The AR Tier List

Cringe can strike the same place twice.

[@FocusTripp]

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[@WhiteDragonSecurity]

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[@anon-yw4wd]

@WhiteDragonSecurity KZbin is now a speech gulag.

[@iansanchez331]

🤡🤡KZbin🤡🤡

[@mtnbound2764]

anybody paying $2k for a 5.5" 5.56 deserves to part with their money

[@FocusTripp]

hey....

[@LordHolley]

lol

[@Super61Blackhawk]

Sadly, I have just over $2K in a Radian Model 1, and it's the most accurate, softest shooting, tight-fitting AR-15 that I have ever shot. Otherwise, there are options that are less expensive.

[@jamesstephenson2346]

Well, you overpaid for meme tier guns, but if you are happy..​@@Super61Blackhawk

[@timowens7214]

Aero went down right before covid and never resurfaced unfortunately

[@bobbyberry5559]

1 word. Washington

[@scott2228]

BCM is my benchmark. It’s right where $, quality and performance all fall into line. For each $1 spent above the price of a BCM you might get $0.25 increase in quality and/or performance. IMHO

[@spencer7197]

I bought a triarc as a post deployment gift to myself right before the events of 2020. It was pricey ($2200) Great gun though. Bought a BCM more recently as my second AR. Gotta say, I like the BCM better and it was maybe $1100 after I took advantage of a sale. The law of diminishing returns is very real in the world of ARs

[@mollyboggy4419]

I bought an Aero upper and had buyers remorse when I received it due to the barrel not having a drilled gas port (bolt-action). They did fix it, and now I enjoy it quite a bit, but you shouldn't receive a barrel with no gas port. Thankfully I knew about their BCG issues so I had a Microbest at the ready.

[@FocusTripp]

that's a feature!

[@mtnbound2764]

think about the fact that someone installed the gas block onto the barrel and didnt notice the missing gas port! how do they even make sure they are lined up correctly.....

[@Clockwork0nions]

Bushmaster’s roll mark being so cool puts it in B tier.

[@outboardprsnlstndup]

Lol, i like how bear creek gets its own tier

[@MikoTactical]

I’ve had a bit too much to drink and man that guy’s comment about the free BCM BCG has me DYING LMFAO I can’t wait to see the rest of this

[@0v417]

geissele and larue above LMT, Noveske, LWRC and HK is insane🤣

[@FocusTripp]

I do feel bad about LWRC

[@depthcharge126]

That would actually require LMT/Noveske/LWRC/HK owners to fire more than 50 rounds through them to get data lmfao. I think we accept they are good because it’s been used by the military community to some degree, which is its own fallacy. I’ve seen plenty of end users complain about LMT QC and even seen a Noveske bolt catastrophic failure. Are these lemons or do they make the brands a no go? It seems to be a lot of anecdotes and generalizations

[@chazc933]

LMT has PSA levels of QC. I'd even dare say, PSA has better QC than LMT as of late. It's sad.

[@ST-zm3lm]

HK is too busy getting high off their own farts to provide a good value.

[@urMom4sherriff]

LMT doesn't pay its workers much and is handicapped by location.

[@RuffPup12]

Smacking that gum right in that mic lol.

[@christoperdevore3617]

Sorry I missed the live stream. No apologies necessary for lil dude bro. He was fine. Parenting is a privilege.

[@FocusTripp]

Thanks, agreed.

[@scott2228]

I’m running out of places to hide ARs in the house. Wife thinks I have only 5. Owe how wrong she is. lol.

[@RoofKorean2]

I love Geissele and the REBCG is fantastic. I had one in a custom 13.9 that blew up due to an over pressured round from PMC and not only did Geissele send me a brand new REBCG free of charge despite it not being their fault but also were very responsive and sent me a bunch of swag.

[@ValiantSlothman]

All that matters is the Mass Effect references.

[@erice4611]

Where is PWS & Sionics?

[@timowens7214]

And SOLGW

[@socko2085]

PWS was in A tier.

