The Battle of May Island | Down the Rabbit Hole

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Fredrik Knudsen

Fredrik Knudsen

3 жыл бұрын

In the early 1900s, an experiment with submarine technology precipitates one of the most absurd events in naval history.
Patreon: / fredrikknudsen
Twitter: / fredintheknud
Music by Ryan Probert: / probecomposer
Graphics and Animation by Christopher "Arcaxon" Malouin-Monjaraz: / arcaxon
Violin by Anna Olsson: / annaolssonmusic
Saxophone by Naomi Sullivan: / naomisullivan9
Vocals by Rachel Nicholas: / _rachnicholas
Illustrations by DerEineSchwarzeRabe: / d_e_s_r

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@therealdoc
@therealdoc 3 жыл бұрын
"It surely can't get any worse." "Surely it can't get ANY worse." "SURELY, IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE." "ARE YOU SERIOUS?!"
@Narusasu98
@Narusasu98 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect summary
@SMAXZO
@SMAXZO 3 жыл бұрын
"What's the worse that could-" *after the massive pileup* "You just had to say it..."
@bastiangalaz4580
@bastiangalaz4580 3 жыл бұрын
What a shitfest
@jettythesunfish
@jettythesunfish 3 жыл бұрын
Murphy's Law, my friend.
@johnalbert7526
@johnalbert7526 3 жыл бұрын
Holy clusterfuck that I had never even heard of before ! It was like watching 10 episodes of the Three Stooges all at once.
@TheMaskedArcanum
@TheMaskedArcanum 3 жыл бұрын
K22: "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?" The Inflexible: Read ✓
@facepalm5134
@facepalm5134 3 жыл бұрын
I call this "The very Inflexible"
@RamzaBeowulf
@RamzaBeowulf 3 жыл бұрын
Operation: Tiger
@treehann
@treehann 3 жыл бұрын
Back then “hell” was a much harsher swear, too
@dante666jt
@dante666jt 3 жыл бұрын
Vibin
@LockeRobsta
@LockeRobsta 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone's got that friend.
@thomasjackson4059
@thomasjackson4059 Жыл бұрын
My great grandfather died in this tragedy. He was on k-17. His name was Thomas Jackson and his diary is in the Portsmouth naval museum. The part of the diary I have is mostly about his time in the Dardenelles. My grandfather, also called Thomas Jackson served in the navy (HMS Edinburgh WW2) and never found out what happened to his father apart from he died. Just wanted to say thank you for sharing this.
@dylanogg347
@dylanogg347 Жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to you and your family mate. I hope this video gave you some comfort.
@silentotaku8
@silentotaku8 Жыл бұрын
I thank you and your family for their service and sacrifices. Cheers!
@thomasjackson4059
@thomasjackson4059 Жыл бұрын
@@silentotaku8 I thank you but I have never served. I’m proud to come from a family that served their country for generations and it’s them and countless others that deserve our thanks.
@silentotaku8
@silentotaku8 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasjackson4059 I respect your modesty friend! I raise a mug in your honor and wish you a wonderful rest of the year, skål! (Cheers!)
@dylanogg347
@dylanogg347 Жыл бұрын
@@silentotaku8 Cheers all round.
@dumbino7745
@dumbino7745 Жыл бұрын
for those wondering why there aren't any new uploads, don't worry he's working on a video about EVE Online that's gonna be over five hours, which is why its taking so long to make. seeing how an hour long vid about an officially documented event like this one took him about 4 months to make, a five hour long one about an ongoing subject with a bunch of vague/untrustworthy info taking over a year is to be expected.
@anujpartihar
@anujpartihar Жыл бұрын
Oh sweet! Looking forward to it.
@NellyLikesPirates
@NellyLikesPirates Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@clfleishman
@clfleishman Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Oubliettine
@Oubliettine Жыл бұрын
I’ve never been so excited for a KZbin comeback. The Eve online rabbit hole will definitely take you on through the looking glass.
@fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName
@fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName Жыл бұрын
Excellent. I was worried.
@SivakAurak
@SivakAurak 3 жыл бұрын
"Desperately, he gave the order to turn to starboard..." Me, having watched Cost of Concordia: "I know where this is headed"
@theR1ch
@theR1ch 3 жыл бұрын
Vada a bordo, cazzo!
@ivannintendo
@ivannintendo 3 жыл бұрын
I see my fellow culturemen
@murpium
@murpium 3 жыл бұрын
“He cocks up at the worst possible moment”
@jimraynor9839
@jimraynor9839 3 жыл бұрын
"Wait, I've seen this trick before!"
@TaurusOxford
@TaurusOxford 3 жыл бұрын
No Schetinos on board these boats/subs, thank God.
@pawesomepal7827
@pawesomepal7827 3 жыл бұрын
I've never been more stressed watching ovals narrowly miss each other.
@Stray7
@Stray7 3 жыл бұрын
And, horribly, NOT missing each other...
@paulgaither
@paulgaither 3 жыл бұрын
Watch Historia Civilis, and you can get emotionality attached to occasionally spinning squares and rectangles.
@DnBastard
@DnBastard 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl I almost cried watching the ovals plough straight through the dots
@celery8059
@celery8059 3 жыл бұрын
RIGHT IM SWEATING
@That_One_Xatu
@That_One_Xatu 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe 104 dots were killed by THEIR OWN FLEET of ovals. Holy shit. I hope someone got fired for that blunder.
@notdoneyet1361
@notdoneyet1361 Жыл бұрын
The description of K6 finding no survivors in the water after K4 broke in half and sunk gave me chills. Imagine being the captain of K6, still reeling from the crash and processing what just happened, suddenly realizing that the whole crew is dead and he is responsible.
@BigPuddin
@BigPuddin Жыл бұрын
It wasn't even his fault, but I imagine he had an awful case of survivor's guilt after that and blamed himself for the accident. What an awful clusterfuck.
@Nero_Karel
@Nero_Karel Жыл бұрын
@@BigPuddin I dunno about that - obviously the poor visibility relieves him to some degree, but the lights on a ship are colour-coded by direction specifically so something like this usually wouldn't happen to a competent captain
@stevemc01
@stevemc01 8 ай бұрын
Remember that the lights were pretty scheisse to begin with, being dim and shuttered, so maybe it took him a bit of time to realize what light it was. @@Nero_Karel
@drrisen-9442
@drrisen-9442 8 ай бұрын
@@stevemc01Seconding this. The design of the lights was extremely subpar for emergencies due to their directional nature. This was essentially a Swiss cheese model disaster, too many holes lined up.
@bradenhagen7977
@bradenhagen7977 8 ай бұрын
@@Nero_Karel they were also shuttered so you would be able to see it from the impact angle.
@JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal
@JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal 9 ай бұрын
Its been 2 years since fredrik went insane studying eve online.
@RaffieFaffie
@RaffieFaffie 7 ай бұрын
wut
@calzoneyyy
@calzoneyyy 7 ай бұрын
he’s finally free from it
@League-of-uninstall
@League-of-uninstall Ай бұрын
I haven't watched it yet but I intend to it's just a fucking beefy video
@Ana_Ng
@Ana_Ng 3 жыл бұрын
it took me a while to realise this wasn't a bunch of backstory leading up to the battle of may island, this WAS the battle
@FoshuV
@FoshuV 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah same XD Probably why the monument puts the biggest quotation marks around the word Battle.
@riftvallance2087
@riftvallance2087 3 жыл бұрын
I was kind of expecting the germans to show up during the mess and just kill everybody.
@VolkColopatrion
@VolkColopatrion 3 жыл бұрын
"Battle"
@DrCruel
@DrCruel 3 жыл бұрын
The British Navy decisively battled with the Stupidity Empire. Stupidity won.
@naiknaik8812
@naiknaik8812 3 жыл бұрын
Thought therebwas gonna be redemption but ended just depressed
@cultistsash
@cultistsash 3 жыл бұрын
"Want to hear about some KZbinrs?" "Sure Fred." "Want to hear about the Deep Blue AI?" "Sure Fred." "Want to hear about the Battle of May Island?" "Anything goes, Fred."
@sneezebiscuits7239
@sneezebiscuits7239 3 жыл бұрын
"Yes, chef." "Yes, chef."
