The Beatles BC13 Box Set - UK & German Comparison

[@athas12]

I think we can all agree that the 70s UK BC-13 is the best " one" stereo set you can buy. Other than that, It it sounds like, the only way to get the best of stereo is just to mix and match from different sets. And, that is why I think the Mono White Box Set is the best set reissued by the Beatles. It just was pressed as close to the original as you can get, and all high quality

[@38kob]

just the most wonderfully esoteric channel. i hope you never stop.

[@billleary5779]

Wonderful video Andrew!! Loved hearing these comparisons. I was lucky enough to purchase a BC13 box a few years ago and was glad to get it as I did not own any UK stereo pressings. I was lucky enough to track down a German Please Please Me, Revolver, Sgt Pepper with the 072 matrix as well as a Horzu Magical Mystery Tour with A1 B3 matrix and have been enjoying them as well. I am American and grew up listening to the Capitol pressings which I didn’t realize how inferior they sounded to the UK and German pressings. Thanks for educating me on these and I look forward to more enjoyable videos from you. Take care!

[@Parlogram]

Thank you, Bill. You did well with those German pressings. Spread the word!

[@billdang3953]

Another informative video covering some of my favourite music. We now need a similar video covering the various Rutles pressings. After all, any comparisons of Fab Four records isn't complete without also considering the Prefab Four as well!

[@jasontheredfox]

Man I wish the beatles copyright wasn't so heavy so you could play samples from each

[@enricosanchez894]

One KZbinr said he's only able to use 8-second Beatles song clips, but he sometimes cheats and edits several clips from the same song together. Thanks a lot, Sir Paul!

[@georgeprice4212]

@@enricosanchez894 not Paul. UMe. Universal Music owns The Beatles masters, therefore controlling the use of the music.

[@nrod66]

Much appreciated video as usual. Do you intend to compare the solo Beatles albums too? Cheers, Nelio.

[@Parlogram]

Possibly!

[@Ad.Dd.James.]

I thought the 2017 George Harrison vinyl boxset sounds amazing

[@fanbladeinstruments]

I would love to hear your thoughts on John and Yoko's Sometime In New York, and the controversy between them and Frank Zappa over their respectively different mixes. Zappa released his version on the album Playground Psychotics, but I'm unaware if this was ever released on vinyl. Actually just going down the rabbit hole of comparing Zappa vinyl would give you content for years...

[@dt9344]

You should publish a book on the differences of various countries Beatles Collection box sets. Your discoveries and insights have been invaluable! How about comparing the Japanese Stereo boxed sets? (Apple and Odeon?)

[@Parlogram]

Good idea! I'd love to compare those sets, if I can find them.

[@twfujii60]

Although I sold my record collection years ago and no longer collect vinyl, I enjoy watching your videos; they are both informative and entertaining. Thank you. Also, in every video I see the Beatles mono CD box set looming over your shoulder; and although it's not vinyl, a short video about it's sound quality and source materials might interest your viewers - I would guess that many Beatles collectors listen to CD's rather than play their precious vinyl.

[@Parlogram]

Glad to hear you like the videos. I'm planning to do something about the CDs in the near future.

[@toucan221]

interesting? Never new there were such box sets, I really enjoy going over your older videos, all the details and sound comparisons just Great !!

[@MattHayesVinyl]

I stuck in a cheeky bid on a White Album a day or two ago and realized afterwards it was one of your auctions.

[@MultiLvlv]

Would be interesting to see you comparison of best of the best for White Album and Let it Be.

[@casperguylkn]

Hopefully a review of the 70s white vinyl out there - UK, US, France and Germany for the White Album, including the 78 DMM. That version is great, one of the 'best', even if it's a little boosted in the bass.

[@aureliande2659]

@@casperguylkn Hi! There is no '78 for the DMM. The technology was patented later ('82? would have to look it up), and first ever Teldec/EMI Beatles DMMs were done in 1983, so the white White Album of '83/84 (?) with 'DMM' on the label is the one you're probably talking about. It is probably the same cut (or at least the same master/mother) as the one in the '85 German set discussed here by Andrew, but I don't have both so can't compare matrices. -- CORRECTION: Andrew mentioned the matrices. They are not identical with those of the white vinyl cut.

[@AnalogPlanet]

The original U.K. pressing of "The Beatles" (white album) is far superior to the German original. It is not even close.

[@johncarsell1205]

Thanks for another great video Andrew! I have the Dutch 1980's blue box (1A series) and there's some really nice pressings in there.

[@Parlogram]

Thank you , John. I agree with you, the Dutch set is excellent.

