I really liked how Simon went full Mark this time. It was a beauty.
@oscarbarnes2130 Жыл бұрын
Surely the beauty mark is the black spot!? Classic Simon reading too much into things I dare say he missed... the mark (sorry)
@alanclarke4646 Жыл бұрын
Write out 100 times: " I must not make dreadful puns" 😁😁😁
@jaeusa160 Жыл бұрын
I was about to say I don't think Simon knows what a "beauty mark" means. ;p
@Anne_Mahoney11 ай бұрын
I was going to post the same thing (but without the pun!). The idea was that a mole or blemish adds to the beauty of a face; in Renaissance France women would add an artificial black mark (with makeup or the like) on their faces. See Wikipedia s.v. "beauty mark." If the black kropka was a late disambiguator, as Simon conjectured, then the title of the puzzle also came along late in the process! 😺
@spatulamahn11 ай бұрын
Zetamath forcing a puzzle that requires Simon to pencil-mark like crazy! Love it!
@KurotaniAzami Жыл бұрын
a sudoku named "Beauty Mark" should've been done by Mark :D Love the solve!
@davidrattner9 Жыл бұрын
For anyone interested..zetamath watch party tonight on his channel at 6 central, 7 eastern, 12 midnight in England. Great insight as to how Zetamath sets! Always fun to be part of.
@57thorns Жыл бұрын
One hour after midnight and work tomorrow, but I got to solve the puzzle before bed time at least. 36 minutes. Somehow the breaking spoke to me and the it just flowed.
@trisha2584 Жыл бұрын
I looked to see if Zetamath was doing a watch party but it is too late for me. I will have to watch it tomorrow. Hope you enjoy it; I am sure you will.
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
Watched it - great!
@davidrattner9 Жыл бұрын
@@longwaytotipperary so glad you were able to 😀
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
@@davidrattner9 😊enjoyed watching zetamath explain what considerations he used in setting the puzzle! Very much enjoy the mutual admiration of those two!!
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching Simon solve it and then watching zetamath watch Simon solve it!
@kathyjohnson2043 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the black dot is the beauty mark
@Orenotter Жыл бұрын
"Nasty Zetamath, making Simon's brain hurt!" I had to repeat that in the voice of Smeagol. #}=03
@johnomeara7240 Жыл бұрын
First Zetamath puzzle I've solved, took more than twice as long for me as Simon's solve.
@fulltimeslackerii8229 Жыл бұрын
i would love to see a nabner liner used to start an odd even coloring puzzle. all you’d need is 1 5 cell one
@Orenotter Жыл бұрын
Now renbans make puzzles worth saving, Of whispers in German I'm raving All lines I do love But these nabners above For bananas they give me a craving.
@titusadduxas Жыл бұрын
1:13:35 - That was wonderful. Zetamath is excellent at creating puzzles that flow. Loved it.
@pickledcucumber8693 Жыл бұрын
Proud of solving this in 60:31 as this is probably the hardest one ive been able to solve from the channel thus far, hopefully I didn’t make any premature eliminations
@HunterJE Жыл бұрын
I feel like something interesting could be made using nabner lines and entropic lines, there's probably some interesting interactions possible arising from the fact that a four cell nabner line must have at least one digit each from the high and low entropy sets
@thecalculusofexplanations Жыл бұрын
Oo I like that. I was thinking interactions between nabner and renbans would be an obvious thing to look at given their opposite natures (I know there were some in his first puzzle but it was mostly about the GW lines)
@HunterJE11 ай бұрын
@@welcomeblack That has two each from the high and low sets
@sammich_uwu Жыл бұрын
I just realized that nabner is renban backwards, which is genius since they're opposites :o
@TheMartijnh73 Жыл бұрын
Me too.. Wondering whether Simon figured that out too :D nabneR
@pairot0111 ай бұрын
The 79 pair on column 6 was quite the find. What I saw is that you can't have the blue line add to 4, so it must have a 2 and the nabner must have a 1, giving the 1 on box 4.