@NotAGoodUsername360
@NotAGoodUsername360 3 жыл бұрын
Shitshow of any kind: **exists** Fredrik: It's free real estate
@IceFire1800
@IceFire1800 3 жыл бұрын
Fred, the master of diverse topics
@JoelCarli
@JoelCarli 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh by the way, I play hurdy gurdy"
@ScrawnyTreeDemon
@ScrawnyTreeDemon 3 жыл бұрын
We love a well-learned king~
@gregotox
@gregotox Жыл бұрын
I love it when people with last names like "Fisher" end up with titles like "Sea lord".
@buggibii
@buggibii Жыл бұрын
"He believed that if a ship could move and shoot fast enough, it wouldn't need defense." manses was using video game logic.
@XXXTENTAClON227
@XXXTENTAClON227 Жыл бұрын
Bro went for the glass cannon build
@helenhomunculus5044
@helenhomunculus5044 Жыл бұрын
​@@XXXTENTAClON227 da shin akuma ship
@Narishiva
@Narishiva 3 жыл бұрын
"A man aboard a ship who had seen M2 that morning casually asked if it was normal for submarines to dive backwards. He was told that it was not." Jesus Christ.
@DxBlack
@DxBlack 3 жыл бұрын
This WWI Bruh moment brought to you by the letter K.
@Aaron-hf5or
@Aaron-hf5or 3 жыл бұрын
That’s one of the best parts of the whole movie.
@MCdouchbag
@MCdouchbag 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aaron-hf5or Genuine question, no secondary meaning behind it: are you Romanian?
@jamessales9047
@jamessales9047 Ай бұрын
@@MCdouchbagcount
@blockrocka225
@blockrocka225 3 жыл бұрын
This is the naval equivalent of when you’re carrying a load of loose laundry and you drop a sock but when you bend down to pick it up three more articles fall and so on and so on until you’re forced to just drop the lot and throw everything back together again. Except people died.
@skeetsmcgrew3282
@skeetsmcgrew3282 3 жыл бұрын
You dont know my laundry room. RIP Horatio from apartment 3C, you will be missed
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
"Except people died." Nearly as many as at the Pentagon in the September 11th attacks at that. (102 deaths in the May Island incident, 125 at the Pentagon in the September 11th attacks)
@hairyheartsmith8513
@hairyheartsmith8513 3 жыл бұрын
Life hack #833: Put a towel on top of the dryer and put laundry on top of that. Pick the towel up by it's corners. Button up shirts can work too.
@zerwif
@zerwif 3 жыл бұрын
Now the sock needs a giant gun or a plane.
@spaceyote7174
@spaceyote7174 Жыл бұрын
What's wild to me is that despite how much ocean the submarines could have covered and how they all kept changing course, their paths *still* kept intersecting perfectly by sheer chance
@masonaleman
@masonaleman 10 ай бұрын
That has to be some of the worst luck in the history of man.
@ScottMaxwell_UK
@ScottMaxwell_UK Жыл бұрын
I was on the dive team you mentioned at the start who discovered the final resting place of the wrecks after the Battle of May Island. From my back porch I can see the site from here. This was an engineering disaster, not a naval one. "Too many damn holes", as one account goes. Worth noting as you mention in the last few minutes - nuclear powered submarines, including the V-boats where I served in the Royal Navy, are also steam powered. They just don't need coal. Right idea, wrong time. Respect to those who served upon these widow makers.
@ricya1982
@ricya1982 Жыл бұрын
This is why I always come back to vids I watch, even years later. Sometimes, the people involved, who are unknown or not popular, show up and share some extra/specific info. I LOVE knowing slightly more than others on various things. ^_^
@EmoLozer500
@EmoLozer500 Жыл бұрын
The engineering wouldn't have been so disastrous if not for naval leaders demanding these ships be created to their exact specifications. Seemingly misunderstanding how these ships would work in practice, and regardless of the concerns many engineers raised. This is not how to spark competent innovation. Often they would simply replace concenered engineers with others who would do it, and were deterred from asking questions. Essentially telling engineers to just get it done, and figure it out somehow. They made these decisions without any understanding of how these ideas would be implemented, or their functionality at sea. Due to the nature of the war, wanting to gain an advantage quickly. These projects were rushed aswell, to a point where serious design flaws were not noticed until it was far too late. The ones that were noticed only had superficial fixes. They did not keep many well working ships from previous years British crews knew how to navigate well as back ups, preferring to scrap them in order to start a new. The technicalities weren't being considered heavily enough by naval leaders, and they were too stubborn to see how unreasonable their demands actually were. The navy also disregarded opinions of skilled sailors telling them these ships were unmanageable, and there were too many issues with the limitations of communication technology at that time. I'm not saying the engineering isn't at fault, but the navy also played a key role in how this tragedy came about. They are both responsible for what happened to those ships, and the crews aboard them. This was a disastrous blunder by the navy as naval leaders continuously made poor, ill informed decisions. Stuck by them despite the obvious, and severe problems. Then once something truly horrifying happened, costing the lives of many. They tried to cover it up rather than take any accountability, or confront the families of those who needlessly died. Their actions were not innocent in this. The navy had many many opportunities to prevent such an incident, but they opted to ignore them. Utterly cruel, and embarrassing behavior.
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris Жыл бұрын
These subs weren't running on coal, they were running on heavy fuel oil. The problem was the preheaters needed to make it a liquid before it could be used. And the problems here weren't anything to do with engineering, they were to do with violations of proper procedure and driving a squadron of large vessels into an approaching fleet without any idea if it knew they were coming. Without that, this was a minor collision with two casualties.
@NeODeLeuX
@NeODeLeuX Жыл бұрын
@@EmoLozer500 ^This You can't fault an engineer if he's forced to design something against their judgement because someone higher on the command chain forced them to do so. As a Geological Engineer, the times I've heard stories of colleagues who had to leave good paying jobs in the Geotechnical/Civil engineering field because the one putting the cash tried to force them to build something against regulations/plain proven science facts that would go against the structure integrity and therefore the lives of the people using such structure is too damn high to not be concerning. Most of the times is exactly as you said, first you raise the issue to your boss and then they either ask for other options that can cut corners while still being legally "safe enough" or they just straight up force you to retire and then find someone willing to do the job/dirty their hands for a quick buck. It's actually sickening how some people play with other people's safety/lives just to save some money because they made a bad investment/didn't care from the start.
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris 8 ай бұрын
@@chonchjohnch No, what's being said is that the "steam" part isn't the problem, it's that the power source was boilers burning heavy fuel oil. That was what caused all the issues.
@The_Andyman
@The_Andyman 3 жыл бұрын
The whole disaster is just one big, “but wait, it gets worse!”
@TheGreenKnight500
@TheGreenKnight500 3 жыл бұрын
It's like a massive highway pileup but in slow motion and more lives at stake.
@Benhardyfan
@Benhardyfan 3 жыл бұрын
For real. Two submarines sinking with no survivors, even way after the battle. This is fucked
@Titanium
@Titanium 3 жыл бұрын
I felt a bit of relief every time those animations showed the subs and ships narrowly missing each other... just for it to zoom back out and show MORE subs and ships racing directly towards each other. And it just kept happening.
@javsandarts
@javsandarts 3 жыл бұрын
The first part is a big Fisher: But what if I do anywaaaay?
@Calvin_Coolage
@Calvin_Coolage 3 жыл бұрын
At least the Kamchatka wasn't present.
@jonathanwerner3664
@jonathanwerner3664 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being cold in the water, stunned by the shock of the accident. The relief from seeing friendly ships, only to be sucked into propeller of your countrymen's ships. What a brutal way to go
@Narusasu98
@Narusasu98 3 жыл бұрын
This was truly atrocious to hear
@VickMcbread
@VickMcbread 3 жыл бұрын
fuuuuk dude
@Siddingsby
@Siddingsby 3 жыл бұрын
During WW2, on more than one occasion, Allied ships not only ran over friendly sailors but also dropped depth charges into the water with them to try and sink enemy submarines.
@Wildstar40
@Wildstar40 3 жыл бұрын
And since the Admiralty decided to bury this incident and keep it a secret tells me they lied to the families of those who died in this incident about how they died. That's a lot of lying and that lying successfully added another fucked up kink in this story. Sorry for swearing but seriously there are no other words.
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wildstar40 The death reports given to families in the two World Wars very rarely reflected what actually happened to their loved ones. It was seen as being kinder to report that they died quickly and doing something brave. See for example the letters scene in _Memphis Belle_ . All of those letters are real.
