

Some hospitals don’t allow it, when my daughter had her surgery (she was 19) I tried to stay and they wouldn’t allow it.

[@kittyb275]

@@TheFreddy11023 where do you live? I'm in Florida my mom wasn't alone for a moment during her hospital stays. Shocked her doctors. LOL

[@flimcomedy7667]

Just like this there are family members usually women who purposely make their children sick.

[@cateybug123]

Can you imagine dying this way? Seeing, hearing, knowing everything that's going on and slowly feeling yourself suffocate to death? Their heart rate sped up when they were dying. They knew. This man wasn't trying to help them die peacefully. It sounds like an absolute awful way to go. Glad this monster was put away. God bless those families.

[@stevenfernandes7131]

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[@kerenaklom4836]

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[@erdenemashbat3379]

and hearing the word Do Not Resuscitate order as you desperately wanting not to die :(

[@naturalkinkycurlymarie7496]

He was just a Serial Murderer who was killing Patients not helping them peacefully die. They were not in Critical Condition or Suffering from terminal illnesses.

[@tussled1]

Agreed. He didn’t want to actually help anyone except himself. He tortured countless people and it could have been stopped so many times. Shameful.

[@dorawilliams4628]

too many people died , before he was arrested, when you are in the hospital, Kee one eye open and one eye closed, trust no one.

[@lorrainewadsworth9019]

And if you are able to question what meds you are being given or whatever then question.... anything and everything!!!!!

[@dorawilliams4628]

@@lorrainewadsworth9019 listen this is about covet 19, I am not going to take that viccine, they are making it too quick, so I question that, I don't care who take it, I am not going to take it, I don't trust everything man say, only God.

[@OperationFoxley19441]

Like a cat.

[@dorawilliams4628]

@@OperationFoxley19441 like a 🐈, okay.

[@lenakharuk9087]

@@lorrainewadsworth9019 yes, but if that, God forbid, someone like this killer, they would not tell the truth... stay healthy, all!

[@desertparanormal2791]

This man made my father paranoid as a nurse. My Dad was a nurse for 25 years and I distinctly remember him talking about this when I was little.

[@Jdjustsaying]

These were not 'mercy killings', nothing like euthanasia; these patients were often responding well to treatment and may have had a good quality of life ahead of them. He is just a murderer, a mass murderer. He has no cause, no wish for people not to suffer, just a desire to control others completely. 😓

[@LuisaD93]

Janet Donald in other words .... a PSYCHO then 😳

[@anhedonianepiphany5588]

_WTF_ are you referring to?!? The documentary didn't suggest that these were 'mercy killings' at all. In fact, it stated quite the opposite _very clearly._ The POS _did_ use 'mercy killing' as one of his excuses to murder, but he was categorised as an _'angel of death'_ which is clearly contrary to the ethics of euthanasia and assisted dying.

[@Jdjustsaying]

Anhedonian Epiphany wow, someone got out of bed on the wrong side.😒

[@Jdjustsaying]

madmoiselle007 I hope so, I’d much rather that, than the highlight of my week be getting turned to stop my bed sores getting worse. My child will make decisions for me, if need be, with all the love, kindness and compassion that I’ve shown her as her mother. I have no fear of that, or death. 💕☀️

[@sissyrayself7508]

He was and is a narcissist and an EVIL monster.

[@user-co6yw1nk5z]

It blows my mind that he could confess to all those murders but they couldn't hold him longer than 48 hours without finding additional evidence.

[@TheMusicman95382]

Broken system!

[@mrs.dr.spencerreid3992]

K - Sometimes the law seems to protect the purps more than the victims.

[@h.l.phillips3175]

Under such serious circumstances they could have applied for extension period or CALL HIS BLUFF. HISEXPERTISE LAY IN MEDICAL NOT LAW! They could have let him go n immediately rearrested him. Hard on the families. His nonchalant attitude annoying. The nurse should have spoken out sooner,.many of them. You get a sense about a person. I hope medics do keep their eyes open!

[@h.l.phillips3175]

@@mrs.dr.spencerreid3992 correct. And its seriously frustrating for police. Where I live its against the law to film...video police. It endangers their lives. Many work undercover at times etc. But I see in America all the time...disrespectful smart alecs taping officers!!!???? And not cooperating. Very wrong. Who are first you call when you're in trouble?! EXACTLY. Show some respect. And yes they have to play hard ball...they put lives on line daily. Dealing with scumbags etc.And any idiot can buy a gun in America!

[@mrs.dr.spencerreid3992]

H.L. Phillips - I concur.................‼️

[@ei8315]

Common sense says if you find illegal drugs and syringes in a locker of someone who has no business having such drugs, uh, you take that as proof or at least evidence. YOU DON'T keep it quiet. That's just asking for more unnecessary deaths.

[@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty]

Yes the other dr. didn't report it.

[@exposedlights7252]

@@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty it’s because they broke into his locker which would have been a violation itself. Imagine, for example, a off duty police officer breaks into a suspects home and steals a duffel bag he believes was present at the scene of the crime. While this duffel bag may contain everything needed to prove the suspect was guilty, the manner in which the evidence was obtained is problematic. Just like the colleagues that broke into the locker, the police officer would face repercussions that could have damaged his career.-

[@Littleone124]

They weren't supposed to be in his locker which means they could have just as easily planted the drugs there. Not saying that's what happened because we know better after the fact, but it would be highly suspicious if he came forward initially.

[@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty]

@@exposedlights7252 That is one reason that cases take such a long time to solve. They have to be very careful how information is collected...and of course by then some of the criminals have the instinct to ditch evidence and disappear to another location. And people wonder why some politicians and such people are so hard to indict. You can't indict without solid evidence.

[@didarden]

Know ppl have been fired, lost their licenses and been blacked balled for reporting these very things. Not everyone doesn't report. You just dont hear that they have reported.

[@uui219]

It's honestly insane that people knew he was killing people and weren't demanding he be put on paid leave immediately so they could see if that stops the deaths and to conduct a proper investigation. That simple act would have SAVED LIVES.

[@beentheredonethat5908]

Fact! That should have been first! I don't consider myself smarter then most people, average at best, and they would have been my very first action, remove all personal and see if something changed.

[@justsayin5609]

You watch too much tv! Paid leave in a hospital? Never happen!!! That's only in the cop world. Suspension, yes. Paid leave? In your dreams.

[@jojobaja]

@just sayin' yes... hospitals put patients on "administrative leave" in California. Example: Such as in cases if an employee is accused of patient abuse. The employee has to immediately leave the hospital, and is paid while the investigation goes on. For real.

