The battle lost against America’s deadliest fire in over 100 years

NBC News’ Tom Llamas reveals new details of the blaze that tore through Lahaina. Firefighters reflect on the inferno, survivors share what life looks like now, and a former official speaks out, saying more could have been done to prevent catastrophe.
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The battle lost against America’s deadliest fire in over 100 years
#Maui #Lahaina #Hawaii

[@krystalmartinez3012]

FEMA made my parents in law jump through tons of hoops to get rental assistance and now say they will not help because we have insurance. Shame on all of them we will never sell this sacred land. We are protectors and will never let them forget what happened here.

[@photon6100]

It was obviously more important that we pay the pensions of government officials in Ukraine. Disgusting. The governor,mayor and police chief in Lahaina are big time criminals. They are obfuscating and lying about this incident.

[@randomexploring541]

What would happen if all the tourists just set up camp on their property and others in support of Lahaina people and in protest of this corruption? They are playing the if we can’t have it no one can card like immature greedy selfish bad kids 😂

[@andrewanonymous1106]

Don’t sell it.

[@Jeffrey-kz7ry]

No justice in a corrupt society and the people were supposed to trust turning blind eyes 💯of anyone who just shuts up ur the problem..this is laughably the most corrupt very sad

[@Bruce_LeRoyy]

Mean while they sent another check to Ukraine of $100 million

[@dapv144]

The people of Hawaii and specifically Lahaina, have been robbed, and everyone should be outraged. Who is behind it, and what can be done to hold them accountable and help the people there?

[@punapeter]

what good is blame? Life happens.

[@BalakeHart-nh4xh]

Electric companies downed power lines..up to 100 mph winds.

[@jasondaniels640]

It's climate change. No where is really prepared but it's only a few more years before the sirens go off..

[@punapeter]

@@BalakeHart-nh4xh perfect storm, no ONE'S fault

[@1HeatWalk]

what about the other towns that burned in California? I am asking because I have no idea how they are doing now and if they got robbed. I am trying to get a new insurance to cover my house because our current one will be terminating. We live in a low risk area, . Big insurer companies are running out of California in drove. IT'S NUTS!

[@hollymorris2550]

That’s my second cousin, Aina Kohler & our home on Front Street is also now dust. Her surf school was an awesome outlet for the kids in the KamIII Elementary school… now also burnt down. Our hearts are still broken… the government needs to help. For the first week after it was community effort for survival. We are lucky that we, and our pets made it out alive. There was no warning. 💔

[@crystalsswtor3760]

One thing we all learn quickly, don't count on the government. They do things in their best interest, not ours. I hate to say that, but it's true.

[@grungestoryteller]

Sadly this is just what happens its happened all over its proof of climate changing

[@surferduck420]

Prayers🙏✝️ 💯🦆🌊🤙Ohana🤙

[@TheAgentAssassin]

@@grungestoryteller LAHAINA means "merciless sun" The Hawaiians named it that because it was always a dry and hot climate. You need to go buy a 6 pack of Mountain Dew.

[@heathergatfield667]

I am so very sry. That just blows my mind that you weren't given warning. Those bells should've 🔔 been going off. Like even the making of this video. There's someone laying on the beach. Looks like the fumes from the fire overcame her. Someone in the vehicle says how someone is laying there. The driver says no!!! They didn't have the time. Like you gotta be kidding me? They were right there. 2 of them popped out & grabbed her. She probably would've lived. It would've only taken 2 secs...1 min tops. I'm not 100% sure...but I thought the people taping the video were fire fighters...& if that's is indeed true. They should be let go from fire fighting.🔥 cuz they should never had let that woman lay there & die forsure. I really was taken back by that. Not cool whatsoever

[@davidstafford10]

The water was shut off, the electricity was hot, the children were sent home and no cell service. They sent the people into the fire. The ones that went around the barricades survived. This is not normal. This is how they take the land.

[@chair9416]

They shut the schools down the day before due to the winds. Did you watch any of the police body cam directly disputing them “blocking the roads” 🙄 there were no barricades blocking people from leaving the town, they stopped the people from going into lahaina. There was no cell phone service because all of the infrastructure was knocked out from the Highwinds.

[@camdenmatter3742]

And we have sent over 75 billion dollars to Ukraine, and the Lahaina residents get barely anything when they are part of us. SMH

[@juanitainez3399]

Please stop saying children were sent home from school. That’s is not true!! The fires happened on the last day of summer break & no public schools were in session.

