The Atari VCS is Weird

[@giokazephyn354]

One thing I would love to see is Valve or Epic making a console OS that they can license out to developers, that also gives you access to their respective stores. Cause the games library always ends up being the downfall of any attempt at a console from someone besides Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo.

[@Kyle-un3ei]

Valve tried that a while ago with SteamOS, but it failed

[@CommodoreFan64]

@@Kyle-un3ei The main reason it failed was the licensed it out to various OEM PC makers, who then marketed it piss poor, and the hardware was not standardized. it's just a reskinned debian Linux with a custom installer that tells the system too boot straight into big picture mode, but you drop right onto the desktop, and use it like a normal computer. Valve has since made leaps, and bounds when it comes to Linux gaming, and getting stuff working, I use to on Manjaro with MATE DE, and on my main gaming PC with an AMD RX560 4G, 16GB DDR3 2133Mhz RAM, and an AMD A10 5800K OC to 4.1Ghz most games I play fine at 1080p even if they proton, or Linux runtime.

[@tina-po4dx]

Valve already did that with the steambox and we don’t know where it went

[@ShatteringKatana]

@@tina-po4dx The biggest problem with the steam machines was that the concept was so ahead of time it couldn't gain momentum. There are still some oversights Valve should fix to make Big Picture the end all console environment (automatic driver clean install, easier add non-steam games to library options like GoG Galaxy, better curation for their controller support and automatic game settings among many others), but the release window for the Steam Machine was absolutely unfavorable. People were way more suspicious of PC gaming back then, AMD didn't have a strong CPU lineup (so most prebuilt Steam Machines were very high end and somewhat bulkier Intel/Nvidia combos) and mid-high end laptop boards were either AMD/AMD (with an abysmal CPU bottlenecking an acceptably powerful GPU) or Intel/Nvidia combos (good, but more expensive). Alienware released the Alpha Steam Machine for $800 with an Intel/Nvidia combo and it was decent and compact, basically perfect if not for the price point. Controller support on PC games still was in an uncertain place, which is part of why SteamInput was born. These days people are accustomed to PC gaming thanks to streamers, better controller support from developers, SteamInput being one of the most powerful additions to controller gaming and very small form factor cases with high end components (for example the Velka 7 or 5). If Valve could get their hands back on their Big Picture projects full time and make the UX never (and I mean never, not even in edge cases) require KB/M, they really could make a comeback in great effect. What the company should do for starters is to make an OEM mode for big picture (I've seen it partially done with SteamOS) where the user can install their custom Windows image (which is so legal Microsoft has a how to page on it), launch Steam at startup and go through a first time configuration and then install all the required drivers for the hardware, all within Big Picture.

[@arnox4554]

Everyone's talking about SteamOS and etc., but honestly... Just get a damn PC if you want that kind of functionality. PCs are really damn good at some things, and consoles are really damn good at others. The minute you try to make a console into a PC or vice versa is the minute you failed.

[@mahfuzhoque3837]

Performance aside, this thing is beautiful

[@redscorpion9325]

Horrible Performance for PC Games

[@Boswd]

@@redscorpion9325 it's not meant to play PC games nativily, what $400 PC does? heck how does a MacBook air play these types of games, not well. This more designed to as launching pad for streaming games. This is a perfect console for Stadia, Steam and what ever Amazon's new streaming service is .

[@KashKatana]

@@Boswd A $400 pc with an rx 580 or gtx 1060 will be able to play all pc games at 1080p mid to high settings at 60 fps. You may get better performance when for this price point when more rtx 3000 series gpu come out.

[@BILLYSLAPZZZ]

@@Boswd this is a console though, even the last gen consoles blow this thing out of the water...

[@TheJuice70]

@@Boswd I’d still just try and get an Xbox Series S at that point. This thing is just far too expensive to justify a purchase.

[@Themanintheredcoat]

I’m really glad you included the extreme closeup of your eyes while playing. I learned a lot about the console that way

[@daviddavies3637]

And off it goes into a closet, never to be seen again.

