The Apology of Socrates by Plato

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@techdesigner9741
@techdesigner9741 5 жыл бұрын
Someone took the time to record this. What a great world we live in,
@opietaylor5579
@opietaylor5579 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree about ur statement that the we live in a great world, my father murderd my mother and killed himself, I was adopted by my mom’s sister that forced me to have sex with her and her friends, I’m pretty sure she was charging people to support a drug habit but by the time I was 13 I was numb to being humiliated and sodomized by grown men (and my aunt) if I wasn’t so much of a pussy I’d kill myself, I’ll never be normal, I’ll never be happy
@andrejparunovic
@andrejparunovic 4 жыл бұрын
​@@opietaylor5579 It makes me really sad to hear this happened. And it's not wrong to be affected negatively on the level of mental health by repeated trauma - it's just not your fault. I don't know that things in your life will change in some profound way for the better, but in the mean time, a lot of existentialist philosophers recommend art as replacement for a good life. Life is suffering, they say (I don't necessarily agree), but art, ie music, books, movies, ...; is for some reason able to suspend pain and bring some pleasure without asking you whether your "actual" life is worth living. All this to say, I hope you find happiness because you matter, and you deserve kindness and hugs and kisses.
@The-Real-Monkey-D-Luffy
@The-Real-Monkey-D-Luffy 3 жыл бұрын
@@opietaylor5579 Hey, just saw this comment and wanted to say I'm super sorry this happened to you. To some degree, no one is normal. I'm not trying to say you're just like everyone else for feeling the way you do because what you went through is horrible and uncommon. But what I am trying to say is that as a baseline, we are the same. You're a human just like us and unfortunately bad things happened to you that shaped your perspective on life. But because you're human you have a fighting spirit that can help you overcome impossible obstacles. I know that inside of you is some form of strength that can make you a kind and generous person despite what has been done to you. If you can find the strength to continue living I feel like you would never want to imbue the pain and suffering you've experienced onto others and that would be incredible. I'm not sure if you're religious or not so take this as a metaphor at the least, the devil messed with you in early life and instead of breaking you and making you one of his slaves, he may have just created one of the strongest people to his opposition. I can imagine how you feel, I can imagine how hard it is to want to carry on, but if you do choose to live another day you have a big choice after that. What kind of person do you want to be? A kind one or one that causes suffering. I think I know the answer 😃 I'd be glad to keep talking to you. Message me back. Disclaimer: I don't know if what I said makes sense. Basically, live another day because I'm sure you have the strength to. And if you chose to live another day, don't stop there, make another choice. Will you be kind or mean? Kindness is harder, but I'm sure nothing is harder than what you went through so I think you can do it. Fuck. I'm ranting again. Message me back with what you think on this. I'd love to keep talking to you.
@Lcarbon510
@Lcarbon510 3 жыл бұрын
@Rodger Flamingsink lol sounds an awful lot like him. Like, exactly.
@charlottetuck7014
@charlottetuck7014 3 жыл бұрын
@@opietaylor5579 so sorry.God is always with you to heal.
@rchetype7029
@rchetype7029 8 жыл бұрын
Socrates' defence always reminds me of a quote I once heard: *"A hero is just a man who knows he is free."* That sentiment has stuck with me through the years, but its truth only seems to grow the older I get. Freedom is not fearing the hand of a greater force, not fearing to think or act. Freedom is standing for what you believe even when no one else will. Socrates does not fear death because he knows he is free, he knows that nothing can ever take that from him.
@AGrayPhantom
@AGrayPhantom 8 жыл бұрын
Protoman was a true hero.
@TheArchsage74
@TheArchsage74 8 жыл бұрын
Hope rides alone.
@donche5700
@donche5700 5 жыл бұрын
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@5KiTl3z0r8
@5KiTl3z0r8 5 жыл бұрын
Ʌrchetype but if your dead how are you free? You’d be nothin at that point.
@unviversalyhappy
@unviversalyhappy 5 жыл бұрын
The jury disagreed
@paultreitel2661
@paultreitel2661 8 жыл бұрын
Meletus, Anytus, and Lycon disliked this video.
@rubenocasio9188
@rubenocasio9188 3 жыл бұрын
Fvk'3m!!Bro!!
@EzekielBread-fv1xc
@EzekielBread-fv1xc 10 ай бұрын
this is what I needed for my schoolwork, I'm glad I found this.
@JackPassmore
@JackPassmore 8 жыл бұрын
"They suppose that they will suffer something terrible if they die. As though they would be immortal if you did not kill them."
@SilenceSerene
@SilenceSerene 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, are you still alive though ?