[@iriscollins7583]

@@jojobaja How many times does the need for paid leave come up, for the hospital administration to not put nurses on it, if there is an enquiry? A nurse reported what is an horrific situation, the powers to be ignore her.talk about Fred Karno.

[@GerardVaughan-qe7ml]

@@iriscollins7583 "Inquiry" !!

[@jhoolzliagon8984]

Hospital officials all they care is their reputation and disregard the safety of their patients. They should report doctors or nurses found with criminal acts to protect everyone.

[@NickyM_0]

No, when staff raise the alarm ie whistleblow, the hospital gets rid of them and no hospital will hire them.

[@bubble5335]

@@NickyM_0 you are ABSOLUTELY correct

[@Maven0666]

They should listen to the patients.

[@kathismith7441]

Totally agree. All he has to do is move to a different state which is how he kept getting away with it. Big corps have a lot to lose.

[@kathismith7441]

Hospitals were suspicious of him but did nothing because they were afraid of law suits. So when complaints were made they just fired him. And didn’t report him.

[@CG-dz9fl]

Well done detectives for their relentless hard work and to that doctor for his relentless quest to find a way to test for this drug in the dead bodies. 👏 👏 👏

[@kellymcgregor-nagle1918]

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[@marklittler784]

Looks to me he was a risk to the public in that type of environment otherwise he wasn't if he went into a different environment like dental nurse or school nurse this would have siezed. Its another case where jailing isn't serving much of a purpose especially when he thought he was merely helping people.

[@DEBRACRANFORD]

I was at the Glendale hospital many times during the years he was killing. I was there to train Respiratory Therapists to work extra shifts at a long term facility. It was my job to hire the RTs and follow them through clinicals. I did this for 8 hospitals. When this man was arrested it was shocking to everyone in the medical field. The arrest was handled with kid gloves. So the hospital wasn’t inadvertently be found to hide a monster. I did meet him for an interview but at the time put him down as a possible employee due to having enough already on hand. That was my only interaction with him. The 2 medications he used were paralyzing agents. One paralyzed the patient and the other caused a comatose state. As I said, I remember the shock of his crimes more than I remember him. I would like to point out…that the Intensive Care Unit and the Telemetry floors are typically the only floors that monitor hearts. In his case he could have caused many, many more deaths then what he was accused of.

[@dahlenepretorius4380]

Why didn't they install cameras once they suspected foul play?

[@juliemclain5841]

Seriously?

[@laurenbaker8803]

It was horrifying how long it took someone to die while they suffered like that. Suffocating has always been my worst fear. We had to take a family member off of life support. There was a big meeting with the entire family and the doctor clearly explained how they do it so the person doesn’t feel “ air hunger “ . It’s done gradually with a lot drugs to counteract that. Someone was with that family member that whole time and at some point the breathing became more shallow.

[@symbolaiografosnontas5911]

Αληθεια ,εαν νοσηλευοταν εκει η μητερα ,ο πατερας, η το παιδι σας κ συνεβαινε κατι τετοιο σ αυτους.Πως θ αντιδρουσατε.....???? Απορω....

[@deeprollingriver52]

As a 40 year RN nurse educator, I can tell you: RARELY does anyone just up and die without symptoms foretelling their decline. Problem is, these symptoms are rarely seen, identified, and acted on appropriately. I taught nurses. I’ve seen this lack of situational awareness over and over again.

[@thatgirlnamedcarol8268]

😢This is so sad to hear!!! 😢

[@radicalmoderate2730]

What kind of hospital is this? The doctor that found all the drugs in the dudes locker and didn't' say anything. That right there makes him just as culpable.

[@horsewithnoname8795]

If the symptoms are not seen, identified and addressed appropriately is because most nurses are either poorly trained or overwhelmed with work. In August of 2022 I was in the hospital for an illness: whenever I pushed the call button it took a nurse assistant (not even a nurse) an average of 20 minutes just to respond to the call and another 20 to show up; between shift changes 2 hours before anyone would come into my room and find out if I were dead or alive! The biggest problem hospitals have theses days is lack of qualified nurses, and nurses are scarce because colleges INTENTIONALLY do not graduate many. I think it's about time that colleges and universities stop the cohort system which severely limits the number of nursing students allowed in the program each year and begin to implement a system that allows as many students to attend nursing courses as any other major. Additionally, the cohort system, because of the way it's designed, expels a student from the program for failing (or passing with a low score) just one course instead of giving him/her the opportunity to retake that course, forcing that student to have to start the program again the following year, thus waisting precious time. And that is IF there is room in the following year program since usually other students, who were on the waiting list to enter the program, have priority. Therefore, considering the low chances of getting back into the program, most students quit nursing altogether and choose another field. This system is not practical and has to change.

[@jeanninelavigne5485]

Terrible

[@amartin9293]

@@horsewithnoname8795 You can blame politicians who used Covid to force vaccines and other draconion controls on medical staff. I have nurse friends and other medical staff who quit along with 1000s in Washington state.

[@Zenbee723]

I lived 5 miles from this hospital during this time. My daughter was treated as an outpatient, and my ex husband overnight. Although I regularly monitored local news, I never heard a whiff of this story at the time 🥺.

[@TinaFivesten]

Nowadays all wrongs are treated as right...

[@brega6286]

Just like this "documentary" ....not telling where this happened !!!

[@brega6286]

Call the name out !!

[@chieindah4076]

The longest serial killers I have ever watched, the most heroic detective and police I have ever known in my life...

[@Amy-qo6xf]

This was the most extensive report on this person then I’ve heard on other programs. Well done.

[@cottoncandy4486]

As an ICU clinical nurse I was always sat in a position where I could see all the patients. Anybody else would have been noticed. Later I became a nurse educater and warned all students to watch watch watch all patients in ICU especially those in recovery. Things can change so fast. Not thinking of anything like this.

[@jae6335]

Aren't all ICU nurses clinical nurses?

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

As a nurse I am mortified by this story ! And I’m very disturbed that so many healthcare professionals had found medications and suspicious behavior and didn’t report it !!!! Shameful ! And the thought of this evil monster and was released after his confession……sickening 👹 Edit:now I’m to the part of the story where a nurse knew what he was doing !!!!! Unbelievable 🤯

[@awesomepawsome3214]

As a nurse you are probably aware of what a psychopath is. I am not sure if you have ever come across one but by the character references given by his co workers, he was not easy to get on with and I bet he played mind games with them. They were probably afraid and gaslit 🤷💖

[@meridole565]

This won’t happen now because controlled drugs are being kept in a locked emergency trolley and a safe deposit box,wherein the key is being put on a necklace and be worn by the shift nurse team leader and it will be accounted before and after shift by 2 nurses, the team leader and the nurse supervisor, no one can access the cart except the one who has the key.

