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@robmartinez162716 күн бұрын
1 level paladin and 19 levels of valor bard is a pretty potent spellblade I've enjoyed so far
@greenandgarb15 күн бұрын
Love that choice Rob!
@chriswiley357214 күн бұрын
Im dong the same thing can you tell me about your build?
@federicoferrando7779 күн бұрын
Why nor 2 levels of paladin? For smite!!!
@michaelbrantley6753 күн бұрын
I'm personally torn between whether I want to do Fighter 1 / Warlock X or Fighter 2 / Warlock X. Also mind you most tables I play at almost never reach beyond T3
@jessesmith435016 күн бұрын
Divine soul sorc + celestial warlock has allowed me to be an rather potent healer with twin casting heal/heightened aid. As well as insane magical blasting
@greenandgarb16 күн бұрын
Break it down for us!
@jessesmith435016 күн бұрын
@ its a level 20 build effectively but 11 levels Sorc/9 levels warlock which allows for use of holy weapon as a concentration spell to add 2d8 to to pact binded weapon. Which at this point youd add the edlritch invocations for an extra attack&a radiatn damage modifier for anyone up close. Then you have typical EB shenanigans withs high Cha stat and AB eldritch invocation. Along with the plenty of spells you get from both classes. You also get a modifier on radiant or cire damage once per turn so you can set up wall of light, or other radiant damage concentration spells to get that modifier on any perosn who is in range of the spell. You also get good heal spells from divine soul sorc and meta magic allows for 16 hour aid so you can cast aid before a long rest at max level take your long rest and still have 8 hours of aid left and get the spell slot back. Twin cast heal for 140 hp for an action, then use quickened spell to cast 4 EB
@The48207516 күн бұрын
Goal: Build a Support Caster with control and healing options. Race: Assimar You get additional healing from this option. Necrotic and Radiant resistance are cool. As is Darkvision. However the main reason for this selection is Healing Hands. Healing hands is essential as we won't be casting healing spells till 3rd level. Background: Acolyte: This bumps up our Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma by +1. Grants us Insight and Religion skills. From the Magic Initiate Cleric feat We grab Guidance, Thaumaturgy (for advantage on Intimidation checks) and for the 1st Level Spell Bless. Levels 1st to 4th. We go for Sorcerer. For cantrips we are getting Elementalism, Prestidigitation, Mage Hand, Minor Illusion, Ray of Frost. 1st Level Spells: Cure Wounds, Healing Word, Magic Missile, Mage Armor, and Shield. 2nd Level: Enhance Ability, Invisibility. Ability Score Improvement: Charisma +2. Subclass: Divine Soul 5th-7th Levels: Warlock Our Cantrips are: Eldritch Blast, Shocking Grasp Invocations: Agonising Blast, Pact of The Tome (for more Cantrips plus some rituals), Repelling Blast. 8th Level -20th Level Go straight Sorcerer. At the end you'll have 17 levels in Sorcerer and 3 in Warlock.
@WolfHreda16 күн бұрын
5:56 Rules as written, the Eldritch Knight cannot use Eldritch Blast (or any other non-Wizard cantrip) as part of their War Magic feature. The feature specifically mentions one of your Wizard cantrips, limiting you to the ones you gained from the subclass, from any Wizard levels (a better alternative, IMO), and I'd argue any cantrips you received from the Magic Initiate (Wizard) feat. Besides which, you wouldn't want to multiclass Eldritch Knight with Warlock, anyway, as the spells you get from it would be locked to your Charisma score, and EKs are MAD enough as it is.
@nickm910215 күн бұрын
@@WolfHreda this is where you take an Artificer lvl instead and if you can get an all purpose tool. Then you can choose EB as the cantrips you use with it and EB becomes an INT based attack.
@WolfHreda15 күн бұрын
@@nickm9102 while it's still not a "Wizard cantrip," I'd definitely let that slide at my table.
@nickm910215 күн бұрын
@@WolfHreda You are right it wouldn't work with war magic. This is more of a way to get EB and it be more compatible with an EK.
