The Atheist Experience 757 with Russell Glasser and Jeff Dee

[@cannibalgourmet]

Caller: "I believe time doesn't exist" Host: "Ok, we're out of time. Bye."

[@duffman3]

I really like how you're putting the start times for each caller in the description. Thanks for doing that!

[@Ferdinand208]

I love how clear Jeff Dee is. He is a quote factory :)

[@Skriak]

I don't understand how anybody can say the phrase "creationism theory" without bursting into painful laughter.

[@ItsMissRini]

"I'm sorry what we're saying is making you sad Bobby"....BEST Jeff comment in this vid!!! LOL

[@malignor9035]

I'd like to also remark on the irony that he was talking to Jeff Dee, the RPG artist/designer (BTW, Jeff doesn't look old enough to have drawn the illustrations in AD&D modules I grew up with).

[@WolfgangBrozart]

"What has that got to do with Vikings?" lol'd

[@Seymour13]

JEFF DEE, JEFF DEE, JEFF DEE, JEFF DEE! Finally I get to see my favorite host again, it's been too friggin' long ^^.

[@michaelmathena6604]

I'm enjoying my personal relationship with reality. I believe in life before death. I'm an atheist. I'm happy.

[@ParagonRenegade]

michael mathena Why though?

[@larjkok1184]

ParagonRenegade Why not though?

[@nosuchthing8]

Awesome post, I'm sure it went right over the heads of those that need to comprehend it.

[@richardgrayson3241]

31:26 Bobby: "The most Incomprehensible thing about the Universe is that it's Comprehensible..." Jeff: ".. Says Who?????..." Perfect.

[@LogicAndReason2025]

Damn statisticians told me my odds of gambling are really bad. They took away my fun and happiness to waste all my money and end up homeless.

[@mdt2189]

Jeff designs role-playing games? He's kinda awesome now.

[@MentholSnuff]

This is, quite possibly, the best comment I've read in a long time... If you don't mind, I'd like to save it.

[@ravenouscolonelhart]

lol, the Vikings discovered life on mars - they did have an adventurous spirit!

[@TheGrimReapress]

totally, I loved it how Bobby said at the beginning that we wouldn't be able to talk about something that doesn't exist since it should exist because we talk about or something like that. Ok, let's talk about Santa Claus. Oooops, just talked about him, so he must exist! Logic rules bhahhhahhahahahahahaha

[@whiteowl1415]

"To do so is to harbor doubts about the efficacy of reason itself," And it is by being willing to question the reliability of our reason taht we are able to reevaluate it and be open to new discoveries that may alter our veiws.

[@braindeadjoe]

Thank you and the same to you, we cannot approve or disapprove so we should get along with open minds then when we find the answer we can thoroughly dispute the matter.

[@whiteowl1415]

Agreed, merely commenting that while there is no way to ever be 100% sure of anything, aproaching things with a critical mind usualy seems to yeild the best results.

[@MrEtown87]

First time i have seen the show, laughed so hard. The absolutely delusional minds you have to attempt to have a coherent discussion with, is what makes this so funny. I really have to give you credit, I myself in your position undoubtedly would frequently either become quite impatient and angry or outright hysterically cry when attempting to reason whit these people. If I correctly grasp the underlying motives of the show, we all appreciate what you trying to do here. Btw, try to keep sane.

[@Screencappedhats]

It's difficult for me to believe that Jeff was over 50 by this point.

[@cannibalgourmet]

I was half listening to this while doing something else, then I heard "The only way I can prove that to you is to take all the human beings out of this planet and replace them with new intelligent beings..." lmao I love this show!

[@holio84]

Jeff is Amazing. Thanks Jeff for your efforts.

[@Annu1tco3pt1s]

He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic, so that no one had a chance to intrepid, it was really quite hypnotic!

[@tkenglander6226]

Bobby: "The problem with atheism is that it's taking away a lot of dreams and hopes of people. For a lot of people, that's all that's left." So I guess we should just believe any lies we want to to make us feel better. Uh, no thanks.

[@LJofSpadesTV]

Good to see Jeff back!

[@Crutch456]

Jeff's looking a bit down on this episode...lol. I imagine his patience has been quite worn after yrs of this. Come on Jeff....put a smile on that face!

[@antybrand]

i love your intro guys :D!!

[@JRent506]

Jeff Dee looks like Charlie Sheen if he were a Vulcan. Check his eyebrows.

