Someone took the time to record this. What a great world we live in,
@opietaylor55794 жыл бұрын
I disagree about ur statement that the we live in a great world, my father murderd my mother and killed himself, I was adopted by my mom’s sister that forced me to have sex with her and her friends, I’m pretty sure she was charging people to support a drug habit but by the time I was 13 I was numb to being humiliated and sodomized by grown men (and my aunt) if I wasn’t so much of a pussy I’d kill myself, I’ll never be normal, I’ll never be happy
@andrejparunovic4 жыл бұрын
@@opietaylor5579 It makes me really sad to hear this happened. And it's not wrong to be affected negatively on the level of mental health by repeated trauma - it's just not your fault. I don't know that things in your life will change in some profound way for the better, but in the mean time, a lot of existentialist philosophers recommend art as replacement for a good life. Life is suffering, they say (I don't necessarily agree), but art, ie music, books, movies, ...; is for some reason able to suspend pain and bring some pleasure without asking you whether your "actual" life is worth living. All this to say, I hope you find happiness because you matter, and you deserve kindness and hugs and kisses.
@The-Real-Monkey-D-Luffy3 жыл бұрын
@@opietaylor5579 Hey, just saw this comment and wanted to say I'm super sorry this happened to you. To some degree, no one is normal. I'm not trying to say you're just like everyone else for feeling the way you do because what you went through is horrible and uncommon. But what I am trying to say is that as a baseline, we are the same. You're a human just like us and unfortunately bad things happened to you that shaped your perspective on life. But because you're human you have a fighting spirit that can help you overcome impossible obstacles. I know that inside of you is some form of strength that can make you a kind and generous person despite what has been done to you. If you can find the strength to continue living I feel like you would never want to imbue the pain and suffering you've experienced onto others and that would be incredible. I'm not sure if you're religious or not so take this as a metaphor at the least, the devil messed with you in early life and instead of breaking you and making you one of his slaves, he may have just created one of the strongest people to his opposition. I can imagine how you feel, I can imagine how hard it is to want to carry on, but if you do choose to live another day you have a big choice after that. What kind of person do you want to be? A kind one or one that causes suffering. I think I know the answer 😃 I'd be glad to keep talking to you. Message me back. Disclaimer: I don't know if what I said makes sense. Basically, live another day because I'm sure you have the strength to. And if you chose to live another day, don't stop there, make another choice. Will you be kind or mean? Kindness is harder, but I'm sure nothing is harder than what you went through so I think you can do it. Fuck. I'm ranting again. Message me back with what you think on this. I'd love to keep talking to you.
@Lcarbon5103 жыл бұрын
@Rodger Flamingsink lol sounds an awful lot like him. Like, exactly.
@charlottetuck70143 жыл бұрын
@@opietaylor5579 so sorry.God is always with you to heal.
@rchetype70298 жыл бұрын
Socrates' defence always reminds me of a quote I once heard: *"A hero is just a man who knows he is free."* That sentiment has stuck with me through the years, but its truth only seems to grow the older I get. Freedom is not fearing the hand of a greater force, not fearing to think or act. Freedom is standing for what you believe even when no one else will. Socrates does not fear death because he knows he is free, he knows that nothing can ever take that from him.
@AGrayPhantom8 жыл бұрын
Protoman was a true hero.
@TheArchsage748 жыл бұрын
Hope rides alone.
@donche57005 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHezqnyPiZ2KsM0
@5KiTl3z0r85 жыл бұрын
Ʌrchetype but if your dead how are you free? You’d be nothin at that point.
@unviversalyhappy5 жыл бұрын
The jury disagreed
@paultreitel26618 жыл бұрын
Meletus, Anytus, and Lycon disliked this video.
@rubenocasio91883 жыл бұрын
Fvk'3m!!Bro!!
@EzekielBread-fv1xc10 ай бұрын
this is what I needed for my schoolwork, I'm glad I found this.
@JackPassmore8 жыл бұрын
"They suppose that they will suffer something terrible if they die. As though they would be immortal if you did not kill them."
@SilenceSerene3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, are you still alive though ?