[@20windfisch11]

Depends. It surely won't be a device you get out every day, but something in the line of TheC64. I get mine out every now and then when I feel like it, same with my Raspberry Pi400 which is mainly configured as an "Amiga" with Amiberry (but does Atari 8bit too). I might get a VCS once it is available for at most 200 Euros and it's possible to add own ROMs to the system without using PC mode. If it is one day possible to have a menu page to select an emulated system and then select a game from that (with that 3D box art), that'd be a selling point for me. Playing the classics on a "thing" that resembles the old console with controllers which resemble the old ones is a whole different story than playing that stuff on PC or a RPi.

[@Hammersmith4602]

i actually use mine regularly whether it’s for gaming music or even watching a DVD

[@derrickthegatorriverboat6993]

If this survives over a year and gets continued support from more developers, i may actually get one of these.

[@Solairsisdum]

399 dollars tho

[@derrickthegatorriverboat6993]

@@Solairsisdum yeah it is a steep price point, but if this really takes off and developers put out new content and bridge the gap between PC and consoles ,this could be special.

[@SoulforSale]

For 400 you can buy 75% of the library with the original hard ware AND a higher powered tablet

[@jabocdawookie123]

This is nothing more than a cash grab relying on nostalgia. It will never go anywhere.

[@ridhosamudro2199]

@@derrickthegatorriverboat6993 this is definitely a product to buy second hand if you are _that_ interested

[@TDMicrodork]

Be careful when upgrading it the WiFi soder point are extremely fragile.

[@almostliterally593]

Good thing i own a soldering iron

[@alvallac2171]

*solder

[@vfletes1]

Waiting for this to appear at the closeout rack at Target and Wal Mart lol

[@beastlylordhorse3612]

Now all we need is Modern Vintage Gamer to see how emulation runs on it

[@Tamago-xe4eb]

MISTAKES WERE MADE!

[@jengelenm]

I hope ETA Prime could get his hands on it. He knows from the back of his head already what this CPU should be capable of, and he’ll put it to a stress test.

[@Lennyg845]

If they just did a proper retro mini system for $100 they would have sold like crazy.

[@dstinnettmusic]

@@Lennyg845 bruh Atari mini systems have been available since 2001.

[@Lennyg845]

@@dstinnettmusic I know and I have a few 😆 the issue is the RF controls and the paddles have never really been duplicate right. Done with the right controls in the right case they could have cashed in again.

[@StandingUpForBetter]

I am so glad this actually came out. Well done Atari for pushing on and making it happen. There are so many 2600 game compilations out there but I would love to see more games from the 5200 and 7800. One of my all time favorite games that I miss from my old Atari 5200 was Space Dungeon by Taito. That game was fun and had a Robotron 2084 vibe to it but actually hooking up an Atari 5200 to a modern TV and finding 2 working controllers and the adapter needed to play this game is a nightmare. If they offer this game for the VCS, Atari will have my interest.

[@alvallac2171]

*came out. *VCS, Atari

[@McSpitz]

One thing to remember is that this in the beta testing phase, so there’s more to come in the development of the Atari VCS.

[@joeshlong9614]

Another thing to remember is that reliable company’s won’t put out products when they aren’t finish

[@stuffthings9618]

Yea thats not how you sell a product. Especially a 400 dollar one

[@PublicDudeBaby]

Lmaooo Yes once it's out of beta it will be able to run Fortnite on medium, what are you smoking?

[@joeshlong9614]

@@PublicDudeBaby buddy you said it yourself. Only shitty company’s will release products before they’re finished to get quick money. If they really cared they would’ve invested more time into making the system as best as possible at launch. And not leave people with a shitty console and a promise, I don’t like that because who knows if Atari is going to hold up their end. At the end of the day, it past beta the produce a good console, kudos to them. But from what I’ve seen now it’s complete dog ass

[@JaredConnell]

That is not a beta, it's just a shitty product.

[@SuperNicktendo]

Well It was only a matter of time before a larger KZbinr made a VCS video - your production value is what I've been striving for. Not quite there yet. I do enjoy my VCS based on the design alone. I've been messing around with Linux and plan to make it into a stylish retro console.