@junkbotbionicle6217
@junkbotbionicle6217 Жыл бұрын
It's a real shame this didn't perform as well as his videos about lolcows or videogame scams. I loved the visuals, and his enthusiasm about this event really sells it.
@aydon1276
@aydon1276 Жыл бұрын
Because videos about lolcows are better. Other people have covered this better and in less time
@junkbotbionicle6217
@junkbotbionicle6217 Жыл бұрын
@@aydon1276 why are they better?
@Kyle_Riel
@Kyle_Riel Жыл бұрын
Not nearly as many people want to hear about awful horrible war attrocities
@hurt6145
@hurt6145 Жыл бұрын
@@aydon1276 'They aren't
@GittingGud1
@GittingGud1 10 ай бұрын
@@aydon1276 Thanks for your highly subjective opinion.
@helmaschine1885
@helmaschine1885 2 жыл бұрын
44:45 this to me has to be the worst part. One of the last ships barging through helpless overboard men and lifeboats, sucking some into its propellers. All because of bad visibility and communication. Tragic and absolutely horrific
@isaacjones6323
@isaacjones6323 3 жыл бұрын
5 minutes in: oh this seems interesting 20 minutes in: haha this is gonna be wild 35 minutes in: damn this is going terribly 45 minutes in: holy shit this is hell god has abandoned us
@thesaltyspoon7483
@thesaltyspoon7483 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@knightsoftarot6794
@knightsoftarot6794 3 жыл бұрын
That's the magic of Fredrik Knudsen for ya
@michaelcarmona7838
@michaelcarmona7838 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a survivor of this massacre. You’ve just gone through one of the most insane and hellish experiences of your life, witnessing your crew die around you, only to be told that you can never talk about it. And not only that, but you then have to watch silently for years as these machines which you know are faulty and dangerous are casually used to kill more of your fellow sailors just because the high command doesn’t want to admit it made a mistake.
@thehermit8618
@thehermit8618 3 жыл бұрын
They say one of the few things that can match the size of human stupidity is human arrogance
@emmettbattle5728
@emmettbattle5728 3 жыл бұрын
unimaginable and eternal horror, back then you had no resources to heal from that
@AchedSphinx
@AchedSphinx 3 жыл бұрын
the nine survivors saw their crew mates get disintegrated into pools of bloody water. i think i'd go crazy after seeing something like that.
@nesano4735
@nesano4735 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like modern-day companies.
@Titanium
@Titanium 3 жыл бұрын
And what do they do with these deathtraps instead of dismantling them immediately? They slap ridiculous modifications on them and continue their use. "Put a big fuckin gun on it" *sinks, entire crew dies* "Now put a plane on it." *sinks, entire crew dies*
@ThatSkiFreak
@ThatSkiFreak 10 ай бұрын
with names like "the fearless" and "the inflexible" this really sounds like some kind of ancient myth
@teenybun5249
@teenybun5249 10 ай бұрын
I never knew how important the Navaho Code Talkers where until watching this and seeing how hard communication really was. Speed and making sure your enemy couldn't understand you must have been a nightmare.
@torchthe62nd63
@torchthe62nd63 3 жыл бұрын
I have said "Are you FUCKING kidding me!" at least 16 times and I'm only like, halfway in. Holy shit what a trainwreck. I feel absolutely horrible for everyone who lost their lives in this disaster.
@artbk
@artbk 3 жыл бұрын
What were your total?
@maruku4445
@maruku4445 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Trains can't go in water. Only ships and subs do. More like a shipwreck.
@bigbeefscorcho
@bigbeefscorcho 3 жыл бұрын
I just keep saying “oh god no, oh god NO”
@TheAceLewis
@TheAceLewis 3 жыл бұрын
“Dude what the fuck?” Was mine.
@kodikrumrey9060
@kodikrumrey9060 3 жыл бұрын
How many times can a ship decide to steer port side to evade collision. Only to be met by chaos.
@DavidBrocekArt
@DavidBrocekArt 3 жыл бұрын
German soldier: "Look, British Navy, let's attack them!" German Captain: "Let's just wait a little bit to see what happens..."
@dante666jt
@dante666jt 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Royal Navy my ass
@HUNTERCOPELR
@HUNTERCOPELR 3 жыл бұрын
Yes lol Royal Navy my ass! 👌🏻
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien 3 жыл бұрын
@@dante666jt yeah not like Britain was known for clapping every other country with its navy
@riftvallance2087
@riftvallance2087 3 жыл бұрын
I'm picturing in my head the captain saying "no no just wait this is gonna be good " But in a silly German voice.
@villainx91
@villainx91 3 жыл бұрын
What if they didnt notice and just heard a ton of breaking and lights and their just like "you hear that?"
@MoonDreamofA
@MoonDreamofA Жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever felt sick when hearing how personnel -of any disaster- died. I think it feels so awful because of just how much of a perfect storm everything was. Imagine being on one of the boats that sailed through the survivors, and learning later that you mowed through a bunch of your own comrades. I almost hope they never learned of what happened since they didn't mean to harm anyone.
@trash-heap3989
@trash-heap3989 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely "loved" this, the research, script, animation and music all work so well together bringing us a haunting history dive into a disaster of arrogance, poor design, incompetence, communication problems, and a little bit of bad luck, all spilling into a cauldron of terrible weather conditions to bring about one the worst disasters in naval history. Great work! Truly amazing work to everyone involved.
@zeriel9148
@zeriel9148 8 ай бұрын
I think the main takeaway I get from this is that night-time naval missions before radar were fucking suicidal. Even just going back and forth in the mist could result in death with no ability to know where other ships were. Something that just would never happen after this era.
@sugarkane1571
@sugarkane1571 7 ай бұрын
My other takeaway from this is that most suffering of workers/soldiers come from the disconnected hubris of upper management. The unfortunate fact of war is that human lives are a resource to use and take away, but these admirals are so far removed from the war that they gamble away lives like a playboy just for the sake of proving they’re right. I’m not a war buff, but I think it’s also a huge mentality of the Great War, just throwing people at a barbed wall like a subtraction game, while the aristocrats of countries lie in comfort since “die” is a 3 letter word.
@do3807
@do3807 3 жыл бұрын
Some sailor: "Is it normal for submarines to dive backwards?" The superiors: "Ah, shit..." Edit, because it's more than just yucks: The M2 was found sunken, with the hangar doors open, and the plane inside. It's assumed the doors were opened too soon after the vessel surfaced, and were possibly jammed. So then water flooded in on the back end, and weighed it down so much, that it looked like it was just diving backwards. The men inside probably lasted long enough to panic, but not long enough to call it in, let alone fix it, or get out.
@beytullahberk3632
@beytullahberk3632 3 жыл бұрын
lmaoo i feel so bad for laughing at that part
@nikai_vil3893
@nikai_vil3893 3 жыл бұрын
that was the worse death, they all suffocated, i wonder who long they lasted and what happend on that sub.
@Tinlion09
@Tinlion09 3 жыл бұрын
imagine supervising the M1's dive test. "Sir, they're supposed to _come back up_ at some point, right?"
@ToyokaX
@ToyokaX 3 жыл бұрын
I don't quite understand what he meant by "dive backwards". As in, it moved backwards? Is that really serious? I figured that most subs usually stay upright or w/e when diving. I don't understand how diving backwards would cause issues, can someone explain?
@Tinlion09
@Tinlion09 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToyokaX I think you actually stated the problem yourself there. I'm not an expert, but as far as I know, submarines are generally _supposed_ to submerge evenly. If the front or back goes down first, then that might indicate a serious issue with the ballast.
@pleasedontwastefood
@pleasedontwastefood 3 жыл бұрын
"Ooof that was a close near-collision, I'm glad those guys made it through." Fredrik Knudsen: "But wait; there's more!"
@EmmanQuinones5234
@EmmanQuinones5234 3 жыл бұрын
Your pfp describes the whole video perfectly. *Pain.* Especially when K6 bisected K4. That was just....yeah...
@docdave15
@docdave15 3 жыл бұрын
Watchers: F**K!
@ekathe85
@ekathe85 3 жыл бұрын
"But this would not last"
@BaldingClamydia
@BaldingClamydia 6 ай бұрын
Give your music editor a raise. They're doing a great job! All of the ambient sounds and the way the music speeds up as the tension increases show someone who really knows what they're doing :D
@mainman5390
@mainman5390 8 ай бұрын
LETS GO FOR THE THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY FREDRICK LESS GOOOOO🥳🎉🎉
@TheLiosoul
@TheLiosoul 3 жыл бұрын
Germany: "Great job sinking an entire fleet on your own!" U-boats: "Huh?"