@uncleusuh3 жыл бұрын
@@SilenceSerene Probably not.
@meghanyoungren809 Жыл бұрын
everyone is in here talking about how beautiful of a work this is, im a chem major listening to it cause i don’t have the strength to read it. y’all don’t understand how much respect i have for you guys
@ambercaywood7067 Жыл бұрын
Yesssss. Waa so hard for me to read
@ttacking_you21 күн бұрын
Well, I say ancient Greek philosophy is ALWAYS preferable -wait?! You mean drugs don't you?? Ok then? My mistake? Drugs trumps ancient Greek philosophy. Hell, without them, I wouldn't even find this shit entertaining!? Now to enjoy the work of the ancients, I utilize my own compounded formula-a nice oppositional (non-booze) _crossfade_
@arrepich Жыл бұрын
Socrates addresses to judge 0:00 The Charges 2:30 The Defense 18:18 The Sentence 32:55 Socrates responds to the sentence 54:02
@majeedmamah745711 ай бұрын
Thank you
@anthonystevens69994 жыл бұрын
When you’re accused of being the Imposter in Among Us
@mikea.82524 жыл бұрын
and they still vote you out
@allindbz Жыл бұрын
So lame
@sierram49115 жыл бұрын
What a blessing for all the audio learners out there. Thanks for uploading!
@rahulvishnu44263 жыл бұрын
199 people have disliked it. If the count reaches 280, Socrates dies. Don't you guys get it, even after thousands of years? Stop it.
@a.lampman21658 жыл бұрын
This literally had me crying. For multiple reasons. For one, it's Plato's recollection so I can never know its accuracy. For two, it's a perfect oration in defense of himself... and nonetheless, he was punished.
@giggletushjr5 жыл бұрын
Far from perfect
@marcin95545 жыл бұрын
It was not really an oration in defense of himself as much as showing accusers their wrongs. If he just wanted to live I'm sure he'd achieve that easily.
@Alex_Fahey4 жыл бұрын
More of a "you are all idiots and here's why..." than a defence but perfect is still a good description.
@lordawesometony27644 жыл бұрын
Lol “okay, now that you haven’t sentence me to death, serve me food everyday you bastards!” 🌸 💀
@MrZooganopolos4 жыл бұрын
If you must lose your head, why not show how pathetic accusers are, presuming you speak truly.
@timjones5916 Жыл бұрын
Even after 7 years of this being posted people like me are able to use this to learn. Thank you for making this oration. Also your voice is amazing.
@johnmiller74537 жыл бұрын
Well considering that in spite of his Apology he was still convicted shows how morally degenerate is the human species. Men of low quality will almost always hate the honest and truthful man. If they really believed in the gods as they claim they would not falsely accuse a just man. This goes on forever.
@kavinxavier45524 жыл бұрын
I believe humans aren't inherently evil, but civilization influences our species in such a way so as to cause instances like these
@MrZooganopolos4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your first point but disagree with the notion of this going on forever. After all, there are set patterns, which I enjoy writing and speaking about as the island problem. In such, you have a society, and if you have understood and decent laws of ethics, it will rarely even totter. However, introduction to the island of men, "spirits," and creatures of low quality -- the rot -- will always create issue, and likely cause a fall. There's both bad, and good in this series of events. The bad, the obvious in decay of society and fall of many seemingly good men who are not as sound of mind is a sad series of events. But, the good is that usually, those forces cannot stretch any further than technology will allow them at a given time. And so, many, and in some cases most even, will evade destruction by knowing what to look for, while attempting to facilitate the removal of other good people. An example being Einstein's leaving Germany, prior to conflict. Another being the DuPonts leaving France (though man scientists and others were unfortunately axed, including the tutor of Irene DuPont, the founder of the company still known today). On the world scale, as technology increases, ease at which the rot spreads, but it is through women and children that these notions spread fastest. This is in part because of inequalities over history, as well as age and lack of experience and understanding in youth. In the case of women, because of certain histories, and a feeling of being poorly represented, certain ideas, which seem good (such as prohibition) gain enough power to make changes that unfortunately only ended up financially strengthening criminal institution -- though the goal was supposed to be reducing household issues (among other things) which a majority of women never experienced anyway. In children, the lack of understanding, much like not knowing math, easily being swayed towards an "easier" path. For example, the difference between a child who is pushed towards doing head math, versus one who is told to continually use a calculator. But, we see how easily this balloons in the book, Animal Farm, where the youth will actually kill friends of the family because they are told to, regardless of the ethical nature of their parents and their parent's friends. Now, at a certain point, technology, and understanding, or usury/forced servitude via serpent-like tactics will allow the rot to take what amounts to full control of all people in all places. From there, those like Socrates, and others who promote ethics will be vehemently attacked, and otherwise destroyed -- whether it be through false accusations, supposed drug or alcohol issues, "mental illness," or other means. The good news for those who are ethical and otherwise sound in mind is that God truly loves them, and so, whether or not some are coaxed via science, or other means away from any number of truths, death is not the end. Now, at this point, some get frustrated with the idea of death and afterlife, however, it is no mistake that any number of texts have survived and otherwise touched the minds and hearts of very specific people. It is no mistake that the island problem works.
