Star Citizen - Down the Rabbit Hole

[@neilwu3912]

Internet Historian will probably have published THREE videos by the time Star Citizen comes out.

[@chrissawyer1484]

Dang.

[@darthdenco]

Damn now I want a video of him about Star Citizen, sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legend (Which is still more of a game than Star Citizen).

[@kerbo2383]

@@darthdenco ouch

[@archdukefranzferdinand567]

@@thiefofa1073 You pressed 2 instead of 3

[@expecos1346]

thiefofa1073 *9047

[@kira-dk2mx]

Real talk, No Man's Sky had an entire anime redemption arc before this game even dished out its alpha.

[@encinoman903]

mechsuits, bruh

[@DragonGyrl96]

That and we also learned why they seemed to have so many delays and problems. (internet historian has a video on it that's rather enlightening)

[@justdrop]

Don't give a fuck, they lied about it and will not receive a cent from me.

[@Chroniclast-Tau]

Where?! I want it!

[@barbarodave]

@@justdrop Being stubborn will prevent you for playing a really great game. Too bad.

[@milymentalist]

Just for the record, there's been 3 different US presidents, a global pandemic, Britain got out of the EU and the Cubs won the world series since this game has been announced.

[@alqaadi9858]

wow a game in dev for that long; i'm hyped

[@unknowngod8221]

@@alqaadi9858 yeah i die

[@Izzmonster]

Longest and most expensive train wreck to have ever happened.

[@Deranfan]

Who the fuck are the cubs?

[@konstantinzeeb7331]

@@Deranfan What is the „World Series“?

[@RogueAI]

Back when this game was announced on Kickstarter, one of the main selling points was it was so graphically intense it couldn't possibly run on a console. By the time it releases a phone will be able to easily run it.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

the game might actually run on the new PS5 console because of their high read and write speed on the SSD and high CPU core count.

[@agentoftheccp9958]

@@SETHthegodofchaos storage has nothing to do with performance. High core count doesn't really matter. Most games are mainly single core intensive. High core count only matter when you can do actually work which you can't do on a console.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@agentoftheccp9958 CryEngine is very CPU intensive and CIG made a lot of the code multithreadable thats why high CPU core counts (like AMD Ryzen) actually perform better than some of the Intel ones with high single core performance. So yes, SC and SQ42 will run well with more cores. Storage capacity has indeed nothing to do with performance, but storage speed does. Since SC and SQ42 is continuously streaming data from drive into memory and vise versa, SSD is highly recommended. The new SSDs in the PS5 is very fast and is build directly toward such high bandwidth streaming cases in mind. Which will benefit SC and SQ42. So SQ42 should be possbile to run on the new PS5 console hardware.

[@davidrigdonrigdon4848]

bold of you to think this game will be well-optimized enough to run on a phone

[@Alovatololo]

@@agentoftheccp9958 the type of storage does matter. SSDs have much better read speed than HDDs. This mean fast loading.

[@tiavor]

I feel like this needs a part two at some point in the future.

[@darksuns7384]

Yeah just got a link from a friend showing that Star Citizen is selling land grants for their game that doesn't exist.

[@broomguy7]

Much like the game, that will never be released.

[@XBullitt16X]

I agree

[@Carnyzzle]

Dark Suns It's amazing how they're doing this shit when they haven't even released the singleplayer yet

[@crzces7500]

Carnyzzle It is insane how they have passed $200 million usd and instead of finishing milestones set years ago, Mr Roberts (or his leads) cannot stop adding, and adding, and, have I mentioned adding? With no publisher it is Chris’s job to act in that capacity, and say “Stop. Finish what we have. Once it is done, polished, we will go live. We have enough money for 18 months. It needs to be released, along with Squadron 42 before then. If not, you are all out of a job, and my wife and I are probably bankrupt and in jail soon after. Let’s get to it!”

[@highspeedheadbanger]

Its 2020 Star Citizen has raised over 300 million dollars, making it the most expensive game in history the games still isnt out of Alpha and they just deleted the roadmap *everything is fine*

[@TheFallinhalo]

and just last week they announced their roadmap for a Roadmap for a video game

[@Juwce_86]

@@TheFallinhalo I cant wait to pay money for the DLC for the roadmaps roadmap!..

[@JohnSmith-op3qj]

These people are really out there pulling a Yandere Dev and getting away with it :v

[@JJokerMoreau]

It's not pay-to-win if there's no win condition.

[@nightwisher02]

@@JJokerMoreau Pay-for-advantage then. Call it whatever you like, coupling fundraising to handing out ingame assets in what is supposedly a huge scale MMO that ostensibly features a complex player-driven economy is a sleazy strategy at best, and will almost certainly come back to bite them in the ass. But without this monetisation strategy, they almost certainly wouldn't have raised as much funds. Not that it matters though, a promised-feature complete, release candidate version of star citizen becomes increasingly less likely as the years drift on with underwhelming progress updates, and feature creep continues to anchor the project down.

[@FredrikKnudsen]

Full disclosure: I am a backer for Star Citizen with a Reliant. I did my best to give both sides of the controversy and limit qualitative assessments. I admit that I'm heavily biased when it comes to Star Citizen; I'm a big fan of it and I'm eagerly looking forward to its release (whenever that may be). Though this was the longest video and the most labor-intensive, it also was the easiest due to the well-categorized information and video about it. I hope you enjoy!

[@btoiscool]

Which Reliant you scrublord? :P

[@FredrikKnudsen]

Kore. My brother and I want to go space truckin' through the stars together.

[@FredrikKnudsen]

Oh, also! To address your notes: I was calling it "Star Citizen" still at that point because that's the name by which people know it, and I didn't want to have to introduce the fact that there were two different games so early. They asked the backers to vote on whether or not to continue crowdfunding, but it seemed like they were poised to do it anyways, so I just stated that it continued. I know the Bengal is the largest, I was more referring to what they had shown in-engine. I definitely could have been clearer about that, though. I know that number of ships pledged doesn't equal backer count, which is why I specified that it was the number of packages purchased. I was working off of the number of "Star Citizens" on the website, which, as I understand, doesn't directly correlate to number of backers. I know vertical slices aren't necessarily representative of all features, otherwise I wouldn't have called it a vertical slice. =P The mention of missing features was to put it in context.

[@btoiscool]

Fredrik Knudsen I accept that, Kore is teh bestest :D "I was calling it "Star Citizen" still at that point because that's the name by which people know it, and I didn't want to have to introduce the fact that there were two different games so early." Eh, well.. okay, fair enough. I personally would've said it's different, and then would've explained it later. "They asked the backers to vote on whether or not to continue crowdfunding, but it seemed like they were poised to do it anyways, so I just stated that it continued." CR seems to like to take the will of the people by heart, even putting up a second vote at 40 mil(?) to see if people still wanted crowdfunding, and there was still a majority for yes, and therefore, it still continued. "I know the Bengal is the largest, I was more referring to what they had shown in-engine. I definitely could have been clearer about that, though." They have shown the latest version of the Bengal, multiple times now, in Starengine. In fact, iirc there's a whitebox for the pegasus, and the Javelin is almost as far along as the Idris from what I understand (it's going to be in the first ep. iirc), so that would put the Idris at least at #3, if not #4 if you count the pegasus, not #1. "I know that number of ships pledged doesn't equal backer count, which is why I specified that it was the number of packages purchased. " This number is not released. The 1.1 million you referred to was the backer count.Star Citizens has nothing to do with the amount of purchased packages, as the number of Citizens does not increase with the amount of purchased packages, but rather it increases with the amount of paid backers. A single backer can buy 800 packages and it would only move up by one once that backer becomes a paid backer. "I know vertical slices aren't necessarily representative of all features, otherwise I wouldn't have called it a vertical slice. =P The mention of missing features was to put it in context." Missing features is inherent to vertical slices. It's a milestone in development, it's not meant to show all of development. That's why what you said was contradictory.

[@joesgotmore]

Nice I got a Reliant Kore too...Mainly because I fell in love with the design and wanted an inexpensive "Multi Crew" ship. I own 2 other ships. An Aurora LX and my Avenger Stalker. I don't plan on getting any more ships primarily because I want to work at earning those ships in game. Although It doesn't stop me from entering contests and raffles to win ships. ;)

[@Spencer481]

Commercial space flight has literally developed into a industry since this game was announced

[@TheMarc477]

Yep for the money some people spend on this crouwd funding you could litteraly fly to space

[@Luthiart]

When this game comes out, it won't be science fiction anymore.

[@aadipattanaik7778]

I can’t breathe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@secretly3652]

Underrated comment

[@friun.6824]

this game is already fiction

[@guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248]

Thats a good one.

[@camerons8935]

You win

[@KillingSpreeXLWDGNG]

This is your daily reminder that backers have literally passed away from natural causes before this game has reached completion.

[@brucciwaynemusic876]

@D. A. lmao I'm sure some have man. Sad

[@MaakaSakuranbo]

That happens with kickstarers that are a week old

[@dc9662]

I used to work at an online audio retailer, and would regularly have to cancel orders that had been backordered for months. One day I took a call from a woman who was calling to cancel a backorder for her husband that he had been waiting to be fulfilled for an EXTREMELY long time (I want to say about 18 months, but I could be misremembering). As this was no problem, I went through the cancelation procedure, and had to ask her about the order to fill out the required form. When I asked her "What is the reason you are canceling the order?," she sighed, and took a very long pause. Her husband had been sick for some time, and had died the week prior. I was stunned. I said that I was sorry for her loss, and as I processed the cancellation, I made a mental note that if I ever took ill, that I'd wait till I recovered before putting my money down on a backorder for a Rickenbacker guitar.

[@Anonymous-x1x]

I find it interesting that they're are now possibly hundreds, thousands, if not millions of dead Steam profiles from people passing away. It's sad, but it happens.

[@siddbastard]

Yea, people now also leave a digital corpse behind. Until the day when we can upload ourselves in the Cloud, this will stay reality. Maybe ppl will stop worrying about release dates if we achieve Immortality, eh ?

[@WarlordRising]

Can't wait to play it in 2030 when the engine is outdated, and they have to go back in to update everything from scratch.

