The Belt Sander Platform

A look at my belt sander platform and talk about how I will be redoing the project with improvements.
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Also, a bit more about the linseed oil thing and more on cutting curves with a skilsaw.
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[@kwhp1507]

Haters gonna hate. Don't let em get to you. You don't have to explain your actions to us! Besides we enjoy seeing peoples misfortunate endings. Whether they will admit it or not. Keep up the good work!

[@mickdoherty8633]

John. Nice video on the sander. One thing about you is you're not afraid to put your head above the parapet and to express your views. Keep thinking outside the box - we need creative people like you who challenge the norm.

[@stevenalford-purvis7613]

Love the belt sander platform, John. Built mine about a year ago. I use it mostly in the vertical position for straight edges. Was a particular godsend when I had to sand about 60 pickets for my new deck. Thanks.

[@bec_r_r]

Safety tips are always welcome so that video was good because it highlighted safety issues and raised discussion, everybody benefits from that.

[@blughsr]

Hey John, no need to appologize. sometimes people need to have something to complain about. I have learned alot from you and have inspired us all to think. Well some people.

[@HBSuccess]

John - kudos on a good channel. I wanted to let all the worry-warts out there know that pro framers (home builders) have been cutting large radiuses with a circular saw for decades. It's 100x faster and produces a much better cut than a recip saw or jigsaw - and it's perfectly safe if you know what you're doing. Biggest trick I'd like to mention I'd to keep the blade depth as shallow as possible, and use a very good carbide blade. The shallow depth is what allows the saw to 'drift'. I've done it 100s of times- perfectly legitimate technique.

[@disconeil]

Cheers John, I think you seem to have put your point across pretty well about what is and isn't dangerous. I agree with you 100%. N.

[@mattwalch2973]

Love the outtakes at the end of the videos John - one of my favorite parts of your videos. Refreshing to see someone not taking themselves so seriously :)

[@mac8250]

Just caught this video and it is the first of yours that I've watched. I like how you took the time to correct people. It still amazes me to this day how many people are highly educated / intelligent yet still lack any form of common sense. Rolling over the out-take. I'm gonna have to check out some of your other vids now.

[@historyandliterature]

I'm a renovation contractor and I've used my circular saw to cut literally thousands of sheets of plywood (so many floors!). What John did by cutting that piece of OSB in a semi-circle is completely acceptable. There was no safety issue there. If you set your saw blade to only cut the thickness of the wood, and you know what you're doing, you can cut circles all day long. Also, OSB is so soft, I"m not even sure your saw would kick on it, just blow the chips away... Good stuff John, keep 'em coming!

[@ExpatPhil]

As always... thanks John, I missed your previous Vid on the platform, a good idea! As for any criticism, if they don't like it, they don't have to try it, simple! people should do only what they feel safe doing, but that doesn't mean others have to do the same.

[@TheShavingWoodWorkshop]

Great video John, I look forward to the new belt sander project.

[@renbooth4147]

Robbie you took the words right out of my mouth!! john looking forward to your update Belt Sander Platform.

[@toolhog10]

More IbuilditHome vids! lovin that series. Watched the entire playlist in the last couple weeks.

[@nobuckle40]

Looking forward to both the 1" belt sander build and the revision of the belt sander platform.

[@jusb1066]

it was your platform that inspired me to make the same, except my belt sander is very different shape, but the idea, along with the little screw to adjust perfect square, is what i made. thanks for the idea and the video . Some people it seems downvote every power tool video due to 'safety' and well this isnt a ladies book review club!

[@Wordsnwood]

I get a kick out of the fumbles that you put in at the end of the video... nothing like being able to laugh at yourself! Oh yeah, nice job on the belt sander too!

[@carter83419]

Nice one John. I also built a sander station for my little Bosch last year after getting the idea from your site. Great idea!