[@youtubeviewer7030]

TRIVIA the beatles 1972 Australian release called The Essential Beatles Most of the songs on the album are presented in true stereo, while "Love Me Do", "P.S. I Love You" and "Baby You're A Rich Man" are in "fake stereo". Two notable mastering glitches appear on the album: "Penny Lane" running slow with a noticeable "warble" and "Long Tall Sally" on this album, has the stereo channels reversed.

[@ianhughes9928]

Another excellent video Andrew Very interesting once again Cheers Ian

[@Parlogram]

My pleasure, Ian. Thanks for watching.

[@bobcash4617]

Another very informative video, Andrew. I admit I know little about most of the German pressings except for the few I own. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to your take on the U.S. releases. That should be fun.

[@Parlogram]

Glad you enjoyed it, Bob. Stay tuned!

[@petehepple]

Fascinating and entertaining as always, Andrew - and a huge relief to know I'm not the only person with this level of specific interest! I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on the De Agostini pressings from a few years ago, if you're still looking for suggestions :)

[@Parlogram]

It's a relief to know I'm not the only one too! Thanks for the De Agostini suggestion, I'll certainly bear it in mind.

[@donhanson4791]

Very informative and entertaining. Keep these great videos coming. Thank you Andrew.

[@Parlogram]

Thanks very much, Donny. Will do!

[@MrSmity413]

I love this channel, looks like you have a lot of fun too!

[@kaiguitarguymenard]

Another great video. You make some of the best videos on this website. Keep up the awesome work!

[@Parlogram]

Thank you, Kai. Glad you like them!

[@sammeister6181]

Andrew, thanks for the continuously great content. Any chance that you could post an infographic (or just a pic of an excel sheet) that has the albums listed chronologically and your favorite Stereo and Mono pressing of each? I’ve been watching your vids for a few months now and I truly love hearing your comparisons and opinions. However, it’s a lot of wonderful information. I’d love to see a synthesized list of your top pressings. Many thanks.

[@wininboy]

Yay!! Thank you for making these videos; they should be compulsory viewing for any budding and experienced Beatles fan. Again you offer a few suprises for the "collector who (thinks s/he) has everything". After having briefly been exposed to the horror that is those first few DMM's, I had never even bothered to check the latter ones like Abbey Road. Haha. It never ends, does it? Oh, I would also be very interested in hearing your thoughts on the Dutch, French (green Odeon), etc. box sets. Tara for now!

[@Parlogram]

Thanks again for watching and the suggestions for the future.

[@BeAGoodDoga]

Wow, I didn’t expect a draw! Just goes to show that Germany DOES make good albums! Dankeschön! :)

[@Parlogram]

Bitte schön :)

[@historicarchives4841]

Thanks for this video. Even though I don’t have the money for these box sets I’m collecting all the analogue stereo pressings one at the time and this video is a lot of help to chose what pressing to buy on discogs.

[@Parlogram]

Glad I could help!

[@trublu71]

Another excellent and informative video ! Cheers !

[@Parlogram]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks again for watching!

[@moondogaudiojones1146]

As a drummer I worried if my ears were going bad... listening to all the versions, even with headphones! You, to me, were spot on with the thoughts on the DMM mastering on the White Album. My thought was “why?” from the beginning. So harsh on the high end. I will say thank you for making me feel that my drumming didn’t ruin my ears completely in the day! Drummers and bass players are the heartbeat...if it showed up on their releases then I knew someone was mastering for a real band sound. Thanks again for the insights. Brilliant. Till next time...👍👍

[@mkruup]

Again a enjoyable episode..... Nice shirt Andrew!

[@Parlogram]

Thanks!

[@GustavoLovato]

Excelent video as always! I am constantly learning new information watching your channel. Well done!

[@Parlogram]

Thanks again for watching, Gustavo!

[@georgeprice4212]

I had the 1980's Blue Box.....18th birthday present....got it in February 1987, a few weeks before the first four Beatles CD's were issued.

[@IHAVEEMOTIONALMOTIONSICKNESS8]

Well I'm late but, a month ago I had asked the question in the comments asking the difference between the uk version and the german. I honestly thought the Uk version would win hands down over the German, surprised to see it's a tie. 😮 I have the 85 uk version but I'm thinking of trying to find the different best pressings individually rather than trying to find a german box. Anyway a big thank you Andrew for sharing with us your passion and your quality work, your videos are very informative. 👏🏻👏🏻

[@Stuck_in_the_70s]

This was great thank you Andrew. I have the UK 1978 box and it’s a great sounding set. I will now keep my eye out for the German set 😊 take care cheers

[@Parlogram]

Glad you enjoyed it. Hope you find a German set soon!

[@hh.david.97]

All the DMM edition sounds amazing!