[@livanbard]

oh buy that reminds me of starmade. lol

[@lgvereor]

Remember Titanfall? That was a 2016 game on a 2004 engine. Age of the engine has literally nothing to do with it's longevity, especially with current engines that are entirely modular and updatable, of which Star Citizen's has the technical backing of the largest company financially on the planet.

[@digitalnomad9985]

Basically Star Citizen is driving the development of the Lumberyard engine.

[@skornie123]

Im not against ambition in games but it sounds kinda sketchy when somebody promises "the universe".

[@Rubberduggie21]

remake lol na, theyll just announce star citizen 2!!!

[@ComradeCage]

"Star Citizen fans' hopes have never been higher." *checks date of video published" .......uh oh.

[@queeblo545]

@@GomulDart cope

[@Bigslam1993]

Yeeeah, this kind of needs an update. Nearly 10 years and no final release in sight.

[@GomulDart]

@@queeblo545 crybully

[@LucaxCorp]

@@queeblo545 - Cry more.

[@theclash24]

yeah I always rewatch this video as I am a SC backer and just forget it about it now and than...but damn...target date 2014?! It is still broken never ending Alpha in 2021 sheesh!

[@juice6521]

Projected release date: 2014 *Inhales*

[@Jogeta5]

That was before they asked backers if they should continue with the basic version they were developing or go beyond. 80% wanted them to go further and make something more than just another space sim.

[@uhmmmFU]

Scam Citizen lmao. Did they really expect to just "use a modified version of crytek engine" and not get fucking sued?????

[@Tazytots]

@@uhmmmFU Need flash. CryTek lost. There was nothing in the contract that kept CIG from moving to another engine. CryTek just wants money.

[@Rob_Moilanen]

Actually, Summer 2020 it's scheduled for beta!

[@fmartingorb]

Just another one stuck in 2014 when it is 2018

[@you_just]

We got a new Half Life game. No Man’s Sky was developed, released, vilified, and completed a redemption arc. America got a new president. The Elder Scrolls VI was announced. And this game still isn’t out.

[@Starplaya]

Elder scrolls 6 will be out before star citizen 😂

[@AzureRoxe]

American elections happened at least twice since Star Citizen began production and development in 2011. The only game that even came close, LAST YEAR, to Star Citizen's total costs was Star Wars: The Old Republic. Star Citizen has now far surpassed Old Republic since the cost is now over 300 million.

[@semuta2752]

Two new presidents as of today

[@adamwalkervfx]

Don't forget we're still having an entire pandemic.

[@solortus]

You're forgetting that death stranding and cyberpunk was released

[@supereldinho]

If Duke Nukem Forever has taught us anything, it's this: It doesn't matter how much time, money, people or effort you spend on something; if you don't have a clear vision of what your project is gonna be like, you're essentially just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

[@DjangoLowe]

They have a very clear vision the issue is that had to create a tool set, ramp up a company (including hiring of over 500 developers), polish for every major batch (which no game developer does until release), make interim gameplay, react to things that don't work (yes all game developers do this you just never hear about it). Also DNF had a clear direction, there issues where related to the publisher and the developers no being able to agree on the vision.

[@denzelnganga1914]

@@DjangoLowe And add 50 thousand new features

[@kos2919]

And in the end it's still crap on the wall

[@j11mz16]

@@denzelnganga1914 they are gonna have 16 times the detail tho...

[@Donnerbalken28]

@@DjangoLowe Nah Man. Chris ROberts is just an incompetent idiot running a ponzi scheme.

[@JeffTheBunnySlayer]

A member of a guild in one of the games I play was one of the Star Citizen crusaders who tried to pitch the game’s features to us and rope us all into supporting it, we found the best response was “Sounds neat, I’ll check it out when it launches.”

[@MunyuShizumi]

Hi. I time-traveled from 2173 to let you know that Star Citizen will have finally been released as an Epic exclusive. However, after taking the reviews into account, I'm having a hard time recommending it over the Elite 9 remaster or upcoming World of StarCraft expansion, there's certainly better ways to spend $39K. I suggest waiting for next year's Steam release which should also lift the Mars region lock.

[@hiddenshadow2105]

Is Venus still censoring all double-thruster ships in your year?

[@necktiefox2917]

Did Emperor Quib-Quib of Proxima Centauri build that wall and make us Earthlings pay for it yet? Have A.Is finally been given the right to gay marriage in Russia? Has DSPhil FINALLY reentered the workforce?

[@MKhrome]

Dude, what timeline are you from? It's 2250 here and we just got alpha 3.78 which patched in elevator button system 15.6 and added a new jpeg. They said Pyro is coming some time next year!

[@sammiller2637]

Can I get some winning lottery numbers?

[@Lambda_Ovine]

So we won't live in a post-capitalist society then?

[@salsamancer]

No Man's Sky was announced, launched, struggled and redeemed. And this "game" is still not out.

[@OpticalShadow]

and i doubt it ever will be. There have been rumors for awhile about the finacial state of the company. The issue is, they burned though it all, and they need backer money to stay afloat, thats why for years the progress people see is solely ships being added to teh game, and new ones sold. if they cant keep money coming in it all falls apart, but if they keep focusing on selling ships to make money, theyll never be able to complete anythign else. over 200 million and what we have is a poor dog fighting place with a few very basic quests.

[@dominicgunderson]

@@OpticalShadow They're making good progress while still raking in buckets of cash. If you've done any research they've added a lot more then just ships to the game.

[@SC-ce3vp]

@@dominicgunderson if you've done any research the game blows.

[@dominicgunderson]

@@SC-ce3vp I've been following the game actively for about a year now, and I can guarantee I'm more informed about the project then you are.

[@SC-ce3vp]

@@dominicgunderson doesn't mean the game blows my dude.

[@emoboywill]

A new half life game was announced before this game came out. Let that sink in.

[@ip4501]

Someguy279 no it wasn’t

[@kenpenders363]

@@ip4501 yes it was that vr one

[@gutterwaif]

wait, what?? Really?

[@junoguten]

Far as I've heard it's new areas, not just vr-ization of an already existing game launched as a new game like Bethesda likes to do.

[@primus0348]

Half life Alyx XD

[@eternaldarkness3139]

March 2021. $350,000,000 raised That's enough to pay for: 7 actual people, to board actual rockets, and fly to actual space. Plus it wouldn't take an actual decade to do it... Edit: October 2022, now: $500,000,000 (10 astronauts) Thanks LonelySheepling.

[@MakiNoAtorie]

At this point it wouldn't surprise me if this game is a cover for money laundry scheme or something.

[@At0m1c_At0m]

@@MakiNoAtorie the devs seem to want to make an actual space game. But Roberts and the higher ups just want money, money, and more money. Its honestly sad

[@vastowen4562]

Oh my god out of all these comments that is the worst The fact that seven people could actually go to space for the amount that star citizen squandered to fail in making a simulation is absolutely damning

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

@Ringingking73 They don’t have higher-ups. They have an owner (who is inseparable from the project due to everything going through him for final approval), and they have their dev teams. This is not a massive company like Bethesda. This is a company set up to make one game and has successfully made its customers it’s primary investors.

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

That’s the economic model that pieces of infrastructure sometimes use to keep themselves funded indefinitely.

[@GhostHacker55]

Since throwing away $45 on this as a sophomore in highschool, I have since 1. Graduated from highschool, 2. Moved to Germany for a year, 3. Gone to college, 4. Fallen in love with a woman I thought I would marry, 5. Dropped out of college, 6. Horribly fuck up that relation, 7. Gotten my EMT cert, 8. Start working full time in another field because EMS pays nothing, 9. Changed jobs multiple times, 10, re-up my EMT cert and others, and 11, move twice and generally do a ton of other things. What the fuck.

[@halcionkoenig243]

You realize the average game takes 10 years to develop when you make an original game? Oh right, I forgot you're a Millennial, where you think releasing the same Call of Duty game every year constitutes "a full development cycle."

[@vito_k6479]

@@halcionkoenig243 are you going to reply every fucking comment in the video? and assume that people play ""millenial"" games?

[@malas.7276]

@@vito_k6479 fanboy simp who needs to protect this game at all costs maybe

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Halcion Koenig No, no it doesn’t. Most games take about half that time to develop (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_development#Overview)

[@MunyuShizumi]

@@halcionkoenig243 Funny, Google translated this to "VR games have *on average* been in development since before consumer VR existed in an alpha state.". Also, remember when we went from Commander Keen to Wolfenstein 3D to Doom (1&2) to Quake (1&2) to Quake 3 Arena within 10 years with like a dozen employees? Which also included developing 3 revolutionary engines at the time? Remember when Warcraft (1&2), Diablo, StarCraft, Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, and World of Warcraft were all released within 10 years? What about when we got Baldur's Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights, Star Wars: KotOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age: Origins all within 10 years? Now tell me which one of those 3 lists is worth less than shilling so hard for Star Citizen that we're embarrassed for you?

[@Lenerelene]

I wonder which game is going to get finished first: Yandere Simulator or Star Citizen

[@elhumbo7858]

A battle for the ages

[@felipecosta-kv2fx]

None, the universe is going to reset before both of them get finished

[@Xtoff]

Yandere Simulator, but not the janky horrible 20fps coding mess that YandereDev made. From what I remember the source code got leaked so everyone could see the rat's nest he created. Then 2 guys with coding experience decided to remake the game in a proper language and they got more done in a couple weeks then YandereDev did in years and without the crashes and bad frame rates.

[@proudtobeme1ashkente]

Probably Star Citizen, since YanDev is gonna kill himself once the more competent version of his game gets released by a completely different dev team. At least, that's what he'd like to make people believe.

[@morethan30characters20]

_The Race is on_

[@thegrouchization]

If it comes out with all of its promised features, I think it can be safely be said that it'll be one of the best sci-fi games of all time. The problem I have is in that first word.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

When Philip of Macedon threatened Sparta, he warned them, "If I win this war, you will be slaves forever!" The Spartans replied only with, "If." It's a powerful word, that if.

[@romulusnuma116]

thegrouchization if most games came out with everything promised they would be great but all most all don't.

[@marztar]

Even IF they finish it. They have clearly realized that fools be gullible. Everything shinny in the game will cost a hell of a lot since idiots are OK with paying exuberant prices for something that is not even guaranteed. Once the game is out it will be standard practice to put prices in the K mark. You watch.. a pair of boots: 10K. The whole suit: 30K. A matching dildo to take in the ass while you're bent over.. FREE! But lube infused with gold glitter: 40K.