[@id7505]

Your content is more than OK. Don't worry one bit.

[@relicgamer2137]

But is it really worth the asking price? Will people really line up at the brick and mortar stores to pay that price when a ps5 digital is still next to it?

[@SuperNicktendo]

@@relicgamer2137 honestly I don't really think so especially to a wide group of people. They have until March to really push the selling point of it. I bought specifically as a collectors piece and to do a video on it.

[@puppetstudio4989]

yea thing is still dead...

[@supercat765]

My plan for my VCS is to replace the somewhat crappy laptop that is connected to the tv. even for streaming games from my more powerful computer, the vcs will be better than it

[@ballsnface2416]

I'll get one when it hits the clearance bin.

[@jasonwalsh3903]

This looks really cool. Hope it will grow its online store catalogue down the line 👍😃

[@ComdrStew]

I remember wanting a 2600 when I was little. Came home one day from school and it was hooked up to the TV ready to go. My mom said she saved up for months to get it. It was $199 in 1980, plus she got 4 games for $40 each. Todays prices would be $199 = $665 and $40 = $133. I still remember those joysticks killing your hand after 30 minutes.

[@sammiches6859]

I just found one for $25 a couple months ago. That would be $5.63 back then. Most games I find are $5 or below, which would be $1.13 per game. Your mom loved you more than mine, that's for sure.

[@SuperNitroZ64]

Can you showcase the Sandbox Mode? I want to see it in action.

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Make Atari Great Again.

[@anticip8dthegamer]

Thanks Kevin. Nostalgia feeling has subsided. I appreciate your review. Once the price drops I heavily intend to purchase it.

[@Mellowbaton]

You know, if this had somewhat decent specs by PC standards, it might actually have some long-term niche appeal because of the tiny form factor

[@toot1231]

my dad would love this thing hes an old school atari head and he would be blown away getting one of these

[@shocknawe]

1:50 Yeah, coz 300 USD is pocket change, eh?

[@arrowlogproductions2509]

I'm interested to see the sales numbers

[@Josh-ce9sv]

Higher than many will expect. Remember Atari is known globally. So example- there are a lot of posts on Twitter from people in Japan that bought a backer unit. Europe release is planned for 2021.

[@TheJuice70]

The main question I’ve always had about this product is who exactly is this for ? You get much better value buying an Xbox Series S, a cheap gaming PC or PS5 all digital. I just don’t think it’ll be popular and wouldn’t be surprised if it was gone in 1-2 years.

[@Josh-ce9sv]

@@TheJuice70 Quite simple- this is a small form factor, attractive case, cool joystick, will have a LOT of versatility- remember this is pre-release so a LOT of stuff hasn't been pushed out yet. I am currently watching a movie streaming on my VCS in my living room- which is nice enough that I (nor my wife) would want a big/ugly PC sitting in. This also has more versatility than the xbox or PS. Give it a chance over the next several months before you dismiss it. :)

[@TheJuice70]

@@Josh-ce9sv to me, the price point just is far too much. There’s better alternatives. If this was maybe 200$ I would consider it, but 400$? There are far more proven systems at this point.

[@BCRivers]

@@Josh-ce9sv You seriously bought this just to stream movies in your living room? There are already multiple ways you can do that.

[@mattcrowell5875]

Wow, I remember when this was a big thing that turned out to rumor, but then was yet actually real...? Wth.

[@user-nd7rd8jo6h]

2021 giveth

[@tvirus9369]

Me: mom I want a next gen system Mom: you have a next gen system at home Next gen system at home

[@devnol]

5:45 it has Discord, in my books that makes it instantly better than any other console in the market.

[@sanmarino8605]

Imagine chatting to your friends on discord on a Atari console.

[@SEiMEi_EXiSTS]

4:39 Ah, the classic Pitfall commercial starring Young JB!

[@sci-figuy6668]

It would have been great if his brother Kyle was in the commercial too.