@MrZooganopolos4 жыл бұрын
The island problem's most basic premises are that: on three islands, where there are equal numbers of people and resources, the island which has and maintains the most sound ethical principles in all people who are equally eager to move their society, technology, and understanding forward will FAR outpace the second island, where rot is introduced, And, the third island where rot is law (ethics are low/nonexistent). This is because of a simple premise. If there is one carpenter on the island, and someone steals their hammer, or saw -- whether because they just want it, or to sell, or to melt down into something else -- the lack of communication and the theft, or destruction, ensure that the pace of that particular trade is reduced. Alternatively, on the island where the ethics are strong, and the idea of theft seems beyond only juvenile, there is no reduction in rates. Because of communication, if the hammer or saw is needed for another project temporarily, or otherwise, conversation leads to a plan where in which a schedule is established, and their use and return are facilitated. There, even in the worst case of just wanting those things just so as to have or to destroy, conversation either leads to understanding as to why this is a bad idea, or, it leads to the facilitation or creation of other implements. In cases were rates of production are not equal, say, if the island of thieves and rot is far larger than the island ethical people, there is still hope, in the sense that like the world, eventually, the whole of is overcome first by the rot, and then something interesting happens. The next overcoming of the world is by things beyond the world and man's grasp. That is, whether you too are a believer in God, or just hypothesize alien life and visitors, the world is no more than an island. But like the various things which slow the rot's spread, this final barrier to the world's progresses and detriments, this last kind of barrier is always kept distant and is far more costly to cross than any wall, river, forest, desert, sea, or ocean. If it were not, plenty of thing with less value would make their way beyond the earth's gravity, and establish themselves there. Now in the Birth/Life/Death (BLD) test and barriers, a given person will gradually be subjected to various things to see how they will react. I do not mean temptations here, as even the concept of temptations can be alien to some in certain parts of the world -- when we are referring to those things generally considered temptations by the western world. For these reasons, people in history, like Diogenes, seemed to some to suffer great poverty in any number of ways, and yet still was approached by a head of state. The fact that that head of state, if you will, only approached Diogenes when he was very old, and much weaker physically, is indicative of that head of state's position in things over all -- as even if he were younger at the time, those who preceded him, and those who exiled Diogenes certainly defined their places in their own BLDs. The way in which those characters are formed, their builds, are known. Thus, if they were unaware of a given situation, it cannot be held against them, much like a child starving in Africa who you will never meet or see weighs against you far less than a child in your own community starving. If they were aware, but did not understand, their lack of knowledge and wisdom at the time helps define their greater status (kind of like scoring in a game at the end). If a majority of what Diogenes stated was true, and wise, but those leaders opposed it, then it is easily held against them. If then, after death, the decent rest in peace, while the wicked do not rest, then from that perspective it works out as well. I'll stop this quickly growing passage prior to its growing twice as long, even though, given your listening to the writing above means you must be interested in discussions of decency, because a conversation occurred here, and my train of thought was interrupted. Be well!