[@johnmichaelnobile1035]

I've got the same belt sander. Got it back in the early 90s. You can't kill it. And works really good with the dust collector or shop vac. As far as cutting that circle goes. I've seen guys cut straight lines so dangerously that I couldn't bare to watch them and when I did I had to hold my breath and pray. I even worked with a framing crew wants that had no guard at all connected to their saw. One of the guys was nicknamed "two toes" Gee, I wonder how he got that nickname. Anyway, I too have been cutting circles like that for years. Always with caution of course. Love your videos keep them coming.

[@Marian1983.2D]

OMG, that Hitachi mitre saw that appears in the background, it's a beast but also a beauty :)....Wish i could afford something like that :(

[@ALANSSCROLLWORX]

THANKS JOHN. I AGREE AND APPRECIATE YOUR MATTER OF FACT COMMON SENSE APPROACH.

[@baconsoda]

I really enjoy your videos and look forward to seeing them but I never log on expecting your new video to be there because I never have a day go exactly as I planned so I don't expect anyone else to either. So, no need for apologies, you are doing us the favour. Best Wishes, Brendan.

[@brendenmorley2643]

Thanks again for your knowledge and experience being passed on to all of us....for free. Safety is always a balance between time, money etc. i am sure those that are Amish have fewer power tool injuries as well as car accidents. But i am also sure that they produce less in the same time allotment.

[@colin8532]

Excellent video and great tips. I'm anxious to see your video on sunday. Thanks again :)

[@glennworton2494]

Makita has been making that model sander for over 30 years. I bought mine in 1982 - thousands of hours and it's still going strong. However, I HAVE seen oily rags spontaneously combust - the experiment John did just didn't have enough volume for the heat to build up. In my case it was about 8 rags soaked with linseed oil and turpentine left in a pile, luckily outside. similarly damp hay or even a compost pile have the same potential.

[@gamingSlasher]

Nice belt sander platform. Love to see improvements for it. I have tried some similar jigs for my belt sander and I get really frustrated that they have to make everything so round. Not a straight plane anywhere. That was a Black & Decker. The Makita looked heavenly straight. I was hoping you would say at 7:33 "and I hope that the people that dont enjoy these types of videos didnt enjoy it"

[@rickreed123]

Cautious risk taking is not the same as carelessness, but the risks need to be worth the possible negative outcomes. You seem to be cautious. Maybe you can start the linseed oil fire by throwing the running skill saw into the box of papers. Nice design on the sander. Thanks for all you great ideas and design. It must be hard to keep making new videos all the time. I commend all the KZbinrs who share like you do.

[@garydelder]

Thanks John

[@gdm1985]

john, the safety brigade are running wild with woodwork. Power tools can be dangerous but common sense must prevail. I suspect that the critics are not really witness to working with power tools. I remember Izzy Swan got similar problems from the safety brigade and I think that as long as you have ten fingers and toes and can make interesting projects then I guess your a winner. I wonder how long a project will take in a 'safety shop'. They are all chancers!

[@HarryWatts65]

Hi John: Great video and great tips, Cheers Harry

[@AndyCollier]

I just picked up a used 6"disc/4"belt Delta sander for $25 this weekend, easier than building a jig!

[@WhisperWer]

Good Work John!!!!

[@kevinnolan6016]

Seth came back from lunch, took up staining where he left off using a sponge, damn thing caught fire in his hand.

[@JorgeAraujo]

Haters gonna hate! Don't worry about them and keep up the good work. I feel like you always explain that what you do works for you and it may not be for everybody and that is pretty much all you can do. About the Linseed oil I thought you explained that you were testing and that you shouldn't try this.. why you gotta appologize.. if people never tested the limits we would still live in a square world.. Keep up the great work.

[@kd2rdhlarry571]

You seemed to be having a lot more fun when you made your videos like this.Nevermind, I watched to the end and it’s still all the same. Good Video.

[@whitewolf8758]

Just remember john there are people just looking for problems to complain about. They have no confidence in what they do so they seem to think that way for you or anyone for that matter! Seems to me as we get older and time goes on people are less responsible and seems like they dont take the time to think things out more clearly meaning people get more stupid like id say. Just keep up the good work and plan things through like you have been and carry on!!

