The Badenoch vs Braverman ‘spat escalates’ | Isabel Hardman

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20 күн бұрын

“She often has these incredible spats. She likes a fight. I'm not sure she thinks about what is going to happen in two weeks time.”
Kemi Badenoch shows she can be quite “scrappy” as the “spat” between herself and Suella Braverman for the Conservative leadership “escalates”, says assistant editor at the Spectator Isabel Hardman.
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@poppad4kka
@poppad4kka 20 күн бұрын
Suella is the type of person that would deport her own reflection
@annlewis7685
@annlewis7685 20 күн бұрын
So funny..lol
@66liagle30
@66liagle30 20 күн бұрын
When assimilation becomes toxic
@jermaine2021
@jermaine2021 20 күн бұрын
Cold 😂
@DavisJ-ln6fw
@DavisJ-ln6fw 20 күн бұрын
Fact
@user-em3vl6li5w
@user-em3vl6li5w 20 күн бұрын
She is just a truly horrible person. Karma Ms Braverman.
@mrd64
@mrd64 20 күн бұрын
Still fighting to be bottom of the pile.
@moirahaarhoff5286
@moirahaarhoff5286 20 күн бұрын
Neither woman deserves promotion, ever!
@tommymorrison6478
@tommymorrison6478 20 күн бұрын
A Tory cat fight. Gorgeous. Let's hope it continues and that Badenoch wins. This will ensure the demise of the Tory party for a decade at least and possibly forever.
@gerardmackay8909
@gerardmackay8909 20 күн бұрын
As someone else said ‘Two harpies fighting over a meatless corpse’
@louisebrown4622
@louisebrown4622 20 күн бұрын
Quite a good description
@ISuperTed
@ISuperTed 20 күн бұрын
And they still wonder why they lost by so much 😂
@Tom_murray89
@Tom_murray89 20 күн бұрын
The tories will be out of power with either of them as leader of the opposition
@user-zc4yd9ss7h
@user-zc4yd9ss7h 20 күн бұрын
These two women deserve each other. As for which should be leader, I'm sure Badenoch will edge it and then get into a series of frantic rows with her colleagues, blaming everyone but herself for the mess. She will then be challenged inside a year. Braverman will defect to the Reform rabble, and get into rows with Farage and Tice.
@grahamtrave1709
@grahamtrave1709 20 күн бұрын
Both Badenoch and Braverman display behaviours symptomatic of unresolved childhood trauma. They are highly reactive and incapable of weighing up what the furtre outcomes could be of their actions made today, they are simply not programmed like that. Its crazy that either of them could consider that they have the experience or necessary tools to lead the Tories, but then again perhaps they will succeed and this will result in the further demise of the now decimated and irrelevant Conservative party.
@georgesdelatour
@georgesdelatour 20 күн бұрын
Have you heard of the Goldwater Rule?
@grahamf695
@grahamf695 20 күн бұрын
Interesting observation.
@QYXP
@QYXP 20 күн бұрын
​@@georgesdelatour op didn't claim to be a psychiatrist or gave any official diagnosis. Is a lay person offering an opinion on behaviours. Goldwater rule doesn't apply.
@georgesdelatour
@georgesdelatour 20 күн бұрын
@@QYXP You're right. The poster is even less qualified to offer such an opinion than the Democrat-supporting psychiatrists who libelled Goldwater.
@specialized500
@specialized500 20 күн бұрын
@@georgesdelatournever heard of it and I am very well informed and quite clever
@mogbrown8409
@mogbrown8409 20 күн бұрын
Badenoch has always had her eye on the main chance. She desperately wants to be Prime Minister. That is her goal and uses her race, hence the braids, to grab any opportunity that advances that. She is not in it to achieve the best for the U.K. nor its people.
@GodIsLove1015
@GodIsLove1015 20 күн бұрын
Badenoch will be a Traitor like Sunak.
@Nanack
@Nanack 11 күн бұрын
Really? She’s using her race because of her braids? Her constituents see her as a very CAPABLE person. Please stop playing the race card. If you have the appetite for it, perhaps you should consider running for office and see how many votes you’ll get.