@michaelkolano8686
@michaelkolano8686 3 жыл бұрын
Uh.. yeah! It was a one in a million shot, but we me managed to pull it off!
@Bartnuschler
@Bartnuschler 3 жыл бұрын
"Smashing the Periscope with a hammer" What a wild time to be alive
@erikrungemadsen2081
@erikrungemadsen2081 3 жыл бұрын
Early air combat was pilots throwing bricks at each others propellers, and firing pistols and sawed of shootguns at each other.
@8bitorgy
@8bitorgy 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the most ironic thing you can say about WW1.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 3 жыл бұрын
It's such an absurdly British tactic, too. "I say old chap, submarines are unsporting!"
@foof811
@foof811 3 жыл бұрын
It was like Submarine Polo
@aggrogator4045
@aggrogator4045 3 жыл бұрын
WW1 truly was a GREAT War 😎
@peppermorrison
@peppermorrison Жыл бұрын
Never have I wailed "NO" so repeatedly
@Questionable_Content
@Questionable_Content 3 жыл бұрын
Some fisherman: "So is it normal for submarines to dive backwards?" The royal navy: "WHAT⁉️"
@JustKrin
@JustKrin 3 жыл бұрын
"Did you say *BACKWARDS* ??!!"
@ShroudedWolf51
@ShroudedWolf51 3 жыл бұрын
Well... British. So, "....I beg your pardon?"
@collinwood6573
@collinwood6573 3 жыл бұрын
"well, normally submarines... wait.. did you say backwards!?"
@speedenforcer918
@speedenforcer918 3 жыл бұрын
(spits out their tea)
@abysmal-mourning
@abysmal-mourning 3 жыл бұрын
I would’ve laughed harder at the “is it usual for submarines to dive backwards?” if 60 men hadn’t died
@t.y2974
@t.y2974 3 жыл бұрын
With the buildup and the horror of the previous shit, I felt a chill of terror and horrific realization when he said that
@johnr797
@johnr797 3 жыл бұрын
Harder?
@Chopstewie
@Chopstewie 3 жыл бұрын
God, 60 lives just burnt away for the sake of avoiding embarrassment.
@Intestine_Ballin-ism
@Intestine_Ballin-ism 3 жыл бұрын
NIGHT AND LOVE
@abysmal-mourning
@abysmal-mourning 3 жыл бұрын
@@Intestine_Ballin-ism YES!! you have a great taste in music my good sir
@alexstransky8143
@alexstransky8143 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but now I want Fredrik Knudsen to just voice more war documentaries just cause his voice has that feeling of tension that is perfect for them.
@kittykattzee
@kittykattzee Жыл бұрын
Holy crap this needs a movie. Seriously, the suspense and the horror is insane.
@hiddenshadow2105
@hiddenshadow2105 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts through the battle "Please, everybody, JUST STOP MOVING, PLEASE!"
@Zombiewizard
@Zombiewizard 3 жыл бұрын
especially at 41:21
@Kobold1650
@Kobold1650 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much, had an old naval Leutenent Comander talk about CBDR ( we are on track to crash in layman) and he said the only thing you can do that is pretty much fool proof is slow down or stop.
@hiddenshadow2105
@hiddenshadow2105 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zombiewizard And then at 43:54 5th battle squadron arrived.
@lyravain6304
@lyravain6304 3 жыл бұрын
@@hiddenshadow2105 Insert Avatar narrator voice: "Everything was going to hell and then the 5th battle squadron showed up"
@hiddenshadow2105
@hiddenshadow2105 3 жыл бұрын
@@lyravain6304 Exactly.
@MangaManiac16
@MangaManiac16 3 жыл бұрын
Even though this is just 2D shapes and dots on a black background, I couldn't help but be absolutely horrified and aghast when the ships plowed straight through the men in the water, and seeing the other ship torn in half... the terror those poor men suffered, what a terrible way to die, and yet they weren't even properly honored because the higher ups were to proud to admit their fault.
@MasterSanders
@MasterSanders 3 жыл бұрын
Leaves more to the imagination, which in turn makes it scarier.
@BlueMoonSamurai
@BlueMoonSamurai 3 жыл бұрын
I know! I was groaning and saying "Oh my god!" throughout the entire video.
@cadencressman
@cadencressman 3 жыл бұрын
I literally kept yelling OH NO everytime one of them was about to hit the other lol
@harker-san6903
@harker-san6903 3 жыл бұрын
I got terrible chills
@emeryltekutsu4357
@emeryltekutsu4357 3 жыл бұрын
I know. Just knowing that the dots were people, even with such simple drawings it was horrific.
@velho3942
@velho3942 Жыл бұрын
Ok pimp, time to post a new 3 hour video that I can listen to a dozen times while working.
@portgax
@portgax Жыл бұрын
He's working on a 6 hour long one
@Livingontheweb
@Livingontheweb Жыл бұрын
Showed up made banger after banger disappeared without a trace. Based.
@coryfusting9294
@coryfusting9294 Жыл бұрын
He turned into an owl and talks to other animals on twitch
@Treyman-yi7ei
@Treyman-yi7ei Жыл бұрын
Tbf he's left a lot of traces he gives consistent updates on his Patreon
@riograndedosulball248
@riograndedosulball248 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of anxiety this is giving me is horrid, when I think "oh okay, now it's gotta end right?" Another ship appears and it keeps getting worse
@giuseppetiso531
@giuseppetiso531 3 жыл бұрын
Knudson: HOWEVER...
@timbusfahrer3172
@timbusfahrer3172 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh man i sure got lucky that this Destroyer missed me and didn't cut me into ribbo... wait is that 5 more of them?"
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
Its like a trainwreck spanning multiple tracks and dozens of trains... except depending on the severity of the crash the trains will sink into the earth killing literally everyone aboard.
@sultanexuma2157
@sultanexuma2157 3 жыл бұрын
"Damn the K-class really sucks" *But what if we added a big gun?*
@roberte2945
@roberte2945 3 жыл бұрын
Or a plane!?
@beesong2450
@beesong2450 3 жыл бұрын
It added a new feature lmao
@johnr797
@johnr797 3 жыл бұрын
Haha jk *unless...*
@bigmanshad
@bigmanshad 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea! What else could possibly go wrong?
@cumulushalo576
@cumulushalo576 3 жыл бұрын
@@roberte2945 Crewman: What's the plane for? Captain: So I can escape. I mean... search for u-boats. 😏
@DLTA64
@DLTA64 Жыл бұрын
for anybody wondering: his next video will be about EVE Online, and (according to his twitter) it will be out in August
@bradtolch
@bradtolch Жыл бұрын
Tyvm. I don't use twitter and was about to ask what happened to his channel.
@praisekek8606
@praisekek8606 10 ай бұрын
Please come back Fredrik I miss your uploads
@Fionalah
@Fionalah 10 ай бұрын
This was a great series. I wonder where he went?
@crystalkami5166
@crystalkami5166 10 ай бұрын
@@Fionalah he's still working on his latest video, which hopefully should be out sometime by the end of this year. Unfortunately, he decided to do a video on a subject that's everchanging and constantly evolving, so the script just kept getting longer as new events began to unfold. I think once it's out, it'll be one of his best works yet, and hopefully he'll return to a more normal schedule.
@TroubleToby3040
@TroubleToby3040 10 ай бұрын
@@crystalkami5166 Listen, I don't pay him a dime and his content is excellent so he can do what he wants... But what the f@#k are YOU doing? Are you paid to apologize for this guy? Do you have issues of your own that might be a more reasonable use of your time? It doesn't take two years to make a 100-million-dollar epic film! Do you foresee him being able to release something that undeniably justifies TWO YEARS without content? No. Nothing could do that. Obviously. Also, why not just sneak a couple of real quickie videos in while apologizing for the unjustifiable wait? Right? It's free to me, so fine, but this amount of delay CAN'T be legitimate.