@ynedd10 күн бұрын
Monk is now a better dip than rogue in my opinion. Level 1 gives you unarmed strike bonus action for free. Level 2 gives you flurry of blows for 1 focus point, or you can disengage or dash for free. S tier dip!
@greenandgarb9 күн бұрын
Awesome choice!
@ryanweaver334812 күн бұрын
Love the energy guys.
@douglaspope-gz1eq16 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas guys i hope we can talk about the unearthed arcana 2024 artificer my personal favorite combination is wizard/sorcerer going wizard 17 sorcerer 3 the ultimate utility tool order of scribes wizard paired with clockwork sorcerer is OP for utility
@elementalfreak468015 күн бұрын
The black outfit looks really cool
@lurkhive335216 күн бұрын
Check with you GM before you hard commit. I believe RAW doesnt offer saving throw on multicass, only starting class- so it might be up to them. Also love the 16/4 split tip for melees. That 22 on dmg stat adds a lot to hit and damage when youre at 20 making a good number of attacks!
@nickm910215 күн бұрын
The general rule is your dip is the starting class when you do it for saves.
@wwade722616 күн бұрын
You guys are great. New subscriber here...
@greenandgarb16 күн бұрын
Thank you for subscribing, happy to have you along!
@besteger6 күн бұрын
Wizards, especially, should dip Artificer. Medium Armor, Con saves & full spell progression. If you’re willing to sacrifice 1 lvl spell casting, you get to make a whole slew of magic items.
@MrMrrome2 күн бұрын
3 lvls Rogue for Arcane Trickster. 3 lvls Fighter for Eldrich Knight and 1 lvl Wizard is an insane 7th lvl character.
@greenandgarb2 күн бұрын
YEP! That's an epic multiclass.
@greenandgarb2 күн бұрын
What do you do for level 20?
@davidirving566716 күн бұрын
Enjoying your videos
@jamier2616 күн бұрын
Good content. Keep up the good work, but I don’t think the epic boom works that way. You are eligible to take epic boons at level 19, but you only get the extra feat at CLASS level 19. It could work if you somehow lined up multiclasses so that you got regular feats at 19 and 20, but you wouldn’t get the extra level 19 feat.
@greenandgarb16 күн бұрын
Hello! From another post: It would work like this. A multiclass character of level 15 and level 3 (15/3) advances to level 4 in one class (15/4). Such a character now has a total character level of 19. Because the only prerequisite for the Epic Boon Feat is "Level 19+" and because at level 4 one can take any kind of feat for which one qualifies using the "Ability Score Improvement" Feature, that character can now acquire an Epic Boon Feat. Then, when the character next advances, the character increases from 15 to 16 in the other class (16/4). At 16th level in the other class, the character also has an "Ability Score Improvement" Feature, with which the character may also acquire a different Epic Boon Feat because the prerequisite of "Level 19+" is met. I hope that makes sense! We are talking about such a high-level character, I think it's a neat little possibility for some multiclassed characters. It would also work with an 8/8/4 character; nothing game breaking.
@jamier2616 күн бұрын
@ right, which is why I said you would not get the extra feat at class level 19. You would just be using two of your normal feats for that multi class combination to choose epic boons. Still a step up, but questionable as to whether it’s worth it. In the end, the trade off is losing a bonus epic boon to upgrade a single feat to an epic boon. But the other advantages might be worth it.
@weslawrence88816 күн бұрын
@@jamier26 Its a lot better if one of those classes is fighter to 8 or 16, or rogue to 12 since they both get more feats than other classes.
@lurkhive335216 күн бұрын
Yep. As of 2024 Epic boons are now feats, so RAW, you can claim one at level 19+ anytime you could claim a standard feat (instead of the standard feat.) As a cleric, I'll be taking recovery. Because it's great for tanks and healers. As well, typically when you're level 20 and exp doesnt mean anything anymore- discuss epic boon choice or befitting fest that matches the theme as a reward for completing a full campaign of epic level!