[@FocusTripp]

We added them at the end.

[@Black_Heart_Defense]

How about silencer co?

[@DrunkDrynasty]

@@Black_Heart_Defensethey only make silencers and lowers

[@jamesbuchanan3145]

The guy who said Aero is *above* S&W is out of his mind.

[@FocusTripp]

well...

[@Varrylickers]

Larue was S tier before Mark got butthurt by everyone shitting on the c note and doubled his prices. Now it’s A

[@donaldist7321]

wait for offers. I bought a complete upper in June 2021 for 710 bucks.

[@bobbyberry5559]

Primary Arms has deals often on their uppers

[@FocusTripp]

Deals still exist on some of the top brands.

[@Quality_Guru]

I jumped in half way, but did hear about the great deal on the Geissele Automatics Super Duty rifle for $1,200. Where can I find a deal like that?

[@FocusTripp]

It was on Geissele's website I believe. It's a temporary sale, they do 3-4 a year I think.

[@Quality_Guru]

@@FocusTripp Thanks - Super Duty MOD1 Rifle, 16", 5.56MM-Black is back up $1,995. I’ll just wait till they have another sale.

[@samiam278]

Where would you rank Blackout Defense? Really like my DTL, trigger seems elite as well.

[@MarketAndChurch]

Hopefully you get a Type-A and Blackout Defense on the channel in addition to Noveske and Radian. Noveske and Radian are definitely A+ tier. PWS and VSeven definitely need to be on your next list.

[@FocusTripp]

Noveske soon, I am not a huge fan of Type A.

[@nunyabiznes32]

Radian is definitely S-tier. No comparison.

[@larsonhomeinspection9932]

Great vid my fellow German brethren . I own a BCM, Daniel Defense, FN, LWRC and PWS. Def A-tier value!

[@slowmo7500]

I def agree with the Geissele placement. They are nice. And getting their triggers and reliability enhanced BCGs is huge value added. Most of us put them in our rifles that we buy from anyone else lol. I’d bet 80% of the guys posting here have Geissele triggers in their guns..or wish they did.🤓

[@ethan5.56]

I love my rosco k9 12.5 barrel but I wish they'd do it in something besides stainless steel in the series. I do appreciate the nitride finish though. I also love my 16 inch faxon pencil barrel. It has been a great performer for me in my lightweight rifle build. I've had a couple BCA uppers that ran great but I've definitely seen a lot of people have issues with them. I personally like to assemble my own rifles now though rather than buy a complete upper. Might have to buy one of your dissipators though haha. I do have a KE arms kp15 lower that has a lot of rounds through it and it works great. Its not the wwsd ambi lower. It takes triggers just fine and made a sweet lightweight rifle build. Great video

[@FocusTripp]

If they make a 4150 version of the barrel I will buy more of them.

[@thetallone7605]

I got a psa upper during covid and have about a thousand rounds through it over the past 4 years with no issues. I would gladly buy another upper from them again, and if I have to give it a look over I’ll chalk it up to a learning experience. I like to tinker. I have heard the horror stories of their qc though, so I like to think I’m not walking into it blind. That said, I also wouldn’t mind getting an upper from BCM or focus.

[@DrunkDrynasty]

BCM, PWS, ADM, Geissele, Centurion - would all be good options for complete uppers.

[@geminiclouda.d755]

Bear creek " Trash Can " 😂

[@wrath7879]

DANIEL DEFENSE B TIER WAAAAAT HATING THE RIS II WAAAT THE FOOK ITS PERFECT

[@FocusTripp]

Ris is a mediocre rail. Furniture is mediocre, everything else is fine.

[@cialee1989]

Primary Arms still ships whatever you need to Washington State. You must affirm a disclaimer before they ship, but they will ship what you need. Just know your State and Local laws and regulations.

[@A-PatrioT]

What about NY?