@uncleusuh
@uncleusuh 3 жыл бұрын
@@SilenceSerene Probably not.
@meghanyoungren809
@meghanyoungren809 Жыл бұрын
everyone is in here talking about how beautiful of a work this is, im a chem major listening to it cause i don’t have the strength to read it. y’all don’t understand how much respect i have for you guys
@ambercaywood7067
@ambercaywood7067 Жыл бұрын
Yesssss. Waa so hard for me to read
@ttacking_you
@ttacking_you 21 күн бұрын
Well, I say ancient Greek philosophy is ALWAYS preferable -wait?! You mean drugs don't you?? Ok then? My mistake? Drugs trumps ancient Greek philosophy. Hell, without them, I wouldn't even find this shit entertaining!? Now to enjoy the work of the ancients, I utilize my own compounded formula-a nice oppositional (non-booze) _crossfade_
@arrepich
@arrepich Жыл бұрын
Socrates addresses to judge 0:00 The Charges 2:30 The Defense 18:18 The Sentence 32:55 Socrates responds to the sentence 54:02
@majeedmamah7457
@majeedmamah7457 11 ай бұрын
Thank you
@anthonystevens6999
@anthonystevens6999 4 жыл бұрын
When you’re accused of being the Imposter in Among Us
@mikea.8252
@mikea.8252 4 жыл бұрын
and they still vote you out
@allindbz
@allindbz Жыл бұрын
So lame
@sierram4911
@sierram4911 5 жыл бұрын
What a blessing for all the audio learners out there. Thanks for uploading!
@rahulvishnu4426
@rahulvishnu4426 3 жыл бұрын
199 people have disliked it. If the count reaches 280, Socrates dies. Don't you guys get it, even after thousands of years? Stop it.
@a.lampman2165
@a.lampman2165 8 жыл бұрын
This literally had me crying. For multiple reasons. For one, it's Plato's recollection so I can never know its accuracy. For two, it's a perfect oration in defense of himself... and nonetheless, he was punished.
@giggletushjr
@giggletushjr 5 жыл бұрын
Far from perfect
@marcin9554
@marcin9554 5 жыл бұрын
It was not really an oration in defense of himself as much as showing accusers their wrongs. If he just wanted to live I'm sure he'd achieve that easily.
@Alex_Fahey
@Alex_Fahey 4 жыл бұрын
More of a "you are all idiots and here's why..." than a defence but perfect is still a good description.
@lordawesometony2764
@lordawesometony2764 4 жыл бұрын
Lol “okay, now that you haven’t sentence me to death, serve me food everyday you bastards!” 🌸 💀
@MrZooganopolos
@MrZooganopolos 4 жыл бұрын
If you must lose your head, why not show how pathetic accusers are, presuming you speak truly.
@timjones5916
@timjones5916 Жыл бұрын
Even after 7 years of this being posted people like me are able to use this to learn. Thank you for making this oration. Also your voice is amazing.
@johnmiller7453
@johnmiller7453 7 жыл бұрын
Well considering that in spite of his Apology he was still convicted shows how morally degenerate is the human species. Men of low quality will almost always hate the honest and truthful man. If they really believed in the gods as they claim they would not falsely accuse a just man. This goes on forever.
@kavinxavier4552
@kavinxavier4552 4 жыл бұрын
I believe humans aren't inherently evil, but civilization influences our species in such a way so as to cause instances like these
@MrZooganopolos
@MrZooganopolos 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your first point but disagree with the notion of this going on forever. After all, there are set patterns, which I enjoy writing and speaking about as the island problem. In such, you have a society, and if you have understood and decent laws of ethics, it will rarely even totter. However, introduction to the island of men, "spirits," and creatures of low quality -- the rot -- will always create issue, and likely cause a fall. There's both bad, and good in this series of events. The bad, the obvious in decay of society and fall of many seemingly good men who are not as sound of mind is a sad series of events. But, the good is that usually, those forces cannot stretch any further than technology will allow them at a given time. And so, many, and in some cases most even, will evade destruction by knowing what to look for, while attempting to facilitate the removal of other good people. An example being Einstein's leaving Germany, prior to conflict. Another being the DuPonts leaving France (though man scientists and others were unfortunately axed, including the tutor of Irene DuPont, the founder of the company still known today). On the world scale, as technology increases, ease at which the rot spreads, but it is through women and children that these notions spread fastest. This is in part because of inequalities over history, as well as age and lack of experience and understanding in youth. In the case of women, because of certain histories, and a feeling of being poorly represented, certain ideas, which seem good (such as prohibition) gain enough power to make changes that unfortunately only ended up financially strengthening criminal institution -- though the goal was supposed to be reducing household issues (among other things) which a majority of women never experienced anyway. In children, the lack of understanding, much like not knowing math, easily being swayed towards an "easier" path. For example, the difference between a child who is pushed towards doing head math, versus one who is told to continually use a calculator. But, we see how easily this balloons in the book, Animal Farm, where the youth will actually kill friends of the family because they are told to, regardless of the ethical nature of their parents and their parent's friends. Now, at a certain point, technology, and understanding, or usury/forced servitude via serpent-like tactics will allow the rot to take what amounts to full control of all people in all places. From there, those like Socrates, and others who promote ethics will be vehemently attacked, and otherwise destroyed -- whether it be through false accusations, supposed drug or alcohol issues, "mental illness," or other means. The good news for those who are ethical and otherwise sound in mind is that God truly loves them, and so, whether or not some are coaxed via science, or other means away from any number of truths, death is not the end. Now, at this point, some get frustrated with the idea of death and afterlife, however, it is no mistake that any number of texts have survived and otherwise touched the minds and hearts of very specific people. It is no mistake that the island problem works.
