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According to her detractors, Ruth Paine is a government agent who helped frame Lee Harvey Oswald as the assassin of the president. But to her defenders, she is simply an innocent bystander caught up in history. 'The Assassination and Mrs. Paine' juxtaposes Ruth’s first-hand account alongside the assassination researchers who suspect her and the defenders of the official story with whom she sides.
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In the age of fake news and post-truth politics, we return to the foundational conspiracy of our time through the lens of this critical but little-known character. This unsettled history, embodied in the story of Ruth Paine, exposes raw fault lines running between divergent visions of America.
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[@journeyman]

Available now on Video on Demand: Amazon: www.amazon.com/Assassination-Mrs-Paine-Ruth/dp/B09Q34Y85W/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1MBRU6LFSRUR7&keywords=The+Assassination+and+Mrs.+Paine&qid=1655195009&sprefix=the+assassination+and+mrs.+paine%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-2 Vimeo: vimeo.com/ondemand/mrspaine Google Play: play.google.com/store/movies/details?id=MrgeEd_oqPg.P&sticky_source_country=US&gl=US&hl=en iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-assassination-and-mrs-paine/id1616178269?ls=1

[@Calmlysmoke420]

The Amazon link sent me to Spanish version of Amazon. Is there not an English version on Amazon

[@brettburney9623]

The Paine's had a role in the assassination.

[@MrGranfield]

What is your evidence for that claim? None I thought so.

[@TheShahofBaltimore]

@@MrGranfield would you move a family into your home after knowing them for 5 WEEKS????

[@MrGranfield]

@@TheShahofBaltimore possibly, depends on the situation.

[@joinjen3854]

@@MrGranfield doubt it. Oswald was a ( fake) defector with his Russian wife and husband works for Bell helicopter. It was the Cold War. Only a c i a handler would do this.

[@MrGranfield]

@@joinjen3854 Oswald admitted he was a Marxist, but was probably a Communist, a million miles from being a CIA agent.

[@dennis6438]

She glows in the dark.

[@MrWALLY-gi6yk]

You have to give her credit for one thing. She has worn the same outdated hair style for over 60 years.

[@missroxanne7123]

🤣🤣🤣 Stop!!!!

[@violinmerchant]

The truth is written on her forehead.

[@Mouse01011]

@@DIRTYdeeds613 🐝

[@agamemnon533]

The filmmaker should know better than to have Posner in this.

[@FOTAP97]

In my opinion, actually Posner’s inclusion here may be as good an effort to steel-man the WC’s case as you could wish for, and yet, the lack of credibility of the story he weaves and his shit-eating-grin facial expressions give it away. He’s a major pillar in the attempt to prop up the losing side.

[@chab1rd155]

Yep. Cant stand him

[@aaronz7056]

@@FOTAP97 What's that got to do with all the credible evidence pointing to Oswald, which it does.

[@FOTAP97]

@@aaronz7056 yeah, pointing to Oswald as the patsy he said he was.

[@aaronz7056]

@@FOTAP97 Leaving aside the minor detail that if you bothered to watch the entire clip you would see Oswald only says he is a patsy in relation to being hassled by cops for having lived in Russia, not because he thinks a coup is setting him up as the President's assassin, we now look forward to you explaining how anybody framing this patsy could have known: - Oswald would show up unexpectedly at the Paine house Nov. 21, otherwise they can't pretend he smuggled the rifle Nov.22 - Oswald would suddenly possess a package Nov. 22 he didn't arrive at the house with Nov. 21 - Oswald wouldn't simply stand out on the sidewalk during the parade - nobody would ever find any bullets or fragments that don't match to his gun - multiple and mathematically precise recreations over the years by various investigators would consistently and clearly demonstrate the trajectories of the victims' wounds would line up and track straight back to the sixth floor window - witnesses directly under the sixth floor window would firmly testify the shots all came from directly overhead - Oswald's latent print would be found on the rifle - Oswald's prints would be found on the exact spots of the sniper nest they would be had he been firing from it - Oswald would immediately flee the plaza - Oswald would definitely go specifically to Oak Cliff - Oswald would take evasive action to get to his rooming house - Oswald owned a revolver at all - where the revolver was - Oswald would obtain the revolver - Oswald would retain the revolver - Oswald would decide at the last minute to put a jacket on - Oswald would discard the jacket in the streets before his arrest - an imposter who looks so much like him he is guaranteed to fool the nearly dozen Oak Cliff witnesses who ID Oswald needs to be hanging around 10th and Patton - a cop will be driving at 10th and Patton at exactly the right moment to plausibly place Oswald at the crime scene during the shooting - the imposter can be certain Oswald is still at liberty - the imposter can be certain Oswald has come to the general area - there is ANY logic in risking attacking a cop on a public street since Oswald is already being sought anyway and if anything goes wrong here they will just end up confirming a conspiracy exists - the cop won't simply outdraw and capture the imposter, blowing the whole plot - no other cop will capture the imposter - nobody will ever see the imposter again - nobody will ever see Oswald elsewhere during the shooting - Oswald will be unable to prove he was elsewhere during the shooting - Oswald will be seen trying to hide from passing police - Oswald will be seen ducking into the theater to dodge more police - Oswald will be caught red-handed trying to shoot a second cop - Oswald will fight so violently 3 officers will be injured just disarming him - Oswald will observe, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking officers about the penalty for cop-killing - Oswald will lie to police, starting with about his whereabouts during the shooting - Oswald will refuse to cooperate with any investigators - Oswald will turn down help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association himself - Oswald will make no attempt to blow any conspiracy to anybody - Oswald will act so smug and placid he'll even convince his own brother he is guilty - Oswald will just shrug an unsurprised, hollow, rambling reply when asked point blank on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?" - the Dallas PD will be on board for the successful escape from justice of the "real killer" of a brother officer with a wife and 3 children - they can safely count on scores and scores of witnesses, police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, staffs at embassies in another country, Oswald family members, ballistics experts, photographers, doctors, x-ray technicians, journalists, whole commissions, lawyers, congressmen, senators, the D.A., the Chief Justice, etc., to all obey illegal orders to commit crimes and bend over backwards making themselves all eternally loyal accessories to murder and treason... Thanks in advance, for clearing all this up.