[@22ebaccm]

any power tool can kick at any time as long as you are aware of the dangers which John is there will be no problems and I have done the same thing cutting a arch out of marble with a 9 inch grinder

[@sushi6185]

Thats a smart tabel!

[@sushi6185]

Just build my own one, thanks for your video!

[@adamquincey4371]

Excellent... As always... Cheers...

[@69sungam]

Great John! Good facts and great test of the linseed oil on a papper. I look forward to see you make a big discsander!? /Swed

[@JoshuaNorko]

People are annoying. I think your videos are great. Keep em coming!!

[@ShanonBopbeepbd]

ah so, thought i was looking at a bench top sander. still a great idea!

[@JontoDickens]

I'm pretty sure that all the internet safety officers have never actually used a power tool. They just get off telling those of us who have that we are doing it wrong. You can safely ignore 90% of internet warnings. Keep em coming John....

[@brianwynn5081]

good job mate

[@johnw.peterson4311]

I went to using paper towels that I throw away v. Cloth towels being reused to keep all Linseed or other oily rags out and away from the shop.

[@rm42749]

Nice hair cut John.

[@comfortablyplumb2140]

We have had several fires at work from tung oil rags. They all involved rags thrown away tied up in plastic bags. Picture a plastic grocery bag filled rags. It seems that them being contained like that does the trick. Because we tried to recreate it like you did and nothing happened.

[@mwhumble]

From a couple of decades as a carpenter and hands-on homebuilder - when I set a skil saw (ok, makita always for me) down - I set it down blade side up. I've been on job sites where the framing crews deliberately blocked the guard - now THAT'S dangerous..

[@willemkossen]

People will comment complaining and moan about things. I tend to convince myself they do so with good intentions. I don't think you should feel offended, discouraged or in need to defend yourself about that. The worst thing that could happen in my mind is for you to stop making videos we all can learn from. Please keep it up.

[@jasn5754]

What? Linseed oil self combusting? I've heard piling solvent soaked rags being dangerous but not linseed oil? Definitely going to make myself one of these sander jigs. Love the OSB chair you made too. Wonder if OSB can be laser cut successfully?

[@Raadicals]

My dad has a big scar on his leg because he was using his buddies skill saw to cut some wood since he didn't have one, but it didn't have a guard. So it kicked back and dug right in his leg

[@Woodentoolcompany2]

Don't you love the safety police lol. It's just people that can't think of anything so they state the obvious like "he's not wearing safety glasses or he's not using a push stick". Pound sand lol. As far as u cutting that circle..:) you knew exactly what you were doing and you took a calculated risk and you took your time. Bravo

[@valimel]

Hi john, about the circular saw, i could never do that cut in that way, i think is dangerous, i do that kind of cut with my sawzall or my jigsaw, BUT, that´s my opinion, my wife thinks that every time i turn on my tablesaw i am going to lose an arm or at least a finger, is just perspective, everyone has to do their work in the best way for each one. For the safety patrol, i leave the next video, a little kid working with electricity, a hammer, an electric drill and a homemade lathe, enjoy. Токарный по дереву

[@johnw.peterson4311]

I also ride a motorcycle with an open face and sometimes at a high rate of speed . “ if you are afraid of dying you are afraid of living.”

[@MRrwmac]

I got out of bed this morning and was terrified that something dangerous was going to happen so I went back to bed and it collapsed on me.

[@jimtalkington7674]

I've had 2 beds collapse on me, nether one was in my own home. Beware of strange beds.

[@Robbiethewoodturner]

the safety guys are about winding and moaning common sense that's it if you don't have it don't plug it in and go back to bed and live longer :-() good man John keep them coming

[@tazmaniandevil1503]

I agree 100% Robbie. Yes, power tools can be dangerous. If people don't have enough of a brain to use them properly, they should just steer clear.

[@JohnHeisz]

Man na That's because we don't live in one. A lot of the nonsense that happens in American courts can't happen here. The "KZbin fire marshals" as you call them are doing NOTHING to help - they only annoy, and most don't have any real knowledge where working with tools is concerned.