@MrZooganopolos
@MrZooganopolos 4 жыл бұрын
The island problem's most basic premises are that: on three islands, where there are equal numbers of people and resources, the island which has and maintains the most sound ethical principles in all people who are equally eager to move their society, technology, and understanding forward will FAR outpace the second island, where rot is introduced, And, the third island where rot is law (ethics are low/nonexistent). This is because of a simple premise. If there is one carpenter on the island, and someone steals their hammer, or saw -- whether because they just want it, or to sell, or to melt down into something else -- the lack of communication and the theft, or destruction, ensure that the pace of that particular trade is reduced. Alternatively, on the island where the ethics are strong, and the idea of theft seems beyond only juvenile, there is no reduction in rates. Because of communication, if the hammer or saw is needed for another project temporarily, or otherwise, conversation leads to a plan where in which a schedule is established, and their use and return are facilitated. There, even in the worst case of just wanting those things just so as to have or to destroy, conversation either leads to understanding as to why this is a bad idea, or, it leads to the facilitation or creation of other implements. In cases were rates of production are not equal, say, if the island of thieves and rot is far larger than the island ethical people, there is still hope, in the sense that like the world, eventually, the whole of is overcome first by the rot, and then something interesting happens. The next overcoming of the world is by things beyond the world and man's grasp. That is, whether you too are a believer in God, or just hypothesize alien life and visitors, the world is no more than an island. But like the various things which slow the rot's spread, this final barrier to the world's progresses and detriments, this last kind of barrier is always kept distant and is far more costly to cross than any wall, river, forest, desert, sea, or ocean. If it were not, plenty of thing with less value would make their way beyond the earth's gravity, and establish themselves there. Now in the Birth/Life/Death (BLD) test and barriers, a given person will gradually be subjected to various things to see how they will react. I do not mean temptations here, as even the concept of temptations can be alien to some in certain parts of the world -- when we are referring to those things generally considered temptations by the western world. For these reasons, people in history, like Diogenes, seemed to some to suffer great poverty in any number of ways, and yet still was approached by a head of state. The fact that that head of state, if you will, only approached Diogenes when he was very old, and much weaker physically, is indicative of that head of state's position in things over all -- as even if he were younger at the time, those who preceded him, and those who exiled Diogenes certainly defined their places in their own BLDs. The way in which those characters are formed, their builds, are known. Thus, if they were unaware of a given situation, it cannot be held against them, much like a child starving in Africa who you will never meet or see weighs against you far less than a child in your own community starving. If they were aware, but did not understand, their lack of knowledge and wisdom at the time helps define their greater status (kind of like scoring in a game at the end). If a majority of what Diogenes stated was true, and wise, but those leaders opposed it, then it is easily held against them. If then, after death, the decent rest in peace, while the wicked do not rest, then from that perspective it works out as well. I'll stop this quickly growing passage prior to its growing twice as long, even though, given your listening to the writing above means you must be interested in discussions of decency, because a conversation occurred here, and my train of thought was interrupted. Be well!
@danielsmithiv1279
@danielsmithiv1279 3 жыл бұрын
@@kavinxavier4552 The world system (or civilization) is apart of the influence that corrupts us. But it's also the darkness within us that influences us. By nature, we are children of wrath and it's about to be made manifest publically eventually. For now, we carry out our dark, inherently evil natures in secret...when no one else is looking...or so we are led to believe when we deceive ourselves.
@universe36
@universe36 3 жыл бұрын
Well it is not known if the apology is a fully accurate account of Socrates' speech. We mainly only know through plato, who may have written a biased account. We do not know.