@nickm910215 күн бұрын
I have rarely seen the typical suggestions as appropriate multiclass options. Even now I would argue that Artificer, Paladin, and Ranger are the stat gish and these are good single lvls to start a full caster of the same stat with. Warlock is wierd in that I feel it is the use anywhere option. EB gives your Marshals a ranged option and extra utilities for casters. I also feel like Warlock is an instant point to attach a story to. Patron realizes you exist and now this, patron didn't know you existed until you messed with a plan they were paying attention to. Patron choose you to be their expendable and if you succeed that is even better.
@ThatGuy18254513 күн бұрын
Fighter is only an S-Tier dip for someone who’s going to maximize their abilities, like a Blade Pact. A lot of their martial abilities are only situationally beneficial to someone who has a lot of martial abilities to begin with. Action Sirge for example is only S-tier for someone who has multiple attacks, or perhaps has a Shelleigh-ed quarterstaff or some other way to add more damage. Most non-martials aren’t going to hit very hard with that extra action although potentially something like a rogue might set up a sneak attack with their round’s action and then use action surge to pop it off on round one. Action Surge kinda sucks for everyone else. Weapon masteries too are really only great on people who are going to be making a lot of weapon attacks. There’s another way for casters to get Con save proficiency and I’d argue that the feat could be really good if you drop a 15 into Con at level 1. Still, build specific Fighter absolutely is a good dip, and absolutely is S-tier on something like a Blade Pact Warlock. Still there is something to be said for putting your Wizard in chainmail and giving him. Con proficiency.
@gustaafargoan14 күн бұрын
What is the best multiclass combo if I play one of the new orcs from south of the border?
@troydejong620613 күн бұрын
Warlock, packed of the Chain for a better familiar and armor for your summoning wizard
@greenandgarb13 күн бұрын
That sounds awesome! What's your build and spell selection?
@ArDeeMee7 күн бұрын
Plus, if you want to be ultra ridiculous, you can always join a Gestalt campaign.
@dsc327516 күн бұрын
Pardon my inexperience, but Im not getting how a warlock gets 6 attacks even with fighters action surge. Im also not getting how you get 2 epic boons, unless you play your character until they get the 38 total levels which is unlikely.
@greenandgarb16 күн бұрын
Warlock gets Devouring Blade Invocation, which grants them 3 attacks. With action surge, you take your attack action again, which is 6 total (minimum, not counting if you're two weapon fighting or bonus action, for instance). You get two epic boons because you get a Feat at level 19 and a Feat at level 20 as long as your class hits a level 4 increment at that level, for example, 16/4 or 12/8 as was mentioned. I hope this helps!
@jamieswiftdrake953016 күн бұрын
Heya, merry Xmas! I get the multiple attack argument here, but I don't think the epic boon at 19 works like cantrips: it's not character level 19, but single class level? Unless I'm missing something?
@weslawrence88816 күн бұрын
@@jamieswiftdrake9530 Boons are just a feat with lv 19 requirement. So if you get a feat from hitting 16 in one class at character lv19 and a feat from hitting 4 in another class at lvl20, thats 2 Boons you can pick.
@jamieswiftdrake953016 күн бұрын
@@weslawrence888 thanks:) In other news, that seems like an WotC oversight - but then I've not looked at the boons that much; maybe they're not that powerful?
@41217beingbored16 күн бұрын
@@jamieswiftdrake9530 Thats because this only works if you are planning a character for level 20 that way. Normally, players think about levels one at a time and won't think about ending your last two levels both on Feats/ASIs. But if you are timing it this way, this basically feels like some epic cheat code for the game. It feels like oversight, but it's mostly optimizer tinkering. And the boons are great but don't hurt the game at high levels.
@viniciusassis816116 күн бұрын
I'm back
@psylum115 күн бұрын
Banning a dip into fighter? really? If you want players to just do straight progression just say that, don't just ban one.
@SaskatoonShadeCarlton21 сағат бұрын
Good video, however slow that pace down. Talking a bit to fast. The drama teacher in me is saying "Breath between sentences."
@greenandgarb20 сағат бұрын
We are usually very excited about the topics! Good advice, thanks for watching.