[@EmeraldRainbowGLORY]

The Fricken' World Class Siren Warning System that is tested every month....was NEVER used❤️‍🔥🙀💨❤️‍🔥💔❤️‍🔥Most folks had no warning... no siren warning system used at all🙀💔❤️‍🔥The powers that should have been the responsible authorities who knew how to save lives have refused to admit they FAILED the beautiful people of LaHaina & all those souls who burned alive because of the incompetent authorities who utterly did everything wrong that could be done wrong😮💔❤️‍🔥🌬🙏🏼

[@Hd7725HBLTMR]

“The water was shut off” Water main ruptures as a result of extreme heat usually means “lost”… Please refrain from wild theory’s

[@tahiasmith331]

NBC please edit and blur the image of the lady on the ground. This community is small and her family still lives here. Did you even reach out to them?

[@susannetaylor9914]

💯 Agreed. Have that respect!

[@zekeharley]

can't tell who it is

[@joanbeauregard9338]

I hope someone did stop for that poor soul. Andi think you may be correct: have respect for her and consider her family who might have seen enough to recognize her.

[@stevenboddy4232]

If it wasn't all intentional it was definitely intentional neglect and definitely no support. How sad. I hope those people never sell their land, if that's an option

[@susannetaylor9914]

​@babskaz74Evil Elites! Nothing can ever change my mind! I believe this WAS intentional.

[@PuaOlena-fj9oc]

Please don’t fill your hearts with false stories of evil people and blue laser. It’s not true….and it’s horrible that you would think that 💙🙏🏼💙

[@susannetaylor9914]

@@PuaOlena-fj9oc I'm really sorry but it's very naive of u to think the way. A lot of people that actually live there and went through this actually believe it was intentional. Including my brother's family and many others. Believe what you want. It was just my opinion and I am welcome to it, just as you are yours. I don't think it's horrible at all. I think it's probable. And yes, may God help us all.

[@jamessuter551]

Long time Maui visitor here, for close to 50 years. The Aug. 2018 fire should've been a wake up call to the potential for a catastrophic fire. No one at the county government level did enough to prevent this. Herman Andaya's incompetence bordered on criminality and as a result untold people lost their lives unnecessarily. Both the county and state government have lacked any transparency and have denied the victims of this fire access to their homes or what's left of their property. BTW my sister was on island for both fires and her oldest son narrowly missed being stuck in Lahaina that afternoon. I am in anguish and anger as I think of what my friends and the residents have lost. Lahaina was a treasure, a treasure that shouldn't have been lost.

[@bjrnandersson4234]

I lived in Wahikuli.. though my house is gone, i'am thankful for my life and those of my roommates. My prayers still go out to my neighbors and many others in Lahaina. but we will rebuild. #LahainaStrong

[@crystalsswtor3760]

I'm sorry this happened to you all. Bottom line, greed is what caused this fire. Bottom line, the power should have been shut off due to the high winds, and the alarms should have been sounded. Tsunami's are rare, those alarms should be for all uses.

[@kevinkillsit]

The alarms were clearly outlined by the city documents and procedures to be used for a fire as well. Leadership failure.

[@punapeter]

day late dolla short, backseat driver, gald you wazint in da car. Power shut off... no water pumps... no fire hydrant... ok now what?

[@crystalsswtor3760]

@@punapeter Hey Barbara glad you chose your words wisely!!!!!

[@punapeter]

@@crystalsswtor3760 Ney Bertha I'm happy you're glad. Get a life.

[@sarahrose4126]

The power lines were deenergized by 10 AM on the 8 th. Powerlines falling down had nothing to do with this destruction . ADP Towing company and a brand new affordable housing complex called Kaiaulu o Kupuohi just opened in December of 2022, were completely burned to the ground and both facilities are in a large commercial complex with underground utility lines . Kaiaulu o Kupuohi was a brand new completely concrete building that could not have caught fire from " embers " or telephone lines even if there were any in that complex ( which there are not ). Whatever burned Kaiaulu o Kupuohi to the ground was arson. Whether that arson was with diesel, or gasoline, or chemical accelerants like thermite matters not. It was burned to the ground by arson.

[@raymondleongdiva]

Bless these innocent people who lost everything and have to rebuild their lives. Someone needs to take responsibility for their errors. God bless these lovely folks struggling to rebuild and may the departed rest in peace ❤

[@douglasretzer5462]

Errors? No intentional!!!

[@TripsandFeasts1]

This is beyond shameful. Those few people who could’ve acted differently so as to have prevented this tragedy should face the consequences, whether the legal ones is their present lives, or the moral ones in whatever comes next.

[@ZENETTI18S]

This was and is a sickening display of incompetence for all those in charge of peoples safety in the community. A breakdown in communication and action in every aspect. Those who had a hand in this will one day get the karma they deserve, unfortunately at the cost of those that perished.