[@CapQuacer]

I liked the 10 concepts of reason for what to believe, except 8 and 10

[@CapQuacer]

Reason to believe 1. do not believe in oral history 2. do not believe in tradition 3. do not believe in new sources 4. do not believe in scriptures 5. do not believe in suppositional reasoning 6. do not believe in philosophical dogma 7. do not believe in common sense 8. do not believe in ones own opinion 9. do not believe in experts 10 do not believe in one's own self 7 and 9 appear bad but is it? I present these rules for debate

[@VeritasLuxMea100]

But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” - The Buddha (563-483 B.C.E)

[@inferosapientia9123]

The biggest issue I notice with callers over and over again in this show is that they frequently don't understand what a claim is, burden of proof, and what evidence is. I wonder if schools are no longer putting emphasis on these points leaving children unequipped to challenge information.

[@GregJPreece]

21:40 - Watch Jeff.

[@Flayed221]

40:08 russel: "they got to him" lmfao!

[@richardgrayson3241]

40:15 "They got to him..." Now i get it. The callers on this episode are so funny. They would KILL in Dante's Ninth Circle.

[@farthersaidin]

As the the buddhist caller, I would say trying to attain a state where you have unthinking bliss is not really conductive to enlightenment. I think attaining enlightenment is getting a science degree and using it to better mankind.

[@LogicAndReason2025]

Bobby: Which of the virtual infinity of un-seeable, un-testable, etc., non-"material things", do you think really "exist" and how do you distinguish yours from fantasy/ imaginary "things"?

[@Omni315]

Oh wow they beat down bobby for so long he just started spewing "your taking away my dreams!"

[@ptsocr]

Oh wow, I think that guy at the end helped me fix my computer over the phone once.

[@tigerwa]

They talked about a rapid accumulation of scientific knowledge leading to people beginning to doubt their religious inclinations happening sometime in the future, it happened 150 years ago throughout Northern Europe.

[@Blackspidy619]

good point... I did not see that flaw, thanks :D

[@cdickenson64]

Yes I stand corrected. I looked up some of his work on Google. Phenomenal artist.

[@Crazyrat84]

"What does that have to do with vikings?" -No, the viking lander on mars... "OH" Funny ^^

[@MrHollywood1717]

" What does that have to do with Vikings?" "The Viking lander, on Mars." "Oh!" *facepalm*

[@TheZooCrew]

Hey Bobby: You can actually perform the experiment you suggested. Just go to an area where missionaries haven't visited and talk to the people there about their religious beliefs. I can GUARANTEE that their concept of God is not the same as yours. Take Christianity for example. Notice how NO ONE that hasn't already been exposed to it has ever reached those same conclusions. Why is that?

[@TheDimanic]

I asked the priest once why our church, which was shaped like a cross, had the long arm pointed dead South. He had no answer.

[@Kailoa36]

Shmir of Orlando, I am an atheist. I meditate. The problem with Buddhism is that it has an ideology. Its ideology may be less problematic than other ideologies but it still ideological. That is, and should be, a problem for skeptics.

[@peterjs007]

If one video is all it takes for you to flip that doesn't say much for yourself. "A truly profound atheist is someone who has taken the trouble to understand, in its most sophisticated forms, the belief he or she rejects, and to understand the consequences of that rejection."

[@ehill1390]

I have prime examples, I was stopped by the cops because a man said I vandalized his car. They took me to jail and I was out on bail in six hours. A month later when the case went to trail, it was thrown out in under twenty minutes for lack of evidence. Also, after an argument/break up with my ex she called the cops saying I hit her. The cops stopped me, but since there was no evidence of a physical altercation, no bruises on her or me, the let me go and cited her for false accusations.

[@JuanchoMan]

lol thats the first time ive seen russell rudely hang up on anyone xD

[@GuillermoSTD]

Not at all surprising to be honest. When I was sent to TN as an exchange student in '89 at age 15, the math curriculum was several years behind what I had just studied back home, not just two. And believe me, the Spanish education system is not exactly in the leading edge.

[@Harperlarp]

At first I thought tha twas just a random statement, then it dawned on me. Well played sir.