[@therealmattstarr]

This was a great video. I agree with you on how you scored these for the most part. I've compared just about all the notable pressings (especially stereo) of every title and there are certain ones that to me are the best representation of the title overall that may not have been covered. For example, the best White Album and Let It Be to my ears are the 1978 White Vinyl UK pressings. What about a video where you pick one stereo version for each record, regardless of country of origin or year? Others that come to mind are the Canadian wide stereo With The Beatles (by far the best version) or the Dutch early 80s pressing of Help, which beats out all others that I've heard.

[@Parlogram]

Thanks, Matt. The coloured vinyls deserve their own video. Another idea is to take individual albums and compare multiple copies from different countries. But it all depends on what I have access too.

[@therealmattstarr]

@@Parlogram Great ideas. I love what you're doing on this channel and look forward to the next video!

[@retronostalgiafan8635]

1978 German and uk versions are my favourite bc13 box sets however we all know the 2014 mono box sets are the best, well maybe for some but all three of these are great!

[@lastminuteflood]

I am in the market for a BC13 boxset, got a couple ear-marked, one of them is the UK 1980's edition and the other is a Dutch 1980's edition. The Dutch one interests me because of the different cover for Please Please Me and the gatefold on I think its Beatles for Sale (not 100% but one of them is gatefold), also the Dutch set looks in slightly better condition, especially the outer box. Have you ever got your hands on one of the Dutch released of BC13? Which would you go for?

[@Parlogram]

The Dutch set is usually better value but the UK edition is the one all others are measured against.

[@deusdedithkojiuchino9349]

I bought a Lp of German and liked your sound,but I don’t know how are others lps,if have a good sound or not.I have this blue box make it here in Japan and I found very good the sound of lps,cleaning with high fidelity.I think as is the best at now.Thank you.Uchino of Japan.

[@MitchellHang]

I'm wondering if you'd do a comparison between the earlier and later BC13 boxsets. Because some later cuts appeared on the 1984/1985 editions, but I'm not sure if there's much of a sonic difference (especially when compared to the originals).

[@Parlogram]

Hi Mitchell, I'm discovering new variations of the BC13 all the time and will compare more in the future.

[@MitchellHang]

​@@Parlogram Hi again, Andrew. I just found out that the last edition of the BC13 set from 1987 was seemingly cut with the DMM method (analog-sourced). I've seen some people give rave reviews for some of the DMM pressings, but I wonder how those compare, especially to the German DMM version.

[@markkopernicky3489]

Hi Andrew, Another fantastic video with some surprising results...to me at least. As I've always collected vinyl pretty seriously..i have found German pressings to be my go to pressings for most bands that I collect.. (Yes...King Crimson...Genesis...Zappa...Rush)..in fact I much prefer them over the Japanese pressings.. It's obvious here that the German companies didn't have the grasp of pressing the Beatles material in the 60's. The 70's I agree was when they got it figured out. Looking forward to your Czechoslovakian pressing episode as my late Father was from there. Take care and stay safe. Mark Anthony K Projekt Gemineye

[@Parlogram]

Thanks Mark. Intersting to hear your comments as always. Take care & stay safe too.

[@RodrigoAlves-bc8qq]

Love your videos. Learn a lot from them. I'd like to know if you cold help me out here. Since I was born in Brazil in 1973 and being a teenager in 88, the best set of vinyl records I could put my hands on were the 88 digital remasters on vinyl. Got them at the time and that's the material I'm familiar with. Yeah, I know that kinda sucks. But I'd would like to know your opinion on that 88 vinyl set? I mean, the only comparission I did was with some late 70/early 80 Brazilian reissues of the first 4 albums. But those late 70/early 80 reissues of the first 4 LPs were done in stereo, while the 88 set has the first 4 album in mono (don't know why they did it this way, but I'm glad they did it). So the first 4 LPs in my 88 set sound better for the stereo/mono reason alone. But what about the other titles in that 88 set? For instance, Help and Rubber Soul stereo mixes are the 87 one redone by GM. Are those 88 stereo mixes better than the 65 stereo mixes.? But the main question would be, how bad (or inferior) is that 88 digital remaster vinyl set compared to average analog pressings? I read a lot of people claiming the 88 remasters are better than the 2009 ones. And since the vinyl reissues from 88 and the stereo box from 2012 were both cut from digital sources, maybe the 88 vinyl set is better than the 2012 one? Cheers.

[@angusiha]

Interesting. I'm also most familiar with the 1988 collection. An A/B comparision of the 88 and the 2012 box would be nice. I have a few CDs from that 88 series, but don't own any CD from the 2009 reissue - so I can't compare the CDs.