[@cialee1989]

@@A-PatrioT not sure. I actually called them and asked about what it is they are willing to ship out. Optics Planet just took a sh!t on us and won't ship anything. I also called my local gun shops and spoke to staff about aspects of our recent AWB. There is much confusion due to vagueness of the law, in terms of our ability to buy PARTS for rifles like the AR15. Basically everyone is using their own discretion in terms of interpreting the law. Some are willing to take the risk of selling parts within the state. Some refuse to chance it, other may provide limited items such as Barrels and Bolt Carrier Groups. Basically anything that is essential to the construction of an AR15 or its derivatives is off the table. Some places will still sell muzzle devices, collapsible stocks, buffer tubes, safeties, pistol grips, charging handles and so on. In other words, many are assuming the "Right to repair", while others simply refuse to take the risk. Speak to your local dealers, then call Primary Arms to see what they can do.

[@scott2228]

This is what I’m worried about in Colorado. That companies will just cut ties.

[@scott_hunts]

Good to know. Will have to keep that in mind,

[@65thhitman86]

Your thumb nail almost had me about to loose my shit over LWRC..LOL..also I'd rather have over gas then a rifle that cant shoot through tough elements. But that's me

[@FocusTripp]

Yeah, that was the bait.

[@65thhitman86]

@@FocusTripp you're a slippery one..lol

[@John_439]

BA barrels are A but everything else is low B also no qc.

[@gator7082]

what do you know about their bolt groups?

[@TheGrimiest]

I love the m4e1 lowers tho. I use those and bcm stripped uppers in every build. Never had an issue from the lowers

[@John_439]

@@TheGrimiest true I do like their lowers but then again a lower is a lower as long as it is to spec. It isn't like barrels and bcg. You just have yo treat them like they are, a parts company. If you buy full gun you basically just disassemble it and rebuild doing your own qc.

[@John_439]

@@gator7082 They are fine if you check them over and make sure everything is staked properly and fits etc... Again B is fine for most uses it just isn't up there with LaRue, BCM, knights. I just treat BA or Aero as a parts company if you buy a upper take it apart do your own qc and put it back together with loctite and the correct torque specs. Their lowers and upper receivers are great. I love BA hanson barrels for the money especially on sale or used but basically new. I don't really like their rails they are a little to lightweight (more fore competition) and don't inspire confidence when it comes to durability but they lock up ok and don't rotate. The rest is a wash.

[@rsagmil]

Would love to see you do a review of an Adams arms piston upper

[@jakemiles8070]

I was under the impression the bad QC was a few years ago. Now the QC is back

[@karlchristie1856]

The LWRC DI is the most slept on rifle on the market. Their BCG's are probably the best.

[@A-PatrioT]

Debatable

[@FocusTripp]

I think I like the REBCG more from Geissle, but LWRC is great.

[@justanotherinternetexpert7743]

Pof-usa does not make them anymore but they used to have a D.I. BCG That was NP3+ coated was a one piece carrier design like LWRCs(w/ built in gas key), had their patented roller cam pin and a NP3+ coated bolt, now that IMO was the best D.I. BCG on the market for a long time. They still make their piston bcg's like that. .......LWRC has a really nice BCG as well tho, I stuck a POF-USA roller cam pin in mine and it really does smooth out the action alittle bit. But the coating lwrc uses is really good, but it is still inferior to the NP3+ Robar coating. Other then that the two are very similar BCGs..... ...As far as the Giessle BCG goes I have no experience with it, but when they say Reliablity Enhanced I don't know what that means other then they put their own type of coating on it. Other then that it looks pretty plain Jane to tell you the truth. Idk, I am not really impressed with Giessle, I think most of their products including their triggers are over hyped. And over priced, and that is from A guy that does not mind spending $2-3k on a gun that is worth it.

[@FocusTripp]

materials, coating, and geometries are better.

[@justanotherinternetexpert7743]

@@FocusTripp I don't know about all that, I guess we just gonna have to agree to disagree. I am really convinced there is a brand loyalty Bias in the gun community when it comes to Giessle products. But hey I am sure I have my own biases as well.

[@studderingredneck408]

Do you ship uppers your home state of WA?