[@nocturnalsmartest8823]

They knew that the morgue was just near haha

[@CatScreenTime]

@@meridole565 There are several cases of where the person who has the key is the one who is guilty.

[@tina-xp3pk]

You dont have to be a nurse to Think that.

[@aldoradoalgeriano7560]

These investigators should receive the Nobel prize for their gigantic work.

[@michaelbensonjr1124]

L)

[@Holytitmouse]

For doing their jobs?

[@berthaantoinettamason9207]

They were ready to dismiss the claim when they realized there was a love triangle.

[@cosmiccandy8704]

Dr Brian Andreesen is such a wonderful man. He gave a year of his life to find a test for pancuronium in cadavers to help put that monster behind bars. I couldn't find much online about him but I hope he was duly awarded for his work. Him and the tireless work of law enforcement deserve credit. I have choice words for some of the healthcare staff who kept silent when serious behavioural concerns were displayed by this killer but I'll keep those to myself.

[@electramoseley-mize7003]

Why would you keep the Truth to yourself an.ppl need to know?!!!!

[@yussufabdi625]

Wise words couldn’t agree more

[@sandysamuelman9205]

When I worked at the hospital I saw several cases of a provider doing wrong, nurses or medical staff would tell HR and summarily be fired the hospital I worked at protected providers as well as themselves in situations. This was back in the 90s I hope things have gotten better but somehow I doubt it.

[@stfuplsok]

@@electramoseley-mize7003 *and

[@yvonnegrassi9219]

@@sandysamuelman9205 yep. I also put my job on the line when I reported a nurse for stealing narcotics. I was the one who got in trouble for reporting it. In fact I got a 3 day suspension. They said I had no proof. But I did. I saw all the pills in a plastic box in her purse when she got something out of her purse. They told me that they couldn’t demand to see what was in her purse, and by the time they could that the pills would be gone. So I’m the one that suffered by not getting paid for 3 days while I was on suspension for reporting. She quit shortly after and they never did anything to her. From then on, I decided I would just call the police if I ever saw anything like that again. Hopefully, she didn’t keep stealing narcotics after that somewhere else but I bet she did. She was probably an addict.

[@moments_with_jas1814]

Thanks

[@judywallace3701]

I believe the nurses who were aware of what this psychopathic killer was doing and failed to report this heinous behavior should also be held accountable and should be punished. People generally fear going to hospitals this demonstrates their fears

[@FlowerGirlMy]

exactly

[@samanthacooke8098]

ABSOLUTELY, sad very few in 2023, have the courage😢

[@CanMoose]

Ain't THAT the truth!

[@CanMoose]

​@@samanthacooke8098their courage would have them lose their jobs and livelihood, and they'd face severe persecution.

[@arielasgedom3242]

I agreed

[@anon4041]

How could someone be so cruel. When we go to the hospital, we trust these people with our lives and that they will do anything they can to get us healthy again. This man said he wanted to ease his workload... these are human beings! That shouldn't have died this way. Hospital staff should have been fired that lied.

[@geodesie7447]

Everybody at the hospital kinda knew about this guy, the management had been informed and nothing had been done about it. His co-workers had to take it upon themselves to protect their patients. First, that guy warned him off his patient, then the lady colleague who knew about him (he had confessed to her), told him: "Leave her (as in, her patient) alone". But other than a number of individual initiatives, he was let to kill for fear that the hospital would suffer. It seems to me that even the police were more scared of his confession than of his acts. Fortunately, the media found out. Nowadays, with the state the media is in, even that would be without much consequence.

[@D-me-dream-smp]

Hospitals decisions are frequently financially based or else protecting their reputation to avoid the possibility of a law suit. There was a tragic case where a paediatric nurse who had killed multiple children but to protect themselves they simply forced her to resign and recommended her to another facility so she wasn’t their responsibility again.

[@debbieobryan5607]

This is a shock, how dreadful to have so many people die and no investigation properly done by the hospital.

[@derrickhopioh]

As , they said there is high chance of getting away with murder if it is by poison.

[@animalsnature8533]

Thanks to all the investigation team for your sacrifices of working hard to find the murderer evidence. 👍

[@alcuardandclaudekickass6037]

Evelyn should be fired and have her liscene removed. You know hes doing it to the point you warn him to leave your patients alone, but you let him do it to others.... She could have stopped him and she didnt.

[@tangogent]

I agree! What was wrong with these people's ETHICS and SOCIAL CONSCIENCE?!?!

[@joannbowden6220]

As a retired nurse/paramedic here's a word to the wise: NEVER, EVER LEAVE A LOVED ONE ALONE IN A HOSPITAL!!! Ur welcome.

[@beaulieuc8910]

Good point. Even road crash victims etc shouldn't be left alone with a paramedic, have heard some paramedics stealing from victims like rings and money. Saying that many hospital staff steal rings and money from elderly hospital patients.

[@salliegallegos918]

Today after Covid you have no choice.

[@Atarah-t9v]

@@beaulieuc8910 … My brother is disabled, and was a victim of stabbing. He had $200 grocery money in his wallet. When the paramedics cut off his pants, they kept his wallet, and it was never found. Basically the paramedics covered up for each other.

[@marcosromero4988]

My Grandma was cut off by his funny!??’ Wife and son. I sleep with her for weeks. They kicked me out and then Me GM died.

[@jacobgill4808]

The second death weird death should put the hospital on full alert

[@johngraham3475]

These detectives were top notch. To say that proving or disproving the suspect's guilt is a win shows they weren't necessarily after a conviction, but wanted the TRUTH. If all detectives saw things this way, we'd have a lot fewer innocent people sitting in prison.

[@cornell833]

So true

[@hawaiigirl8089]

They took an awfully long time

[@sister1828]

Very sad story, I am saddened for all the families. Prayers to all .

[@sister1828]

Unfortunately,very true when found innocent,years in jail that destroyed their lives.Lord bless them and give them a good and peaceful life

[@bucci9938]

I couldn't even start to imagine how horrible it was when the woman took 40 mins to die. Her heart was strong and totally aware of everything but just that she couldn't move a muscle and all she could do was die slowly in extreme fear.

[@kayk.d.noonoo]

I know its easier said than done. The victims family should have requested an autopsy.

[@bucci9938]

@@kayk.d.noonoo ...Yes, I also agree because the death came too suddenly and there should be an answer.