@keenanmolver9689 Жыл бұрын
I struggle to stop working and switch off, generally I start working as soon as I wake up. But when I watch these videos it somehow does the trick, feel completely done with the days work.
@Swisswavey Жыл бұрын
Very nice puzzle. 45 minutes for me. I enjoyed it a lot, thanks for sharing it
@John-qf6dw Жыл бұрын
its 5 30 am here in Australia and i have 1 hour before i leave for work. 47min CtC video is perfect for today :)
@LiquorStoreJon Жыл бұрын
Gotta be another beautiful puzzle from Zetamath!
@Theoneandonlychessepuff11 ай бұрын
One of the things I find to amazing about Simon is that he all way knows where to start with hard puzzles
@davidrattner9 Жыл бұрын
Great solve Simon!. Love how your brain works!!
@MattYDdraig Жыл бұрын
33:24 for me. This was beautiful once I finally got it into my head that each line's sum could be different and stopped cursing at the puzzle for not seeming to be possible.
@bkaozzz Жыл бұрын
21:50 for me, another great puzzle from zetamath, I love the nabner constraint!
@danielwolters908211 ай бұрын
What a nice puzzle. I was fascinated by the Ideas and so happy to discover them. So impressive how much faster Simon found them. Thanks for the puzzle and the video 🎉
@lnsatiabie43648 ай бұрын
me: " and that makes a 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 septuplet!" simon, alacritously: "there is a 7,9 pair in this column"
@donaldsnyder1543 Жыл бұрын
The day Simon became pencil Mark.
@WilliamSurles11 ай бұрын
In the last 2 video's I've watched... Simon does a puzzle called beauty mark that requires lots of pencil marking, and Mark does a puzzle that builds a snake and involves multiple levels of color schemes with a backstory about a wizard named simon going on a quest. Who is picking who does which puzzles here? 🙃
@inspiringsand123 Жыл бұрын
Rules: 04:00 Let's Get Cracking: 06:05 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! The Secret: 4x (08:23, 08:43, 08:50, 11:31) Bobbins: 3x (13:57, 14:09, 38:16) Three In the Corner: 2x (17:58, 18:00) Scooby-Doo: 1x (40:53) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Beautiful: 7x (10:20, 16:23, 32:23, 32:33, 45:42, 46:21, 46:27) Hang On: 6x (27:03, 31:36, 31:43, 35:40, 36:07) Pencil Mark/mark: 5x (18:40, 21:01, 26:29, 38:10, 46:27) Cake!: 5x (02:37, 03:07, 03:09, 03:29, 03:33) Surely: 4x (14:02, 14:25, 18:11, 22:58) In Fact: 4x (00:26, 02:53, 22:41, 34:16) Ah: 4x (14:12, 31:27, 40:39, 43:21) Sorry: 3x (19:17, 24:50, 38:55) Naughty: 3x (15:09, 25:00, 42:05) By Sudoku: 3x (20:00, 25:59, 37:46) Goodness: 2x (21:16, 33:02) Brilliant: 2x (02:35, 03:41) Ridiculous: 2x (26:53, 26:55) Wow: 2x (18:44, 45:52) What on Earth: 1x (26:59) Bother: 1x (28:00) The Answer is: 1x (40:51) Out of Nowhere: 1x (34:32) Lovely: 1x (38:14) Fascinating: 1x (35:02) Obviously: 1x (04:20) Full stop: 1x (16:32) Progress: 1x (19:07) Juxtaposition: 1x (07:35) What Does This Mean?: 1x (26:17) That's Huge: 1x (33:16) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Twenty One, Twenty Four (17 mentions) One (93 mentions) Black (10 mentions) Antithesis Battles: Low (5) - High (2) Even (5) - Odd (0) Lower (3) - Higher (0) Black (10) - White (0) Column (22) - Row (9) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
@Rubrickety Жыл бұрын
I was pretty impressed with the efficiency of Simon's solve. I got there eventually, but I got really bogged down in the second half.
