The Ascher Artura Pro is FINALLY here, but I would wait a little bit longer! | Review & Test

[@DanSuzuki]

Litte update to the review: You CAN actually connect the wheel to the Simucube Link System which lets you use the steering wheel with any wheelbase as long as you have a Link Hub - thanks Mika for the clarification! I didn't know this was possible since it's not mentioned on the Ascher website anywhere (random excuse) but I probably should have just tried - sorry about that! Simucube Tuner with the Link Hub also has a way nicer UI for the Bite Point setting: ibb.co/XtMBHZM Only problem: you need to either buy the Simucube Valo GT 23 or Active Pedals to get the Link Hub 😅 It will be available as a seperate purchase soon though - I'll add the link once it's available!

[@liorco300]

Had 2 Asher wireless wheels for 3 years now and never had a single disconnect issue, so I guess it’s not an issue and also enjoy not having cables

[@danielnewmanracing]

I’m currently in the process of programming a button LED profile for the Artura series. I’ve got an ultimate plugged in right now and it’s incredible 👌🏻

[@Kuzoo]

Banger Video, again. Just the minimalistic styling and the good sound quality give me such a good vibe. Love it!

[@tapidlittle13]

Great review Dan. For me wireless is an important feature has I switch often to my rally wheel. Which is also wireless. Not having to unplug the USB port each time is a really nice feature. For people with only one wheel, I understand your point.

[@boijorzee]

You can immediately see the Mclaren heritage in the dedicated "call towing vehicle" button.

[@DanSuzuki]

🤣

[@kridedude]

I fixed couple of sticky buttons (I have 1st batch wheel) by rolling a fine sandpaper and sanded the holes on the plastic shroud just a bit. No visible damage and works good. Another good review Dan!

[@RocceFella187]

finally somebody mentioned that some button caps get stuck like a stepsis in the shroud. i also had a lot of conversations with ascher about it in the beginning of last dezember... but atleast they send me new caps which fit better. for the shifters, yes the release rubber-damper-pad in the shifter is to thin, they prob also will make a thicker or harder one. adjustability is kinda possible with the spacers. ascher also send me shorter screws, so i could use the upper shifters without spacers. so technically u have 3 settings for the shifters, normal (flush) distance, with spacers or mounted on the front side. and for the grip size, i´m wearing size 10/11 gloves and the grips are super comfy for me :)

[@HDRGamingHub]

Is a shame that they will improve the steering wheel and the first buyers are stuck with the bad ones. My only complain is that the shifters are not properly dampened. They are loud and not what i was expected. At this point they should give new ones in exchange for the old batches.

[@RocceFella187]

@@HDRGamingHub i feel u. in the end the only problem is, like i said, the thickness of the damper pads. so the "new batches" will max have better / thicker pads. there is no way that the shifters itself get redesigned. i ended up with adding some cotton tape in the shifter housing on both sides and its way more quiet now ;)

[@racecrasher99]

Cannot wait for the Ultimate version anymore! I’ve been waiting for it since the ADAC Sim Expo in December 2022

[@NesterowiczRacing]

Same here, hope the button caps are fixed by then... but damn time goes slow when waiting for that.

[@racecrasher99]

@@NesterowiczRacing Agree completely. I think it’s partly why the USB versions are still not available. If they do those tweaks and adjustments it will be a perfect product and the final wheel I will ever need haha

[@stryker1992]

​@@racecrasher99 final wheel ? I you're an simracing fan you know its a lie 😂

[@racecrasher99]

@@stryker1992 I mean… yes a sim rig is never finished 😂😂 I'm already thinking about adding a round rim for ovals to my „inventory“ but I don’t like switching wheels for settings reasons on iRacing + wheelbase. I think I’ll be fine with just the Ascher McLaren Ultimate for GT, GTP and formula cars

[@HansOlsen]

I've been waiting for this review

[@fastforward7670]

Beautiful wheel, perfect size and button/encoder distribution. I hope Fanatec will at one point provide a similar replica for half the price as I will never pay over 1k€ for a wheel.

[@Ke7ch]

Excellent video, thanks for diving into the wheel. The bottom rotaries however do work as encoders! Near those LED switches are switches that allow you to swap between 12 position and rotary mode on each bottom rotary. Edit: I did in fact discover I was wrong. This wheel does only have 12 position and shift options, not encoder.

[@DanSuzuki]

not on mine, you can only enable the shift functionality

[@Pucis666]

@@DanSuzuki I have 3 positions too, dont know why yours have only 2

[@Ke7ch]

@@DanSuzuki I misspoke. Mine is the same as yours, it's just how iRacing interpreted the input that misled me. I also only have two positions selectable, shift and 12 position.