@orion2250
@orion2250 5 жыл бұрын
He was a danger to the system..so the system killed him
@NathanaelKuechenberg
@NathanaelKuechenberg 5 жыл бұрын
orion 2250 ναι ‘tis true
@mrn95
@mrn95 4 жыл бұрын
Times havent changed
@citizen694
@citizen694 4 жыл бұрын
@@NathanaelKuechenberg ζητά ελλάδα !
@ragamuffin7570
@ragamuffin7570 8 жыл бұрын
Sad and inspiring at the same time.
@sorsocksfake
@sorsocksfake 8 жыл бұрын
Minor note: apologia and apology are rather different words :). Apologia rather describes someone defending his case against accusers, be it in court or in philosophy.
@bryancampbell2484
@bryancampbell2484 5 жыл бұрын
It still means the same thing.
@johnc339
@johnc339 2 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@etcetera3282
@etcetera3282 4 жыл бұрын
2,500 yrs after and probably not even 1% of humanity has ever achieved the wisdom of Socrates. Socrates shames us all.
@theminboss
@theminboss 8 жыл бұрын
"I should be punished with free meals" Plato's Socrates is such an OG shitlord sometimes and I love it. Though imo they would have let him go (or at least only forced him into exile from Athens) if he had just amicably promised to stop being such a shitlord. Tough to say though, as the other apologies of Socrates by different contemporaries paint a very different story. Thanks for providing this recording in your sexy voice, mister Sargon.
@dattebenforcer
@dattebenforcer 8 жыл бұрын
ROFL that comic
@coldytm3222
@coldytm3222 8 жыл бұрын
Lovin' that shit.
@2ScoopTV
@2ScoopTV 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao but, as he implied, it is not in him to change his ways, and would rather die a shitlord, than live a pleb.
@andrewsav4865
@andrewsav4865 6 жыл бұрын
He actually had many wealthy friends who offered to pay any fines levied against him. He was even given the option to escape and flee to Crete but preferred, much like Thetis, to die an honorable death than live a bad life.
@leocarbaugh5074
@leocarbaugh5074 3 жыл бұрын
Im sure he wouldn't have been a shitlord to anyone who didnt assert claims they couldnt prove and try to force them upon others. Makes you wonder who the real shitlords were.
@NitroDubzzz
@NitroDubzzz 8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I can't believe my high school history teacher showed me this picture but never even hinted at its meaning. What a disgrace
@jordan24303
@jordan24303 7 жыл бұрын
what grade are you in?
@RoRoTheG
@RoRoTheG 2 жыл бұрын
This is really awesome. To have taken the time to read a record this then to post it for us all to listen to.
@etymos6644
@etymos6644 6 жыл бұрын
This work cannot be topped. Listening to it sent goosebumps down my spine.
@Gabriel-re6tf
@Gabriel-re6tf 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have thought that my uni philosophy course would bring me back to Sargon
@thatguy6919
@thatguy6919 6 жыл бұрын
The ending reminds me of "My gods are smiling on me, can you say the same Imperial"
@elielsolares8695
@elielsolares8695 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was "ancestors" not gods
@samwallaceart288
@samwallaceart288 7 жыл бұрын
I just started studying Socrates yesterday ... this guy sounds like the ultimate badass. The speech is awesome.
@MariaRodriguez-si9id
@MariaRodriguez-si9id 7 жыл бұрын
Samuel Wallamwce
@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname
@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname 10 ай бұрын
this apology was written by Plato, though. Socrates never wrote anything
@pepecow235
@pepecow235 5 ай бұрын
Hello sir, how are you doing now?
@spinscythe
@spinscythe 8 жыл бұрын
I read this in my world literature class and it was one of the best pieces of literature I have ever come across besides the epic of Gilgamesh. Auto-liked this video. Great upload.
@MissKihara98
@MissKihara98 5 жыл бұрын
.... very worth your time. SO very grateful for the upload. Even subscribed as a result!
@jamesbong5135
@jamesbong5135 8 жыл бұрын
WOW The more things change..
@MultiMVirus
@MultiMVirus 8 жыл бұрын
The more that they don't.
@MotesTV
@MotesTV 8 жыл бұрын
(the more things stay the same)
@GavinJBerry-kq1jq
@GavinJBerry-kq1jq 4 жыл бұрын
Carcass heart-work is cool, but I like their earlier (grindcore) stuff.
@MrThegamer695
@MrThegamer695 8 жыл бұрын
Great reading Sargon. Hope to see another video soon.
@so_crates1337
@so_crates1337 Жыл бұрын
👍
@TCDF22
@TCDF22 6 жыл бұрын
I was watching some cat videos and THIS showed up as an AD! Go go "fixed" algorithms, but in reality I couldn't turn it off and ended up watching the entire thing instead of continuing to do dishes and laundry. What a channel! Subbed! I would never had found this channel otherwise.