[@pawelgatorade]

i ve just subscribed .It took me just one Hitchens video to become an atheist and im more proud of myself being atheist than catholic

[@PirateOfTheInternet]

Laughed my ass off at 36:01

[@nosuchthing8]

Love Robert - "Why do you care about facts and evidence" (Tongue in Cheek)

[@trojan73bcn]

Bobby sounded like he was going to cry while he was talking

[@ghollisjr]

And this is why I think it is important to distinguish between the various types of skepticism. Skepticism about truth claims is an ethical/should or shouldn't type of position, not a truth claim itself, therefore being skeptical of skepticism is not mandated by this type of skepticism. If, however, you are advising to be skeptical of all truth claims _and_ ethical positions, then you have your self-defeating position. Thus, I break off from complete skepticism and have ethical axioms.

[@squizill]

you just made me spit my drink out ;)

[@ehill1390]

I had absolutely no evidence to show that I didn't vandalize the mans car. The man also had no evidence beyond eyewitness testimony that I had vandalized his car. With no evidence that I had vandalized his car, such as, possession of property, a can of spray paint, or any other item to commit vandalism with, the case had absolutely no chance of standing. Prime examples of presenting without evidence you will be dismissed without evidence.

[@RaptorJesus.]

it'd be a full out disgrace if creationism wormed its way into any factual based class room. also loved the word "orderness" thanks Bobby!

[@Walabinx]

Anyone know if the video or audio of debate that Russel was talking about at the begining of this episode, is up anywhere?

[@QuantumDice]

Interviewer: "How do you account for your discoveries? Through intuition or inspiration?" Albert Einstein replies: "Both. ... I'm enough of an artist to draw freely on my imagination, which I think is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world."

[@Zeturic]

I really liked Shmir - it's not often that a call ends and I think "Hey, I really think he should call back again.".

[@Jaybird196]

Exactly. "Four" is just word English-speaking people use to convey a number to another presumably English-speaker with a consciousness capable of understanding what the former speaker is referring to in terms of quantity.

[@ZZzzzzzWhat]

Bobby-"this is the problem with atheism, its taking dreams away" lol, i almost heard the small violins playing

[@aarrgghh]

short bobby: "i make claims. i'm not gonna defend them so don't ask."

[@Kailoa36]

If we're talking absolute certainty, I've never been certain of anything in my life. That may be a problem for you. It is no problem at all for me. I cherish my doubts. My doubts keep me humble and tell me I'll always have something new to learn.

[@giantspoon]

Yes, however most phenomena can be explained. However, we don't write it off as divine intervention if no explanation can be found.

[@LundinE]

"No, no... the Viking LANDER." "Oh!" Hilarious.

[@askformyname.4599]

LundinE 😂

[@StevenHim318]

the conversation with Nishan was rude. the first question he asked you was if you heard of the Kalama Sutta. which is a good guide for skepticism. when he went to his second question you cut him off and said he didnt ask a first question (which was if you knew the Kalama Sutta) and then you hung up. that was just messed up.

[@kingganondorf5024]

Nishan never clarified his first question, he kept rambling with Kalama Sutta. Many people tries to give you info of where it will be aiming at, and he did that, but he never asked the question. First real reason was, "how to accept info from buddism." this is not a question. :I and this guy never posted any answers or protest to any points. not rude, but being very skeptical.

[@MundaneMuser]

I don't think having faith in the goodness of humanity is unfounded.

[@bryantsmb]

I am from Tennessee and this is a tragedy. We are not a radical state but alternate Dem & GOP governors. Our senators - Howard Baker, Sen Alexander, Corker - are moderates. The dumb thing about this "law" is that there was zero public outcry for such a movement and most likely will be touched on and then passed on.

[@achiever496]

"Believing in faith is wrong" Faith is what religion is all about

[@phantomofkrankor3665]

It think that the interesting thing about Hinduism is that it has a concept of deep time. It’s a lot closer than 6000 years old universe!

[@Kailoa36]

Well said!

[@k.s.k.7721]

Re: Shmir from Orlando - in the writings of the words of the Buddha, he clearly states that discussions of God or no-God, as well as discussions of Soul or no-Soul are useless and a waste of time - because they are only distractions, and keep you from achieving the goal of Nirvana. The Buddha would generally shut down any questions of this type. And yes, you can most certainly practice meditation strictly for the medical benefits - it helps with sleep/insomnia issues, high blood pressure and relief from anxiety.

[@VeritasLuxMea100]

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. (Cont.)