[@davebirch2543]

I'm stunned the thing finally got a release date. I saw this pop up on indiegogo a few years ago and was fascinated by the idea but assumed it would bomb. It'd make a great looking mini PC for a loungeroom media center, but $400 USD is a little above my price range when there are mini PC's out there with more power that you could just emulate the classics on. Give it enough time and someone will create an Atari VCS UI skin for retroarch.

[@liberatorkramit]

Your explanation of why people jumped on board just for the "really? Let's see where this goes" nails it perfectly. I just thought they weren't going to release anything at all. So this video is very surprising. For one of the first times ever, I'm pretty happy that KZbin brought me here.

[@Faze-2]

This whole time this place was an office? I thought I was your living room

[@alvallac2171]

You thought you were a living room? Well, that makes two of us. I thought I was a jellyfish.

[@teddyclement2737]

@@alvallac2171 Make it three. I thought I was a chili pepper

[@TheChallenger1000]

I thought I was dead. Imagine my surprise.

[@iamtheflu]

Last I checked, there is cheaper versions of this available. Without controllers and at the lowest ram option, the VCS 400 is 250. The 2 models are the 400 and 800. The 400 has 4 gigs of RAM and the 800 has 8 gigs of RAM. But apparently uses standard ram cards, not sure if DIMM or SODIMM, and can be upgraded. The VCS 800 is 300 without the controllers. At 250 it's decent for a mini PC with a ryzen APU that has some expandability.

[@justclaws4222]

They dropped the 400, and all consoles are 8GB, and it's long-time pre-order at Walmart for $249 or $279. You're right though. It uses an AMD APU, and it takes standard SODIMMs - max 2x 16GB. You can also add an internal M.2 SATA SSD for storage. The PC-Mode just boots you into another disk installation of your choice. I installed Windows 10 on one SSD, and Ubuntu 20.04 on another SSD. AtariOS is Linux based. Having an eco-friendly tiny PC next to the TV, is a nice thing. If Atari folded next month, you'd still have a tiny x86_64 eco-PC.

[@Metroidam11]

I noticed video streaming apps on the console like Netflix. At least you can have it as a streaming service that looks neat.

[@FastTquick]

I’m a bit curious as to how this thing goes, but as of right now, when it’s in competition with the PS5/Xbox Series X, it’s a very hard sell. Why spend $400 for a glorified budget PC when you can buy a PS5 all-digital and play all the latest games with the benefit of having a more powerful system?

[@Lattrodon]

Even the Xbox series S is more powerful than the VCS

[@district5198]

Other than they priced it way to high. I LOVE my Atari VCS. And I would definitely recommend it! PC mode running KODI very cool!

[@Aries73]

This makes me curious about Intellivision Amico. It's like we've traveled back to the late 70's.

[@alvallac2171]

*'70s The apostrophe takes the place of the omitted "19." Apostrophes are not used for pluralizing.

[@utubepunk]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 April? More like Delay-pril, amirite? 😏

[@suwooshi]

planning on buying one just for the looks as an emulation system

[@ridiculous_gaming]

Not trying to defend them too much, but the Atari of today is only a tiny company with little capital. Unlike both Sony and MS who spent a huge amount of capital via RND and who are making no money on their new consoles, Atari is trying to make a small profit per box. Still, it is a nice looking memory of Atari's past and a nice compact form factor PC that will take extra ram and a m.2 drive. I really want to buy one, but have so many PCs at home and retro consoles that I do not know if it will be used at all. Also, this console cannot host games legally like Pitfall, for that is owned by Activision.

[@fabulousasia9848]

Thanks for the review! I love the design of the classic controller!

[@Josh-ce9sv]

It is available separately- shop.atarivcs.com/

[@fabulousasia9848]

@@Josh-ce9sv I saw it was available for preorder but they aren’t shipping internationally yet 😭

[@shannon_jameswilliams3975]

Nothing Atari does ever again will matter until the re-release FOOD FIGHT.

[@joeschmoe5009]

In regards to your fantastic shirt, we still have a prestine blockbuster sign up in town that i found a couple weeks ago. I couldnt believe my eyes when i found it.