@sh-hg4eg
@sh-hg4eg 3 жыл бұрын
The channels belongs to a bigger channel called Sargon of Akkad, the reader is Carl Benjamin
@nicholastrice8750
@nicholastrice8750 5 жыл бұрын
Such a genius Socrates was! Too smart for his own good...
@dirtydard4870
@dirtydard4870 8 жыл бұрын
This is how I want to die
@classicalpositioning957
@classicalpositioning957 6 жыл бұрын
Keep this channel going Carl of Britain.
@Sandra-hc4vo
@Sandra-hc4vo 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for making this available.
@billmilligan7272
@billmilligan7272 3 ай бұрын
Brilliantly done. I was really hoping you had also recorded some other Platonic dialogues! It's going to be hard to find one to match this.
@unclevax8320
@unclevax8320 8 жыл бұрын
I"d love to hear you read the republic
@dirtydard4870
@dirtydard4870 8 жыл бұрын
There is an amazing Librivox recording if you're interested. Really good reader
@nowthatsprogress8708
@nowthatsprogress8708 8 жыл бұрын
+Medard Stello sweet. thank you. i read long ago but would much prefer listening to it. I will check it out.
@nowthatsprogress8708
@nowthatsprogress8708 8 жыл бұрын
Dirty Dard Good to know, checking it out. Thanks!
@Touloumba
@Touloumba 7 жыл бұрын
I agree great voice!! am I the only one that heard the laughing and screaming kids?
@bradleygearhart2555
@bradleygearhart2555 6 жыл бұрын
Touloumba It was Sargon corrupting the youth
@NOST0PLOSS
@NOST0PLOSS 3 жыл бұрын
Oh sargon how did I not know these existed. Thank you old friend
@CalvinHodgson
@CalvinHodgson 7 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so soothing I am about to fall asleep on the coach at 9 PM!
@whitemaleplatypus8490
@whitemaleplatypus8490 6 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is... back then "From virtue comes money" was a true statement..
@douglasjenkins2770
@douglasjenkins2770 5 жыл бұрын
Still my favorite version of this
@Jawnexplores
@Jawnexplores Жыл бұрын
Just a note on the narration here - it's almost all in exactly the same tone - exactly the same expressive tone. Take note narrators, please do not do this. Read the text and practice narration before just saying the words and you'll be able to actually embody the narrative emotion required of you.
@LN-Lifer
@LN-Lifer 2 жыл бұрын
I read this as a young child and I still believe Socrates to be the person most responsible for what I still believe to this day. Btw the Democratic party would HATE Socrates
@Trippy_Mushrooms
@Trippy_Mushrooms 6 жыл бұрын
i'm learning English, i'm in 3 the highschool and i like listening audiobooks
@nicholastrice8750
@nicholastrice8750 5 жыл бұрын
!Qué bueno! Estudia mucho, es un lenguaje muy rico.
@pward17
@pward17 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. I understand you! Good work!
@sealot1
@sealot1 8 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about Socrates in school, essentially: he was very wise, socratic method, yada yada... and he even wrote his own defence speech when he was tried. that description does not nearly do this justice. From when I learned, I always took it a bit like, "no matter how smart you are, some things you don't know". this is him completely turning every argument against him on it's head before smiling and downing the cup like a boss. how can people make this kind of history boring? Thank you, Sargon. this made my day that much better.
@2ScoopTV
@2ScoopTV 6 жыл бұрын
Someone photoshop this picture to be a middle finger instead. Thanks.
@walidhamoush1
@walidhamoush1 Жыл бұрын
this is great! where can I find the actual book or pdf? I tried accessing the link in the description but it gave me a "page not found"
@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname
@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname 10 ай бұрын
just browse plato's apology translated by Hugh Tredennick
@baj7769
@baj7769 6 жыл бұрын
If only Socrates owned a suit then he wouldn't have been executed.
@firefoxmetzger9063
@firefoxmetzger9063 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Great voice, even better text.
@almaelenamastachi4856
@almaelenamastachi4856 4 жыл бұрын
From the 1:06 minute the speech is universal. Avoinding death it is easily than avoinding unrighteousness. So brave.
@af.tatchell
@af.tatchell 5 жыл бұрын
Oh god is this really Sargon of Akkad narrating???
@jordansullivan3886
@jordansullivan3886 5 жыл бұрын
Angus Tatchell it is!!! I have spent the whole hour thinking who the hell is it! Cheers
@thomasfinley2385
@thomasfinley2385 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like him, yes.