[@giantspoon]

"No archaeological evidence has ever been found for Iraelites ever having been enslaved in Egypt, for an "exodus", for a migration of same into Canaan or for a conquest of same. The archeological evidence shows that the Israelites were an indigenous Canaanite people who never left Canaan, nor ever returned and conquered it. This is the prevailing view of current ANE archaeology. "

[@ehill1390]

I don't think I could possibly give this enough negative votes. Praise ZEUS!

[@phantomofkrankor3665]

Actually the caller from Thailand just didn’t quite make his last point well. What I understand the Buddha said was try the principles of his teachings in your life and accept or reject them based on their usefulness. Reject anything that proves to be untrue.

[@Jaybird196]

My apologies. I thought you were serious. I was meaning if you were speaking to someone. No reinvention required. I will try to be more clear in the future.

[@wageslave4u]

Take a look at studies done with "split-brain" patients, whose corpus collosums were severed to prevent the spread of epilepsy. One example: One person was shown a card, to her right brain only, with the word "laugh". The researcher had told her to do as the card instructed. She began to laugh and when the researcher asked her why she was laughing, she says "oh you guys are really something..you must have told me a joke." This was her left brain responding, trying to complete the puzzle.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

Very good question. If there was a God who actually cared if humans 'believed' in Him, he'd make it absolutely and unambiguously clear that He existed.

[@tommy605]

I think the only difference between Islam and Christianity is that Muslims aren't afraid to put all their cards on the table at one time. Christians want to ease you into it, a little at the time. But make no mistake, Christian leaders want the same power as their Muslim counterparts, and will work towards that once the foot is in the doorway.

[@saamohod]

OK, it's getting clearer ))

[@valkolakk]

Yeah ok. The caller who called about islamophobia was not mischaracterizing what Pat Condell said about the mosque at ground zero. I can agree that I wouldn't want something like that to be financed by the Saudis and as an atheist I'm not too happy about any huge religious building but to basically equate radical Islam to all of Islam constitutes islamophobia, and that is very much what Pat did.

[@frosted1030]

You hit on the real issue, some people did not get a firm lesson from their parents on the separation of reality from fiction. Without a clear understanding of that, people are duped into believing anything.

[@spoddie]

Viking lander! I thought he was talking about guys with beards, and funny hats.

[@Csky1988]

lmao "what does that have to do with vikings?" i was thinking the same thing untill he mentioned mars and moons of jupiter

[@TheBeatKeeper]

I completely disagree with Jeff Dee in regards to Pat Condell. Prejudice is to prejudge, to judge someone prior to getting to know them. When you generalize ALL Muslims as being one way, thenI cant see how that ISNT prejudice.

[@Kailoa36]

I'm so tired of most discussions of "time" that try to make it a thing. "Time" is an abstract concept that allows us to measure duration, just as length, width, and height are abstract concepts that allow us to measure spacial objects.

[@aarrgghh]

russell @40:05 -- "they got to him."

[@Kailoa36]

Bobby - Los Angeles asked, "Is 2+2 still gonna = 4?" Yes, Bobby. Math is indeed mind independent, but it is not reality independent. 2+2=4 because that is an the nature of existence. Things exist. Things are quantifiable. If there are 2 things somewhere, and 2 more things arrive in that same place, there will then be 4 things there. That is a brute fact that doesn't prove anything supernatural.

[@giantspoon]

People admit that some man probably named Jesus did walk the Earth. But not that he was resurrected. Being as the only account of him actually existing popped up 200 years later, it's still debatable.

[@Harperlarp]

Skip to 32:02 to see Jeff losing the will to live. Then skip to 39:36 to see Jeff's unexpected brain freeze! lol

[@AdamOzkan]

Thanks!

[@lobofang9362]

Just moved to TN not to long ago and besides the fact of them allowing creationism theory to be taught in schools, the education system here sucks all around. My 12 yr old son went from having B's and C's in WA to getting A's here do to the fact that they are learning stuff about 2yrs behind what he was learning in Wa.

[@SpiritedAmore]

When ANY belief espouses hate towards innocent people and threatens their lives the victims have a right to protect and defend themselves. Suspicion of such hate spreading groups is not irrational it is natural.

[@ShinobuHarvester]

Gargantua! This looks promising, I hope it's not dead in the water.

[@DaniboyBR2]

Yeah, I absolutely agree with Pat Condell too, only after reading Hitchens and Orwell of course, I like "Islamophobia" better than "Islamofascism".