[@ectothermic]

The don't have any obligation to do anything, money keeps flowing in, they have no proper direction. It's basically Final Fantasy XV except Tetsuya Nomura got a kick in the head and told he had a fucking deadline after development was restarted several times. This dev team doesn't have any of that, and they have no need to set a deadline because they have virtually unlimited funds to do whatever the fuck they want to. No Man's Sky knew they had to release something, and they did, they instead of delaying the game more opted to release a rather shoddy first impression but kept working on it and improving it until, now, it's a pretty good game, making good on a lot of its initial promises. No Man's Sky has no obligation, and clearly, no intention to ever be finished. The game is the fundraiser, there will be no game.

[@vetobandito]

i love the reaction " if it works itll be the best thing ever. if it doesn't anyone who wanted it to come out is a moron" go fuck yourself.

[@t.servo55408]

It's 2020 and last week someone STILL tried to convince me this is about to drop any month

[@book3100]

Say hi to Crow for me.

[@HarenunHoppus]

Someone wanted to make me spend 100$ so I can play the game.

[@TheRealFallingFist]

It's out now, for $45.

[@GomulDart]

Youve been able to play it since 2015. It gets more and more stable and fun every month. Try it out

[@GomulDart]

@@HarenunHoppus You can play the game for as low as 45$, or just wait till the Free Fly events which are pretty often, then you dont have to spend a dime. These days its actually pretty content rich and stable both performance wise and server stability wise.

[@sparda9060]

UPDATE: It is the year 3021. Star Citizen just released its latest patch Alpha 54.2.3 . They announced that they will be releasing the Beta version within the next 10 years. So far the pledge funding has raised is $1.234 trillion dollars. You can pledge to a special package that contains all 45,432 ships, 10 space stations, 5 moon bases, and 4 planets in the Andromeda galaxy for a low low price of $500 million dollars but only if you have pledged at least $50 million dollars already.

[@saintq3888]

OMG are you Batman ?

[@Commander800]

Lmao, even as a backer I found this hilarious!

[@DanateDMC]

Wait, you can't just do Star Citizen irl yet? I am dissapointed in youth.

[@davidkennedy1077]

Hahaha!!! So funny and so true, and still this sad cash grab grinds slowly on. I watched a bit of CitzenCon (even they admit it haha) 2018 and it was still the jerky, glitchy mess that it was several years ago!!!

[@FriedHeggis]

Was this adjusted for inflation?

[@thefruitsong]

"The projected release date... Was 2014." I literally said, "Oh shit, here we go."

[@ichbinein123]

Not to gloat, but I am pretty sure you'll realize soon enough why the game has pushed back it's release dates, and that you'll definitely want to join it once it becomes more and more feature complete. You're not needed to back it beforehand, but don't dismiss it outright before it's final release.

[@ragnarlodbrok4181]

Prefers switch over best game in the u-ni-ver-se

[@roflturkey6513]

Deus Vult Sorry but the best game in the universe isn't even out yet. So hold your tongue you idiot.

[@cypren9521]

What confuses me is how Elite Dangerous, a game with a much smaller budget, could create a much more stable, much more optimised and a much more complete game, in the same time. I feel Star Citizen will either never be released, will fail, or will he a huge disappointment.

[@datachu]

I’m sure they’ll be a controversy or two over some missing feature when it eventually gets released, but for a game that promises so much, such is inevitable. I have a feeling they will release SOMETHING though. Just because it guzzled obscene amounts of money and was delayed many times doesn’t mean it won’t succeed. Plenty of games like that have ended up fine in the end (though admittedly, very few of them were crowd funded or indie), people just like to talk about the ones that didn’t because they make for better stories. Personally though, I won’t loose anything if it fails, I’m not a backer, but I have a friend who is and he’s told me he has high hopes for the game as of late. I don’t see this project as having many of the more obvious telltale signs of inevitable crowdfunding failure (which don’t include delays, BTW, that’s just how all campaigns go), but as always it could go either way.

[@TempestDacine]

"People will pour in any amount of money to be right" Lord if that wasn't the truth.

[@halcionkoenig243]

Yeah, I still can't believe Destiny cost over $500,000,000 to develop. Who the hell spends that kind of money on a game that isn't complete? Oh, I hear that Anthem just made over $150,000,000 in digital micro-transactions last year! Hey, how's that new Modern Warfare game doing these days? I hear it's all the rage with the kids... again.

[@enfield_the_enigmatic2989]

@@halcionkoenig243 None of those games were publicily funded projects, that's the issue people have with Star Citizen. Besides Destiny and Anthem weren't exactly good games.

[@typie34]

@@halcionkoenig243 Also Destiny didnt spend 500 million just on production, alot of that money went straight to bungie as part of the exlusive deal with activision and it was a big payment. the actual cost of the game was probably around 150 million which is still a huge part, probably also 100 million or more on marketing.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

Ironically such statement could be change to fit onto the critics/naysayers as well: "People and their intellect will find all sorts of reason to feel or be perceived as being right by others" The hardcore critics them to have become more of a cult, because they themselves do not stand for anything themselves and instead just dont want to be attributed with traits they deem CIG and Star Citizen to have (incompetency, emotional, irrational, dumb, ignorant). The hardcore critics fear-monger, confirm each other and giving each other attention more than doing anything else. If thats not cult like behaviour then I dont know what is...

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@halcionkoenig243 Pretty sure the 500 million was for the entire franchise plus their marketing, not just the first game and its development.

[@MDTako]

5 years later: Star Citizen still hasn't been released and you can still buy digital ships for a game that won't come out on their website for close to a grand each. Meanwhile, No Man's Sky has improved greatly and delivers on what Star Citizen can't, mainly being released.

[@itsalmagest]

It was laughable when Star Citizen tries to compare themselves against NMS & Elite Dangerous, while both of those games started to get better and better while Star Citizen still hasn't release anything yet There are difference between Developers that cared about their games and Developers that cared about their greed

[@zoltanz288]

@@itsalmagest speaking of NMS, is there anything to do in space now? i havent checked the latest version cuz NMS bored me to tears.

[@itsalmagest]

@@zoltanz288 Not much, just that new outcast thing. I don't play NMS that much, i'm more of a Single Player games

[@GomulDart]

why cant I walk around on my ship in NMS? Why cant I multicrew ships with friends in NMS? Is being released more important that being fun? I like NMS but its almost a completely different game from SC and this comparison is pretty weak. The only similarities is setting and even then its very different.

[@crystllclr3743]

@@itsalmagest they are two totally different games. Not defending sc but nms is boring as hell after you build a base. Every system is populated so its hardly exploration. Once you get you town and frieghter theres nothing to do you already havent.

[@RyoCanCan]

We got a new Tool album before Star Citizen came out.

[@PixelGod240]

It was trash aswell ;( so. Sad

[@bernebelmont1857]

My Chemical Romance reunited before it came out

[@CalebHimself]

@@bernebelmont1857 My cringe romance

[@chrissawyer1484]

KISS is doing another fairwell tour before this came out.

[@arootube]

Valve is releasing a new Half Life game before this comes out.

[@morningnapalm9963]

& this is why schools/jobs put such huge emphasis on deadlines.

[@halcionkoenig243]

I agree with this sentiment. Anthem had a deadline, and it turned out just fine. It's not like 10 year development cycles are normal, and companies deliberately hide this information from the public, because they're ignorant sheep that don't know better.

[@enfield_the_enigmatic2989]

@@halcionkoenig243 bruh Anthem sucked

[@baldhead7759]

Connor Reichardt I think he was being sarcastic unless I’m wrong

[@enfield_the_enigmatic2989]

@@baldhead7759 He's not, he's been in pretty much every single reply thread in this comment section trying to defend Star Citizen with arguements like this.

[@GeeMannn]

@@halcionkoenig243 is CIG paying you to shill for them so much? Please grow up

[@Grinnar]

The guy who is the owner of that company blocked me on Twitter when I asked "How is Star Citizen still a thing?" Didn't tag him or anything. Just posted the question. Talk about being a sore sport.

[@SC-ce3vp]

That's just Twitter.

[@halcionkoenig243]

You don't even know how to read Twitter's bullying policy, and you expect anyone to engage you in a conversation. Read IMDB, and send a tweet to someone on SQ42's page for your answer - www.imdb.com/title/tt5194726/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

[@pacman10182]

@@halcionkoenig243 "How is Star Citizen still a thing" is bullying? kiddo, get your ass beat on the bark chips and then get back to me

[@kenetickups6146]

Halcion Koenig "Waaaaah waaaaah muh siber buwwy"

[@Grinnar]

@@halcionkoenig243 you've a very piss poor understanding of bullying. I literally didn't tag anyone with the post. I did tag Randy Pitchford once, and that got nasty.

[@MrJetairliner100]

Star Citizen has now cost more than the Empire State Building in New York City. Empire building construction cost: around $637,000,000 million USD (adjusted for inflation). Star Citizen: $662,919,394 USD (at time of writing) It took less time and money to finish a skyscraper than a space themed video game. Is it comparing apples to oranges? Yes but that just puts it into perspective how much of a financial black hole this game is.

[@axongear9650]

Reading the comments every few months is how I stay up to date on the "game". It's still not out

[@aturchomicz821]

me too!

[@sponge1234ify]

It's still not out

[@SeanCMonahan]

Big update! June 2023, Space Citizen releasen't

[@AStrategyGameDev]

Gonna open up a business for all Star Citizen backers. I will offer to Cryo-freeze them now, and then unfreeze them upon game release

[@Enigma2Me]

2000 years later...

[@toaster9922]

they’re never gonna get out

[@adamplentl5588]

In the future, there are entire secondary economies responsible for supporting the backers for this game.

[@JimmyEatDirt]

Its foolproof. All you need to do is freeze them then dome them with a .44 and keep the thousands in profits

[@candylich6005]

That’ll be pretty easy because you don’t actually have to cryo-freeze them, just kill them for the same effect!

[@josephgarfield3363]

It is the 40,000th millennium, Chris Roberts is kept alive by a great throne, star citizen is still in beta.