[@FocusTripp]

do I ship piece of metal to WA? yes.

[@studderingredneck408]

@@FocusTripp thank you for being cool and supporting out 2A rights. PSA and a lot of other company’s flat out won’t anymore because of the “ban”, even if you state it’s for repairs.

[@stevenkennedy4130]

Looks like it was a fun one. Thanks for the share!!

[@healthfreak79]

Was the geissele rifle sale in their own web site? Thats a killer deal. Thank you.

[@FocusTripp]

Yes it was.

[@coal_tactical]

anderson sport upper is the best fitting upper ive tried its my fave, not billet and forged 7075 but is exactly an a2 upper but without forward assist done with billet after handguard fit problems

[@tyrellandonmorris07]

We need a video about why you don’t like Type A.

[@FocusTripp]

:)

[@nathant3897]

If you haven’t tried blackout then you need to get on that. Probably the best innovations in the AR rifle in the last two decades

[@coal_tactical]

cmmg has fixed my 22 bolt twice first a broken barrel collar which was the fault of an out of spec beyer barrel and also the weld breaking on the back after 10k rounds at least, both times for free and the rdb 8 inch bolt and barrel is awesome

[@FocusTripp]

Good to hear.

[@brandonchandler9032]

Im in SC. Psa or any ffl out of state can't sell to you but if it's legal in your state they can ship it to your ffl in your state.

[@rsagmil]

Would love to see an Adams arms piston upper review.

[@gulkash1188]

Describing the fact that you've shot a lot of customers DD rifles as "HAD TO" shoot it...rofl

[@FocusTripp]

I said what I said!

[@jonred6870]

My first AR was the Ruger 556. I still have it and it still works, but the QC on it is terrible. The amount of slop between the upper and lower is laughable. And the Ruger furniture they put on it has long since broken off. The best thing to come out of it was that it helped to teach me about gunsmithing and what to look out for on low quality ARs.

[@FocusTripp]

That's what my first ARs did as well.

[@Way2Evl]

Id love to see a barrel tier list. A lot of them are all so close, it would be nice to see an objectified opinion on them.

[@FocusTripp]

Very Possible.

[@hannibalbarca2939]

@@FocusTripp Please tell me you've tried a few hodge barrels.

[@FocusTripp]

I don't yet.

[@ninjadave1970]

I wonder how Cobalt Kinetics rates on your list?

[@FocusTripp]

I need more experience, but I would imagine high tier.

[@PA-jw6fo]

Thumbs up for Mass Effect music

[@jimziogas8978]

Aero is C, but they’ve probably sold more civilian rifles than everyone else put together by now…I’d love to see a total lowers sold comparison.

[@FocusTripp]

I don't think they outsell PSA.

[@jimziogas8978]

@@FocusTripp like I said. I’d love to see total numbers

[@stevef4930]

I would guess Smith and Wesson with the mp series

[@karlchristie1856]

Where in the world did you find a Geissele for $1,200???

[@ReticentIndignation]

I believe primary arms literally a wek ago had some Luna Black Superduty rifles in 16" for like 1252$...sadly I was late to the party, they were sold out

[@karlchristie1856]

@@ReticentIndignation Eh, I just ordered my first from Munition Works. A J.O.E. with a special request of putting a Centurion CHF barrel in it. Dane has been super helpful. Including a discount it was only $1,155!

[@ReticentIndignation]

@@karlchristie1856 RIght on, custom put together is preferable in my opinion. I did buy a Superduty for well under MSRP and I was honestly underwhelmed as the quality wasn't 'perfect.' Not a bad gun by any means, just expected more from an MSRP of $2250. I wouldn't do it again...