[@lindahouston9331]

That is so horribly cruel!

[@erdenemashbat3379]

Lesson learned I would never wish to do not resuscitate order for me..

[@laurarobertson5814]

@@kayk.d.noonoo Did you not realize as stated in the video that the drug would NOT be detected in cadavers prior to this? That is why Dr Brian Andresen created the process and protocol to detect it. Without this, the police would not have had evidence specific to Saldivar and his crimes.

[@daringmore6892]

I love this Narrator's voice! It is a very on the edge type of inflection and sound he brings to his recording work. It adds another element of intrigue definitely.

[@user-tw2gz4eh5c]

I believe it’s Peter Thomas, who also narrated Forensic Files.

[@racheldass9043]

I AGREE HE IS ABSULUTELY FANTASTIC, ICONIC VOICE

[@yoliswambebe619]

🤔

[@muurisoras5878]

Unfortunately he died...his voice was intriguing!

[@vickihough6060]

I believe narrator is Anthony Call. Could be wrong though.

[@marianrobinson4082]

My daughters stayed with me 24/7 when I was in the hospital. So glad they did

[@garpikemike1]

They stayed with you on the 24th of July? That was nice of them for sure!

[@marianrobinson4082]

mike Lazembie no. 24 hours, 7 days a week

[@RebeccaJayne5x5]

I have never been in hospital and felt the need for my family around me twenty four seven (I have been in hospital a lot after a car accident) I have always felt very safe and incredibly well looked after tbh my family and any other patients would have been in the way of the nurses doing a wonderful job, things like this are rare that is why they make the news, I can’t say I even thought about cases like this I was too unwell for most of it,

[@marianrobinson4082]

The Bow Street Stunner 5x5 there was a man down the hall, begging someone to come help him. He had to pee. No one came on time, so now you know what happened

[@garpikemike1]

@@RebeccaJayne5x5 not that theyd ve in the way but when youre in hosputal its nice to have a little aline time too.

[@bizbarley74]

Had a situation like this out in NJ back in the 90s and early 2000s, I had heard about it vaguely when the nurse was arrested, but was young and did not pay much attention to it. I believe he was charged with 29 murders but is believed to have killed up to 400+. Recently Netflix made both a documentary and a movie about the case. What messed me up the most, aside from the belief he might have killed over 400 people, was that all the hospitals he worked at knew, most of the staff suspected, and if he had not broken down and confessed, he would have kept on going, hospital to hospital, murder after murder, no end in sight. All because the hospitals don't want a scandal and lawsuits. Money....

[@agneshouessou9765]

😢True.

[@TrangNguyen-sz6xh]

Oh really how could he do it for that such long time to kill 400 people unbelievable he shouldn’t be a nurse

[@bizbarley74]

@@TrangNguyen-sz6xh agreed, mass murderers should not be working in health care. Nor should hospital employees that enable them. Netflix made a movie about him called the Good Nurse, and there are also various documentaries if you have further interest.

[@wandacornellcornell1814]

I WONDER HOW MANY WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUITS WERE FILED AGAINST THE HOSPITAL'S WHERE HE WORKED BY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO BELIEVED THEIR LOVED ONES WERE VICTIMS OF THIS MONSTER ? SOME OF THE VICTIMS IN THIS STORY SEEMED QUITE YOUNG OR MIDDLE AGED THAT COULD HAVE HAD MANY MORE YEARS LEFT TO LIVE. MY DAD DIED QUITE YOUNG ONLY 62 EVEN IF HE HAD BEEN 92 I WOULDN'T WANT A HR OR DAY LESS STOLEN FROM ME TO SPEND WITH HIM.IF TIME SPENT WAS JUST BEING AT HIS BEDSIDE HOLDING ON TO HIM.AS MY DADDY WAS PASSING I CRAWLED UP IN THE HOSPITAL BED AND LAYED BESIDE HIM HOLDING HIIM AS HE PASSED AWAY.I WOULD NEVER WANT THAT TIME STOLEN AWAY FROM ME OR MY DADDY.

[@sailormeo]

@@TrangNguyen-sz6xh The hospitals he worked at didn’t want to be involved in a scandal and have their reputation affected by the public learning they had a serial killer working there and killing patients

[@honestlyme4247]

I hope Nurse Evelyn was fired. Nurses are suppose to be the patient’s advocate and she ignored a dangerous person. Who does that? 😡

[@RIVANZORA]

Makes you wonder if she was threated to stay silent or just loved the guy

[@minionbeck7215]

I was a whistleblower in a hospital as a student nurse. I was dismissed and my career was ruined... it can be difficult to risk everything

[@rockclimbingskills]

The penisinmymouth If you saw anything other than the pen is in my mouth your a very naughty person.

[@tauresattauresa7137]

Jailed, not just sacked.

[@joanne2992]

There are so many that should be fired ...to the very top of the hospital

[@pamelahinchee8012]

For a change, really impressive work by this investigative and forensic teams. Using scientific principles to maintain consistency and for keeping careful track of the tissue samples to ensure no chance of contamination. Great Job. Wish this level of integrity happened more often.

[@cheesethekoala8756]

Well I can tell you it's the standard in education in forensics. I took one 1st year forensics course, out of curiosity, the whole chain of custody thing was very complex and specific and I didn't get a great grade overall on the course because I failed to undertand just how important that was. This was a 1st year course, I imagine it continues to be incredibly important in upper years if not more

[@heatherhogan1114]

It was wonderful to see all that hard work and long hours pay off for the devoted detectives and the doctor who gave up his life for a while to come up with that test. Awesome job to all. I wish all law enforcement cared like they did...💯

[@augustvukosovich4683]

I wish too. If this much time and energy went in to all murder cases, we would have very few unsolved murders, yet we have thousands.

[@melaniekathleen4098]

@@augustvukosovich4683 not true. Sometimes the case runs cold. Everything is done. There's just simply not enough information to pinpoint the culprit. If you don't like how it's done, you can always go and be a detective and solve all these cases!

[@mattrockets2295]

@@melaniekathleen4098 sooooo true

[@davidsoucy8288]

“Nuggets hf David I ​@@mattrockets2295 we can

[@ninalee8705]

They didn't care they just wanted a big case And media headlines so they could get a pat on the back the police cares about Noone

[@jayj7581]

I believe the hospital killed my Mom by negligence, but very hard to challenge & prove. They refused the autopsy. You almost never win medical malpractice. May she rest peacefully.

[@lightwave9588]

IF you are in Canada, yes they kill the patients because they cost money for government.