@MrDaDisha Жыл бұрын
Question for patreons. How hard are the monthly hunts? I am interested but i am nowhere near the level of these guys would i be getting in over my head if I join? And second question are old hunts available for new joiners?
@agargamer6759 Жыл бұрын
I've only done the most recent hunt so I don't know how difficult the puzzles normally are, but old hunts are available for new patrons!
@Anne_Mahoney11 ай бұрын
They can be very, very, VERY hard -- but they aren't always. And, yes, once you join up you can see the archive of previous ones. There are also some extra hunts, including a few designed for kids that are deliberately not too hard. Some months, the package is in 2 parts: a relatively accessible group of 4 or 5 puzzles (with a code to submit to enter the prize draw) and another 8 or 10 that are much harder (with a further code to get a shout-out). When you do join up, among recent months the Planets (June 2023) and Quite Approachable (February 2022) may be good places to start.
@ellahornby489811 ай бұрын
Having solved a few puzzles including nabner lines, and watching simon solve some too, it just now occurred to me that nabner is the reverse of renban
@ThomasFjeldbonde Жыл бұрын
Great puzzle as always with Zetamath!… Unfortunately the link in the Sudoku Pad again doesn’t work…
@bellairenative19 Жыл бұрын
“oh bobbins mcbobbins face” Simon - 2023
@Afterthoughtbtw Жыл бұрын
31:56 for me. Pretty chuffed with that considering my mind felt completely blank and clueless when I started it! Those nabner lines do my head in... but in a good way. Nice feeling when you see how the logic works.
@jhonnyrock Жыл бұрын
Simon the Goat 🐐
@JASPACB750RR10 ай бұрын
Simon: “I thought I was gonna be good enough to do sudoku” Mark is Goodliffe enough to do Sudoku though. Haha. Simon and normal Sudoku are words that don’t belong together. Simon and variant sudoku. That’s the correct phrase.
@globglogabgalabyeast6611 Жыл бұрын
Brutal puzzle for me! I think this is only my second puzzle with nabner lines, so the logic did not come easy. I worked through a ton of logic in boxes 1,4,7 without realizing I had 13567 pencil marked on the box 1 nabner line from very early on (and therefore could have eliminated the 6). Still had a ton of fun despite finishing in 93:11
@GaimeGuy5 ай бұрын
Took me about 2 hours after resetting (I had been stuck for a few hours prior to the reset). Felt so good to finally break it in. 1. The nabner line in box 2 forced a minimum of 21 as the region sum on the line passing through boxes 1, 2, and 5, 2. The vertical region sum line passing through boxes 1 and 4 must have a total of at least 15 (1+2+3+4+5). Since the total must also be a multiple of 2 (because the region sums in each box must be identical), this raises to 16.. or at least a regional sum of 8. 3. Therefore, the region sums in box 1 are at least 8 and 21 (or 29 total). This means the nabner line in box 1 is at most 16 4. The smallest four-digit nabner line in box 1 is 1, 3, 5, and 7... which sums to 16. Since there's no wiggle room between the smallest nabner line and the largest nabner line, we now know there's a 1-3-5-7 nabner line in box 1 (sum to 16), a line with region sums of 8 in box 1 and 4, and a line with region sums of 21 in boxes 1, 2, and 5. This sends us off to the races on finding the combinations. Also loved the touches later on in the puzzle of ruling out certain digits because of pairs, triples, or nabner line rules (EG: At one point, I had The following in R7: C1 89 candidates, C5 2489 candidate, C7 248, C8 2489. Clearly, by nabner line rules and sudoku, we can't have an 89 pair in C7 and C8... which means there must be at least one of 2 or 4 in these cells. Which means the nabner line in box 9 can't have a 3. Which means the 3 in box 3 must be in c7.)
@georgen424611 ай бұрын
Box 9 is simplified if you realize that making 8 out of 1-2-5 always breaks the 4-cell nabner line. One value would be from 3 or 4, and then you have to select 3 values from 6-7-8-9.