[@johnfoster535]

Michael Paine was overheard by employees at Bell Helicopter talking on the phone to Ruth Paine just after the assassination on November 22nd 1963. What they heard was so disturbing they reported it to the police and during the Warren Commission, Michael Paine was interrogated about this by Wesley Leibler. Employees heard Michael tell Ruth that " WE know that HE didn't do it !....WE BOTH know who DID do it ! " MIchael denied saying this to Leibler despite the witnesses who heard him say it....prompting them to call the police. Obviously, Michael meant that they both knew Oswald didn't do it...but, that they knew someone else did it. Michael's mother had a best friend who was a lover of fired CIA Chief Allen Dulles, and author David Talbot has proved that Allen Dulles traveled to Dallas in October 1963 from CIA records he obtained. Talbot also proved that Dulles was present in the secret CIA command post known as " The Farm" in Williamsburg, Virginia as the bullets were tearing through JFK's body in Dallas. Dulles remained there that entire weekend, even though he had no business being there, because JFK had FIRED him as CIA Director in 1961 !!!

[@dirtypure2023]

Wow..

[@HeyDuffy459]

I just watched this film, and yep. Apparently that call was intercepted by the FBI, and it’s just like you said. My mind is blown.

[@epkingalwaystcb]

The transcripts of Ruth and Michael’s conversation have been released, and it’s as you describe. What you outlined is second hand hearsay, but the evidence in the film is better. Actual FBI records of the phone call conversation.

[@georgeschaut2178]

I gotta see this documentary. Oliver Stone has stressed that we need to flush out better how LHO acquired job on 6th floor. You'd have to argue that by some bizarre coincidence, the motorcade route was changed just days prior to the assassination to coincidently go right by where your alleged lone nut assassin just happens to already work at, and certainly, Lee himself couldn't have had the motorcade route changed to suit him. Meanwhile, Johnson is meeting with fired/disgraced Dulles just a few days before the assassination, & who does he later put on the Warren Commission, none other than Dulles. Here in Canada, I've never ever met a single Canadian who supports the lone gunman conclusion-nobody...& I'm 60!

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@georgeschaut2178 read Hank Albarelli, Jr. book/tome, "Coup In Dallas"

[@achterlijkeidioten]

"Long term, I'm hoping that real history will prevail." Such an interesting statement from this devious lady. Long term, meaning after she's gone.

[@tomblackburn3742]

Creed of CIA Operatives, " PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY."

[@DialogDontArgue]

​@@tomblackburn3742 maintained long enough for guilty parties to die off. Like slavery, wars, broken treaties, environmental disasters, and financial disasters. 😊

[@aaronz7056]

Ah, no, she means the evidence in this case, which points to Oswald doing this on his own, will prevail and this crackpot conspiracy idiocy will finally end.

[@ralphadamo1857]

"The Paines were absolutely essential to the assassination plan. No Paines, no gains."--Allen Dulles.

[@downtownbrown50]

And Dulles is one of the conspirators.

[@tomblackburn3742]

@@downtownbrown50 Allen Dulles was Fired by JFK for his Ineffective Government Employee and FBI Director. Corrupted by Power, Vengeful and then to be appointed to to JFK Investigative WARREN Commission. This last act should have NOT BEEN allowed. It's like ordering a Pitbull to guard a Broasted Chicken. The only truth is in Abe Zeburder's film.

[@downtownbrown50]

@@tomblackburn3742 Absolutely correct. Allen Dulles was as corrupt as they come. I have a book that describes his life and misdeeds. He was an integral part of the assassination.

[@rawbacon]

Fake quotes that conspiracy clowns spread for a hundred Alex.

[@epkingalwaystcb]

They were involved, as was Dulles, but come on, that made up quote (even though you were joking) will muddy the waters and diminish legit researchers

[@philipskalla4312]

Immediately before I found this video, I was thinking to myself: is it purely a coincidence that the person who helped Oswald get the job at the TSBD was the person who was in possession of Oswald's rifle in the days leading up to the assassination? The motorcade route was not published until five weeks later, so Oswald could hardly have arranged to get a job on the motorcade route deliberately, but anyone who knew of plans to have the motorcade pass the TSBD could have arranged for Oswald to get a job there in order to set him up as the alleged assassin. There is no evidence that Oswald's rifle was ever in the TSBD. The one found there was identified as a Mauser, a different make from Oswald's. Only one person ever saw Oswald taking a package into the building - and he has always insisted that it could not have contained a rifle. If the rifle was not in the TSBD - and the only film taken of it was outside the building - then how did it come into the hands of the Dallas Police. There is only one way - via Ruth Paine, who just happened to find Oswald a job in the TSBD. Marina Oswald testified that she believed that Ruth Paine was connected with the CIA. Ruth Paine's sister, Sylvia Hoke, was an employee of the CIA, and her brother in law, John Hoke, applied to work for the CIA. He worked for USAID, as did Ruth's father. USAID is a cover for CIA personnel. Ruth's mother in law was a friend of Mary Bancroft, who was a lover of CIA director Alan Dulles and also a spy. www.jfkpaine.com/research/paine-family-connections-to-the-cia/ Everywhere one looks, it seems, associates of Ruth Paine have CIA connections and she got Oswald a job which helped set him up as a patsy and only she had the means to make Oswald's rifle disappear from the place where it was being stored.