[@FocusTripp]

That's a good dealio

[@marcusborderlands6177]

@@karlchristie1856 Munition works is fantastic

[@Diceman12100]

Im not understanding your explanation on the LWRC, you said Geissele is S tier and LWRC is not, but Geissele rifles are over-gassed more then the LWRC. I own both, once my super duty barrel gets hot that group opens up, My LWRC gets hot the group stays alot tighter, and the reason being is the heavy barrel. If a smaller contour barrel gets hot, the group opens up, if a heavy barrel gets hot thats built of quality, the heavy barrel hold groups better. Does my Geissele run like a well oiled machine absolutely, but i hold a 3oc pattern with my LWRC with zero malfunctions, my super duty is 2oc with 3 or 4 stoppages, PMC runs fine in my LWRC, run it through my Super Duty and every now and then she gets a bit unhappy with the PMC. I guess its pretty much preference. Good vid.

[@FocusTripp]

My LWRCs were much more over gassed than my Geisseles. I also have had that accuracy issue

[@Diceman12100]

I'm the opposite, my Geissele is gassier then my LWRC, cold bore my Geissele is a touch more accurate, after about 2 or 3 mags, my LWRC is a lot more accurate.

[@garypinholster1962]

Wild to see how many people have issues with aero stuff. I have thousands of rounds thru my all aero build. Hasnt had a hiccup.

[@FocusTripp]

That's the thing about QC, 8 out of 10 peoples stuff could be great and the other 2 could be complete garbage

[@protectpersevere2030]

Missed the live but great talk guys

[@ReticentIndignation]

Interesting that you placed POF so high...My first AR was a Renegade+. It's my least used rifle. Has a sweet ambi lower but just don't really care about it for some reason. Doesn't seem as accurate as the uppers I have with Geissele or BCM barrels or even the Rosco Purebred 13.7". The gas system on the POF is pretty cool idea if you're a suppressed shooter. I figured they were more 'B' or 'C' tier. Not sure I'd put Geissele in 'S' tier or Larue. I'm not sure anyone belongs there. I'd love to try a LaRue, supposedly they're suuuper accurate, but I don't know anyone with one or who has shot one. Thanks for the vid!

[@FocusTripp]

Thanks for watching! if you ever need someone to test out that POF just let me know!

[@slowmo7500]

Same..just never get excited for a POF. Solid guns but it’s just something funky about them.🤷‍♂️

[@justanotherinternetexpert7743]

Pof-USA makes some of the best rifles on the market, with every aspect of their rifles having some upgrade done to it. Many of those upgrades are copied by other companies in the industry, they have won numerous industry awards for their D.I rifles and their piston driven rifles. If you honestly think BCM, or Rosco is in the same class as POF-USA I don't know how to help you. The Renegade plus is one of the best factory made rifles on the market.

[@ReticentIndignation]

@@justanotherinternetexpert7743 Perhaps it's because POF today, just isn't the same with the loss of Frank DeSomma. Marketing seems lacking, the competition is fierce and saturated, I haven't seen a whole lot of innovation as of late from them (maybe marketing?). I may try again but It didn't seem to be as accurate a rifle as the FocusShootingLLC 13.7 upper I purchased at 100 yards, maybe that was me though. Maybe I just need another trigger. Sending it to Jonathan sounds interesting since it's a safe queen.

[@justanotherinternetexpert7743]

@ReticentIndignation ok I will admit I am a pretty big fan of POF-USA, ....BUT I have not bought a rifle from them since before Frank Past away, I own Four of their AR Type rifles/pistols: 16" P308 EDGE(piston driven)in .308/7.62×51 12.5" Revolution (piston driven)in .308/7.62 10.5" P415 EDGE(piston driven)in 5.56 10.5" RenegadePlus(D.I.) in .300blk Three of them were bought while Frank was alive and running the show, and the Revolution was actually in the mail being shipped to my local FFL when the news hit that Frank had passed away, so I have nothing look at to see if their quality control has gone down after he left, I don't think it has. Because it was always a family run business and the rest of the family is still there, I believe. All that being said, the Phoenix 9mm PCC h should have been delayed blowback or gas run somehow, and they should have started with 45acp or 10mm even. And that Peice of crap lever gun they put out never should have seen the light of day. Hahaha! ......BUT that does not mean their AR pattern guns, piston and D.I. are bad guns.