[@jayj7581]

@@lightwave9588 I'm inUSA, but during covid. She was negative but I'm sure they benefit somehow

[@teecop4735]

The hospital almost killed me two times one stay and it’s one of the best largest hospitals in out country USA 🇺🇸, when my husband he caught BOTH huge mistakes asked a nurse what would happen to a patient who didn’t have a hound dog like him to take care of them ? The nurses words were chilling she said “ GOD HELP THEM “. We make mistakes like these every day one out of nine people could die just by the care . Now that was before Covid .

[@beentheredonethat5908]

I'm so sorry! I'd strongly suggest not giving up, go after them! Everyday more and more evidence comes out of them ALLOWING people to die, not treating or even causing the situation in the first place! Every covid death in a hospital during tge first year brought the hospital 100k for each death certificate that said covid related! They wanted those numbers up! Please be relentless, they can't take more them surface level searches at bay. Thousands of people have found evidence, won lawsuits quietly, but some have chosen to say no to money and fight it out, please fight until the end, we need media to report, although half our media is now state media, we do have some who still report. Scream from the moutain tops, get justice for her.

[@shelliebancroft4145]

I also believe the hospital kill my nephew was also killed. They refused to do x-rays on his lungs with him having breathing issues 7 days later. They did the x-rays on his lungs to find he had double pneumonia. What I found strange was the fact that the ICU doctor kept telling my sister he would not make it through, and he wanted my sister to not resuscitate him. That statement said all I needed to know that this doctor dose not care for his patience. I did not feel safe thereafter his remarks and even inform my sister that I believe this doctor is going to kill your son. My nephew started improving and was on the road to recovery then less than 72 hours later he is vented within 10 hours after that is giving medicine within one minute after that is gone. I believe the medicine the doctor told the nurses to give was to stop his heart.

[@CC-watches]

This is exactly like the case of British nurse Beverly Allitt. She increased the insulin levels of babies and was either there to save them immediately or there to watch them die. One couple trusted her enough with their sick child to name her godmother. Both cases were similar too in the way they were able to determine that she was guilty. Both professionals were always located where and present when deaths occurred on their wards.

[@Amberwood243]

C C well not exactly.

[@jordanthomas7702]

@@Amberwood243 No, but similar enough dude. Don't be pedantic. They were both nurses who decided to kill their patients on their wards and shifts.

[@julietbrave1182]

Beverly Allitt wasn't even a qualified nurse

[@thatgirlnamedcarol8268]

WTF?!?!? 🤬 😢 How heart wrenching to know those poor innocent babies never had a chance to grow, learn, experience life!! 😢 (I’m not dismissing any of the other victims that died in such a horrific way) It takes a special kind of psychopath to find joy and the feeling of superior to do this to tiny babies that never had a chance to experience the joys of life they deserved to live! 😢My heart cry’s out loud for all the innocent individuals who’s life was taken away!!!!! 😢

[@hectorbrown656]

@@julietbrave1182 you are wrong she was a qualified nurse.

[@laurareeves8209]

I was an RN prior to having to retire, I really admire the perseverance and the knowledge of what would occur. My heart breaks over people who lost loved ones who had suddenly died without a reason!

[@rosemarydudley9954]

Laura Reeves...I correct what you said...These people dies WITH a reason....not as you said - WITHOUT a reason...

[@damiantaffetaffe1436]

@@rosemarydudley9954 was

[@joanodom2104]

The REASON they died was a human one...they were preyed upon by an evil, narcissistic MURDERER who badly overestimated his level of intelligence.

[@999h_ago]

@@rosemarydudley9954 I correct what you said. It is "DIED" not "DIES"

[@andybricks576]

Die without a reason?? What the?

[@KimF1]

This is horrifying beyond belief. But any of the "medical professionals" who didn't report what they saw in regards to this psycho are almost equally responsible. 😠

[@doreenwhitehead4224]

They are as culpable if not worse. Retired Nurse retired.

[@KimF1]

@@doreenwhitehead4224 - You're right. Those people weren't insane, just cowards.

[@georgiaamanatides4207]

Sadly, there is always retaliation to reporters even though you are told it's confidential. It never is. So, unless you have concrete evidence and if how you ovtained it violates hospital policy...be prepared to be black listed at best or financially ruined at worst.

[@jacquelinesmith934]

Look at what Cuomo did, the nurses does raptor the hospital knew everybody knew what Cuomo did and he got away with murder and the rest of them murdered those poor people to

[@GerardVaughan-qe7ml]

How is it I missed all the "medical professionals" "keeping quiet" ?

[@robinmills5643]

What a scary sick individual. And Lorie Park, you're absolutely right. That one RT saw all the drugs in Saldivars locker, AND WAS AFRAID HE'D GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT !!!!. oh give me a break!! People were dying in that unit, most of them under Saldivars watch?? And they even suspected him of killing patients?? They should have gone straight to the cops!! To me the other RTs that suspected him are equally as guilty as Saldivar for at least a few of those murdered patients!!! And may those murdered patients rest in peace.

[@yvonnegrassi9219]

Yep. See something, say something.

[@geofryotieno4318]

As a doctor and i can confirm these detectives had a very hard time going through all those files with the medical terms...good thing is that it paid off

[@gaiaiulia]

A crash course in medicine for the detectives there.

[@bigwengz914]

@@gaiaiulia medicine for dummies

[@vondacrane6762]

If it was paper charting goodluck Dr's handwriting is hard to read.

[@symbolaiografosnontas5911]

Ως απλος ανθρωπος σας ερωτω.Εαν την μητερα σας η το παιδι σας με τετοιον τροπο,ποια θα ηταν η αντιδραση σας....????

[@taherachoudhury1434]

It mind boggles me how it's so hard to put away someone who is obviously guilty yet a lot of innocent people are so easily wrongfully charged.

[@berlyngrey9242]

Our so called justice system is extremely flawed. Heinous crimes such as rape and murder can get someone less time than drug/paraphernalia possession.

[@kannnbabyyy2121]

Exactlyyy!!!!

[@veronicawilson5814]

I had a conman fraudulently steal my house, take out loans in my name, destroyed, looted my flip house and all they did was kick him out of the house. He should have gone to federal prison, paid me back the $200,000 he was given a judgment for and cops protected him. I was treated like the bad one. Not only did the cops not help they harassed me.

[@taherachoudhury1434]

@@veronicawilson5814 😲 that's horrible!!

[@Terrencetulani]

Try it if you are black and a man to women who are white

[@ritagoforth2317]

I guess every state is different, but I come from a medical background and I don't understand why he had access to half the drugs he had. He should have been reported after the discovery in his locker!!