[@alanturnbull5668]

Great video as usual. I would like to identify my BC-13 as I'd like one of the other ones for fun, but I'm struggling. I wonder if there's another site listing BC-13 variations because on discogs I've been unable to find mine. It was purchased in Canada early 80's I'd say, but is unique from all I've seen in that the blue box spine has BC 13 0C 162-53163/53776 MADE IN ENGLAND (all in gold, of course). It's the MADE IN ENGLAND that I've not seen. The YEX numbers correspond closely (but not exactly) to some of the UK editions on discogs, and many of the grooves have strange symbols also.

[@Parlogram]

Hi Alan, The boxes themselves are all the same but the contents vary due to what copies were available in stock.

[@pauljames1586]

Andrew, are the 1986 and 1987 UK Blue Box Sets digital? Or DMM? Analogue? Also, is the UK 1978 Blue Box better than the UK 1985 Blue Box? Thank you for all you do!

[@scatteredfrog]

Every time I watch one of your videos I have to add another item to my "look for this when out record shopping" list. Dammit.

[@eddonnelly9115]

Really wish that there was someone with a comparison of the Australian pressings of BC13 to get an idea of how they stack up against the UK versions.... Also would be interesting to hear what you might have to say about the Philippines release which has Hey Jude instead of Yellow Submarine, but that might be hard to find.....

[@KelvinRogan]

Also like to see white album comparison. I've a German weiss dmm white coloured vinyl from 80s (1C 172-04 173/74 A1,B1,C1,D1) which I'm led to understand is the best sounding...maybe! Any value? Enjoy videos, regards

[@PaulinaAngel]

Can you do a video on the difference between the original 1965 mixes and the 1986 remixes of Help! & Rubber Soul?

[@rcpsammy7186]

Great video....wish I could afford one, as I'd go for the UK box and be happy.

[@TheHutt]

Very nice and informative video! However, you should definitely check out the 1985 DMM white vinyl version. It is analogue-sourced and sounds amazing (as opposed to the 1986 DMM).

[@Parlogram]

I'll check it out!

[@aureliande2659]

Hold on -- I understand the version in the 1985 German set is the analogue-sourced DMM? And I'm not aware that there is any digitally-sourced DMM vinyl until after 1987. I agree that the white vinyl version (with DMM on the sleeve and labels) sounds amazing. It's greatest feature as far as I am concerned is a sense of spatial transparency that distinguishes it from other versions. I don't think that there is a separate 1986 DMM cut.

[@aureliande2659]

@@Parlogram I very much enjoyed your video, thank you! There is some confusion as far as the WA from the '85 German box set is concerned. The missing gap after Savoy Truffle indicates that this is the DMM cut prepared in late 1983 or early 84 for the white vinyl version but the matrices you mention are A-2/B-3 and A-2/B-2. The white vinyl version has 04173 A-1, B-1, 04174 A-1, B-1, and each with +//D after it. Different matrices indicate different mastering (transfer), of course. So why do both cuts have this Savoy Truffle anomaly? Is the box set version perhaps made from a mother/stamper generation derived from the original copper master? Do you have any idea?

[@TheHutt]

@@aureliande2659 The DMM version released in 1986 (with Parlophone labels, 1C 2LP 172-7 91460 1) indeed had the digital master which was used for the CD release in 1987. There was also a later reissue in 1988 (2LP 164-7 91460 1). The 1985 DMM actually contains the very same mix as the 2/3/2/2 black vinyl version released in the 1985 BC13 box version and also separately (1C 2LP 172 10 4173 3). Including the missing pause between Savoy Truffle/Cry Baby Cry.

[@aureliande2659]

@@TheHutt Thank you! Two questions: One -- are you sure the digitally sourced vinyl was released before the CD version? Is there any evidence for the date 1986? And two -- the same mix is not the same cutting/pressing. Actually, the mix remained the same until the Giles Martin remix, and pressings differed only in transfer wizardry (EQ, compression, stereo width). The 1985 box contained records that had been pressed before or during that year. The records maintained the catalogue numbers they had as stand-alone issues. DMM cuts were made in Cologne or possibly even in Hamburg around 1983 and certainly 1984, with only three albums commercially released as DMM and the others sailing below the radar. Do you mean to say that the somewhat later 172 10 4173 3 version (which apparently appeared both on the Apple and on a Parlophone label) is the same pressing as the one in the box and both are DMM pressings? So why does the white vinyl DMM (which pretty certainly came out in 1984, together with the red vinyl Red and blue vinyl Blue albums that have the same DMM logo on the labels) have different matrices? Surely nobody messed with the YEX tapes and created a second generation version that served as copy for both the A-1 etc. and the A-2 etc. cuts? Were there two independent DMM cuts? If so, I'd be interested to see them compared. And why the Savoy Truffle/Cry Baby Cry anomaly on both? A-1 and A-2 do not designate stampers, there must be different masters. Sorry for pressing the point.