[@seasaltlover]

7 years almost from when this video released and it's still not out. As of less than 24 hours ago, they have raised $616,272,619 so far from total donations. And they're saying they are "feature complete" and "moving into the polishing phase" but can't give a release date window yet. According to Wikipedia star citizen is the most expensive game to be produced, and it has yet to come out.

[@yuhan4469]

if the devs went quiet and didn't provide updates would you be satisfied?

[@YouSoSpice]

@@yuhan4469 immensely, for that would mean they ran out of dumb idiot whales and jumped the ship (haha get it)

[@evil1by1]

​@@yuhan4469if the spent all the time they spend yammering away about things they want to do just doing the things they needed to do, itd be out already and those features could still come out as dlc as they are finished Less talk and lot more action

[@Bunker_Bird]

Meanwhile even Mount and Blade Bannerlord released on Steam

[@encinoman903]

Half-Life: Alyx released, as well.

[@encinoman903]

@Zura and YandereSim lmao

[@encinoman903]

@Zura nah yansim will never come out. The guy building the game is more interested in taking advantage of his community.

[@encinoman903]

@Rock Golem Yes. SC's dev is married. Can confirm pictures of his wife online. Yandev isn't married. There's a very good chance he's a palm-pilot distributing literature about rolling dice.

[@UnknownGamer40464]

@Zura bro it only took 6 years to add the first major antagonist. Give him... like 50 years and the game'll be finished.

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

Notable events after the release of this video: -Crytek suing Cloud Imperium; -Move to a new game engine after the lawsuit mentioned above; -Cloud Imperium releases the 27K dollar ship pack and the 1K paywall. Definitely asking for a second part. It may not happen this year, but the content is still enough for a lenghty video.

[@Daniel-vg5ld]

Also the next update that made no mans sky a viable contender

[@nickcrawford6723]

Anything can be a viable contender if it actually exists as a finished product

[@fg09403]

oh? the only things I saw on the suit was leanard french's coverage and that made it sound like it was going squarely in the dev's favor.

[@hellboy6507]

One does not simply switch the game engine

[@floormatt3]

@@hellboy6507 They will never switch the engine. If this happens, there are two outcomes: Crytek wins possession of the game, or the game is never released with no reimbursement to any backers unless lawsuits are pursued.

[@dragonkyng]

“Would fill the void left by ... no man’s sky.” Yeah but that released and they’re still updating it. Plus they didn’t take MILLIONS from Kickstarter.

[@tomfoolery2913]

By this point no man's sky has filled the void left by no man's sky

[@savior_protector1721]

Nms is crap. They totally deviated from the original promise and made a space minecraft. Pathetic

[@Kirisapostle12]

@@savior_protector1721 the original idea was a space Minecraft what do you mean? Going to different plants and farming materials was the core point of the game

[@savior_protector1721]

@@Kirisapostle12 the original idea was to travel and explore. That was all, the premise was simple but the core gameplay was supposed to be very specific. Hello Games even stated that they didn't want players remaining on one planet and that they wanted you to keep exploring. Resources were to keep your ship running and for trading. There was originally no concept for building, crafting, farming etc.

[@Kirisapostle12]

@Gonzales Davey seriously.. Any game with the slightest of building,exploration or randomly made map... Its just Minecraft with quirks in their opinion

[@abedprime]

Moral of the story don't buy something that is not yet finished

[@chainsawplayin]

So true

[@flynnlivescmd]

Yep! But most people are dumb and will keep throwing money

[@unknowngod8221]

@@flynnlivescmd so you choose dead

[@treehann]

Early Access is a shit model

[@unknowngod8221]

@@treehann i meme that

[@mr.meloetta1939]

Take note of how this was _before_ they added the $27,000 ship pack that you couldn't even buy unless you donated $1,000.

[@Rebellions]

So a $28,000 ship pack. I have several questions about this 1) who the fuck has that kind of money just casually laying around? 2) who the fuck has that kind of money just casually laying around - that *wouldn't* prefer a share of that company and a cut of the profits for a "donation" of that size? This is not me disliking the game or its creators, if they can deliver, well shit it looks exactly like the sort of thing I'd play. This is me questioning *who* is individually bankrolling this game so hard that he/she wouldn't basically be an untouchable space-god from the word "go" when/if this game comes out. Furthermore I cant see such a person having much fun with the game for more than a couple days *because* there is no challenge for them with everything unlocked from day. I do not get this. Am I missing something?

[@svampebob007]

@@Rebellions yeah I don't get it either, I hope that people who would go for this "pack" has also invested in massive shares... or else this would just be a stupid, stupid, stupid idea.

[@KingHalbatorix]

it's probably similar to a phenomenon in the mobile game industry wherein certain players are calledwhales, it's startling how much money mobile games make off of just a few dozens of people who account for almost all of the profits from microtransactions. For the exact opposite of this effect you can look at warframe. It's a free to play PC game with microtransactions, and one of the things they introduced was a means to purchase a skin for your pets where the appearance would be randomized on each purchase. Someone used the transaction more than 200 times and the devs at that point ripped the feature out of the game completely, because they hated how they had essentially created a slot machine unintentionally.

[@Quandry1]

@@KingHalbatorix I got to say I was always impressed that the makers of WarFrame have spent more on going work updating, upgrading, and adding to their free to play game than most pay games have bothered to do in even a quarter of the time that WarFrame has been running. There were graphics updates to the Xbox one version they didn't even really put all of in the patch notes for example that added some interesting details and that was just last week.

[@rinnnnnnnnnnrinRinOnishi]

@@danc3868 god I wish I was one of those people. I'd at least donate the money or something. Not give it to these guys

[@Sara-jh8jj]

the general trend with these kickstarter MMOs has been 1) visionary person, often some canonized saint of a particular genre, has idea that appeals to nostalgia, 2) visionary person assumes too much authority, 3) visionary person keeps saddling (usually inexperienced) team with increasingly absurd demands to drive up interest in the project, 4) the team, paralyzed by anxiety, mounting cynicism and lack of direction, is able to accomplish little; most of them are painfully aware it will fail and just want to hold onto their jobs (and their dignity) for as along as possible. It feels like they're always taking the process one day at a time, stringing an increasingly dwindling donor pool along, trying not to acknowledge that they'll bottom out eventually

[@equidistanthoneyjoy7600]

Bottom out eventually, yes, but honestly this looks like a pretty secure career. I checked just now, and they're making 10's of thousands of dollars an hour. If they pay their employees a fair wage of something like 25 an hour, then even on the low end of that scale they can easily pay several hundred employees. Most projects like this aren't being pumped with more and more money, but the amount they're currently making is truly obscene. Since a current 7 year delay hasn't scared too many people off, I don't think that gravy train is stopping any time soon. Honestly, barring a major recession, those people are probably very secure in their jobs for at least another 5 or 6 years and maybe even more.

[@Krystalmyth]

Feels like a pyramid scheme if it were shaped like a cube. A borg cube.

[@drygnfyre]

This describes the game Daikatana perfectly. It was announced in 1997 but not released in 2000. Its entire marketing was it being the brain child of John Romero. During development, he kept expanding his design document, he changed game engines, and promised release dates kept getting pushed back.

[@numbr17]

Except for the fact that Cloud Imperium have actually delivered a LOT of amazing things already, and it is STILL looking like it'll likely be one of the greatest space sims ever created...

[@numbr17]

@@Krystalmyth Have you SEEN the actual content that Cloud Imperium have given to the public? The game is far from complete, but it is looking amazing. It still looks like it'll be one of the most amazing space sim experiences ever.

[@RiskOfBaer]

This video could've been made yesterday, and it would still be accurate. What a disaster.

[@machinegaming6426]

It would be nice to see a successful class action lawsuit for all the money these assholes have swindled.

[@anonony9081]

@@machinegaming6426 you don't have that right when you donate to a kickstarter. That's all it is, a donation and shouldn't be seen as anything else.

[@narev6569]

I guess that answers my "Did this game ever get its act together?" question. I think the problem that arises when these kickstarter games blow up is that they make some gamer CEO instead of someone who knows how to run a business. How do you even piss away $138 million?

[@machinegaming6426]

Ano Nony That's only true if a standard of good faith is met, which in this case has clearly not been.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

@@anonony9081 actually kickstarter doesn't simply allow the money to be dismissed as a "donation" otherwise it would be the legalization of fraud. But more money has been raised outside of the kickstarter than through it.

[@nejdalej]

We got a new Spanish Flu before we got Star Citizen.

[@undeadwaluwugi758]

@Rock Golem ironic

[@princess4509]

@Rock Golem this is perpetuating xenophobia please stop spanish flu is a historical term but “kung flu” is racist and coddles the confirmation biases of racist I understand you mean to make a joke but it’s best not to when people are being attacked on the street for simply being asian please call the virus COVID-19

[@princess4509]

@Rock Golem i think you completely overlooked the part where i said “the spanish flu is a historical term” yeah it wouldn’t hold up today i’m not saying that’s the right name for it i personally disagree but that flu was over 100 years ago that’s the name for it by the books the name for covid is covid by the books grow a pair of fucking balls and put your big boy panties on and stop being a twat “kung flu” is racist “spanish flu” is historical it’s not a fucking debate it’s facts.

[@princess4509]

@Rock Golem you’re so unbelievably numbskulled to even attempt this argument like i didn’t anticipate that shit and CLEARLY POINT OUT YOUR FALLACY IN MY COMMENT that’s not even a valid fucking argument you sound pathetic trying to justify your shitty misplaced racism

[@princess4509]

@Rock Golem i didn’t say it wasn’t fucking racist

[@axelmilan4292]

The year is 3255. Star Citizen has finally entered open beta.

[@svampebob007]

with a 52.3Pb pre launch patch, and the developer decided to roll back from open beta, to closed pre alpha. Key are available for 39k Galactic credits.

[@alexanderfolger7344]

Maybe a closed alpha

[@Dueilangoisseus]

There'll be no open beta for Star Citizen. They have armies of zealots that will gladly play guinea pigs for them, and the zealots have even paid them to do it.

[@viking8796]

Chashmodai Agreed. If people don’t believe this, they just have to check the comments in this video’s section. So many blind fanboys. Fanboyism is a disease.

