The Atheist Experience 765 with Russell Glasser and Don Baker

[@scarredqatsi]

I'm am so glad this show is out there. I hope it brings more people to our side. Religion is very dangerous. The sooner we can make people realize this the better.

[@tedgrant2]

My dog will very gently take a sausage from my hand, being careful not to bite me. He knows that eating a sausage is ok, but eating my fingers is not ok. I never taught him this rule. He worked it out himself.

[@LogicAndReason2025]

"I distrust those people who know so well what god wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." --- Susan B. Anthony

[@Dani-th6cl]

I'm so bothered by the first caller's baby torture example. Torturing someone is absolutely wrong. Torturing someone innocent and defenseless is absolutely wrong. What does the tool even mean by objective morality? If he means timeless, universal morality principle, he should just ask himself if he wants the same thing done to himself.

[@DamarisJohnsonnakomiah]

+Danielle Stormborn That was just a loaded question in general that appeared like an oxymoron. That guy doesn’t understand the concept of wellbeing.

[@fegolem]

I very much enjoy Don Baker's presentations as well as his interpretation and understanding of callers that seem to stumble over their words. Thanks, Don!

[@aidanhoward213]

The caller, Mike, queried whether torturing babies was morally right if the people who wanted to do it "felt okay" about it. What was not mentioned in reply is that "feeling okay" is not one of the essential objective criteria in determining right and wrong. Whereas right and wrong may not be objective in their absolute sense, our assessment of them can incorporate factors which are independently objective, such as the universal notion that life is preferable to death, health to unhealth, productivity to destruction, social cohesion to fragmentation, truth to falsehood, etc. None of these ingredients of assessment state that whether one "feels okay" about an action carries any weight in forming a social attitude to right and wrong.

[@recalcitrantmisanthr]

I just mean that everyone calls in and says, "so good to talk to you (Tracie/Matt/Russel/Jeff)". No one ever calls and says that Don is awesome. Which he is.

[@lorianabanana6066]

Agreed!! Not that the other hosts aren't awesome, cause they are.. but Don Baker rules!! Can he be my god?

[@tedgrant2]

We don't need a god to tell us that burning heretics is immoral.

[@matthewtenney2898]

Other than a bad feeling, how do you know killing is immoral?

[@tedgrant2]

@@matthewtenney2898 If killing is immoral, then God is immoral. (Genesis 38:10) If killing is immoral then Barack Obama is immoral. (May 2, 2011 Abbottabad, Pakistan)

[@BrokenCurtain]

"This is #1 on the predictability list" ...said the guy who asked the "where do atheists get their morals from"-question.

[@dragonrage122]

question, if they didn't know right from wrong before they ate the fruit, why be punished for eating fruit? they didn't know what 'wrong' was.

[@TheZooCrew]

dragonrage122 That's the right question. The Christian usually attempts to skirt this by acting as if obedience to authority is an ingrained aspect of humanity and doesn't require knowledge of right and wrong or the ability to appreciate the consequences of actions. This is nonsense, of course, but that's Christianity for you.

[@RealEstateDatabase256]

As one of the babies, I would not agree to being tortured.

[@presidentobummer447]

Better hope you're not a muslim or jewish baby then lol

[@FrankenPC]

The failure of biblical morality is biblical.

[@0LadyV0]

I say that if everyone agreed that torturing babies was okay the race would be short lived.

[@DamarisJohnsonnakomiah]

+0LadyV0 my thoughts exactly.

[@jessesipprell]

His "record"? You mean the 3000 cases of supposed children that remembered "past lives"? There are numerous peers of his that have published papers casting significant doubt on his methodology including detailed analysis of confirmation bias. One person's supernatural claims without *extraordinary* evidence is an insufficient basis for believing something to actually be true. So yes, Faith. Big time.

[@NathanWubs]

Please go to the evolution wikipedia and tell me if there is anything wrong with. No, better yet. Please go to the talk pages, with over 60 archives and tell the people there what is wrong with it. And you will see how Wikipedia while made by user unwanted and wrong info is filtered out. Especially on a article like evolution, which is even semi-protected against creationist vandalism. Also thanks for catching my mispelling.

[@hhvictor2462]

The first caller failed miserably in whatever he was attempting to do and got so butthurt over it in the end lol

[@KIDNROLL]

I subed. Although, caller #2 was way out in left field, I very much enjoyed this program. Thank you, future space travelers.

[@KazeKirin]

Please explain how you came to this idea using only Bible quotes. If you read the Bible, nowhere does it say anything of the sort. Women are fully expected to understand and uphold The Law, hence the law about killing women who touch your genitals to break up a fight for example. As for stoning, it's not abortion. It's execution. Stoning people was to the death. If they wanted an abortion, the Egyptians/Chinese figured out how to do that without throwing rocks long before this was written.