@L0RDLUK
@L0RDLUK 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I thought it was him but saw nothing that would link this channel to him.
@silviasirbu1863
@silviasirbu1863 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this question! I now confirm that I was not mistaken.
@conorb6281
@conorb6281 8 жыл бұрын
You should do more Platonic dialogues.
@umbriel6525
@umbriel6525 2 жыл бұрын
thank you i have trouble retaining information from text sometimes. this helped me study.
@bishop1412
@bishop1412 8 жыл бұрын
I would've preferred the original Greek, or at least Akkadian. Seriously, step it up Sargon
@deathwatch962
@deathwatch962 7 жыл бұрын
As someone who can actually read and write ancient Greek, barely any of this would make sense. So much of the modern translations have tons of transliteration upon the original.
@danteherrera5087
@danteherrera5087 6 жыл бұрын
Wait this is Sargon right?
@joshuaginoza9446
@joshuaginoza9446 6 жыл бұрын
yeah
@songoku7915
@songoku7915 6 жыл бұрын
Bishop Gilchrist Church then maybe this is for you kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIXLgI2Dm8yYjas
@songoku7915
@songoku7915 6 жыл бұрын
Christopher Herodotou yes indeed
@weltgeist2604
@weltgeist2604 7 жыл бұрын
I would give my life to make a video of this speech available on KZbin.
@xcp4518
@xcp4518 7 жыл бұрын
Damn i had to read to this for class a month ago and now i find sargon reading it
@BreLakersN6
@BreLakersN6 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@Davidf8L
@Davidf8L 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your work and time making this happen for me ❤😢
@KatnissEverdeen-py4uq
@KatnissEverdeen-py4uq 6 ай бұрын
why i am here as a hs freshie reading this, i do not know
@offspringfan100
@offspringfan100 5 жыл бұрын
Looking up more stuff to read by Plato and I see this masterpiece. I click. Sargon's seductive voice: "The Apology of Socrates, by Plato..." Me: "Ah shit, here we go again!"
@doublenegation7870
@doublenegation7870 4 жыл бұрын
"Seductive". He sounds like a bearded lady.
@miyu-miyu9771
@miyu-miyu9771 4 жыл бұрын
"Leave aside the manner of my speech"
@chrisjernigan1912
@chrisjernigan1912 8 жыл бұрын
What. I was just looking this up for my Philosophy class. Who knew it would it would be read by my favorite KZbinr, Sargon of Akkad.
@punkseth1
@punkseth1 6 жыл бұрын
Is it actually him?
@neloangelo7943
@neloangelo7943 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that immediately but second guessed myself. like what are the odds lol.
@kurochan_dat90schick
@kurochan_dat90schick 6 жыл бұрын
I have to read Socrates Apology for my Philosophy class and I know it's a long piece, so I decided to listen to the audiobook instead because I don't have time to read it right now xD I got class tomorrow morning
@himalayfaldu9868
@himalayfaldu9868 6 жыл бұрын
do you have the answers for that worksheet for philosophy?
@kurochan_dat90schick
@kurochan_dat90schick 5 жыл бұрын
@@himalayfaldu9868 I had a quiz on it the next day and did meh on it... Since it was late while I watched the video and it was a long one too, I had trouble understanding most of the stuff in this piece cause he talks about so much in it ya know? I got an exam Thursday and my teacher said that a question about Socrates Apology will be in it. Hope I do ok on it lol
@beanman350
@beanman350 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot to read this for my philosophy class, and I do t have enough time to sit and read. Lucked out with this one
@ReneePsalm18
@ReneePsalm18 Жыл бұрын
3:20 personal bookmark
@joshuaginoza9446
@joshuaginoza9446 6 жыл бұрын
I think I can hear sargon's kid around the 15:00 mark.
@OilCap
@OilCap Жыл бұрын
Bro I am so confused.
@Derekorbe1
@Derekorbe1 5 жыл бұрын
which translation is this?
@lover830
@lover830 8 жыл бұрын
This is a different version than i am reading in school. I was trying to follow along but so many words and phrases were different. Although the message is still mostly the same
@JCC-970
@JCC-970 Жыл бұрын
You know which translation is the one on this audio?
@_MikeJon_
@_MikeJon_ 7 жыл бұрын
I wish these were uploaded on sound cloud. KZbin kills my phone battery :(
@StrazdasLT
@StrazdasLT 7 жыл бұрын
Since youtube is using unified audio track for all video tracks now, just set it to lowest quality to save data and battery (rendering) without loss of audio quality. Not that youtubes audio quality is good anyway, but for voice its good enough.