@crystalkami5166
@crystalkami5166 10 ай бұрын
@@TroubleToby3040 nah man, I'm just a fan who likes to keep up with his work. It's purely courtesy to tell people what's going on with the next video when they're out of the loop. iirc he sneaks stuff on his patreon and will post stuff about it on his twitter but when the subject he's doing this time (EVE Online) is such a fickle and everchanging one you'd understand the extreme delays. This is a five hour long video we're talking about, covering one of the most complex, rich, and interesting video game histories of all time, it's going to take a while. Take a chill pill and just wait.
@panged
@panged 6 ай бұрын
ok he did
@AGrayPhantom
@AGrayPhantom 3 жыл бұрын
The word "arrogance" seems to pop up a lot in The Great War.
@eddedmonds5753
@eddedmonds5753 3 жыл бұрын
It really was so critical. Dan Carlin's Hardcore History series on WW1 goes into it in fantastic detail. Politics and arrogance abound.
@qwellen7521
@qwellen7521 3 жыл бұрын
@@eddedmonds5753 “just run at the machine gun nest, it’s going to work at some point”
@claytonreeves150
@claytonreeves150 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing to match human ingenuity is human arrogance, after all.
@neolancer005
@neolancer005 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of Europe's generals were around the end of rank and file combat and were members of the upper class
@volodymyrbilyk555
@volodymyrbilyk555 3 жыл бұрын
That's what's it was all about
@DarknessInferno15
@DarknessInferno15 3 жыл бұрын
The saddest part of this whole affair is that the men aboard these submarines and ships were very talented sailors. Their quick actions stopped what could have easily been a much greater loss of life. But they were sealed in death traps; ticking time bombs. They were sent to their death by their incompetent superior officers, plain and simple.
@LeastSaneBRDMain
@LeastSaneBRDMain 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just incompetence, it's pure hubris. Their higher ups refused to adapt to the changing times and the true methodology of warfare. Their refusal to break from their "one fleet" ideology, make death traps that were borderline impossible at the time and to an extent even today, and even after such a harrowing disaster, they refused to admit their defeat and would rather cover up their obvious mistakes then actually be punished for it. If I even heard about this at the time, I would make sure EVERYONE knows about this; these men should have been held accountable while they were alive, and those who died should have had their loved ones told about what happened.
@Zebo12345678
@Zebo12345678 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Some of those maneuvers were intensely skilled, but there is only so much that skill can do for you in those conditions. There was no reason for such a horrific tragedy like this. None whatsoever.
@MrPooleish
@MrPooleish 3 жыл бұрын
"This could have been worse" is a haunting thought
@MarkoArillius
@MarkoArillius 3 жыл бұрын
That and that none of the surviving sailors shot their admirals.
@legateelizabeth
@legateelizabeth 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's basically the entire First World War, especially for the British (at least in our cultural memory). "Brave men sent to death by incompetent superiors."
@NovianLeVanMusic
@NovianLeVanMusic Жыл бұрын
Hope you return, and I hope all is well! 2023 is around the corner!
@saltt1
@saltt1 2 жыл бұрын
We all miss you Fredrik Knudsen hopefully your hiatus comes to an end and we can get more rabbit hole videos!
@deweycox8409
@deweycox8409 3 жыл бұрын
Between this and Internet Historian's the Cost of Concordia, I am staying on dry ground as God intended.
@3three3three3three
@3three3three3three 3 жыл бұрын
both ships were cursed by the number 13. but i agree with you
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Dunno, maybe Poseidon is feeling angry that navies have forgotten him.
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 3 жыл бұрын
Read The Atlantic article on the Estonia, if you want a really bad night in.
@zephyrus339
@zephyrus339 3 жыл бұрын
Then I'd better not going to tell you about Drachinifel's channel.
@burningphoneix
@burningphoneix 3 жыл бұрын
It's why they wrote the Sea Chanty: ♪Ye gentlemen of England♪ ♪Who live home at ease,♪ ♪It's little do you think♪ ♪Of the dangers of the seas;♪
@Severalangrybees
@Severalangrybees 3 жыл бұрын
"What the hell are you doing?" Shouted the man who had just moments prior done PRECISELY the same thing
@v3ck1n
@v3ck1n 3 жыл бұрын
Just tag me next time bro
@ericstevens8138
@ericstevens8138 3 жыл бұрын
You know how road rage is fam
@lingricen8077
@lingricen8077 Жыл бұрын
If you shouted that at me, then I would have no choice but to continue what I was doing *insouciantly*
@Kroggnagch
@Kroggnagch Жыл бұрын
Lol I thought that exact same thing
@Aerotides
@Aerotides Жыл бұрын
What the HELL are WE doing ? Just does not have the same punch tbh
@anthonyhughes8026
@anthonyhughes8026 Жыл бұрын
That was straight up incredible. Unnerving, well-narrated, well scored, brilliantly scripted. More importantly, I had no idea about this forgotten bit of history. Those poor men-like hell on Earth. I discovered you on The Official Podcast. Bravo, liked and subbed. Thank you.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 6 ай бұрын
Yet submarines are boats not ships
@xargon666
@xargon666 7 ай бұрын
I know that nobody is obligated to create content, in fact it's absurd to expect someone to go on, creating content forever. But life is absurd, as absurd as my demands, and I demand that Frekrik Knudsen create more of these documentary videos. I defy anyone to name a finer author, truly I do.
@analogmoz
@analogmoz 7 ай бұрын
_Out of Position_ by Kyell Gold is, perhaps, a finer author of the style.
@jahlovegoogle9644
@jahlovegoogle9644 7 ай бұрын
He is obligated if he's still taking Patreon money with no warning right
@nelsondfg211
@nelsondfg211 7 ай бұрын
I heard that he is working on a big video about eve online
@CRITICALHITRU
@CRITICALHITRU 7 ай бұрын
Ladies ang gentlemen. We gottem.
@shitbuttpoopfuck8664
@shitbuttpoopfuck8664 3 жыл бұрын
Few things inspire more dread than hearing Fredrick Knudsen say "however".
@diegorincon4673
@diegorincon4673 2 жыл бұрын
Good lord. You shits going down when he says that.
@mysteriousknowledgetexts9809
@mysteriousknowledgetexts9809 2 жыл бұрын
THE ILLUMINATI / CIA CREATE AN UNDETECTABLE MIND CONTROL SLAVE BOOK. (walk in the rain) on my channel :)
@ShermTank7272
@ShermTank7272 2 жыл бұрын
@@mysteriousknowledgetexts9809 Joke's on you, I can't read
@Blisterdude123
@Blisterdude123 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShermTank7272 Jokes on you, they probably can't even spell.
@karlt.joyful5969
@karlt.joyful5969 3 жыл бұрын
A deadly "battle" where not a single shot was fired and the enemy, hubris and poor choices, clearly won.
@arciks11
@arciks11 3 жыл бұрын
Not unheard of. during WW2 Germany lost to itself in an Aircraft/Ship engagement where both German sides confused each other for enemy.
@SteffenBauer
@SteffenBauer 3 жыл бұрын
depends if flares count
@arciks11
@arciks11 3 жыл бұрын
@Rafael Enriquez Thanks for the name of it. I only remembered the rough outline from Qxir's video on it.
@docdave15
@docdave15 3 жыл бұрын
It's almost like a real life Twilight zone episode.
@PaP384
@PaP384 3 жыл бұрын
@@arciks11 the royal navy also accidentally shot at each other during the chase of the Bismarck
@dubsthelegacy
@dubsthelegacy 8 ай бұрын
I miss this series 😢
@Lonech
@Lonech 7 ай бұрын
well you're in luck! :) get ready to lose 6 horus of your life
@jamesanthony3691
@jamesanthony3691 Жыл бұрын
This was an Excellent mostly forgotten historical documentary. I have watched thousands of history documentaries & this is on of the best I’ve watched. Simple but very detailed & entertaining. I don’t know if you still make videos like this anymore but sure hope you do more.
@pageclayton6850
@pageclayton6850 3 жыл бұрын
FK: "Steam powered submarine" Me: oh no Edit: I wasn't aware that modern subs are also steam powered. The main reason I panicked at Steam Powered Subs is cause, in the 1910s, they required fire. And fire needs oxygen. And there isn't oxygen underwater. As the video continued, I realized that there were a lot more problems than I thought.