[@jamesheenan648]

I enjoy your videos to all these Beatle albums. I will be looking forward to the American albums. I guess they don't rank up there with the UK albums, but those are the ones I have an appreciation for. The only UK albums I have is the 2014 mono box set. I know this won't happen but I would to see your take on The Who's complicated discography.

[@yernotthebossofme1062]

In regards to your summation of the early Beatles bass sound, which I agree with, is that the bass and bass sound isn't a feature of the early albums. As a bassist who started gigging young, I was of the personal opinion, that the lack of quality sound in the albums bass sound was attributable to outdated or inadequate equipment, lack of experience and techniques in the engineers and producer with the Beatles sound to be able to capture or reproduce Paul's live on stage bass sound (the true group sound one may argue) Thus, I had always hoped to have remixes of the early albums, where and when they could boost and clarify the bass guitar. It always struck me how substandard and buried the bass was and how mundane the sound was. Pauls' set up, the Hofner with flat wounds thru his "coffin" amp and then later his Vox amp, (which many may point the finger at), was described and remembered as big and warm at gigs. I've always, fortunately, had a Hofner bass and a variety of different large amps, made from the 70's to now. As a young bassist I always felt the Hofner with flat wounds, played through a big amp, at a live club volume, had a unique, warm, full sound, that provided a phat bass sound. Which is my long way of saying, the bass on the early records, imho doesn't actually capture the true sound of the Beatles as the live performers they were at that time. So it depends on your point of view, whether the bass sound that was provided by EMI studios, up until "Paperback Writer" was the real Beatle sound, or just the best reproduction that EMI could provide to the Beatles. It was never a secret that all four of them, lead by Paul, were very critical of the early years' bass sound. They would point out all of the American studios and records which had a far better sound quality. The recording guidelines, levels and authority was in the hands of the producers and engineers. Even Clapton had to have a standoff with studio personnel when recording "Bluesbreakers" as late as 1965 or 66. To achieve his true sound he needed to play at a volume louder than the engineers guidelines and with non standard mic placement. Now with the quality of the reissues, I can just adjust the EQ levels and inboard sound placement with the knobs on the car stereo to give Paul's early bass the phatness it would've had, heard late night, buzzed drunk, in a rough Hamburg club. Or so I tell myself.

[@colin_d_smith]

Suggestion for a future video: Beatles picture discs. I have Sgt Pepper and Abbey Road picture discs. How do these compare to other pressings? Are they rare? Are they the only picture discs produced, or were there others (I seem to recall the single reissues from 1982 onward had picture disc releases)? I enjoy your videos, Andrew. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise.

[@Parlogram]

Thanks for the suggestion, Colin. It's a video which is on my list. Although they look great, picture discs generally don't sound great - they have a lot of surface noise.

[@jeotts]

I have the '78 UK Blue Box and love it! I hear things I never did before, such as someone coughing in "Norwegian Wood", right after the lines "to sit anywhere" :)

[@bedlach]

?? That cough is only on the mono mix.

[@jeotts]

@@bedlach ok...i must have been listening to my U.S. mono mix that time

[@bedlach]

@@jeotts btw, I believe that's Harrison coughing.

[@casperguylkn]

Please review the MOFI cassettes! Love the videos. This was really informative as I was thinking of making a DMM set or just buying one. Ta

[@Parlogram]

Thanks John. I'd love to do the MOFI cassettes, but I don't own any....yet.

[@ashlarhogmany]

Hello there. I am really enjoying your videos. I have recently bought a copy of the Hey Jude l.p. on Parlophone from 1979. Did this record get reissued at all, I think mine is the original from the 70s. I understand this came out on Apple in the early 70s. It has Harry Moss etched on the run out groove so I expect it sounds pretty good. Does the copy of the tapes stand up to the originals and remasters of later years?

[@Parlogram]

Hi there, 'Hey Jude' was available on Apple as an export LP until its Parlophone release in 1979 which continued to be pressed until 1991/2. I think the tracks on this album sound better than the remasters.

[@tonyfox7510]

I have a question Andrew, I noticed the German earlier pressings and the later 1985 DMM both have the same catalogue numbers. If one was to purchase a sealed copy outside of the box, how is one to tell which is the DMM one by the album sleeve? I have only seen the White Album and the Blue and Red greatest hits have a DMM sticker to identify it.

[@fabgearfaverave]

LOVE your videos - always learn something! One question - The German 072 pressing of Yellow submarine from 1977 you mention sounding the most natural. What are the matrix numbers are this pressing? Thanks in advance and keep up the excellent work!!