[@joelewis5187]

If you make a request to your leaders, and they don’t listen. They are not your leaders. This is a wake up call. Time to elect new leaders. One who have the best interest of the people in mind. Not their back pockets. This is a failure of leadership. People need to be held accountable for this failure in leadership. How sad, I pray for each and every one of you affected by this horrible event.

[@heathergatfield667]

Very well put.

[@bugsy742]

If only voting made a blind bit of difference mate ☹️

[@Lelabear]

Problem is most of these yahoos are freshly elected. By the time the elections roll around again the damage will be irreversible. They need to be removed from office NOW to send a clear signal to officials who think the public won't push back on failed policies.

[@bobbobertson6249]

I need no LEADERS

[@Details99]

Then you see the blue car and umbrellas untouched.. Sick, worlds biggest land grab

[@bobbobertson6249]

Sacrifice

[@Details99]

@@bobbobertson6249 would you be willing to explain what you are talking about?

[@susan638]

@@Details99 I guess that info isn't allowed here on KZbin, they just censored me for trying to answer your question. 🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐

[@Details99]

@@susan638 makes total sense doesn't it

[@kevinfox6220]

I truly hope someone at NBC News will dig a little deeper into the people behind the fires (plural) that were used to wipe this amazing place off the map. I have been able to do my own research online and from afar and have found too many troubling details and connections and probabilities. I'd like to know if criminal investigations are ongoing, if motives and means are being explored, as opportunities certainly existed and continue to exist. The locals need added help, as they have already shared witness accounts of things that do not add up to 'just a bad day' or 'just a wildfire that got too big'. Please conduct investigative reporting. Imagine if this had been some other small town or city but on the mainland - like at Carmel or Monterey or Palo Alto in California - what would the response be? What if it were intentional, planned, executed, and now being disposed of? Please investigate.

[@briankistner4331]

Network TV never will be honest in the reporting about this. Those who own the networks, own the news are also those hoping to bank on the land grab going down.

[@donnawolfe2365]

NBC News did not take the time to truly research and explain the Fire and all the details of the failed emergency Response to the public! So, what was put out here was incomplete and Lacking, placating the public when the Truth is.......We still don't have the full Truth and all the facts about this fire!

[@Dovietail]

Heaven bless these good folks as they continue to grieve and recover.

[@ForestNinjaZero]

It's difficult to believe that anyone feels they can't do anything to save someone who is only suffering from the effects of smoke inhalation.

[@KING6TYLER.]

I would of stopped to check her

[@williamking3166]

Makes me sick you judging people like this the guy is driving through flames all around him can barely see where he was going. You wouldn’t have made it out

[@ForestNinjaZero]

@@williamking3166Not judging, but it reflects lack of fire and hazmat education in their state and/or community. They ran from their houses when fire was discovered, which means she wasn't on the road for more than a few minutes. She could have been saved with fresh air and CPR.

[@Buasop]

It's been 5 years since the Camp Fire in Paradise and there are still people living in Fema trailers. Thanks PG&E and Gov Newscum

[@OhioPalmTrees]

Dang those dudes in the truck straight up left that woman for dead. Would of taken 20 second to stop and lift her into cab. If you go on google street view and look at all these neighborhoods that burnt they are all surrounded by knee-high dead grass. When you live in a coastal environment where winds exist you just can't have that. Same with above ground power lines. We place them underground in ohio why would hawaii and CA where wayyy higher winds exist not do the same? They really need to look into pumps built for chlorine or acids and just use massive monitors pulling from the ocean.

[@d.m.5017]

😢Lord God Have Mercy on all the victims🕊🙏🏽😪Just Heartbreaking! Wicked set of people, if this was done deliberately for land!

[@PuaOlena-fj9oc]

When they speak of “land grabs” they are speaking of after effects. There might be one or two very vocal people that believe this was intentional…..but 99% people that were/are here know it was the wind. Please don’t fill your heart with “evil people”. It’s just NOT true….and we are healing as best we can. 💙🙏🏼💙

[@bgregg55]

All they had to do was de-energize the power grid before it started the fires & HECO had plenty of time to do it.

[@jasondaniels640]

And no one would have complained?

[@jasondaniels640]

We're over reliant on electricity and the inevitable complaints about no power would have factored in the decision.

[@justmee9441]

That's all huh? Just like that ah? Mental

[@sarahrose4126]

HECO did deenergize the lines by 10 AM on the 8 th. I'm not sure how this " documentary " got that fact wrong. Even police tapes confirm that every time police officers called to report a downed line, the HEcO operators kept telling them they'd deenergized the lines. Many people didn't have electricity as early as 4 AM on the 8 th. NBC needs to do better with their fact checkers.