@LintSplinter
@LintSplinter 3 жыл бұрын
@Muad'Dib what’s really interesting to me is just how many comments I’ve seen that specifically call this out. It’s a *bad* idea from step 1 and surely if KZbin commenters in 2021 saw this immediately, wartime engineers back then did too. But for some reason people in leadership positions sometimes feel as though it’s because they’re too smart and nobody understands them that nobody is agreeing with them. 🤦🏿‍♂️
@alberum8442
@alberum8442 3 жыл бұрын
@@LintSplinter That, and also that they think that their decisions reflect their leadership. Proud people being powerfull think that questioning their decisions means questioning their hability as leaders. So, they never rectify or change their course of action as they believe that would be the same as saying "Yeah, what I did before was wrong". It happened a lot during history. And we still do it. Technology may advance, but there is no cure against stupidity.
@Panteni87
@Panteni87 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it didn't go wrong in any way i expected it to go wrong considering they were steam engines... no crazy explosions or anything. There seemed to have been one technical malfunction (the rudder) and i don't know what that has to do with the propulsion system. This was all because communication was too primitive for the technology they were using, steam powered or not.
@LintSplinter
@LintSplinter 3 жыл бұрын
@@Panteni87 if the submarines were smaller, and could turn better, or reliably dive quickly, like the Germans that inspired the project. regardless of the rudder malfunction, this may not have been *as big* a disaster as it was.
@GamingDreamer
@GamingDreamer 3 жыл бұрын
Better than Epic Store Powered submarine
@thegrimcritic5494
@thegrimcritic5494 3 жыл бұрын
The instant he mentioned that the British thought steam engines would work for submarines I knew some next-level bullshit was about to go down.
@squ1dd13
@squ1dd13 2 жыл бұрын
“chugga chugga boom drown”
@d.aardent9382
@d.aardent9382 2 жыл бұрын
Ehhh im no engineer but that sounds pretty messed up idea.
@josharmstrong8813
@josharmstrong8813 2 жыл бұрын
@@d.aardent9382 it seems forever go down in history as one of those instantly recognisable bad ideas like the steam powered aircraft and the nuclear powered train Oh and that nuclear-powered bomber the Americans tried making that one time
@carlwinslo
@carlwinslo 2 жыл бұрын
they woulda been better off ramming them like they did everyone else
@mwaters421
@mwaters421 2 жыл бұрын
Unreal
@radioactivepotato2068
@radioactivepotato2068 11 ай бұрын
I'd give my left Knudsen for a new video. I'm stuck watching the Collyer brothers, once a month for sustenance.
@tailsmaniac1
@tailsmaniac1 11 ай бұрын
To everyone wondering about Fred, his last Patreon update date is 6/30/23 aka last Friday. He's still active, just SUPER DUPER busy
@analogmoz
@analogmoz 11 ай бұрын
doing
@bockskarr6626
@bockskarr6626 10 ай бұрын
Copium. He's just laughing to the bank
@20deepini
@20deepini 10 ай бұрын
Busy with what? Obviously not this content
@dogshake
@dogshake 10 ай бұрын
@@20deepinia 5 hour video about EVE online. So yes, this content.
@Rehunauris
@Rehunauris 10 ай бұрын
@@dogshake Do people watch that stuff?
@floatinghamstick
@floatinghamstick 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine casually asking if it was normal for a submarine to dive backwards and being told no.
@KlaxontheImpailr
@KlaxontheImpailr 3 жыл бұрын
Did he mean diving while going in reverse or diving stern first?
@joshuadickinson4614
@joshuadickinson4614 3 жыл бұрын
@@KlaxontheImpailr Presumably the latter.
@benjiwis5228
@benjiwis5228 3 жыл бұрын
German uboat peroscope. Commander: "What the fxck are they doing" Crew: "Should we fire Sir?" Commander: "Not yet, i want to see this trainwreck"
@obodobear
@obodobear 3 жыл бұрын
Stfu
@mizz1414
@mizz1414 3 жыл бұрын
@@obodobear Dude wat
@mailman019
@mailman019 3 жыл бұрын
@@obodobear Who hurt you?
@crushingon
@crushingon 3 жыл бұрын
"Gerhard, get me the popcorn"
@lukevulcano587
@lukevulcano587 3 жыл бұрын
my mom doesnt let me say fuck thanks for censoring it
@hardyworld
@hardyworld 2 жыл бұрын
I found this documentary fascinating and I've now watched it 4 times over the last 9 months (why does this not have more views?). Production was excellent and it has a great script. I look forward to more content like this from this team.
@SatchPersaud-sm1gc
@SatchPersaud-sm1gc 5 ай бұрын
Wtf, I been subscribed to this channel and just realized the amount of great content on this channel, gotta stop working so much and treat my mind to some good mental snacks
@Arcaxon
@Arcaxon 3 жыл бұрын
I've made all of the animations you see in the video! The video had me doing research on each specific boat so I could represent them as accuratly as possible and lots of questions to Fred about if the movement I had just animated was correct. There is a wealth of WIP stuff and scrapped content which we might utilize for a future mistakes video. This video also was the first time I created a poster out of the Designs within the show(Will be on sale later). This video uses the most graphics and animations of any episode so far with 32 minutes and 48 seconds of animation over the entire 1 hour run time of this video. I really do hope you all enjoy the video; as usual Fred, Ryan and I worked hard on the video!
@J.Skyler
@J.Skyler 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for making the episode that much better!
@waveee
@waveee 3 жыл бұрын
Great job
@ninmgen4240
@ninmgen4240 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet profile Pic!
@SanctusBacchus
@SanctusBacchus 3 жыл бұрын
@UCTarQzfJsGBVYHIn8Tap0NQ it was probably private and made public. Or he is a witch
@trosinesss
@trosinesss 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a god
@Sigh95
@Sigh95 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love how the memorial places quotations around “Battle”
@phoebe5
@phoebe5 3 жыл бұрын
In a battle between Britain and Britain, britain lost
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
@@phoebe5 The history of Britain, in one sentence.
@ElementVoidX
@ElementVoidX 3 жыл бұрын
the battle of the Superiors ego and the sub mariners lives....
@Fuck_off2_1519_
@Fuck_off2_1519_ Жыл бұрын
It's been a year daddy, I really really miss u 😭
@Igorcastrochucre
@Igorcastrochucre 2 жыл бұрын
I had this conversation with someone once that went like: "The main difference between Star Wars and Star Trek is like the difference between a fighter jet and a submarine, one is supposed to be fast paced action of a full frontal assault other is supposed to be slow, stealthy and use force when absolute necessary. If you try to make one do what the other does, you clearly have no idea what you're doing."
@jimbones8795
@jimbones8795 3 жыл бұрын
that play-by-play was one of the most stressful things i've ever listened to
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 3 жыл бұрын
The use of music and sound effects in this video elevates the tension of this seaborn tragedy so much.
@CountJoe1
@CountJoe1 3 жыл бұрын
when those destroyers were encroaching on the survivors in the watermy mouth was agape in disbelief and anticipation of the horrifying event that was to come.
@ArtForSwans
@ArtForSwans 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 18 minutes in but I wanted to comment on the fact that the British Royal Navy probably advanced submarine development by showing exactly how *not* to build a submarine. Like they practically invented new ways for stuff to go wrong.
@doctorsnakeeater1997
@doctorsnakeeater1997 3 жыл бұрын
Its like Onision helping literature class since English teachers use his books as examples on how *not* to write a story.
@katevgrady
@katevgrady 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah cuz see I had thought it would probably be good for subs to dive into the ground nose first but thanks to the British navy I now know that's not good
@gabriel.b9036
@gabriel.b9036 2 жыл бұрын
@Astolfo Desu What makes you think British Submarines were any better than German ones?
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris Жыл бұрын
The thing is most of what's in the early part of the video not only isn't true but is the complete opposite of the truth. The British started the war with the largest submarine fleet in the world (76 compared to Germany's 28, including 16 long-range patrol subs), pioneered diesel submarines, and by the end of the war had the first hunter-killer submarines in service. Fischer was actually a proponent of submarines. The issue with the K Class was that they were literally the only solution to a demand for a surface speed of 21 knots: even at the end of the war the fastest subs with diesel engines (British J Class) could only manage 19.
@brandonmerideth481
@brandonmerideth481 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Narration is professional grade, depth of information is excellent, and pictures and graphics are terrific for visualizing what you are discussing. Keep up the amazing work!!
@swapsplat
@swapsplat 10 ай бұрын
Jesus... It's been 2 years since you uploaded... C'mon man!
@Nakla
@Nakla Жыл бұрын
It's crazy that the distance between each upload got longer and longer and now it's almost 2 years since the last Video came out.