[@anditard]

@@viking8796 ikr. Scary if you think about the people behind the comments

[@brunofenix6953]

Backers have died, probably reincarnated, and this game still hasn’t come out. Damn.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

Imagine some developers have died too. Now show some respect to these people!

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

Also with such an logic, nothing would be ever okay to take longer than 1 second, because someone always dies somewhere in the world.

[@third-ratedude4234]

@Gonzales Davey I have been Reincarnated to Another World, Got a Harem of Beautiful Monster Girls and Defeat the Demon King While Waiting for Star Citizen's Release Date™ Anime adaptation coming soon

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@Sk801Erik Nice of you to assume who I am and what I do and try to insult me with. Shows me more about what you care about than anything else.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@Sk801Erik is everything ok?

[@akrybion]

So what will happen first: Half Life 3, Winds of Winter, Doors of Stone or Star Citizen? Trick question, the actual answer is: Heat Death of the Universe.

[@Saasquash2000]

First will be the annihilation of our species

[@whussung]

I hope it’s doors of stone... come on Patrick

[@marco4149]

I'd put my money on Winds of Winter.

[@baronvonfaust]

10/10

[@OrangeHarrisonRB3]

Hey, Heat Death of the Universe is the name of my space sim on Kickstarter!

[@Cassian0.0]

Sounds like the people behind Elite Dangerous got tired of waiting and made their own Star Citizen

[@alexn8219]

Lol, not comparable

[@Krystalmyth]

Elite has its own pedigree.

[@yaysun8854]

Here in late 2019, the game still isn't out lol

[@maulcs]

Not even close

[@charleseternal1751]

😢

[@angryman132]

Honestly it was a god tier scam

[@yaysun8854]

I bet it will get super close to final release and then they'll add VR or something lol

[@vrbro2022]

@@angryman132 You all are very dumb, the game has come a super long way since this garbage was posted.

[@hondaguy9153]

Just pulled up an article on this game that was posted 15 hours ago. The game has raised $340 million. Wtf.

[@Speedojesus]

It's one of the largest development budgets since the entire industry's inception. Like holy fuck. Even with 10 years and one of the biggest budgets in gaming history there's still fuck all.

[@dragons10000]

They could be masking themselves as a gaming company so they can "raise" money and launder them.

[@EcstaticObsessive]

for comparison, it would cost roughly $220 mill (and the same time limit of about eight years) to fix the flint water crisis.

[@jothain]

I have a feeling that those figures aren't even close to real. I think they're just "show" for people to get hyper more and more and get new people on board. It might look convincing to some that this has gathered amount X of money. I mean I have never seen actual financial reports about this game. For sure it has made a lot of money, but those figures? I don't buy it, no pun intended.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@jothain Dude, they literally had to legally make their financials public. Stop with the retarded conspiracies to feel like you have a point... you look pathetic when doing it.

[@ciknay547]

End of 2019 update. No Man's Sky has since turned around and regained player trust. Most of the promised features have been added, in addition to many other systems. The game continues to be supported with new content. Likewise, Elite Dangerous continues to receive content and patches, improving the core gameplay. It's far more difficult that NMS, but has made attempts to streamline the learning process. The reviews remain mixed, but mostly because of how tedious the game can be. Star Citizen however, just held an exclusive fundraiser event (that cost $275 for a plate) for those that spent over $1000 on the project, to announce a $675 ship. And it's still not finished.

[@KingcupXI]

Who would not spend thousands of dollars for some jpeg?

[@mutinyontheark]

@ここを見ろ、見ろ聞け。 I wonder what the small talk was like over dinner. Were they unironically holding on to the dream and hyping each other up, or were they like a battered wives club trying to console each other?

[@readifdumb]

I don't agree with their business strategies at a fundamental level, but in the grand scheme of it all, people are literally funding the future of space sims for others to enjoy for 40 USD. When looking at it this way, I do not mind. I think that it is the pricing is quite insane, and I would think anyone insane who would spend that much, but that falls into the hands of that person to make the decision.

[@crazyd4ve875]

@@readifdumb forsen

[@PartnershipsForYou]

No mans sky still isn’t finished tho lul

[@gramorsinium8372]

2021 update: No Man's Sky is amazing, most of the promised features are delivered, Hello Games keeps making the game better. Star Citizen is still in development.

[@JasonX1996]

No mans sky is more impressive than what ever this is going to be just because of the cost associated.

[@KrikZ32]

No Man's Sky is definitely better than Star Citizen, but it still feels like a mediocre repetitive game with not a lot to actually do

[@TheAlmightyAss]

@@KrikZ32 mediocre game is better than no game.

[@KrikZ32]

@@TheAlmightyAss "better than nothing" is a pretty low bar. Star citizen exists and is playable in a mediocre form.

[@sodanakin]

​@@KrikZ32Tech demos are not games.

[@drksideofthewal]

Very well done. You showed more professionalism in this video than a lot of news sites.

[@neuromancer6218]

That's not very difficult

[@pussypasta64]

And yet...

[@MoltenSnowball]

The universe Star Citizen is trying to simulate will become reality before this game is finished.

[@acreepykiwi6788]

Star Citizen is simulating humanity's development into the UEE in real time

[@halcionkoenig243]

You people are the exact reason why Game's Corporations hide their projects from the public until a year from the release date: how long was Destiny's development cycle again?

[@karandras2854]

@@halcionkoenig243 It's about deadlines, you must establish a strict progression path or all your game will turn out to be shitty, look at Mount and Blade 2, the company was lazy af because the Turkish Gov paid them extras, they are still working on a game that was supposed to be ready and moddable 2 years ago. At last modders will make this game playable, SC is doomed, It has no direction and no future.

[@viemarirunoa]

​@@halcionkoenig243 69 years

[@Starplaya]

Let that sink in: GTA 5 cost rockstar approx. 260 Million Dollar (including marketing and advertisement). Star citizen already got MORE MONEY than gta 5 donated and it’s still not even in the beta. What the hell is going on with all that money ? The game should be out by now

[@serialvapist5807]

Last time I let that sink in he shit on my couch and kicked my dog. He was a good friend, but until he kicks his addiction I'm not letting him in

[@junegorminproductions]

@@serialvapist5807m me

[@fuckyoutubeassfuckyou7751]

The backers will respond back by saying "oh but the game will be so much bigger, it will be like LIFE itself" or some other variation of the same bullshit, by the time this game ever comes out nobody will care anymore, or be so disappointed by the game not living up to the impossible hype built up over a decade

[@wesma8000]

@@fuckyoutubeassfuckyou7751 im pretty sure we will see actual suicides, when this piece of shit finally get's cancelled

[@nathanizabeast]

Would it be better to release it unfinished?

[@Beanibirb]

Another update: Star Citizen has now amassed half a billion dollars in crowd funding, and the game is still in an alpha state. This game will never fucking release.

[@187Streak]

We will travel through space before this game gets relased.

[@CabezasDePescado]

totally

[@seancascanet3428]

Weve been doing that since the 60s lmao

[@TryPuttingItInRice]

@@seancascanet3428 Sending someone to the moon once every 20 years and sending robots into deep space isn't what OP meant when they said "we will travel through space."

[@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786]

@@TryPuttingItInRice If that's all you think we've accomplished, your knowledge of space travel is painfully limited.

[@TryPuttingItInRice]

@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 Your knowledge must be extremely limited if that's what you thought I meant.

[@HazyJ28]

Can you do a "one year later" update video, picking up where you left off here, and covering whats happened in that year?

[@PartnershipsForYou]

Hazy J good idea

[@marztar]

He could do a yearly series and pass it on to his kids actually... This game will never be finished. It will end when gullible fools finally realize they got had and they muster up the courage to launch a class action against the devs. Which will then be great entertainment for the rest who saw the writing on the wall from the beginning. HA!

[@uncleebenezer8599]

Here's your update: It's still a scam and will never release

[@ectothermic]

That would be a bad idea because the rabid fanbase will eat him up if he says anything remotely negative or even neutral, and he stated he was a backer so if he says something hopeful again he'll get eaten up by the other end of the stick. Bad look either way, and honestly, that's fine. Just let this dumpster fire die.

[@tacticalbondsh]

He would if they actually made any progress on this "game"

[@sparda9060]

UPDATE: As of today Star Citizen has raised $187,313,575. Thats right 187 million dollars. Its still in Alpha stages after 7 years of development. If this isn't bullshit to anyone or seem like a scam to anyone, they are probly a pledger lol Most triple A games doesn't even cost that much.

[@ninjapenguinpirate]

Holy shit.....So.....why does he keep getting money for this "game"?!?!?!

[@qmechkeys]

5 years of development not 7

[@aidenjones4194]

The problem is they want to keep improving it. At some point they’re going to have to realize that is you constantly improve it, you’re never going to release it

[@qmechkeys]

@@aidenjones4194 did you know that you can improve the game after you release it since it's a PC title?

[@velox4439]

Triple A titles are cheaper and faster to make than an MMORPG and Single Player Campaign complete with celebrity motion capture

[@PhileasLiebmann]

Once more I make my annual pilgrimage to this timeless classic. Literally timeless, because it's now 2021 and it's still accurate, there have been no other releases, nothing. I'm just mind boggled how this could ever be allowed to happen. Or what the devs are thinking for that matter. Like, what's the plan here? Delay until all the initial Kickstarter backers have died of old age? Edit: It's 2023, this video is still up to date.

[@jerichot6616]

Its 2023 November 2nd, pyro is now out on PTU, base building, colony's, jump point magma and terra, multiple new ships and Squadron 42 is being finalized. Things are good.

[@masterofthelag8414]

2024, still all accurate. Game is still not out.

[@masterxak]

I actually like Lord of War. didn't know it bombed.

[@AGrayPhantom]

Same here. That's bizarre to learn. The recent Tom Cruise movie, American Made, seems similar to it.

[@bloodmoonangel8925]

masterxak I fucking loved Lord of War, too bad it was a financial failure. Then again, there are movies like "Moon" who are works of art, but attract merely a cult following.

[@captainunderpants200]

Lord of War was great, but Lucky Number Slevin was even better. I had no idea Chris Roberts was behind either of them.

[@kruth6663]

Agreed, it's pretty good, worth seeing

[@EpicCoolGuy21]

Slevin was good too. Idk why it was received so poorly and did so financially terrible.