[@sensen1080]

The power was already off. @@jasondaniels640

[@andinewman4865]

So so sad. My heart breaks every time I see or read anything about that fire -so sad for all of you. You are all in my prayers.

[@JedidiahMaya]

Surviving residents of Lahiana report they had no power the day of the DEW fire, the electricity was off.

[@chair9416]

That’s because all the telephone poles went down 🙄 80+ mile per hour winds, dozens of telephone poles down, dry conditions and a town with terrible infrastructure to begin with as what they were dealing with that day

[@donnawolfe2365]

​@@chair9416Also, when the Poles began falling at 5 AM and Fires were popping up in high dangerous winds and the electricity was off, The Mayor of Maui never ever called a state of Emergency until after People borned alive and a horror of gridlock occurred and the town was leveled....then Mayor Bissen calls for help for the National Guard at 9:45 PM. Night!! Does this sound Normal to you??

[@DeVonneLane-ti3bo]

Great documentary on several levels…. What it doesn’t show is the terror and extreme emotions of the people that had to flee the fire, and the people who have lost loved ones. So for me, this documentary was just a little bit too analytical and flat.

[@nadiamccall4311]

i really thought that Paradise fires were some of the worst, but this one was so unexpected or sudden even compared to that one. Hawaii is so beautiful, I have always wanted to go there (I couldn't afford to live there from what I hear.) It LOOKS like Paradise, and it can become that again.

[@cd273_]

I left Maui the day before this fire happened and I am still in shock this happened. This is so sad😢

[@ebikeslapunta9294]

Something tells me the deathtoll could have been way higher considering the incompetence of authorities and other parties at fault.

[@punapeter]

voices in your head?

[@Lelabear]

Something tells me the death toll has been limited to 100 and does not actually reflect the number of actual casualties. For one thing, there was never any mention of the bodies pulled out of the harbor or the ones swept out to sea.

[@punapeter]

@@Lelabear "something" tells you? Yea well that's solid evidence Lelo.

[@Lelabear]

@@punapeter How about testimonies from people who were in the water and saw dead bodies floating by?

[@punapeter]

@@Lelabear How about them? Have you spoken to the Coast Guard? Do you know how many were recovered? What are you going to do with a few who driffed out to sea? There weren't hundreds in the water. There were dozens at most. Many were picked up in private boats. Oh you're not touching the firestorm?

[@rareroots]

unbelievable what was unleashed

[@punapeter]

mother nature doesn't care about humans, never has, never will. You see the Cyclone that just hit Western Austraila?

[@jacobfinder7476]

I was there. I live in Launiupoko above Lahaina. Watched it burn. We have been, for years complaining about the old electrical lines. Hawai’i Electric is to blame

[@jacobmynk5996]

So y’all just forgot about Paradise, CA? Dont trust the news…

[@kevinkillsit]

Never forget.

[@cvandletter9330]

Thanks for this great report

[@tahiasmith331]

What?! HECO said they did turn off the lines. Plus there was no power in the town since early morning. Did you miss something in your research?

[@tiffy101ification]

It isn’t the deadliest fire. We lost more people, structures etc in the Camp Fire. There are several documentaries. We just hit the 5 yr mark & we’re barely coming back. They have a long road ahead. I’d know. God bless and be with them.

[@dennisthomas679]

That is not the correct number, for either fire

[@chair9416]

California lost 85 and Maui lost at least 100?

[@teresasmith4145]

Those people knew exactly what they were doing😢 Dont worry, God knows "EXACTLY" who they are❤

[@punapeter]

god? lol

[@punapeter]

that's something jesus would say.... right?

[@teresasmith4145]

@@punapeter 📢 Jesus dudn' have to say anything cause He has got me 😲🤭🚩🤪🙋🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

[@teresasmith4145]

@@punapeter 🌬️ to smithereens

[@punapeter]

@@teresasmith4145 try English

[@Steve-ng6jf]

Thanks

[@debbied9740]

Praying that lessons are learned.. please change to less things for tourists. Heal first. Sending my love to all.

[@StephanyChills]

We, as a society, can and should take detailed notes of similar situations from around the world. The same thing happened in the Umpqua National forest a couple of yrs ago. our power company had ample warning of dangerous power lines and branches tangled or in contact with active lines. it was extremely dry and strong winds that just destroyed so much. yes, those who neglected to heed warning should be held accountable. there is more that can be done. every experience is a learning process . unfortunately something unpleasant only needs to happen once for it not to be repeated; touching a hot stove or pan for example.

[@7msjster]

Wait, if the power had been turned off, why were people detained because of powerlines being down. People can drive over poles! if the power is off. What option did people have? THIS was murder. There are real answers, but it's being ignored.