[@chrisjm981]

How did Spike's make it to C? I thought you gave it a B?

[@brandonchandler9032]

Nemo makes some great stuff.

[@G.W-01]

Not sure about complete ar15's but im certain focus shooting llc uppers are at least for me are top tier.

[@4RunnerRigatoni]

No Griffin Armament or Triarc Systems?

[@FocusTripp]

We talk about them towards the end.

[@4RunnerRigatoni]

@@FocusTripp just saw. You mentioned griffin but never placed them

[@FocusTripp]

A- tier.

[@vicerichter1163]

its funny when you put Knights Arnament and Larue as the best rifle systems on the market when both of those companies make their products at prices nobody can afford. So I'll just take my DD instead. Lmao

[@fetti4real]

I know they don’t build full rifles but where would Criterion barrels go on this list?

[@jc8491]

Probably S or A tier. ADM, which is A tier, uses Criterion barrels, and I would say Criterion barrels are better than Geisseles and LaRues, which are S tier.

[@FocusTripp]

High Tier.

[@tophergauruder3647]

I think Geissele gets so much hate because of bill’s weirdness, and how pricy the ssa is. I think Geissele was well placed. On a side note how often do you see full rifles from companies like KAC, LWRC, Larue, or Radian? I hear about them a lot online but I don’t think I’ve seen a single one in person. I’m slightly convinced that they only exist online for people to argue about on ig.

[@FocusTripp]

I haven only ever seen a few in person. But yeah, Bill is a strange man.

[@nicholasemerson9852]

No solgw on the list.....this whole rating system is meme tier......

[@feetoorourke7152]

Made it in at the end

[@nathant3897]

Aero supposedly changed companies that were producing their bolts because of QC issues which they should have done long before. I kinda think Anderson provides better value with the lowers being cheaper and produced with the higher grade aluminum 7075. I haven’t been impressed with my bear creek barrel. It’s a ss with ungodly tool marks it looks like utter garbage. Rosco and ballistic advantage has been great so far. Well priced, minimal tool marks, accurate and well priced so the value is there. I have really been enjoying the rosco k9 sage dynamic barrel. The way they moved the weight back to balance it has been really nice

[@caesarselfreliance.4081]

LWRC in my biased opinion makes the most insanely reliable rifles on the planet, and that over gassed system contributes to that dependability:

[@FocusTripp]

I have never had an issue with mine.

[@mtnbound2764]

Ballistic and Aero make great parts for a home build.

[@FocusTripp]

Agreed

[@jimziogas8978]

Value

[@JP-yt3nk]

Bought a "freedom" milspec lower and got a free upper. And bought a 20" fluted stainless barrel with a nickel boron chamber, on clearance for 165. $100 for a nickel boron PSA bolt. JP adj block. A5 buffer and a MBT2 Larue trigger. Stngnr Vulcan handguard. 1.5" with surplus 55gr. Tight receiver fit, jacking screw removes all play. Tight barrel fit, had to heat the receiver a little for some expansion. All around good value. Entire build minus scope and bipod $1100.

[@C3lluloid]

Ah no live chat replay?

[@FocusTripp]

YT is screwing up rn.

[@grandlifeaj8337]

Please get your hands on unbranded AR ... they also have an carbon(polymer) lower

[@FocusTripp]

...

[@jdtaverni]

Geissele S tier, agree.

[@FocusTripp]

based

[@robertclewell7305]

Where would you put Centurion Arms

[@FocusTripp]

No experience but a lot of questions about them.

[@robertbacon1657]

BCM has the best value in my opinion

[@LowQuatsSquats7529]

So I'll argue that Colt should be up in A or S tier. At least for my state just from the stand point of 1 you'll always get a MPI bolt head out of the box since those are always pulled off the military assembly line same with their Uppers those are M4 marked meaning real M4 contract uppers built to Technical data package spec. And 2 Colt is one of the few companies that make a "non" heavy heavy barrel with their Socom heavy profile which in my state all AR's must have a heavy profile barrel and marketed as having a HBar which the Socom Heavy is a government profile barrel with a bit more meat near the barrel nut under the handguard. Add those up and that it comes from an actual company and Colt for me in my state is and A-S tier manufacturer unless you build one yourself using Gucci parts and get a heavy barrel put in it.

