The battle of Roslin, Scottish war of independence 1303 AD

The Scottish war of Independence was a conflict fought between the kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland as Edward the 1st of England sought to subjugate the kingdom.
Edward is once again invading Scotland, but before he personally leads his army he sends another army to secure parts of Scotland under the command of Sir John Segrave.
Part four of a series of video's on the first war of Scottish independence and the History of Scotland.
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Sources-
Scotland's First War of Independence: A Chronicle of the Struggle Fought and Won by Wallace and Bruce
Freedoms Sword, Scotlands war of Independence.
The Wars of Independence- BBC Scotland
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[@Embracehistoria]

Weirdly, this video is a year old, how time flys when you're having fun.

[@dasbear-1408]

I absolutely love history and your administration towards Scottish history and sharing knowledge of medieval history though I do think you would have more viewers if u were able to make it more graphical and detailed similarly like King's and generals or like house of history either way I do admire your videos

[@gordonpeden6234]

I attended Roslin primary school back in the fifties. The place is awash with history, Roslin castle, (The 'Rose Line') Roslin Chapel, Wallace's cave, Jacobs ladder, (The Holy grail) The Apprentice's pillar. And the Battles. I used to collect birds eggs as a child, the best place for Jackdaw eggs was a cliff face on the river Esk near Roslin, called Mount Marle. As a kid this puzzled me as it was not a Mount but a cliff. It turns out that the third commander of the English force was 'Marle' As the last battle swung in favour of the Scots, The last commander was told: "Mount Marle, for the battle is lost." Nearby there is 'Killburn' one of the English camps, "Rotten Rigs" A burial plot for those who died. It never got much publicity because Robert le Brus murdered Comyn, and as we know; the victors write the history.

[@Steven-jn2cw]

I'm Scottish and I've never heard of this battle, an incredible victory if I may say so! Although The Scots suffered their fair share of defeats at the hands of Edward Longshanks. Thanks for the video, great work!

[@coinneachreid8971]

And it dont get much coverage cos it was Comyn's victory

[@TeamLNE]

I live within a few miles of the battlefield and We recently visited the Wallace Cave that’s located in Roslin Glen country park, it’s rumoured that Wallace took shelter there after the battle and I actually believe that seeing as it’s perfectly hidden deep within the Glen. It’s a beautiful spot!

[@staygoldponyboy8881]

Imagine being in the front of a unit ordered to charge headlong into a wall of really long, really pointy sticks! " Have we got any spare bow and arrows my ankles playing up "

[@coinneachreid8971]

And so pleased to hear someone actually pronounce Comyn correctly

[@andreas956]

This is one of the best Scottish military achievements during this war. This battle should have been portrayed in Braveheart. Bravehearts William wallace though a bit Non-factual seems to be a mix of the real William Wallace and John Comyn.

[@Embracehistoria]

I'd love to see this battle turned into a film.

[@ianmccrae3391]

scots were and allways have been the better warrior!

[@timhare9867]

If that’s the case why do you think they lost the battle of Flodden?

[@Jameswallace001]

Because the Jacobites were fighting Scots & English, The British Army go read something coz you know shiit about history, Also Jacobites where outnumbered obviously. TWAT!!!!!

[@Jameswallace001]

@@timhare9867 and French didn't back them up like the promised. They never really had a chance against The British Army...

[@woodlandcreature8857]

@@Jameswallace001 he asked about Flodden Field, not Culloden.

[@Jameswallace001]

@@woodlandcreature8857 Lmao I was pissed that night 😂😂, I thought he meant Culloden but makes no difference Scots were hardier men back in those days. We beat strongest Army in world with shiit weapons & always outnumbered. Just look at this battle for example. I'm just a proud Scot 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 but also proud of our union and a proud Brit 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧 Greetings from Ayrshire Scotland :)))

[@SuperChalkster]

2,000 deaths to 28,000 deaths feels very doubtfull, anchient history is rarely accurate when passed down so many years. I think you had it right in the speech box at the end of the video where King edward said it was hardly any of there own men. hence the outcome possibally many that were fighting for english turned against them in battle. it would defo make more sense of the numbers.