[@tahiasmith331]

Have you driven over a utility pole? Or several? The town was trapped. Each end of the town was blocked and all in between was either blocked by down utility poles or the fire racing down Lahainaluna.

[@7msjster]

All I know is that people who disobeyed the law LIVED!@@tahiasmith331

[@tamibruner3295]

That was the problem - communication breakdown. Those officers didn't know those powerl lines were dead.

[@tahiasmith331]

@@tamibruner3295 not just breakdown. None. The comms were down.

[@chair9416]

You can drive over utility poles? Yeah I don’t think so unless you have a monster truck. Nobody was detained why don’t you do some research and watch the police body cameras that shows people exiting through all the roads that were supposedly “blocked off”. Dozens of cops and firefighters lost everything they own their homes and their loved ones. Get real

[@user-er1lp7dn4i]

Brilliant editing. Top, top shelf. I am previously familiar with a good portion of the content and this was a masterpiece of creating a documentary with a great production team and an editor who is exceptional.

[@tahiasmith331]

Except showing that woman on the ground. Should edit and blur her body. Fkn insensitive to the family. It was asked to be removed when it 1st got out so to see it here is bs.

[@debrarisdon9250]

prayers

[@BB-nb9ls]

I cannot believe those ‘men’ did not stop for that woman lying on the ground. She could have had a chance. Imagine that was your Mother, Daughter, etc? Wow. Pathetic.

[@nadiamccall4311]

if it's the same video I am thinking of, that you are referring to -- this is the problem with online warriors thinking they have ANY RIGHT to judge. I recall seeing this, and people who know better (who worked there saving others) said it would be WRONG TO STOP, that it would mean the sure deaths of them and those behind them. I am so sick of people online thinking they have a clue what is going on, on the ground, based on their stupid little lives. Next time, maybe consider there is more to the story. It really will enrich your life.

[@MM5150LA]

Cowards at there finest thinking about nothing but there little selfish lives

[@TripsandFeasts1]

You need to open your mind before making such comments. You weren’t there. There might be some very genuine reasons to explain why those people did not stop, but maybe not.

[@TripsandFeasts1]

One small matter if I may please; on my three months on Maui, I have discovered that many Hawai’ians do not consider themselves Americans & their land as part of America. Something to do with the events of 1893 & the official apology (and now a law of the USA) in 1993.

[@janedoe5229]

I was in the Thomas Fire, also started by power lines in the wind. I would much rather they cut the electricity than risk the fire.

[@PuaOlena-fj9oc]

The water pumps needed electricity. Not sure what happened with generator backup. Even so, they did de-energize at 6am. I think a mixture of wind and dry conditions is dangerous no matter what. We are getting more windstorms in Lahaina as time goes on. At this point …I think every November, December we will have wind like this. There will be more fires

[@TravelSmallLiveBig]

Me too. Watched the Thomas Fire go from one side of my view to the other so quickly. Lost a friend in the Lahaina fire.

[@Kraang]

"Nothing to see here folks, please disregard all of the red flags right before your lying eyes" -The Government and Media's response to this obvious intentional burn.

[@ruralangwin]

Our heats are with you, Glass Fire Napa California 2020.

[@cindyn1853]

I've seen a few different videos that people have said that the power was actually out in some areas

[@zekeharley]

we sent 100 plus billion dollars to Ukraine, we can't send any money to Lahaina? Crazy

[@KING6TYLER.]

The lies they tell

[@Stranger_ThanFiction]

Please Pray 🙏🏻🥹🙏🏻🥹🙏🏻

[@human_in_extinction]

@@Stranger_ThanFiction A.H.

[@heathergatfield667]

Who's telling the lies?

[@KING6TYLER.]

@@heathergatfield667 the people who run earth and country this is by design if you choose to accept things that don’t make any rational sense in 2023 then go right ahead

[@rcjavier1329]

We never have power from 3am,I was awake through the whole thing

[@angelolague2723]

I feel for everyone, i know what it's like to loose everything

[@LOLKrazie]

Thanks oprah

[@codyball277]

Her Charity that she started with the Rock has donated $3600 per applicant. Granted that’s nothing compared to her wealth but it’s a more than what everyone had before.

[@halon7476]

Hawaii should secede from the US because of this

[@MrBubba311]

Incompetence or bad judgement at every level during the fire for many decades before the fire.

[@cheryl9389]

Seawater should have been pumped in to help put out the fire...Edison electric was finally held responsible for the fire called the 'Powerhouse' fire in Los Angeles County in which 30 homes were destroyed but 0 lives. were lost, many years of litigation passed before homeowners were awarded.compensation. There can never be compensation for the lives that were lost that day due to no real evacuation plan being executed...I can feel the anger at this loss of action at the momumental failure to save lives❤god bless the survivors...