[@MerchantIvoryfilms]

Incredibly well researched! I don't understand how your channel isn't swarming with subs. Ive been following SC for a while and you have given so much info i never knew about!

[@orvilleredenpiller338]

A CONVENTION FOR A GAME UNRELEASED. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

almost like passion and determination can move mountains, and not the finished mountain-mover.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@Mr. Obunga sponsors, subscriptions, tickets.

[@animelinkup2529]

Check Tennocon, their game, "Waframe" is still in beta but they have an annual convention...

[@moredetonation3755]

@@animelinkup2529 it's been out of beta for like 2 years now

[@kiliosai]

@@animelinkup2529 Warframe is atleast playable and released unlike this scam.

[@TheBattlesword]

You gotta admit, this game did provide me with one of the best purchases I made in a while... ...when I bought Elite: Dangerous after I learned it was the exact same game but real and playable

[@shanechannel7066]

supporting Star Citizen is like being in a bad relationship. No matter how many times your lover disappoints you, you are willing to forgive and forget so long as they keep promising things will get better.

[@ChillstoneBlakeBlast]

Aren't you suppose to break yourself from an abusive relationship though

[@thatwhiteguy5541]

Sounds like dating a borderline

[@TheSoulHarvester]

yes, giving money to a guy who promised to make you an expensive toy is exactly like being abused by a loved one. gamers are bad at metaphors AND personal hygiene.

[@SR2XO]

I mean, I backed it years ago, tossed it $60 and have the mindset of if anything comes of it good, I'll get that email if it happens.

[@anon4u]

@@TheSoulHarvester silence, femail. we "gamers" (as you seem to use as a pejorative...heh) have been through far more then you will ever imagine...

[@KaeYoss]

8 years and counting. They want to challenge Duke Nukem Forever, it seems.

[@equidistanthoneyjoy7600]

It was in development before the announcement. We're looking at about 11 years now. I'll honestly be surprised if they beat Duke, they've already changed engines at least once and that's always a bad sign.

[@Daysleeper1990]

The year was 3045, Scientology finally merged with Roberts Space Industries. Chris Roberts had used the backer money to not only preserve his life with an ultra advanced prosthetic set of organs but bring L Ron Hubbard back to life. They were eagerly waiting for the return of Xenu and the release of Star Citizen Beta 0.2

[@meinname5788]

Daysleeper1990 will they CLONE Cruise and Travolta? Xd

[@Daysleeper1990]

@@meinname5788 of course but that is for the motion capture on Squadron 45 the second single player stand alone that will be released in the year 3062 exclusively for the iPhone.

[@ttvmikimoto5379]

Get ready to be sued 🤫David Miscavige is always watching

[@AlanaBananaCanada]

This comment gave me nightmares

[@__Razer]

I need a continuation of this video. It's been 5 years and this is pretty much where my knowledge of the project stops before and after watching the video.

[@KakeiTheWoIf]

Star Citizen likely would be unable to be played by the time it comes out. The obscene glut of content that would be present would take up an enormous amount of file space and the bandwidth issues would be extreme.

[@thomasjoyce7910]

@@KakeiTheWoIf If they were serious about solving that problem they would have to invent solutions from scratch and test and iterate them which would take a lot of time and resources but would revolutionize online gaming and therefore be worth it but who would fund such a thing with their own money? There might be enough avid online gamers eager to see it happen but how would they pool their resources and get it done? Oh. Wait.

[@obi-wankenobi1036]

@@KakeiTheWoIf Not really, we now have terabyte USB drives and 312TB/sec internet capabilities

[@gairisiuil]

@@obi-wankenobi1036 LMAO 312TB/SEC

[@numbr17]

This game is REALLY coming along. It has surpassed some pretty huge milestones recently, like the ability to demonstrate that they CAN complete the server meshing tech, and they can complete it soon. It is honestly looking very bright right now for Star Citizen.

[@xxCrazyIzzyxx]

3 years later and No Man's Sky and Elite Dangerous have both been released and arguably been remade into much better more in depth games than their original conception. Star Citizen still does not exist.

[@legodude137]

It’s 2018 and still no star citizen.

[@BiigiieCheeese]

there's a 200 gb Alpha that requires an ssd minimum. this game will never be finished.

[@FlyConeGuy]

Patience... Patience is the key.

[@DwAboutItManFr]

It took so much time now that i'd be glad if they spent more 10 years on this.

[@kvltovfreki6020]

It'll be yet another Duke Nukem Forever case where the game is stuck in development hell for years only then for the remainder of their budget used on advertising a broken and lacking in features in the hopes that people will be gullible enough to fall for yet another No Man's Sky or Sea Of Thieves, which they will, because people are stupid, never learn from history and will always be doomed to repeat it.

[@evanequilibrium9065]

the alpha isnt 200gb and you dont need an ssd...i play with plenty of people with hard drives

[@almost9people]

Funny that no mans sky is now widely accepted as what it should have been on release, and Star Citizen still isnt released.

[@arthas640]

Didnt they announce that they're producing a second game for Star Citizen and they still havent even finished the first? This seems like the worlds slowest ponzi scheme to me.

[@YouDonkeyfu]

@Arthas Menethil Yet, somehow it is still working.

[@controlschemekeaton]

For a game thats been in development this long, it barely runs on my relatively beefy PC. I asked reddit why this was the case, and they blamed me for picking a starting location that has bad performance. That's a perfect representation of their cult like fan base for you.

[@Zukerpucker]

to be honest though i think that's more just reddit then any particular game lmao.

[@CadgerChristmasLightShow]

Gotta love when legit criticism of a game is responded to with "you're playing it wrong, idiot". What a way to convince me to play your game lol. The first sign of a shitty game is optimization so bad that certain parts of the game are unplayable.

[@thanethegreat]

Update. As of September 24th 2019 the game has not been released, it seems that the game will cross into the next decade unphased Update 2: as of Christmas Day 2019 a new teaser for squadron 42 has been released, but there is still no word on a release date Update 3: as of november 2020 the game still has not officially released. Update 4: As of July 16th 2022 The game remains in Alpha Update 5: As of April 2023 The game is still in alpha, with no sign of a release

[@Kabodanki]

It's not meant to be finished

[@mycelia_ow]

@@Kabodanki clarification: It still has yet for any build of the game to be available publicly

[@Ryan-B]

@@mycelia_ow the game has been playable for a very long time, and is getting frequent updates

[@viking8796]

Fanboyism is a disease.

[@valletas]

Why do we need all of these ships in the game? Just finish the game already and add things after release just like other games

[@sparkle_stacs]

It’s 2020 now and the game still isn’t released

[@AleczDj]

its barley anything in the game xD check the SC road map, its a joke.

[@halcionkoenig243]

It's 2020, and you sheep still don't know that Star Citizen is called Squadron 42, and has an IMDB page. www.imdb.com/title/tt5194726/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

[@Alovatololo]

@@halcionkoenig243 Are you 100% sure about that?

[@Eldoradoll7]

@@halcionkoenig243 Squadron 42 is a game part of the Statcitizen universe. The beta version is supposed to be released at Q3 of 2020, they already have 3 versions of the open-alpha. You can already download some of their game-play, which is good, I guess.

[@lukasr1166]

And we'll wait until 2025 at the very least

[@monkeydoesnotpaytaxes]

No Man Sky's redemption arc is the turning point that Star Citizen needed.

[@switchplayer1016]

Somebody else put it best. No Mans Sky was released, panned by everyone, and had an anime redemption arch during this games dev cycle.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

NMS is still a grind fest, the only redemption that happen were the developers because they kept at it instead of giving up despite all the hate, not the game itself. They showed they cared more about their passion than butthurt idiots on the internet. I hope CIG can do the same...

[@shepardpolska]

@@SETHthegodofchaos NMS is a playable game now instead of a lie (misunderstanding?) it was before. But as for the Star Citizen, I got myself a copy last year during a free fly event. Is the game finished? No, but it was and is really fun to play with. Not saying people should buy it, but as far as I go I am sure even if the game won't release I will get my moneys worth out of it before servers shut down. I do hope I live to see it released though xD

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@shepardpolska NMS definitely needed more time to be realized to be the vision it wanted to be and advertised itself as we see now with the contiuously releasing updates moving it toward that vision, but the publisher didnt give them that time. So whats the difference between Star Citizen and NMS? Theoretically, NMS could have also went the kickstarter route instead of a publisher and iteratively added content to their game while players could play it in an alpha. They are actually not that different. I understand and agree the argument that Star Citizen still has very limited gameplay loops compared to other games in that genre. But that has a reason: CIG did not prioritize gameplay since 2015 because they are waiting for underlying software systems to be completed. That included Object Containers, Server and Client Side Object Container Streaming, now Static and soon Dynamic Server Meshing with Item Cache, Persistence and Physicalized Items and Inventories. Most of the gameplay loops in SC utilize these systems, If CIG would have released gameplay loops already then they had to touch each and every one whenever a new foundation software system comes online, using up valuable time and resources that could be spend elsewhere, e.g. SQ42 which e.g. does not require Static and Dynamic Server Meshing.

[@shepardpolska]

@@SETHthegodofchaos Yep, I agree with you. It takes time to build the fundation for what star citizen wants to be

[@JJokerMoreau]

This was a scam. I'm not saying it won't come out. I think there's some serious advantages for the creator to actually seeing this finished. What I AM saying, is that the way this was marketed and sold is the most anti-consumer thing I have seen, that far, far exceeds what EA has ever done.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Hey, at least EA delivers half-finished "early access games" on time.

[@ervandrafadhlil403]

@@DonVigaDeFierro and atleast youtuber could make a new content for crapping out they shit game all the time

[@GomulDart]

@@DonVigaDeFierro What do you want exactly? Do you want half finished, half baked, games, or do you want devs to actually stick to their product and make it a decent game, regardless of how long it takes?

[@JJokerMoreau]

@@GomulDart I think we all want, is to be sold games and not an idea of a game. People sell ideas through stocks and investors, yet these days they instead offer you 'digital goods' as benefits. Which no US court recognizes as having real world value (which is why Loot boxes can't fall under gambling law just yet). This man hoodwinked millions of people into buying into his idea, and because he didn't do so through the proper channels, consumers have zero recourse against him or his company. Unlike investors, we don't get to demand proof of their work, and get no say in what he or his company does. Thus, it's a scam. Believe it or not, pyramid schemes *have* resulted in people that bought into the idea getting rich. This doesn't mean it's not a scam. The means is JUST as important as the Finish of the product.