[@dirtypure2023]

You know your stuff. Very interesting.

[@dirtypure2023]

Any documentaries you can recommend? What do you think was the motive behind the conspiracy, and who actually carried it out? Shot from the grassy knoll or from inside the car?

[@philipskalla4312]

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[@philipskalla4312]

​@@dirtypure2023 I believe two shots were fatal - or rather, would alone have been fatal if the other shot had not hit - one from the grassy knoll and another from behind, constituting the double shot. The shot from inside the car thesis is not credible. Kennedy had so many enemies that there could not be a single motive, but whoever was a party to the conspiracy needed to know that Kennedy's successor would protect them from prosecution. Johnson's actions following the assassination suggest that his public face was pure hypocrisy - including his behaviour when being sworn in as President. His own mistress implied that he had foreknowledge of the assassination. Who stood to gain from the assassination? Certainly not Oswald! Johnson gained the promotion he coveted, and which he could never have achieved by any other means. Hoover was granted an extension of tenure, whereas Kennedy intended to allow it to expire. The mafia gained a new lease of life, with not only JFK gone, but their most dangerous adversary, the attorney-general removed from office. The military and oilers gained - because the new president's first two acts were to revoke Kennedy's directives to start a withdrawal from Vietnam and end tax privileges of oil companies. The CIA could breathe a sigh of relief, because Kennedy's boast that he would smash it into a thousand pieces ended when his brain was smashed into a thousand pieces. Nevertheless, the conspiracy could not have succeeded without the participation of the Secret Service: kzbin.info/www/bejne/joqTY4ShqsiSnJo

[@philipskalla4312]

@@dirtypure2023 I don't know who carried out the assassination and I think it is not very important compared with who was behind the assassination. I think it was carried out by mafia contract killers because they would be the obvious choice and in the unlikely event that something went wrong, no-one could easily connect the assassins to the main conspirators.

[@user-jd9zm4jf3t]

A bi-sexual who wasnt CIA who just coincidently from a family full of CIA . What could possibly go wrong?

[@aaronz7056]

B.S.

[@user-jd9zm4jf3t]

@@aaronz7056 Facts

[@aaronz7056]

@@user-jd9zm4jf3t Fact #1: Ruth Paine took in a young mother fleeing an abusive husband, tried to help them get back on their feet, and for that she has had to spend the last 60 years watching armchair detectives and gullible paranoids happily accuse her without evidence of being a conspirator in murder and treason so long as it suits their crackpot and idiotic "theories."

[@Rickets1911]

The CIA .. is a family

[@philskovby2917]

John ignoring allen dulles handshake. beautiful 1:06

[@davidarbuckle7236]

Listening to Posner describe the Paines as "do-gooders who would have never been known had they not tried to help out the Oswalds", is hysterically tragic. It is amazing how his (Posner's) lies are actually believed by the WR zombies who want to think all these coincidences can be explained. ( of course, unless you dare to dig deeper)

[@InternationalScot]

Notice how every proponent of the official ‘lone nut’ line ascribes motivations, thoughts and feelings to Oswald. That should be a red flag to any honest and rational person interested in the case. Most of them, such as Posner, never met him. On what are the opinions they project onto Oswald based? Not what he said and not on what he wrote. So they simply invent them. Unless they were capable of telepathy whilst he was alive or have contacted Oswald via a medium. That is, by definition, dishonest and such an approach is both cynical and insulting.

[@aaronz7056]

Okay, then, how about we instead ascribe the actual EVIDENCE??? Oswald owned the rifle. Oswald smuggled the rifle. Oswald lied to police about his whereabouts during the assassination. Oswald's latent print was on the rifle. Oswald had every bullet and fragment ever found matched to his rifle. Oswald was a perfectly plausible match to the shooter seen in the window. No unidentified persons were ever found in the building. Witnesses directly under that window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead. Oswald was the only employee inside the building during the shooting to immediately flee the crime scene. Oswald took evasive action to sneak back to his room. Oswald was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses as shooting Officer Tippit and fleeing the crime scene. Shells were matched to the revolver Oswald owned and was in possession of. Oswald was plainly seen trying to hide in the store front from passing police. Oswald was plainly seen ducking into the theater to dodge more passing police. Oswald was caught red-handed trying to shoot a second officer. Oswald fought so violently 3 officers were injured just disarming him. Alternately, proponents of the "Oswald was not a lone nut" line never seem to get around to ascribing motivations, thoughts and feelings to Oswald regarding his following actions: - refusing to cooperate with any investigator - refusing help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association - being interested only in a lawyer he'd never met living in another state who specialized in left wing causes - never attempting to blow any conspiracy to anybody - insisting on acting so smug and placid he even convinced his own brother he was guilty - observing to arresting officers, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop-killing - just shrugging a hollow, rambling reply when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?"

[@danieleyre8913]

What are you guffing about? EVERYONE associated with Lee Oswald tells the same story about him and what he was like. His siblings, his former classmates and teachers at school, his former Marine squads members, all of the people in the USSR, all of the Russian community in Dallas, everyone associated with him in New Orleans, all his work colleagues, the people who travelled with him to Mexico. Literally nobody tells of a different side to him, even the one guy who liked him, George de Mohrenschildt, conceded that he was a fool and unhinged. Oswald was absolutely someone capable of being a lone wolf. Of course you never met Oswald either, so why attack that Posner on that?