[@DanSuzuki]

do you guys have the USB version? I even talked to Ascher if it's possible to switch it to rotary mode and they said it's not possible on the wireless version 😅

[@GraemeGibbs]

But it will be possible on the USB version?

[@hakanuzunoglu]

Your QR is more interesting than the wheel for sure. Ps: maybe a video on it?

[@stryker1992]

he already do that in at the middle end of a previous video recently :)

[@blackter3]

Oh man finally a review of this wheel!

[@amigoz3201]

The only wait is for usb version i could have simhub control on led buttons. The wheel itself is perfect, way better than cube controls AMG rim and miles better than gtx2!

[@Pucis666]

I am a VR guy, who also detaches wheel every time after race. Wireless is perfect for me. I have LEDs turned off. I am one of the first to get the wheel, and I am yet to charge it. Wire would be unnecessary thing, that cout break for me without any benefit at all

[@4FiftyRacing]

I get that the classic look appeals to many, but comparing this side by side with the GSI X-29 or CubeControls F-Core, I don't think I could justify the extra costs. I never needed thumb encoders nor dual clutches, never had any issues with auto clutch for standing starts in top splits, need to lift for T1 anyway

[@saoud_alali]

Hi, wanted to ask if i can buy the wireless version and choose to connect it either via cable or wireless.

[@HDRGamingHub]

I got this wheel to upgrade from ascher racing f28-sc v2 . I don`t care about the led`s as i only race in VR. All i wanted was a 300mm wireless wheel with loads of inputs and clutch pedals on it . I love it but i wished that they could give you the ability to change the magnets from the shifters like on the ascher racing f28-sc v2 .

[@GerhardRoets]

Got a pre order version. Compared to GSI clutch and shifters feel way better. Also 2 year warranty.

[@NesterowiczRacing]

i too like the clutch and shifter a lot better than GSI. guess its a matter of taste!

[@GerhardRoets]

@@NesterowiczRacing also I wear size XL gloves. My hands fit fine. The fact that has a 2 year warranty is a big deal. My GSI PC board failed after 15 months, I was out of warranty and out of luck. Had to spend $$$ to fix it.

[@stryker1992]

@@GerhardRoets didn't know about this short warranty in GSI, thanks to let us know :)

[@manuelti]

I can't decide between this wheel and the GRID MPX

[@stryker1992]

You'r right. One thing you should notice, the grip is not the same, the ascher look more straight, and the mpx more curved. So take care in your choice, ergonomics is very important :)

[@DanSuzuki]

Both are awesome options 😊

[@frederikhellert2726]

Shouldn't the switch on the back of the wheel be a three way switch, to change from 12-pos. to rotary encoder and then to the shift functionality, so there is a possibility for using the 12-position switch as an rotary?

[@DanSuzuki]

Maybe it is on the usb version, this wireless definitely is a 2 way

[@thomasputz539]

Hallo Dan, ist die Custom Firmware von dir noch verfügbar? Und ist diese für die SC Variante ?

[@dinxsy8069]

Makes me feel good about the GT Neo, in comparison to price. It's just now i've found out their customer support is soo bad, even the company i bought it from won't respond.

[@NesterowiczRacing]

ascher?

[@Max__apex]

A wheel is designed to rotate a shaft. GT NEO does that and at £290 the way to go. I would never buy this.

[@jrmyquartararo90]

custom nrg pcb? how does that work? you managed to get usb connection within the nrg qr?

[@MongrelTom]

Why are there no gsi hyper sl reviews???

[@DanSuzuki]

we don't really send out review units.

[@MongrelTom]

@DanSuzuki Sure but there doesn't seem to be any owners posting reviews either & so for the price, it leaves a little piece of anxiety ha ha. I want a mainly VR based wheel ... I'm looking at the gsi x-29, ascher f64 v3 usb, grid mpx v2 (sold out all over) & then the gsi hyper sl. Obviously the hyper sl hits the higher price point & features but does it justify it enough vs the others? I've read that the x29 nails comfort/ergo but lacks some features ... design is nice but not as premium as the ascher or hyper sl. Where would your money go? (I know you're affiliated but trust your honest/unbiased view). Love the content.