[@charlesneilson1420]

It was the cream off English knight's, up the Scots ya bass.

[@didimean]

These videos are excellent man! Deserves way more views and subs.

[@Drakorvich]

I found your content yesterday and it's so good and underrated!

[@Embracehistoria]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@AncientAccounts]

how have i not seen this before, this is great

[@Embracehistoria]

Thanks very much :D

[@jamaicanewshub9582]

Did I just see someone get stabbed thru and thru with a mace

[@TrendingZonee]

Great video as always!

[@krismikewill]

You've done a great job with this video. I will be watching the others dealing with the late 13th and early 14th century Scottish wars. Thank you. P.S. I also subscribed.

[@ChrisDouglass2141]

thank you for the great videos

[@Embracehistoria]

Thank you for watching them.

[@Preppycousinsareslay]

The Scots numbered some 8,000 and defeated 3 different English numbering over 30,000. It was the bloodiest battle fought on British soil. Most of the English were slaughtered

[@woodlandcreature8857]

Loved this video, nicely done! I 100% believe the army sizes stated but was wondering what source you got it from?

[@Embracehistoria]

Thank you, in all my video's the source's I've used are in the description of the video.

[@markmacdonald3260]

Always see Bruce and his army who may of even been enemies of this army as being the most successful as well as most motivated against being greater in favour of Independence . I wonder if the mercenaries in the English army where from the clans that fought for Bruce.

[@Embracehistoria]

It's possible, but there are not many administrative accounts from the Scottish side but, from the English, there's plenty of records of payments to and from and the fact that after becoming King and winning Scottish independence, King Robert's administration would have played down any victory from his Scottish enemies.

[@stephenmudiecastles.2938]

Historians have looked at this battle and think it was no more than a quick cavalry skirmish.Large armies were not raised in winter time.

[@davidwallace4416]

Wrong English where only there to steal hence why they split up, We had no King English didn't even think there would be any oppositions or any fighting, John Comyn and some Nobles saw it coming and prepared. Numbers are correct. We totaly destroyed them, No prisoners taken Scots force was to small to guard and to fight....

[@stephenmudiecastles.2938]

@@davidwallace4416 Not wrong look up the muster rolls of the time.No large armies were recorded as being raised at this time.Stop watching Braveheart and read a book.

[@maxrav1831]

@@stephenmudiecastles.2938 It's depends on what book though doesn't it. Propaganda isnt a new thing and it was in the interests of the Scots as well as the English to downplay the significance of the battle. Comyn was a hero but unfortunately he was also a deadly rival to Robert the Bruce who murdered him in cold blood in Dumfries. Scottish propaganda had to find away of explaining Bruce's actions and down playing the heroism of Comyn. The fact that the English army split into three clearly shows it was a sizable force. Also very unlikely the Scots outnumbered the English levies in the English infantry. I don't think they would have been trusted not to turn coat when the battle was going against them in fact if that was the case then its likely imho that's the reason the Scots won.

[@gillettematch3188]

people below me trying to downplay the scots victory by using their own physical limitations.

[@LT.SeaGull]

“This clash lasted just as long as the previous one” *englishman gets run through with a mace* Me: interesting

[@lionelhutz5137]

Hahaha

[@johjoh978]

had this in the background. the second i look at it i see a man run through with a mace lol

[@chrisfleming5732]

I am Scottish and this video rocks

[@davidbeattie6526]

There is a hill called Englands Hill just to the South of Gilmerton thatplays a part in the battles.

[@charlesneilson1420]

Try to locate it, what's the grid reference for it is it Danderhall or Burdiehouse direction. 👍👍

[@vincentpaulmcghee4918]

Shame Comyn grassed up Bruce to Longshanks and got himself chibbed for it. If only they had teamed up! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@reynardthefox]

A people divided and fighting amongst themselves are weak in the face of an external foe

[@atafmaalaoui4761]

Great video. Subbed. 😉

[@williamdryden56]

A battle often overlooked and yet one of our greatest victories. Sad to think that Comyn and the Bruce were enemies, to such an extent that Bruce would kill Comyn in a Dumfries churchyard not long after.