[@publicdomain6607]

Touch: Zoom.com

[@Kinkle_Z]

Pavulon can be used to start an airway which RTs do so why would that be suspicious?

[@dianedureau4431]

Yes, there are strict controls on medications. An exception might be a SNF.

[@caymanhilldesigns453]

100% the locker should have been the end of it period. This is crazy how it continued.

[@ritagoforth2317]

@@caymanhilldesigns453 Thank you!❤️

[@maxortega4690]

I remember when I was in the local community college R.N. program, I had the most patients pass away. My father was in the oncology ward at the hospital when I was a student there. It was hard enough seeing patients deteriorate, and die. Some elderly people having come in for simple surgeries, fallen and ended up passing. I couldn't imagine someone killing people who you've been entrusted to care for.

[@mcshortnfat8099]

I was put in ICU to monitor my blood sugar. I was on camera at times. My husband was allowed to bring me food as long as it followed very strict coloric, carb, suga limits. The meals were checked by the rn before I was given it to eat. There were no incidents. During routine draws after my sugar bottomed out and D50 was pushed they were finding artificial insulin in my blood. We were confronted by an endocrinologist who gave us the results. I was terrified. Someone was intentional giving me insulin. The initial accusation was that my husband was trying to kill me. I was enraged at that allegation. They then suggested that I was doing it to myself. I tols them the were crazy. That i was bed bound, never owned insulin and couldn't possibly have done it. My husband and I were certain this was a witch hunt. We signed out ama (against medical advice) and we went to another hospital, using a different endocrinologist. We never had the issue again. We're absolutely certain that one of the nursing staff had to alter either the saliine drips or any hospital food I received. I believe I would have been killed had we chosen to stay there. 4 diabetic comes from a non diabetic in 72 hours is a huge red flag. If you're able, ask the medicine being given, by whom, and why. Be your biggest advocate.

[@joanbaczek2575]

Which hospital?

[@mojojo1980]

The husband would never ever do anything.....right 🤔

[@mcshortnfat8099]

@@mojojo1980 No, my husband would never do anything to hurt me. As someone who is completely disabled, he's saved my life several times and continues to be my primary caregiver, in addition to working full time, takes care of our home, and the 3 kids (minors at the time). He can easily let my disabilities take their course. My husband is a good man. It's easy for people to point the finger at the person closest to people, when they do that they are missing the chance to figure out what really happened.

[@janebailey8032]

Thank God you got out of there!! My mother ended up with an unnecessary permanent colostomy bag and nearly died. The Dr. wasn't even a board certified physician. This happened in a small town in the midwest and if she'd been taken anywhere else, it wouldn't have happened according to other physicians.

[@mcshortnfat8099]

@@janebailey8032 I'm so sorry to hear that! I hope she's doing well now and recovering.

[@noop4073]

If the hospital had cameras in the ICU rooms it would've been quicker to solve.

[@DevonDumpling123]

Breanna Sacchetti yes I see that but you are on show in ITU anyway in a ward they should be checked only when there is a need and only by very senior staff

[@samuelgamato971]

Just in the hallways

[@JaneDoe-c]

Some hospitals have cameras in individual patient rooms in the ICU and neuro units for remote monitoring. I've seen them.

[@susansehorn2412]

Thank God for HIPPA LAWS !

[@Sandra-dz9co]

@@JaneDoe-c True, in the hospitals I've been in each patient is monitored on video in ICU.

[@Roedygr]

Hospital rooms should have surveillance cameras. It could also detect thefts.

[@danielsnow8581]

omg i was thinking befor you said it .or all who works at nite or should have body cameras just saying.

[@skuzlebut82]

When you hear this specific narrator, you know you're in for a great story.

[@kellyobrien9350]

Even if it was a sad story 💔

[@LadyAngela678]

Im surprise his co-workers didnt catch onto this sooner. As a nurse I can tell the quality of my co-workers care, and if one had people always dying I would report them to management.

[@ashcacheem9074]

People don't realize how many people in the medical field are pure evil. For whatever reason, either entering that way, becoming burnt out over time or however, this is one of the highest paying jobs in some areas and alot more people than you realize value money over human life. There's way more of these people out there than you think especially in the field of the most vulnerable, pediatrics geriatrics and the mentally ill/disabled and icu patients🙏💔

[@ruthgiles8926]

This applies particularly to the medical field in the US. The system is not the same world wide.

[@MissClemintine]

I find most who work in the medical field halfway civil to the patients but horrible to each other…

[@SaWilliam]

The fact that he confessed to murders and were set free from lack of evidence is the reason we need to revise the law

[@Holytitmouse]

You really want them to revise the first amendment? Really?

[@enyce120]

@@Holytitmouse 87⁷⁷

[@janebailey8032]

God help us. Can you imagine not having the right to remain silent? It's all the people who looked the other way that is just staggering!!!

[@dibrentley7915]

a lot of people confess to things they didnt do. Its called mental illness. Maybe there should be a half way point where they do let him go but with a ankle tracer or something .

[@1mol831]

You should leave your country if you want to revise the fundamental laws.

[@parroteyes4me]

Thanks!

[@angelaberni8873]

So many people knew of this but said nothing !!!! They should ALL feel Extremely guilty. This is all too shocking for words !!!

[@jen5138]

You're right! to be an enabler is to be guilty also..

[@joaquin3106]

You should call the FBI

[@janebailey8032]

They should all lose their licenses and do some jail time!

[@mariee.5912]

Not even the detectives could keep in in jail. Not even with a confession.

[@jenniferormsby7595]

I blame the hospital for letting it go so far the signs were there nine years come on

[@soapqueen3335]

Spot on👍

[@glendaperkins9231]

They rather spread rumors than check his past and get him out of their. At least he'd be gone while they do the investigation. Also the hospital should ask the cops to inject a undercover to watch Saldivar and catch him. Instead they allow him to keep injecting patients.

[@brookebickley6873]

That's a pretty long time, bit concerning really

[@sebxiou-lifestyle4465]

I agree with you, too.

[@Janevelyn]

I blame the incredibly evil mass murderer.

[@xoxowena]

I've seen many cases of doctors killing patients and a running theme seems to be hospitals not wanting to do anything because they're afraid of being sued by the patients. The hospitals knew he was doing this when they fired him and still gave him a recommendation for the next hospital, he just kept being enabled over and over

[@me.4970]

That is called white previlledged

[@FlutePlayer777]

@@me.4970 He's not white. So stop with the racial comments all over the place.