@danielsmithiv12793 жыл бұрын
@@kavinxavier4552 The world system (or civilization) is apart of the influence that corrupts us. But it's also the darkness within us that influences us. By nature, we are children of wrath and it's about to be made manifest publically eventually. For now, we carry out our dark, inherently evil natures in secret...when no one else is looking...or so we are led to believe when we deceive ourselves.
@universe363 жыл бұрын
Well it is not known if the apology is a fully accurate account of Socrates' speech. We mainly only know through plato, who may have written a biased account. We do not know.
@orion22505 жыл бұрын
He was a danger to the system..so the system killed him
@NathanaelKuechenberg5 жыл бұрын
orion 2250 ναι ‘tis true
@mrn954 жыл бұрын
Times havent changed
@citizen6944 жыл бұрын
@@NathanaelKuechenberg ζητά ελλάδα !
@ragamuffin75708 жыл бұрын
Sad and inspiring at the same time.
@sorsocksfake8 жыл бұрын
Minor note: apologia and apology are rather different words :). Apologia rather describes someone defending his case against accusers, be it in court or in philosophy.
@bryancampbell24845 жыл бұрын
It still means the same thing.
@johnc3392 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@etcetera32824 жыл бұрын
2,500 yrs after and probably not even 1% of humanity has ever achieved the wisdom of Socrates. Socrates shames us all.
@theminboss8 жыл бұрын
"I should be punished with free meals" Plato's Socrates is such an OG shitlord sometimes and I love it. Though imo they would have let him go (or at least only forced him into exile from Athens) if he had just amicably promised to stop being such a shitlord. Tough to say though, as the other apologies of Socrates by different contemporaries paint a very different story. Thanks for providing this recording in your sexy voice, mister Sargon.
@dattebenforcer8 жыл бұрын
ROFL that comic
@coldytm32228 жыл бұрын
Lovin' that shit.
@2ScoopTV6 жыл бұрын
Lmao but, as he implied, it is not in him to change his ways, and would rather die a shitlord, than live a pleb.
@andrewsav48656 жыл бұрын
He actually had many wealthy friends who offered to pay any fines levied against him. He was even given the option to escape and flee to Crete but preferred, much like Thetis, to die an honorable death than live a bad life.
@leocarbaugh50743 жыл бұрын
Im sure he wouldn't have been a shitlord to anyone who didnt assert claims they couldnt prove and try to force them upon others. Makes you wonder who the real shitlords were.
@NitroDubzzz8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I can't believe my high school history teacher showed me this picture but never even hinted at its meaning. What a disgrace
@jordan243037 жыл бұрын
what grade are you in?
@RoRoTheG2 жыл бұрын
This is really awesome. To have taken the time to read a record this then to post it for us all to listen to.
@etymos66446 жыл бұрын
This work cannot be topped. Listening to it sent goosebumps down my spine.
@Gabriel-re6tf4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have thought that my uni philosophy course would bring me back to Sargon
@thatguy69196 жыл бұрын
The ending reminds me of "My gods are smiling on me, can you say the same Imperial"
@elielsolares86953 жыл бұрын
I think it was "ancestors" not gods
@samwallaceart2887 жыл бұрын
I just started studying Socrates yesterday ... this guy sounds like the ultimate badass. The speech is awesome.
@MariaRodriguez-si9id7 жыл бұрын
Samuel Wallamwce
@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname10 ай бұрын
this apology was written by Plato, though. Socrates never wrote anything
@pepecow2355 ай бұрын
Hello sir, how are you doing now?
@spinscythe8 жыл бұрын
I read this in my world literature class and it was one of the best pieces of literature I have ever come across besides the epic of Gilgamesh. Auto-liked this video. Great upload.
@MissKihara985 жыл бұрын
.... very worth your time. SO very grateful for the upload. Even subscribed as a result!
@jamesbong51358 жыл бұрын
WOW The more things change..
@MultiMVirus8 жыл бұрын
The more that they don't.
@MotesTV8 жыл бұрын
(the more things stay the same)
@GavinJBerry-kq1jq4 жыл бұрын
Carcass heart-work is cool, but I like their earlier (grindcore) stuff.