[@Parlogram]

Thanks! This is the matrix from 1977 Yellow Submarine: 1C062-04002-A-1# & 1C062-04002-B-1#

[@fabgearfaverave]

@@Parlogram Thank you so much! I dig your videos! Keep them coming!!

[@sundodger1]

What a labor of love this post is and thank you for doing it! I have an original Dutch version of the box. Lighter blue in color and hinged at the side opposed to the top so it opens like a book. Do you have any thoughts on the sound quality of the Dutch box? Also a nice touch is the White Album has a number engraved in the cover. Not printed. Thanks again!

[@Parlogram]

The Dutch box sounds great too!

[@mroutlawtorn]

Could you share what the matrix numbers are on the 1985 DMM Abbey Road?

[@Parlogram]

It's: 7914461-A1 & 7914462-B3 BTW we have a full DMM cut set listed on eBay: www.ebay.com/itm/The-Beatles-Collection-1987-German-14-LP-Box-Set-All-DMM-Cuts-Past-Masters/265100864664?hash=item3db93e2c98:g:pV0AAOSwO8FgXQXc

[@imthewalrus2379]

Love the vid. Any chance you’ll do a comparison between the UK and Japanese edition of the box some time in the future?

[@Parlogram]

Yes Kevin. It's on my list.

[@terryzobeck3978]

I'd like to see a comparison of the UK box with the Japanese box (the one I have).

[@MsTimothyswan]

personally I actually enjoy the Yellow Submarine album and was glad that it was included in the BC 13 set. although, Magical Mystery Tour should have also been featured as well

[@TheTigersfan20]

Hi Andrew, I’m curious to know where the intro music you use for your videos is from. It’s very Beatle-esque, like Ticket to Ride.

[@Parlogram]

Hi Alex, It's from the KZbin audio library.

[@TheTigersfan20]

@@Parlogram Hey, I found it. Many thanks!

[@BlueNeon81]

Yay! Czechoslovak releases coming soon (well, just 3 albums, 3 compilations and 2 singles). Next suggestion will be albums from former Yugoslavia and Hungary.

[@yellowmatter9]

hello, I have a question what is the Matrix of the Rarities that has the stereo version of Rain?

[@Parlogram]

06867-A3 & 06867-B1

[@michelraffin7006]

Hi Andrew what about the 1978 uk pressing?

[@harryfitzgerald26]

Hey Andrew! I know this is a very broad topic but I was wondering what both the best sounding and most worth buying Beatles bootlegs are! This can range from the sound quality and the actual content provided such as unheard demos etc. I have a fairly big Beatles vinyl collection with every album and a few original presses but I am still trying to fill holes in my collection. Any help would be highly appreciated and I absolutely adore your channel! Cheers

[@Parlogram]

Hey Harry, I've never been a big bootleg collector, so I'm not really the one to answer your question. However, I will do a video about them at some point. Thanks for watching!

[@jesserussell7242]

Are the German red and blue albums available and I bet they differ from the UK releases because I know in the US you have different fake stereo versions of I feel fine and ticket to ride. What is interesting is that the 1993 CD version of the red and blue album has a day in life without the crowd fading into here on the US version I believe it’s probably on the UK version as well.

[@seamussmith7310]

I bought all my Beatles album new in 1987. They are all DMM. Is this unusual and how do you rate these pressings?

[@casperguylkn]

They were the common pressings of the time. While they aren't very rare, they aren't real common these days either. Usually over 30 to start for a copy, more like $50 US or more in VG+ or better.

[@casperguylkn]

Many people criticize the sound of the Beatles DMM for being thin and lacking bass overall. I like them, especially the later albums. The White Album is my favorite followed by Abbey Road. I just adjust the bass a bit. I like more top end so I don't mind the treble extension.

[@seamussmith7310]

Thanks John I appreciate your view on the DMM as I can't find much about them . I ordered them direct from EMI at the time each week I got paid!

[@RodrigoAlves-bc8qq]

@@seamussmith7310 if you bought them brand new in 87/88 - then they probably are the digitally remasteres ones. I also did a comment about them.

[@MisterBiscuitsOfficial]

Can't wait for the video on the US albums! Sound quality isn't UK good, but their uniqueness makes them worth it in my opinion.

[@jesserussell7242]

I think that was really odd and quite a shock for me but when I got the Beatles guitars in the pump box that and they didn’t use the UK release of Sergeant Pepper what I could’ve done if I could’ve used a full LP box set up so I can pepper which I know they already released and they could’ve use the UK version of Sergeant Pepper but I think it’s still a great sounding album overall And I get the impression that the spines on some of the LPs seems like they were pinched or something on some of the pressing You can also do a review of the Beatles yellow submarine Songtrack and also some live albums by Paul McCartney and John Lennon, there is an album called live in New York City that came out in the 80s. And I also think that it’s quite a shame that the trumpet solo on Penny Lane with chopped off from the magical mystery tour album and I think it’s one of the best albums that Capitol has ever made and it works really well since it’s part of the Beatles catalog.