[@user-wf5cp5tb8i]

There's 1000s missing nobody wants to talk about

[@debbiemikulsky25]

Fire caused D.E.W. Directed Energy Weapon Disgraceful My prayers are with everyone affected by this Deplorable act 😇🙏💜

[@Milkmans_Son]

Yeah, because criminal masterminds are so dumb they use a directed energy weapon when a match will do.

[@justmee9441]

Go to Lahaina and tell those people TO THEIR FACE what you just typed. No can ah. All mouth

[@Milkmans_Son]

@@justmee9441 Like they don't already know. Your crackpot conspiracy B.S. minimizes their pain.

[@codyball277]

As someone born and raised in Lahaina? Your conspiracy theories aren’t helpful. There’s no proof, no evidence, and ignores the facts that the issues that lead up to the fire? Have been around for decades. Your conspiracy theories don’t help anyone.

[@The1985zFinest]

Dangerous place to live

[@janedoe5229]

And wasn't the guy who was the head of emergencies out of town? And how come the Mayor didn't know what was REALLY going on?

[@Lelabear]

Good question. He is either a terrible mayor or a very good liar.

[@debbiesprout7543]

Probably just acting like he didn't know. What a great alabie to be on the news saying the road was open when he knew Lihina was burning up.

[@poppadoc5614]

April 24, 2024 This was kept so quiet and still we really have few answers.

[@biggifront]

All of our powerlines inside towns are underground and the high voltage lines have metal poles. Why isn't this the case there?

[@milanimorales2645]

There have been quite a few “worst fires” I agree Lahaina was the worst but it seems like every year there is another “worst fire”

[@reganung8997]

🙏🙏🙏😭😭😭

[@johnc7473]

Got to see it before it went up crazy tonthinknitnaint like that anymore

[@tegnando2697]

This was all setup funny how some celebrities homes wasn't touched. Remember God sees everything 🙏🏼

[@codyball277]

Because those celebrities don’t live near the center of Lahaina! 🤦🏻‍♂ Oprah lives upcountry. Helen Hunt lives in Launiopoko which has had fire issues in the past but fortunately my friends who live in Launiopoko were safe. I’m sorry. I don’t have the energy for a geography lesson.

[@tegnando2697]

@@codyball277 I'm just going by a KZbin video I seen

[@biancabeyer789]

The blocked the exits, lots of film proof. WHY?????????

[@chair9416]

There’s lots of body camera footage that directly shows the opposite. Why don’t you do some research there was dozens of cops and firefighters that lost everything they own, their houses and their loved ones. The roadblocks were preventing people from going into the town towards the fire. Get real

[@soberserotonin1850]

I think the justification was that smoke made driving on the highway very dangerous, but that was their only escape route, if I understand correctly. So it makes no sense. They should have let people take the risk. Put up signs saying “drive carefully-smoke ahead” or something, but don’t block the only exit. It feels like this was all done on purpose. It was either legendary neglect of duty from a long list of government officials and other key players, or it was an orchestrated mass murder for some reason. So developers could get rich quick by buying all the burnt land for cheap and renting it out at exorbitant prices to corporations to build tourist attractions? So elitists and globalists could point to the incident and erroneously blame it on global warming and climate change to get more people to support their preferred policies, all to consolidate power and grow even richer? Or some other reason, idk.

[@MissKatyAllison]

Aloha to all my Maui family! I wanted to wish you, your families, your communities & all of Maui a Belated Mele Kalikimaka (Merry Christmas)!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️ How’re y’all doing? How’s things amongst the community? How many are still missing or unaccounted for? How can I help you or anyone there, for that matter? Please don’t hesitate to reach out!! ♥️ I continue to pray for Maui to be enveloped in everlasting love, strength & hope. 🌈 I pray the New Year in 2024 brings each and everyone of y’all bountiful blessings.

[@codyball277]

At this point…. We all know who is or isn’t among us. Continue to donate to reputable charities. There is discontent amongst locals as to what is the best for Lahaina. People need to provide for their families but at the same time? There are so many people struggling to find long-term living arrangements. Instagram is better for up to date info about the situation.

[@wtfa2910]

Dora she is to blame for all of this

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

thats true.....plus, Maui county, either have a bid process for maintenance of dry brush to clear OR tell your DAGS crews stop eating manapua and GET TO WORK!!!! Oahu here maybe politically screwy at times......BUT, those that win bids (HTM....SD...etc) are OUT THERE CLEARING grounds!!!! either that OR the state has inmates clearing the lands.....

[@empressashley4808]

who's Dora?