@MrThegamer6958 жыл бұрын
Great reading Sargon. Hope to see another video soon.
@so_crates1337 Жыл бұрын
👍
@TCDF226 жыл бұрын
I was watching some cat videos and THIS showed up as an AD! Go go "fixed" algorithms, but in reality I couldn't turn it off and ended up watching the entire thing instead of continuing to do dishes and laundry. What a channel! Subbed! I would never had found this channel otherwise.
@sh-hg4eg3 жыл бұрын
The channels belongs to a bigger channel called Sargon of Akkad, the reader is Carl Benjamin
@nicholastrice87505 жыл бұрын
Such a genius Socrates was! Too smart for his own good...
@dirtydard48708 жыл бұрын
This is how I want to die
@classicalpositioning9576 жыл бұрын
Keep this channel going Carl of Britain.
@Sandra-hc4vo3 жыл бұрын
thanks for making this available.
@billmilligan72723 ай бұрын
Brilliantly done. I was really hoping you had also recorded some other Platonic dialogues! It's going to be hard to find one to match this.
@unclevax83208 жыл бұрын
I"d love to hear you read the republic
@dirtydard48708 жыл бұрын
There is an amazing Librivox recording if you're interested. Really good reader
@nowthatsprogress87088 жыл бұрын
+Medard Stello sweet. thank you. i read long ago but would much prefer listening to it. I will check it out.
@nowthatsprogress87088 жыл бұрын
Dirty Dard Good to know, checking it out. Thanks!
@Touloumba7 жыл бұрын
I agree great voice!! am I the only one that heard the laughing and screaming kids?
@bradleygearhart25556 жыл бұрын
Touloumba It was Sargon corrupting the youth
@NOST0PLOSS3 жыл бұрын
Oh sargon how did I not know these existed. Thank you old friend
@CalvinHodgson7 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so soothing I am about to fall asleep on the coach at 9 PM!
@whitemaleplatypus84906 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is... back then "From virtue comes money" was a true statement..
@douglasjenkins27705 жыл бұрын
Still my favorite version of this
@Jawnexplores Жыл бұрын
Just a note on the narration here - it's almost all in exactly the same tone - exactly the same expressive tone. Take note narrators, please do not do this. Read the text and practice narration before just saying the words and you'll be able to actually embody the narrative emotion required of you.
@LN-Lifer2 жыл бұрын
I read this as a young child and I still believe Socrates to be the person most responsible for what I still believe to this day. Btw the Democratic party would HATE Socrates
@Trippy_Mushrooms6 жыл бұрын
i'm learning English, i'm in 3 the highschool and i like listening audiobooks
@nicholastrice87505 жыл бұрын
!Qué bueno! Estudia mucho, es un lenguaje muy rico.
@pward174 жыл бұрын
Hello. I understand you! Good work!
@sealot18 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about Socrates in school, essentially: he was very wise, socratic method, yada yada... and he even wrote his own defence speech when he was tried. that description does not nearly do this justice. From when I learned, I always took it a bit like, "no matter how smart you are, some things you don't know". this is him completely turning every argument against him on it's head before smiling and downing the cup like a boss. how can people make this kind of history boring? Thank you, Sargon. this made my day that much better.
@2ScoopTV6 жыл бұрын
Someone photoshop this picture to be a middle finger instead. Thanks.
@walidhamoush1 Жыл бұрын
this is great! where can I find the actual book or pdf? I tried accessing the link in the description but it gave me a "page not found"
@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname10 ай бұрын
just browse plato's apology translated by Hugh Tredennick
@baj77696 жыл бұрын
If only Socrates owned a suit then he wouldn't have been executed.
@firefoxmetzger90636 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Great voice, even better text.
@almaelenamastachi48564 жыл бұрын
From the 1:06 minute the speech is universal. Avoinding death it is easily than avoinding unrighteousness. So brave.
@af.tatchell5 жыл бұрын
Oh god is this really Sargon of Akkad narrating???