@michaelhoffman2011 Жыл бұрын
What a really fun puzzle to solve. I think I was pretty lucky to figure out the entrance early, to make the solve easier. took me about 30 minutes, but really well done
@JeffreyLByrd Жыл бұрын
53:52. I had to step away from this one for a while because when I first looked at it I had no idea except that it started in box 2. Coming back later I was able to see that box 1 and 2 were really the same pattern bur because of the equal sum line the boxes were totally forced. After that it was pretty smooth sailing. Edit: A “jolly great slug of digits” is my new favorite Simonism/Britishism.
@piarittersporn Жыл бұрын
Brilliant puzzle.
@michielgerretzen9777 Жыл бұрын
@41' : Logic by Simon in box 9 so elegant. I simply started with trying 134 and 125 in column 9 versus until it broke ........... That explains my 70' solution time as opposed to Simon's 41' !
@lizzzylavender11 ай бұрын
Beautiful puzzle! I got stuck for a while on placing the 6 in c4, that was really a final hurdle. I especially loved the break in, I got so excited once I realized how box 1 restricted the big sum line!
@brianroberts709611 ай бұрын
I'd reduced the sum line in box 2 to between 21 and 24, but couldn't narrow it down. Didn't look at the sum line in box 1 as the solution. Once Simon deduced the 26 in box 1, giving 21 the rest of the puzzle was fairly straightforward. Just under 50 minutes. First time I've solved the majority of a Zetamath puzzle without reverting to the video on numerous occasions. This must have been one of his easier ones.😀
@Raven-Creations Жыл бұрын
@ 11:11 - "So we're looking at values between 18 and 24" - So, Mr Memory, what did you deduce a couple of minutes earlier? You went on at length about how yellow's minimum sum was 21. How come it's now 18? I really enjoyed this puzzle, the combination of line types works really nicely.
@frankjiang1857 Жыл бұрын
Finished in 28:48. Fairly straight-forward for a zetamath puzzle. I guess the nabner lines do well with me :D.
@_-_-Sipita-_-_11 ай бұрын
31:53 for me. I remember when you guys streamed a sudoku roguelike and there were a lot of "marks" around the areas.
@myfyrmadocjones Жыл бұрын
Instructions for equal sum lines look wrong, r2c7 for box 2 should read r3c6?
@GeekRedux Жыл бұрын
Clever to make the color of the nabner lines the complement of the color of renban lines.
@Aliessil Жыл бұрын
Finished in 34:53 - I'm quite liking nabner lines so far, though this is only the second time I've seen them.
@Antiknight Жыл бұрын
00:15:54 for me! Not too hard but I liked the break-in idea :D
@davidrattner9 Жыл бұрын
Nothing is to hard for you 😉
@Antiknight Жыл бұрын
@@davidrattner9 haha some puzzles are :P
@agargamer6759 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful puzzle, just under an hour for me!
@Tepalus Жыл бұрын
32:48 for me :)🎉 It really helped that I'm on my phone, because this way I always had the numberblock in my view. Kept staring at it to solve the golden lines. lol
@Gonzalo_Garcia_11 ай бұрын
21:25 for me. Very enjoyable puzzle!!
@giladooshlon Жыл бұрын
Beautiful puzzle. Took me 35 minutes.
@PathOfShrines Жыл бұрын
Very fun. Missed a simple deduction in the center square which held up my solve far too long. 49:03
@arturocaissut1071 Жыл бұрын
Really nice!
@ericpraline130211 ай бұрын
These nabner lines definitely have legs, and very attractive ones at that. I like them a lot, though I was slow to work out the start of this. Btw I'd have thought the black dot represented a beauty spot, not that it would enhance anyone's features in a place like that.
@wanderlustwarrior Жыл бұрын
39:28 for me. That was a really cool puzzle!
@stevesebzda570 Жыл бұрын
And now the 5s align (@32:20) in boxes5&2, putting the "5" on the right in box8 below (and on that line that must total to six now). Nice one.