@Kombatkegz
@Kombatkegz 5 жыл бұрын
Oh shit I didn’t know Carl did this, I was just looking up audiobooks on KZbin
@russellmoore1849
@russellmoore1849 5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Keogler I was scrolling through comments for confirmation on this, thank you haha
@ClipCoyote
@ClipCoyote 7 жыл бұрын
Hey! My friend Kev is reading this! Bravo!
@jessicawarrior6439
@jessicawarrior6439 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't find the text through the link that you shared. Please share information about the translator so i can download the text as well. Thank you so much for this great read. I just subscribed.
@ProgressiveLiberty
@ProgressiveLiberty 7 жыл бұрын
This video only plays in the Chrome browser for some reason.
@TThompson79
@TThompson79 4 жыл бұрын
So very well spoken! Thank you very much.
@memoriesintechnicolour1360
@memoriesintechnicolour1360 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this
@rephil513
@rephil513 8 жыл бұрын
Sargon...I know you're not his biggest fan, but Stefan Molyneux has a really wonderful recitation and analysis of "The Trial and Death of Socrates". It's really quite interesting and worth the listen! In many ways, that event completely shaped western thought, yet so few know about it.
@rephil513
@rephil513 8 жыл бұрын
Last thing. I do totally get that you guys have different political perspectives. And I believe I once heard you regard him to be sophistic...fair enough. But you're the kind of patient and inquisitive communicator that I could see enjoying a conversation with him. He's done the same Socrates material, and recently put out an analysis of the Fall of Rome and how it relates to where we are now. I could definitely see you guys meshing on such things, and cordially conversing about differences otherwise. Love to hear what you think...
@sagebias2251
@sagebias2251 8 жыл бұрын
i did not like stephans recitation but i would like to hear a discussion of greek philosophy between these two.
@OrthoReadings
@OrthoReadings 8 жыл бұрын
+Sage Bias that would be interesting indeed. They're both History majors too I believe.
@danielsmithiv1279
@danielsmithiv1279 3 жыл бұрын
The Lord was really moving through Socrates. This is deep
@rexlundstrom2333
@rexlundstrom2333 3 жыл бұрын
This suggests, when you think about it, that democracy AKA rule by majority is not the appropriate way to determine the fate of another human being. If it comes down to the majority opinion, those who wish to accuse you can spend much of their time constructing slander, while you are stuck with a small window of defense as Socrates was. Perhaps there is another way that involves an arbiter which both the accuser and the accused agree is a righteous person, instead of a great mob.
@jameseldridge3445
@jameseldridge3445 2 жыл бұрын
The majority is guided by emotions, not logic. That is why US political and judicial system is flawed to its core. For example, having a random selection of jury duty never yields accuracy, only a showcase of the two sides' persuasive abilities. Jurors have no idea how to identify logical fallacies or identifying truth. Lawyers are basically paid liars
@ttacking_you
@ttacking_you 21 күн бұрын
Was it Antigones or Aristophanes who wrote the comic slander that indicted Socrates ? Or was someone else ?
@Johnepumper
@Johnepumper 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Hesperell
@Hesperell 6 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this specifically to listen to the words of someone who didn't think he was smarter than he was. The absolute irony of Sarg'n reading as an intellectually humble genius who prized plain-spoken dialectic to rhetoric and appeals to authority, never avoided a discussion or debate, fought against the semantic sophistry of the ecelebs of his day, and when criminally accused of behavior that would now be protected free speech and expression, ultimately accepted the collective judgment of his polis, and in accordance with its laws, went willingly to his death rather than escape.
@sh-hg4eg
@sh-hg4eg 3 жыл бұрын
"Sarg'n, you're not as clever as you think you are" has to be one of the funniest bloodsport moments in history.
@SnakeWasRight
@SnakeWasRight 8 жыл бұрын
Who the fuck dislikes this?
@tibfulv
@tibfulv 8 жыл бұрын
Athenians. :D
@zakuiizaki4938
@zakuiizaki4938 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this!
@purser1596
@purser1596 7 жыл бұрын
Please can you do Argonauts of the Western Pacific by Malinowski. Not just because its part of my course or anything...
@metzgerdan
@metzgerdan 4 жыл бұрын
If you listen in headphones with care you can hear Sargon's baby crying from time to time
@weaselingrentler508
@weaselingrentler508 6 жыл бұрын
why is this an ad?
@orktv4673
@orktv4673 8 жыл бұрын
14:08 "by the dog"???
@Jop3lius
@Jop3lius 8 жыл бұрын
oh dogs, shiba inu was a thing even back then
@orktv4673
@orktv4673 8 жыл бұрын
That clears things up. Thanks for informing me.