@TheMarlinspike
@TheMarlinspike 20 күн бұрын
Kemi Badenoch is simply the most ludicrous choice of leader of the Tories you can imagine. Cruella is just nasty.
@arnoldsaunders6073
@arnoldsaunders6073 20 күн бұрын
I hope Suella does not become leader of the left wing Conservative Party. Then I hope she will join us in Reform and bring a lot of members with her.
@elih9700
@elih9700 20 күн бұрын
she's the best chance the tories have, you as a Labour voter will never understand this.
@Unclemart99
@Unclemart99 20 күн бұрын
She is the choice because she is traditional conservative I am guessing you have other reasons to not like her.
@judyparsons1333
@judyparsons1333 20 күн бұрын
They need someone nasty
@cedcol356
@cedcol356 20 күн бұрын
they're both racists
@Tom_murray89
@Tom_murray89 20 күн бұрын
If Badenoch or braverman do win the tories are finished
@dilekavan5796
@dilekavan5796 20 күн бұрын
I would like it very much then
@nowgrownup
@nowgrownup 20 күн бұрын
Don't talk ridiculous 😂
@WhizzRichardThompson
@WhizzRichardThompson 19 күн бұрын
​@@nowgrownupYou start Ivan
@russellnewton6660
@russellnewton6660 20 күн бұрын
The Conservative Party is where it is because of people like these two.
@Ninjjadog
@Ninjjadog 20 күн бұрын
It needed to, it's a total mess
@nowgrownup
@nowgrownup 20 күн бұрын
Wait 6 month after labour have been power see if you feel the same then you will see what clowns you have voted in 😂😂😂😂
@chrisnieto5547
@chrisnieto5547 20 күн бұрын
No , it’s because most Tories became liberals and not Tories
@russellnewton6660
@russellnewton6660 20 күн бұрын
@@chrisnieto5547 glad you’re thinking that way 👍
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 20 күн бұрын
@@nowgrownup They've already done more in a week than the tories did in 14 years and I'm not a Labour voter.
@kennethhodges3187
@kennethhodges3187 20 күн бұрын
God help is from both of these people! The only salvation is that they are both out of government and can and only harp from the sidelines!
@nowgrownup
@nowgrownup 20 күн бұрын
You won't be saying that in 12 month that is guaranteed if you live UK 😂😂😂😂
@lokischildren8714
@lokischildren8714 20 күн бұрын
Both are horrible women
@nowgrownup
@nowgrownup 20 күн бұрын
So are Rayner and Abbott and Reeves and Phillips so 4 to labour party 2 to Conservative so labour wins the party with most horrible women 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@WhizzRichardThompson
@WhizzRichardThompson 19 күн бұрын
​@@nowgrownupYeah whatever troll.
@user-tn1hv7lt8f
@user-tn1hv7lt8f 20 күн бұрын
Maybe they'll cancel each other out like a couple of fractions.
@DrMattiLabbratt
@DrMattiLabbratt 20 күн бұрын
Nice! 👌
@HOLLYHOCKFLOWERS
@HOLLYHOCKFLOWERS 20 күн бұрын
😅😅😅😅
@thefilmandmusic
@thefilmandmusic 20 күн бұрын
What a hideous pair ..They sr]till don’t get it , why they lost ‘criminality’
@EuricoRoberto
@EuricoRoberto 20 күн бұрын
Both irrelevant people thank you for the free publicity.
@nowgrownup
@nowgrownup 20 күн бұрын
Did you have to go to university to learn how to write such nonsense both are voted in MP and both possibly in line as head of the Conservative Party they have achieved more than you as you are a nobody and totally irrelevant 😂😂😂😂😂
@philipriley2253
@philipriley2253 20 күн бұрын
What Baffles me is the electorate in both North West Essex & Fareham who actually votes for them. What a stain these two individuals are not only on the tory party, but the constituencies they are supposed to represent. Imagine asking either for help as a constituent..
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 20 күн бұрын
Battle of the viles.