[@AcanLord]

Allot worse things in the bible. Levitivus chapter 26 verses 27 to 29 It is indicated that yahweh will force you to eat your children if you disobey him.

[@Santhix1]

If we go by your definition of faith (which is the same to blind faith) then I wouldn't agree with you. We have trust on what the shastras (scriptures) say based on experience and observation. For example reincarnation. Most people would say it is a believed based on faith, but actually it has reasonable justification. Ever hear of Dr. Ian Stevenson? He has 3.000 cases of reincarnation in his record. Based on that, how would you say it is unreasonable, or based on faith?

[@IAmSuperPerfect]

Well then what is the sense for this very trying life?? If you go through all the horrendous crap and then you lose it all?? I can NOT believe in such a thing. I don't believe in any one entity who will judge us when we pass... but I do believe in a creator. BTW: the original bible (Aramaic) states that the Elohim are the ones responsible for us being here. Elohim is plural, meaning many. This is what I believe. Scientists of another world put us here.

[@Zackindy0846]

Our worse enemy is ourselves, because we believe the lies we tell ourselves.

[@TheSandvichTrials]

Nothing lasts forever. If you can't let go of your life you're simply startled of death and want something to comfort you. "Eternal life sounds nice!"

[@BarbaraJD]

Jordan. The best advertisement for "just say no" that ever existed.

[@jgmartn]

Except, that there is.

[@goodbyebinarybrain]

Russell always makes some really good points.

[@calcolash86]

Those are my thoughts on the matter, but you are welcome to your beliefs and I respect that. Just wanted to share my own as it popped into my head as I read yours. All the best to you.

[@MrSighAnne]

Psychedelics are about understanding yourself. And by understanding yourself, you can have a greater understanding, and empathy, for others. Disagree? Do the research. There is only one way to know for sure- you have to take a chance on knowledge. NO RISK NO REWARD. DON'T BE A COWARD!

[@WeWantGoodCovers]

Thanks I did not know if that would work. Anyway, keep the videos comming.

[@HARMLESSPictures]

New viewer. New fan. Love the show.

[@bmwill1983]

When I was a believer, this was explained to me. Our pastor said that God knew where Adam was, but was giving Adam the choice to either come forward or remain hidden. Presumably, if he remained hidden, he would have suffered an even worse punishment. Another possible, more blasphemous, explanation I recently read is that Yahweh was imagined to be a child at this point in his career as a deity.

[@silverbars2508]

That's right. Why is it so hard for people to accept they won't exist when they're dead? They accept they weren't around before they were born!

[@pdoylemi]

If 80% of Americans were running around claiming that Michael Corlione was the ruler of the universe and we need to make our laws match his morality, I would fight that also. It is funny that you choose a gangster as your example as the Mafia "protection racket" is a good analogy for Christianity. "If you pay up and show 'respect' I'll keep you safe from the harm that I will do to you if you don't."

[@LogicAndReason2025]

Mike is just another Ray Comfort poser. Disingenuous at best. Just ask Mike what difference would it make? Who says? Even if this god didn't like it, nothing would stop it.

[@tedgrant2]

At the beginning of the 20th century, in the UK, fox hunting was legal and buggery was illegal. Now, it's the other way around.

[@recalcitrantmisanthr]

Don Baker is the most under rated host on this show.

[@tedgrant2]

Jesus said that if someone steals your sandal then give him the other one. They will need both. It's good advice.

[@RatherCynical]

It's especially odd when they seem to want to argue, yet they are frustrated when they're told that they're using fallacious/incoherent argumentation so their reasoning doesn't follow.

[@mattxdillon]

Smartest thing I've read all day.

[@WatermelonPeppermint]

LMFAO at the background cameramen laughing their asses off at the high dude.

[@donohue100]

I commend you for trying to explain this to people. I gave up long ago.

[@SporkyMcFly]

I know a good one too. Circular logic works because circular logic works and so on.

[@stuchly1]

As an atheist, I think morality is subjective. The subjectivity opens room for dialogue, we can entertain new ideas and eventually update our views. You can't argue with an absolute, and if you present a controversial situation to a "moral objectivist" he starts to sweat and seek a way how to avoid the answer. I think nothing should be immune to discussion or criticism - let's get rid of the tabu topics, those are the things that can be worked on, because most are afraid to talk about them. ;)

[@SpitViciouz]

I'm really glad Russel was fast enough to correct Don on the Bat/Spidey reference. I was just about to go nerd rage in the comments lol

[@Pheonix2022]

I don't mind watching it again

[@recalcitrantmisanthr]

Regardless, he brings good, well thought points to the conversation. Atheism isn't at all about debate skills but instead about having a solid, fact based foundation for your beliefs.

[@megatrollsecurity]

Duuuude your show has an awesome spiritual experience at 58:34 !