@spiritus2475
@spiritus2475 3 жыл бұрын
It's called a battle, and they literally didn't engage in a single enemy. And the worst part is, a battle is still an appropriate thing to call it.
@NotAGoodUsername360
@NotAGoodUsername360 3 жыл бұрын
Well they never identified the two unknown ships that set the dominoes off, maybe it WAS an enemy?
@zaleost
@zaleost 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotAGoodUsername360 One would think that if these ships were then they would have tried to engage the subs or that something else nearby would have been targeted, but it seems nothing like that was reported. It could have just been a pair of the mine sweeping ships went off course and didn't realise where they were or they might have been fishing ships or something. I suppose the key problem is that if they didn't find the answer at the time, there is little we can do now to find it either with any level of certainty.
@Jack_Woods
@Jack_Woods 3 жыл бұрын
Here on the internet we call it The Bruh Moment Incident
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 3 жыл бұрын
It's referred to as a "Battle" in a tone of mockery.
@huleyn135
@huleyn135 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotAGoodUsername360 Wikipedia says the two unknown ships were British minesweepers. Because of wartime secrecy, the minesweepers were not informed of this exercise, and had no idea about this. And the exercise navy had no idea about the minesweepers either.
@infamousgamer767
@infamousgamer767 3 жыл бұрын
"Klaus are we ever going to take a shot at these Brits?" "I... I really don't think we need to."
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
"Drive us in close, Klaus. Lets give them a handicap." "Sir they have fired a torpedo- impact is imminent!" *dud* "Well. There is their handicap. Set course back to Germany, Klaus."
@yelloweyeball
@yelloweyeball 3 жыл бұрын
"Well we could just tell the Kaiser we were the ones who did it."
@ASAPShitPost
@ASAPShitPost 3 жыл бұрын
@@BloodfelX lol are you making this up or is this from something
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
@@ASAPShitPost Based on the incident mentioned in the video where the only time a K-Class came in contact with a U-Boat it hit it with a dud torpedo.
@owendrungle
@owendrungle Жыл бұрын
Considering you've raked in over 80k on patreon since the last upload, I'm expecting this Eve video to be worth 80k lmfao
@NerpTheCat
@NerpTheCat Жыл бұрын
w math
@bru4773
@bru4773 9 ай бұрын
Its 6 hours long, so there's that. And his patrons have been getting regular updates of his progress - any of them that were frustrated with his progress unsubbed long ago.
@WorldsWorstBoy
@WorldsWorstBoy Жыл бұрын
We miss you
@gabrielrobinson1279
@gabrielrobinson1279 3 жыл бұрын
Sub: *Already dives backward sometimes* Admiralty: *G U N*
@CarrotConsumer
@CarrotConsumer 3 жыл бұрын
"Sir, these ships are terrible." Admiralty: "Put a big gun on it lol."
@gabrielrobinson1279
@gabrielrobinson1279 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarrotConsumer "Sir, it's gotten worse" Admiralty : "You're right... Put a plane on some of them instead so they can't dive"
@joaogomes9405
@joaogomes9405 3 жыл бұрын
Ship too heavy to work properly? Put big gun. Still no work? Put plane hangar.
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarrotConsumer I've said this elsewhere, but Fred got that wrong. The M class weren't K class refits, they are a novel design. Most obviously, they didn't have a steam engine.
@joaogomes9405
@joaogomes9405 2 жыл бұрын
@@CruelestChris that somehow makes it worse. Because not only did they get one submarine obscenely wrong, they got two
@Loup-mx7yt
@Loup-mx7yt 3 жыл бұрын
Someone: does something reasonable Narrator: *However*
@zealousjay1993
@zealousjay1993 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@informitas0117
@informitas0117 3 жыл бұрын
The k12 plowed into k14 which was rapidly followed by sharks with bees in their mouths and the Martians landing their flying saucer on k22. After some time the meteor struck.
@zealousjay1993
@zealousjay1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@informitas0117 🤣🤣🤣 sounds accurate
@tombkings6279
@tombkings6279 2 жыл бұрын
Narrator: "you have no power here I control how your story starts and ends."
@gracekelley2907
@gracekelley2907 2 жыл бұрын
@@informitas0117 And then, the fire nation attacked.
@micryt.
@micryt. 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't abandon the channel guys. He's working on his new video and it's going to be long.
@Kyle_Riel
@Kyle_Riel 2 жыл бұрын
Thats disappointing. I hate the new Influencer trend of one super long video once a year instead of multiple, regular 30 minute videos.
@dankbonkripper7815
@dankbonkripper7815 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_Riel well i mean to each their own but i'd rather have a super long, well thought out and interesting video that completely encompasses a topic rather than a super condensed version of a topic. Plus this guy always has super high quality videos and i feel like they'd lose their luster if he tried to pump them out like everybody else, even if i have to take a break sometimes i always find myself coming back.
@micryt.
@micryt. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_Riel Wtf? Are you aware on what type of channel you are on? What influencers have to do with anything? Wtf? And influencers do the opposite. They upload frequently shorter and lower effort videos to stay relevant.
@Kyle_Riel
@Kyle_Riel 2 жыл бұрын
@@micryt. my bad. I thought this was ur moms onlyfans page
@martymcfly88mph35
@martymcfly88mph35 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_Riel based comment
@HasanBabasi
@HasanBabasi Жыл бұрын
Where are you. I miss you.
@austinwallett5140
@austinwallett5140 Жыл бұрын
He's making a video on the history of EVE Online. Supposedly it's going to be 5+ hours long.
@HasanBabasi
@HasanBabasi Жыл бұрын
@@austinwallett5140 holy shit that would be awesome
@Ramonatho
@Ramonatho 3 жыл бұрын
Smashing the periscope glass with a hammer is one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. "I've got a multi million dollar warship." "I've got a claw hammer from Victorian Harbor Freight."
@wilmagregg3131
@wilmagregg3131 2 жыл бұрын
funfact they also applys to space during the space race the russians made a laser pistol specifally ment for cosmonauts to point blank shot america satiletes solar pannels to destroy them
@richardhockey8442
@richardhockey8442 2 жыл бұрын
@@wilmagregg3131 and launching the 30mm cannon from a BMP on a satellite
@userequaltoNull
@userequaltoNull 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of shit is what I worry about with the modern navy. Ffs, hitting modern radars is as easy as hitting the broad side of a barn, and I doubt that they are armored.
@joey4ever444
@joey4ever444 2 жыл бұрын
​@@userequaltoNull The solar panels are covered in thick plates of steel to protect them.
@swineafterbirth
@swineafterbirth 2 жыл бұрын
Had I been alive back then, I would have volunteered to be a 'smash-lad' and would have done it naked. Could you imagine the German's befuddlement peering through a periscope in the open ocean only to see a naked man with a hammer smashing your periscope lens? 'Un Gott in Himmel, Franz, I'm going mad.'
@callusklaus2413
@callusklaus2413 3 жыл бұрын
"Dismantled for her metal" was the only good thing that happened in this story, jesus
@asneakylawngnome5792
@asneakylawngnome5792 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine having to be the guy to clean and salvage the turbines the men fell into..oh god..
@thetwilightzone2403
@thetwilightzone2403 3 жыл бұрын
@@asneakylawngnome5792 he probably had PTSD after looking at those turbines.
@lukk4123
@lukk4123 3 жыл бұрын
@@asneakylawngnome5792 Probably felt similar to the guys cleaning up tank crew remains out of the damaged tanks. Horrible.
@ActuallyNickV
@ActuallyNickV Жыл бұрын
One of the bad things about a KZbin channel you love getting more popular is that they always start to disappear 🙃
@G4rfield
@G4rfield Жыл бұрын
Really miss you man. This channel is my favorite by far. I've watched every vid you've put out like 3 times now & I have yet to find another channel similar in content & quality. Hope the vid is still coming out relatively soon.
@sagekaley
@sagekaley 3 жыл бұрын
this made me think about how no matter how comically, absurdly ridiculous something seems in fiction, something much more horrifying and insane has happened in real life (and almost always due to the negligence and arrogance of those in power). what a tragic loss of life in a surreal set of events that could have been avoided if their superiors cared about them at all.