[@jacobjones5269]

Oswald is one of the most vetted people in history, what are you talking about?.. You people are perplexing?..

[@angelllacuna8889]

is this documentary available on DVD ?

[@TheShahofBaltimore]

I ALWAYS KNEW SHE WAS A CIA AGENT why would she let them move in after 5 weeks!!!

[@MrGranfield]

No proof or evidence Ruth Paine was a CIA agent.

[@TheShahofBaltimore]

@@MrGranfield you didn’t look up what happened in Nicaragua in the 90s with her??

[@williamballz4462]

90% of the population at that time seems like were FBI or CIA informants. WTF kind of planet was this lol

[@MrGranfield]

I know people who marry having met only 5 weeks earlier.

[@kevinluby4783]

@@williamballz4462 And people think the United States is crazy today, the United States in the 1960s seems totally whacky.

[@romanticandperky]

This women (Ruth Paine) comes across as so sincere as an innocent, and it does not appear that there is conclusive evidence that she was CIA or otherwise. Yet, she undoubtedly knew George Mohrenschildt, who was with intelligence and who did die in a most mysterious way as probably part of a conspiracy. Could she really be that good of an actress to put on being just a do-gooder for the Oswalds, when she was really something else?

[@Houndini]

Anybody has great & wonderful friends such as The Paine's. Who would need any more enemies?

[@TheShahofBaltimore]

That’s the link thank me Later WE ALL DESERVE TO WATCH THIS SHIT FOR FREE!!!

[@DougGrinbergs]

Paine speaking in Irving tonight. With 60th anniversary fever, expecting news coverage.

[@randallanthony1794]

He says stuff about Oswald she didn’t have a clue on and she hated his guts even before that and I know after she talk bad about him to word take the heat off for sale or to cover up what she was doing but she’s not she didn’t tell the truth and it’s obvious she doesn’t tell the truth and her little do-gooder idea and there’s some other things most people don’t know that would lead you to believe that she’s more involved in what she saying

[@aaronz7056]

Open challenge to you: call a press conference TOMORROW, present to the world your ironclad evidence Ruth Paine is a conspirator in murder and treason, and bolster your credibility by openly challenging her not to sue you for libel.

[@danieleyre8913]

Only one person associated with Oswald actually liked him, George de Mohrenschildt (who was a bit of a jerk himself). Even his own wife disliked him! It is hilarious how you conspiracy clowns try and spin some narrative of positivity about Lee Oswald and act as though he is the victim of a smear. Even if you buy into the tall ones about him “not acting alone”, or refuse to believe that he did it (hahahaha): He was objectively a pretty horrible and worthless and unlikeable person. LOL at how you can’t even accept that. Is it because this vile excuse for man reminds you of yourselves?

[@buckchile614]

She even has the same last name as one of the Lincoln conspirators

[@sorenjensen8867]

I live in Europe, where can l order a DVD in region PAL or ‘ALL’?

[@laurasands8322]

I used to think that she was involved in the assassination, but I think that if she was she would have been silenced long ago , by an accident or whatever.

[@kenkaplan3654]

Too close to the action. The real players never were killed

[@naysayer1238]

@@kenkaplan3654 lol

[@kenkaplan3654]

@@naysayer1238 George Sergius de Mohrenschildt who also was CIA affiliated, and dealt first with Oswald in Dallas and knrew the Paines blew his brains out right when he was asked to testify before the HSCA/ "On March 16, 1977, de Mohrenschildt returned to the United States from his trip. His daughter talked with him at length and found him to be deeply disturbed about certain matters, reporting that he had expressed a desire to kill himself. On March 29, de Mohrenschildt gave an interview to author Edward Jay Epstein, during which he claimed that in 1962, Dallas CIA operative J. Walton Moore and one of Moore's associates had handed him the address of Lee Harvey Oswald in nearby Fort Worth and then suggested that de Mohrenschildt might like to meet him. He suggested to Moore that he would appreciate some help from the U.S. Embassy in Haiti. "I would never have contacted Oswald in a million years if Moore had not sanctioned it", de Mohrenschildt said. "Too much was at stake."[52][67] On the same day as the Epstein interview, de Mohrenschildt received a business card from Gaeton Fonzi, an investigator for the House Select Committee on Assassinations, telling him that he would like to see him.[68] The HSCA considered him a "crucial witness".[69] That afternoon, de Mohrenschildt was found dead from a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head in a house at which he was staying in Manalapan, Florida.[70] The coroner's verdict was suicide.[71" Ruth Paine never testified before the HSCA. Why was that? "Lastly, Ruth Paine launched into a tirade when the House Select Committe on Assassinations (HSCA) declined to call her as a witness. A HSCA research staffer told her that her story bordered on perjury but would not elaborate." Her WC testimony and her behavior right afrer the assassination are all over the map.

[@JerseyJersey100]

The dead people got assassinated for *exposing* the conspiracy not pushing the conspiracy. Lee and Ruby were facing prison so they had motivation to talk so they were dealt with, while Ruth has every motivation to tow the line so she is beneficial to the perpetrators. Plus, her being killed only feeds the conspiracy theories.

[@kevinbrennan-ji1so]

@laurasands8322 She had friends in the highest of places.

[@cedarabbey]

Amazon video wouldn't play, and then refused to refund me or cancel the order because it had been "too long" (30 seconds is apparently too long). Too bad, as it looks like an interesting doc.

[@jamesfeldman4234]

Amazon is usually pretty good with refunds. If they won't correct a charge, just contact your credit card company and file a dispute. That has always done the trick for me when all else failed.