[@Hammersmith4602]

i’ve had my VCS for a little over two months now and i actually really like it i’ve put $156 in upgrades in it installed windows on the 2TB SSD installed and even hooked up a Xbox 360 HD DVD player so i can watch DVDs on it using windows

[@ghostofpambo6266]

I'm glad this is finally being shipped out to people. I'm rooting for this. I hope it turns out to the real deal. It looks promising. I want to know if it will play 5200, 7800 and Jaguar games at some point.

[@fedepede04]

there is Atari 5200 games in the Atari vault and Atari vault 2

[@ghostofpambo6266]

@@fedepede04 Thanks. Is there a complete listing of the available games? There doesn't seem to be one on the official VCS site.

[@fedepede04]

@@ghostofpambo6266 sorry i don't know, i just hear in some review of the system that it had Atari 5200 games in the vault 1 and 2

[@fedepede04]

been looking for a game list and it look like its only in the game vault 2 you find 5200 games i found this list :D shop.atarivcs.com/atari-vault

[@ghostofpambo6266]

@@fedepede04 Thanks! That helps.

[@joeyb7867]

What a time to live in, we have next gen consoles out now, we have a new Atari system following that, and we have the all holy KFConsole

[@freddy2072]

Were can i order the Atari VCS...

[@X862go]

The VCS can run Cyberpunk 2077 😎

[@marinalisgara]

''run'' is a bold word for how it plays.

[@X862go]

@@marinalisgara that would imply that you could even run Cyberpunk 2077 🤣🤣

[@theunenlightenedsaint]

I have a flashback atari 2600 that I have sitting under my tv mostly for aesthetics, buy every so often I fire it up for some asteroids or centipede, and it's pretty fun. Worth the 40$.

[@dickdale2839]

Me too. And a few others gamesnot bad. 🎮

[@lankyGigantic]

This looks like it could be a great emulation machine

[@CommodoreFan64]

Yeah, but you can to the same thing with a Raspberry PI 4 with premade ISO's ready to go if that's all you are looking to do, hell a Homebrewed Wii can do emulation upto PS1, and N64 without too many issues, and it's much cheaper.

[@KennyCutout]

Holy crap this thing actually released? Props to them, I guess. Also kinda related, are you guys getting an Amico? I'm actually pretty hyped for that thing, mostly for the control scheme.

[@utubepunk]

Amico? 😬😬

[@Just_a_turtle_chad]

A Turtle approved the ATARIVCS

[@pog6391]

yes

[@Fur5658]

Good turtle good

[@tongoso]

what's the name of the song that starts at 6:40? love it!

[@TheNightRichard]

Yay! An underpowered PC that's only around to capitalize on people's nostalgia!

[@SoulforSale]

That Jack Black commercial was neat

[@ethanwalters4420]

I wish they had their system to take cartridges. Imagine popping in your game cartridge and playing your friends, that to me would be amazing.

[@LIVEFRMNYC]

Is Food Fight included? I used to love that game.

[@noephinway]

Hang on, did you say $400?

[@michaelfitzgerald5207]

It's a 2 core 4 thread ryzen mini pc. It's an awesome emulation machine!

[@obamascock2169]

Yeah maybe anything before ps2 era

[@TheRetroMess]

I bought a Chuwi Larkbox Pro Mini. It plays games on my main TV. When combined with external drives and the right controllers it can be a very competent low-to-upper-medium settings gaming machine. It's keen.

[@Savitor]

So, what exactly is the selling point???

[@kwc0435]

Weird streaming, classic games, underpowered pc system=Visible confusion

[@samalton5837]

$199 and this would actually be a great get. But's it's Atari, we know they won't make smart decisions.

[@btarg1]

That's one expensive raspberry pi!

[@tongoso]

Does anyone know the name of the song or the name of the band in the background starting at 6:40? I love the retro sounds

[@TE5LA-GAMING]

Actually, this is about half the price of the original Atari 2600 when it launched in 1977 if you factor in inflation. The unit sold then for $199 which today would be like $842.