[@tazmaniandevil1503]

It's starting to happen here in the UK. Some of what is going to court is ridiculous. What is needed is for judges to say "f*&k off," when these cases are brought before them. Some stupid cow sued McDonalds because her coffee didn't have a warning on it to say it might be hot. She should have been smacked in her burned mouth and told where to go.

[@Robbiethewoodturner]

Tom Speirs yep all them scabby layers looking for money every second add on the tv is make a claim no win no fee bull shit money grabbing feckers

[@elvinamillaneam]

Great plantform... I'm go to build one... Have you made improvement on the plantform...

[@TomHowbridge]

Would a trunchun or similar be a good idea for the sanding platform

[@marksaler124]

Thank you. Sorry. Keep on Truckin'.

[@stanleykennedy7327]

a project will never get done in the safety shop untill they figure out the safest way to sharpen the pencil to draw up the plan for the project,so they tune in to see how john would sharpen it then complain about how dangerously he does it, so then they check out izzy,s latest and have a heart attack when they see the blood and gore, by now they are to scared to touch the pencil and give up ! ha ha he he rofl..... keep up the great work john, I love it. Stan

[@martygillan1056]

I was unfortunate to have have a few rags soaked with linseed oil erupt into flames. I worked for a fast food chain back in the late 70's. My manager had me wipe down some woodwork in the restaurant to help maintain a good look. When I had finished with my work I stored the wet rags with the can of linseed oil in a cabinet. I was 16 at the time and didn't know any better. About three hours later we smelled something burning that wasn't burger's, fries or toasted buns. We all started looking for the source of the smell and it seemed to be coming from a storage cabinet. The next part happened real fast. I opened the cabinet and it was full of smoke and when the fresh air got to the linseed oil soaked rags they erupted into flames. I grabbed them with a pair of tongs and threw them into the wash sink where I quickly extinguished the fire. Since then every time I use linseed oil I always leave the rags laid out flat in a well ventilated area to prevent any chance of spontaneous combustion. Just be careful! Marty

[@virtualfather]

Hey John love your stuff, screw the trolls, so I was looking around and did not see anything about the new Belt sander Platform ?

[@pocket83]

eep...p pidy...deep ity...d- that's all, folks! You have stones for putting that in. I've done it plenty of times, but I would be too embarrassed to leave it in the video.

[@958kris]

An old timer I grew up with once told me, "If you're gonna raise sheep, you're gonna have some dead ones." Along those lines, "If you're gonna post videos on KZbin, you're gonna have little pajama boys telling you you're going to hurt yourself."

[@tack132]

Hey John when are you going to make that metal folding knife that you told us about a long time ago not to rush you or anything but it has been a year or when you told us about it and all tho I like your weekly videos I really like knifes so I would like it if you make it tips I suggest seeing Gavko who is a really good knife maker

[@PingDK1]

Quistion are u done wiht the upgrade so it can be sold ?? I long to get hold of it ;-)

[@SuperYtviewer]

Great video, I have always loved collections of answers. As to the "safety shop experts...." I cannot think of a profession where accident and injury are not part of the job. Taking care and REASONABLE caution is what my father taught me. He was an airline mechanic and crew chief for over 40 years. Scrapes, cuts, and bruises were just part of the job. Cigarettes and cancer took him, not careless injury. I know her fired a number of people over the years because they were, in his words, dumb as a post when it came to shop/personal safety. I as a chef have been cut and burned while working in the kitchen. I still have 10 fingers and all of my appendages. When working with wood I have had only one major mishap, I put my thumb through the blade of my table saw after a marathon session of cutting wood for a cabinet. Even then it was only a 1/16th of an inch, because I took the precaution of allowing the blade to stand only 1/16th of an inch proud of my material. If the "safety experts" had been running the show since the beginning of this country, nothing would have been built. Hunting and gathering would have been severely restricted due to the potential danger of the weapons and tools available. Bottom line, accident occur when the brain is not fully engaged. A person can do damage with a butter knife if the just don't pay attention to what they are doing. Keep up the great work on your videos and expanding the limits of what can be done with tools we own.