@Milos.L
@Milos.L 6 жыл бұрын
like say "by god," using irony to mock its usage
@douglasjenkins2770
@douglasjenkins2770 8 жыл бұрын
Is this Sargon of akkad?
@ryanlira7194
@ryanlira7194 5 жыл бұрын
yeet
@kabangukabangu2529
@kabangukabangu2529 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make it into a podcast?
@randallpetroelje3913
@randallpetroelje3913 5 жыл бұрын
Sad, but utterly brilliant. A Greek death haiku of sorts. Thanks!! Thoroughly enjoyed.
@kevinjanok
@kevinjanok 7 жыл бұрын
from me you will hear the whole truth hubris or not
@aquiteobesepig1439
@aquiteobesepig1439 8 жыл бұрын
Socrates must have married pretty late in his life if two of his sons were still children by the time he went on trial.
@Panthiras_Roz
@Panthiras_Roz 5 жыл бұрын
As a student of ancient Greek (language and philosophy), let me tell you that in ancient Greece women were nothing. Men were having sex with women only to make children and leave to them their "home" (οίκος). Home was like their pride. But men were usually having sex and make orgys with other men during their gods feasts. Also, an interesting information is that education was a little bit strange during these years in Greece. Teachers (not philosophers-teachers like Plato or sophists) were giving lessons to children and teenagers and they were having sex with them too. Their name in Greek is παιδοτριβες (it sounds like pethotrives ). It's like pedophile,which comes from the word παιδι(pedo) and the word φίλος (phile)
@peachesncream4251
@peachesncream4251 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panthiras_Roz Wow so inaccurate. And you claim to be a "student of ancient Greek" or whatever. Romans are those who you are picturing. Greeks did not penetrate during their affairs. And exactly as you said, παιδοτρίβες, comes from child and τρίβω meaning to rub. The most sexy part in Ancient Greece was thighs, so when they would engage in sexual activities, they would rub their penises in between their thighs. Romans though, did they love penetration. Please abstain from spreading false information you have little knowledge on.
@peachesncream4251
@peachesncream4251 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panthiras_Roz Reading your name now, I really hope you are not Greek as well.
@ryannorris5635
@ryannorris5635 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Socrates. You helped me more that you will ever know; and you apparently know quite a bit...
@jamesbeadenkopf5429
@jamesbeadenkopf5429 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Julian Assange came and faced his accusors in this way.
@AnatolyPotapov
@AnatolyPotapov 8 жыл бұрын
Really exact translations matter in catching Socrates's many dodges. The best is the Thomas G West one found in _4 Texts on Socrates_. One of the most interesting interpretations is David Leibowitz's _The Ironic Defense of Socrates: Plato's Apology_. If you can't use them because of the copy right, at least you could get a better idea of how to modulate your voice to help bring out the drama in what Socrates is doing in the text you use.
@soverysleepy
@soverysleepy 8 жыл бұрын
of course it sounds better in the original Klingon :)
@HeyImLucious
@HeyImLucious 8 жыл бұрын
26min baby sargon strikes?
@avish4421
@avish4421 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any movie about western political thinkers ? I really wanna watch , if anyone knows , please reply ..
@jameseldridge3445
@jameseldridge3445 2 жыл бұрын
You've got to read philosophy to really understand it.. Plato's Republic, Aritstotle's Politics, etc. A movie removes the logic for the sake of amusement and entertainment. Plato explains why in his book.. check it out
@deplorableamerica4680
@deplorableamerica4680 8 жыл бұрын
Early I was looking to see if you had any of the Republic on this channel (other than the cave), what a nice surprise.
@hesultan9222
@hesultan9222 8 жыл бұрын
So Socrates was making roasting videos and they called him a cyber bully?
@brig9229
@brig9229 2 жыл бұрын
Does/Did anyone else consider that when he continued to refer to "The God" instead of "Gods" he meant Jehova?
@Liam-vx8vn
@Liam-vx8vn 2 жыл бұрын
Considering this is ancient Greece, I can only assume that he is referring to Apollo; especially since he mentions the god of Delphi (who is Apollo) being where he was told that there is none wiser than him by/through an oracle. One could assume that God would speak to peoples of other cultures (who were before the covenant of the cross) to prophesy to pagans. But, that would beg the question, why would God allow pagans to believe that other gods are communicating with them rather than letting them know it is He who is communicating with them instead? Letting them continue breaking the Laws already established centuries ago on Sinai to Moses. It would be nice to assume he is speaking of the God of Israel though.
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 5 жыл бұрын
Is this Sargon?
@hugosolis9363
@hugosolis9363 6 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the painting
@jmc3367
@jmc3367 7 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha, how to talk yourself into a death sentence, best summary ever....awesome
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