The Arnside Tide Warning Siren 2014

Morecambe Bay has some of the most dangerous tides in Britain. Colin Berry has the responsibility of operating the Arnside Tide Siren. He talks about his work in this short video.

[@AutoUnder]

It would be better if the siren played a voice announcement after sounding as it might prevent people from walking back out again; it is a Hormann so it is capable of that

[@sj460162]

Sounds eerie. This stretch of water always fascinates

[@ZaphodBeeb1]

I thought the times were a bit confusing as given during the conversation, but I guess the bore can vary a lot depending on winds and the amount of flow coming down the river. As I understand it the first siren means the bore will be there in a half hour or so and the second siren means the bore is imminent.

[@ImCarolB]

My father and I visited his cousins in England several years ago. They took us on a short trip to Arnside and explained the sirens as well as the awful tragedy of the people who drowned some time before that. Now I live on the Bay of Fundy which has great tide levels, but not the other dangers of the sea bed.

[@ashpollen65]

Hey! I was fortunate to see the Bay of Fundy tide coming in, beautiful Canada!

[@michaelcraig9449]

Do they have sirens at Fundy to warn everyone about the tides? Can you be drowned fast by incoming tides at Fundy, and other places near there with real high tides, do all those places have these sirens?

[@bmolitor615]

that sounds like my cat telling me about how we are NOT actually going to the vet. But then we go to vet anyhow despite the siren.

[@MervynPartin]

Have the same problem with idiots around the North West Norfolk coast. They ignore all the warnings because it won't happen to them, so the Hunstanton RNLI Hovercraft gets a lot of use each summer.

[@MAC0071234]

Ah yes, morons who cannot design a better warning system calling EVERYONE idiot. It must be nice having a government job.

[@Saucyakld]

We have Manukau Harbour here in Auckland, just as treacherous. My children and us drive to the other calm side of Auckland with safer beaches! My husband never launches his boat there either, he says it's treacherous

[@williammonaghan3724]

I've seen the bore come in, by golly they aren't joking either! :)

[@DDG2023]

How wude! He might go on a bit, but he's quite interesting and not at all boring! 😛

[@billsmith305]

lovely place to fish and enjoy the pub,, ,if it's still there, lovely place

[@davidchamberlain8910]

Good video. Thanks.

[@Bernard-fo2qo]

The siren sounds like an angry cat, low and growling in it's stomach, getting ready to pounce and fight. Here Kitty, meeeooooowwww.

[@moonlight_r5622]

I love waking up at method fell in caravan at the method fell site and hearing this around 9am

[@himssendol6512]

Visitors and tourist won’t know what the siren means. A voice announcement would be more effective i think.

[@sarac.3259]

And for foreigners? I would hope that there are notices too.

[@Ihatewater9000]

@@shinrapresident7010 I would think that horn should be enough to tell people to get out, it even sounds scary!

[@user-it7lf7kk8m]

Probably carries further than a voice announcement. Up to visitors to find out local conditions for their own safety

[@penelopelopez8296]

That’s horrifying.

[@michaelcraig9449]

SO do they ring this twice every day, or just now and then when the tide is real high for some reason?

[@dylannnnnnnnn]

Twice a day I live here and it's always a nice sound to hear.

[@shanelleswain1414]

Wow

[@Alji3dom]

I nearly got caught out in morcambe bay. You dont see the gullies till its to late and the quick sand!!. It took me 40 minutes to get back to dry solid ground. Terrifying!. When your out there, there is no sound and even if you shouted it would be dampened by the bay. Ive seen the sea come in once with waves as high as ten foot traveling as fast as a car with the wind behined it. The sound is a massive Rush of sound. You have to respect the sea especially in morcambe bay.

[@englandballvlogs2150]

Heard that today

[@piggypiggypig1746]

So you hear the siren but don't know if it's the first or second warning.

[@dylannnnnnnnn]

It's quite obvious if you see a large wave it's the second siren. I live here so i might be biased but it's easy to tell.

[@bretthess6376]

1:28 the closed caption says "ken's buying condom." I rather doubt that was said.

[@hmsirensandfirealarms]

Sounds exactly like Grangemouth's MICC sirens! Hörmann ECNs

[@chrisdabrit123]

i want to try and surf it, i'm a pretty good kitesurfer, just starting surfing, thought it'd be a good place to start ?

[@tombowman5281]

Are you mad its like one of the most dangerous places in the country

[@chrisdabrit123]

@@tombowman5281 you'd only get washed up the estuary wouldnt ya?

[@banjopete]

@@chrisdabrit123 there’s only one way to find out, the Darwin method!

[@chrisdabrit123]

@@banjopete dont tempt me, i'm stupid ...... :)

[@GarethT902]

@@chrisdabrit123unless your experienced give it a wide berth. In fact don't even try it til you have had plenty of practice somewhere safer.

[@roballen5720]

There's a map of the North Island of NZ at 2.17. Te Ika A Maui

[@ruivam]

I have 2 questions: 1- Do quicksands "work" underwater? What I mean is, if you are in a river and step on a spot where there was quicksand before the tidal rose, will it still get you and make you sink? Or its mechanism eventually change as long as the quicksand is underwater after some time? That is, if I enter a full river, do I run the risk of stepping on submerged quicksand and die? 2- What would be a hidden channel?

[@aaronwilson9465]

It is possible to still sink in quicksand when underwater as humans are more dense than water and can still sink. The main threat is being trapped in the quicksand whilst the tide comes in. In my experience, a hidden channel is a deeper section of water which is not visible from the surface.

[@ruivam]

@@aaronwilson9465 but as you walk through it during low tide, wouldn't it be expected for you to notice a channel as you step in some deeper area? 🤔 I think I'm not picturing it yet.