[@DenzelSeale]

Things like this makes me happy that in the usa we have the right to broadcast our thoughts.... without being killed or thrown in jail....for the most part

[@PauhovXiong]

I love how the guy on the left makes a connection with the idea of aliens. back then our ancestors mistakened extremely advanced alien technology as magic.

[@EmperorGarm]

Fuck, I made that comment *before* the caller started talking about psychedelics. Now I'm rolling my eyes that he lived down to my expectations.

[@ophios]

this. the moment a person says "god is mysterious, and we can't understand him." is the moment we should stop caring what they have to say since anything they say about god is heresay.

[@ROBINFREEMANTLE2012]

Every time you check into an hotel, chuck the gideon's bible in the trash and replace it with "The god delusion"

[@markedwardindc]

They were 90 zillion times more patient with that stoner guy than I ever would have been.

[@Weendigo172]

As a comic book fan, I laughed a bit when they attributed the comic quote to Batman. :)

[@1991stratplus]

Your right, thanks for the reminder. Cheers!!

[@berner]

Whenever I go to the super market and a child is acting unruly, I grit my teeth and keep my fingers crossed that the next stop the parent makes isn't to the edge of town with their unruly child and a bucket of stones.

[@DrChalkwithering]

If you say your position is impossible to explain, then you haven't spent enough time thinking about it.

[@SuperMemzzz]

This is not about selling your product or converting someone through well done marketing.

[@MagnusLootCrate]

Today I learned that people in Fort Wayne need to stay away from drugs.

[@aidanhoward213]

And DMT is not found in the human pineal gland. It has been found in rodents, and no further.

[@lboy1935]

You had a fucked education and childhood.

[@lboy1935]

+scylendrey your the fucking idiot dude. Google is must made up of web page published by college kids and various of other people not everything on that fucking search engine is fact most of the shit we know to day is conspiracy. We don't know shit.

[@lboy1935]

+scylendrey your absolutely right man but go take psychedelic experience or go search for answers man. Then talk to me.

[@michaelf4385]

+Aidan Howard Correct, however Rick Strassman called it long before and he was proved correct when they found it in the rats. Of course, we can only go with evidence but it could be likely.

[@stevenfjaxsen8464]

+Aidan Howard Yeah, you are right! I'm not going to lie as soon as I read your comment I was thinking this guy does not know what he is talking about! I'm glad I took the time to research it before I started trying to call you out on it! Because, I would have looked like a dumbass! lol! I have met so many people that have said that DMT is found in the human pineal gland! But, that does not seem to be the case. I appreciate your comment! I learned something today!

[@bleunt]

Haha, nice name drop on Psychonauts! :D He must be a real gamer if he's aware of that title.

[@GhostofAlanGrant]

jordan sounds so chill

[@La6Muerte66]

Correction to Jordan from Indiana: Tropane Alkaloids make you genuinely see things that aren't there.

[@brucebaker810]

44:30 Don messed up the joke. Buddha goes to a hot dog cart and says "make me one with everything". Not "give me one...".

[@bladudemovies]

People. Please stop clicking on the creationist comments and marking them as spam. We should leave them easily open to the public so their stupidity can be admired by all.

[@relaxxxrrr]

Isn't it funny how someone's "Spirit" changes with the physical chemistry of their brain?

[@nasty1182]

They should do an episode where they call a Christian TV show and debate those hosts. Like that guy off nightlight that's always getting pranked.

[@WolfehFenrir]

I know you didn't ask me, but I imagine death is just like passing out, without the waking back up part.

[@EdMarchal]

Yes, I am the one having a screw loose for saying that causing harm to other human beings is not moral. By saying that it's moral to kill the child, you imply directly that the act of killing is "GOOD", which it isn't because it causes harm. You can say however that you are morally justified to defend yourself as preserving your own life IS good. But that is something else entirely. I really don't think someone who believes that causing harm is moral should lecture on morality.

[@andyt7734]

"...for I would not have known lust, except that the law had said, “Thou shalt not covet.” Sexual attraction would have been present regardless of any writing. "For that which I do, I know not. For what I would do, that do I not; but what I hate, that I do."

[@2010topdog]

i think sometimes hating god can be a step into becoming atheist, like hating god for letting "evil" things let go unpunished, or the hypocracy of religious institutions can lead ppl to hate god. but a true atheist cant hate god

[@swektmaico]

My favourite is when the president of the greatest nation on earth explained that god had told him it was right to go to war. I can safely guarantee, even in writing that that never happened. So, a president who is lying or hallicunating, that is what we have to choose between? Which is more ok to you?

[@hs0003]

This show is one of the few things that allows me to keep hope that USA has a future..

[@reset999]

Your salvation lies in you and any people who have helped you and stood by you as you struggled to stand. It does not lie in imaginary friends or in superstition. It seems you mean well so I wish you the best of luck.