[@rosedrumgoole4585]

Nothing to do with colour of skin 😫

[@cw2497]

That's when the original hospital who saw the problem in the first place should get a lawsuit and criminal charges!

[@meronono3]

"we were talking about golf and then he told me effron killed a patient with his magic syringe"... Nonchalantly! They are all in the wrong and it's disgusting. It's a pure case of "oh he's a doctor, he'll never do that", as if doctors are angels.

[@krmccarrell]

Wow, what a story! Just watching this program has rendered me exhausted just thinking about all the work that was involved collecting evidence to bring this man to justice. my hats off to all the detectives and the doctors involved!!!

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

Isn't Evelyn Abrams an accomplice? She knew what he was doing but did nothing to stop him.

[@boogiemonstermom677]

I think they mentioned briefly that they gave her immunity in return for her cooperation. Don't quote me, but I can almost swear they said that. It was very quick.

[@CC-watches]

Douglas Hamilton Do you mean an accomplice?

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

​@@CC-watches Yes, sorry despite my name I'm Swedish and occasionally misspell words :)

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

@@boogiemonstermom677 Yes they did. My question is more on a moral level. If she had talked she could have saved many lives..

[@doneldamacdonnell8602]

BoogieMonster Mom .... yes, they said limited immunity.

[@ambermurphy3420]

Even though this isn't nearly at this scale of crime, I worked as a Dietary Aid/CNA for about 4-5 years at Apple Rehab, roughly between 2016-2021. For the nurses and doctors around Efren Saldivar, who saw things that were weird, who saw drugs hidden around, and kept secret? That scarily happens all the time. The amount of times I've personally seen a CNA or a nurse either harm, leave a patient in an unsafe condition or ignored a patient in need, or walk into work high, smoke in the facility (which isn't allowed), ect, and nothing was done. Between those 5 years, I've have made formal reports to HR and DHP (Department of Health Professions). But because everyone would get a warning the day/night before that the DHP were coming, everyone would snap into place, and nothing would be done.

[@edithjohnson8235]

This happens all w time, medical people are trained to look the other way

[@desertflowers1]

Most hospitals are severely short staffed. They won’t fire you unless you are ridiculously horrible or disliked by management

[@thatgirlnamedcarol8268]

😮WTF?!?!?🤬

[@catalinacurio]

And I’ll bet people who spoke up were bullied.

[@zarabee2880]

@@desertflowers1 usually get promoted

[@spacewitchvulcan]

So... being in someones locker and finding a bag stuffed with controlled substances is more illegal than what you've found?! Even if it was illegal, how do you convince yourself that ignoring that is the right thing to do?! Report what you find, take the blame for your part, knowing you may have been doing the wrong thing - but luckily, you came across something waaaay more concerning. Where is the logic?! How did this doctor pass the American equivalent of the HPAT?!

[@reviewiaid6432]

How would you prove that those drugs are used to murder someone? How would you make sure that the nurse lose his permit and not able to move counties to do it all over again? He did tip the hospital and told the police and the police used a warrant to look into the locker. They all did everything they legally could.

[@spacewitchvulcan]

@@reviewiaid6432 it's been 6 months since I watched this video. I can't remember the exact details.

[@pamelahinchee8012]

I thought the same thing. Yes, his instincts about the guy were valid but he definitely should have taken action regardless of how it made him look. Shame on that Doctor. Everyone plays CYA.

[@reviewiaid6432]

@@spacewitchvulcan what im saying is, to accuse someone of a lethal crime, you have to have a strong proof so that theyre not punish lightly so that they can repeat the same or worse offense

[@kimclarke5018]

He was a fellow respiratory therapist. But they should have reported what they found in a locker. Any controlled substance found in a locker of any employee would for sure get them suspended while it’s being investigated .

[@angelfrankenfine]

when my mother was in the ICU for months at a time, my dad and I took shifts to always be there with her every second. what a monster.

[@jasoncoleman2797]

That's how my whole family is whenever anybody's in the hospital someone is there every second.. that's just dirty and evil...

[@vanessapierce231]

It was nice to hear of your family loyalty.

[@ifeyjenny]

Same when my mum was in hospital too me and my 3 brothers took turns, although she later passed but my greatest joy was that she was looked after even in ICU.

[@stevetheaxe]

And now we aren't allowed to be with our loved ones in hospital. Imagine what someone like this could get away with now.

[@vanessapierce231]

@@stevetheaxe it's been going on all along this particular quack just got caught.

[@elisaben3120]

This nurses who knew and heard and didn't Alert their superior should be held accountable

[@rsmith7589]

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[@cristineconnell7803]

I fortunately had 1 coworker I could trust to help me uncover gross negligence, etc. & fortunately a boss who backed me up!

[@elizabethbrock8654]

@@cristineconnell7803 I am so glad you had positive backup!

[@allahlovesyou7241]

Hundreds of patients lost their lives....they waited for too long... They shouldn't have let him work their after his confessions or after him admitting to the doctor... But they waited so he killed many other patients... 😔 That's horrible for the patients and their loved ones !!!

[@sandrapowell4166]

Other staff who said quiet are also are at blame for those deaths

[@MYRIAMLATEUR]

That hospital did everything to save its reputation.... horrible lack of estime for patients and their family

[@LuisaD93]

Myriam Lateur lack of what you say ??

[@vdoubleu-o4u]

@@LuisaD93 esteem*

[@LuisaD93]

@@vdoubleu-o4u yeah .

[@Ciril117]

My biggest question, that they don’t speak of during this documentary is most obviously how did He get the Pancuromium Bromide in the first place without being detected. I know it was years ago, but it’s still very insane that a hospital could allow this. Also, so much respect to the scientific team who worked tirelessly to find a GC/MS method to test the samples.

[@Kurtcobainswifey]

He clearly meticulously stole it from the hospital as one of the patients had been legitimately given it for whatever treatment

[@emilyneary7140]

Who else is unsettled that this documentary changed the name of the real hospital? Why are they protected?

[@rickrodan7776]

Exactly!

[@fonzywild]

It's Glendale Adventist Medical Center- source is wikipedia

[@trick351]

Type in google, respiratory therapist kills patients It’s all there. ❤️🙏🏼❤️

[@lynnyoung7947]

Exactly

[@otmansaci4314]

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[@lavenderblue5143]

I can't even imagine the level and scale of teamwork that went into this case. From police officers, forensic pathologists, poison experts, grave diggers, hospital administrators, even the family members who came forward. Damn.

[@andybricks576]

It's Worth every ounce of effort too!