[@DanSuzuki]

@@MongrelTom Wouldn't recommend the F64 anymore, it's just a little bit dated and doesn't feel as nice as the other options - if you want Ascher I'd get the new McLaren wheel, even though I personally think Grid and GSI is a little bit above that in terms of quality - still, a very very good wheel. If you like thin grips the MPX2 is a great choice, I personally find the funky switch placement a bit odd, but it might be better with the smaller knobs on the v2 - I haven't tested this one yet. As for GSI the X29 actually is very comparable in quality to all our other options, the only difference it you get an aluminum front and not a carbon fiber front and we all know the more carbon fiber the faster you will be! All elements inside are exactly the same as on the higher end wheels, just less inputs. The SL surely is the top of the line with tons of features - if you really need all those? Well - that's not something I can answer for you - my honest opinion is: I personally do not need all those inputs 😅 If you like the shape/design of the FPE v2 then waiting for the new GXL v2 might also be an option - will come out later this year 😅 And to confuse you even more: check out the offerings from Soelpec and Delta Simtech - they both also have great wheels without displays! Also ... use code DAN5 to get a little discount on GSI gear - both on our website and on Sim Race Shop!

[@MongrelTom]

​@DanSuzuki thanks ever so much. Those other options really opened my eyes & challenged my thought process, particularly the Solepec. Taking all into account, I opted for the hyper sl, it just really looks like the full package (& more so 😅) for my needs. I engaged my brain, checked out the discord where I got more info & views + I watched a ton about the p1 ... I'm very confident that it will meet expectations. Thanks again! (I still find it strange that review units aren't out in the wild ... I guess it's quite a limited market at the higher price points so maybe it's assumed or reality that consumers put the energy into researching before purchase? For me as a new customer entering the GSI ecosystem it's not the greatest experience but hey, I'll get over it 😅).

[@zTEnZo]

Hey Dan, when you had the wheel open did you see if the battery is replaceable? Worried about if 5 years down road and the battery dies what happens.

[@DanSuzuki]

yeah should be replacable

[@ccdog87]

is it possible to buy a pair of GSI grips individually.

[@inebium]

And if you have the first batch, can they send you buttons that work and not be stuck or the problem is the wheel itself and not the buttons?

[@DanSuzuki]

It seems to be the buttons. They offered to send some for replacement - but since this was a loaner unit I obviously didn't really need it.

[@damiengvideos4337]

I can confirm the grips are too small on this wheel and the lack of adjustability of the shifters is a real pain point. Particularly on upshifts when I pull the paddle back it hits the back of my fingers because there is so little space between the wheel and the shifter. A bit disappointing. I also have the Grid MPX and GSI X-29. I'd opt for either of them over the Ascher if you have medium to large hands. The shifters feel great they just need to be spaced better.

[@mack1fd]

Ascher has paddle spacers on their website. You should consider that or buy something similiar from else where for cheaper.

[@garrettobrien936]

@@mack1fd you can also flip the paddle shifters to the other side of the mount for more spacing from the wheel. I didn't feel the need to do for that mine but it's quite simple to do. I have medium to large hands and thought the wheel might be too small at first as well (especially coming from the fanatec mclaren gt3 wheel). Now I find the Ascher to be the perfect size. More of an example of personal preference. I for example keep a very loose grip on the wheel so that may be a factor for that as well.

[@mack1fd]

@garrettobrien936 That is an obvious way but that sounds like it's to little to help they guy with the clearance issue. Thanks for the reply but you should reply to they guy above that has the issue.

[@mattlavallee8880]

Hi Dan, what QR are you using in this video? Thank you!

[@DanSuzuki]

Made my own, check one of my latest videos for some more info 😊

[@NitroGamingAT]

Ist es möglich über die Buttons z.B. das Headset zu muten und dann die LED Farbe anzupassen? Also Grün - Headset an, Rot - Headset aus? Oder funktioniert das dann auch nur in der USB Version?

[@NesterowiczRacing]

Thx for the video, and showcasing how they did LED`s & the small button cap issue. +How cool you made a firmware yourself to gain simhub access! Question, about your "DAN" QR coming up. Would i be able to connect the Artura Ultimate w/USB to my Fanatec DD2 QR2 via fanatec podium hub & your QR - and not use cable? maybe?

[@NesterowiczRacing]

@dansuzuki where can i read about your QR ?

[@Kurissu_]

Thanks you for the video ! After that i prefer the Hyper SL because i have a Simcore STD96 (it’s the simucube version) and every race i make i have some Gear shift error and its very annoying so for my future open wheel/GT steering wheel the GSI Hyper SL inspires me more confidence SRS is a great shop i lives in Switzerland so the shipping costs are more interesting than directly by the brands

[@sincity_steve]

Hi Dan, would you recommend this wheel for a VR user? The layout seems to be simple and easy to access. Thanks

[@DanSuzuki]

Oh absolutely! It's a great option for pretty much anyone I think - unless you have really big hands.