[@mWongAero]

The fact that we don't know something does not make it correct to make something up.

[@GapWim]

At around 46:50 with the doped up caller Jordan: - Caller: It's not necessarily like that, it's what you get out of it. - Russel Glasser: ok - Caller: It helped with my, like, I was an alcoholic for a little bit and it really helped with that - Russel Glasser: And now you’re doing LSD instead... !!!ROFLMAO!!!

[@SolSmoke]

yall about caused a shit storm with that batman spiderman mix up lol. keep doing what yall are doing.

[@silverbars2508]

And I would just add that if everything that makes us what we are are our memories and experiences, then you can not possibly claim we are the same person if you have no memory of a previous existence.

[@superstd]

"And the debate would be settled." if you look in the video, the caller doesnt want to answer question, its not a debate if its one sided, and the host is not there to provide ALL the answer. i think the moral standard of society keep changing because all within it wanted to better themselves/not caused harm to other people, the host wanted to ask the caller what his moral standard is (and caller avoid it) because moral standard come from all of us.

[@dangil125]

I really hate the whole "what if they are innocent" argument against the death penalty. It means nothing to me; this is not a reason not to kill someone, this is a reason for a better law system

[@TheAnubisDrake]

Do it! Be a hero!

[@CareFreeCommuting]

Maybe the point of the story with Abraham & Isaac is that though everybody had gods at that time period, this god who says he's one actually takes Abraham through a standard ritual at that time yet his god says, "hold on...I got this, I can provide just fine for myself thank you very much."

[@JanneFlinck]

thanks for answering :)

[@sweetb0yz]

Don Baker has quite broad shoulders. It's nice to see people like me, physically and intellectually. My shoulders are 21 inches wide, and my genitalia is 21 cm long. Isn't that quite a consequence? I also received a perfect score from an IQ test when i was a kid, when only 1 other person from a class of 20 received such a score. I'm "blessed" metaphorically saying.

[@threewiseman1]

The most frustrating thing about theists is that virtually none of them have any idea about the principles of argumentation. I see these sorts of examples all of the time.

[@earlgrey2130]

YES!!! 42:12 He knows psychonauts. My hero! :D Finally someone who plays GOOD games

[@lisakn27]

If you take questions to your pastor he will only show you one side, the god side. You need to look for yourself. If a pastor can't answer a question..he just says "It's not meant for us to understand". It's a loophole they all use. Try figuring it out on your own, you will be the best judge for yourself.

[@JohnSnowstorm]

my friend did LSD, saw a tree blowing in the wind and he said that every leaf was the incredible hulk dancing. doing drugs isn't a reliable path to truth.

[@artblack01]

It actually makes me want to move to England.

[@lisakn27]

Humans have instinct too. 'Fright or Flight" for example is instinct. We use it to survive. All animals have knowledge..even dogs have knowledge...it is a learned behavior to have knowledge. We aren't born with it, but we are born with instinct.

[@TooSweaty4U]

Also, i want to share another thought. I believe that an Atheist, in order to be coherent with what s/he (dis)/believes, must also disbelieve an objective moral standard. If s/he believes there's an objective moral standard where is it? what evidence there is of it? If s/he can demonstrate the existence of such standard or at least find enough evidence of its manifestations, then a proper scientific paper can be produced and be sent to peer review. And the debate would be settled.

[@machetero221]

The Psychodelic drugs guy should have said. "Nothing is True, everything is permit, all things are simple."

[@WeWantGoodCovers]

Is there eny possibility of making subtitles? I want to share your show here in Brazil, but translating would take too much time and would not be as perfect. Even EN subs would do it, so I can put it on google and translate. Thanks

[@andyt7734]

I don't think that you need a majority to determine whether morality is correct or incorrect. Majority only ensures that your shared point of view can be enforced. Morality IS subjective, relative to the individual.

[@cassindia1987]

I would rather live my life the way I want than be on my knees praying to an invisible being working for an afterlife that I don't believe exists. Life is hard and people don't want to take responsibility for that life. They want to believe that they are receiving some sort of supernatural help. This makes it easier for some people to live with mistakes that are made, but is it really worth wasting your life worrying about what will happen after you die?

[@KawarrenD]

Mind blown, did not realize that haha.

[@DrChalkwithering]

We're all lacking in knowledge on some questions. It's just that some people fool themselves into thinking that they know when in fact they don't know at all. It saddens me that there are people in the world who consider that kind of mindset to be a virtue (which they call "faith", but which I prefer to call "dangerous credulity")

[@baxtar1963]

The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church. - Ferdinand Magellan

[@VictoriousCatholic]

I said Christian nation, not religious. The Vatican would be more a theocracy, but still proves my point.

[@PatrickHansen101]

You people keep saying "is" instead of "was", so here's a clue for you: If you're not speaking in a past tense, how are people supposed to know that you're talking about the past?