[@painwildman6987]

i recently bought a Australian Beatles Bc-13 box set I was hoping to hear your thoughts or opinions on the sound quality of a beatles collection box set from Australia :)

[@Mildon44]

"find out which is best for your collection"... well i cant afford any beatles LP boxset... :/

[@BeAGoodDoga]

Nor can I.

[@gustercc]

Go mono cd box set. Very good.

[@BeAGoodDoga]

@@gustercc but Helter Skelter is ruined on the mono White Album! It’s not right without Ringo’s “I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS”!

[@christopherchadwick480]

As good as always thank you. If you're asking for suggestions I'd like a history of the Rock'n'roll Music set in your best forensic style please! Not their best but a favourite of mine. Did it start life as a 22 track one disc compi of the Capitol post production versions? Makes sense if it did.

[@Parlogram]

Great suggestion, Christopher!

[@christopherchadwick480]

@@Parlogram thank you. Of course I meant 20 tracks, makes a 60 minute album with great running order, and no strange left turn half way down side 3.

[@bedlach]

Oh, Andrew, how you've hooked me on these German pressings now! So, of course, I reveled in this vid, thus many thanks for it. However--I'm confused about Yellow Submarine--had you not heartily recommended the '81 German cut, despite the limiting? Btw, I picked up a '77 pressing, thinking it would have the qualities you praised (like bass boost), and I'm not hearing it at all--so, can you confirm whether the Electrola '77 is different from the '81? Finally--love to hear what you would say about the German '85 DMM White/white vinyl--like the black vinyl, it also has no pause between Truffle and Cry Baby Cry--same mastering, just different colour vinyl? Also, the Japanese blue boxes would be an interesting vid.

[@Parlogram]

The 'Yellow Submarine' with the limiting is the '85 pressing. The earlier pressing sounds fine. It would be interesting to compare the black and white vinyl versions of the DMM White Album. Japanese blue boxes too. It just depends on what I can get access too.

[@aureliande2659]

@@Parlogram I've compared the black (172-10 4173/4 1) and white vinyl versions by now. They seem to be identical, and in spite of different matrices I'm not sure they are actually different masterings. See my comment to TheHutt above. You really got me hooked on Beatles research again with your splendid videos. Sigh ...

[@Tezca20]

Andrew: I cannot find in Discogs any reference to the German Rarities 1985 you mentioned. Any help with the matrix numbers will be welcomed. Thanks.

[@aureliande2659]

It's on discogs but it's mislabelled as a 1979 issue. I don't know about matrices but the first giveaway is the printed bilingual rim text (the original had script). The 1978 on the label does not say when the record was pressed, it only says when the compilation was made, so that doesn't tell you anything.

[@Parlogram]

The matrix numbers on the '85 disc are: 06867-A3 & 06867-B1

[@Tezca20]

@@Parlogram Thank you very much Sir. Al the videos are simply fantastic.

[@Tezca20]

@@aureliande2659 Thank you very much Sir., really appreciated

[@Tezca20]

@@aureliande2659 As a way of saying thanks I would like to share this with you. If you suspect your turntable is not RPM well calibrated download the RPM CALCULATOR for Android. You can adjust 33 and 45's in a second! Your ears will appreciate this fine, but important tuning. Enjoy!

[@Storv]

Is the ‘78 Swedish BC13 a good sounding box set? I heard that it is fairly close if not identical to the German box.

[@Parlogram]

Yes, it is! Swedish pressings were used for a time in German box sets.

[@sergeipelissier5690]

Andy, Can you review the japanese BC13?

[@docteurrobert]

The French (green) box could be great, please 😇... well in fact all French pressings (Pathé-Marconi_Chatou) deserve your review _(because they have nothing to be ashamed in front of UK or DE pressings... well "Help !" could not be saved either haha)._ Love your channel, thank you.

[@Parlogram]

I agree, Docteur. I will do a video about them as soon as I can get hold of a set. Thanks for watching!

[@ianz9916]

I have the UK and Dutch pressings of the compilation double album, Love Songs. The UK album is good but the Dutch pressing completely blows it away. The Dutch press of I'll Follow The Sun sounds the best I have ever heard it with better highs, lows and a more open, clean sound. I have a few Dutch pressings and they are generally very good although the Dutch copy of Help was disappointing compared to the UK copy that I bought in 1981.

[@MichaelTegio]

Although there aren’t many (quality) vinyl releases, would you be interested in looking at the Beatles live recordings? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts.

[@Parlogram]

Nice idea!