[@theduck17]

Old Colt yes, current Colt belongs C tier.

[@KevinWood44]

Which state is this?

[@LowQuatsSquats7529]

@@KevinWood44 Maryland

[@LowQuatsSquats7529]

@@theduck17 See I don't think so, I got my M4 carbined marked CR6920 before CZ bought into Colt and comparing the fit and finish to the FN MD HBar it was leaps and bounds better. The fitment of the upper and lower was tight like no wiggle or slop unlike the FN which no joke you could if you twisted the upper and lower you could have fit a dime in the gap between the receiver sections. The finish on the FN also rubbed away very easily just from handling and storage maybe that's because of the Samson rail just being shit but the Colt was nicer. AndI agree old Colt is way nicer I also have a 1986 preban and running the charging handle and bolt feels like it's on glass because it's so smooth.

[@FocusTripp]

I wish Colt was better.

[@charlesm.2756]

I agree with the Aero rating when it comes to everything but their stripped upper/lower receivers. For home builds, their uppers and lowers are legit. Would definitely get everything else...elsewhere.

[@jc8491]

The Atlas R-One is my favorite rail. It's definitely not going to be the strongest rail, but I don't run IR, lasers or anything that needs crazy strong rails anyway. It's the best looking and pretty much the lightest weight until you start getting into carbon fiber stuff. But yeah, I would still avoid Aero barrels, BCGs and LPKs.

[@BafflingBS]

Best bang for the buck: BCM

[@ThatGuy-kf7fo]

BCM is the all around best to me. Excellent quality and assembly, nothing proprietary, and complete rifles can be had for $12-1300 (buy uppers and lowers seperate). IWI should be B for sure, especially if S&W is.

[@DrunkDrynasty]

I didn’t watch the entire video. But why do you have Geissele in S-tier, but LMT, LWRC in A-tier? And HK in C-tier? Because they’re expensive or hard to get? These are getting obscure but are all make good rifles. Yes, some aren’t DI AR15s readily available in the US, but if you’re going to include HK and PWS, you might as well include them: Caracal, Haenel, Schmeisser, Sako, B&T, Barrett, and soon Beretta. Also PRI, Sionics, Hodge, and (Canadian) Colt.

[@ForceRecon112]

Also zev bought mega. the owner of mega, the man that made mega what it was, left and founded icon defense.

[@Sprice93USAF]

Sionics and centurion deserve to be here.

[@FocusTripp]

I need to get some

[@jadonpossinger7953]

from how bad my banshee has been reliability wise. c or d.

[@FocusTripp]

Send it to me ;)

[@wisco_guy]

Yep, mine was the most unreliable gun I’ve ever owned.

[@literallynobody1515]

No POF?

[@FocusTripp]

We added it later on.

[@literallynobody1515]

@@FocusTripp Found it super late in the video, thank you!

[@alancarr3381]

Thanks

[@thaddeusmiller2556]

No JP or Adams Arms?

[@FocusTripp]

Definitely should have put JP, I haven't tried Adams yet.

[@grandlifeaj8337]

Mas defense is another company i would love to see a review on... their bcg's sound decent on paper

[@austinboston5643]

I had a faux dissy upper from PSA as my first thing ever I bought from them. Shit could hit straight and couldn't be zeroed. Fsb was canted to shit and had to wait a month to get it back. It works but I'm never buying anything from PSA ever again. They're hucksters as far as I'm concerned.

[@chuckfinley3152]

A lot of these companies don’t manufacture anything lol, they just buy from an oem and slap a label on it. Some will do in house QC, or pay for a high level of QC from the oem though.

[@FocusTripp]

A lot them do make changes to the products.

[@jacobk1160]

For anyone curious about Centurion Arms, the guy takes FN barrels and improves upon them, making them more modern. The uppers are damn good, and they’d be solidly in A tier.