[@TheShahofBaltimore]

I found the link for free hit me if you want it

[@TheShahofBaltimore]

That’s the link my boy ENJOY!!!

[@chrisedwards7371]

it may look like she may of had something to do with it. but look at it this way, anyone who helped oswald at that time the same thing would of happened if he had it plan. maybe oswald targetted her knowing her connections with people at tsb .lots of questions not enough answers.

[@claytonbigsby]

any time i see gerald pos ner i think, no credibility here

[@dr.know-it-all5148]

GP is a gov't stooge facilitating the cover up. A lot of writers were hired to do the same. WFB was the ringleader. Watch the old FL episodes of Mark Lane, GG Liddy, and EH Hunt. He ridicules ML and massages the other 2.

[@joemasse4568]

Posner always goes out of his way to prove the government innocence? So called experts like these, are paid disinformation agents, no doubt about it!

[@jamesfranklin8364]

Posner and Bugliosi - - - - puppets for the government narrative.

[@epkingalwaystcb]

Agreed, he’s an absolute clown.

[@epkingalwaystcb]

That said, the filmmaker was right to include both sides in interviews and let the viewer make up their own mind. Don’t discount it for having Posner and some others, the film lets the viewer make up its own mind, and the preponderance of evidence completely discredits Paine and her sycophants

[@ytubeanon]

'We didn't star the fire...

[@timhouston4470]

She's a dodgy one. Apparently Lee didn't trust her.

[@robertweingartner2055]

Really? Lee didn't trust her? She must be dodgy.

[@timhouston4470]

@@robertweingartner2055 If you don't think she's suss, then nothing I say is likely to change your mind.

[@robertweingartner2055]

@@timhouston4470 I’m all ears. Tell me.

[@timhouston4470]

@@robertweingartner2055 with all due respect Robert, I'm not doing your homework for you. It will mean more, and be more convincing, if you find for yourself. Plus I'm at work driving, and driving.

[@timhouston4470]

Whoops see what I mean?

[@od1452]

I don't find her truthful on anything. When you know where her sister and parents worked.....

[@johngalt6838]

father in law....connection to Dulles. on and on

[@aaronz7056]

B.S.

[@sr-ty7gb]

Only narcissistic attention grabbers seek to frame Ruth. Anyone saying she is involved is trying to sound intelligent and seeking attention. They want to be a genius and pretend to have cracked the case. Sick and disgusting to try and frame the lady.

[@InternationalScot]

You have made the classic error of all amateur shills: you insult others and ascribe to them completely baseless motives.

[@sr-ty7gb]

@InternationalScot Did you just insult me by saying I have amateur skills? Framing ruth with zero evidence is worthy of insult. Your comment is full on narcissistic.

[@NotSoGoldenAfterAll]

Who taught Ruth Russian? Who invited her to meet the Oswalds? What happened to that person? How many of her family members were CIA adjacent employees? After so long, one must not doubt their eyes and ears. How many connections does YOUR family have to the CIA? more or less than Ruth's lol

[@williamscott2703]

What,was,mrs,paine,station,wagon,doing,at,the,grassy,knoll Shortly,after,the,shooting,,someone,ran,down,the,knoll,and,drove,off

[@aaronz7056]

Roger Craig's claims: a) He saw Oswald flee the plaza in a Rambler station wagon. Flatly contradicted by other witnesses and evidence demonstrating Oswald's true escape route, by bus (where he was recognized by his ex-landlady) and by cab (whose driver ID'd her). Oswald sill had the bus transfer on him when arrested. b) Oswald told him in Captain Fritz's office the Rambler belonged to Mrs. Paine. Flatly contradicted by every other officer present and by FBI and Dallas PD documents proving Mrs. Paine's car was a Chevrolet.

[@steveweingart9221]

So sad for America is that they got away with it !!!

[@aaronz7056]

Who is "they," exactly?

[@danieleyre8913]

Who is “they”? What is sad for America is how this conspiracy blather surrounding the assassination persists. Why oh why are people, especially in the USA, unable to accept the facts in front of them, but willing to buy into any far fetched nonsense instead?

[@kevinbrennan-ji1so]

Innocent bystander, my butt. What the hell was she doing assisting the Contras in the 1980s? How about the transcript of Michael Paine calling her on a wired line on the day of the assassination, saying "you know who did this. You know Lee has nothing to do with this."

[@aaronz7056]

Quit lying.

[@kevinbrennan-ji1so]

@@aaronz7056 Get a real job.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Let me take a wild guess. Not once does this documentary point out that the Philadelphia Quakers had an axe to grind with the Boston Puritans, does it?

[@aaronz7056]

What the hell does any of that mean or have to do with the assassination?

[@thegreenbird795]

She kinda resembles Shelley Duvall....

[@joinjen3854]

They are both male.

[@TTFMjock]

@@joinjen3854 Ruth is 6ft tall....

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

stanley kubrick abused Shelley Duvall and she never recovered. So yeah Ruth never recovered either - she was a patsy who doesn't want to admit it. Vince Salandria explains this in his long prepared statement on the director's channel.

[@robertadams6184]

Oneoftheoriginalpatronsenvolvedwiththejfkassasination

[@aaronz7056]

Zero evidence.

[@docastrov9013]

Putin should spill the beans on who killed Kennedy...

[@cuppasilverbullets]

Putin was 11 yrs old when JFK was killed, LOL

[@cuppasilverbullets]

Putin was 11 yrs old when JFK was killed, LOL

[@dirtypure2023]

@@cuppasilverbullets The KGB knew what was going on, surely. So the Russian government doubtlessly has their own files on the assassination.