@JohnRandomness105 Жыл бұрын
15:10 I managed to pencilmark all of block 1 and block 2, and column 1's blue line. The long blue line can't have segments summing to 24 because at least one of 789 in block one goes on the gold line. Two of 789 go on the three-cell segment. The blue line in column 1, block 4: its lowest two digits must go on the gold line in block 1, and can't be consecutive. They have to be 13. 2 goes on the line in block 1. Block 4's cells are at least 8. Block 1's cells are at most 8. Therefore... Much later: I managed to solve the puzzle. I think I needed a hint around 19:00 in the video. Well before I finished, I saw that the black dot would resolve a 26 deadly pattern. 27:50 With the 34s in the middle band, I found it useful to define C and D to be 3 and 4. The two empty blue lines helped resolve them, and they were both low. 29:20 The tip of that line in block 6: where is it in block 5?
@specialkalberta Жыл бұрын
The rules say that one of the box 2 equal sum line cells is in box 3.
@Zeekfox8 ай бұрын
I did fairly well with some of the math involved in this puzzle, but it still took me an hour and a half to complete it. My base Sudoku is not as strong and it took me quite some time to find out a few things. My breakthrough moment, for which I'm sure Simon will find something more clever, was to find a hidden pair in column 6 with only two placed digits. 7 and 9 could only fit in rows 4 and 9 of that column, which isolated the 5 and resolved a sum line total. It was absolutely ridiculous!
@Zeekfox8 ай бұрын
Oh snap, apparently Simon saw the same hidden 7-9 pair that I did, but just much faster. That's really cool.
@garybrittain8210 Жыл бұрын
Very Cindy Crawford mark
@gordonglenn2089 Жыл бұрын
Showing my "advanced" age, I thought of Marilyn Monroe.
@srwapo Жыл бұрын
Dang, I spent ten minutes looking at box 2, then box 1, and I gave up before looking at column 1.
@six_500011 ай бұрын
Got it in 87:20
@otakumonphd742 Жыл бұрын
it took me longer that is should to work out why the are called "nabner" lines
@stubbsz Жыл бұрын
Isn't the single Kropki. the Beauty Mark?
@grithog5399 Жыл бұрын
Type a 1 if you think the beauty mark is the Z, or a 2 if you think it's the black dot!
@minhluu788611 ай бұрын
45:18 for me, love nabner puzzles
@creativename325611 ай бұрын
Really fun! 00:32:49 for me
@psythagoras113 Жыл бұрын
Shakes fist at column 6, ya tricky bugger.
@Rach881101 Жыл бұрын
47:30 for me. Nice puzzle!
@bruceh8043 Жыл бұрын
I finish in 28:22.
@user-kt9vr1wj6y Жыл бұрын
39:23 for me nice puzzle
@Hertog_von_Berkshire11 ай бұрын
Took me a while ... but hey!
@Pritchie4511 ай бұрын
60 minutes
@simonwstrong11 ай бұрын
Very nice puzzle and solve, but does anyone else find the tap dancing keyboard elephants really distracting ?
@MadsOcto7 Жыл бұрын
Why couldn't r3c9 be a 9?
@MadsOcto7 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh I see.
@terrible_shout Жыл бұрын
Now "Z" symbol in Russia means the support of war in Ukraine. Know it and try not to use it anywhere. Still like for new video
@RichSmith77 Жыл бұрын
Z is also the 26th letter of the English alphabet, and can occur quite naturally in all kinds of places where it has no political meaning whatsoever. (This particular Z appears to be surrounded by blue and yellow lines. This probably also means absolutely nothing.)
@terrible_shout Жыл бұрын
@@RichSmith77 11.09 is just a date, and the Negro - etymologically means only color. There are indissoluble pairs of concepts that are used to denote an event. I did not try to raise any political context, I only pointed out one of the meanings of this symbol and the possible consequences of its use in the future for those who did not know it.