@tapaarn5863
@tapaarn5863 20 күн бұрын
If find it difficult to describe either of them as Politicians. They're like two middle ranking managers in retail, vying for the area managers job. But it's fun to watch them ripping at each other. And my guess is that Reform are going to become more significant in the next couple of years, than these two rather mediocre politicians. They'll likely end up joining Reform at some point: They could then consider renaming themselves, CONFORM!
@TrevorBarre
@TrevorBarre 20 күн бұрын
The Tories were booted out because they were terrible, nothing do do with "luck", a notion that of course The Spectator would happily endorse.
@vincentvangogh8092
@vincentvangogh8092 20 күн бұрын
cant see traditional tories voting for these two
@rwo5402
@rwo5402 19 күн бұрын
are you tal;king about tory voters or tory members? If you are talking about members they will certainly with unerring precision pick the craziest and nasties one.
@chesterdonnelly1212
@chesterdonnelly1212 19 күн бұрын
Tory members love Badenoch. Reform voters love Braverman.
@ivanconnolly7332
@ivanconnolly7332 20 күн бұрын
Two vile adversaries.
@dilekavan5796
@dilekavan5796 20 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@Mystics-_-
@Mystics-_- 20 күн бұрын
How are they vile? Just because they have a different view? Wouldn’t that also make you vile? Hypocrisy at its finest 😂
@ivanconnolly7332
@ivanconnolly7332 19 күн бұрын
@@Mystics-_- If you cant see their vileness you need help.
@kms6465
@kms6465 20 күн бұрын
Badenoch could start a fight in an empty house.
@smarcier2719
@smarcier2719 20 күн бұрын
Two types of nastiness floating in the same toilet bowl of the Tory party.
@lazslostpierre9951
@lazslostpierre9951 20 күн бұрын
An irresistible farce versus an immovable abject.
@DD-ro1zk
@DD-ro1zk 20 күн бұрын
Big gob really. Can't rein it in. Hence they lost massively
@vincentvangogh8092
@vincentvangogh8092 20 күн бұрын
too emotional
@stevecoppin6396
@stevecoppin6396 20 күн бұрын
what a pity the tories were never subject to such scrutiny in 14 years !
@UdoBloss
@UdoBloss 20 күн бұрын
As someone has said, "Two Harpies picking over a meatless corpse"
@arnoldsaunders6073
@arnoldsaunders6073 20 күн бұрын
Harpies? The Labour from bench looks as if it was recruited in the bar in the first star wars film.
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 20 күн бұрын
@@arnoldsaunders6073 When you base your insults on peoples appearence you're not worth listening to.
@arnoldsaunders6073
@arnoldsaunders6073 20 күн бұрын
@@mobsiesixsixsix9785 Well, we receive enough insults from the globalist cult members, so occasionally we also dish it out. The difference is, we can take it, because we are not snowflakes.
@jonm7272
@jonm7272 19 күн бұрын
Just trying to imagine what the home counties tory gammons are thinking about these two ethnic minority women fighting for control of their precious tory party. They must be hating this 😂
@davidjames2083
@davidjames2083 20 күн бұрын
*Emily Thornberry is **_"in the right position"_** - in the back of the Transit van!* 👍😂🍺
@_Stroda
@_Stroda 20 күн бұрын
Imagine being part of a duo that, somehow, makes Priti Patel seem like a better option.
@bc5295
@bc5295 20 күн бұрын
Bit rich for Tories to watch the party they support make itself unelectable through corruption and incompetence and then whine that means Labour has been "lucky".
@luganoaman
@luganoaman 20 күн бұрын
Braverman talks a lot but did absolutely nothing when she was in charge. Badeoch talks a good game but what will she do when in charge???
@TheSuperPsychoKiller
@TheSuperPsychoKiller 20 күн бұрын
The never ending clown show. Starmer should give the Lib Dems some of his MPs so the Lib Dems can lead the house in asking questions instead of clowns.
@TooDarnSoulful
@TooDarnSoulful 20 күн бұрын
I love it opens his popcorn -party has been split beyond repair since Brexit - no way can they have unity - ever !