[@empanada65]

It depends on how much water there is. Quicksand itself only really becomes a problem when the sand or dirt is very deep and thin enough to trap your entire body in a relatively short time or if you’re stuck alone and the tide is rolling in, but the truth of the matter is that dying in quicksand is even less of a risk if you know how to take care of it. Humans are less dense than dirt and the vast majority of people float in water, so quicksand, which is made of dirt and water, is not something you can easily sink completely into anyway. If you add in water, assuming it’s not an unbelievably scary tidal bore like the one in the video, it will actually it make it a bit easier to get out of quicksand. The mechanism of quicksand doesn’t change when it is underwater since it remains saturated with water regardless of wether it is underwater. What does change is the way that you as a person interact with the quicksand. Assume that you are knee deep in some quicksand and the water is up to your waist. To free yourself, all you would need to do is sit down and wiggle your legs. As you wiggle your legs the soil immediately around your legs will liquefy faster than the rest of the soil and the soil by your knee, at the barrier between the soil and the water, is liquefying even faster because it is over saturated by the overabundant water above it. The soil around your knee then turns to a similar consistency of water and becomes less like watery dirt and more like dirty water, this process will move all the way down your legs as the water creeps into the space between your legs and the quicksand making it easier for you to move. The only thing preventing you from completely pulling your legs out at that point is the form of your leg left in the mud not being ideal for pulling an entire foot through it. Of course, with less amounts of water, the effect is lessened and the more it behaves like normal quicksand, so it really depends. However, so long as the tide isn’t too fast, you should be perfectly capable of freeing yourself from quicksand before it poses a danger to your life. Of course, most people aside from the extremely kinky that seek out these mud holes for their naked kinky purposes tend to stay away from quicksand as a precaution because you never know what might happen, and even though the steps to getting out of quicksand are easy, it usually leves you very exhausted which isn’t exactly a help if getting away from a rising tide is your next immediate goal. I hope this helped.

[@ruivam]

@@empanada65 yes, this helped a lot! Thank you for the lesson. And yeah, I know about the people with "kinky purposes"... haha, I've seen a few here on YT. 🙄 Well, knowing that there are even submerged quicksands just confirms the conclusion I had already come to: lakes and rivers are dangerous as hell for this and many other reasons. The sea doesn't have all those lakes and rivers traps, so I'll keep the sea, thank you.

[@mariahlehman9777]

My understanding of the hidden channels here are that at low tide you cannot tell that there are channels bordering the bay that will fill first behind you while you are still on dry land in the middle, cut off now from safety and yet possibly still unaware that the tide is about to come in and get you and that there is already no where for you to run.

[@barbarariley3488]

People can be so foolish.

[@888ssss]

GERROFF THE BLOODY SAND - by order - council of tarts.

[@amerocker]

Council of Tarts?! WTF??? ☺😀😁😂

[@carolineclark5369]

super scary how fast it comes in... and there are quicksands?! not a place i would want to venture

[@dylannnnnnnnn]

I surfed on the bore a couple of days ago actually on my paddle board. Great fun if you know what you're doing.

[@bestamerica]

' beautifully tide water wave is comming comming to the shore land

[@KatherineUribe-1]

Some folks just don't listen.

[@carolineclark5369]

20 knots speed pretty dicey, though, if something were to go wrong -debri in water knocking u over or whatever... has anyone been attacked by a shark by the incoming??!

[@greggreg2263]

I am a subscriber 421🍺

[@leakoe3797]

If that siren goes..then get out run for cover...

[@jezcolborne9596]

Another hormann siren yay

[@christophersorrentino1271]

That may be an English accent, but it's not the Englush language!!

[@Volcano-Man]

No its Lancashire/Cumbria dialect!

[@thomasmint1761]

My wife also, is a giant bore

[@nunyabizznizz7326]

how many idiots died before they had to add a siren?

[@sarac.3259]

I'm not sure, but there was the very sad case of the cockle pickers wasn't there, somewhere around Morecambe Bay.

[@TheMW2informer]

The tide doesn’t come in THAT quick.

[@fredbloggs5902]

Agreed. I suspect he was exaggerating, but he was making the point that it travels faster at the sides and cuts you off, plus he mentioned that the effects of wind can speed it up. I believe the Arnside Bore more typically travels at around ten mph.

[@halibut1249]

Unfortunately this vid doesn't show how much higher the warned of tide is, or what the ensuing damage or loss of life might be. It's all guesswork.

[@lorrainewade6956]

I would tell all visitors not to go there at any time

[@muzzmacc6411]

Surfs up🤪

[@t5jerry]

why talk in KNOTS, why not talk in MPH when WARNING people which EVERYBODY understands !!!!!!!

[@greensteve9307]

LOL, only the USA and old folks in England use miles.

[@roythearcher]

@@greensteve9307 everyone in England uses miles!

[@______-xh4pn]

It’s 23 mph, which a fast & fit person could technically outrun.

[@t5jerry]

@@______-xh4pn um, Usain bolt ran at 27MPH, so you think most "fit" people can run slightly slower than he did, I think Knot !!!

[@paulegerton1583]

A knot is one nautical mile an hour. So he is talking in MPH

[@kevindunlap5525]

Show us the footage when the idiots have taunted Mother Nature just 1 second too long.

[@addo2419]

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[@dylannnnnnnnn]

I can take you to the churchyard?

[@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm]

another bloody talk over with a pommie what a waste !

[@me-ju3fv]

Wtf

[@Volcano-Man]

Well considering digger, it's about a place 8n Pom land not the convict colony down south, I would expect a pom to talk about something in pomland.