[@cuppasilverbullets]

@@dirtypure2023 wouldn’t it be great if Russia were to release them and it would be a big slap in the face to the government

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Poohtin should spill the contents of his $75,000 gold toilet on his private jet

[@SeR-HaT]

*_What led to the deaths of brothers John and Robert Kennedy was the foreign policies of both brothers. The Kennedys were too European. JFK looked more like someone who would be president of Ireland or Scotland than the United States. As a matter of fact, the end of the attempt to reunite and strengthen the divided Europe after the war was the assassination. Is it you who went to Germany and said Ich Bin Ein Berliner? He visited European countries and was welcomed there like a hero. JFK also wanted to end the cold war. He was killed in a postmodern coup. His brother was also killed when he was running for President._* *_The reason why the Kennedy brothers were assassinated 5 years apart was because they were pro-European. In other words, he wanted to completely change the global balance that occurred between the USA and the USSR after the Second World War._* *_He wanted to reunite Europe, which had been divided and divided between the USA and the USSR, and return it to its pre-war strong state. The result of this desire was death. Because the American Deep State never wanted to see a powerful and rival Europe. He was always afraid of Europe. Because, according to them, Europe was the old devil. It had to be very careful and kept under control._* *_Otherwise, a result like two major world wars and millions of people dying as a result of these wars could have occurred._*

[@drwdzz]

someone put this on pirate bay so I can watch it

[@MetalForLife1970]

Ruth Paine.....pure evil!

[@danieleyre8913]

You are who is evil and she is a genuinely great person.

[@markwatters6875]

Hmmm.

[@TheMrBennito]

Opening: "that this sweet woman"... and the tone had been set.

[@randallanthony1794]

He was put to hard questioning and threat of being arrested or something she would come clean she makes so many mistakes in questioning I mean real hard questioning not this light footed she hated the way they treat her all these years and they never did I mean it’s obvious she should be questioned and interrogated

[@stddisclaimer8020]

Mental case Roger Craig claimed he saw Oswald flee the Plaza in a Rambler station wagon said to belong to Ruth Paine. But Paine did not own a Rambler.. Her 1955 Chevy Bel Air was parked in her driveway on Nov. 22, 1963 at the time of the assassination. The reality is, Oswald made his getaway by bus and then cab. He still had the unique punch-marked bus transfer in his pocket when he was arrested..😉

[@aaronz7056]

I've printed out Roger Craig's insane record of demonstrable lies to people who sit there sternly lecturing me I should pay attention to his words so many times I've lost count.

[@maureenobrien4807]

PLUS THEY WERE BOTH GAY. THE CIA LOVES THAT STUFF.

[@aaronz7056]

You are sick.

[@aaronz7056]

You are sick.

[@tomblackburn3742]

Multiple angle Assassination 3 shots , as signal given by Umbrella Man on sunny day 😎 Sidewalk. Oswald could see that motorcade turn was completed for TSBD #1 Shot. Grassy Knoll #2 Shot wounding Connelly & Kennedy. Overpass highway #3 Fatal Head shot with overhead drive away. Shot # 4 fired by Oswald missed Motorcade and Bullet was louged in Curbside brickstone, since has been replaced by new concrete. In 1963, The FBI was the first agency to label " Conspiracy Theory ". This was done to discourage the Press from pursuing the REAL Story !

[@MrGranfield]

You have a vivid imagination but no evidence.

[@tomblackburn3742]

I wonder why Financial Oligarch David Marcus had warned JFK twice, Not to venture into LBJ's State to fund raise for the Democrat Party. In Dallas, The Kennedy"s were originally booked into the Hilton. Secret Service changed plans at the last minute to another Hotel. They always brought the POTUS custom Bed and Mattress( since his Back injury from the War.) Also Addison's Disease. Oswald could not have chambered & fired 3 rounds in that short time frame. Only One Marksman was able to do that ON A MOUNTED STAND. Why was JFK skull kept at Parkland Hospital so long ? Wasn't altered ? Why did JFK have a closed Casket ? Something the public didn't want to know? ( Follow; Ask A Mortician, on KZbin). " If you Cut off the Head, The Body will Die."

[@aaronz7056]

No bullets or fragments were ever found that did not match to Oswald's rifle. Connally's said the shots all came from behind. Kennedy is very clearly seen to suffer a massive exit wound exploding at the right temple consistent only with a shot from behind. Witnesses under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead. Autopsy shows the shots came from behind. Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos. It is highly implausible anybody would assume they would frame this on Oswald while shooting from multiple directions.

[@haroldbrown5308]

@@MrGranfield who ordered the SS agents off of JFK's car LBJ's head SS agent. Who changed the parade route? Who got Lee Oswald the job at the TSBD building the month before the trip to Dallas? Who got Jack Ruby to kill Lee Oswald? It was a COUP!!!!! And we will remember, too!

[@haroldbrown5308]

@@aaronz7056 Why did Jack Ruby kill Lee Oswald? Your facts are wrong and so are you!

[@ADAMSIXTIES]

This doc on Ruth Paine is worth seeing. Even though the producer leans toward conspiracy it's a good deep dive into all things Paine. And she like we who know Ozzy alone did it can just laugh at the CTers.

[@TTFMjock]

Nobody buys your lone nut nonsense dude. The guy with the soiled pants can laugh all he wants, but he's still the one with the soiled pants.

[@epkingalwaystcb]

You still think Oswald acted alone? 😂

[@weps8983]

FED

[@naysayer1238]

@@epkingalwaystcb Of course, that's where all the evidence leads.