@jordansullivan38865 жыл бұрын
Angus Tatchell it is!!! I have spent the whole hour thinking who the hell is it! Cheers
@thomasfinley23855 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like him, yes.
@L0RDLUK4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I thought it was him but saw nothing that would link this channel to him.
@silviasirbu18634 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this question! I now confirm that I was not mistaken.
@conorb62818 жыл бұрын
You should do more Platonic dialogues.
@umbriel65252 жыл бұрын
thank you i have trouble retaining information from text sometimes. this helped me study.
@bishop14128 жыл бұрын
I would've preferred the original Greek, or at least Akkadian. Seriously, step it up Sargon
@deathwatch9627 жыл бұрын
As someone who can actually read and write ancient Greek, barely any of this would make sense. So much of the modern translations have tons of transliteration upon the original.
@danteherrera50876 жыл бұрын
Wait this is Sargon right?
@joshuaginoza94466 жыл бұрын
yeah
@songoku79156 жыл бұрын
Bishop Gilchrist Church then maybe this is for you kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIXLgI2Dm8yYjas
@songoku79156 жыл бұрын
Christopher Herodotou yes indeed
@weltgeist26047 жыл бұрын
I would give my life to make a video of this speech available on KZbin.
@xcp45187 жыл бұрын
Damn i had to read to this for class a month ago and now i find sargon reading it
@BreLakersN63 жыл бұрын
lol
@Davidf8L2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your work and time making this happen for me ❤😢
@KatnissEverdeen-py4uq6 ай бұрын
why i am here as a hs freshie reading this, i do not know
@offspringfan1005 жыл бұрын
Looking up more stuff to read by Plato and I see this masterpiece. I click. Sargon's seductive voice: "The Apology of Socrates, by Plato..." Me: "Ah shit, here we go again!"
@doublenegation78704 жыл бұрын
"Seductive". He sounds like a bearded lady.
@miyu-miyu97714 жыл бұрын
"Leave aside the manner of my speech"
@chrisjernigan19128 жыл бұрын
What. I was just looking this up for my Philosophy class. Who knew it would it would be read by my favorite KZbinr, Sargon of Akkad.
@punkseth16 жыл бұрын
Is it actually him?
@neloangelo79436 жыл бұрын
I thought that immediately but second guessed myself. like what are the odds lol.
@kurochan_dat90schick6 жыл бұрын
I have to read Socrates Apology for my Philosophy class and I know it's a long piece, so I decided to listen to the audiobook instead because I don't have time to read it right now xD I got class tomorrow morning
@himalayfaldu98686 жыл бұрын
do you have the answers for that worksheet for philosophy?
@kurochan_dat90schick5 жыл бұрын
@@himalayfaldu9868 I had a quiz on it the next day and did meh on it... Since it was late while I watched the video and it was a long one too, I had trouble understanding most of the stuff in this piece cause he talks about so much in it ya know? I got an exam Thursday and my teacher said that a question about Socrates Apology will be in it. Hope I do ok on it lol
@beanman3502 жыл бұрын
I forgot to read this for my philosophy class, and I do t have enough time to sit and read. Lucked out with this one
@ReneePsalm18 Жыл бұрын
3:20 personal bookmark
@joshuaginoza94466 жыл бұрын
I think I can hear sargon's kid around the 15:00 mark.
@OilCap Жыл бұрын
Bro I am so confused.
@Derekorbe15 жыл бұрын
which translation is this?
@lover8308 жыл бұрын
This is a different version than i am reading in school. I was trying to follow along but so many words and phrases were different. Although the message is still mostly the same
@JCC-970 Жыл бұрын
You know which translation is the one on this audio?
@_MikeJon_7 жыл бұрын
I wish these were uploaded on sound cloud. KZbin kills my phone battery :(
@StrazdasLT7 жыл бұрын
Since youtube is using unified audio track for all video tracks now, just set it to lowest quality to save data and battery (rendering) without loss of audio quality. Not that youtubes audio quality is good anyway, but for voice its good enough.