[@charliecampbell9212]

What stops the sander from falling back when you are working with a bit of timber

[@lexx71te]

I said that a vew Weeks ago to Izzy: Dont feed the Safety - Trolls. We all "KNOW what we do. Dont change anything an do your Stuff in your Way.....! Greetz from Germany

[@bruceschaub69666]

Your belt sander rig is a great idea. I don't really see making circular cuts with a circular saw as being a whole lot more dangerous than making normal cuts. You have to pay a little more attention maybe, but the reality is you always run the risk of the saw binding up and kicking if your not careful. Sharp spinning metal things near your body are kind of inherently dangerous.

[@AndrewKleinWW]

That's it, I'm telling my wife I'm going back to bed!

[@knecht105]

I have a similar rig .. like yours better :) Colin

[@JohnHeisz]

Thanks!

[@effeinc]

My favorite one is where they tell you to unplug the machine (tablesaw) to do this or that.

[@Lee-qp6gf]

Ya John, nothing new for sure. We used to do it all the time on const. sites to form around large pipe.

[@WillEyedOney]

Wait, is that it for this one???

[@Walt1119]

Good one Jon! I get tired of the safety stupids, I'm sure you do too....

[@kmooney1954]

Nice update for the sander, John. Regarding the linseed oil and cutting with the skillsaw... there is no need to explain why/how/because etc. to your audience - common sense should prevail and if someone is nervous or unskilled then don't do it. Or, take some courses - where you have to PAY for advice!

[@MikeMerzke]

What a minute!!!! You mean life is dangerous?

[@TheLeedgelodge]

How did you get that scar on your neck?

[@liveinmyamerica]

Thanks John, enjoy the way you look at life, a little concerned however about the stool video coming up??

[@adshwartz]

Most of the "Safety guys" on KZbin don't even own a Screw driver.

[@adshwartz]

***** Yeah... I once was on a roof, with all the safety gear you could think about, a kid from a higher building threw a water balloon on my head and got me all wet. So what? Now I have to add Umberlla to my safety gear? =)

[@jumpmaster15k]

Yeah, I missed the part when you said hold my beer and watch this. Understanding risk and being able to mitigate those risks is how dangerous things are able to safely be done instead of curling up in the fetal position because you're skeered.

[@williamsmith9026]

Down with the safety police!! Everyone knows their skill level and should act accordingly

[@bill1690]

Like it john Phil uk

[@fredskill1510]

If it wouldn't slow you down too much why not show us the work you are doing on your house? I know setting up the camera and doing it so it shows can really slow the work but I think it would be interesting. Enjoyed your door hanging video.

[@MS-qt5zr]

Best...Outro...EVER!! if you really wanna cut the bullshit out of your thread, you need to "Quit Feeding the Trolls" with your video responses. Or don't. Either way i will enjoy it.

[@TheMrWoodsman]

You talk a lot of common sense sir, it's not the saw that is dangers it's the man that holds it.

[@1950ESSI]

Fala muito.!

[@FredrikRambris]

Safety third, common sense first. My god the KZbin safety patrol is tedious. Next test of the linseed oil would be to actually put sparks (like from grinding metal) and lastly flame to it and see how well it actually burns. My experience is that oils often just smoke a lot and need a lot of heat to burn.

[@bigguix]

well that's it

[@JimTom.]

nice one John, fucken safety police are a pain, you can almost consider them as "trolls" they are just paranoid and kinda ignorant. i myself do alot of things with machinery (skilsaws/tablesaws/mitresaws included), that arent safety police approved, but if you know what you are doing its safe.

[@andrewharper9923]

Lost the top of my finger with that sander be careful dude!!!

[@perandren9179]

Watching KZbin is dangerous!

[@ernie5229]

The only thing worse than the "Safety Police" is the people who complain about the "Safety Police". This is a woodworking channel. Talk about woodworking! If you want to know about safety, read the owners manual for your tools!

[@Uncle_Buzz]

We're a nation of sue-happy lawyers. Dang Safety-Sallies. "Don't try this at home" types are idiots. How can we be innovative if we don't take chances?

[@Zerkbern]

buh bye