[@aaronz7056]

@@epkingalwaystcb All credible evidence demonstrates Oswald's sole guilt.

[@marcwilburn9315]

Mrs. Paine needs to come clean! We have a right to know the truth!

[@aaronz7056]

"Come clean" about what, exactly...?

[@Jefferyization]

1000% c i a operative. they are good

[@aaronz7056]

Open challenge to you: call a press conference tomorrow, present your ironclad evidence for your words, and fearlessly challenge Mrs. Paine not to sue your ass for libel.

[@aaronz7056]

In that case you will of course be calling a press conference tomorrow and presenting your ironclad evidence, and don't forget to bolster your own credibility by openly challenging here not to sue your ass for libel.

[@sstills951]

Right here

[@sstills951]

I’m not who you are looking for

[@anonymouslyanonymous2219]

First !!

[@perculated7666]

🍪

[@chrisedwards7371]

ruth plaid a roll and she know they cannot prove it

[@aaronz7056]

Open challenge to you: call a press conference TOMORROW and present to the world your ironclad evidence this lady is a murderer and traitor and while you are at it don't forget to openly challenge her not to sue you for libel.

[@naysayer1238]

"plaid", lol

[@aaronz7056]

Well, then we challenge you to call a press conference tomorrow morning and present your ironclad evidence she is a conspirator, traitor and murderer, and don't forget to bolster your credibility by openly challenging her not to sue your ass for libel.

[@ghostdance56]

You end up finding the majority of the so-called evidence against Oswald comes ONLY from her mouth and actions. Thats a little too weird.

[@aaronz7056]

Oswald owned and smuggled the rifle. Nobody ever found any bullets or fragments that didn't match to his rifle. A man was seen in the window who could plausibly have been Oswald. No unidentified persons were ever caught inside the TSBD. Witnesses directly under the window said the shots all came from overhead. Connally's said the shots all came from behind. Autopsy shows the shots came from behind. Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos. Oswald was the only employee inside the building during the shooting to immediately flee the plaza. Oswald took evasive action to get to his other gun. Nearly a dozen witnesses ID'd Oswald as the man they saw shoot Tippit and flee. Bullets from Tippit's body were matched to Oswald's revolver. Oswald was caught red-handed trying to shoot a second cop minutes later. Oswald fought so violently 3 officers were injured just disarming him. Oswald observed, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking police the penalty for cop-killing. Oswald lied to police. Oswald refused to cooperate. Oswald was so smug and placid he even convinced his own brother he was guilty. Oswald refused help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association. Oswald makes no attempt to blurt out anything about any conspiracy and instead just shrugs a hollow, rambling reply when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?" All that only comes from Mrs. Paine?

[@ghostdance56]

@@aaronz7056 - MOST of that alleged 'evidence' is dubious at best, and fits how a person would be framed. I can, and often have, picked off all your dubious and usually fraudulent 'evidence' many times here. Rather than evidence, it's the stuff of how Intel services frame people. For example, no one other than Wesley Frazier said they saw Oswald carrying 'curtain rods'. However, Frazier's mother was in that same kitchen that morning, she provided her sworn statement saying Oswald had NOTHING in his hands that morning. The manager of the loading dock at TSBD building provided his statement saying he SAW OSWALD entering the building that morning, he also states Oswald carried NOTHING in his hands when he entered the door that morning. So this so-called smuggling 'evidence' comes from no one other than Frazier's "mouth" No other human being on the planet saw Oswald carrying a rifle sized packaged, or 'smuggling' anything, inside or outside of the building. Not a single person inside the building corroborates this son? Puhleeeze.... As we know, Wesley Frazier was under a tremendous amount of pressure. A 21 year old kid at the time, he had been arrested earlier as the suspect in JFK's murder. He had been given two lie detector tests, which he failed, and an Enfield rifle had been retrieved from his home by the police. Frazier had also taken a summer job prior to these events. Know what his job was? Selling "curtain rods". It's in the Warren testimony. You can't make this stuff up. LOL And yes, the MOST crucial, albeit circumstantial, 'evidence' in this case came from Ruth Paines' mouth and supposedly 'letters' that days later just 'turn up'. Paine leads police to her garage as they gasp in horror at ........ an empty blanket with no rifle in it. LOL All those so called Oswald 'letters' come via Ruth Paine, magically turning up days later in cook books for example. Some typewritten, NONE of them signed or confirmed as Oswalds. Tells us about the list of items Detective Rose listed as found in the Paine's home. What happened to the file cabinets, camera, and stag films he listed on his police sheet? Then, why was the camera 'removed' from his list, an action Detective Rose NEVER agreed with. Why do both Michael Paine and Oswald both even have 'spy cameras' ? Tell us about the Paines beyond a doubt being CIA agents too son, you're always so silent on that. But the mountain of evidence that points to what they do is incontrovertible. Why is Ruth Paine in Nicaragua in early 80's, and what happens to her there? (Hint, she is exposed as CIA and has to flee). Tell us about Michael Paine taking Oswald to these "right wing" speeches he testified to, a few of which the speaker is none other than General Edwin Walker himself. How do you lone-nutters explain that? Whats Michael Paine doing? Tell us about Michael Paines family 'heritage' while you're at it. You're still stone silent on where the jacket that 'head of personnel' Captain Westbrook planted in the parking lot came from, and why it wasn't 'gray' like Oswalds. Why does this Captain Westbrook find himself in Vietnam three years later working for the CIA in Saigon? You know crap about this case son. .

[@JoshuaRyanErwin]

​@@aaronz7056J Edna, is that you?

[@aaronz7056]

@@JoshuaRyanErwin I have said something inaccurate?