[@GomulDart]

@@JJokerMoreau ok, just because star citizen sells digital merchandise doesn't mean it's a scam though. Literally hundreds of games do that. AND there have been hundreds of games started and sold as 'ideas'. That's like half the games off Kickstarter sites. they are ideas.. they are raising funds. The facts of the matter is star citizen does not qualify as a scam in any meaningful way. There is a product there. Even if development is slow, they are transparent and consistent. They are very clear that their development is slow. They aren't misleading anyone, no ones money is being stolen. Both legally and literally, it is inaccurate to call it a scam, pyramid scheme, or any other kind of scam. You are just lying to yourself and regurgitating bad info you got from tabloids. Like what is the condition that qualifies this as a scam again?

[@fabulog7010]

It's weird how I've never heard of this game at all, seeing how it was one of No Man Sky's biggest competitors, and I saw that entire controversy go down.

[@kiva02j]

It's probably because No Man's Sky had a massive controversy and tons of people talking about it while this has been staying on track for the most part so not as much news coverage. It's not hard for big games to fly under the radar of people.

[@ectothermic]

I'm pretty happy with my purchase of NMS now, I'd considered rather briefly to invest into this game and instead decided NMS looked more realistic despite the hype. Now, with a few updates and some actual hard work and direction NMS is really enjoyable despite its rocky release. Can't say the same for this though. At some point you gotta realise a $27,000 microtransaction for systems that don't even exist yet is a little bit much. You could buy everything in Battlefront several hundred times over for several hundred people before you got to that number and you'd get better space battles at the very least.

[@TK0921]

As a person that has absolutely no stake in star citizen (I haven’t put any backing money into it or anything), I look forward to when (or if) it fully releases. I have hope that it could be pretty cool. That said, if it doesn’t come out I’ll just keep playing Elite. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Tzilandi]

Speaking as someone without any investment in StarCitizen, I'm still very interested in its development. Not because I want it to fail or succeed, but because I want to see if Roberts can rewrite the book on games development.

[@rebellucy5098]

The problem is though it looks more like they've released a series of tech demos for separate games. Not only that but they keep burning all the money and hype keeps dying. Eventually its more likely it will teeter out and die entirely.

[@Alpha-kt4yl]

It has been about 5 years since you wrote that comment. It is now clear that Chris Roberts has not even read the book of game development, let alone being even close to being able to rewrite it.

[@kingjoe3rd]

This is my second watch of this video. The problem of "Star Citizen" still exists. It is sad that the backers can't see that this guy has gotten too comfortable with the complete lack of expectations that they allow him. It is no longer his fault, it is theirs.

[@acreepykiwi6788]

'Bro it's just an alpha chill it's allowed to be bad'

[@halcionkoenig243]

If only Star Citizen was the Multiplayer Sandbox, and there was a Single Player Story Driven version that it was based on! www.imdb.com/title/tt5194726/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

[@Sakisasvictorianmask]

@@halcionkoenig243 Which isn't out either?

[@sirsnakespeare]

@@halcionkoenig243 give it up deelish !

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

"complete lack of expectations" I think you have not been around the project a lot because the expectations are extremely high for this project. And CIG trying to realize them is what takes so long, not them being lazy or incompetent...

[@eagleeye5189]

Its been 6 years since this video came out. No Man's Sky has become one of the best spacefaring games I've ever played without charging a dime beyond its initial purchase price, while Star Citizen still offers literal thousand dollar ships for a game that, as of the last free flight I tried out, feels like a tech demo.

[@Katie-hj5eb]

Based on what I've seen it doesnt seem like there is much to do outside of being a space courier in Star Citizen. Let's hope Starfield can fill the gaps.

[@Xazamas]

Allegedly, some people claim that they've gotten their money's worth just from the Alpha. I hope these people only paid the base price for access back during Kickstarter instead of spending thousands.

[@theepicduck6922]

@@Xazamas The whales are happy to whale.

[@yossarian00]

@@Katie-hj5eb lmfao

[@Mitachia]

Who is watching this in 2018 and laughing their ass off?

[@youtubeisapublisher6407]

I would be laughing if I didn't sink cash into this hot mess back in '15. Luckily it wasn't very much cash, but still I feel stupid now in hindsight.

[@mikezbr]

live an learn, shit happens

[@nickcrawford6723]

Oh i definately was the second he talked about a ship that was so big you were basically guaranteed to get lost in it AS A GOOD THING. What kind of brainwashed insanity is that where you get excited by a poorly designed ship?

[@bob13513]

@Electro_blob eve is a sandbox

[@ectothermic]

This game needs a ball pit and like... a pissing feature. With realistic physics. And fur suit preorder packages.

[@RUDY-COLEMAN]

2020: Trump re-elected 2100: China establishes one world government 2459: world war 7 ends, China destroyed 3054: human colonies demand independence from nu-earth 6044: dark age of technology 35,000: imperium of man established 6 billion heat death of the universe 7 billion star citizen finally gets canceled despite $500 septillion budget 500 trillion dark syde Phil can no longer support him self making videos and is forced to 're enter the work force

[@kingnro1]

Poetry

[@thelastmethbender]

haha

[@BIack0ut23]

WingsofRedemption finally lost wweight and gave up Pepsi.

[@RUDY-COLEMAN]

@@BIack0ut23 39,564 wings becomes a space marine

[@noahprice3464]

Gundam would love this comment.

[@andresrosa2352]

Well done, very balanced and well explained.

[@peccatumDei]

I second that. This video is far and away the clearest and most balanced summary of Star Citizen that I have seen. Given that the game is a moving target, I hope there will be updates to this video from time to time. When friends ask me "What is Star Citizen?" this is one of the videos I will recommend that they watch.

[@MoonlitWood]

It's funny to think that 6 years down the road, that Steam score for No Man's Sky would do an about face, meanwhile Star Citizen is still chugging along.

[@Ybw420]

THIS WAS 3 YEARS AGO, NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE.

[@Zarrx]

the alpha is out????? playable flying, mining, and fps stages.

[@Ybw420]

@@Zarrx all of which have been available half assed 6 years, ago. The fucking pos game should be out by now. I pledged 9 years ago.

[@Ybw420]

@@maxwelkleinmusic nobody wants 500 half baked system trapped in perma alpha for 10 years, we want a finished product in a sane timeframe.

[@TaurusOxford]

@@Ybw420 That's some long-term buyer's remorse.

[@Civerius]

@@maxwelkleinmusic Sorry, adding systems while current ones are unfinished and unpolished is called 'regress'. I think you confused the terms.

[@m.streicher8286]

I thought Lord of war was actually pretty good if not taken to seriously.

[@ydoomenaud]

I CAN'T SELL THAT GUN NOW

[@themexicankitchen]

As is all Nic Cage movies

[@anewspinonthings]

M.Streicher yea i like that movie. It’s just a fun film

[@yognaughtswifter]

Biggest mistake here is so rudimentary that my father taught it to me before i entered any form of education. "Always promise less and give more" This single sentence of knowledge is almost enough to get you anything you want. An example from life is my music career. I cannot begin to count the amount of times i have used this to my benefit. From blowing peoples minds at a party or getting to play my own shows. When someone asks me if i can play I always respond "A lil" and set their expectations low then i proceed to give them the best possible preformance I can far exceeding their expectations. I said that " it is almost enough to get you anything you want" although there are two major things you have to do alongside it. The first being you have to put in the work to far exceed a persons low expectations multiple times over. The second and most important part is that you have to stay true to yourself. while that might seem contradictory to the whole thing being that you intentionally set expectations low it does not matter if you far over preform their expectations and are brutally true to yourself after the slight deception.

[@jonruss2718]

Revan Himes self-aggandize much

[@marcar9marcar972]

Revan Himes the problem is crowdfunding is based on promising more.

[@AlanaBananaCanada]

Yer daddy is sexy

[@PosthumanHeresy]

AKA the Scotty method from Star Trek. If it's going to take you two hours, tell them it'll take you six and do it in whatever it actually takes. You'll get a reputation as a miracle worker.

[@peppermintmiso4341]

No Man's Sky got announced, released, fixed, and redeemed itself all within this game's development-- heck, Cyberpunk 2077 might just do that too! Now wonder if YanSim can beat it

[@JK-gm6kk]

This comment is interesting, given what's come out about yandev the last couple months

[@KingRumar]

Hey everyone, it's March 2020 and guess what? We had an entire Star Wars trilogy release as well as about to hit Jurassic World trilogy likely by next summer and if this releases before the game comes out....

[@k.morningstar7983]

it's 2021 you don't want to know what's happened in a year

[@archer1949]

As a filthy casual, these forays into the insular, cultish world of hardcore gaming culture are fascinating to me.

[@thegreygoblin5165]

as a hardcore gamer, it saddens me but dosen't surprises, fans can be dogged in their loyalty for better or for worse.