@pholdway5801
@pholdway5801 20 күн бұрын
They are not in power now . And are not spending wastefully as LIE BORE are doing WE ARE BILLIONS IN DEBT AND LIEBORE are WASTING even more
@geoffauldfield4664
@geoffauldfield4664 20 күн бұрын
This is planned. She knows the person who shouts loudest gets most attention. Badenoch was virtually unknown and is now top news. Farage, Johnson and Truss also used this trick.
@carlmichael5592
@carlmichael5592 19 күн бұрын
It's very easy to appear competent when your are being compared to Johnson, Truss & Sunak. The fact that Keir Starmer has intelligence and integrity just widens the gulf.
@finlybenyunes8385
@finlybenyunes8385 19 күн бұрын
YOU'RE
@kevinwalton4538
@kevinwalton4538 20 күн бұрын
Badenough and “think” are not two words I’d ever link!
@artel6225
@artel6225 20 күн бұрын
All that is hideously wrong & banal within the Conservative Party.
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 20 күн бұрын
If Sunak had gone for Autumn, the election result would be the same.
@LuzDoSol-yr5bv
@LuzDoSol-yr5bv 20 күн бұрын
It's hard to pick. " Team Bravaman " or " Team Bendonoch" if you have to choose one, fears competition.😂😂
@annlewis7685
@annlewis7685 20 күн бұрын
No need to pick. They are both 'two face' of the same coin.
@LuzDoSol-yr5bv
@LuzDoSol-yr5bv 20 күн бұрын
@annlewis7685 Thanks, Ann, save me from that job. 🤣🤣
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 19 күн бұрын
"The eye, the eye, give me the eye"
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 20 күн бұрын
The City like everyone else was sick of 8 years of Tory chaos. Sunak can't turn round a squabbling pack of rats which is what the tories have descended into
@fiachramaccana280
@fiachramaccana280 20 күн бұрын
a cobra vs a pit viper
@nowgrownup
@nowgrownup 20 күн бұрын
Your not british or live UK your views are irrelevant 😂😂😂
@fiachramaccana280
@fiachramaccana280 20 күн бұрын
@@nowgrownup internet is global and nobody gets to shut anybody down. You lost the election and that is very releevant....
@user-em3vl6li5w
@user-em3vl6li5w 20 күн бұрын
T he Tories were so inept, I’m not a Starmer fan, but he appears proficient, and his Cabinet compared to the absolute ineptitude of recent Tory Cabinets, poles apart. I’m pretty sure they can only improve on the last 14 years.
@user-sq7nk9us6f
@user-sq7nk9us6f 20 күн бұрын
Suella and Badenoch deserve each other. The country deserves far better. We need a competent opposition not repugnant ego driven dramas.
@pauldockree9915
@pauldockree9915 20 күн бұрын
Actually😅😅😅 I found I did not care for my own country of birth. How liberating that is. 20 years😢😮😊
@Gruffydom
@Gruffydom 20 күн бұрын
Cruella vs Bad Enough
@pip1723
@pip1723 20 күн бұрын
Tories lost they are out thankfully couldn't care less about their leadership pantomime .
@vincentvangogh8092
@vincentvangogh8092 20 күн бұрын
if we want to sort out divisions in society its better to have a more decent tory party wishful thinking by me for sure
@noneyourbiz
@noneyourbiz 20 күн бұрын
"She often has these incredible spats"😂. If only she had tried to read CRT, she would understand these EMERGING RHETORICS decisively constructing A PECULIAR LABEL of ANGER ISSUES😂. Well😂
@sylviawillmot4365
@sylviawillmot4365 20 күн бұрын
Why do these people not recognise that people are sick and tired of the Tories destroying everything. Thank goodness the adults are back in the room.
@stoyanfurdzhev
@stoyanfurdzhev 19 күн бұрын
They have to form a new party called Britain today, with Nigel Farage as honorary chairman.
@fabienmerteuil6226
@fabienmerteuil6226 20 күн бұрын
He went early because he couldn’t get Rwanda off the ground. It was blowing up in his face
@carlgreene538
@carlgreene538 19 күн бұрын
It's not a fight it's an argument.