[@FocusTripp]

Good to know.

[@jacobk1160]

@@FocusTripp Love your videos man. You’re one of the good ones! Would be cool to see you review a Centurion upper since you’ve got experience with “regular” FN product. Really don’t think you’d be disappointed

[@FocusTripp]

@@jacobk1160 I'll see man!

[@MagicPrepper]

I had issues with an Aero upper. I contacted customer service, sent videos of the issue and.... they ghosted me. But according to the comments section, it was a me problem obviously ;)

[@FocusTripp]

Yikes haha, lots of simps for lots of companies in here.

[@MagicPrepper]

@FocusTripp it's part of the deal I guess. Good stream 👍

[@FocusTripp]

@@MagicPrepper Thanks!

[@jordanragin1615]

PSA is at least C

[@NoNameTesla]

C for Cope and Ceeeth get gud

[@boomerisadog3899]

Agreed, but bottom of C tier.

[@James13234]

@@boomerisadog3899to be fair they span from trash tier all the way to B for certain things like sabre m110 and psa10

[@cyber_crypto]

Springfield Saint and Saint Edge puts them in C tier.

[@FocusTripp]

I have heard mixed things about their rifles.

[@hannibalbarca2939]

Geissele is S tier. Show me two broken REBCGs. Just show me two. Anyone? They've been around for 5 years.

[@FocusTripp]

agreed

[@RoofKorean2]

I hade one break but my entire rifle blew up. Massively overcharged round that blew my upper apart. Geissele not only sent me a brand new REBCG free of charge but also a bunch of patches.

[@kellym3531]

I buy from BCM, quality parts and fast shipping because they are within 200 miles.

[@FocusTripp]

It's always nice to be close to a company.

[@timowens7214]

No SOLGW ?

[@FocusTripp]

We added it at the end.

[@jimziogas8978]

Nah

[@slowmo7500]

They’re underrated for sure.

[@kylesmith7733]

Waiting for your jaeger L uppers to come back In stock!

[@FocusTripp]

I am sorry it has taken so long.

[@rgbroady]

Do a pistol tier!!

[@FocusTripp]

We will.

[@mtnbound2764]

i really want one of the saint .308 pistols that they sold at one point. actually i take that back I'd rather spend that money on a M1A tanker.

[@Evan-rv9ox]

I think the issues with these lists is a lack of codified definitions for each category with examples. Eg B tier is a reliable rifle that an off the rack rifle would complete some defined standard. (Eg. A rifle someone could take into combat) A and and S should be held for innovation or setting an industry standard. Then C and below could be held for hobby grade or below.

[@FocusTripp]

Sure, this list isn't super serious and I don't have enough experience with every brand to give them a proper rating.

[@Evan-rv9ox]

@@FocusTripp certainly, as this wasn’t a feedback on the quality of your list in particular but this whole tiering in general done by youtubers. Also, I think there will be people who make purchasing decisions on how to spend their money based on your list recommendations, so at least that level of seriousness.

[@mikereilly6894]

im not seeing US Arms or Blackout defense....2 of the best

[@FocusTripp]

No experience.

[@warehousejunkie1272]

Got my Ruger for $600 in 2023, ~1500 rds, 0 malfunctions

[@FocusTripp]

good deal.

[@TheCamaro5]

I have a bushmaster and a adams arms. Fast forward to day now i have two adams arms. probably never going back to a a gas gun,

[@lostinthewoods1026]

Wilson combat?

[@riu.1180]

Anyone have experience with Grid Defense?

[@FocusTripp]

not yet.

[@triviszla1536]

Did not know ballistic advantage was a sister company

[@FocusTripp]

BA, Aero, Stag

[@Super61Blackhawk]

​@@FocusTrippand VG6 Precision. I think White Wolf Capitol is the parent company.

[@hannibalbarca2939]

HOW DID YOU NOT INCLUDE HODGE?!?

[@FocusTripp]

No experience.