[@elizabethrios7759]

Yeah you tell yourself that honey because you can't imagine the level of scale and teamwork it went in to covering up with that piece of s*** was doing!!!! Wake up and smell the coffee!!!

[@NotASnowflake]

@@andybricks576 Yes it is, I don't care if it took all of the county and federal resources that could be put together. *IT WAS MORE THAN WORTH IT*

[@anntwin1301]

And this is why a family member should always be able to stay with family for overnight stays at the hospital.

[@beaulieuc8910]

and people should wear body cams

[@cielecelestine3469]

Unless it’s the family trying to kill the patient for insurance or other nefarious purposes.

[@amber6155]

The hospital changed my grandma's trach tube to one she needed to breathe more on her own since her insurance wasn't going to cover it anymore. They said just two days before she wasn't ready. But they switched it anyways and she stopped breathing and died that night. It's hard to trust hospitals after that

[@shirlebug]

True, for more than one reason. That was you can ask questions for them and make sure things are going well.

[@shirlebug]

@@beaulieuc8910 the world seems like we are heading in that direction

[@sheenaalexis8710]

Dr Baker is a good man and doctor. He truly cares for his patients and their well being. And I love how he talked about how we take our loved one's to the hospital, trusting the doctors to care for them and find solace they are safe while in their care...he gets it! He's one of the good one's. Doctors like that salvadar punk terrify me to my core.

[@geraldinejonss4516]

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[@loltryagain3422]

Such a great doctor he let vulnerable patients be treated by a doctor who was probably taking drugs and put their lives in danger! What’s wrong with you?

[@africacarey]

Lmaooo but he found someone with a bunch of illegal drugs that weren't supposed to be in his locker and did not report them..okay honey you're delusional

[@sheenaalexis8710]

@@africacarey he's certainly not perfect. No one is.

[@denisemezynski8014]

@@sheenaalexis8710 ........Girl, how old are You?? Im guessing you may be an addict & very young, so You have empathy for this slime?? Whatever the reason? I Pray for YOU .....💓

[@FanfictionWoes]

This is rare please don’t mistrust all medical professionals, most of them actually want to help. This man does not represent an entire field.

[@davidc3839]

What about a paddock ?

[@juanar5170]

I agree....bad apples in every field..most nurses and doctors put their families aside even to help others sad but true..so they are there to help not kill

[@catmoore2443]

Not forgetting the caring corrupted... That do exactly what the Government says even if its immoral , illegal and evil .

[@healgoth]

@@juanar5170 They give up sleep to spend their lives helping the helpless stabilize and recover ❤️‍🩹 Abusing that power is unforgivable but it’s also important to remember what Mr. Rogers’ mother said to him “Look for the helpers. You will ALWAYS find people who are helping.” Be a helper… 1:07:37 is a perfect example

[@TheRealTrueCrimeAnalyst]

@@catmoore2443 Can you share some examples?

[@wildplantsx]

dropped by to say thank you for encouraging me to post my true crime videos, its been a passion of mine for years but I'm dyslexic and was afraid to mess words up occasionally.., you rock.

[@ellaveserolle7082]

Wow!! Impressive hard work to this team!! There are still good hearted people in this world. This team is that prime example! I cannot even imagine the mind of this serial killer!! How did he gain access to this drug ?? This is a massive learning experience for hospitals worldwide!!

[@lynettecubit4958]

I am stunned there was no drug amount audits. Surely they would notice drugs missing!

[@deborahevans1052]

This is terrible to think he killed so many people over 9 years is unbelieveable he's a devil 😈

[@TheIntrovertcore]

Hats off to all those who worked hard sincerely to get a breakthrough to this spine chilling case.

[@jeanettebird2739]

If only his colleagues had spoken up sooner about what they found, his suspicious behavior maybe a lot of people would still be here today . The police did an amazing job , they deserve a gold medal for all their hard work and hats off to the centre for working so hard for over a year to find a protocol to detect the drug . . Hope he stays in prison until the day he dies ....

[@miriamart9712]

A lot of hospitals don't allow people to stay overnight, I wish they changed this rule so patients can have one person overlooking them.

[@zoeyrochellezhombie829]

I think it depends on the age. I was a freshman in high school when I had jaw surgery and my mom was there the whole time.

[@marcostudd]

That's crazy! and the craziest part is that I worked with this guy in 1999... I guess our employer (who was a criminal attorney) failed to properly run his background... or simply didn't do one. this guy though.. Efren... one of the nicest co-worker I've ever met... worked right next to him in a phone center for months... you'd NEVER even imagine anything remotely close to this. to think that Efren is currently serving 7 consecutive life sentences in prison is just... wow.

[@jamie-leighgibson2338]

How can be be in a call centre of he's a doctor and how do u get an attorney as an employer in a hospital

[@marcostudd]

@@jamie-leighgibson2338, he was unemployed while being investigated…. During that time that he was unemployed, he was hired by the company I used to work for…. Who’s owner of said company was an attorney. Clear?

[@jamie-leighgibson2338]

@@marcostuddok was so confused there lol Then in this is said while he wasn't working at this specific hospital he got a job at another hospital

[@marcostudd]

@@jamie-leighgibson2338 I worked him him post all this stuff and his hospital jobs… his last “free time”, while being investigated, he was able to get this job…. NOT at another hospital.

[@1mol831]

I think he probably would be serving around 90 life sentences if all the victims were found, but there is little difference between the two.

[@stephenwager4719]

Respect to all those who was investigating to bring this monster to justice

[@lvelazquez5595]

P.S. THANKS TO ALL THE DETECTIVES, POLICE & ALL WHO SOLVED THIS CASE. AMAZING HARD WORK💯👍👏🙏

[@sebxiou-lifestyle4465]

Agreed!

[@wallyedits]

AGREED

[@unique3279]

STRONGLY AGREE

[@patrarus6097]

Thanks for posting this excellent episode -- very detailed and meticulous in its reporting. Keep up the great work!

[@WindDancer435]

I had never heard of this case until now and it is horrific.

[@annec9376]

Suffocation is NOT a nice way to go.

[@mornettepotgieter3034]

What a terrifying way to die. Horrendous that someone can do this to innocent people.

[@LuisaD93]

Anne C I bet ,but you have first hand knowledge of this 🙄🤷‍♀️ ??

[@annec9376]

Yes. Medical mistake. Eventually revived. Horrible. To get an idea of it: breathe out fully then don't breathe in at all until you pass out.

[@Janevelyn]

Lesley Leith horrified for both of you. Glad you both came through. 🙏🏻

[@didarden]

Horrible