[@SgtWilliamPepper]

Can you compare the german Amiga version of the blue album with other releases of it?

[@xaverlustig3581]

The Amiga (East German) pressing is only 1 LP and omits a number of tracks.

[@SgtWilliamPepper]

@@xaverlustig3581 That is one thing i know. i am more interested in dynamic range and so on,

[@HouseofRecordsTacoma]

What turntable, cartridge, amp, speakers were used for the comparison?

[@dougdiaz8460]

Great Review!

[@Parlogram]

Thanks, Doug!

[@ZZ24AS]

British are precisonist,German perfectionist. And i have all German "Apple," labeled Beatles,they sound great. Have a lot of former Yugoslavia issued Beatles records,and as far as i know they had extra contracts with record companys so we had all British original tapes to cut our records. Quality was perfect,only sleeves where bad...pictures on them where no good. I have a chance to get this " blue box," not sure is it British or German,must ask. In near time got some Italyan issued "Sgt.Pappers,and Yellow Submarine." mint condition. In end is "dead run," between Brits and Germans,i' m talking about time 1985-1990. Got " Let it be," India issue with red apple label on 180gr vinyl,but it is not this " new," brick.😂😂📀 I' m intersting about new video,because you look for the first time in Eastern Europe,except in Utrecht records fair where you visited my friends place and watched some records there.📀😎🎵

[@shawnschnaufer4942]

Can you do a review of the Japanese set that came in a similar box.

[@Tezca20]

Hello, I want to buy the recommended Rarities German 1985. So far all the labels have 1978 as year. What I am looking for?: Apple or black and grey labels? How identify it? The number is 1C 038 06867? Which numbers in the matrix do I need to find? Thanks!

[@Bucky749]

Just wondering what was the first Beatles album you ever owned ?

[@Parlogram]

1967-70

[@slistone1940]

Is the 1987 UK box digital?

[@DrGonzoOBoogie]

Has anyone ever tried playing one of those copper plates?

[@Luke-1296]

I wonder what the Australian press of this set would be like

[@cuevable]

I got the Italian version :)

[@AnalogPlanet]

I have original U.K. and German pressings of "The Beatles" (white album). The German original cannot begin to compare to the British original. It is not even close.

[@Parlogram]

Agreed. The original 60's German Apples are just shadows of the UKs.

[@michaelmetcalf2427]

Michael Fremer is god

[@pinedelgado4743]

It's very interesting to me that there are peeps who still long for vinyl when CDs are smaller, longer-lasting and sound way better. Not to mention that the engineering options are quite limitless with digital and CDs. You could NEVER say that about vinyl. So why hold on to vinyl? And why listen to a whole bunch of this guy's gobbledygook about the acoustic qualities and attributes of vinyl LPs when you practically need a PhD in sound engineering to understand what in the world he's saying?? Please do ditch the vinyls by the curbside at once!! Thank you so much and bless your heart. :) :) :) :)

[@OlavARod]

Have you ever owned/sold any Norwegian Beatles vinyl records?

[@Parlogram]

A few, but they are hard to find!

[@OlavARod]

@@Parlogram yes they are indeed! I live in Norway, so I collect them. Which ones have you owned before? If you some time get a hold of a few of them, maybe make a video about them 😉

[@revelry1969]

What about the Dutch version?

[@jesserussell7242]

Thank you so much Andrew for presenting the videos regarding the German box sets are they available and where can I find them? I would love to get my hands on the German Beatles box that’s just to see how good they really are sound wise especially with that magical like sound quality of please please me. And I’m glad that the Beatles recorded in German even though they didn’t want to nationally but I think it makes the music sound just as good in any language really.

[@Parlogram]

I get them in from time to time. Keep an eye on the site.

[@horowizard]

Why do you consider George Martin's 1987 Remix of Rubber Soul misguided? As producer he never thought the original Stereo mix was particularly good and I can see why he would have said that. I don't think the remix is at all bad and enjoy its clarity and power.

[@Parlogram]

Too much digital reverb.

[@horowizard]

@@Parlogram And you know that for certain? They were done by Geoff Emerick who did the original mixes. He had a pretty good ear and wouldn't have used anything that didn't sound good.

[@bertfromseasamestreet]

Neat!

[@Xfile999]

In your German video u said the revolver was the best now ur saying it’s no good and the uk is better only trying to understand as u do have great recommendations in general

[@michelraffin7006]

What about the italian one?

[@Parlogram]

I didn’t have it at the time of making this video but have since found it to be a very nice sounding set.

[@BaardOvergaardHansen]

The Germans make better beer 😅

[@essexboy5520]

Fascinating video. So informative. So if it's a draw I take it we lose on pens! As we do against those Germans.