[@bevvvy1374]

Gaming sucks dick right now play the good shit and try again in a couple of years

[@RobinTheBot]

It's a curious place gor sure. I grew up in it, so I am not sure what the outside looks like

[@steampunker7]

The worst part is it's the gamers doing it to themselves. Call me an old fogie looking back with rose tinted glasses but I remember when you played games for fun. When you bought a game you bought the game, for good and for ill. Yeah there was tons of shovel ware. Yeah the console wars skewed people's perspectives and some series drifted into franchise zombie territory (looking at you Mega Man.) It wasn't perfect by a long shot but one would have expected that either industry as whole would learn from its mistakes or players would get more savvy about what they pick up and play. Nope. The industry itself has bloated into a money sucking machine that can, and will, milk every last dollar from its consumers with as little return as possible. Consul games push planned obsolescence in their hardware and control gimmicks as they release either half baked one and done pre-owned bin fodder or installment 483 of a series that hasn't done anything really new since Clinton was in office and in some cases weren't really that good in first place (looking at you Sonic.) On the PC side pre-order bonuses, DLC, and in game monetization bleed players for cash while delivering half finished games you need to wait at least month to play so they can release patches, all the while justifying the micro transactions needed to progress in the games they themselves made grindtastic in the first place or insisting the costs are needed for programmers and developers who they routinely shaft. The indie scene fairs a little better but is glutted with shovelware and has far too many kickstarter backed fiascos than should be rationally allowed. Mighty #9 springs to mind. We Happy Few is probably the most recent example. And all the while the gamers themselves throw scads of cash at all of them to keep up with the latest releases, hoovering up only different in the name versions of FPSes and multiplayer match games, sucking down nostalgic franchise installments regardless of quality (looking at you again Sonic), throwing rage fits at critics who don't give glowing reviews of their title of choice while gleefully and willfully wetting themselves at pre-rendered trailers and smoke and mirror shows at the conventions. Yeah, Sturgeon's Law does apply. 90% of everything is crap and some things don't get their due in their day. And yes, there have indeed been some solid titles released that deserved the accolades and profitability they received. But to put it bluntly, the hooker doesn't actually like you. She doesn't care how much you compliment or praise her. She doesn't care how long you've been coming to her or how much she means to you or even if you like what she does or not. She just wants you to give her money. So long as you do that she'll smile and shake her goods at you and give you a wink and maybe a pat on the head. It's not her fault your bank account is empty, your due in court for solicitation charges, your wife is leaving you, and your balls now itch. Now replace hooker for games industry and that's pretty much where the gaming community is right now. And the yet they keep going back to the hooker like this time things will go differently.

[@bevvvy1374]

@@steampunker7 I'd say it's not so much the "game community" doing it to themselves rather than a bunch of casual people who started getting into games and it resulting in this. I mean, gaming used to be a nerd thing, but now you'd be hard pressed to find any guy who doesn't own a console. I doubt any serious person who's been gaming for a long time now, actually wants micro transactions in their games. Companies are just appealing to the masses with disposable income, which I can't really blame them for considering it's been working so well. Also I'm not sure what indie games you're looking at to consider them shovelware. And kickstarter fiascos aren't very common to my knowledge

[@_faultee_]

Remember when we asked what will be better, No Man's Sky or Star Citizen? We got our answer, neither.

[@remberthisemail]

Remember when people with small attention spans tried to play No Man's Sky? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[@harbl99]

Trick question! The answer is Eli-(second half of this answer is unlockable DLC content: $10 pls)

[@fakiirification]

No Mans Sky is decent now, it actually makes star citizen look sad and funny when you see how far hello games has been willing to go to fix their game and satisfy their customers. NMS even makes Elite Dangerous look a little anemic with their trickle of minor content updates.

[@kos2919]

We got new answer now, it's actually No Man's Sky! Yeah I was surprised too, but they did it, those mad men did it!

[@ectothermic]

Yeah, actually. Dunno about Elite Dangerous but No Man's Sky is decent now after several patches. This game's still not out of Alpha though.

[@thenulledone0000]

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad" Knowing what happened between star citizen and no man's sky, the opposite is true

[@adamwalkervfx]

Don't forget Cyberpunk

[@killerkitten7534]

Yeah that quote doesn’t really age well in an age where you can release a game and as long as it’s updated and working well eventually people will still praise it. Hell with games like NMS I feel like they actually got more praise for sticking with it than they would have if they just released it working right off the bat

[@thatlycantomboy]

Surprised I never heard about this game... it’s insane how this thing spiraled and _keeps spiraling_

[@Dj.MODÆO]

ThatLycanTomboy it’s also insane how many people still defend it.....even after Forbes magazine exposed that the executive producer quit in protest 4-5 years ago after Roberts used millions of the crowd funding for SC, to buy himself a mansion in Pacific palisades California. Roberts wife took over the position, and now only god knows how much of the funding was misappropriated in the last 4 years.

[@Ivytheherbert]

You probably never heard about it until now because it isn't a game yet, only a marketing ploy.

[@zain6037]

Derrick smart, more like... Um... Derrick... Dis-smart... Got him.

[@YouSoSpice]

Damn.

[@cjohnson2916]

Someone get Derrick to the hospital, that burn was at least 2nd degree.

[@JBob08]

Nailed it

[@CunningCondor]

Tool will put out a new album before this game is released.

[@Nightdare]

So will Michael Jackson, Prince and George Michael

[@gamesmithy]

so will the Beatles

[@dameonyusuf3098]

@@Nightdare too soon

[@RahubaatNeteru]

Dr Dre Detox

[@anirudhviswanathan3986]

Proton Jon will finish his Superman 64 lets play before SC gets released.

[@finnyjam8252]

23:03 I love how basically no game, no matter the budget, seems to have made better facial animations than half life 2

[@Theshabadaman]

La Noire

[@meditalisoo7]

the last of us Part 2

[@tylervanpeursem7627]

Dark souls fans when none of the characters even move their mouths (this is coming from a souls fan)

[@GooberMagonk]

Whenever he says, "The creators wife" I was immediately hearing spinal tap, when they are talking about getting a new manager, and the guy is pitching his wife or fiance or something, and his bandmate says, "Oh it's not your fucking wife is it?"

[@encinoman903]

I bet she's been embezzling the donation funds since day 1. From what I saw here, she seems like the kind of person who would. I'll take it further and bet that she's the dominant one in their relationship and he does whatever she says or gets beaten/manipulated.

[@GooberMagonk]

@@encinoman903 I can't assume anything about it. What I will say is that involving loved ones in business is a mixture for great failure and heartache.

[@anthonymaslow798]

@@encinoman903 that's an astonishing number of really incredible, reckless suppositions. I'll make one of my own, but with far more evidence, given your baseless accusations. You strike me as a rather sexist person with issues about women. I don't have a penny invested in this game, so I'll cut off any "star citizen cult" defense of yours. You're comment is pretty repugnant given what you really don't know.

[@cerberusmutt4252]

There's a series, Sunk Cost Galaxy, that has an episode about how Chris's wife is the manager. We haven't gotten a new episode in a few years, and honestly i'm worried for Boocha's health, but what we do have is quite extensive and I reccomend it.

[@WobblesandBean]

I don't see this as a scam. I see it as a well meaning yet narcissistic game dev, who has no business acumen or leadership skills, refusing to compromise on anything. I've seen it again and again and again in this industry, and it's bankrupted too many small studios to mention. Sooner or later, you've gotta know when to step back and call it done.

[@RahubaatNeteru]

It's a scam.

[@ninjapenguinpirate]

It's a total scam. 187 million dollars. Where the hell did it all go? Who spent that money and on on what because it certainly wasn't spent on making that game. I've seen their presentations at events like E3 and videos how they make it look like there's more going on than actually is. They're thieves and liars selling a digital picture of a ship (that's not even in the damn game) that people will never get.

[@DynV]

Say he's slightly idiotic, wouldn't he wake up after so many refund requests and so much bad press? Edit: I realized after increasing their refund deadline limit, they removed the refund altogether. It's a scam.

[@TowerArcanaCrow]

Scam. Their refund policy is ass backwards, they're begging for enough money to buy a car with to support their game which has been delayed about 100 times already, and they sic their rabid fanbase on anyone they dont like.

[@Crowley9]

Sigh. This sounds so sadly similar to Double Fine's crowdfunding to Broken Age. Seems to be a problem having its source at creative types running wild with ambition and not enough managerial elements keepings things to some kind of plan. Also, wow, Derek Smart. He is quite a character. Among other things from what I've seen, he easily blames critics of his work of racism (he is black), and claims to possess a doctorate but nobody has found any evidence of the existence of his doctoral thesis. He has consistently refused to provide even basic information about it, such as at which university he completed it or who was his supervisor.

[@Omnicrom]

The short of it is that Broken Age had issues with cashflow and development time. The Kickstarter was in 2012 for a 2014 release, but in 2013 it came out that Doublefine's design trajectory was they that they wouldn't be able to finish before 2015 and by then they would have run through their kickstarter money. As a result they outsourced a chunk of development (Art and Animation mostly) to a different studio (Supergenius), and then split the game in half with the goal of releasing the first half and then using sales of it to fund the second half. It was honestly a gamble, if the first part of Broken Age hadn't been a success there's a chance there wouldn't have been a second part. That was mostly what I remember people being up in arms about, they had backed a game and then Doublefine rolled the dice on releasing only half of it. In hindsight Broken Age was a success that gave the people what they wanted for their money, but if it had gone another way it would be another cautionary tale of a beloved developer brought ala Mighty No. 9, and nobody wanted that.

[@MrTigerlore]

On behalf of Dr. Smart, I’m here to inform you that your comment is racist. How dare you question his doctorate. You wouldn’t if he was white. Or asian. You think he can’t be a doctor since he’s black? Check your... 😆... check your privilege😂. Racist.

[@Bagginsess]

*(star citizen seems very different from any other crowd funding game, I believe they truely are well in over their heads but that they will pull through. it looks and sounds fucking amazing)* if this is any consolation, i myself am working on a game and plan to crowd fund it... however i plan to actually have a working prototype akin to PUBg but without the bugs and incompleteness. the way i see, the money should be used to advance the game by hiring a team to fully flush it out, not just to make the damn thing "playable".... i wish more people cared about honor/pride and the like instead of rushing something to make a living. it's all well and good to feel the need to profit off your skills but i've always been one to put work before money. i just don't understand a situation like this: *at a highschool reunion* "what do you do for a living?" --- "well i made a game and then released it before it was finished and make a fuck ton of money of it, now im retired" ---- "oh cool what's it called?" ---- "no man's sky" maybe it's cause i was and am a musician/artist first and foremost so i don't see the point of trying to sell a half-ass piece of shit that could of been so much more. imagine if tolkien treated lotr as such...

[@MrTigerlore]

SPIDERMANBATPIG hey buddy, great post. I’m a musician/artist as well. What’s your game about?

[@Bagginsess]

as much as i'd love to talk about it and not seem like a cocky dick... i really don't want to divulge anything. if you can trust me just know that it's gonna be everything you'd want from a game the most i can say is that it will look and play like a AAA game, it's probably way to ambitious of a project

[@Rickbearcat]

All of the questions that you have asked in this video are still unanswered. And even now, 5 years later, more questions have arisen. Why no government legal agency (i.e. California Attorney General) is not involved in the companies affairs by this point amazes me. Somehow, this company is escaping the forensic scrutiny that it deserves.