@shermoore1693
@shermoore1693 20 күн бұрын
Tory's LACK of luck??? They're lucky they managed to stay in Downing Street for so long.
@michaelahern6821
@michaelahern6821 19 күн бұрын
They're lucky they're not in prison the whole lit of em..
@michaelahern6821
@michaelahern6821 19 күн бұрын
They're lucky they're not in prison...
@Oluinneachain
@Oluinneachain 20 күн бұрын
She will lead them into the political wilderness 😂
@theshadowdirector
@theshadowdirector 20 күн бұрын
Sure, I'll trust insider knowledge about Labour from an editor of the Spectator.
@jokos1384
@jokos1384 20 күн бұрын
GOT MY POPCORN, ENJOYING CAT FIGHT BEFORE GRAND FINALE DOG FIGHT THIS SUNDAY BETWEEN ENGLAND & SPAIN
@schofield4836
@schofield4836 20 күн бұрын
Not doing themselves any favours
@WaineBGallagher
@WaineBGallagher 20 күн бұрын
Not luck to take advantage of other's missteps. It's good judgement. Tories can't believe anyone other then them has good judgement, and can't see that the outgoing government had absoluetly no competence at all. Desperately trying to big themselves up by doing the usual, tearing others down. Despicable party.
@shanghaichica
@shanghaichica 20 күн бұрын
Kemi sounds like she is unwell. Who starts arguments without thinking about the consequences. She doesn’t sound fit to be an MP let alone leader of the conservatives.
@UseDgh
@UseDgh 19 күн бұрын
I can't get past seeing Badenoch as a contestant on the Apprentice.
@sovereignjoe5730
@sovereignjoe5730 20 күн бұрын
You're turning out to be a bit of a let down Kemi, looks like you're selling out & becoming just another Tory.
@lauralee9482
@lauralee9482 19 күн бұрын
The Tories are still blaming everyone, including themselves. When will they realise that is a part of why they failed.
@quicksesh
@quicksesh 5 күн бұрын
choosing between those two is like choosing between contracting Gonorrhea or Syphilis - you actually want neither.
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 20 күн бұрын
She has no decorum whatsoever. She embarrassing
@danielo1312
@danielo1312 20 күн бұрын
Oh no! She has got this far by standing up for herself. She is used to no one defending her. This slur is just bad. Be fair and kinder please.
@iankuah8606
@iankuah8606 19 күн бұрын
The man who threw stuff over Starmer is lucky. Remember what happened to the idiot who tried to asault 'Two Jags' Prescott who was a boxer in his youth?
@anthonyso1556
@anthonyso1556 20 күн бұрын
Is there any other option.? If there are only these two options, I prefer Braverman, at least she could point out Rishi's terrible policies. Badenoch stayed on Rishi cabinet. Braverman dares to say no.
@trevellyanblack4101
@trevellyanblack4101 20 күн бұрын
Kemi Badenoch has a notoriously short fuse, infamous for storming out of a Canada trade deal over British car exports. Do the Tories want someone like that as their new leader? Unfortunately on previous form the answer is probably yes.
@stevejohnstone1702
@stevejohnstone1702 18 күн бұрын
if they choose Badenoch or Braverman for leader they will be out for 10yrs min. We can only hope.
@samuelhowell7364
@samuelhowell7364 20 күн бұрын
clash of the titans
@DrMattiLabbratt
@DrMattiLabbratt 20 күн бұрын
Godzilla vs Rodan 😂
@WORKERS.DREADNOUGHT
@WORKERS.DREADNOUGHT 20 күн бұрын
Get in! Go on girl - you tell 'er. FIGHT!
@japfourme381
@japfourme381 20 күн бұрын
Badenoch let us all down on Brexit, EU deregulation!!
@user-hh8hv6on1o
@user-hh8hv6on1o 17 күн бұрын
All the while sewagella and bladderwrack fight it out they aren't doing anyone else damage. Long may it carry on.
@encoreunefois1X
@encoreunefois1X 20 күн бұрын
I't's so disheartening, this undertone of Tory entitlement, of the Tories being the natural party of government. I could barely be more miserable under a 1970s Warsaw Pact Communist regime than I have been under the seemingly eternally ruling Tories. I'd love Braverman to lead them but Badenoch would do just fine. Dreadful, the lot of them!