[@Crafty_Spirit]

Prima Nocte, lol, that was perhaps the most absurd and fictional speech in the movie Braveheart... that and calling Longshanks a pagan :D How do you feel about the film?

[@lionelhutz5137]

My guy got stabbed with a club

[@fionarogan570]

Sadly this video has been reading the fictional account of the battle written by Jackson of Penicuik. There is a much more realistic appraisal of the battle written in 2019 by the Scottish Battlefields Trust. Extensive research showed a much smaller series of running battles by mounted knights. Still very significant. The retelling of the over exaggerated tale has led historians to dismiss the battle altogether which is a shame. Truth may be less dramatic but it matters.

[@charlesneilson1420]

Get it up yi, hate the truth 🖕

[@FireballB625]

what software is this! wonderful

[@Embracehistoria]

The editing software is Sony Vegas 14, the audio software is audacity, the video games I use are the Total war ones and the still images I make myself.

[@FireballB625]

thanks. Im subscribing

[@historycenter4011]

Very epic

[@jk28416]

I have one issue, lieutenant is pronounced 'Lef-tenant', not 'loo-tenant'.

[@Embracehistoria]

Both pronunciations are correct, British English pronounce it 'Lef-tenant' and American English pronounce it 'loo-tenant. I use both sometimes as a significant portion of my viewers are from America I like to cater to them.

[@jk28416]

@@Embracehistoria yes, considering we hadn’t invented America at this stage I think it’s better to stick with the English pronunciation. I respect that you are the only one that gets John Comyn’s name right!

[@jk28416]

Plus the British army title should be used for British soldiers, as a mark of respect.

[@Jameswallace001]

Falkirk is pronounced folkirk in Scotland, How many these documentrys gets it wrong is unbelievable lol, Alba Gu Bràth (Scotland Forever ) 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧 I'm Scottish by birth but British also, still really proud of what we have achieved since the Union. Independent we are tough as hell since union we have one of the best Army's in the world. These battles make me so proud to be Scottish but that's 700yrs ago things have changed...

[@vincnetjones3037]

The numbers for this battle seem to be completely inaccurate.....I'd love to see facts behind these figures. This was a very good win for the Scots but I'd say the numbers would be more like 2,000 mounted light cavalry plus maybe 500 heavier cavalry against maybe 8,000 English [mainly Low Land Scots with around 30% mercenaries]. The English were split in 3 groups and the Scots defeated each element individually.... Any thoughts...

[@davidwallace4416]

Aye the English got punished along with those traitors to Scotland

[@charlesneilson1420]

English forces defeated by a small number of Scots, who on a night out on the drink heard about 30,000+invading elite English knight's and their treacherous Scottish mercenaries. As the Curries song was sung by Ricky Fulton the splattered blood of our of our slaughtered sons. That's what happened on that day.

[@kriegaffe10]

The story I know is there was a love triangle between Seagrave, Sinclair of Roslin and the Lady of Dalhousie. Seagrave requested an army and brought back 30,000 men from England. John Comyn rallied 9000 at Biggar. The English army split into 3 and sacked a castle in Gorebridge, Roslin and Dalhousie Castle. The Scottish never left Roslin Glen and used the high ground to rain arrows on the English as they passed through the Glen. One group at a time

[@dansampson6720]

Yh most of the records on the battle of Roslin were by pro Scottish and vary from a minor engagement which is most likely to a huge battle, personally due to some pro Scottish sources going with the former I feel the numbers and significance is over exaggerated

[@charlesneilson1420]

😂 😂 😂 You got fu#@ed

[@dansampson6720]

@@charlesneilson1420 Dunbar, Preston, Flodden and Worcester. It’s not the heats that count but the final.

[@HarcusCGTV]

I will never understand why people find "Falkirk" so hard to say? lol

[@Embracehistoria]

I always felt it rolled off the tongue quite well.

[@HarcusCGTV]

@@Embracehistoria An enjoyable video, but the pronunciation of both Falkirk and Lanark are totally wrong... its not Fall Kirk, its falkirk, say it far quicker with no space, same as Lanark, not Lann Ark. Anyway, otherwise good video.