[@sincity_steve]

@@DanSuzuki thanks. The price difference for this and the Hyper SL is $40 which is minimal. Im still debating between these 2 for GT / open wheel driving. The grips definitely look meatier on the Hyper SL, and the open bottom seems interesting too. Also the Hyper SL seems to be VR friendly as well. Hmmm

[@DanSuzuki]

Both are great wheels and you can't really go wrong with either in my opinion @@sincity_steve

[@mack1fd]

@@sincity_steve The Asher Mclaren Pro wheel has 6 paddles. When you select the 6 paddles on the Hyper SL the difference is substantial. I bought the Mclaren Pro wheel from one of their distributors and the cost of the wheel was $462.36 less than the Hyper SL not $40.

[@sincity_steve]

@@mack1fd ahh okay that makes sense. Thanks! How do you like your Mclaren wheel so far?

[@smokinC5]

No carbon fiber? Seems like for 1200 that would be standard no?

[@DanSuzuki]

it's a design choice, carbon fiber is not better or more expensive ... it's just a different material - for simracing its more like a visual design choice

[@smokinC5]

@@DanSuzuki yea, but it is lighter tho than aluminium. Seems like that would allow the wheel to fit more wheelbases of diff power levels at the very least. It just seems very expensive for what it is. Good review tho!!

[@RacingWithChuck27]

Dan, we need to make a nice vinyl sticker… not liking it 😢 lol

[@xlucyV3x]

says price!! me: close video :)

[@stryker1992]

😆

[@Leynad778]

The wireless SC2-connection has one benefit: The wheel is recognised with the SC2-base as one unit. Games like AMS2 require to be launched with all peripherals you want to use. It won't recognise stuff that is activated later and usually I forget to turn on my wheel until I'm on the track, but no problem with my Ascher Wireless because the SC2 Pro is always on. Older games like AMS only supports I think 5 USB-devices in this case, so one less with this method.

[@andreaiachini7517]

Do you have any problems with wireless wheels? Like disconnection, or miss input. I can not understand if wireless on Simucube is reliable or not.

[@Leynad778]

​@@andreaiachini7517 No, it's reliable.

[@neguritabco]

@@andreaiachini7517 I don't have the Ascher wheel, looking forward to the Ultimate for an upgrade, but I have a Simucube Wheel, Tanko GT-21 and I never had problems with the connection. Bought it almost 2 years ago.

[@HDRGamingHub]

Wireless on simucube is very reliable mate.​@@andreaiachini7517

[@nevillerichards9330]

So when are you releasing Your QR for public sale 😅 ?

[@silvio5006]

Waiting for the Ultimate version. Also wireless makes no sense to me....

[@kaizer2k2]

1:00 I agree Dan! call me a hater but Ascher Wheels looks ugly AF!! IDK why they make them so ugly if they price them so high. Sure they make good wheels if you aren't focused on what the wheel looks like. Great for VR players but for any other person, idk how you can look that thing and not get grossed out.

[@elbastron]

I don't know, I'm a sim racing beginner and that price tag is little less than my complete gear that I currently use but I can certainly see the point of many of these expensive items. However, for that price I feel that there are just too many concessions to make with this wheel. Wireless connection that only really appeals to Simucube users, replaceable button caps but oh so fidgety, no customisation besides LED colors, lackluster front rotary functionality ... I mean, why do they even have separate versions for wireless and wired. At that price, you may well include both which makes it more versatile in the long run and will streamline production as well 🤷‍♂

[@stryker1992]

You nailed it ! At this price, this is a shame.

[@JonasWindey]

This wheel is sold as "used in real-world McLaren Artura GT4 race car", but every picture I found shows the real world wheel is carbon fiber. Not that it matters to me but if it's marketed like that it should be correct imo.

[@marcelertle4569]

It is correct :) the carbon one was a prototype never used in the actual race car. You were able to see the GT4 incl. wheel at the SimRacing Expo last year.

[@DanSuzuki]

I think the wheels were also visible on some Bathurst 12h onboards :)

[@jinglesmcgee7256]

I’m never going back to something larger than 285mm. What are they thinking? That is too big for a yoke

[@regibson23]

Buttons sticking. Paint wearing already. Encoders that aren't encoders. No software. Unacceptable on such a "premium" wheel.

[@maqs175]

No software sounds good to me. The only thing I used software for my cube controls wheel was to set encoders pulse width. I could do it with the wheel itself if it was possible and have 1 useless application less on my pc.

[@stryker1992]

@@maqs175 and what about the three other things @regibson23 said ?

[@maqs175]

@@stryker1992 Perfectly valid criticism but unfortunately it doesn't stand out compared to other wheels at that price point which shouldn't happen when you pay premium yet happens for all brands around there. I commented about software because I simply don't get why people want software for everything in simracing and care too much about it. For most stuff you use it once when you do the first setup of your equipment and don't see it ever again or click one button to change profiles once in a while.

[@stryker1992]

@@maqs175 thanks for your reply