@Kombatkegz5 жыл бұрын
Oh shit I didn’t know Carl did this, I was just looking up audiobooks on KZbin
@russellmoore18495 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Keogler I was scrolling through comments for confirmation on this, thank you haha
@ClipCoyote7 жыл бұрын
Hey! My friend Kev is reading this! Bravo!
@jessicawarrior64392 жыл бұрын
I couldn't find the text through the link that you shared. Please share information about the translator so i can download the text as well. Thank you so much for this great read. I just subscribed.
@ProgressiveLiberty7 жыл бұрын
This video only plays in the Chrome browser for some reason.
@TThompson794 жыл бұрын
So very well spoken! Thank you very much.
@memoriesintechnicolour13603 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this
@rephil5138 жыл бұрын
Sargon...I know you're not his biggest fan, but Stefan Molyneux has a really wonderful recitation and analysis of "The Trial and Death of Socrates". It's really quite interesting and worth the listen! In many ways, that event completely shaped western thought, yet so few know about it.
@rephil5138 жыл бұрын
Last thing. I do totally get that you guys have different political perspectives. And I believe I once heard you regard him to be sophistic...fair enough. But you're the kind of patient and inquisitive communicator that I could see enjoying a conversation with him. He's done the same Socrates material, and recently put out an analysis of the Fall of Rome and how it relates to where we are now. I could definitely see you guys meshing on such things, and cordially conversing about differences otherwise. Love to hear what you think...
@sagebias22518 жыл бұрын
i did not like stephans recitation but i would like to hear a discussion of greek philosophy between these two.
@OrthoReadings8 жыл бұрын
+Sage Bias that would be interesting indeed. They're both History majors too I believe.
@danielsmithiv12793 жыл бұрын
The Lord was really moving through Socrates. This is deep
@rexlundstrom23333 жыл бұрын
This suggests, when you think about it, that democracy AKA rule by majority is not the appropriate way to determine the fate of another human being. If it comes down to the majority opinion, those who wish to accuse you can spend much of their time constructing slander, while you are stuck with a small window of defense as Socrates was. Perhaps there is another way that involves an arbiter which both the accuser and the accused agree is a righteous person, instead of a great mob.
@jameseldridge34452 жыл бұрын
The majority is guided by emotions, not logic. That is why US political and judicial system is flawed to its core. For example, having a random selection of jury duty never yields accuracy, only a showcase of the two sides' persuasive abilities. Jurors have no idea how to identify logical fallacies or identifying truth. Lawyers are basically paid liars
@ttacking_you21 күн бұрын
Was it Antigones or Aristophanes who wrote the comic slander that indicted Socrates ? Or was someone else ?
@Johnepumper3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Hesperell6 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this specifically to listen to the words of someone who didn't think he was smarter than he was. The absolute irony of Sarg'n reading as an intellectually humble genius who prized plain-spoken dialectic to rhetoric and appeals to authority, never avoided a discussion or debate, fought against the semantic sophistry of the ecelebs of his day, and when criminally accused of behavior that would now be protected free speech and expression, ultimately accepted the collective judgment of his polis, and in accordance with its laws, went willingly to his death rather than escape.
@sh-hg4eg3 жыл бұрын
"Sarg'n, you're not as clever as you think you are" has to be one of the funniest bloodsport moments in history.
@SnakeWasRight8 жыл бұрын
Who the fuck dislikes this?
@tibfulv8 жыл бұрын
Athenians. :D
@zakuiizaki49388 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this!
@purser15967 жыл бұрын
Please can you do Argonauts of the Western Pacific by Malinowski. Not just because its part of my course or anything...
@metzgerdan4 жыл бұрын
If you listen in headphones with care you can hear Sargon's baby crying from time to time
@weaselingrentler5086 жыл бұрын
why is this an ad?
@orktv46738 жыл бұрын
14:08 "by the dog"???
@Jop3lius8 жыл бұрын
oh dogs, shiba inu was a thing even back then
@orktv46738 жыл бұрын
That clears things up. Thanks for informing me.
@Milos.L6 жыл бұрын
like say "by god," using irony to mock its usage
@douglasjenkins27708 жыл бұрын
Is this Sargon of akkad?