@SaskatoonShadeCarlton19 сағат бұрын
@@greenandgarb The excitement is definitely there, as is the presentation. Slow it down just a tad, pause between sentences and don't forget to breath. In the early days the "Dungeon Dudes" were guilty of this as well, however they are much better with their pacing now.
@johnnnysaint0116 күн бұрын
This type of Munchkin nonsense is why I ban multiclassing for cheese “dips” If you don’t have a legitimate narrative reason I don’t allow it
@nickm910215 күн бұрын
You can always make a legitimate narrative reason for a multi class of one level. What you are saying is you don't like when your players are more creative than you.
@johnnnysaint0115 күн бұрын
@ copying a “build” you found on the internet isn’t creative LOL what a pathetic attempt at a clap back lol
@nickm910215 күн бұрын
@johnnnysaint01 copying a build I found online? I have never done that I have, on just about every character I have played, LOOKED. At the class and asked myself what can be done to mitigate this obvious weakness? This is when you realize that Artificer to Wizard, Ranger to Druid, and Paladin to Divine Soul Sorcerer are not only blindly obvious as a normal narrative arc but mechanically beneficial also. The reality is you are not as creative as those who might choose to MC or create videos to show the low level mechanical benefits of a MC. At least you seem capable of making false assumptions so that is a start to creativity.
@johnnnysaint0115 күн бұрын
@ no the reality is you are a munchkin lol and if you are so “creative” you should be able to justify your multi class within the narrative and that’s all I ask You claim you have never taken a build from online… yet here you are lol 😆 and then make assumptions and throw insults because someone plays dnd different than you…. what a clown If you are as “creative” as you think you are you would be able to play a character with a flaw 😂 it’s okay lil guy keep trying you’ll get good eventually
@lurkhive335215 күн бұрын
@@johnnnysaint01 the cost of dipping actually quite high. Many players dont realize what they are sacrificing especially. I think the multiclassing works better and makes more sense with melee. Conceptually you're training your pick of feats etc., before you acquire the levels, not suddenly learning them. Picking to cross train is like doing another exercise. Makes sense, but there is still a penalty. If you're a caster class you're upper limit may really 17/3 or 17/2/1 or maybe just 19/1. Depending on your capstone, any multiclass is diluting your character. Since feats are based on class level , not total level, it's a trade off going 17/3. You gain the level 3 subclass abilities, but lose a feat. Totally worth it for my support cleric. I've picked a subclass of fighter.- some of the fighter abilities scale only fighter level- not even mid you have 3 ranks instead of 20 of bonus. While subclass support combo relies on the proficiency bonus ( total character level.) It just makes more sense logistically and in RP. For me giving up a feat and ranks that would offer bigger damage for support just makes sense for the Cleric. The closer you're getting to backline caster, you'll likely want more focus. If you drop below 17 in you caster class, you lose access to 9th level spells. For sorcerer thats Wish, Time stop, Power word: unalive. Furthermore, you're going to need atleast no more than 19/1 split on the multiclass if you plan to grab Boon of High of Magic to double up on the level 9 spell slot. Since can now automatically pick that epic boon as a feat at 19, its a high end boost. And you're giving up the 20 capstone. If your capstone isn't worth taking, I'd suggest reconsidering other subclasses that might fit your character. You want to have a really specific reason/build to give up so much. Before 2024 multiclass didnt cost to much because you could split 17/1/1/1 and you got background, but thats all behind a level 3 paywall now. You cant just take 1 in paladin, 17 in sorcerer, 1 in cleric and 1 in warlock and be a God of every class. IMO 2024 highly nerfed multiclassing and provided reasonable balance for most of it. Even though I think picking a domain for a cleric at 3 is weird RP. It's still better RP than a 17 Sorc whose taken a Paladins oath, but also signed a Faustian, infernal contract, but also pledged worship to a different God. The nerf was telling people they need to invest 3 levels for a subclass, was much needed. Tl; dr The cost of multiclassing higher than ever. 2024's epic boons, capstones, loss in total number of feats. trade for level 1 abilities and no subclass is diminishing returns. And you don't get the advantage on save throws for the multiclass.