@mandymann
@mandymann 20 күн бұрын
Your Starmer coverage is so biased. He should be credited for seeming competent and prepared yet you seem to focus on these positives and downplay them.
@ScruffyTubbles
@ScruffyTubbles 20 күн бұрын
I think that Isobel Hardman has a First Class Degree in Literature from The University of Exeter. Kemi Badenoch has lots of bolt on degrees from other places but in reality doesn't have the same gravitas at all. A brawler yes. Product of sharp elbowed parents yes.
@kevonslims7269
@kevonslims7269 20 күн бұрын
Ben Wallace if he stated in government would be leading this contest if he ran.
@russellmarriott9396
@russellmarriott9396 20 күн бұрын
They’re both irrelevant.
@pauldockree9915
@pauldockree9915 20 күн бұрын
Bad Enoch? Sorry Kemi. Badenoch. Bye bye Sue Ellen Braverman? I plan to support Spain in the final.
@stephenjackson1828
@stephenjackson1828 19 күн бұрын
Whiff of luck? The times really are clutching at straws!
@robinmcara793
@robinmcara793 20 күн бұрын
Stop giving these ppl airtime jeez 😂😂😂😂
@AndymacUK
@AndymacUK 20 күн бұрын
Badenoch will be the greatest leader of the Tory Party ever! She will outshine even Churchill! Her natural charisma and vibrant personality appeals to all!"
@ute0761
@ute0761 20 күн бұрын
Please spare us both!!!
@timbrown4576
@timbrown4576 20 күн бұрын
Hey Tory party, you're just not learning are you.
@anindyamajumdar4088
@anindyamajumdar4088 20 күн бұрын
Kami Badenoch is NOT Parliamentary Party leadership material, let alone Prime Ministerial material. She is arrogantly bad mannered and lacks the etiquette to be a Prime Minister. Annoying the speaker enough to rebuke her arrogance does not suggest that she has the quality to hold a Front bench post .
@tonydecastro6340
@tonydecastro6340 19 күн бұрын
what she says about Sue G is utter nonsense.
@francisravenscroft-dw6gi
@francisravenscroft-dw6gi 20 күн бұрын
Badenock is incapable of being diplomatic- therefore she not be elected as Torie leader. She not capable of building concenus. The next Torie leader should withdraw the whip and then she can either become a reform MP or an independent - or just go away.
@pauldockree9915
@pauldockree9915 20 күн бұрын
Oh. Watch this? Terms of endearment. Quote. Yup. That one Aurora Greenway : Would you like to come in? Garrett Breedlove : I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.
@josefschiltz2192
@josefschiltz2192 20 күн бұрын
Interesting to find out just which KZbin platforms will accept which comments. This one is, by far, one that I've found that is very policed by a comment bot. Now, I wonder which words it reacts against?
@edwardmiller3859
@edwardmiller3859 20 күн бұрын
Can you Imagine a white male arguing with either of them
@user-wx6fl3pc1x
@user-wx6fl3pc1x 20 күн бұрын
This two clowns should stay away. Conservatives need a new leader not connected with the previous government.
@ihmcallister
@ihmcallister 19 күн бұрын
Both these flakes proving that neither of them should even by MPs, never mind leader of a dying political party.
@patrikfloding7985
@patrikfloding7985 19 күн бұрын
Love it!
@terrymann1341
@terrymann1341 18 күн бұрын
Utterly Pathetic, the pair of them, they might as well stick with Sunak...
@robertstraw9881
@robertstraw9881 20 күн бұрын
Kemi Badenoch 😆 go ahead guys, give her the job.
@bongasasa3895
@bongasasa3895 20 күн бұрын
The nasty party is dead and gone the bad luck has been lifted that’s why!
@RopekingRopethemall
@RopekingRopethemall 20 күн бұрын
REFORM
@ianworley8169
@ianworley8169 20 күн бұрын
Just the Leader the Tories need to unify the Party. 😂😂😂
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