[@vtwinbreed]

This thing is literally a desktop computer with an APU, you can install any flavor of linux or Windows 10 on it and run it like any 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen Apu desktop system. The price isn't TOO horrible, but having all of that into an aesthetic nostalgia bomb of a case for the price, is somewhat decent.

[@diegocapalbo4332]

is it so cold in your house? I mean for the jacket and the hat

[@Sinn0100]

I can't believe the damn thing came out. I honestly didn't think it was going to happen. What I'm most interested in is...what's under the hood? Does it come close to the 400 dollar asking price? I am very pleasantly surprised that it runs in 4K and hopefully they can get running smoother through updates. I might pick one up, I might not.... Addendum- The price point at $400 is a bit much. When Microsoft and Sony decided to start the 9th generation, that's when I knew where are money was going this Christmas. We picked up both the Xbox Series X and PS5 *physical forgoing anymore mini consoles for the time being. We also picked up a slew of new games for both machines and are loving them. Speaking of retro gaming, I'm still very happy with my Core Grafx Mini and at this point it is my favorite of the retro consoles so far and we have most of them.

[@sentino68]

Love this. There should a $150 model option with only Vault, Arcade games and 2 classic controllers. I’d be all over that.

[@kennynunez6792]

Having had an original 2600 and seeing this unit, it looks awesome! Sadly, the price point and software is not there. I’d buy one for $200.00, to $250.00, if it ever comes down in price.

[@baixinholacerda]

I agree with u.

[@joemck85]

Isn't Atari Classics Vault available on PC too? And pretty much everything available for its internal OS will be available on PC as well. At that point you're just getting a PC and paying for a (honestly pretty neat) VCS shaped case.

[@Josh-ce9sv]

This has the 'VCS vault' as they have optimized it for the system and the new old controller.

[@iisquareii4562]

Love the editing

[@bittersweetjesus]

I like to talk and move my arms wildly about also.... anyway, this is cheaper than a Polymega if you don't get the controllers (299.99 vs 399.99) and it has a better processor too. You could just slap emulators on it and it could be an emubox but if you know how to do that, you probably could just do this on a regular pc anyway.

[@ghettoandroid]

Doesn't the Polymega use an FPGA board? If so, then comparing the Polymega to an Atari VCS is like comparing apples to oranges.

[@marcelosoares7148]

@@ghettoandroid Nope, it's emulation too

[@crowmigration8245]

What this finally released?

[@KeyAndrew]

I bought atari "vault" for my pc over a year ago on steam

[@prabeshgurung1067]

What they possibly could have done is only do the classic games, but still have the pc but a bit weaker. Something that can run most emulations well, so the price can drop down but there's still a reason for the pc mode.

[@Bikeguychicago1]

Props for the Ahsoka hat :)

[@andrewwatson4607]

Please revisit the VCS their is so much that they have updated and changed.

[@registradus]

the camera person really likes this guy's face

[@JazmanGames]

really likes zooming in and out as well

[@korywesterhold]

Man, why not make the Atari logo on the front panel double as the power button? 😭

[@kutaykaplan7025]

this thing got a discord support but the ps5 and xbox still dont have it

[@w4nderers460]

Kevin do you know how many of these Atari vcs console were made because I tried to get one and it sold out..

[@austins.2495]

I hope Spawn Wave got his VCS

[@pazzoeo]

He did bro

[@nctrnlmjsty798]

Every pc is a classic console. Emulators have been around for years.

[@asmc1492]

Tell me what i can emulate on an Organal IBM pc

[@animangaamvs2035]

@@asmc1492 Pong

[@asmc1492]

Talha Khan does it actually emulate a pong machine or run it native.

[@cressothegrey4354]

Upgradable RAM and storage is pretty cool too. You can put in a top of the line SSD and 32 gigs of RAM and it could probably handle games like Fortnite much better. One thing to keep in mind is that although they advertise it as 4k compatible, it really isn't. Don't bother 4k because the GPU isn't good enough. Also, this is currently early access, which is why it doesn't habe much games and has so many problems. And keep in mind other companies sell their consoles at a huge loss and profit off of the software. Atari can't do that because there's no current guarantee it will sell well enough for that. If this console is a success, I can easily see their next one begin to transition into that idea.