@ryanlira71945 жыл бұрын
yeet
@kabangukabangu25292 жыл бұрын
Can you make it into a podcast?
@randallpetroelje39135 жыл бұрын
Sad, but utterly brilliant. A Greek death haiku of sorts. Thanks!! Thoroughly enjoyed.
@kevinjanok7 жыл бұрын
from me you will hear the whole truth hubris or not
@aquiteobesepig14398 жыл бұрын
Socrates must have married pretty late in his life if two of his sons were still children by the time he went on trial.
@Panthiras_Roz5 жыл бұрын
As a student of ancient Greek (language and philosophy), let me tell you that in ancient Greece women were nothing. Men were having sex with women only to make children and leave to them their "home" (οίκος). Home was like their pride. But men were usually having sex and make orgys with other men during their gods feasts. Also, an interesting information is that education was a little bit strange during these years in Greece. Teachers (not philosophers-teachers like Plato or sophists) were giving lessons to children and teenagers and they were having sex with them too. Their name in Greek is παιδοτριβες (it sounds like pethotrives ). It's like pedophile,which comes from the word παιδι(pedo) and the word φίλος (phile)
@peachesncream42512 жыл бұрын
@@Panthiras_Roz Wow so inaccurate. And you claim to be a "student of ancient Greek" or whatever. Romans are those who you are picturing. Greeks did not penetrate during their affairs. And exactly as you said, παιδοτρίβες, comes from child and τρίβω meaning to rub. The most sexy part in Ancient Greece was thighs, so when they would engage in sexual activities, they would rub their penises in between their thighs. Romans though, did they love penetration. Please abstain from spreading false information you have little knowledge on.
@peachesncream42512 жыл бұрын
@@Panthiras_Roz Reading your name now, I really hope you are not Greek as well.
@ryannorris56353 жыл бұрын
Thank you Socrates. You helped me more that you will ever know; and you apparently know quite a bit...
@jamesbeadenkopf54292 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Julian Assange came and faced his accusors in this way.
@AnatolyPotapov8 жыл бұрын
Really exact translations matter in catching Socrates's many dodges. The best is the Thomas G West one found in _4 Texts on Socrates_. One of the most interesting interpretations is David Leibowitz's _The Ironic Defense of Socrates: Plato's Apology_. If you can't use them because of the copy right, at least you could get a better idea of how to modulate your voice to help bring out the drama in what Socrates is doing in the text you use.
@soverysleepy8 жыл бұрын
of course it sounds better in the original Klingon :)
@HeyImLucious8 жыл бұрын
26min baby sargon strikes?
@avish44212 жыл бұрын
Is there any movie about western political thinkers ? I really wanna watch , if anyone knows , please reply ..
@jameseldridge34452 жыл бұрын
You've got to read philosophy to really understand it.. Plato's Republic, Aritstotle's Politics, etc. A movie removes the logic for the sake of amusement and entertainment. Plato explains why in his book.. check it out
@deplorableamerica46808 жыл бұрын
Early I was looking to see if you had any of the Republic on this channel (other than the cave), what a nice surprise.
@hesultan92228 жыл бұрын
So Socrates was making roasting videos and they called him a cyber bully?
@brig92292 жыл бұрын
Does/Did anyone else consider that when he continued to refer to "The God" instead of "Gods" he meant Jehova?
@Liam-vx8vn2 жыл бұрын
Considering this is ancient Greece, I can only assume that he is referring to Apollo; especially since he mentions the god of Delphi (who is Apollo) being where he was told that there is none wiser than him by/through an oracle. One could assume that God would speak to peoples of other cultures (who were before the covenant of the cross) to prophesy to pagans. But, that would beg the question, why would God allow pagans to believe that other gods are communicating with them rather than letting them know it is He who is communicating with them instead? Letting them continue breaking the Laws already established centuries ago on Sinai to Moses. It would be nice to assume he is speaking of the God of Israel though.
@JayDyer5 жыл бұрын
Is this Sargon?
@hugosolis93636 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the painting
@jmc33677 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha, how to talk yourself into a death sentence, best summary ever....awesome