[@Waynes-xt9gr]

@@empressashley4808Hurricane Dora was a hurricane in the Pacific ocean....the hurricane sustained its strength thruout the trek from California to Hawaii. NWS gave some advisories about her path. But as she moved closer to the islands, no weather alerts were issued except for possible winds. Dora did come close to our islands because during the hours when she was "brushing" Maui, here on Oahu, the winds were pretty gusty....but still no alerts. Also, the NWS has "missing" data from the time when high winds hit Lahaina.

[@leunam3434]

It’s sad nobody important is outraged. It’s the biggest outdoor crematorium in America.

[@punapeter]

yea well people in texas cry about the border, Minnesota snow/ice pileups on the freeway. Calif has fires SEASON every year. Everywhere has weather, no escaping it.

[@Jcrescent1]

I don't buy their reasons for not using their sirens as most modern systems also double as public address systems that can send correct information to the public. Now if these were so old that they weren't capable of doing this, then that is another discussion.

[@labSeta]

That blue car at 1:12

[@shitboxcivic5661]

The ptsd is real? The fire fighters were parked letting it burn. Or did we forget the videos from the residents there

[@rs0676]

Sometimes it’s just a perfect storm.. or to others, some wild conspiracy.

[@maps3321]

And still no answer of WHERE are all the children?

[@chair9416]

If there were children missing don’t you think you’d be hearing from their parents all over social media and the news? There are no children missing there’s four people that are on accounted for. The schools were shut down the day before due to the winds lines and telephone poles going down. Not everything‘s a conspiracy

[@dimereseininrobbyravouvou2855]

Little Prince Milo and his brother and their mother survived by ditching their vehicle and diving to the Lahaina harbour sea Yep watched same time when they posted

[@milanimorales2645]

Sounds like the firefighters kept getting called out to a problem that Hawaiian Electric refused to troubleshoot.

[@bprice757]

Bezos,musk,Zuckerberg and all the others could totally afford to help those people I'm really surprised they haven't I no it's not there job but man if I was any of those people I'd be broke from helping by now !!! It's just shocking that theres still that little help for those people.

[@kayleighgroenendal8473]

Humans are selfish. Being rich means you're less empathetic and more Anti-social on average. 1% of the gen pop is a psychopath. 10% of lawyers, doctors, CEOs are psychopathic. But it's gotta be like 60% of billionaires are psychopathic.

[@punapeter]

Elon or Bill could end WORLD HUNGER with an Enter click on a keyboard, or by just telling their people to cut a check. $20B is all it would take to END WORLD HUNGER. But you don't see them doing that. They prefer GREEDOM

[@heathergatfield667]

I couldn't agree with you more. I wish I had that kind of money. I would love to be able to help people like this out. As well as all the people who were effected by fire in BC Canada. A million or 2 would help these people so very much. And it's just a drop in the bucket for these guys that have all that money. It's so upsetting that there's people who are capable of doing so much. And they don't nor do they seem to care

[@ZENETTI18S]

Where are the 1%ers of the world. I agree it's not their responsibility but they have the means to help a great deal in some way.

[@punapeter]

@@ZENETTI18S If it's not profitable they aren't interested. Their philanthropy is just a tax write off scheme to pay less tax, or none. Like the Clintons taking donations to their "foundation" money laundering operation. They all have them. Except for Jill

[@andrewwhite9739]

Interviewing the fire dept? Interesting choice. You should interview the people who were actually there. I've listened to the 911 calls and watched the video of the chaos. The first responders failed the people they swore to protect. Now developers are trying to steal their property. Talk about that.

[@chair9416]

Have you watched the body cameras where police are rescuing dozens and dozens of people 🙄 more than 20 firefighters and at least a dozen police officers lost everything they have their houses and their loved ones.. dozens of telephone poles down, 80 mph winds, dry conditions and a town with terrible infrastructure to begin with as what they were dealing with that day.

[@cindyn1853]

At minute 12 48 blue car white car and other van looks fine

[@ellenbryn]

it's heartbreaking to make any suggestions when the worst has already happened, and so many people have died. but I will offer the tale of two Californias: the one up north that has above ground powerlines and enormous fires and loss of life, and the coast from Orange County to San Diego boxed in between dry brush hills and the ocean, where the powerlines are put below ground due to high Santa Ana winds and extreme fire danger outweighing the risk of earthquakes snapping underground infrastructure - which is bad, but still not as deadly and widespread as a firestorm. and Maui, at least, isn't likely to have earthquakes strong enough to damage underground lines, although the big island might. The question is money. I hope you can win some of your lawsuits against the power company and force them to move their lines underground. there are other reasons for fires to start when the fire, danger is high, but that should not be at one of them.