@emeryltekutsu4357
@emeryltekutsu4357 3 жыл бұрын
I was just talking about exactly this recently, watching true crime stories a lot. The horrors in movies don't even compare to things that have really happened. Just another reminder for people why you never blindly follow "the experts". This is an accurate depiction of "the experts" in most cases - people who just sort of think they know what they're doing and probably don't, and if they mess up it doesn't effect them personally.
@VladimirDemetrovIlyushin
@VladimirDemetrovIlyushin 3 жыл бұрын
@@emeryltekutsu4357 I've met some "Experts" myself, just a bunch of overconfident, narcissistic assholes covering their backsides. Blind trust never leads you to the right path.
@Supahpowahnerd890
@Supahpowahnerd890 3 жыл бұрын
Fiction has to be believable for it to be successful; reality doesn't.
@daveroberts2296
@daveroberts2296 3 жыл бұрын
@sagekaley@ I know what you mean, Sage. Many Generals, Admirals and the like, haven't paid anywhere close to enough attention to the welfare of their troops and sailors. Yet, in this case, Fred remarks quite early on in the video that this particular Sea Lord, Sir John Fisher, was of a different stripe from that unfortunate norm. Fisher attempted to revolutionise the British Navy in the time of his power, 1904-1910 and then briefly from Oct. 1914 until May 1915. One example of his concern for his sailors, Sage, was to improve rations across the board. For instance, instead of their normal daily supply of "hardtack", he insisted that they be fed fresh bread, baked aboard the ship. Here's a description of hardtack; "And, as it had been for thousands of years, hardtack remained a staple. The British Royal Navy began mass-producing hardtack in the mid-17th century. The recipe was flour, salt, and water. To make it last on a long voyage, they removed all the moisture, sometimes baking it four times. Sailors referred to these unpalatable but sustaining sea biscuits as “molar breakers.” They soaked them in tea or brine to make a sort of mush. Accounts of life at sea describe sailors rapping their hardtack, a/k/a “worm castles” on the table or deck to knock the weevils out of it. The cook wasn’t a regular position, either. Instead, whatever injured crew member was unfit for regular duty was assigned to feed the hungry masses. Considering what their culinary skills might have been explains why shipmates coined the phrase, “God made the vittles, but the devil made the cook.” Apparently, hardtack was frequently infested by biscuit beetles (oh, yummy, my favourite)! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fisher,_1st_Baron_Fisher Wishing you all the best ... Dave
@sagganuts18
@sagganuts18 3 жыл бұрын
"the difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense" Tom Clancy
@yoswayd5520
@yoswayd5520 3 жыл бұрын
The moral here is simple: if you’re going to make a mistake make sure it’s a huge one so you can keep your job
@Blackferret66
@Blackferret66 3 жыл бұрын
@T teg Egg Too big to fail.
@brairag5744
@brairag5744 3 жыл бұрын
If you're going to F something up, do it so badly they put your name in the history book.
@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide
@AnimatedStoriesWorldwide 3 жыл бұрын
Corollary: If you're high enough to make a huge mistake, there is none above you to fire you.
@noahmcintosh7540
@noahmcintosh7540 3 жыл бұрын
Ego >> Everything
@BloodfelX
@BloodfelX 3 жыл бұрын
If you're doing something wrong, just keep telling everyone you're doing the right thing. -Might as well be a quote by Matt Hancock, current Secretary of State for Health and Social Care for the UK; still in government nearing 4 months after being declared to have acted unlawfully by a High Court judge in regard to contracts worth hundreds of millions of pounds. EDIT: Deleted a duplicate post that somehow occurred.
@grimaper
@grimaper 9 ай бұрын
Somebody should make a down the rabbit hole on down the rabbit hole.
@Flugmorph
@Flugmorph 9 ай бұрын
hes a vtuber now, aka based.
@AlphaCarinae
@AlphaCarinae 7 ай бұрын
The only thing they would be able to make a video on is the legion of butthurt losers who are unreasonably upset that he decided to do something else
@Flugmorph
@Flugmorph 7 ай бұрын
@@AlphaCarinae based
@jamesballew5001
@jamesballew5001 Жыл бұрын
You make the absolute best videos of this kind. I hope to see some more of your amazing work soon, it is greatly missed.
@G4rfield
@G4rfield Жыл бұрын
So do I :( but he regularly streams on twitch if you’re willing to listen for a few hours! :)
@LordVarkson
@LordVarkson 3 жыл бұрын
"The Australia, The New Zealand, The Indomitable and The Inflexible" This sounds like a bit in a comedy act, not a retelling of history.
@Peaceful3arth
@Peaceful3arth 3 жыл бұрын
An Australia, a New Zealand, an Indomitable, and an inflexible sail into fog...
@bobskywalker2707
@bobskywalker2707 3 жыл бұрын
New Zealand’s captain wore Maori war gear during the battle for good luck.
@g1sbi
@g1sbi 3 жыл бұрын
Man, it’s one thing to die in war, but dying in such a needless way is so depressing.
@Armadill0h
@Armadill0h 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really all needless
@Ramsonpwndz
@Ramsonpwndz 3 жыл бұрын
"dying in such a needless way" WW1 In a nutshell
@dragonsword7370
@dragonsword7370 3 жыл бұрын
Operation tiger I think it was called. When the allies in ww2 were field dressing the d-day beach landing in the English southern coast. The flotilla of men cargo ships and men in Higgins landing boats were mistaken for an enemy landing force and shot at. Many numbers were killed and injured. It was buried because it was a week before June 6th and for secrecy.
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
The whole war was needless, the main leaders were all fucking cousins, since they all shared Victoria as their grandma.
@Sillimant_
@Sillimant_ 3 жыл бұрын
dying in war is already pointless. you die for the politicians, who refuse to talk like normal people until thousands are needlessly killed
@huejanus1333
@huejanus1333 Жыл бұрын
Its been a year daddy. I really really miss you
@Jakewubadub
@Jakewubadub Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the next video dude. Ive watched this a few times now I think you would do really well with multiple hour long narrations. 5 hours are gonna pass by so quickly 😪
@matchaia
@matchaia 3 жыл бұрын
It almost feels fake, the amount of times you had to report that a ship was steering away from another ship ONLY to put it on a crash course with the next ship behind it... 😬
@Xtoff
@Xtoff 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like if the power cut to a nightclub then from the darkness someone yells “FUCKIN RUN!”. Big lumbering drunks running in every which way and after time people crash there’s a long pause as their drunk brain tries to process what happened.
@nooneinparticular3370
@nooneinparticular3370 3 жыл бұрын
It's one of those things that, were you to see it in a movie, you'd think it's ridiculously exaggerated for cheap drama. And yet it happened...
@joshuamiller8235
@joshuamiller8235 3 жыл бұрын
@@nooneinparticular3370 This definitely needs a movie adaptation IMO. It would pay respect to all those sailors that died that didn't get the respect they deserved from their country at the time.
@joshuamiller8235
@joshuamiller8235 3 жыл бұрын
A chain reaction
@uzen
@uzen 3 жыл бұрын
The idea of running a steam engine in a submarine is one of the scariest things I can imagine.
@YBPaladin
@YBPaladin 3 жыл бұрын
Like what about monoxide poisoning? Wouldn't that be a problem?
@CruelestChris
@CruelestChris 3 жыл бұрын
@@YBPaladin The steam engine was for running the sub on the surface, these were submersibles, not submarines. U-boats did the same thing but with a diesel engine. They had batteries for running underwater, but the demands for ventilation and cooling meant it was a time-consuming process to prepare the steam engine for a dive (shut it down, close off all the ventilators, etc).
@VHSo_o
@VHSo_o 3 жыл бұрын
@@YBPaladin Luckily, as this takes place in 1918, carbon monoxide had not been invented yet
@xxXBig_BenXxx
@xxXBig_BenXxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@YBPaladin nah, steam is just hot water. Idk about Diesel Engines though, ig that since they use batteries while they're underwater, they only run the generators while on the surface, so that the exhaust can be vented outside the ship
@paynepersons6147
@paynepersons6147 3 жыл бұрын
Aren’t most nuclear reactors just steam engines that use nuclear energy to heat the water instead of burning coal? Like the ones used on submarines.
@attackofthecopyrightbots
@attackofthecopyrightbots 9 ай бұрын
such a popular channel im baffled he hasnt made anything for 2 years
@JustHereForTheDialogue
@JustHereForTheDialogue Жыл бұрын
I hate waiting for your vids but it’s always such a banger when it finally comes out. Hoping you have something currently in the works.
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