[@davidphillips6803]

These Cia bots always show up on these sites to spread their lies and propaganda. Don't converse with them.

[@sstills951]

Are you guys listening?

[@HugoMaus]

Posner CIA

[@danieleyre8913]

Anyone who says what you don’t like: Must be CIA.

[@TheListOf]

This is a joke, right?!

[@danieleyre8913]

It is utterly disgusting that this nice Quaker family should even be mentioned let alone smeared by those conspiracy cretins.

[@patrickharper9297]

I knew she was shooting from the grassy knoll

[@kevinluby4783]

James Files who had links to the Chicago mob claims it was he, that shot JFK from the Grassy Knoll.

[@haroldbrown5308]

She got him the job and the rifle was in her garage! Her whole fa,mily worked for the military industrial complex---Mrs. LBJ made millions because of the war in Viet Nam and the Pain family made alot of money,too!

[@aaronz7056]

@@haroldbrown5308 Open challenge to you: call a press conference tomorrow morning, present your ironclad evidence Ruth Paine is a traitor, and don't forget to bolster your own credibility by openly challenging her not to sue your crackpot ass for libel.

[@paulg444]

This is actually a very naive view. Whatever role Ruth Paine had in the events leading up to Dallas 1963 , she would have been a completely unwitting participant. Please be careful with accusations. In that world of intel operations, the person on the front lines has no idea of the larger mission . They are simply doing their patriotic duty and have no way of seeing anything more than anyone else. It is quite easy to apply 60 years of hindsight and judge her and it is also a terrible slander to do that.

[@unappreciatedtreehouse821]

Another conspiracy eye roller.

[@tyedubbins2444]

LIES 👎

[@robertweingartner2055]

What's a lie?

[@FOTAP97]

Oh, you’ve convinced me!

[@tyedubbins2444]

@@FOTAP97 No you convinced me.

[@haroldbrown5308]

Your comment is as interesting as your CIA pension!

[@tyedubbins2444]

@@haroldbrown5308 Whatever.

[@annesmith9642]

I wholeheartedly trust Ruth.

[@vernpascal1531]

That's fine I'm not gonna knock that. However you take all the Intelligence connections of The Paine's, their relatives and all the major Intelligence connections of DeMohrenschildt', and you better think twice if you have a conscience.

[@epkingalwaystcb]

Trust Ruth😂😂😂

[@annesmith9642]

@@vernpascal1531 I know Ruth personally and she was a very good friend of my mother's for many years.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Ruth was also a patsy. She doesn't want to accept she was used.

[@bradwallace6222]

Then u are wholeheartedly gullible.

[@johnsimca7093]

A jury in a reconstructed trial featuring Attorneys Bugliosi and Pence came to the same conclusion as the Warren Commission: Oswald acting alone killed JFK. The evidence of Oswald’s guilt is overwhelming

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

"Pence"?? You mean Spence. It was not a reconstructed trial at all. There had never been a trial for a reconstruction to be based on. It was a made for TV mock trial. In this "trial" not a single exhibit was there. There was no live defendant. There was no one to actually put him in the 6th floor window as Howard Brenan was already dead. Marina Oswald wasnt present. Not one of the pathologists was present. Spence was a very poor choice as defence council as he knew nothing about the case...why did they not pick Mark Lane who was asked by Oswalds mother to look after her dead sons interests and had interviewed many witnesses? Further, many of the best witnesses were not even present as they had died or just were not present due to Spence's lack of knowledge about the case. Finally, the defence was withholding millions of pages of information that would not be released for almost another decade and some which continue to be hidden to this day. Thats withholding of evidence and would have resulted in a mistrial. I bet Spence didnt get to Jury select either. For genuine evidence to be classed as evidence it must have a firm and unbroken chain of custody AND be identifiable by everyone within that chain.....In a real court of law, just how much of this "evidence" do you think would even be allowed? Write a few things down and we can look them up.

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

@Ivan Cuevas Bugliosi wrote a good book about the Mansion Trial for sure. He should be able to do that though. Writing about a trial, 30 plus years later, that you do not participate in is very much different.

[@jayvenebeatbox5375]

@Ivan Cuevas read CHAOS by Tom O'Neill. Bugliosi was sus af

[@randallanthony1794]

I’m sorry that you didn’t do your homework on the assassination but that lady in the other ladies down in Nicaragua or I think is where it was she was throw it out for spine they ran her off she got caught then she had the same kind of files at her house in Dallas that the cop scene and it was for a pro or anti-Castro people and stuff so she is like that and she was doing that that coincidence is way too strong and her family history you need to learn more about it

[@randallanthony1794]

@@geoffreyjohnstone5465 Well he lies about a lot of stuff and he lied about some of the mountain stuff too and it becomes truth after a while but it was folklore mainly about that I’m gonna start a racial riot and come down that was all made up that was never his motive and that was put in peoples minds by him and all the rats and then it become part of the story telling it was a lawyer lawyers trick

[@bradwallace6222]

The Paines were and are up to their necks in it .

[@aaronz7056]

In that case you will be calling a press conference tomorrow to present to the world you ironclad evidence they were conspirators in murder and treason and while you are at it openly challenge Mrs. Paine not to sue you for libel, yes?

[@aaronz7056]

Open challenge to you: call a press conference tomorrow morning, present to the world your ironclad evidence the Paine's were murderers and traitors, and don't forget to to bolster your own credibility by openly challenging Mrs. Paine not to sue your ass for libel.

[@danieleyre8913]

Yeah they should not have been so generous and got involved with that waste of space Lee Oswald nor Marina if she would not leave him. They should have been less idealistic and more realistic.