[@MsLeilam]

There are answers. Nature has a powerful way of defending itself. If you let it sort itself out, it will come back to you. Rebuilding is not the answer except in some specific homes or buildings. There is something going on there and we have to figure out what it is. There are answers. Once we find them, the land will come back to life.

[@carolinacracker8849]

Follow the money , find the cancer

[@PuaOlena-fj9oc]

The wind storms are increasing in frequency and amount of time it lasts. I’m seriously considering leaving

[@punapeter]

@@PuaOlena-fj9oc where, WINDWARD side?

[@sharkydakine1853]

Well, now all of the rain has put Lahaina remnants in the ocean… another tragedy!

[@punapeter]

@@sharkydakine1853 not without a bulldozer. Lahainatown is flat not a hill.

[@Dovietail]

Utilities must be not-for-profit.They are public SERVANTS and must not be expense-cutting profit opportunities.

[@fundeck24]

💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

[@douglasretzer5462]

This is a bunch of lies!!!

[@cristintylervadenlovliv7121]

K don’t forget your thinking caps

[@cristintylervadenlovliv7121]

With fire come s air pollination and new growth stronger and better than ever before 24 Kim I foregive you tune in I miss you

[@user-wf5cp5tb8i]

WE have seen this sort of stuff before When they locked people in church building s

[@kayleighgroenendal8473]

I thought there was some actuall security cam footage of that powerline sparking.... I saw what looked like Ring Cam footage pointing out thru the gate or door outside of the place where the fire started. It might not have been verified...but now im curious if it was even really the footage or just some tiktok clout grab

[@punapeter]

I saw that video, yea there was the transformer exploding.

[@user-er1lp7dn4i]

There is.

[@ashleygarza1642]

That footage was from the fire in Kula which was a separate fire on the other side of the island that same day.

[@punapeter]

10:45 it looks like a lava flow coming down the hill. When lava flows it covers everything like in Lelani. I live in Lahaina in 78', my son was almost born there. In 2000 we get second place in the Holloween Party under da Banyan. Gonna miss that partytme over there. What I've known since 74' is that there are dry sides and wet sides of each island. There are floodplains and cliffs. Deserts and coastlines. So.... When you pick a location to live be smart. Dry side ok for beach, play the day, no live there. I know I did. Get stuck on the road to Lahaina cuz fire, all the time. DRY SIDE Bra. Like Waikaloa, fire every year. No live in Waikaloa Village...duh. Someday, samething, bet. I❤BI mo betta. Wet side da bes. Oahu? LOL L.A. in da Pacific.

[@user-jd4wk2lk7m]

I hope the best lawyers come forward and save these people!!!

[@punapeter]

ChatGBT

[@ForestNinjaZero]

Lawyer: "No, we can't do nothing for them..." 😇

[@punapeter]

@@ForestNinjaZero who they gonna sue GOD? he made the wind and fire.

[@JK-br1mu]

Uhoh, there were a lot of women at the local Fire Dept....

[@andrewoneil9876]

European settlers killed 56 million indigenous people over about 100 years in South, Central and North America during the creation of this country. Thinking that the government is not capable to willingly seize the land they want is crazy.

[@punapeter]

why does the U$ gov. want Lahaina for again genius?

[@stanbarrington]

He makes a good point@@punapeter

[@punapeter]

@@stanbarrington really? what point was that. You even ever been there?

[@heathergatfield667]

​@@stanbarrington@punpeter is a jerk. I've been reading their comments. Too small minded to understand what you are trying to say. And an obvious chip on their shoulders. People don't need rude comments...they need help & empathetic people

[@ritahernandez7523]

Yes they will pass the buck❤😢😢

[@johnfoge1742]

PLANNED.

[@beaka63]

"...sort of like The Hunger Games." What?

[@805j3rklop3z]

Of couse they want to sue

[@lynnybee888]

Sure are a lotta fires lately....... Greece, people were running to the sea to escape the flames, Tenerife, the Canary Islands, same thing. Maui, where are those children anyway? hhhhmmmmm .

[@illuminaughty2929]

Wat kine dat.... even dah Hoales are getting shafted.

[@carljackson5259]

What’s happening is all them bodies what are arguing over it should be paying up about all them. People have lost everything open them open and rebuild and then have the big enquiry where that film was where it was first started. I would investigate this straight away that be the first point you go up go look at the wood go look at the infrastructure if it were deep enough, why did it fall down that’s poor maintenance to me if it fell down look at the film I will look at where it started, the film should show you how bad the wood was was it Paul or was it rotted and it just collapsed the evidence will be still there. Don’t think about it just do it for someone covers it up

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Lets not forget how laser-focused Biden is on the rebuilding efforts.