[@Josh-ce9sv]

They advertise 4k streaming- not 4k local gaming. There is a distinct difference.

[@cressothegrey4354]

@@Josh-ce9sv What I saw a while back just said 4k. Never specified streaming or gaming. Although I did lately see things that did specify it, so I admit I was wrong.

[@haloschafer]

If this system gets more exclusive games and if the dolphin emulator works well on it, it might be worth getting

[@Wubsy96]

0:35 - Don't you mean 'Twouya'?

[@billford171]

Have that Atari Vault on my PC, PS4 and Switch (except switch version came with all 3 volumes). Wonder if that Atari inspired joystick would work with a PS4 or Switch, if so, THAT would be worth picking.

[@FireSloth1134]

Pay extra for a limited run Collector's Edition with real wood front and then tell people that's the price... don't mention it's available for pre-order for as little as $249 or $279 at Walmart's website. Also no mention of this stage being early and for testing/tuning/polishing (backers only).

[@BruhHowDidIGetHere]

Definitely misleading on his part but still expensive. I might wait if it drops in price

[@nu52927]

You can make it a server!

[@peterdwyer6118]

Were did you learn to fly

[@felynx5428]

@kevinkenson what music is playing in background throughout this vid?!?!

[@TheRetroWorld]

It looks nice though! 🔥

[@Benny_Shill]

Atari needs to install an Ethereum/0xMR crypto wallet on it

[@_kingmufasa]

THIS!

[@PieStudios]

Is there no headphone Jack?

[@nervigeskind3131]

didnt they say they were remastering all of the games?

[@techromancer1]

It would be cool if it include all the 2600,5200,7800 ,xe,st lynx and jaguar .. that would be worth the 400 pricetag

[@IdentityCrisis1581]

I'm kind of surprised that the VCS is finally out. But I'm not sure how well it will sell for the general public. As consoles go people kind of want the console dedicated to playing games and doing it well. The VCS is sort of trying to be too many things. So people who actually want to do that could easily go buy a laptop and do the same thing for 100-150 dollars less. My laptop only cost me 300 bucks and it will do anything the VCS can do and it came with a 1TB hard drive. So why would anyone pay 100 dollars more for something that does the same thing a cheap laptop can do? Also I had a 2600 growing up and i hated the joystick. As soon as i figured out a sega genesis controller would work i threw away that joystick. Yes i was still playing atari 2600 games along side snes and genesis. But i just gotta say PC-Engine/Turbografx16 is still my favorite classic system and yes i did own a Turbo-Duo. And i had most of the US release scd games. Turbo zone direct were my best friends in the late 90s to early 2000s.

[@stevefitz2522]

The tg16 is a severely underrated console, I'd love to see a revival of the brand doing more than just a mini console.

[@IdentityCrisis1581]

@@stevefitz2522 yes it was a shame that it was so underraited even when it was new. The mini didnt impress me that much because it only had a few games that made it worth getting and all of those i owned back in the day. What i would like to see is a complete rerelease of the system and games. Pc engine is just too expensive for most people to try and collect. And nec isnt benefitting from the used market so they may be surprised how well a full rerelease would sell.

[@Mr-Sleet]

What this console is best at is playing old games a new way. The vault would look better in 4k and scan lines, it would feel like your playing on a old tv and new controller.

[@MarginalSC]

Could just buy the Atari collection on Steam and get the same effect with any NUC.

[@arielsicx]

You could use stadia via pc mode

[@patryk8619]

I bought this Atari Collection on steam for 1$.

[@AngryCalvin]

mdwill76 I might just get one of these things when it has been out for a while and goes down price. My biggest issue is how much can you upgrade on the ram? Also is a monthly paid subscription required to use disk space or can I use an external disk drive? I mostly do retro gaming so this might be ideal. But if I have to pay a monthly subscription to make it as workable for what I need to use it for forget it.

[@lclark2132]

They should've marketed it as a budget system and buy the rights to semi-popular games to make ports. Then they could get ambitious with their next machine.